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Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't because I was jamming Alex. You

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Speaker 1: me with a question before right before break about.

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Speaker 3: So we agree that in order for the Bear and

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Speaker 3: for Kayler Wingims specifically to reach his potential, he's gota

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Speaker 3: have to make some adjustments, either him or Ben Jonson's

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Speaker 3: both need to adjust, which one do you think adjusts first?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you who.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer it by saying who should and or

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Speaker 1: coaches can go that's a good point. Number one quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: be that guy. Offensive guru. We saw what you did there.

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Speaker 1: We had to play you multiple times when you know

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Speaker 1: the Lions, what's wrong with you? Kevin O'Connell out here

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Speaker 1: being a quarterback whisper getting everybody, he'd'a got Sam darned

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Speaker 4: What's up with you?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I feel like Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the greatest bear quarterback in sixty years? Then you gotta

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Speaker 1: be fixing this because if Kayleb Williams is just a

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Speaker 4: They might mess around and keep four quarterbacks. That would

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Speaker 4: be and be Why draft all of these? You get

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Speaker 1: Why bringing old veterans who at this point you know what,

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Speaker 4: Know that?

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Speaker 1: Why invent Joe Flacco? Joe Flacco is a guy you

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Speaker 1: and you say, man, we need a quarterback. You call Joe.

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Speaker 1: You say, I know he's got four days, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Four days.

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Speaker 1: Notice he's coaching his sons a and under league. He's

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Speaker 4: But he already has the playbooks.

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Speaker 1: He's already ready and he comes home like, why bring

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Speaker 4: You tell me, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Everything you said is right and and it's makes total sense.

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Speaker 3: What I think is that you're looking at it from

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Speaker 3: why are they doing this? Doesn't make any kind of sense, Like,

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Speaker 3: what are you doing with four quarterbacks? You already know

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Speaker 4: I believe.

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Speaker 3: That the Cleveland Browns are being incompetent on purpose. You

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Speaker 3: think it's conspiracy, Thank you, Alex. So here's what I

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Speaker 3: We all know there it is. It was late, but

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Speaker 1: So we all know.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned it yesterday.

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Speaker 3: The March for Arch is on for several NFL franchises,

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Speaker 3: even as early as July twenty fifth. Today, we know,

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Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints are gonna suck point play period facts.

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Speaker 3: We know going into next season, the Carolina Panther's not

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Speaker 3: So the Cleveland Browns play in what I would consider,

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Speaker 3: what Kenny Pickett is. If we have him under center

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Speaker 3: that two years ago, and we know we can't count

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Speaker 3: on it moving forward because he's eighty seven years old.

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Speaker 4: So what we're gonna do is.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna deliberately suppress Shadeur Sanders because on the off

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Speaker 3: and he messes around and gets us eight wins, nine wins,

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Speaker 3: this guy, it could be that we might carry four quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Shador is never gonna practice with the ones. But it's

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Speaker 3: not because of him. It's because, you know, it's a

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Speaker 3: be okay to start off with one in three, two

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Speaker 3: it's a race to the bottom and we can't let

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Speaker 3: New Orleans beat us. We are on the march for Arch.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be a Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 4: I love that. I love that conspiracy there, and it's

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Speaker 4: not crazy.

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Speaker 1: We've seen teams do that where you know they're sacrificed

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Speaker 4: It is said to be mild back to you all right, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Just the odd couple kelvin Washington, and we got Rob

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Speaker 4: Now it's so weird. Aaron Rodgers too. Not that not

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Speaker 4: Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 6: I think that, you know, there's really only six to

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Speaker 1: First of all, is he starting to sound a little

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Speaker 4: He was giving me a little cur run that back

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Speaker 6: I think there's really only six to eight.

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Speaker 4: No enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: I know, well, because well when you're the ten to

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Speaker 3: I guess somebody picked one of those teams. You're like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely see why Josh Allen finally gets over

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Speaker 1: ten to twelve, what and the everybody gets a participation

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Speaker 1: Don't tell me about No. Ten and no twelves, nothing

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Speaker 1: How many wins? I think we're getting twelve wins. That's

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to be that honest. Ten to twelve,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. But to say ten to twelve teams

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Then if you're telling me it's ten to twelve, if

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Speaker 4: He said that this is probably his last season, So this.

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Speaker 3: In an effort to gas up his team, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like what we put it all on the house on

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Speaker 3: And you know what's funny is I'm looking at the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're supposed to be like the better version

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Speaker 3: Who famously spent more time playing Call of Duty than

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Speaker 4: Ten or twelve according to this.

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Speaker 1: What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: g that's your one year all right, baby, we're all

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 1: You got rid of your start, your best receiver, and

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Speaker 1: here we go. TJ.

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Speaker 4: Wat's been amazing. Guess what, You still ain't want a

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Speaker 1: By the way, You've got the best defender, arguably of

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Speaker 4: But he's in the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll give him that.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they would win nine or ten games,

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Speaker 1: that can't be what you do Steelers. And this is

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Speaker 1: It's not that I think Aaron Rodgers. By the way,

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Speaker 3: one and number two, had an offensive system that was

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Speaker 3: catered to him. He's not gonna have that in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: Bro I told Jared ball that yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, last season, Aaron Rodgers thirty first the NFL, just

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Speaker 3: a QBR twenty first impasser rating, and it was the

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Speaker 3: fourth time in his career that he threw double digit interceptions.

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Speaker 3: And Aaron Rodgers is playing football since his stone age.

