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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. We are

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Speaker 2: both super excited to welcome in right now with US

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Speaker 2: Arizona Senate candidate Carrie Lake. Carrie, we got a lot

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Speaker 2: to hit run through with you, but let's start here.

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Speaker 2: I know that it is a national presidential election that's underway.

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Speaker 2: But when you hear Biden want to debate on June

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Speaker 2: twenty seventh and on September tenth, what do you think

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Speaker 2: that debate will be like for Trump and Biden? And

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Speaker 2: what does it tell you that Biden wants debates so soon?

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Speaker 2: Your state, Arizona is a battleground state. How is the

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Speaker 2: national election playing and how do you think all that

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Speaker 2: will implicate your race?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited to watch these debates. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be musty. It's interesting. You know, he acted like

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Speaker 4: mister tough guy in his video, but when you read

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Speaker 4: this small print, he's got a lot of requirements for

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Speaker 4: that debate. No crowds, because I'm sure he knows he'd

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Speaker 4: boot off the stage by just everyday average Americans, you know,

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Speaker 4: even Democrats. I'm out in the field. I'm out campaigning

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Speaker 4: right now, and I'm going to town and the crowds

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Speaker 4: are increasingly growing with Democrats who are attending to hear

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Speaker 4: what I have to say about turning Arizona around and

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Speaker 4: helping our country. They are set up the sky high

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Speaker 4: Inflation's affecting them just as it's affecting Republicans. So I

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Speaker 4: think he's afraid of even Democrat voters at this point.

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Speaker 4: But it's going to be great. President Trump, no matter

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Speaker 4: what the requirements Joe Biden puts on, will win this debate.

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Speaker 4: I'm putting all my money on President Trump, and I

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Speaker 4: think the rest of this country is as well.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Kerry, thanks for being here with us.

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Speaker 5: The way they're structuring this, let's assume that Trump more

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Speaker 5: or less agrees to the the laundry list of things

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Speaker 5: that Biden wants. You were as certainly people in Arizona now,

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Speaker 5: I think a lot of other folks now have come.

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Speaker 2: To know this as well.

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Speaker 5: About you a TV news anchor for decades, right, so

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Speaker 5: you've been in the media game for a long time

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Speaker 5: before you were running for politics. On political office, what

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Speaker 5: do you think the best way is that this should

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Speaker 5: be structured. Is there even a moderator that you think

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Speaker 5: would be acceptable to both sides that would work in

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Speaker 5: this case? How do you break that down?

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Tough because you know, so many people are if you

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Speaker 4: say one nice thing about President Trump, they say, oh,

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Speaker 4: you're maga and you're not fair anymore. But I think

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Speaker 4: there are moderators who could. I've done debates, I've moderated

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Speaker 4: debates and forums before, and you know, you have to

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Speaker 4: check your beliefs and your views to the side and

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Speaker 4: just be fair. And I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: people right now who could do that. You know, Joe

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Speaker 4: Rogan would be great. You can't say Joe Rogan is

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Speaker 4: a Republican or a Democrat. I think he's truly independent.

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Speaker 4: Scott Adams, I can think John Solomon is a true

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Speaker 4: journalist out there. Maria Bartiromo, he would be great because

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Speaker 4: she understands the economy, you know, and all of the

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Speaker 4: questions that are going to be based on the economy.

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Speaker 4: You need to have someone who truly understands what they're

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Speaker 2: By by the way, breaking news, I.

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Speaker 4: Think we should have a live audience absolutely, and maybe

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Speaker 4: even take some questions from the audience.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt at all. By the way, Carrie,

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Speaker 2: this just came from Trump. He says he wants Biden

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Speaker 2: to debate him on Fox News Wednesday, October two, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Host would be Brett Baer and Martha McCollum.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, So that literally just came down from Trump.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Arizona. New York Times Ciena polling.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you get all sorts of poles that are

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Speaker 2: currently underway in Arizona showed Trump opening up a substantial

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Speaker 2: lead in Arizona. You are in a super tight race

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Speaker 2: with Ruben Diego, your opponent out there. Do you think

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Speaker 2: Trump is winning Arizona right now? First part of this question,

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Speaker 2: like the New York Times Siena poll showed, and what

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Speaker 4: Well, I saw that poll and I had a meeting

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Speaker 4: First of all, when you look at the fine print

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Speaker 4: in that pole, they underrepresented Republicans, even though Republicans have

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Speaker 4: But regardless of how you look at it, we're right

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Speaker 4: President Trump, I believe is up bigger than what the

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Speaker 3: He's up.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the streets of Arizona every day. And you've

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Speaker 4: got to remember, you know, Ruben Diego, my radical far

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Speaker 4: left Chicago demoocraft frankly marks this opponent. He just spent

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Speaker 4: seven million dollars and carpet bomb the airways with a

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Speaker 4: bunch of bogus ads trying to paint him as a

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Speaker 4: moderate when he is the most radical Democrat to ever

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Speaker 4: He actually makes Elizabeth Warren an AOC look almost moderate.

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Speaker 4: He just spent seven million dollars and did not see

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Speaker 4: a bump in the polls. They are in panic mode.

