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Speaker 1: The buck Sexton Show begins. Analyst. Remember he's a great guy.

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Speaker 1: Seton No. I think this is funny. It's a joke

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Speaker 1: to you, Emory, one small thing. Yeah, when you bring

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Speaker 1: me out, can you introduce me as Joker. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the buck Sexton Show. I am not Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Mister Sexton is away. I believe he's still in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: But my name is Chadwick Moore, and I will be

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Speaker 1: filling in for today's program. Lots to talk about. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you just heard a stippet of the trailer for the

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Speaker 1: Joker movie just called Joker, not the Joker making big

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Speaker 1: ripples in the culture war. It's getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the reaction to this movie. I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: really interested in how it's speaking to people, how people

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Speaker 1: are really really intrigued by the themes in the movie.

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Speaker 1: And and we're going to talk about that. We're going

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Speaker 1: to discuss that. Don't worry no spoilers, I promise, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to discuss how why people I think are

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Speaker 1: so intrigued by Joker. We also have coming up later

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Speaker 1: in the show Ambassador Rick Grennell, our ambassador to Germany,

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Speaker 1: And we also have later on Spectator contributing editor Daniel McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: about impeachment, what we can expect, why it's happening, how

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Speaker 1: it compares to both Bill Clinton and Nixon, who of

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Speaker 1: we also have Andy No joining, US journalist Andy No

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Speaker 1: who is a specialist on political violence, hate crimes and

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Speaker 1: the such. But for now, let's talk about this movie.

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Speaker 1: Ninety three point five million dollars opening weekend. That is

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Speaker 1: domestic um domestic box office opening. Um uh, it's getting

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Speaker 1: It's nothing but but nice restaurants and low crime and

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Speaker 1: peeked in the second theater that was that was showing

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Speaker 1: thank for that. Headlines around this movie have read things

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Speaker 1: such as fears of in cell mass shooter at Joker

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Speaker 1: opening weekend put cops across the country on high alert

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Speaker 1: possible mass shootings by in cells at Joker screenings. Joker

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Speaker 1: movie sparks legitimate fears over insull terrorism at movie screenings.

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Speaker 1: Joker movie prompts mass shooting threats at movie theaters. And

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Speaker 1: I could go on, does it sound like the media

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Speaker 1: Neither the fictional character Joker nor the film is an

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Speaker 1: But CNN had a big piece that said Joker validates

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Speaker 1: So it's a character study and it's terrifying. It's it

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Speaker 1: to focus on language. So he just banned the term

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Speaker 1: we have Andy. No, Andy know an intrepid journalist, a

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Speaker 1: by somebody who threw a piece of pavement stone at

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Speaker 1: him and broke his nose. You know, the videos of

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Speaker 1: suspect happens to be a young black man. More recently,

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Speaker 1: just last week, there were five youths who were caught

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Speaker 1: smashing out the window of a synagogue during Jewish holiday

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Speaker 1: and these five years happened to be black. And then

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Speaker 1: also this month, a man named alashet Allah he pled

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Speaker 1: guilty to a hate crime assault after he saw two

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Speaker 1: women kissing in Queens. So hate crimes are real. I'm

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Speaker 1: constantly telling people that, but it's it seems like if

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Speaker 1: they don't if these hate crimes can't be politically exploited,

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Speaker 1: the media doesn't want to pay attention to them, right absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and with the media when they believe it so readily,

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Speaker 1: like with the young girl in with the dreadlocks and

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Speaker 1: with Jesse Smollett there there, it's childlike of them any adult.

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Speaker 1: As soon as I heard about the as soon as

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Speaker 1: are about Jesse the two paragraphs into the story, I said,

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Speaker 1: this is fake. When I heard about the girl in

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Speaker 1: Washington outside DC, I was like that, yeah, that didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: The media is also they're they're so childlike in their

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Speaker 1: in their thinking and believes they've they've This seems like

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Speaker 1: something that could happen to them and uh, And I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you brought up the the the actual hate crimes

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Speaker 1: which we were just we were just discussing, and I wonder,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, do you believe that should we have hate

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Speaker 1: hate crime legislation? Do you think that this is a

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Speaker 1: good thing or is it just a vehicle to be uh,

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Speaker 1: to be exploited and that that further drives people apart.

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Speaker 1: Are you for hate crime legislation or does it not

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Speaker 1: really serve a purpose? I think the criticisms against hate

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Speaker 1: crime laws have marriage and are valid, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's time for the broader public to start having serious

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Speaker 1: conversations about what purpose hate crime laws serve. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you are committing a criminal act against somebody like

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Speaker 1: I wonder what point does it serve for the crime

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Speaker 1: to be considered more serious that the motivation was based

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Speaker 1: on a bias against the protective class. I think there

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Speaker 1: are a number of issues that arise as a results

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Speaker 1: of that, But I this is an area that I

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Speaker 1: don't in terms of the area of public policy around

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Speaker 1: the legislation. I need to I don't know enough about

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Speaker 1: it to really comment. Beyond that well, and beyond the

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Speaker 1: spate of Jewish anti Jewish crimes we see in New York.