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Speaker 1: And now he's with a team that has not been

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Speaker 1: great with the quarterbacks. Yep, to the tune of Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson having beefs with the quarterback coach and to the

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Speaker 1: two of them getting rid of Russell Wilson. They got

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Speaker 1: rid of Justin Fields, who was playing well, not great,

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Speaker 1: was playing well four and two, ten in touchdowns, one interception,

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Speaker 1: they got rid of him. And so again, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that this is a better situation, and it's a

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Speaker 1: new situation. You mentioned the familiarity of the receiving core

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Speaker 1: that they brought in for him with the Jets, the

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Speaker 1: offensive structure, his guy in Hackett, you know, bringing in

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Speaker 1: my entire environment that I know, Allan Lazar Rounds, all

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Speaker 1: the guys, all that comfortable, Devontae Adams of it, Vante Adams,

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Speaker 1: and then now we don't do great. The numbers would

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Speaker 1: that he had the ugly twin of Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the numbers were the.

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Speaker 1: Exact same very simple, as Rob likes to scream, except

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Speaker 1: for a couple of key ones. When you look at

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, he led the NFL in third downs into

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Speaker 1: touchdown conversions.

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Speaker 4: That's huge. I think it was fifty three percent if

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Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. Yeah, but by the number one name

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Speaker 4: with a bullet not even close. Yep. Yeah, And that's Hugh.

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Speaker 1: That's the winning play that a quarterback, and that's historically Aaron.

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Speaker 4: What you used to do is make those plays.

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Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes knew how to finish the game, and

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Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't do that anymore. Aaron might even give you

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Speaker 1: the the ball back to the team tied, but then

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Speaker 1: they go kick a field, go win, and then Rob

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Speaker 1: Parker comes, well the defense, Well how about you give

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Speaker 1: us a lead?

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Speaker 3: Aaron?

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Speaker 1: Aaron, how about you go win it.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you're venting some frustrations to me right now.

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Speaker 1: The more I look at you, the more you turn

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Speaker 1: keep turnings to Rob in your name, and you're talking

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Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers person he has he's blinded for So

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Speaker 1: that's my point. It's just that I don't you're screaming

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Speaker 1: ten and twelve contenders. No, there's not there's no such

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Speaker 1: thing as contenders if there's ten and twelve of them. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: you might have spotted yourself, as you illustrated there, ROGGI,

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Speaker 1: by putting yourself at ten or twelve, meaning you might

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Speaker 1: be more like fifteen eighteen. And then again, if that

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Speaker 1: is what we are, ultimately we go ten and seven,

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Speaker 1: nine and eight, maybe make the playoffs barely a wild

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Speaker 4: That's what we did this for. Then I could have

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Speaker 4: kept Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: You could have who already knew the system, who was younger,

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Speaker 1: and who you know, we might have been able to

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Speaker 1: run it back with and maybe improve on upon what

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Speaker 1: we had last year. All right, player of the day

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Speaker 1: He's gonna join us. He is was that Rams camp

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Speaker 1: different conversations with him as well. So looking forward to

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Speaker 1: do that our next hour, Rob g we get now

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Speaker 1: to a conversation that the prior conversation is Tracy McGrady

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Speaker 1: got a lot of people fired up over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I mean fired up, and that was

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Speaker 1: him understatement, Yeah, that was him speaking. He started this

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Speaker 1: Kobe slander that we've been on. Well, that's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that feel like now, all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's been a lot of Kobe slander,

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Speaker 1: where I actually feel the opposite. I think since his

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Speaker 1: death has been nothing but praise and deservedly so. He's

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all time. Last week, you

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Speaker 1: think it's in a positive week, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: And you've if you've had he died, he passed in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, So if you've had five year run of

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Speaker 1: just okay, crazy, I see what you're saying, and I'm saying, okay,

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Speaker 1: one guy or two say something. We got to relax,

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Speaker 1: acting like I see any of the world. When again

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Speaker 1: this we've literally been praising him statues, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? The whole nine and now team act. Trace

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Speaker 1: McGrady comes up on the podcast and he says what

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Speaker 1: he says, which is essentially that you put me in

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Speaker 1: for Kobe, Me and Shaq win those titles too. Chaos

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Speaker 1: and sues over the last couple of weeks, and then

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Speaker 1: Shack replied.

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Speaker 4: Replied on his own podcast that dropped yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We would have played the sound, but because he talked

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Speaker 3: so low, you can barely understand what he's saying.

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Speaker 1: Can you dig it?

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Speaker 3: Shack agree with t Mac talking to the Morris twins.

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Speaker 3: The Morris Twins obviously disagreed. They're like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think they.

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Speaker 4: Gave him the pushback.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, Rob Parker would have enjoyed it

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Speaker 1: because he always says athletes don't give other athletes.

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Speaker 4: But they did push back. They didn't just go, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're right.

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Speaker 3: So Shack's quote was T Max said, if you switch

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Speaker 3: him in Kobe out, as far as playing with me,

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Speaker 3: the outcome is the same.

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Speaker 4: You don't think I would have won three with T Mac?

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Speaker 4: I think I could have. And let me just say

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Speaker 4: this to Shack.

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Speaker 1: Stop it.

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Speaker 3: We've gotten to a point now where the mythology is

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Speaker 3: Shaquille O'Neil has he clips the player, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: focus on Shaq right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring facts first, I'm gona bring feelings later,

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Speaker 3: because I think both are important. Shaq is credited with

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Speaker 3: being the most dominant player in NBA history.

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Speaker 1: For my money, he is.

