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Speaker 3: In twenty twelve, six years after twenty one year old

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Speaker 3: college student Nina Ingram was strangled at her apartment in Fable,

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Speaker 3: there was an arrest and a man named Rico Cone

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Speaker 3: civil lawsuit against the Fayeteful Police Department, suing several officers

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Speaker 3: The lawsuit alleged that the case against Rigo Cone was weak,

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Speaker 3: Fayetteville Police Department allegedly failed to follow up on. One

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Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Townsend.

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Speaker 3: Gone Murder Line. Between the time of the murder and

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Speaker 3: Rico Cone's arrest in twenty twelve, there were several tips

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Speaker 3: When the detective talked to Michael Robbins, Michael told police

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing about a front window. Though that front

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Speaker 3: Jarvis told Nikki that he had worked with Nina at Walmart.

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Speaker 3: He said that he quote was pretty sure he knows

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Speaker 4: often she was at my place versus her place. There

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Speaker 4: may be you know, obviously everybody has some consistencies, but

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Speaker 4: I don't recall that there would be anything that somebody

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Speaker 4: would have picked on quickly. But I wouldn't be aware

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Speaker 4: of anybody that would have been stalking her.

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Speaker 3: Josh also said he was surprised when Rico Cone was

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Speaker 3: arrested because this was not someone he'd ever seen before.

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Speaker 3: We are still trying to narrow down the identities of

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Speaker 3: men who were talking to Nina, and one of them,

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Speaker 3: you may remember from past episodes, was someone named Joey.

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Speaker 4: There's the thing about where Nina was in her life

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Speaker 4: at the time. She did a lot with business school

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Speaker 4: and business classes. You know, oftentimes there's group projects, there's

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Speaker 4: group work, and there were times that she would be

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Speaker 4: interacting with a lot of different guys do that through

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Speaker 4: the work. I knew a lot of the guys she

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Speaker 4: worked with, I didn't know all of them. I recall that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there are times that she would be talking with different

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Speaker 4: guys on through chat and stuff. But I found a

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Speaker 4: lot of it was for school, but I don't remember

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Speaker 4: a Joey specifically.

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Speaker 3: Josh told police that he remembered Nina contacting someone online

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Speaker 3: on April twenty first from his apartment before she left,

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Speaker 3: and later a text from someone named Joey was found

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Speaker 3: on Nina's phone. We spoke to Nina's cousin. She told

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Speaker 3: us that Joey was one of Nina's cousins. We asked

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Speaker 3: Josh about some of the names mentioned in the case file.

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Speaker 3: Josh said that he did not remember Freddie Hollingsworth, the

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Speaker 3: friend and co worker of Nina's who stopped by her

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Speaker 3: apartment a couple of days after the murder, who we

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Speaker 3: talked about a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Josh said that.

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Speaker 3: He did remember police asking him briefly about Freddie Hollingsworth,

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Speaker 3: but again he said he didn't know Freddy, but he

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Speaker 3: did know Jarvis. We also asked Josh about his relationship

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Speaker 3: with Jarvis.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that was friends with Jarvis. I was

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Speaker 4: friendly with him, just like any kind of work acquaintance.

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Speaker 4: This is when I worked at the Fatal Supercenter on MLK.

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Speaker 4: So I worked there through college, and so I knew

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Speaker 4: a lot of people that worked there, and so when

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Speaker 4: she got transferred to that store, we knew a bunch

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Speaker 4: of the same people. Well, that particular store, being a

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Speaker 4: college town, has a lot of college age employees, and

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Speaker 4: Jarvis was near our age. I would see him in the

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Speaker 4: break rooms and there'd be times where there'd be broader

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Speaker 4: social gatherings, friendly turns, but I wouldn't call him a friend.

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Speaker 4: We didn't hang out together and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: But he said he did remember police coming to talk

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Speaker 3: to him about Jarvis's domestic situation sometime in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was made aware of that situation. I believe

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Speaker 4: in twenty twelve. My interpretation of Jarvis, he was a

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Speaker 4: friendly guy and he would always be sociable, but then

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Speaker 4: he would flort with the girls, and it was very

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Speaker 4: obvious that he would do that. I think it was

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Speaker 4: sometimes that friendliness there, that poordness that he would have

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Speaker 4: with women, could be a little bit off pudding. He

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Speaker 4: did know us. I don't know why he'd say we

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Speaker 4: were friends, but I will tell you that during this

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Speaker 4: time around the funeral, he did it first to me,

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Speaker 4: got my number, called me a coupside, or texted me

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Speaker 4: and was like, hey, you know, if you need anything

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Speaker 4: and just let me know. And it did seem like

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Speaker 4: he was trying to insert himself into the situation more

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Speaker 4: than I would have expected for somebody who was on

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Speaker 4: the outside of it looking in. But at the time

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Speaker 4: I just talked it up to you, well, when you

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Speaker 4: have a tragic event like this that happens, people react

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Speaker 4: differently and in a lot of different ways to that,

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Speaker 4: and so I thought it was a little odd. At

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Speaker 4: the same time, it wasn't anything where I'm like, this

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Speaker 4: is strange to me.

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Speaker 3: Josh talked about what a kind person Nina was, how

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Speaker 3: full of life she was, how hard she worked, and

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Speaker 3: about the dreams she had.

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Speaker 4: She was well liked, liked her. She was very busy

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Speaker 4: with school, working full time, and was focused on that.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't living a risky lifestyle in any way outside of

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Speaker 4: an asset protection, which you know, there are thousands of

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Speaker 4: people do that and with no issues. But she didn't

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Speaker 4: deserve it. And I just feel for her family because

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Speaker 4: I know, especially Judy, I have children am now and

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Speaker 4: I just can't imagine going through that. We had only

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Speaker 4: been dating for eight nine months, and that's just a

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Speaker 4: very short amount of time, and I know the impact

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Speaker 4: that it had on me. I can't have them the

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Speaker 4: impact that it had on her parents, her brothers. There

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Speaker 4: was just a trategy for her family. And the fact

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Speaker 4: that they haven't been able to find anybody or convict anybody,

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Speaker 4: the family never got that closure.

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Speaker 1: Believe that Nina Ingram's case is solvable.

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Speaker 3: If you have any information about Nina Ingram's homicide, please

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Speaker 3: contact the Fayetfulee Police Department. And if you knew Nina

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Speaker 3: or worked with her, or know someone who worked with

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Speaker 3: her at the sixth Street Walmart in two thousand and six,

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Speaker 3: please reach out to us. Don't assume that police interviews

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Speaker 3: have already been done, because as we've seen, there were

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Speaker 3: a lot of people who police did not talk to

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Speaker 3: you in two thousand and six, and any piece of information,

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Speaker 3: no matter how small, could be the key to solving

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Speaker 3: this case. Remember, if the Viscat profile is correct, the

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Speaker 3: killer was someone Nina Ingram knew, and unless they're dead,

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Speaker 3: the killer could still be out there. I'm Catherine Townsend.

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Speaker 3: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen Gone Murder Line

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Speaker 3: is a production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 3: It's written and narrated by Catherine Townsend and produced by

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Speaker 3: Gabby Watts. Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for her research

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Speaker 3: assistance and James Wheaton for legal review. Noah Kamer mixed

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