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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door.

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Speaker 2: It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone

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Speaker 2: and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 1: It's Hollywood, it's books.

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Speaker 2: It's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir. It's Martini.

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Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity

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Speaker 1: book Club. Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 2: No boys are a loud celebty book say it loud

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Speaker 2: and cloud Celebrity book Club.

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Speaker 1: Buzz me in. I brought the queer.

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Speaker 2: Voe hey, best friend friend. So good to see you.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. You are my brother,

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Speaker 1: you know, the guy I roll around town with.

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Speaker 2: If you would have told me that he'd still be

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Speaker 2: doing this damn thing five, ten, twenty years later, I said,

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Speaker 2: you're crazy. But here we are, and I'm thankful to

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Speaker 2: God that we're still in the mix.

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Speaker 1: I'm so thankful. And I just want to say one

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Speaker 1: other thing, Opah, if you want to say it.

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Speaker 2: With me, Oh oh by, why are you talking about

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Speaker 2: Greek Stuffinitely.

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Speaker 1: One we like both like want to be Greek, so true.

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Speaker 1: But let's say because we're doing one of the most

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Speaker 1: famous Greek actors this.

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Speaker 2: Week who I kind of never even like thought of

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was a big thing on his hit

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Speaker 2: Okay, I guess, which is also like, I know I

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Speaker 2: watched the nineties, but again it's been a while. I'm old.

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Speaker 2: Say it with me, ladies. Do you know him as

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Speaker 2: Uncle Jesse from Full House?

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Speaker 1: You also know him as Uncle Jesse from the reboot

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Speaker 1: Fuller House.

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Speaker 2: Talking about celebrated actor of the stage and screen, John

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Speaker 2: and Stage, I said, stage and screen.

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Speaker 1: Oh my headphones and through my long flowing Greek care

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Speaker 1: you wish. It is crazy. So this is like a

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Speaker 1: hot new book.

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Speaker 2: Caught off the press. Everyone's talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should be talking about it. The tea in here

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Speaker 1: is piping from Luri Laughlin being brave to his divorce

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Speaker 1: with Rebecca Romain Stamos in two thousand and three. He

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Speaker 1: spills every day.

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Speaker 2: That was probably the funniest part we all know, So

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Speaker 2: Lori Laughlin's college and Missus Kendall when that happened a

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Speaker 2: few years ago to refresh y'all's memory. Many kids will

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Speaker 2: remember when Olivia Jade, who randomly is like such an

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Speaker 2: Amazon influencer, is Lori Laughlin's also from full House and

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Speaker 1: Lori Laughlin is married to literally Massimo, like the creator

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Speaker 2: So Olivia Jade slash Lee Laughlin was busted because she

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Speaker 2: was paying like test takers like classic it is'm gonna

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Speaker 1: No? So here was the thing. She hired this guy

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Speaker 1: who ran like a testing company, and of course he

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Speaker 1: lot of celebrities like used him. And basically this guy,

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Speaker 1: I think he would pay test takers or he would

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's hacking into a mainframe. It sounds

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Speaker 2: like it was somebody's taking tests. I mean, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: we can.

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Speaker 1: Google this, but as you say, why not.

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Speaker 2: Guess why not? Guess you can't fact check this podcast.

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Speaker 2: But the funny time part was she did that to

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Speaker 2: get into USC.

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Speaker 1: That was the funniest part because it was like other

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Speaker 1: like Felicity Huffman also went to jail for this, and

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Speaker 1: like tons of other random Boston parents like used as

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Speaker 1: But Olivia Jade Mussi Mo literally used this to get

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, you're right he was bribing college and fraudul.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't think I know about SAT bribing girl.

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Speaker 1: New England SAT system bribery and scammery. Really, so Lori

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Speaker 1: in like good full house behavior after only two months.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is the scene where he's watching the

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Speaker 2: news the story breaks big time. I immediately text Lori, are

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Speaker 2: you watching the news? No? Why an FBI agent is

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Speaker 2: announcing the largest college admission scandal ever handled by the

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Speaker 2: Department of Justice involving bribes to prestigious colleges for falsified

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Speaker 2: student acceptances. Turn on the TV, Laurie, Now there's a

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Speaker 2: big press conference happening. She asks, what channel? I text

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Speaker 1: They're texting right after they got off the phone because

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Speaker 1: And was like, get off the line, Johnny boy, Like,

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Speaker 2: Tapped by the Feds. And then he goes, I've witnessed moments.

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Speaker 2: We're giving up. Could have been the easiest way out

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Speaker 2: for Laurie. She could have shifted the blame and let

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Speaker 2: her family, marriage, and life crumble. But she didn't. I'm

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Speaker 2: with the resilience she showed. No matter how hard she

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Speaker 2: She was brave like Amazon, like dorm fridge contract.