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Speaker 3: He is the most physically dominant, imposing player that I've

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Speaker 3: ever seen, and he's the biggest reason why when we

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Speaker 3: have these mythical debates like who's gonna win Jordan Bulls

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Speaker 3: or the Showtime Lakers, Showtime Lakers are the Steph Kat Warriors,

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Speaker 3: Steph Kat Warriors versus Shaq Kobe Lakers. Ultimately it always

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Speaker 3: comes down to for me, is yeah, who's gonna go Shack.

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Speaker 3: That's why I picking oh one versus damn near everybody,

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Speaker 3: because I don't think there's anybody that could have handled

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Speaker 3: a one Shack, point blank period. Having said that, for

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Speaker 3: Shaq to come out and say, you put Tracy McGrady

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Speaker 3: with me instead of Kobe, we're winning those three chips, Shack.

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Speaker 3: Let me take you on memory lane real quick so

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Speaker 3: that we know exactly what we're talking about when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the greatness of Kobe Bryant. You had Team

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Speaker 3: Mack before t Mac in Orlando. His name was Penny Hardaway,

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Speaker 3: Penny Hardaway was a two time first team All NBA player,

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Speaker 3: third in MVP voting when he played with Shaq one

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Speaker 3: year in nineteen ninety six, and you know what happened.

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Speaker 3: Shack got swept out of the playoffs ninety four, ninety five,

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Speaker 3: ninety six, two of those years with what at the

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Speaker 3: time was the Tracy McGrady, the Kobe Bryant, the Dwayne

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Speaker 3: Wade of that league. Moves over to the Lakers, swept

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Speaker 3: out of the playoffs nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Five times before Kobe reached his ascension, you were swept

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Speaker 3: out of the postseason one of those years in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: You had four All Stars on your team getting swept

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Speaker 3: out by the Spurs. It wasn't until Kobe Bryant made

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Speaker 3: the leap from hey, this kid's got a lot of

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Speaker 3: potential to hey, this guy is legitimately a star player.

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Speaker 3: That they got over the hump and now I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: work backwards from that three p in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 3: Shack deservedly Finals MVP dominant in that run. You know,

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Speaker 3: Kobe led the team in scoring ten times in that run.

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Speaker 3: Kobe Shaq led him in scoring eight times. So even

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Speaker 3: though Shack was the guy in the finals, Kobe was

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Speaker 3: the guy all the way up until they got there.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and one, Kobe led the team in scoring

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Speaker 3: eight times. Shaq led the team in scoring eight times.

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Speaker 3: So in two thousand and one they were at a

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Speaker 3: minimum equal right during that playoff run as players. Again,

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Speaker 3: Shack because it goes against the Eastern Conference cooks in

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Speaker 3: the finals. So it's the assumption is this is Shack's team.

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Speaker 3: Shacks the better player.

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Speaker 4: Shack with the.

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Speaker 3: Finals MVP going back to two thousand, the first one,

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Speaker 3: make no bones about it, that was the pinnacle Shack

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Speaker 3: MVP easily the best player in the year of the year,

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Speaker 3: the most dominant season by the most dominant player I

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Speaker 3: think we've seen from Shack. You know in the two

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Speaker 3: thousand Western Conference Finals Game seven, the one where they

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Speaker 3: were down by fifteen, where Phil Jackson says on record,

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Speaker 3: we might as well pack it in.

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Speaker 4: Guys, we're not winning this game. It's over. You know

652
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 4: who led that comeback. It was at Shack. It was Kobe.

653
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 3: In that game seven decided Game seven, Kobe led the

654
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: team in points, rebounds, assists, blocks, had the highest plus

655
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: minus on the team, or of the starters that wasn't Shack,

656
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: that was Kobe. How I could make a case that, Shack,

657
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 3: not only are you not winning three championships with Tracy McGrady.

658
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: You might not even win one. You do not get

659
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: by Portland.

660
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: If Kobe doesn't go super nova in game seven. And

661
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: now I'm gonna bring feelies into it. Elijah put the

662
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: camera on.

663
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: Was my camera's right here? Is right here?

664
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go right here, Shack, you don't want to

665
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: make an enemy out of me. What you said I

666
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: just pointed out was factually inaccurate, but to make it

667
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: worse in an effort to build up your own mythology,

668
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: in an effort to remind the younger generation just how

669
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: good you were. You disrespected the best player you ever

670
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: played with. You disrespected the man who you spoke at

671
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: his funeral because you wanted to make yourself feel better.

672
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: You should be ashamed of yourself, Shack. Don't ever bring

673
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: that nonsense in here again. I can't believe why they

674
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: did that.

675
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: So why I wouldn't look at you.

676
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't look at him and let

677
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: him cook, all right, So we'll be back after this

678
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: break and Kelvin Man, you said a lot, and I

679
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: agree with a lot, but I disagree with quite a

680
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: bit as well. Number one, you got to it too

681
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: late for me when it comes to something that you

682
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: left out when you were breaking down Shack and what

683
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: you were saying, Oh, he had this and inn Penny

684
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: that Phil Jackson. If you want to know how he

685
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: was getting sweat, he didn't have Phil Jackson. You know

686
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: what happened when he got Phil Jackson. He started winning.

687
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: And by he, I mean they as in him and Kobe.

688
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: Now what I mean by that is if you tell

689
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: me in the situation and I have Phil Jackson, prime Shack,

690
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: as we both know that was peak Shack, you know

691
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: ninety nine and like oh three ish, and I also

692
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: have prime Tracy McGrady. Because I believe this is the

693
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: premise we're all operating off of. You're having prime Tracy

694
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: McGrady and you're having prime Shack at the same time,

695
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: then I absolutely believe they win at least one minimum.