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Speaker 4: They just announced they're going to put twenty million more

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Speaker 4: the toilet and run a bunch of ads. People are

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Speaker 4: awake to who Reuben Diego is. He's voted for the

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Speaker 4: open border policies, he's pro sanctuary city, he marched and

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Speaker 4: defund the police rallies. He has voted in one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent in lockstep with Joe Biden. He's the reason we're

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Speaker 4: seeing the high inflation rates. He's the reason we're seeing

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Speaker 4: crisis that we can't even afford. It's because he has

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Speaker 4: pushed these disastrous, dead end policies that Joe Biden is pushing.

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Speaker 4: The scary thing is he's a Biden mini me when

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Speaker 4: it comes to policy. But he's forty years younger. So

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Speaker 4: if we don't stop him right now, we're going to

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Speaker 4: have a guy who, for forty years, can bring a

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Speaker 4: into the US Senate. And that's why we all have

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Speaker 4: to get out, get registered to vote, start talking to

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Speaker 4: our neighbors, make sure they're registered to vote. Nobody can

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Speaker 4: afford to sit home this next election. I feel confident

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Speaker 4: that President Trump will win in sweep Arizona, and I

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Speaker 4: feel confident that I will win. He has endorsed me

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Speaker 4: he wants me to help him out when I get

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Speaker 4: to the US Senate and getting his America First agenda

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Speaker 5: We're talking to Kerry Lake, she's running for a critical

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Speaker 5: Senate seat in Arizona.

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Speaker 7: Carry.

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Speaker 5: I'm just wanting you mentioned some of the big ticket items,

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Speaker 5: if you will, things like the border, inflation, the economy,

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Speaker 5: those are all trending against Biden and all the Democrats

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Speaker 5: who go along with him, like Diegos, your opponent in

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Speaker 5: this race. What about the campus protests and the Biden

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Speaker 5: administration's knifing Israel in the back? Is that nationally we

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Speaker 5: know that has some real implications. We're seeing it planned

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Speaker 5: in Michigan. Does it have any implications as you can

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, hon, every I mean, it just shows he's

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Speaker 4: showing our allies that we don't stand by them, and

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Speaker 4: it's going to make things worse for us when it

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Speaker 4: comes to foreign policy. Right now, you know, Biden is

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Speaker 4: We used to have peace through strength, Now we have

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Speaker 4: it's been disastrous. But let me tell you what I'm

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Speaker 4: seeing on the ground. We've been going to college campuses.

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Speaker 4: This young group of people that are in college right

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Speaker 4: fact that Joe Biden not only is he not cool,

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Speaker 4: realizing that we have to get back to a strong

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Speaker 4: You know the unemployment numbers that Biden released, I think

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Speaker 4: it was three point four unemployment, but when you look

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Speaker 4: closer for young people eighteen to forty nine, it's eleven

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Speaker 4: point one percent unemployment. They also recognize that the things

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Speaker 4: and they are very quickly becoming America First Republicans. So,

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Speaker 4: plus they're watching all of that chaos on the campus,

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Speaker 4: people who fund the Democrats and Joe Biden and my

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Speaker 4: opponent Ruben Guyenko. The people funding all of that chaos,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw the Arizona State Forack. Guys. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: standing up to them. Question for you, Carrie, abortion has

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Speaker 2: been a mess all over the country, in particular focused

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Speaker 2: in Arizona. Eighteen sixty four law the Arizona Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: I believe have addressed this. What is going on there?

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Speaker 2: How much of an issue do you believe, not only

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Speaker 2: it's going to be there is abortion going to play

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Speaker 2: What are you hearing on the ground and what's the

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the Democrats want to make that their issue,

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Speaker 4: but the real fact of the matter is when people

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Speaker 4: up in housing them services, I think that it takes

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Speaker 4: a back burner. I think it really is on the

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Speaker 4: back burner. We are back to the law that we

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Speaker 4: had for several years, the fifteen week law. It was

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Speaker 4: a Republican governor signed it into law. That is our

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Speaker 4: get to the polls will decide on that. We will

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Speaker 4: have the choice between the fifteen week law and a

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Speaker 4: legalize abortion right up until birth. So I agree with

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Speaker 4: President Trump. It's going to be up to the states.

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Speaker 4: The people of Arizona will decide which law they want.

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Speaker 4: And I'm running for US Senate, so this is now

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Speaker 4: in the hands.

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Speaker 6: Of the state.

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Speaker 4: But I will tell you this as a US Senator,

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Speaker 4: I will never vote to approve federal funding to support abortion.

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Speaker 4: I will also never vote for a federal abortion ban.

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Speaker 4: I agree with the Supreme Court it should be left

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Speaker 4: up to the states. But what I do want to

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Speaker 4: see is that we work with pro family legislation to

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Speaker 4: encourage families. We're watching our population growth. It's going way down.