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Speaker 1: And like Olivia j was still like shilling like Amazon

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and being just like, so, when you're getting my

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Speaker 1: Use code fuller House to get like ten percent off

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Speaker 1: off my TikTok shop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I came away from this book of John Stamos. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was a big TV star in the nineties, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's super humble, I think when you're been in

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Speaker 2: you're on I don't know, season three of Ginny and

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Speaker 2: that like Netflix show of like two girls who are friends,

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Speaker 2: it's like, if you're the uncle on that show, you're

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Speaker 2: just because you were the uncle. And Ginny and Georgia, but.

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Speaker 1: Like, well, no, I mean, and they don't make them

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Speaker 2: No, they don't make them. Fame doesn't work like that anymore.

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Speaker 2: But it's like he obviously tried to have a more

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Speaker 2: I've taken my punches. I get it, I'm hot, i

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Speaker 2: still look good. I've always been c plus that's where

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna live. Yeah, He's I'm like, and I'm grateful

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Speaker 1: Literally the sexiest Greek man alive.

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Speaker 2: Did you feel like he has like short king energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's like a yes, he is like sexy

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, we're dead wrong, he's six speak tall.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, but you know what, Bob Saget six ' four.

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Speaker 1: That's why he seemed short.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like jump into full House for a second.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, while we're here. So do you remember how

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Speaker 1: like in the nineties, like the craziest thing about Full

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Speaker 1: guys know that actually, like Bob Sagett is a really

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Speaker 1: like dirty, nasty seat comedian.

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Speaker 2: Yes. That was always like this shocking thing, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you talking about, because

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Speaker 1: because John Stamos is like he also like really didn't

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, so someone that comes up to him

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Speaker 2: Recently, I ran into Demi at a party celebrating Jamie

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Speaker 1: T by the way, at this book is so reddom

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Speaker 2: Forward, and she was kind of giving the forwards that

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Speaker 2: an amazing human and we are all lucky to know him, period.

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Speaker 1: And the back of the book is the most like,

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Speaker 1: I like, am still sexy at fifty five, and I

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Speaker 1: He's in a purple suit, in a lawn chair, sitting

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Speaker 2: Of overgrown front yard. I'm sorry. This ad is like

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Speaker 2: it's somewhere between like Kinfolk and Macy's, where it's like

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Speaker 2: it's like a promotional magazine that comes with a store.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to figure out what. But I feel like

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Speaker 1: the kind of the overgrown yard is trying to have

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Speaker 1: oak his kind of like middle class suburban seventies California childhood.

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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent. He's just like yo, Me and

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Speaker 2: Billie Eilish are ghetto.

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Speaker 1: As he was like as I you know, worked doing

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Speaker 1: the Sunday Special in my dad's Greek diner.

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Speaker 2: Which is like the classic Greek immigrant story come to

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Speaker 2: America to start a diner, and he was slinging burgers,

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Speaker 1: Orders, and he'd always be like, ugh, and then there

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Speaker 1: comes egg whites guy. His big joke in this book

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Speaker 1: is just like there's always a guy at the dinner

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Speaker 2: I like, he makes my life a living hell when

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Speaker 2: I'm less shorter at her cook and I'm eighteen, okay,

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Speaker 2: But just to listen to on Demi. So they're at

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Speaker 2: some party celebrating Jamie Lee Curtis's Oscar nom. I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: demiated party celebrating Jamie Lee Curtis Oscar as we're catching

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Speaker 2: up a writer friend of ours, Ali Adler. Such a

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Speaker 1: house en Rolls Royce to Charles Manson, right, and he

437
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: says in nineteen sixty eight, Dennis meets Manson, a thirty

438
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: three year old former contact and singer songwriter, believes he's

439
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 1: just one recording contract away from stardom. He prays on

440
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: Dennis's weakness for sex and drugs while trying to get

441
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: close to the Beach Boys. But then so he tells

442
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: his whole story and then he goes. I regret including

443
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: the Manson story in the mini series I produced for

444
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: ABC called The Beach Boys and American Family. The network

445
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: is insistent on including more of it. I knew this

446
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: was a dark stand in their legacy, and if I

447
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: had the experience I have now, I would have stood

448
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: up to the network. And he was being like, I

449
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: should have pushed back on this, like Manson story on

450
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: this random special I produced in twenty fourteen. You're like, no,

451
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone remembers it, but now they do,

452
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: because you're retelling this.

453
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: You're talking about it, and you're just like, it's fucked

454
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: up that we're talking about it. It's like, well, you're

455
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: talking about it, or maybe you reel it in. But

456
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: I do think, like, you know, his Beechwoy obsession, I

457
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: think it kind of relates to his acceptance of his

458
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: personal level of fame. There was an interesting moment near

459
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: the beginning when he's on General Hospital and Rick Springfield

460
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: as in Jesse's Girl. I guess is the lead of

461
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: General Hospital, which I didn't realize.

462
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're also semi mulleted on there.