696
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: Likely too, I will spot you maybe the three peats

697
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: with Kobe, like that extra three was with Kobe. But

698
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: the idea that everybody, oh he wouldn't got nug with

699
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: he is absolutely asinine because his revision is history. In

700
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: real time, we were saying Kobe or t mack who

701
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: you got, and if you said Kobe, that was fine.

702
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: But if you said t Mac, that was fine, And

703
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: then let's use Kobe Bryant his own words. When he's

704
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: asked Oftens about who is the hardest of guard, he

705
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: talks about Tracy McGrady. He loved talking about how great

706
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: and most talented Tracy McGrady was. He said, he has

707
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: all the skills and all the athleticism. He goes on

708
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: to say he's probably six' ten and he had a

709
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: rare combination of size that made him so hard the

710
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: difficult to. Guard for that little period That tracy McGrady

711
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: Was tracy McGrady because it was no way.

712
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: Near as long As. Kobe. Duh anybody would admit that

713
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: he was, equally if not the better.

714
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: Score factually he was the more efficient, Score he was

715
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: the more, versatile and that he was bigger at that.

716
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: Time kobe became a little bit more versatile as he got,

717
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: older and you, know more than twenty four version posting fade,

718
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: away but t mac had that a little earlier than.

719
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Him size post you mid range kind of from operating

720
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: from the. Elbow kobe continued to get that a little bit,

721
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: later and, again he was a much better defender than T.

722
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: Mac he, Wasn't, kobe give you, that but he was much.

723
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: Better And i'm using Again Kobe bryant's own words talking

724
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: about how he was a much better defender than people

725
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: give him credit, for and how he could play multiple positions.

726
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Defensively these Are kobe's words talking About. Tamman Kobe ryan

727
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: gets so, Excited god blessed dead talking about T mac

728
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: because he was a. Problem AND i think we forget

729
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: the three four year period and then we'll, say, well

730
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: he didn't get out of the first, round he didn't do.

731
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: That.

732
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: Well he was supposed to be playing With Grant hill

733
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: And Tim dunk And tim duncan you beat me to?

734
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: It but that did ended up not. Happening so then,

735
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: fine me And Grant hill will get. Busy it's good. Enough,

736
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: well then Grey hill gets the, injuries so he's by

737
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: himself and he's making do what he. Could and we

738
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: saw What kobe did when he didn't have. Anybody what

739
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: did he? Do? Nothing And i'm not blaming him because you,

740
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Know i'm wise enough to know nobody does anything without.

741
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Anybody so the best few years of T mac to

742
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: me is not that much Or kobe isn't that much

743
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: superior than his best year is versus T. Mac and

744
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: so the idea that the emphasis on Peak shack with

745
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: that T mac wouldn't win, one it's crazy to. Me.

746
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: NOW i think the. Difference kobe was, maniacal no doubt about.

747
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: It kobe would literally Punch shack if you. Like he

748
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: was that crazed about. It AND i absolutely believe he's

749
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: the reason WHY i say they made that the difference

750
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: between winning one and two versus, Three i'll give you.

751
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 4: THAT i can see.

752
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: THAT i think that's what Made kobe, great BECAUSE i

753
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: think T mac was more naturally, gifted As kobe hasn't,

754
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: Mentioned BUT i Think kobe's maniacal approach and that extra

755
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: little bit he would get out of even A shack

756
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: by if it's, me you, know confronting him by if

757
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: it's me getting into it with, him if it's me

758
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of poking him in problem to get.

759
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 4: BETTER i think that's the differentiator that gets you THREE

760
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: a THREE.

761
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: P And i'm okay with, That AND i absolutely Believe

762
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: kobe is the better player in the totality. Careers but

763
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: the act like that three four year window when it

764
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: was Ooh KOBE T i'm gonna Go kobe, okay, okay

765
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Or i'm gonna go T. Mac that wasn't asidnin or

766
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: crazy four handful of. Years and if you're giving me

767
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: that guy With peek Insane shack And Phil jackson and

768
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: the surrounding, PIECES i don't see how they don't get

769
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: one baby.

770
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: Likely to do you, know entirely too much ball to

771
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: make a comment like. That please tell me just with the,

772
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: comparison BECAUSE i REMEMBER i was LIVING i know you

773
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: were living at there.

774
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 4: Too, Huh KOBE R T, Mac kobe R T. Mac

775
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: you know what other debates we used to.

776
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 3: Have like That melo or Lebron Chris paul Or Darren,

777
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: williams which now that we get years removed from it

778
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: and we see the bigger, picture there's no debate between those.

779
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: Guys it's not close at all between those three. Players,

780
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: Okay i'm gonna let you go BECAUSE i got my.

781
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Red here's the other.

782
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: One tracey, McGrady you mentioned famously never got out of

783
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: the first round ever until he was a, benchwarmer never

784
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: got off the pine In San, antonio and he almost

785
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 3: snuck his way to a chip until on to the

786
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: heel stopped. Him you know why he never got out

787
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: of the first. Round why that Because tracy McGrady could

788
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: not close the. Door, Famously Rod parker will tell. You

789
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: in a series against The, Pistons tracy McGrady says to the, reporters,

790
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: Man i'm just glad that we got out of the first,

791
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: round you, know could we up three to?

792
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: One and feeling real good about.

793
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: Himself he actually thought they didn't realize it was best the,

794
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: seven not best of, five and they prombably lost the.