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Speaker 4: We're actually going to be at a critical point if

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Speaker 4: and so I want to push good pro family laws

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Speaker 2: only be made up of women. I think there are

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Speaker 2: tens of millions of people out there, like you and me,

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Speaker 2: who are persuadable to recognize that things are broken in

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Speaker 2: this country. They need to be fixed, and much of

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Speaker 2: the breaking is being done by the left wing in

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Speaker 2: this country. How many people do you think are out

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Speaker 2: there persuadable and how do you think they respond to

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Speaker 2: you when you make that argument?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I mean millions to tens of millions of

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Speaker 3: people at at a minimum. You know, my evidence is

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Speaker 3: purely anecdotal at this point. But I live out of

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Speaker 3: a suitcase, and I travel across the country, and I

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Speaker 3: meet people and hear from people every single day who

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Speaker 3: say the same thing that you just said, who resonate

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Speaker 3: deeply with my experience in your experience, who are now

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Speaker 3: being called conservatives or right wing Republicans simply for standing

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Speaker 3: up and stating what is obvious in objective truth of biology,

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Speaker 3: between the differences between a man and a woman standing

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Speaker 3: up and saying that the government should not be censoring speech.

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Speaker 3: Free speech is free speech in America. That the government

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Speaker 3: shouldn't be weaponizing its institutions against its political opponents. That

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Speaker 3: our streets should be safe and our police should be

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Speaker 3: allowed to do their jobs, our borders should be secure.

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Speaker 3: These things are not radical ideas, They are fundamentally American ideals.

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Speaker 3: And I specifically focused in my book about each chapter

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Speaker 3: dedicated to one of these major fundamental principles. And this

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Speaker 3: is where I see hope and opportunity in this election

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Speaker 3: and where I've experienced my ability to connect with people

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Speaker 3: and let them know, Hey, it's not only okay for

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Speaker 3: you to walk away from the craziness of the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 3: but we must seize this moment as Americans and fulfill

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Speaker 3: our responsibility as citizens to save our country and to

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Speaker 3: defend our freedom and make sure we send President Biden

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Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris packing on election day.

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Speaker 2: Tulsi, you not only managed to write a best selling book,

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Speaker 2: you did it without bragging about killing a puppy or

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Speaker 2: meeting Kim Jong un. Congratulations, Thank you. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you again soon. That is Tulsea Gabbard.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four the most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis and Box Sexton.

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Speaker 2: You're heading out to Arizona right now, where we're going

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Speaker 2: to be joined right now by Abe Hammaday who is

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Speaker 2: running for Congress out in Arizona, battleground state. And Abe,

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Speaker 2: I want to start with this. I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: into the Attorney General of Arizona race with you here

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Speaker 2: in a sec But first, you were a prosecutor. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you've been paying some attention to the Trump case

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Speaker 2: in New York City that Alvin Bragg brought as a prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: How would you analyze the case so far from your perspective, but.

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Speaker 7: A're gonna be with you, Well, if you look at this,

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Speaker 7: you know, people always ask me about my legal analysis

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Speaker 7: on this case, and quite frankly, it's kind of difficult

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Speaker 7: to do that because I think all of us can

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Speaker 7: recognize what is happening. It's a political witch hunt. The

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Speaker 7: case involved, you know, federal issues of election law that

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Speaker 7: was declined way back in twenty seventeen. But Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 7: what he did he brought the third highest ranking member

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Speaker 7: of the Department of Justice to be this prosecutor on

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Speaker 7: this case. So I'm a former prosecutor Clay, and I

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Speaker 7: am ashamed of the legal system. And if you're looking,

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Speaker 7: it's not just in New York with this one case.

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Speaker 7: You see Letitia James, Fanny Willis, you have Chris May's

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Speaker 7: out here in Arizona. Then you had Jack Smith. And

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Speaker 7: what really concerns me is these are attorneys who are

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Speaker 7: in their forties, fifties, and sixties who are this radicalized

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Speaker 7: with this marxisc ieteology. What concerns me, is this new

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Speaker 7: crop that's coming out of the universities, how committed they

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Speaker 7: are going to be to destroying our country in the

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Speaker 7: rule of law. So you know, this is this is

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Speaker 7: why Trump passed to win. And I know the jury

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Speaker 7: pool is very heavily favored in terms of the prosecution,

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Speaker 7: just because it was overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. But if

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Speaker 7: you look at Michael Cohen's testimony, he's a convicted liar

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Speaker 7: multiple times. And I think the defense is doing an

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Speaker 7: excellent job on it. But you know, it's hard when

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Speaker 7: it's stacked against you so much. But I you know,

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Speaker 7: we have to pray and hope that the jury does

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Speaker 7: the right thing. But I think everybody, at least everybody

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Speaker 7: watching this, if they've seen any trials of this case,

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Speaker 7: they're they're looking at this as a witch hunt, and

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Speaker 7: I think it's only helped Trump in his election prospects.

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to dodge this because you're a politician,

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Speaker 2: and politicians are good at dodging questions. This is going

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Speaker 2: to be maybe the most difficult question you get this

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Speaker 2: whole campaign. You went to Arizona State undergrad, you went

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Speaker 2: to the University of Arizona, for law school. Who do

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Speaker 2: you root for when Arizona and Arizona State play and

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Speaker 2: a tie? And by the way, a tie is not

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Speaker 2: an acceptable answer at all, sir, No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: I'm brutally honest.

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Speaker 7: Well, it depends which sport. My brother in law, he

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Speaker 7: was actually an NBA champion who played at ASU, Jeff Ayres.