463
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: And like basically like General Hospital like got him very

464
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: famous and like got him into the hearts and minds

465
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: of like so many undersexed housewives across America. But Rick

466
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: sort of like is embarrassed by that and is kind

467
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: of wants to pull out, so he says Rick's at

468
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 2: the till end of his contract. Once out, he had

469
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: moderate success in Australia, but was a complete unknown in

470
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: America until he landed the role of doctor Noah Drake

471
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: in General Hospital. Then his record hits number one and

472
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 2: now is a giant sex symbol. Rather than credit the

473
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: hyperventilating housewives and horny teens who discovered him because of

474
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: his soap gig, he tries to disses himself from his

475
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: starmicking role to be a full time touring rock star.

476
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: I'll see this over and over again. Actors strives to

477
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: be seen by anyone, gets a break, solidified stortom, and

478
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: becomes reticent to talk about those early days of the

479
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: first Fancy Party with apron change and babysitting money just

480
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: sport their journeys towards success and he's like, I'm not

481
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: going to do that. He's like, cause it's the classic thing.

482
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: It's like you get famous doing something cheesy, say like

483
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: a podcast about celebrity memoirs, and then you're just like when.

484
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: You go on to star in this really raw, gritty, scripted,

485
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: gritty series on.

486
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 2: Two B about aids, and you're just like, I want

487
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: everyone to notice you for that. It's like, no one

488
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: cares about your two B series, and now you've alienated

489
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: all of your original podcast friends, like trying to be pretentious,

490
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: and and then you die at thirty eight of a

491
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: kratum overdose. And that's sort of like the direction we're

492
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: headed in. And if we don't embrace our right, if we.

493
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: Don't embrace it, and that's why we are embracing it.

494
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: And I feel like John has basically embraced it. It's like, yeah,

495
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm cheesy.

496
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: And he shares the big decisions that he So he

497
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: meets Ryan Murphy, and Ryan Murphy's like, you know, twenty four,

498
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: he's done popular and.

499
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: John Samon's like, who is this fag?

500
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been like he was wearing glasses, spiky hair.

501
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: We're at the Ivy and John stamosays they're being so

502
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: like everything. Also in this book seems like a scene

503
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: from Entourage in this way where it's like fictional but

504
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: reality Hollywood. He's like, has his hair slip back, sunglasses on,

505
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: leather jacket, valet.

506
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: Button down shirt like open three buttons. They're at the

507
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: Sunset Tower permanently tan.

508
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: And he has like so many beaded bracelets and necklaces,

509
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, Ryan, what do you got form?

510
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: But even in that point he's like, I'm playing the

511
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: part of John Stamos saying what do you got for me?

512
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: And then Ryan Murphy pitches him the show. John Samus

513
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: is like this does sound good, and I'm still sketched.

514
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: H No, it's a little show called Nip Tuck Well,

515
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: and then he goes, I'm worried that it's too demeaning

516
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: to women, so I didn't take it.

517
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, I meant there was a show he pitched

518
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: him even before Niptok that where he was going to

519
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: play a male hooker.

520
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay, And then he.

521
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: Is pitched Niptok and then he's like it's too demeaning

522
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: for women, which is insane.

523
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: He is just being such a feminist and being like, no,

524
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: I won't have this faggotty show about plastic surgery.

525
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It's like he's very turning down Nip tuck.

526
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: But then doing this movie called Wedding Wars that was

527
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: like an A n E original movie where he plays

528
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: a gay wedding planner who gets all gay men who

529
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: work in like the wedding industry, whether it be hair

530
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: or planning our flowers, to go on a nationwide wedding strike.

531
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: Oh wait until gay marriage passed is legalized. Yeah, that's

532
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 2: so insane. How are we not watching this movie every ing?

533
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: No, it seems like a pretty epic movie. And it's

534
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: like him and Eric Daye mixed Demi from Grey's Anatomy.

535
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: Fuck.

536
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: You know, his heart is in the right place.

537
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: I mean that makes sense. He's just like extremely lib.

538
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: I mean he's so Biden. He talks about like performing

539
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 2: with the Beach Boys, that they got a Biden rally

540
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: or something in like twenty nineteen, and he's like while

541
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: Donald Trump was spewing his bio.

542
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Maga.

543
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he's like a huge friend of the gays.

544
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: No, he is the most like and he like along

545
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: the way because he has a gay Greek manager named

546
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: like Gary's Tatopolus, but he's still being like Gary, it's

547
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: so nineties. He's like, explain it to me, man, what

548
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: is it about guys that you're into? And Gary's like,

549
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: let me put it this way. You know how you

550
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: feel when you see a woman?

551
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: He's like, And when he said that, it all clicked.

552
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: And he was like it was simple, but I got it.

553
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: Love is love, man.

554
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: Okay, can we talk about the movie I watched last night,

555
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: the John Stamos insane camp classic called Never Too Young

556
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: to Die?

557
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 1: Wait, Yeah, how was it mean? Simmons play is a

558
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: tea Girl.