795
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: Series right that is like beyond Hilarious kobe from two

796
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: thousand to two thousand and. Four so that was all

797
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: four of their final runs and another year where they

798
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: got think bouncing the second round led The lakers in

799
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: fourth quarter scoring because, he Unlike shack and unlike.

800
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: T, mac could close the. Door he was capable of

801
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 3: slamming it. Shut and here's the last. Reason tracy. McGrady,

802
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 3: AGAIN i don't want to Disrespect tracy McGrady because he's

803
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: kind of like a.

804
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: Collateral damage in this whole. THING i think it's happens

805
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 4: me and you Argue lebron and step And steph looks

806
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: like nothing Or. Lebron this is So tracy McGrady for

807
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: all of his own offensive, gifts that he was tremendous

808
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: during that entire.

809
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: Run if we're Only county from two thousand to two

810
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: thousand and, four because that's when it Was Pete, shack

811
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: you know That kobe Was First Team All defense two,

812
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: thousand two thousand and, three two thousand and, Four Second

813
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: Team All defense two thousand, one two thousand and. Two

814
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: so every year during that, Stretch kobe was one of

815
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: the ten, best if not the five best defenders in.

816
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: Basketball tracey McGrady was never an all defensive. Player that's

817
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: what separates really good from. Great that's what separates a

818
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: top twenty, player a top thirty, player from a top ten,

819
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: player a top five.

820
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: Player you know WHY i can assert that extra little

821
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: bit of energy to be that rank that high BECAUSE

822
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: i Have, shaq When i'm have my, best second best

823
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: player is the fact that you AND i can't even name.

824
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: Him THEN i have to do.

825
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: More it's the reason, why and you've seen. It When

826
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: lebron had teams where he was he had to. EXERT

827
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: i have to do it, all So i'm going to

828
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: be maybe not the best DEFENDER i could be when

829
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: he was with the heat AND i had other players

830
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: WHERE i went to Freak lebron is insane defensively BECAUSE

831
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: i have help AND i can take a player too

832
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: often locked. Down Derrick rose to the tune and we

833
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: didn't never think we See Derreck rose get locked. Out

834
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: And i'll never say T mac would be the exact

835
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: defender As kobe at. All but What i'm saying is

836
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: when you have to do it, all it's a little.

837
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: Harder WHEN i KNOW i got big fella down there

838
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: AND i can just dump it down to a few

839
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: players in a row and he's about to Eat Bubba

840
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: ko chicken, style then we got something, cooking no pun.

841
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Intended so, AGAIN i Think kobe is the better. Player

842
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: they had the better, career without a. Doubt but to

843
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: think that it's crazy that T mac And shaq couldn't

844
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: have got, one that's crazy because it's, like do you

845
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 1: not remember What shaq? Was AND i think it's crazy

846
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: to remember not what T mac. Was, now if you're,

847
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: saying who DO i want for a fifteen year. Period

848
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: give me, shock give Me kobe that you know that.

849
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: Iteration but they couldn't get. ONE i think that's. Crazy

850
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: eight seven seven ninety Nine On, fox what do you

851
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: Say Team mack couldn't have got? One With Shaq Shack

852
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: sack three to? It jack said. THREE i don't agree With.

853
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: SHAQ i don't think you get. Three one to TWO

854
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 1: i think is absolutely, possible one thousand percent.

855
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: ONE i just think.

856
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: THERE i think those two would have been too, dynamic

857
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: AND i think two would have been likely because he

858
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: was the best scorer in the league's at that. Time wildly,

859
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: disrespectful no disrespect would have been. Fine SAID i think.

860
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: Three shack disrespected, It but That's shack bigg en up In.

861
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: SHACK i MEAN i could have did it with just about.

862
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: It as long as you were An all star, WING

863
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: i could have won, week even though history says that's not.

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Speaker 4: Here all, right so we've been keeping up a little

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Speaker 4: bit with Where Rob parker. Is it's hard not.

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Speaker 1: To, yeah, well he'll tell you exactly where he's at it,

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Speaker 4: Everything where is? He now's what's going on with?

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Speaker 4: What for the first time in what has to be?

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Speaker 3: Decades Maybe, Okay Rob parker is currently having dinner with

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Speaker 3: people's own.

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Speaker 1: Age.

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Speaker 4: Only the one other guy and then like six Other. No,

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Speaker 3: No every person in this photograph all looked to be

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Speaker 3: Point Rob parker in this group photo right here has

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Speaker 3: his eyes closed as he's.

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Speaker 1: Smiling and the best part about it. Too they didn't

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Speaker 1: wait to the. Food this is how you know they're not.

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Speaker 1: Millennials they didn't wait to the wonderful food and plates got.

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Speaker 1: There it's all empty, Plates.

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Speaker 3: Alex if you don't believe, ME i promise. You EVERY

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Speaker 3: id is. Sideways there is no vertical id in this

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Speaker 3: a little. While no, WAY i promise.

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Speaker 3: Do Rob parker is wearing a shirt that he mailed

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Speaker 3: to himself for this, photograph AND i read nice Red.

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Speaker 1: Every he's sitting with a nice. Woman there a couple

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Speaker 1: of nice women get, well ONE i can tell us

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Speaker 1: want to have the little odd. Couple he ain't got

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Speaker 1: time for that right. Now when you say SIDEWAYS, id

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Speaker 1: how old are we? Talking you can't say that on the. Air.

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Speaker 4: Eggs you can't that's really. Funny how you at. All

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Speaker 4: at the same, TIME i.