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Speaker 7: So you know, with basketball it's probably ASU. But you know,

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Speaker 7: typically u of AD does a lot better, but football

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Speaker 7: attends to be u of AID. It really depends on

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Speaker 7: which sport it is. But I had a good time

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Speaker 7: at both schools.

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Speaker 2: I saw, by the way, that is the typical politician answer. Well,

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Speaker 2: in football one thing, basketball another, so both sides can

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Speaker 2: be happy and angry simultaneously. I'm sure you saw the

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Speaker 2: video of the ASU frat guys clearing up the Palestine protests,

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Speaker 2: and it went super viral and intended to be a negative,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of people were like, hey, good for

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Speaker 2: those guys. Would you have believed when you were at

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Speaker 2: ASU and you were at the U of A that

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Speaker 2: it would ever get to the point where Jewish students

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Speaker 2: didn't feel comfortable walking around campus.

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Speaker 7: No, And I think that's what's so scary right now.

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Speaker 7: Clay is how aggressive the Marxists are and has been saying,

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Speaker 7: what it's kind of an unusual alliance that's happening right now.

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Speaker 7: Right You see these I mean these people have purple hair,

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Speaker 7: pink hair, they don't know what gender they are. They're

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Speaker 7: flying this LGBTQ flag along with hes Bolas flags and

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Speaker 7: Palestinian flags, which is unusual, right, But this is what

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Speaker 7: Marxism is. It's it's filled with contradictions. They're using the

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Speaker 7: universities as their training camps. They're using the media as

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Speaker 7: their propaganda arm, and they're using radical Islamist b l

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Speaker 7: M and antifas their military wing. So you know, in

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Speaker 7: combination of all those three things, it's a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 7: And what's you know, I applaud a SU and u

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Speaker 7: of A has been cracking down a lot more aggressively

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Speaker 7: than other schools. And if you saw the frat boys

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Speaker 7: at ASU, it was almost sanctioned by the university. Actually,

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Speaker 7: the police, the undercover police are basically telling them, hey,

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Speaker 7: go do the go, do the dirty work for us.

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Speaker 7: So I'm it's good to see that strong people. You know,

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Speaker 7: courage is contagious. Clay and I think that's what's important.

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Speaker 7: We have to stand for truth. We have to protect

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Speaker 7: you know, these you know we keep saying Jewish UITs,

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Speaker 7: but these are Americans shoes. These are there are fellow Americans.

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Speaker 7: And imagine if the same was in reverse where you

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Speaker 7: saw people at his jobs not allowed to go to

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Speaker 7: campus classrooms. You know, everybody been being up war. So

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Speaker 7: we have to be fair. We have to, you know,

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Speaker 7: protect our Jewish American students. And you know in Congress

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Speaker 7: what I want to do. I want to start going

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Speaker 7: after the universities. They're taking all this money from Qatar, China,

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Speaker 7: the Emirates, and that's the problem right now, is that

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Speaker 7: our universities are captured by foreign countries.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Abe. I'm gonna get you right now.

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Speaker 2: Your name correctly here, Hammaday. You can correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm mispronouncing. One of the things that I do on

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Speaker 2: the show all the time, Abe is mispronounced everybody's name.

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Speaker 2: I think I have the worst phonetics on the planet.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully I'm getting that right. I want you to

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Speaker 2: dive into because you know better than anybody what's going

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Speaker 2: on in Arizona. I'm sitting here in Tennessee. Buck is

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Speaker 2: usually down in Florida, and I'm concerned that in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four the election is going to come down to

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Speaker 2: a few thousand votes in Arizona. And we saw what

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Speaker 2: happened in twenty twenty where it felt like it's a

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Speaker 2: month to figure out what the vote tally was going

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Speaker 2: to be. You know better than anybody, I would say,

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Speaker 2: almost in the entire country in twenty twenty two. You

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Speaker 2: can tell the audience that may not be aware how

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Speaker 2: minimal the gap was between you being the Attorney general

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Speaker 2: of Arizona and you not and all of the issues,

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Speaker 2: particularly Americopa County, but certainly in other parts of Arizona

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Speaker 2: as well. Should we non Arizonas but I'm sure Arizonas

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Speaker 2: certainly want this as well. But for people outside, have

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Speaker 2: you guys fixed the election related issues? Are you confident

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Speaker 2: that in twenty twenty four we talked to carry Lake

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Speaker 2: a couple days ago, you know this tell us your

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Speaker 2: attorney general experience in that race and what happened, and

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Speaker 2: should we be confident at all in the process in Arizona?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, that's a great question. Ed. You're pronouncing my

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Speaker 7: name correctly, Clay, and I don't have an easy name

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Speaker 7: like you at two first names.