559
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: It's very like Rocky Horror Picture Show. The description on

560
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 2: the movie was just like an evil he she is

561
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: trying to steal the nuclear codes and poison LA's water supply.

562
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: You're just like, what, it's totally camp, be in ridiculous,

563
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: and it's honestly really funny. And I was like, this

564
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: should be like a camp classic, like Rocky Horror Picture Show.

565
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: And in the book, well he even says, I really

566
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: hope it becomes more like Rocky Horror because it's hilarious

567
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: and it's literally like Jean Simmons like stomping in heels

568
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: and like licking everyone's faces and like, also, Jean Simmons

569
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: has a fingernail that's like like a really long fingernail

570
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: that he uses to kill people. The movie is him,

571
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: and then the lead actress in it is this woman.

572
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: Her actress name is Vanity. Just one word, Well, so

573
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: do you know who Vanity is? Well, he says, her

574
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: real name is Denise. In the book, she was.

575
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: Like a prince girl.

576
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: Oh, she's like part of Princess Haram.

577
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: If I'm cracked, and again, fact check me. She is

578
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: like part of Prince's Harem. She was part of the

579
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: group Vanity six. Yeah, she says. Nasty girl, nasty girl,

580
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: nasty girl.

581
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: Oh right, okay, and that's when they turned her into

582
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: nasty girl, and she was like becoming this nasty girl

583
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: and she was really nasty, so he says. So when

584
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: starting a new project, there's usually a meet and Greek

585
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: cast dinner to night. It's at a restaurant sunset Boulevard

586
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: called the Dome Mere. Moments after meeting Vanity for the

587
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: first time, she's giving me a hand job under the table,

588
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: not even sure how it starts. I'm making small talk

589
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: as she rearranges a napkin in my lap, and the

590
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: next thing I know, she's all in. It's exciting, but

591
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: nerve wracking. She maintains a slight smile, looks attentively at

592
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: the director who's discussing the nuance attraction between our characters

593
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: Stargrove and Danja. Nothing nuanced happening under the table. At

594
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: the same time the producer's making introductions. I hope she

595
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: doesn't shake hands with anyone. I'm like, okay, actual full

596
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: pimp mode activated, no full, It's very that game stone

597
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: Face where you're not allowed to react while girls blowing

598
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: you into the table.

599
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. But John Stamos even reflects being like that was

600
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: so like hot, but like he was like her father

601
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: also abused her till the day she.

602
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: Died, because he says on set, she was always like

603
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: taking the random prop guns and like firing them randomly,

604
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: like all the time, and being so like Alec Baldwin

605
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: coated and like trying to kill people. And he was

606
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: like it was a little too wild, And I totally

607
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: understand that, like with the abuse she suffered, like that

608
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: gave her a monarchy of control and like she was

609
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: trying to regain power in a sense, like being on

610
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: this mail set, and so I do get that. At

611
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: the same time, it did make me fear for my safety.

612
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: Oh this like is said, So she was like born

613
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: again evangelical and then like did have like an overdose. Wait,

614
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: we have to do her book. Blame it on Vandy Hollywood,

615
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Hell in Heaven.

616
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: Okay, and she's still Christian or she's post Christian.

617
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: She did pass in twenty sixteen from kidney failure for

618
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: doing too much cocaine, but she left her estate to

619
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: her church. Oh you know very of the eighties, you know.

620
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Wait, I would say the biggest shock to

621
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: me that he just casually reveals in this book is

622
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: that he had two nose jobs.

623
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: Two is insane because you're like, I would expect him

624
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: to have one.

625
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean, his nose to me, it looks like, I mean,

626
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: I guess it's a nose job nose, but it doesn't

627
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: look totally nos job kind of and so this was saying.

628
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: So he gets it done a little bit and he's like,

629
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: it was kind of weird. And then I literally went

630
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 2: to Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon and they finished it and

631
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: he like said he was taking a break from general

632
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: hospital to a job, and then like all those castminans

633
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: are like, uh, what kind of job are you talking about?

634
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: And I'm like looking at the nose and it's like

635
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: is that thing where he really like didn't need it.

636
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean if he was an actor today, I don't

637
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: think you would have gotten it. Is just like stronger

638
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: and a little bit longer.

639
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: It's hard to really find photos because he was called

640
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: like big Nose Stamos in middle school and there's his

641
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: whole like origin story where this guy tries to beat

642
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: him up because his girlfriend, Stephanie's moms was into him.

643
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: And then he's like, I'm going to become so famous

644
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: that that like jock will never beat me up again.

645
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: The jock is like calling him big nose and like

646
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: writing big nose like in lipstick on the mirror in

647
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: the bathroom, and like the whole school is like big

648
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Nose is going to get beat up by like Johnny Rock.

649
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: And it's like I think that stuck with him so

650
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: much that he was like, oh, I have to do this.

651
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: But I also think that big noses are much more

652
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: in these days and people like, you know, more Simian features.