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Speaker 1: Was looking at my memories AND i sent.

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Speaker 4: THIS i just found. This oh can you believe?

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Speaker 1: It can you Believe?

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Speaker 4: YEAH i believe.

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Speaker 1: It robs the twentieth time you've texted. Us, yes all,

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Speaker 1: Right rob with missing all, right so let's let's get into,

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Speaker 1: This ROB. G Steph curry on his brother's, podcast right

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Speaker 1: was it his?

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Speaker 4: Podcast?

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Speaker 3: No this was on the you Know, Speedy, YEAH i don't. Everybody,

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Speaker 3: YEAH i don't. Know, no THAT'S I Show. Speed i'm

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Speaker 3: Not Speed Speed speedy the guy who used to hang

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Speaker 3: out WITH Dj.

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Speaker 4: Kelly. Oh, YEAH i don't know what his podcast is Called.

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Speaker 3: Speedy it might, be But Steph curry was a guest

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Speaker 3: in the latest, episode And speedy Asked, steph, hey, MAN

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Speaker 3: i know that you're making about seventy, million like fifty

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Speaker 3: million dollars a, season but do you feel like you are?

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Speaker 4: Underpaid here's what you.

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Speaker 8: Said the idea that we can't participate in equity while

965
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Speaker 8: we're playing is a part of WHY i would, say,

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Speaker 8: yes we are, underpaid because you want to be able

967
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Speaker 8: to participate in that in that. RISE i know we're

968
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Speaker 8: blessed to you, know be in a position where we're

969
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 8: playing basketball for a, living and these are the type

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Speaker 8: of checks that people are. Earning AND i think it's

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Speaker 8: all deserved because it's it's a special, commodity it's a

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Speaker 8: special industry that probably won't go anywhere because that.

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Speaker 4: Entertainment he was.

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Speaker 8: There but, YEAH i feel, like hopefully sooner than later

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Speaker 8: those rules change a little bit so that players can

976
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Speaker 8: participate more in the upside of team, equity the league

977
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Speaker 8: evaluations and all that type, stuff just because WE i

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Speaker 8: think we.

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Speaker 1: Deserve All, right it's three sixty With. SPEEDY i looked

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Speaker 1: that up. SHOUTING i don't, know he just appeared the

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Speaker 1: last handful of. Years you, know he's like gets all these,

982
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Speaker 1: interviews so shout out to. Him but, yeah so three

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Speaker 1: sixty With speedy is the. POD a couple of THINGS

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Speaker 1: i want to jump in here real. Quick Rob number,

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Speaker 1: ONE i absolutely agree THAT nba players could have an

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Speaker 1: argument for saying we get, more we deserve. More AND

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Speaker 1: i did a little digging in as far as some

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Speaker 1: research into into numbers and things like. That so let's

989
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Speaker 1: look at let's look at something like, this so we

990
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Speaker 1: know they have a cap, league so these guys aren't

991
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: going to be making the money that others could in

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Speaker 1: and other.

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Speaker 4: Sports you look at, soccer which is gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be a good.

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Speaker 4: Comparison those guys are making h undreds of millions of dollars.

996
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: Annually we know.

997
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: That it's you, see seems they're paying one hundred million

998
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: dollars in it for the right to sign them to

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Speaker 3: one hundred, million.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly and just to get.

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Speaker 1: Them so they're getting one hundred two hundred million dollars

1002
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Speaker 1: annually because it truly is a free market. There so it's, just,

1003
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Speaker 1: hey whatever the guy, wants he's worth. It you believe you.

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Speaker 4: Want to pay, it you pay.

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Speaker 1: It and when you start crunching numbers with the average

1006
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Speaker 1: the revenue in THE, nba and you start to look

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Speaker 1: at the worth of the. PLAYERS nba teams generally rough

1008
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: generate roughly two hundred four hundred million dollars, annually so

1009
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: you would argue the lead players are worth sixty to

1010
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million dollars. Annually somebody like A

1011
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: lebron somebody like A Michael jordan's, prime A Kobe, bryant

1012
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: A Steph. Curry these guys are making forty they're making fifty,

1013
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: now But Steph curry twenty fourteen to about, now he

1014
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Speaker 1: could have been making a buck twenty, buck twenty five

1015
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: every year Rob Gen and that's not crazy when you

1016
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Speaker 1: talk about what he's worth from just publicity, standpoint what

1017
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: he's bringing in the inside the arena you're looking At,

1018
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: LEBRON i don't even think what he's been worth since

1019
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: about two thousands really came in the, league as he

1020
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: came in with so much. Fanfair steph had had to

1021
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: work his way up to. It lebron came, in so

1022
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Speaker 1: they absolutely have been not making the worth in that. Regard,

1023
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Speaker 1: now that is WHY i think he wants then, equity

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Speaker 1: you get WHAT i. Mean so IF i can't get

1025
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Speaker 1: because we have a cap, league the MONEY i Believe i'm,

1026
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: worth then at least let me get a buy in

1027
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Speaker 1: and get some of the equity of the. Teams, NOW

1028
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: i think that becomes challenging when you start to have

1029
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: guys have part ownership of leagues and you're an, owner

1030
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: but then you go to this. Team how does that?

1031
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: Work do you get a part ownership of The? Warriors

1032
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: but what IF i trade you to The? Hornets are

1033
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: you still allone there's a carry to another, team do

1034
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Speaker 1: you do you lose. That you gotta sell it when you,

1035
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Lead so then to me can get a little tricky

1036
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: when you start talking about. That but, absolutely just on

1037
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: the principle OF nba players deserving, MORE i always wonder

1038
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: what it would be like without a. Cap can can

1039
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: Can lebron have signed a seven hundred and something billion

1040
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: dollar million dollar deal Like Juan, soto you, know because

1041
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: he had been worth it last Point one player like

1042
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: that actually changes your franchise more than a baseball.