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Speaker 1: The only other hate crime we see it tends to

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Speaker 1: be against seems to be political crimes, political affiliations, not

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Speaker 1: protected class. But it sends to be lefties attacking conservatives,

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Speaker 1: Trump supporters, moderates such as what happened to you in Portland.

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Speaker 1: And we're all very grateful that you seem to be

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Speaker 1: doing much better and that you survived that, and thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me on. But I've been so mad this morning and

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Speaker 1: so upset about this news that we are abandoning our

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Speaker 1: Kurdish allies in the Middle East. These are allies of

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Speaker 1: ours that American soldiers are still continuing to fight alongside.

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Speaker 1: All we did was armed them, and they fought for America.

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Speaker 1: And right now we're just saying we're just going to

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Speaker 1: leave them and abandon them. And to everyone in the

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Speaker 1: White House and every Republican who was mad that President

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Speaker 1: Obama pulled out of Iraq, you feckless, unpatriotic cowards cannot

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Speaker 1: believe this is where we're at. Simplot a fly, and

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe this is what what message is this

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Speaker 1: sending to our allies who have fought alongside us, into

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Speaker 1: our American troops who have fought and died for this

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Speaker 1: And I cannot believe I'm waking up in the morning

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Speaker 1: seeing this kind of news. And I don't care that

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Speaker 1: he ran on pulling troops out. There's a whole different

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Speaker 1: thing we leave this. This is a great day for isoism,

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Speaker 1: is a great day for a thought, and shame on

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Speaker 1: everyone who's supporting this. And I'm sorry this is not

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Speaker 1: the topic, but I just wouldn't come out here today

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Speaker 1: and not say this, no why it's very important. Why

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Speaker 1: do you think this administration, the society could do it

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Speaker 1: if he ran on isolationism, which again I think is

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Speaker 1: backcrop in saying for a whole variety of reasons. But

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Speaker 1: I also I think it might be a wag the

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Speaker 1: dog situation. I think from the second way. But I

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Speaker 1: cannot go and say, you support our troops. Have they

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Speaker 1: fought and died for this mission? But they know he's

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Speaker 1: never been He's never He can say it all he

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Speaker 1: wants to, but we've watched, didn't you know? When people

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Speaker 1: are supporting the if you know, when they're looking out

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Speaker 1: from this guy has not been doing that. That was

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Speaker 1: Megan McCain on the View. She's a big old peace nick,

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Speaker 1: you know, and as was her father, and she's real

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Speaker 1: mad about about President Trump pulling fifty troops out of Syria.

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Speaker 1: M she's very very upset. The ladies at the View

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Speaker 1: are very very upset. I don't know. If men can't

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Speaker 1: have an opinion on abortion because they don't have that equipment,

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Speaker 1: maybe women can't have an opinion on war because they

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Speaker 1: can't get drafted. Um. Megan McCain is really really mad. Uh,

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Speaker 1: lots of people are really really mad about this. How

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Speaker 1: dare Trump? He I don't care that he ran on

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Speaker 1: pulling us out of Syria. I don't care isolationism. That's

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Speaker 1: bat poop crazy. She said, well, this is what he

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Speaker 1: ran on. The swamp creatures are mad. Lindsay Graham's mad,

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley's mad, Mitch McConnell, Liz Cheney, Pat robertson AOC

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Speaker 1: recently came out as a big fan of war. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anyone is as mad as share share one

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Speaker 1: of Twitter's great gifts. She usually mad about it. She's

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Speaker 1: been all over Twitter about this, and she speaks in hieroglyphics,

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Speaker 1: so bear with me. She says, few will know, less

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Speaker 1: will care about our allies who stood shoulder to shoulder

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Speaker 1: with American flag emoji soldiers and saved their lives exclamation

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Speaker 1: Aragodon wants them coffin emoji. He four leaf clover emoji

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Speaker 1: out and is getting help. So thank god we listened

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Speaker 1: to Hollywood. Thank god we listened to Megan McCain. These

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Speaker 1: people really know what they're talking about. Um, they don't

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Speaker 1: like they want war. If you remember the only time

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Speaker 1: I remember the media being nice to Trump, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you recall this was April twenty seventeen when

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Speaker 1: there's allegedly a gas attack in Syria and he bombed

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Speaker 1: an army base. Do you I remember the media being

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Speaker 1: The media was thrilled, they wanted the explosions. They were

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Speaker 1: nice to him. Great move, perfect job, and his base

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Speaker 1: was furious. He had just been inaugurated and they said, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: this is not what we elected. Let's play another clip

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Speaker 1: of good. Clip four. This is a don Lemon so,

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Speaker 1: the president is a pretty strange strategy in the face

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Speaker 1: of the impeachment investigation. He's upsetting his own defenders with

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Speaker 1: abrupt decisions like pulling US troops out of northern Syria,

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Speaker 1: and Republicans are up in arms. Let's bring it out.