653
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: I was made fun of for having a big nose

654
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: in elementary school once, just during math class, kid said

655
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: to me, you have a really big nose.

656
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: That seems more of like an observation, and that's like

657
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: making fun of.

658
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: I feel like when you're ten and someone says that

659
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: like out of nowhere, like it does feel bad. I'll say, Okay.

660
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: His marriage to Rebecca Romain, which is just like so

661
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: early two thousands, and I kind of like forgot about it,

662
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: and then as I was reading, I was like, wait

663
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: a second, right, Rebecca Romain demus.

664
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like the hottest woman alive, I want

665
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: to say, for like three full years.

666
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: And he also kind of takes credit for like pushing

667
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: her to expand from modeling to being like funny and

668
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: on X Men. So they get together right as this

669
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: time where he's also kind of considering should I finally

670
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: make my move with Lori Laughlin? But ultimately he doesn't,

671
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: and that kind of will there won't they? You know,

672
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: And I think it's better that they just didn't hook up, honestly.

673
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Lori has different tastes, Like I love the

674
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 2: part where later in the book when they find out

675
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: Bob Sagerties. He's like, I call Lori Laughlin. She was

676
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 2: on the eighth hole of a golf course with her husband.

677
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: It's like she was playing golf with Massimo, Like she

678
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: was always moving in a different direction.

679
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little more just like let me get

680
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: my like target Italian husband and we're gonna like play

681
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: golf and like have Amazon stores.

682
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like cheesy rich in country club, whereas Rebecca

683
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 2: Romaine is more you know, has this lust for life

684
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: that John did. But yeah, she really was like the

685
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: biggest sex symbol.

686
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: It was like she was so hot and like Sports illustrates.

687
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: So he gets where they go to Mikas, which is

688
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: all tied in to their honeymoon, and of course, like

689
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: the beach boys play and walk them down the aisle

690
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: or like whatever. Maybe that's his second wedding, but it's

691
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: just again, it's three more about like the beach boys

692
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: giving him advice and they like are totally hungover their

693
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: Mikino's honeymoon. He's like, there's naked men jumping anyway, and

694
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I actually talked to a lot of

695
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: the behind the scene guys, and yeah, let's just say

696
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: she got the cover of Sports Illustrated, and then she

697
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: got Jay Leno and then yes, she was on X Men,

698
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: and then I just wanted to read this part that

699
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: was so us where he's being like she started hanging

700
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: with a new crew that was shady. Oh here it

701
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: is as I'm lifting Rebecca up, I'm losing myself. Well,

702
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: we have great friends in common. She's bringing in a

703
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: new crop that throw shade, name drop and try to

704
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: outdo one another with obscure references.

705
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: I was like, us coded, so us coded, try to

706
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: outdo one another with obscure and they're just being like,

707
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: oh my god, waite. Okay, she's being so brideboards and

708
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: she's made so marriage wars and he's like, stop talking

709
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: shit about my movie that celebrates gay marriage. Okay. So

710
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: they kind of have a separation and he shoots some

711
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: like shitty movie in New York City and she's kind

712
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: of not talking to him for four months, and then

713
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: she calls him and she's like, okay, like I'm redoing

714
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: our bedroom. Like I guess, let's get back together. And

715
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: then they like have this restart where they like travel

716
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: to Holland for her dad's birthday, which to me is already.

717
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: It's just like this isn't going well.

718
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: Like you no, when you're going to Holland.

719
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: For your like a strange wife's dad's birthday, I don't

720
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: think you're getting back together. It's just too forced. So

721
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: they get divorced, and then he asks if he can

722
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: be the one to publicly file.

723
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: He's so insecure, he's so emasculated because like, ye, she

724
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: becomes more famous and as the breadwinner. And also she

725
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: doesn't fight when they're like you have to pay John

726
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 1: this crazy sum of money.

727
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like you do have to pay had like

728
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: back taxes or something, and she's just like give him

729
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: whatever he's owed. And then he's just like and I

730
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: want to be the one to file, and she's like fine,

731
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: I mean that's like so power move on her part.

732
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: She's a little be like I'm Rebecca Remain.

733
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: And then basically it's so classic man where he talks

734
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: about how he wanted to have a family with her,

735
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: but obviously like actors just like are so actually having

736
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: their family when they're fifty two and meet like a

737
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: random hope yeah, And then like he proposes to his

738
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: new wife at Disney World and then he just comes

739
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: out as this like really like Disney guy.

740
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's kind of like this sort of bubbling

741
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: under because the memoir starts out with a lot of

742
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: Disneyland references. He grows up in Orange County, like they're

743
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: going to Disneyland a lot. As a kid. He talks

744
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: about taking the e ticket rides. Those are the big ones,

745
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: Space Mountain, the Matter Horn. He got his life for

746
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: the Manner Horn when he was nine years old and

747
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: like trying to like comb his hair and look cool

748
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: for the girls at Disneyland. And you're kind of like, okay,

749
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: so that's just like a local thing. But then by

750
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: the end he's like, yeah, like I am a huge

751
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: Disney fan. I'm proposing to my wife at Disney. She's

752
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: like an insane Disney girl. The chapter that introduces her

753
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: is called Disney Girl. It's like, okay, so you're just

754
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: like an adult Disney couple and you're putting your kids

755
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: in like so much matching, like Star Wars lunchboxes.