1043
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 4: Player The mets might not even make the.

1044
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Speaker 1: Postseason, facts you get A lebron in his, prime you

1045
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: get A stephan ther, prime you get A kobe And

1046
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Mike jordan is shock like, That, well you might be

1047
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: for the next eight years in and out the, finals

1048
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: win a couple when you get that magnitude of a,

1049
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: Guy so then they're really worth it what they.

1050
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: BRING i understand the point that you're, making and it

1051
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: does make.

1052
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: SENSE i just feel Like steph needs to be a

1053
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: little more self aware when he says something like this publicly.

1054
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: About, himself about Him how about the fact That.

1055
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: Steph when his neck contract is up because he signed

1056
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: through this season and next, season he will have been

1057
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: the highest paid player in THE nba for ten straight.

1058
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: Years Steph curry next season coming up and the following

1059
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: season twenty six twenty seven will make one hundred and

1060
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 3: twenty two million dollars over two. YEARS i understand, Saying,

1061
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: hey if you just look at what the valuation is

1062
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: with The warriors Since i've been, there and how much

1063
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: is triple, quadrupled tenfold whatever the number, is that he

1064
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: is if no one else responsible for eighty percent of, that,

1065
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: Right like he is that? Great he doesn't mean that

1066
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: much to that franchise and to the league as a.

1067
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: Whole but it's not like you're not being well. Compensated

1068
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: it's not like you, are you, know nickel and, diming

1069
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 3: struggling your way through on a day to day. Basis

1070
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: it's not like you don't live in a ridiculous mansion

1071
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: and you probably got three more of them.

1072
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 4: That you've never even seen. Before so disappointing. You and

1073
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 4: here's the last.

1074
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: Thing If steph really feels that, way and of course he,

1075
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 3: does he said it on the, podcast but On, wax.

1076
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: Why can't you tall your own?

1077
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: League if you are the product that everybody cares about

1078
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 3: that you're the only reason why The warriors have seen

1079
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: their value shoot up like, this that you're the reason

1080
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: why millions of people tune into THE. Nba then what's

1081
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: to stop you from being like What Brianna stewart did, Is,

1082
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: hey we're gonna launch unrivaled a three three. League it's

1083
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: only gonna have you, know fifteen players on, it but

1084
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 3: everyone's gonna make five times what they make in the

1085
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 3: w because we're paying you for what you're legitimately, worth

1086
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: not what the league thinks you're. Worth why can't Actually

1087
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: Maverick carter's doing. This Maverick carter is working with The

1088
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: saudi's right, NOW i, believe to try to launch a

1089
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: new basketball. League, NOW i don't think that's ever gonna

1090
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 3: be with THE, nba but he's. Trying If Steph curry

1091
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: really feels, undervalued, underappreciated then maybe HIM Kd Lebron. James

1092
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: pick your favorite older events player who's already had THEIR nba,

1093
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: Success why don't they launch their own league and do?

1094
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: It because the reality, Is, STEPH i hate to break

1095
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: it to, You you're not really worth that much.

1096
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: MONEY i couldn't disagree with you, anymore of course you.

1097
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: Can first of, All Steph curry asking ath is showing right.

1098
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: Now and you know what's, Funny i'm glad you wrote.

1099
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: That i'm glad you said that BECAUSE i just wrote

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00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: Down Rob g's thinking too. Small, okay you're thinking too

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00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: company man is right?

1102
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: Now so aw you?

1103
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: Are you are in that? Mean you don't even you

1104
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: and you got the wrong shirt on.

1105
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 4: Today yesterday was the day you were supposed to think like.

1106
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: That AND i say that because, ultimately if you're just

1107
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: gonna do the well you make, enough then you're never

1108
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: gonna make more because they're always gonna pacify you and

1109
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: whatever the thing, is and you being on this side,

1110
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: today you've been. Great who knows where you can go

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00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: in the next. Year two years might be The ROB

1112
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Speaker 1: g and so and so show And alex by the,

1113
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Speaker 1: way We've ROB g And alex. Show then they're gonna, say,

1114
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: well this is what you were making on that, side

1115
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna give you a little bump and he

1116
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna say that's, better, right and you're gonna, go, well

1117
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: G golli, SHUCKS i Guess i'll, say, yes you're the

1118
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: PERSON i got a got a homie who ticked me

1119
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: and my wife off because you know her in her

1120
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: legal space and contracts and all. That one day told

1121
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: us he has he's been to the four letter, place

1122
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: he's been on sports centers and. All you know that

1123
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: he never negotiated a contract like they're basically whatever they offered. Him,

1124
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: yes he was just because it's so would so happy

1125
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: to you, know get it. Right AND i almost lost

1126
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: my mind because you're worth. More companies know that, oftentimes

1127
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: and you fight for it and y'all battle it out

1128
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: and it is no hard feelings because business is business is, business.

1129
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: And you meet.