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Speaker 2: I actually got three Richard, Clay, Travis, And yes, that

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Speaker 2: causes its own issues, but yeah, tell us about the

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Speaker 2: attorney general process.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely so. In twenty twenty two here in Arizona, we

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Speaker 7: all saw what happened with those machines going down. Ultimately,

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Speaker 7: you know, I supposedly lost my race by two hundred

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Speaker 7: and eighty votes out of two point five million, the

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Speaker 7: closest race in Arizona history, Clay. And there's still nine

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Speaker 7: thousand uncounted ballots from election day. And what's interesting about

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Speaker 7: that is a lot of these ballots that were not

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Speaker 7: counted are actually legitimate ballots. One of them is a

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Speaker 7: husband of a state senator who's an Army veterans for

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Speaker 7: thirty years. Imagine his vote did not count. It was counted.

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Speaker 7: They've classified as a provisional ballot. So, and we overwhelmingly

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Speaker 7: won election day votes. That's why those machines were targeted.

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Speaker 7: I believe they were targeted, and they went down in

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Speaker 7: my congressional district that I'm running, and it was hit

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Speaker 7: the hardest, and it was a very Republican area with

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Speaker 7: the most amount of seniors in the entire state. And

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Speaker 7: those you know, those people can't wait in line for

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Speaker 7: that long. And I tell people that I am not

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Speaker 7: confident about what's going to happen. I'm only confident that

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Speaker 7: me and Kerry Lake have been exposing all of this

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Speaker 7: here in Arizona. But unfortunately, the same people who ran

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty, in twenty twenty two in Arizona are still

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Speaker 7: in charge. However, I think a lot of these lawsuits,

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Speaker 7: you know, there has been good momentum with it. We

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Speaker 7: have a strong RNC chairwoman, we have a strong Arizona

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Speaker 7: Republican Party chairwoman who's excellent on election integrity. So at

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Speaker 7: least we're vigilant now, but we have to be guarded

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Speaker 7: of course. But you know, with President Trump, I think

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Speaker 7: they're worried right now. Clay, in twenty twenty, the biggest

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Speaker 7: difference was there wasn't this rise of third parties. If

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Speaker 7: you remember, the Green Party was not on the ballot,

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Speaker 7: RFK Junior was not about. So now you have this

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Speaker 7: combination of all these third parties. So I think it

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Speaker 7: becomes more difficult for the left to positively cheat in

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Speaker 7: this election. I tell folks, you know how they're doing,

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Speaker 7: how they're rigging our elections. It's not just the voter roles,

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Speaker 7: it's not just the machines with the you know, going

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Speaker 7: down its death by a thousand cuts. And that's something

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Speaker 7: that I've learned over the past two years, and that's

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Speaker 7: why I'm so excited. You know, I've endorsed by President

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Speaker 7: Trump and carry Lake because they know I'm a strong fighter.

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Speaker 7: I don't back down from this corruption. So when I

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Speaker 7: go to Washington, d C. It's going to be one

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Speaker 7: of my top priorities. But my race is July thirtieth,

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Speaker 7: and when I win my primary, it's a very Republican district.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to make sure we recapture the Senate by

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Speaker 7: getting Kerry Lake elected, and we take back the White

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Speaker 7: House by getting President Trump elected. Because this is a

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Speaker 7: do or dielection, everybody recognizes it. And Arizona, You're right,

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Speaker 7: it was the closest state in the country and now

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Speaker 7: it's being headed by these Democrats and unfortunately some of

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Speaker 7: these weak need Republicans who don't want to acknowledge what's happening.

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Speaker 7: But look at just yesterday in Texas, a judge literally

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Speaker 7: just ordered a new election for twenty twenty two. I

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Speaker 7: don't know if you saw that. But you know, people

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Speaker 7: are starting to take election integrity much more seriously now,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's a good thing. We have to

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Speaker 7: really focus on it when we get to Washington, d c.

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Speaker 2: A appreciate the time. Two hundred and eighty votes. I

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Speaker 2: can't even imagine what that's like. We're rooting for you

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Speaker 2: guys all to take back Arizona, flip it back around,

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Speaker 2: and help to restore some sanity in the country. You

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Speaker 2: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact with

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 5: We are joined by Senator Marco Rubio of Florida. Senator Rubio,

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Speaker 5: great to talk to you again.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with this one. I mean, your colleague and

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Speaker 5: the Senate j ed Vance was outside of the courthouse

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Speaker 5: in New York this morning just giving his overview analysis

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Speaker 5: of what an outrage the whole thing is, how despicable

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Speaker 5: he finds the whole trial as you see this in

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Speaker 5: Michael Cohen, the star witness, and all the media focus

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Speaker 5: on it play out in New York. What are your

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Speaker 5: thoughts as somebody who serves this country and loves this country.

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Speaker 6: My thoughts are that we have sanctioned other countries for

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Speaker 6: doing this in their politics, and anti democratic is basically

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Speaker 6: the targeting of the opposite the leading opposition candidate in

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Speaker 6: the next election, not with one trial, but with numerous

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Speaker 6: trials in the most one of the most liberal counties

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Speaker 6: in America, with a Biden supporting judge, a Biden supporting

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Speaker 6: prosecutor who doesn't even go after violent criminals, but has

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Speaker 6: charged them on this, on this, on this ridiculous bookkeeping

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Speaker 6: charge that they've extended to a felony by finnageling federal

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Speaker 6: law for reasons that I can't explain how crazy that is.