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Speaker 1: James Clapper, the former Director of National Intelligence. We always

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Speaker 1: love having you on. Thank you, sir, good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Republican backlash. So the President's decision was swift, Okay. The

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Speaker 1: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says it would only benefit Russia

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Speaker 1: around and the Assad regime sooner. Graham called Trump's decision

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Speaker 1: shortsighted and irresponsible. Former UN Ambassador Nikki Hailey says it

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Speaker 1: leaves us allies to die. Congresswoman Liz Cheney called it

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Speaker 1: an an undeserved gift to the Urdwan regime. Why does

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Speaker 1: this decision have even the President's supporters up in arms? Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: don I was quite taken a back by this rare

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Speaker 1: criticism on the part of prominent Republicans, And I think

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Speaker 1: the reason is because taking this action is really egregious.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the whole point of our aligning with

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Speaker 1: the Kurds is to fight was to fight Isis, which

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Speaker 1: is not to disagree with the president is not defeated,

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Speaker 1: and our small presence there to train and assist the

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Speaker 1: Kurds also served as a bulwark against the Turks taking

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Speaker 1: them on. Well, now we're going to give free rein

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Speaker 1: to the to the Turks who consider all Kurds as terrorists,

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Speaker 1: even though the Kurds are many political stripes. The PKKPE

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Speaker 1: specifically is regarded by the Turks as a terrorist group,

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Speaker 1: but they just like to consider all all Kurds as terrorists. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, the President likes to claim that we are

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Speaker 1: more respected now than ever. Well, on the contrary, all

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Speaker 1: this is going to do is cause people to question

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Speaker 1: our word and not trust us. And they here are

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Speaker 1: the Kurds who did everything we asked them to do.

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Speaker 1: They did all the heavy lifting, took thousands of casualties, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically at rbhest and this is what we're

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Speaker 1: doing to him. So it's it's terrible, and I hope

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Speaker 1: this is a harbinger of things to come as terms

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Speaker 1: of Republicans speaking out. That was Don Lemon interviewing h.

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Speaker 1: James clapper Um two more peace Knicks. Everyone seems to

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Speaker 1: forget that Turkey's a NATO member, right and U President

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Speaker 1: Trump had some interesting things to say. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: all of this. A lot of this cleared up with

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Speaker 1: Ambassador Grinnell, who's going to be joining us shortly, and

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Speaker 1: to to figure out the why are they so angry?

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Speaker 1: And do we have to worry about Turkey doing something

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Speaker 1: doing what slaughtering all the Kurds? Do they even know

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Speaker 1: what they're angry about? Or is this just what we've

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Speaker 1: come to expect Anything Trump does is bad? Were they

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Speaker 1: this mad with the left in the media? This mad

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Speaker 1: when Trump pulled troops out of Iraq? I'm sorry, not Trump,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry when Obama pulled troops out of Iraq. Weren't

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Speaker 1: they happy about that even though things fell to chaos

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't the right time. So fifty troops are

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Speaker 1: gone and apparently at the end of the world, and

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Speaker 1: they seem to think that this is really going to

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Speaker 1: have a major impact on us. They think that's going

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Speaker 1: to bring ISIS back. They would admit the ISIS is defeated.

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Speaker 1: It is defeated. We know that, all right. I would

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Speaker 1: like to welcome my next guests, probably one of the

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Speaker 1: most beloved members of the Trump administration, I would definitely say,

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Speaker 1: Ambassador to Germany, Rick Grinnell, thank you for joining us. Chadwicks,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. All Right, so we've just been

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Speaker 1: We've got a few things to talk about today. But

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Speaker 1: of course in the news is the decision to remove

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Speaker 1: the fifty troops from Syria, and we are seeing immense

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Speaker 1: backlash in the swamp and on the left and in

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Speaker 1: the media, and all of these fears over Turkey and

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Speaker 1: a genocide and abandoning our allies and Kurds. What as

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Speaker 1: someone who works in diplomacy, what should we make of

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Speaker 1: all of this and of the reaction. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that anyone should be surprised that President Trump,

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Speaker 1: who promised in the campaign would really take a hard

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Speaker 1: look at US troops overseas, would try to bring that

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Speaker 1: home and would focus our foreign policy really on making

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Speaker 1: sure that diplomacy and talk were at the forefront, and

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Speaker 1: when we needed to utilize military action or god or

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Speaker 1: try to uh you know, switch the portfolio, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: from the State Department to the Department of Defense, that

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Speaker 1: President Trump would view the decision with the sole focus

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Speaker 1: of doesn't make America safer and would really view our

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Speaker 1: national security through that lens. And so I think when

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Speaker 1: when you have a NATO ally like Turkey who makes

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Speaker 1: it very clear that after us telling them to stay

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Speaker 1: out and push that and we've been pushing back on

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Speaker 1: Turkey for a number of years now to limit their

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Speaker 1: engagement in Syria, even though they're on the border of Syria.

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Speaker 1: We've been very successful in holding the Turks back, but

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Speaker 1: it's now come to a point, after years of of

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Speaker 1: they are moving to act what Donald Trump has a

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Speaker 1: responsibility and his first priority is to American troops that

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Speaker 1: are there, and so we've made it clear that we

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Speaker 1: will react accordingly to this NATO ally, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's being very responsible now. No one should ever confuse

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's focus to protect American troops overseas and to

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Speaker 1: try to work with the NATO ally for years and

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Speaker 1: to push them back as much as he can. But

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Speaker 1: when they make a decision to bend to a neighbor

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Speaker 1: to UH to effect I think, to the border in

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Speaker 1: their view, and we push back on them as much

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Speaker 1: as possible no one should be confused that that is

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Speaker 1: in any way a sign that the US is agreeing

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Speaker 1: with the Turkish policy, the Turkish move and now we

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Speaker 1: will watch accordingly, as the President has said, and we

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Speaker 1: will react when appropriate. But I think that what people

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Speaker 1: have to understand is that this initial reaction from the

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Speaker 1: United States is solely to protect American troops. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they seem so surprised. Well, I suppose this is extremely

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Speaker 1: surprising that a president is following through with a campaign

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Speaker 1: promise and something he's elected to, which is get out

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Speaker 1: of the Middle East, a more nationalistic, diplomacy based foreign policy.