1130
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: Somewhere that's why we have an, agent by the, way

1131
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: and that's why you have an agent to be the

1132
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: ugly person or got to be the go. Between and

1133
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: so What Steph curry is saying Is i'm fully aware

1134
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: The warriors were just an organization in THE nba UNTIL

1135
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: i got. Hot and, no obviously the team around, me

1136
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: they did a great job building, It But i'm the

1137
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: centerpiece the league as a. Whole what the heck would

1138
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: they have done Without lebron over the last twenty years

1139
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: because the magic goals and Obviously Kobe's, kobe But lebron

1140
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: has been because he's whether you hate him or love,

1141
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: him he's been the talk of everybody has an opinion

1142
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,479
Speaker 1: That lebron, yep he's been that what they've done Without,

1143
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: Kobe i'm not making it just A Lebron Kobe. Steph

1144
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: that's Why jordan finally got thirty three million in the

1145
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: last year or two in nineteen ninety. EIGHT i don't

1146
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: even know what thirty three million is like, now because

1147
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: teammate was making like two. Exactly, yeah because they finally

1148
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: said all we got to Play jordan for them to back.

1149
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 4: End so, absolutely to, me you go and get what you're.

1150
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: Worth you go and fight for.

1151
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: That and from time to time you have to throw

1152
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: out a crazy idea and you got to negotiate, it

1153
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: and you got to bring up, stuff and they have

1154
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: the right to say no THE, nba and to your,

1155
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 1: point he has a right to try to figure out something.

1156
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: Else but never should you not ever advocate for. Yourself

1157
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: and that's Why i'm blown away with people who you

1158
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: cannot like THE. WNBA i get, That and it's not

1159
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: the most appealing sport for, some so it's not for.

1160
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: Everybody it's not for, everybody but the idea THAT i

1161
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: see two point billion dollars is coming in. THAT i

1162
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: see you guys are about to. Build you trying to

1163
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: build five new team franchises in the next handful of.

1164
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Years and people are paying a quarter of a billion

1165
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: dollars just to get in the. Door, exactly they're paying

1166
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and FIFTY mils just to get a. Franchise

1167
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: AND i see we've gone up forty percent. APPAREL i

1168
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: see all, this the growth of viewership and all the,

1169
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: attendance everything's going. Up you absolutely double back and, say,

1170
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: hey where are we. At that's why it's called. Negotiations

1171
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: you ain't got to do, it AND i don't have to,

1172
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: play but we, negotiate, Right SO i don't get why.

1173
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: You BECAUSE i Think steph needs to realize that he

1174
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: would not Be Steph curry without THE. Nba and this

1175
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: is something That rob and Before Rob rest in, Peace Christ,

1176
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: mussard he's not with us.

1177
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: Anymore is a man?

1178
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Retired he is.

1179
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: Retired but they both said and AND i didn't think

1180
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 3: about it till they had said, It so credit to.

1181
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: Them as great as all of these guys, Are lebron is,

1182
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: Great steph is, Great katie's, great before, That kobe was,

1183
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 3: great even though on Matt As Shaq shack was, great,

1184
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 3: right if they didn't have a media rights deal or

1185
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: THE tv or somebody to prop them up and show

1186
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 3: the entertainment. Factor here's just a bunch of dudes hooping

1187
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: at An La. Fitness now they're doing a lot crazier

1188
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: stuff than the guys That elephantis can. Do but if

1189
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: there's nobody to give you the platform to showcase, yourself

1190
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't really. Matter And Steph curry wasn't always all

1191
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: Capped Steph. Curry he needed THE nba AND espn AND

1192
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 3: tnt And Fox, Sports Rob parker And Kelvin washington to

1193
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: talk about, him to showcase him and, say, hey he's,

1194
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: great or he's got, great he, sucks he's, awesome whatever it.

1195
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: Is and that's what helped propel him to earn forty

1196
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: fifties now sixty million dollars a. Season so does he

1197
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: have to pay some of that back because he didn't

1198
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: know have that platform.

1199
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: Before your platform is useless without a product or a.

1200
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: SERVICE i am the amazing product and or service that

1201
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: allows your platform to be. Successful and what we are

1202
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: also able to do is renegotiate from time to, time

1203
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: and to, me that's all he's. Doing he, says, hey

1204
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: let's get back to the table and let's have some,

1205
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: conversations AND i think we should be able to do.

1206
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: This then we should be able.

1207
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: That and THE nba can say no and, then but

1208
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: that's why we have cbas and conversations and meetings and

1209
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: you build relationships With Adam silver or you can call

1210
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: him and just SAY i was thinking in what do you?

1211
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: Think and he can say. No but that's what it's.

1212
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: For the idea is simply that be grateful THAT i

1213
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: have this thing and you're a part of. It, NO

1214
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: i built, THAT i helped build the. Thing it's a

1215
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: partnership you can have a. Platfor you know how many

1216
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: networks start and die because they didn't have the great,

1217
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: shows all of. Them it's the reason why they were

1218
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: playing the friends actors a million dollars an episode because without,

1219
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: us your network is your, network but you ain't drawing

1220
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: these viewers that get you the sponsorship in these, endorsements

1221
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: in these.

1222
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: Commercials so pay us.

1223
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: A million dollars an, episode all of, us by the,

1224
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: way not one, Person because of our, talent our show

1225
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: what we brought to the. Table all, right good conversation.

1226
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Speaker 1: There what's maybe if you want to hop in eight,

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Speaker 1: seven seven ninety nine On. Fox otherwise we Got Tim

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Speaker 1: parker Of Spectrum news. One we'll talk Some Rams camp

1229
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: he was there as, well and also can talk a

1230
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: little bit of the With bronni what he was witnessing

1231
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: Covering brownie as. Well we'll have that With Timothy, Parker

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Speaker 1: Spectrum news, One Spectrum sports that in just a. Bit

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