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Speaker 6: It's just And then on top of that, the president

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Speaker 6: it's mirrored every single day by including witnesses in this

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Speaker 6: trial like Michael Cohen, and if he responds, he gets

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Speaker 6: fined and announce threatned to jail. This trial, of all

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Speaker 6: the trials, I think are ridiculous, all of them, but

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Speaker 6: this one in particular is the most ridiculous. It makes

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Speaker 6: the country look like a third world banana republic, like

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Speaker 6: a kangaroo court democracy. It's an outrage. It's a complete

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Speaker 6: and total outreage. If that trial was brought in any

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Speaker 6: other jurisdiction in America, just a normal, regular middle road jurisdiction.

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Speaker 6: There's no way to get a conviction if Donald Trump's

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Speaker 6: last name is anything. No other person there is not

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Speaker 6: a single other person in the world who this prosecutor

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Speaker 6: would have charged with this with the same set of facts,

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Speaker 6: other than Donald Trump. So the whole thing is I

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Speaker 6: think an embarrassment to the country and an outreach, and

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Speaker 6: I think people see it for what it is.

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Speaker 5: Senator, when it comes to that last point, is I

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Speaker 5: think the critical one the issue of the American people

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Speaker 5: seeing through this. Not all of them obviously are going

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Speaker 5: to see truth and reality. But how would you describe

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Speaker 5: your confidence at this point that this campaign sort of

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Speaker 5: generally not just New York, but more broadly as well

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Speaker 5: of legal or of law fair. You could say the

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Speaker 5: legal assault on Donald Trump is politically backfiring. Are you

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Speaker 5: seeing that already? You think it's too.

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Speaker 6: Soon to tell. I think even Democrats are embarrassed by it,

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Speaker 6: which is why they barely talk about it. I mean

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Speaker 6: the commentators giggle and energy. You know, CNN is like

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Speaker 6: wall to wall coverage, even though they can't cover it.

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Speaker 6: They're in the courtroom, like I guess someone's texting out

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Speaker 6: what's happening. But beyond that, like the average every day,

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Speaker 6: hard working person, they see it for what. Even people

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Speaker 6: that aren't going to vote for Trump, even people that

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Speaker 6: may not like Trump, No one is under any illusion

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Speaker 6: about what this is about. And of all places, Manhattan,

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Speaker 6: where you have a district attorney that basically if you

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Speaker 6: kill a couple of people, you might not even be charged.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you'll certainly be out on bail waiting a trial,

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Speaker 6: and you drop the charges to something lower. You've got

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Speaker 6: a city where they this DA has notoriously not gone

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Speaker 6: after violent criminals and given people the ace and the

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Speaker 6: ninth chance to go out and reoffend. But they bring

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Speaker 6: this charge, and with this much resources and time. So

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Speaker 6: I think people know there's no way with a straight

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Speaker 6: face to argue that this trial is a legitimate trial

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Speaker 6: or is anything other than political. And I do think

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Speaker 6: that among it's certainly motivating a lot of Trump supporters,

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Speaker 6: but I think it's also influencing a lot of other

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Speaker 6: people that are asking themselves, if in fact, this guy

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Speaker 6: is so terrible and he's so bad, and Biden's so good,

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Speaker 6: then why are they afraid to run? Against them. Why

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Speaker 6: are they doing everything possible and to keep him from

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Speaker 6: being able to campaign and uh and stand for election.

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Speaker 6: In fact, if you read some of the press coverage,

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Speaker 6: they're flat out or saying why aren't all of these

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Speaker 6: trials happening beforehand? All these trus need to happen now.

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Speaker 6: They need to happen right away. We they've got to

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Speaker 6: figure out a way to bring this to trial before

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Speaker 6: the election. They all want this to happen now because they,

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Speaker 6: I believe the only way they think they can beat

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Speaker 6: them at this point.

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Speaker 5: Speaking to Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and Senator I'm

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Speaker 5: sure you've seen that with all the stuff going on

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Speaker 5: in the world of prosecuting Donald Trump, the polls have

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Speaker 5: him across the board ahead in the swing states and

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Speaker 5: mostly considerably ahead and in some cases ahead in every

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Speaker 5: swing state. So the election if it were today, which

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Speaker 5: we know it's not so many months off, but it

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Speaker 5: would look very good for Donald Trump as it stands now.

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Speaker 5: Would you want to be a part of this if offered?

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Speaker 5: Have you discussed being a VP with former President Trump?

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Speaker 3: Never?

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Speaker 6: I've never talked to anybody in the campaign about it.

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Speaker 6: I've read about it, in these papers, but I've never

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Speaker 6: heard it. And the reason I'm not trying to be cloy,

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Speaker 6: the reason why I don't spend a lot of time

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Speaker 6: thinking about it or talking it is because, frankly, there's

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Speaker 6: only one person on the planet who knows who that's

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Speaker 6: going to be, and that's Donald Trump, not his advisors,

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Speaker 6: not the people with inside knowledge of the campaign. He's

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Speaker 6: the only one. He'll make that decision, and he's the

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Speaker 6: only one that knows. So hearing it from anybody other

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Speaker 6: than him is really not something that I would put

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Speaker 6: a lot of credence in.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 6: Look, just to be mentioned, I guess you know, is

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Speaker 6: an honor in and of itself, and I would say

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Speaker 6: this to you. Look, these people, I truly believe if

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden gets another term, these people will destroy the country.