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Speaker 1: But instead we're hearing these sob stories about how we're

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Speaker 1: abandoning our Kurdish allies. It does that even hold a

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Speaker 1: new water. Are the Are we about to see genocide

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Speaker 1: of the Kurds from the Turkish? From the Turkish? We

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Speaker 1: certainly hope not, and I think that we would do

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Speaker 1: everything we can to stop that. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: jumping ahead of what the responsibility is of President Trump

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Speaker 1: when he's faced with a NATO ally's saying enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: We're going to move into the area and across the border.

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Speaker 1: And so President Trump has a responsibility to protect that contrust.

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Speaker 1: But again, I think the Kurds have been great allies

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Speaker 1: to the Americans. We have for years worked with them,

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Speaker 1: and we're very grateful. We have put a lot of blood,

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Speaker 1: sweat and tears into all Syria. We are trying everything

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Speaker 1: we can do to use diplomacy in Syria. But I

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Speaker 1: think that this initial reaction from President Trump is the

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Speaker 1: exact reaction that we need from a president, which is

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Speaker 1: to protect Americans first and watch the situation very closely.

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Speaker 1: That jumping to conclusions that some how this is uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, meaning that the United States is allowing some

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Speaker 1: sort of military action, I think from the Turks. President

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Speaker 1: Trump has made it perfectly clear that that's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen, right, And everyone likes to forget that Turkey

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Speaker 1: is a NATO member they are, They seem to leave

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Speaker 1: that out of their of their reports. Um, well, let's

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Speaker 1: switch gears briefly to you. You just received a post,

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Speaker 1: a special post for an ambo whiween, I'm sorry, an envoy,

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Speaker 1: uh for between Kosovo and Serbia. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: a lot of Americans understand what's going on there today.

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Speaker 1: After the wars of the late nineties, could you just

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Speaker 1: give us a sense of what is happening there? What

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Speaker 1: what what what are you what are you being sent

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Speaker 1: there to accomplish? And what is the current conflict. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think what President Trump thinks is is that there

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Speaker 1: could be an opening here between UH Savo and Serbia

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Speaker 1: and their leaders to begin to really talk through some

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Speaker 1: of the issues that they say. As you probably know,

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Speaker 1: the government of Kosovo has one hundred percent tariff on

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Speaker 1: Serbian products and that is a policy that the United

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Speaker 1: States has tried for a while to get the leadership

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Speaker 1: and Kosovo to to stop doing, to reject these tariffs.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, Serbia has been UH pushing other

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Speaker 1: countries to not recognize Kosovo. They do not recognize Kosovo,

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Speaker 1: and so there is an ongoing issue between the two

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Speaker 1: that you know, is not the conflicts of the past,

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Speaker 1: but I think is not also good for the region.

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Speaker 1: And what the President asked me to do is to

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Speaker 1: test the two parties and to see if they're willing

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Speaker 1: to come to the table and to begin to talk

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Speaker 1: about normalizing the relationship. And there are plenty of issues

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Speaker 1: to deal with. What I would like to focus on

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Speaker 1: and what I think is a real possibility after talking

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Speaker 1: to some of the leaders, is that we have to

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Speaker 1: focus on bringing economic development and jobs and a better

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Speaker 1: economy to the region. And I think one of the reasons,

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Speaker 1: one of the barriers to entry for American businesses and

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Speaker 1: for European businesses is that they feel like this conflict

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Speaker 1: between the two countries is causing enough consternation where they

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Speaker 1: can't move in to U to the And so that's

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Speaker 1: one of the issues that we want to look at,

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Speaker 1: is how can we make some progress and really change

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Speaker 1: the situation so that American businesses and European businesses feel

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Speaker 1: more confident to come into the region. As you know,

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Speaker 1: that would immediately bring about for this region economic development,

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Speaker 1: more jobs, and I think more hope. And that's where

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Speaker 1: we are right now and trying to feel consensus around

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Speaker 1: these issues is let's solve some political issues as much

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Speaker 1: as we can so that economic development can happen. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what the people want. Now you've you've

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Speaker 1: headed up you are heading up an initiative in the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration to decriminalize homosexuality, to work to decriminalize it

727
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Speaker 1: in the nearly seventy nations where it's still criminalized and

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Speaker 1: I believe it's around somewhere between six and eight in

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Speaker 1: which the punishment is death. People hear about this a lot,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure they I'm not sure they actually know

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Speaker 1: what's going on and what your approach would be. Can

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Speaker 1: you can you let us know what what's this about,

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Speaker 1: and how do you plan to accomplish getting homosexuality decriminalized

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Speaker 1: across the globe? Well, certainly it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a big endeavor, and I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 1: happen overnight, and it's going to take a long time.