756
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: And if I may read his vows, oh please, you

757
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: are every Disney princess wrapped up into one woman. You

758
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: have snow White's gentle compassion for others Cinderella has strength

759
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: over come hard times and emerges the bell of the Ball,

760
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: Aril's wit and fasty ness, Princess Jasmine's flashing dark guys,

761
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: the gorgeous tumbling hair for Punzel, the adventurous spirit of Pocahontas,

762
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: and Belle's ability to see the beauty in this beast

763
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Psycho not the Rapunzel.

764
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm also just like, is is Aril so witty? Yeah?

765
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: Yes, that was my question.

766
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: Like, there's one thing I remember from a Little Mermaid.

767
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: It's her wit, her undying wit.

768
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: She's feisty.

769
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: And then the proposal was completely insane. They're at Disneyland

770
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: and he like prepares this like special whatever like stadium

771
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 2: for her. We sit for a minute, cooling off, taking

772
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: in all the large screens. Then the screens begin to

773
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: glitch and the music stops. The room goes dark. She

774
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: squeezes my hand. Oh no, I say, what the hell

775
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: is going on in here? Slowly, each screen in the

776
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: room starts to flicker on and play a montage a

777
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: video for Caitlyn that I cut together, featuring all the

778
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: meat cutes and fallen in love moments in Disney animated

779
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: films throughout the years. So he like made this insane

780
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: super cut of just like the Beauty and the Beast

781
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: and like Aladdin meeting Jasmine, like a clip of the

782
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: adorable robot Wally, as well as Bambi, Aladam being the

783
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Beast and more. It ends with an animation our talented

784
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: friend Paul Briggs put together for me as Keiths the

785
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: girls from The Little Mermaid starts to play. Sebastian holds

786
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 2: up a sign between his pincers that reads, go on

787
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: and ask the girl, and I get down on one knee.

788
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: I barely get out the words will you marry me?

789
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: Before Caitlyn crumples into my he arms. We're both crying

790
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: happy tears on the floor. She says, yeah. Yeah, it's like,

791
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: so you are a fall of Disney adult Okay, go off.

792
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh that to me, it's like, yes, you love Disney.

793
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: But something is so like he wouldn't have done that

794
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: for a back. It's like being like, I'm marrying someone

795
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: younger and I'm also ready to have kids, so I'm

796
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna do this whole.

797
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Like Okay, it's I'm refinding like my childhood's side. Yeah,

798
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: by dating someone ten years younger and or like twenty years.

799
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Younger, and she was already the pregnant. So he's being

800
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: so like, look, I'm already like ready to like watch

801
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: tons of Disney movies to dad the fuck up.

802
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: Fuller segment. How does she eat?

803
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: What does she wear?

804
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: How does she live?

805
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: What does she eat?

806
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: Like?

807
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: He obviously like loves portions.

808
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: But I think he is, like he looks amazing and

809
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: he's literally Greek, and I think it's no bread, Like

810
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I think he's doing like a stunning lamb, stunning like octopus.

811
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 2: You think that's his secrets, No carbs.

812
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's like grilled lemonee meats and fish.

813
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: But he's like an eighties guy, like he likes bread

814
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: and he's a mama's boy. Mama's boys love bread.

815
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: Well, he said his favorite meal to make for his

816
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: pregnant wife is huevos john stamos, which is just like

817
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of eggs and tortillas. To me, I think,

818
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, he has bread when he wants to do.

819
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: But I think he's just a little bit less red

820
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 2: meat now because he's a little bit like, Okay, I'm

821
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: watching my like cluster.

822
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: Oh it's like so nineties less red meat.

823
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, But he's like, it's like, hello, peda. There's a

824
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 2: lot of pita in the high there is.

825
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: But I think he's having more octopus. He has this

826
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: whole joke about him and Bob Saget like order carpoosy,

827
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: which is like octopus, and then they call it car pussy.

828
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's like.

829
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: Man, we laughed. Oh wait. Also, he tells the full

830
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Alana's tea in this book Once and for All, he lays.

831
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Down the word because famously, in her big hit single

832
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: You Oughtn't Know, she's talking about going down on someone

833
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: in the theater and that someone is.

834
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: David Lee, and the way he describes it is so funny,

835
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: and it is just Dave Coolier like in his car

836
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: being like, damn, this album's really good. Guess I heard her.

837
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: But they're both just like what an amazing female rock

838
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: and roll singer. Okay, so I guess Lamb is red meat,

839
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: but it's like better for you.