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Speaker 6: They are doing it already. Just think about immigration, ten

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Speaker 6: million people, how many are in three years? How many

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Speaker 6: are going to come in over the next three and

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Speaker 6: at four and a half if he gets re elected. Okay,

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Speaker 6: just that alone. Look at the damage he's done to

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Speaker 6: us around the world. What happened with Afghanistan since that moment,

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Speaker 6: Ukraine's been invaded, Israel's been attacked, not being a lot

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Speaker 6: covered every day, but China is constantly harassing the Philippines

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Speaker 6: and Taiwan that could break out at any moment. North

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Speaker 6: Korea's firing missiles again of greater and great and greater lethalities.

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Speaker 6: The world's gone nuts. Here at home, we got pro homocive.

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Speaker 6: I never, in mind wildest dreams that I ever believed

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Speaker 6: you would see pro hamas sympathizers of terrorism taking over

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Speaker 6: college campuses and flying the Palestinian flag over our campuses

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Speaker 6: and disrupting graduation ceremonies and finals and classes.

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Speaker 5: Do you think on the campus protester center, do you

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Speaker 5: think that's a real legitimate challenge for the Democrats politically

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Speaker 5: or do you think it'll fade away?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a challenge because it's not just

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Speaker 6: about the issue of the month. The issue now that

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Speaker 6: they're focused on is this issue of Hamas and Palestine

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Speaker 6: and their hatred of Israel. But this is the same movement,

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Speaker 6: by the way, the same group of people that are

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Speaker 6: constantly arguing that the US is an evil country of

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Speaker 6: colonizers that were imperialists, This is a nation founded on

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Speaker 6: white supremacy, that the world is divided between victims and victimizers,

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Speaker 6: and we are the victimizers, and so it's an anti Western,

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Speaker 6: anti US sentiment. That are the same people that tomorrow

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Speaker 6: the cause will be something else. But at its core

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Speaker 6: is they hate the country. They want America destroy. They

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Speaker 6: don't view this as a special country worth saving. They

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Speaker 6: view it as an inherently terrible one that needs to

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Speaker 6: be torn down and rebuilt into something else, and that

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Speaker 6: includes not having bordered and things of that nature. So

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Speaker 6: that movement is an enormous liability because it has become

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Speaker 6: a core of the Democratic Party. Not every Democrat, a

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Speaker 6: lot of Democrats don't agree with them, but that's where

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Speaker 6: they get their activists, that's where they get their staff,

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Speaker 6: that's where they populate the State Department and all the

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Speaker 6: other agencies of government. From these are the people that

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Speaker 6: help them raise money. Who funds these groups? We know

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Speaker 6: now it is people that have given millions and millions

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Speaker 6: of dollars to Democratic causes who are funding this movement

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Speaker 6: or the groups that are the seed money for this movement.

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Speaker 6: So it's a huge liability because it pulls Democrats further

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Speaker 6: and further away in their policies from the everyday American,

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Speaker 6: including some who are registered as Democrats are independents, and

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Speaker 6: that's why you're seeing Trump doing well among working classes, Hispanics,

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Speaker 6: working class, after the Americans, working class people across the board.

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Speaker 6: The Democrats have moved so far to the radical left

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Speaker 6: because of this core base of their party that it

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Speaker 6: is more and more people can't coexist with them politically.

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Speaker 5: It seems also that Biden, who's in my view, spent

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Speaker 5: his entire life just trying to find whatever the thing

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Speaker 5: is that he's supposed to say for the most popularity

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Speaker 5: among Democrats in the moment. I mean, I really think

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Speaker 5: that has been what his political career has.

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Speaker 2: Been devoted to.

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Speaker 5: He seems to have been stumped a little bit here

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Speaker 5: on this issue of you know, Hamas and Israel and

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Speaker 5: the pro Palestinian and anti Semitic factions on campus and

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Speaker 5: all the rest of it, to the point where he

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Speaker 5: even started talking about him. You've worked a lot on

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Speaker 5: a foreign affair side of the Senate and foreign policy.

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Speaker 5: For a president to seemingly bend the knee on an

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Speaker 5: issue as important as arms provision to Israel when it's

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Speaker 5: in an ongoing military campaign, I mean this is because

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Speaker 5: he's really worried about losing Michigan. Is it that simple?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Well, and I think there's two things happening here. You've

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Speaker 6: got one element of the Democratic Party that supports Israel,

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Speaker 6: wants us to support Isel, and you've seen some of

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Speaker 6: these members of Congress sending letters and criticizing it. And

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Speaker 6: then the other element are the people in his campaign,

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Speaker 6: the people in staffing, different levels of the State Department,

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Speaker 6: and it's political advisors that are saying, you know, we've

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Speaker 6: got to do something to appease this group. Because of

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Speaker 6: this group stayed home and doesn't vote for us, we're

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Speaker 6: going to lose the election. And so he's trying to

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Speaker 6: have it both ways. He wants to go around saying

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Speaker 6: I'm ironclad with Israel, but then he tries to appease

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Speaker 6: them by saying, but I'm going to cut off their

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Speaker 6: weapons as they go into Rafa or I hate I'm

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Speaker 6: not pro Israel, but I don't like net Yok. So

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Speaker 6: they've tried a lot of different strategies to try to

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Speaker 6: have it both ways here. This is not the kind

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Speaker 6: of issue you can have it both ways. You're either

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Speaker 6: with Israel or you're with the terrorists. You're either supporting

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Speaker 6: Israel's right to destroy this group that did these horrible things,

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Speaker 6: or you're not. You're in favor of that group surviving

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Speaker 6: and coming back and doing it again in the future.