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Speaker 1: There are seventy one countries that currently criminalize homosexuality, and

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Speaker 1: so I think what we're trying to do is realize

739
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: that we're going to meet seventy one different plans because

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00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: every country is different, and we have a targeted list

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Speaker 1: of countries that have made significant change and movement but

742
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Speaker 1: have not decriminalized it yet. We were making clear to

743
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Speaker 1: our allies and to multi lateral organizations like the UN

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Speaker 1: and others that any country that criminalizes homosexuality is really

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Speaker 1: denying the UN Zone Declaration of Human Rights. And so

746
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: I personally don't think that you can be a member

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00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: of the UN and good standing if you're not upholding

748
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Speaker 1: the UN Declaration of Human Rights. And so what we're

749
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Speaker 1: trying to do is find friends and allies to really

750
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: bring this issue up, use it as leverage, asking that

751
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: we're asking the business community to also recognize that this

752
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: should be one of the criterias that they use in

753
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: their decision making process or getting incredible feedback when we

754
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: focus on the decriminalization. People recognize that this is the

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Speaker 1: first step for many countries and it's a noble step.

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Speaker 1: And so we're getting a lot of support to focus

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Speaker 1: on the decriminalizations. As said, there are six countries right

758
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: now that will kill you for being gay, and that's

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00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: got to end. And I think rational people everywhere agree

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Speaker 1: that we've got to make progress. We've got several really

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Speaker 1: exciting initiatives that I can't go into or trying to

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00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: really work under the radar in many countries, but we

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00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: have incredible support, really great young people who are recognizing

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Speaker 1: what needs to be done and who are working in

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00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: their countries to make them happen. They're working with the courts,

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00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: they're working with politicians, they're working with civil society and

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00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: with businesses, and so we're getting them organized we're giving

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00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: them tools and we're connecting all of them. It's very exciting,

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Speaker 1: and I have to say that the more work that

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Speaker 1: we do in it, the more I realize that across

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Speaker 1: the globe we have an incredible support for this movement,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that we will begin to make some

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Speaker 1: moral progress in the not too distant feature. Well, Ambassador Grennell,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like doing wonderful work. I'm sure the President

775
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: wishes he had twenty of you in diplomatic posts across

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Speaker 1: the world. Thank you so much for joining us, and

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00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: we'll be back right after this. As we defend American values,

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00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: we affirm the right of all people to live in dignity.

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Speaker 1: For this reason, my administration is working with other nations

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Speaker 1: to stop criminalizing of homosexuality, and we stand in solidarity

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Speaker 1: with lg VTQ people who live in countries that punish,

782
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: jail or execute individuals based upon sexual orientation. That was

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Speaker 1: President Trump speaking at the UN General Assembly last month,

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Speaker 1: and that is the UH the initiative that that Ambassador

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Speaker 1: Grinell was just speaking of, and nobody expected Trump to

786
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Speaker 1: to talk about it, and he did, and there you

787
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Speaker 1: have it. He Ambassador Grinell gets the most hate from

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Speaker 1: the alphabet people. And I'm the same, I get the

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00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: most hate from the alphabet people. And it's uh, it

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Speaker 1: was sort of like I was watching a video from

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Speaker 1: a Daily Caller reporter was that the Young Black Leadership

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Speaker 1: Summit at the White House this week and asking them

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Speaker 1: what do people call what kind of names do people call? You?

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Speaker 1: Asking the attendees and who do you get the most

795
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Speaker 1: hate from? And and everyone said, you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: young black people And they said, oh black people, black people.

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00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: I get the most hate from them, the alphabet people.

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Speaker 1: When this decriminalization effort was announced, Out magazine ran a

799
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Speaker 1: headline that said, decriminalize homosexuality is a racist tactic. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they can't give Rick the time of day. They despise him.

801
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: And it's worth talking about the alphabet people because they

802
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: are the most fearsome. They're the most powerful. I think

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Speaker 1: of the of the identity groups, and they're most the

804
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: most effective and the most successful, and they can't be

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Speaker 1: bothered to lift a finger for acknowledging the atrocities committed

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Speaker 1: against lgbt qs. I always love out Trump just throws

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00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: the Q on because it's so awkward, and he doesn't

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00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: know what it means. Nobody knows what it means. And

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00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: in the meantime, they focus all their energy on trying

810
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: to paint President Trump as such a bigot, and these

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00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: controversies pop up everywhere. They're always in the news. The

812
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: alphabet people are constantly saying these things against President Trump.

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Speaker 1: There was during Pride Month this year President Trump banns

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Speaker 1: rainbow flags and being flown outside embassies. Well, that's not

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Speaker 1: what happened. Two embassies out of the what two hundred

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00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: we have requested to fly rainbow flags, and the administration

817
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: said yes, but not on the official flagpole, because only

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00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: the American flag can fly on that flagpole. You can

819
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Speaker 1: hang the flag anywhere else you'd like, not on that flagpole.