840
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: I feel like Lamb is sort of halfway between red

841
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: and right in this way right, Like, I agree with you,

842
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: it's red meat, but I do feel like it's more

843
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: health coded. I feel like Mark Bidman once was just

844
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: like there's no two ways around it, like lamb has

845
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: had a better story behind it than anything else that's

846
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: getting on your plate. Yes, because it's like lambs will

847
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: have had a better life and like the lamb industry

848
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: is not as despicable.

849
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard that. Basically, what is he? He's Greek cloud.

850
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: He's Greek. Okay, that's our incredible insight.

851
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: Also feta salads, yes, olives.

852
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: Docos, the sort of stale bread salad which you think

853
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: he doesn't eat because he doesn't eat bread.

854
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: Well, he's also so like dad's cooking pancakes.

855
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: Yes, so like he's making cornflake chicken. I disagree, but

856
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: that's so like Dad's cooking. I think he's he's so

857
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: Disney lamb.

858
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: True.

859
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just like I thin kito's what panco is.

860
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he knows, but he makes corn flake chicken. Goes

861
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: more fun.

862
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. No one's it for main

863
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: me corn flake chicken before.

864
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: Oh that's that. That was one of my dad's, like

865
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, four recipes growing.

866
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess that's what I'm saying. Like it's more Greek.

867
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: He's like cornfit chicken, please, grilled it with lemon and

868
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: olives and feta and ducos.

869
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: But again, hello the diner. It's like the way he

870
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: talks about fooger enough wasn't like my mom was always

871
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: like heaving a big batch of olive oil around like

872
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: it was greasy spoon.

873
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: No, his mom is completely epic though, and like chased

874
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: Down Sinatra and was like remember when we kissed in

875
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: Vegas and one of like Sinatra's like big, strong armed

876
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: man like stops her and is like, lady, got your pick.

877
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: The mom seems more like wholesome than that, though, we

878
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: because he's always sharing these notes that she writes in

879
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 2: these little handwritten notes where she's just like Johnny, baby,

880
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: I love you more than the sun, moon and stars.

881
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 2: You're everything a mommy could ever want. Yeah, I hope

882
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: you know how loved you are and how grateful we

883
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: are that you're so successful. That's like big kisses and

884
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: hugs always forever. And it's like he's forty two and

885
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 2: he's getting that letter in the mail.

886
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: Well, I believe, but that's the same type of mom

887
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: that does Chased Down Sinatra. She's so like autographed book

888
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: about it.

889
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: It's autograph book vibes. And that's again why I don't

890
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: think she's so olive oil, and so I don't think

891
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: and I think he is more cornflike chicken, and that's kirking.

892
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: Well, we'll go to his Malibu pad with his beautiful

893
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: Disney wife and see what they're cooking up.

894
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: Okay, what does he wear? Just like he's so Macy's,

895
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: He's so Macy's.

896
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: Like he's also so suitsupply, Like he has like so

897
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: many different suits. Like he's like, let me grab the

898
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: blue blazer and like put on this cream blazer. And

899
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: it's always just like black, button up shirt, open chest hair.

900
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, buttonup shirt open. The man does not have a tie.

901
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: No, he like started the tie list kind of ninety

902
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: sexy man ways. And obviously his full house style was

903
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: pretty epic, leather vess boots.

904
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: His more Phonsie style because Pansie was another big like

905
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: inspiration for him. But like all, he's now more Zegna

906
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: coded and more Obama vibes. How do they live? I

907
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: guess the question is to what extent their Disney addiction is,

908
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: Like President has taken over?

909
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: Was I feel like before he had this like Malibu

910
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: bachelor pad and it was overlooking the ocean, he'd have

911
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: like the Olsen Twins over like.

912
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: No, and it was so like shag carpeting and like

913
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: Boogie Nights and he was like fucking every Chicken Hollywood,

914
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 2: like between Rebecca and Caitlin.

915
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: But now I think like it is a little more

916
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: like Wayfar and Disney because like he's married and it's

917
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: like kid safe.

918
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, it's kid safe, and there's like outlook covers. So

919
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: is the Disney happening where there's like it's more like

920
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: my aunt and uncle Mickey and Donald who have like

921
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: a full room of insane and yes those are their

922
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: real names, who have a whole room of been saying

923
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: like McDonald's like for Disney chochkeys or is it more

924
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: like he has like one vintage original Mickey Mouse like

925
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: animation cell that's like framed, yes, and it's super like chic.

926
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: I was literally about to say cell because once I

927
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: went to this like guy's house who's actually like he

928
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: invented sports betting and like now does have a podcast

929
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: on barstool and his whole house I'll say his name's

930
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: tou Finer, and his whole house was like Finstone cells

931
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: and it was like really.

932
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: White spencer that sounds like in a horder way, like

933
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: you're saying there's cells everywhere, and I feel like that

934
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: was so like big heavy furniture and so long island.