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Speaker 6: And this is not something this is not a needle

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Speaker 6: he can thread. But he is trying to balance that

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Speaker 6: internally because he's I imagine, getting a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 6: pressure from elements of his own staff, I would imagine,

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Speaker 6: and so because they're core of the Democratic Party owner

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Speaker 6: base and the political advisors are basically saying, if we

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Speaker 6: lose Michigan, we're finished. If we lose in Minnesota, we're finished.

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Speaker 6: And if these voters stay home across the country, young

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Speaker 6: people and so forth, were finished. So in an election

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Speaker 6: that's supposed to be close, I imagine they're very worried about

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Speaker 6: this element of their base that not coming out to vote,

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Speaker 6: and they're trying to know them and they're doing damage

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Speaker 6: to the country.

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Speaker 5: As a We're speaking to center Mark or Rubio of

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Speaker 5: Florida and to that end of center Ruby, I know

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Speaker 5: you're a University of Miami guy for law school, right,

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Speaker 5: so you're you Miami Florida gator.

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Speaker 6: Let's I mean, we got to get that right, you know,

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Speaker 6: that's not where I went to undergrad.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say next, I mean you and my

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Speaker 5: wife are both Florida Gators, and she corrected me. Recently,

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Speaker 5: she just said UF. I think I said you of

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Speaker 5: F She said, no, it's just UF. So I'm learning

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Speaker 5: the Gator ways. But about all these schools and the

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Speaker 5: protests and that's going on, there have been some states

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Speaker 5: where this has been with you know, with very large universities,

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Speaker 5: very very popular university systems, where this has been very absent.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's been little bits of it here and there,

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Speaker 5: and it gets shut down very quickly. How do you

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Speaker 5: feel as a UF alum and why has it been different?

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Speaker 5: Is it really just your colleague former colleague in the

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Speaker 5: Senate sass As The chancellor has just said, we're not

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Speaker 5: doing that nonsense here. What's been the difference?

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Speaker 6: I think there's no doubt that's been key to it.

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Speaker 6: It's you know, if you allow groups to say it's

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Speaker 6: set up camp and put up tents and take over

914
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Speaker 6: different buildings, ward gets out and people are going to gravitate,

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Speaker 6: They're going to go there, they go say this is

916
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Speaker 6: the place we need to go because they're allowing them

917
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Speaker 6: to stay, and then that encampment builds, and then these

918
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Speaker 6: professional agitators come in and guide them towards what's the

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Speaker 6: next step. They hand out guide. This is how you

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Speaker 6: get arrested. This is how we resist, This is how

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Speaker 6: we break into buildings. These are you're right, this is

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Speaker 6: what you need to do. This is how to cover

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Speaker 6: your face. And no, I'm going to take a picture

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Speaker 6: of you and then not hire you in the future

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Speaker 6: when you try to get a job. I do think

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Speaker 6: that if you've seen some of the commonality, some of

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Speaker 6: the biggest issues here have been in New York and

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Speaker 6: Los Angeles, a little bit in Washington, DC. These are

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Speaker 6: big cities where a small group of students can become

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Speaker 6: a magnet to bring in these professional agitators and you know,

931
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Speaker 6: part of this whole anti American movement who are always

932
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Speaker 6: looking for a cause to latch onto, and they join

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Speaker 6: and suddenly you know, you've got these encampments going on,

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Speaker 6: and you've got straight up violence and chaos. These are

935
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Speaker 6: not protests. These are a riot. These are unlawful demonstrations,

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Speaker 6: disruptive and harmful. And even if every and I always

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Speaker 6: laugh at the meet, he says, Wow, there's no evidence

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Speaker 6: that they're outside agitators. Okay, I mean there is, and

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Speaker 6: there's plenty of evidence. Who's printing all this stuff, making

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Speaker 6: all the signs, these fancy tenstering and all that. But

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Speaker 6: even if every person in those encampments was a student

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Speaker 6: in most of these universities, you're talking about a very

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Speaker 6: small percentage of the student body, very very small percentage

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Speaker 6: of the student body that's participating. But they're joined by

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Speaker 6: these outside agitators, and they're willing to be violent and

946
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Speaker 6: disruptive and illegal and what they do, and they've got

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Speaker 6: and caused tremendous harm for these institutions. For the life

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Speaker 6: of me, I don't know why anybody who want to

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Speaker 6: go to one of these schools right now.

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Speaker 5: Senator Mark or Rubio Florida Center as a Fello Floridian,

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Speaker 5: thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate it all right, Go getors.