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Speaker 1: But even the mainstream media said they were banning the

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Speaker 1: rainbow flag. Not true. There's an upcoming case in the

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Speaker 1: about a transgender workplace discrimination and the Department of Justice

823
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Speaker 1: filed documents with the court to let them know that

824
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Speaker 1: Title ten does not cover sexual orientation or gender identity.

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Speaker 1: If that's just the law there. The Department of Justice

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Speaker 1: is obviously a part of the executive branch. They are

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Speaker 1: forced they are charged with enforcing the law, not making

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Speaker 1: the law, and they're saying, this isn't in the law,

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Speaker 1: so we can't defend. You know, we're saying it's not

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Speaker 1: we're letting you know it's not in the law. And

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Speaker 1: the Alphabet people in the media are saying Trump administration

832
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Speaker 1: battles against anti discrimination. It's you know, they worry. They

833
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: always say, this guy's a tyrant, and so you want

834
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Speaker 1: him to start making laws. Isn't that Congress's job. If

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Speaker 1: you want to see anti LGBTQ element o p discrimination

836
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Speaker 1: in the workplace, would you like to see that written,

837
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Speaker 1: then I think you need to talk to Congress. The

838
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Speaker 1: DJ is just telling you what's what's on the books.

839
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Speaker 1: They have gone off the off the rails. The Alphabet

840
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Speaker 1: people and there are people I know something about. And

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Speaker 1: you know, after gay marriage they had they sold gay

842
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Speaker 1: marriage to the American people as love is love and

843
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: we just want the same rights as you, and we

844
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Speaker 1: just want to be free to love who we want

845
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Speaker 1: to love. It was a very conservative argument. And then

846
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Speaker 1: once that happened, so many of these groups should have disbanded.

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Speaker 1: They had Okay, most Americans thought, all right, that's over. Fine,

848
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Speaker 1: whether you like to gay marriage or not, fine, it's over.

849
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Speaker 1: Now you've got your rights. And where did it go

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Speaker 1: from there? Straight to tyranny? Baked the cake, bigot, It

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Speaker 1: went straight to children which I never thought I would

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Speaker 1: see in my lifetime, the transgender children, the drag queen children,

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Speaker 1: and it's completely There was a study recently that showed

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Speaker 1: that lgbt Q acceptance among millennials was down, and of

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Speaker 1: course the media was saying, well, this is just a

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Speaker 1: product of Trump's America. What else do you expect? This

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Speaker 1: is because of hate speech on the internet. They have

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Speaker 1: such little faith in their fellow man. They are so

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01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: quick to hate and think the worst of everyone around them.

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Speaker 1: They don't pause to think that maybe the reason why,

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Speaker 1: if this poll is correct, that acceptance is down is

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Speaker 1: because of how you're behaving. Because you are behaving despicably,

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Speaker 1: because you've gone from demanding equal rights to demanding additional rights,

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Speaker 1: to enforcing language policing and thought policing, and now getting

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Speaker 1: children involved and telling people how they can and cannot think,

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Speaker 1: and telling businesses what they can and cannot do. And

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Speaker 1: maybe that has something to do with it, don't you

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Speaker 1: think it? In the realm of possibility, But of course

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Speaker 1: that's not what it's about. It's never about that. It's

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Speaker 1: about power, it's about control, and they have been extremely successful.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the reasons why the gay rights

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Speaker 1: movement was so successful that they'll never ever admit is

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Speaker 1: because it was led by white men, honestly, and they

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Speaker 1: had and you can make that as a privilege argument

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Speaker 1: they had if you're you know, you could say, well,

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Speaker 1: they had already had a status in society at that

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Speaker 1: time and that helped push it along. And I was

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Speaker 1: listening to someone the other day say that you see

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Speaker 1: a lot with with say companies, but many almost any organization.

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01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: This would apply to where they might start off with

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Speaker 1: really great leadership and they become successful, they become powerful,

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,439
Speaker 1: and then there will be people in their ranks who

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Speaker 1: see that, people who have authoritarian personality tendencies or tyrannical traits,

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: and they start to climb up and they start to

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Speaker 1: assume power, and then the companies the organization start going

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: in a different and a bad direction, and then they

887
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: have to correct themselves, and then those and hopefully someone

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01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 1: better will come along. And it's cyclical. That doesn't happen

889
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: with government, because with government they are never forced to

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: lose power necessarily unless someone like Donald Trump comes along

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Speaker 1: to shake things up. But you see, that's what happened

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Speaker 1: with the Alphabet people. And they're important to pay attention

893
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: to because they are a model for how much of

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Speaker 1: the left behaves. And I think they're the most powerful

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Speaker 1: of the identity groups. And you saw you see now

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Speaker 1: how it's been taken over by big trans and the

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01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: big trans argument and just things that have nothing to do.