935
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, this to me is like maybe he's more

936
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: one cell one cell and it's like chic and it's

937
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: not being so like oh and then he's played out

938
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: so many bins and being like and this is my

939
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: original nineteen sixty five mini mouse. No.

940
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: I think Stamos is like since he is so beach

941
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: boys in Sinatra, Like he has a crazy office man

942
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: room that is like beautifully decorated, but it's like so

943
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: many photos of him with the beach boys, that photo

944
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: of him and Sinatra that his father wouldn't get in

945
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: because his father was too prideful. And then like in

946
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: the bedroom is maybe some like you know, gorgeous wedding

947
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: photos and then like a few frame photos of them

948
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: with their daughter at Disney, and then one cell.

949
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: I think you're right that it's more wayfair and there's

950
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: a lot of throws and it's a lot of beige

951
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: and kind of like high backed chairs. I think that

952
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: it's high.

953
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Bed, high bed high.

954
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: Calyn's a little Disney girl. She wants to be in

955
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: a big princess bed, absolutely, and she can let her

956
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: Rapunzel like hair down from.

957
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: And let that ril whit of hers go wid.

958
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Okay, this book ultimately was who are you in the book?

959
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Oh?

960
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, jump ahead, I'm serial killer Richard Ramire.

961
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: Okay. I was gonna say I'm John Samos because I'm

962
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: such a fan and always I trying to be like

963
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: Sinatra and the Beach Boys. But actually i think I'm

964
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: a little more Lorettas, and I'm already have the photo

965
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: with Sinatra and I'm chasing him down again being we remember,

966
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: and then like Jilly Rizzo is stopping me.

967
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: Yes, no, fair enough, And in reality I'm maybe a

968
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 2: little bit more Lori Laughlin, where I am bravely going

969
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: to jail for two months you wish for tax evation.

970
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, people are talking shit. I'm like, you, guys,

971
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: Steve is really brave. Okay. No one would have handled

972
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: that like he did.

973
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: He could have thrown his friends and family under the bus,

974
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: but he decided to protect his daughters.

975
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: And that's what's so beautiful, not to be crazy. I

976
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: give this book like it's a classic celebrity memoir in

977
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: this way where crazy. I'm already crazy. I'm giving it.

978
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: I know you're about to go crazy.

979
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: Three three point eight Greek big good portions at the

980
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: Palms out of five. Like, I just have a lot

981
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: of fun, like reading all the kind of just like

982
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: anecdotes about full House and like auditioning for random shows,

983
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, I love those, you know, just like random

984
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood details.

985
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 2: Like I liked that it was honesty. I liked him

986
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: just being like Mary Kay was better at the dramatic scenes,

987
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: Ashley was better at the comedic ones like that, and

988
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: that makes so much sense, by the way, But I

989
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: I guess I give this book two point six duuys

990
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: out of five just because it's way too much Beach

991
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 2: Boys ultimately, like it's you know, he's a nice guy,

992
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: and I think the personality shines through, and that's great.

993
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: It's great for him. I guess I didn't mind what

994
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm kind of saying. I was like, I didn't mind

995
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: half of those book being about the Beach Boys, and

996
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: it let me dive into some Beach Boys albums I

997
00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: haven't listened to yet.

998
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: So just wish it were just a little bit more

999
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: like detailed. When he's saying that he likes the portion

1000
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: size that the palms like I wanted him to be

1001
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: a little bit more like Lori Laughlin was wearing like

1002
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: a red as Adalayah crop.

1003
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: I guess at the end of the day he is,

1004
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, but could he be coaching?

1005
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: Could he be kay just describing the people's outfits more.

1006
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: But I'm also grateful that this book got me to

1007
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: watch the totally ridiculous should be a cult classic eighties

1008
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: movie called Never Do Young to Die. What you should

1009
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: see John Samus, You're an all right dude.

1010
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: You're an awesome dude, and you like are my brother,

1011
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: and like fuck yeah, keep on plugging and like, can't

1012
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: wait to see what CBS to coump you do next.

1013
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: Should we simultaneously say his iconic catchphrase from Full House?

1014
00:51:49,160 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, be best everyone, man. This episode is a book.

1015
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: Club is Stephen and Lily was produced by Darby Masters,

1016
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: who starred with me in nine seasons of Fuller House.

1017
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: Great gal oh huge, Thank you to our supervising producer

1018
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: Abu Zafar. You're awesome man, and it was executive produced

1019
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: by Christina Everett. We almost made out one set Disneyland,

1020
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: but wasn't meant to be. This podcast was originally co

1021
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: created with road Out Projects back in nineteen eighty one.

1022
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: Theme song by Stephen Phillips Horse We toured together for

1023
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: twenty seven years. Thank you, Steven. Artwork by Teddy Blanks

1024
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: awesome dude. We meet up at the Palm every Saturday.

1025
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: Oh we used to meet for whiskey. We don't meet

1026
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: for whiskey anymore. Please subscribe on iHeart Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify.

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Speaker 1: You know the works have mercy