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Speaker 1: If you go into any gay center in this country,

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01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: there's science about gun control and illegal immigration, and it's

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: it's pooling all of these far left issues together that

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: does more harm than good in the eyes of how

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Speaker 1: everyday Americans tend to view gay people. Oh, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show. I am Chadwickmore. I'm filling

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Speaker 1: in for Buck Sexton for our program today. And we

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Speaker 1: were just talking about the Alphabet people. And they're always

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Speaker 1: in the news. There they are. Every week, there's there's

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Speaker 1: another one of these videos in the news of Drag

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Speaker 1: Queen Story Hour. This is something that's that's a big

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Speaker 1: part of our It's become a part of our culture

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Speaker 1: this year. It's really taken off. If we could just

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Speaker 1: play just a clip six please. I just love drag

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Speaker 1: queens in general. It's a great opportunity to combine having

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Speaker 1: a little one and enjoying like the performance of drag.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important that we see different people. That

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01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: mom and dad look different from other people, and lots

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Speaker 1: of people love you and have stories for you, and

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Speaker 1: we can learn from everybody. Okay, that's that's from a

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Speaker 1: PBS News Hour segment on drag Queen Storytime. And I

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Speaker 1: was watching several local news stories about drag Queen story

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Speaker 1: Time happening in their local public libraries, and I could

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Speaker 1: not stop laughing because you the segments are all the same.

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Speaker 1: You know. It opens up with the some drag queen

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Speaker 1: reading story, and you have shots of the audience and

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Speaker 1: these moms holding their children, and they talk to the

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Speaker 1: moms about it. It's always the same segment. And every

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Speaker 1: single mother on all these local news stations and in

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Speaker 1: that audience and in that clip, they all are the

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Speaker 1: exact same person. I'm not lying. They look the exact same.

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Speaker 1: They're all yoga bodied, late thirties, dirty blonde hair, no makeup.

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Speaker 1: They're like the Stepford Wive edition of the NPR listening

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Speaker 1: Whole food shopping Park Slope mom, every single one of them.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious. And then I looked up the woman who

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Speaker 1: started Drag Queen's Story Hour. Her name is Michelle T.

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Speaker 1: And she is an author in Low and Behold, San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and she's one of them. She looks exactly like them,

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Speaker 1: And then I realized what this whole thing was about.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god. These are women who

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Speaker 1: spent their twenties getting drunken gay bars, and then they

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01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: got married and had kids, and their gay friends won't

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Speaker 1: hang out with them anymore and they miss them, and

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Speaker 1: so they invite a drag queen into the public library

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Speaker 1: to still be in touch with that world, to still

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Speaker 1: be like they're cool and like queer or whatever. Because

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Speaker 1: for a while I'm like, gay men, don't. This isn't

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Speaker 1: something that gay men would do, like on their own.

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Speaker 1: And it turns out I'm right. There are chapters of

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Speaker 1: Drag Queen Story Hour across the nation. And I was

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Speaker 1: looking up the leaders and they're all these these NPR

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Speaker 1: Stepford moms. It's really funny, it's really entertaining. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: after the show is up, they rushed the stage and

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01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: they just want to hang out with the drag queen

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01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: and ask you, oh my god, I love your hair

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Speaker 1: and your makeup, and you are so fierce, you are

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Speaker 1: so fierce. Can we be friends? I kind of don't

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Speaker 1: have a I wouldn't have a problem with drag Queen

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Speaker 1: story Hour if it wasn't such a thing. It's it's

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Speaker 1: so typical of the left that they got to take

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Speaker 1: something and they got to make it a thing, and

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01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: they got to ram it down your throat and they're

960
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: just like, ha ha, that stick it to you, bigot's

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Speaker 1: look what we're doing when really like nobody cares. If

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Speaker 1: you weren't trying to make it into such a move

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Speaker 1: into a thing, I could see the value of you know,

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Speaker 1: PANTOMI pantomime performer for example, or very few, but some

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Speaker 1: drag queens are actually have jobs in costume design. How

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Speaker 1: many of jobs in hair and makeup? And I can

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Speaker 1: see the kids like to play dress up, and I

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01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: can see the value of of a child. You know,

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01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: this person walks in with this large glittery outfit on

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: and they're very stunning to look at, and I could

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Speaker 1: I could certainly see the value of that. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be a movement. It could be why and

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Speaker 1: the drag queens are coming in or probably hung over.

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01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: They're not talented per se except for nightlife, performing lip

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: syncing and moving around on the stage. And then you

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Speaker 1: get the instances, which I think the ones you see most.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm talking about this is there

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: was one of these clips going viral on Twitter this

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Speaker 1: week where you see the ones who are doing dancing

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Speaker 1: really predocatively, which in front of children room, which is disgusting.

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Speaker 1: We have a little clip here, clip seven. Please would

982
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Speaker 1: like to do some of those funny little dances from

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: fortnight Does anybody know any of the dances from Fortnite? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Then you are a credit to your community. But most

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01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: of all, Michael liked to twork. Now does anybody in

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Speaker 1: this room know how to twork? All? Right? But it's

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: quite important to the story. So I we'll just give

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01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: you a very quick All you need to do is

989
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: you just stand on your feet on a shoulder with

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01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: the part like show Okay, I'll show you at the side.

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01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 1: Did you give a better of you and you're crouched

992
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: down into this sort of position, be a bum sticking out.

993
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: They'll be taking this all in and then you just

994
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: move your bump up and down like that and that's tworking.

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: It's do you hear the nervous laughter of the parents

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01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: in the room and the videos it's gross, it's not

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01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: even tworking. It's like this humping action after this drag

998
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: queen like hikes his dress up and it's disgusting. Uh.

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: And there are even more sexually suggestive performances and and

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: you know why this show how woke we are and

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01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: they get to these bigots. Um, yeah, like we wouldn't care,

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01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, like mostly uh. And then of course there

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Speaker 1: was a story I broke this story actually of this

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: drag queen Desmond is amazing, who was Um, it's all

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01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: part of this this motion. They have to weaponize children,

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01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: and they used children. Desmond was one of those the

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01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: drag kid thing. I think there's a TV show on

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01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: Netflix that's like a drag kid thing. It's disgusting. It's

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: hyper sexualizing children. There was the one Desmond who was

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Speaker 1: dancing for dollar bills in a gay bar in Brooklyn

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01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: late at night where cell phones weren't allow it. And

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: a bar that has I wouldn't even say the what's

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: called a dark room. And I won't even tell you

1014
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: what that is. But it's not where you develop photographs.

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: And you see that with Greta, and you saw that

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01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: with the Parkland kids. You see it with climate change,

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Speaker 1: with with you remember a group of kids confronting Diane

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Speaker 1: Feinstein about climate change? Why does it left weaponized children?

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01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have to weaponize children, you know

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Speaker 1: you are you're in a losing fight. And it's also

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01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: completely immoral. I mean, I don't even like saying these

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Speaker 1: kids names. It makes me feel gross. Well, why am

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Speaker 1: I talking about teenagers if I want to talk about

1024
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: your fake climate change narratives? Uh? But I expect we'll

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01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: see plenty more of this. I hope that the LGBT

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01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: kid thing is a first to go away, And it

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01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: seems like it might be because people are really not

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01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: comfortable no matter how hard the media and Big gay

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01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: is trying to push children on this. But I can

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01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: expect we'll see plenty more children in the headlines. It

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01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: seems to work for them. They become invincible. We are

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Speaker 1: deeply concerned about Secretary Pompeo's effort now to potentially interfere

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Speaker 1: with witnesses whose testimony is needed before our committee many

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Speaker 1: of whom are mentioned in the whistleblower complaint, And we

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Speaker 1: want to make it abundantly clear that any effort by

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Speaker 1: the Secretary, by the President, or anyone else to interfere

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Speaker 1: with the Congress's ability to call before it relevant witnesses

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: will be considered as evidence of obstruction of the lawful

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Speaker 1: functions of Congress. And this President of the United States

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Speaker 1: is stooping to a level that is beneath the dignity

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Speaker 1: of the Constitution of the United States and our founders.

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Speaker 1: Since the chair mention our founders, they put guardrails in

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Speaker 1: the Constitution because they're new there might be someone who

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: would overplay his or her power. They never thought that

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Speaker 1: we would have a president who would kick those guardrails

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Speaker 1: over and disregard the Constitution and say, proposite an article

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Speaker 1: too says that I can do whatever I feel like.

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Speaker 1: Did the President actually say that, I know what we're called?

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01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: That was Adam Schiff, Shifty Schiff and Nancy Pelosi the

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Speaker 1: slurr of the House when they announced that they were

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01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: going to be officially talking about impeachment, because they've only

1052
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: been talking about it since before he even was inaugurated.

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Speaker 1: That was of course from a few days ago, and

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Speaker 1: now the White House has said that it will not

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Speaker 1: cooperate with this impeachment inquiry. Why should they? And they

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Speaker 1: were they The White House is going to reject demands

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Speaker 1: for documents, and they're going to reject demands for testimony

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Speaker 1: at the direction of the State Department, the US ambassador

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Speaker 1: to the EU, which apparently is being summoned before the House.

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Speaker 1: Trump says he would love to send Gordon Sanlin to testify,

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Speaker 1: but not before. What Trump said is a quote totally

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Speaker 1: compromised kangaroo court according to polls, which how how were

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Speaker 1: liable are those going to be? Recent poll just said

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Speaker 1: three and ten Republicans support impeachment. This is coming from

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Speaker 1: the week three and ten republicans. M maybe the another

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Speaker 1: pole said close to it? Was it? Fifty eight percent

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Speaker 1: of Americans support it. None of these can be trusted. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: What do the Democrats exactly think that they're doing? It

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01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: is almost do they not know anything that happened in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen? Do they not understand that the election of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was such a rebuke of this behavior of

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01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: the of the what of the regime, the regime being Washington.

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01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: Both Democrats and Republicans the swamp the that this sort

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Speaker 1: of go that this this kind of behavior is going

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 1: to get them anywhere, But it does. Look, I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that it would go through. My original impression was

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Speaker 1: let them try it, because you know, in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: in the midterms, the Democrats they really exhausted their voter roles,

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Speaker 1: didn't they. The Democrats are out in full force in

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01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:05,520
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, the Republicans not so much. And what happened modest,

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01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: modest gains in the House, nothing nothing to write home about,

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01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: no blue wave, no landslide. Yeah, they overtook the House,

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: but by no means was it historically a big win.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think in opposition parties usually take more

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Speaker 1: seats in midterm elections. So if they try to impeach

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01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: Trump in twenty twenty, what do they think is going

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 1: to happen. They have no one. They're not running anyone

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01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: that anyone's excited about. At the moment, No one's excited

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: about any of the candidates. There's no energy behind them

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01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: on the Democrats, but the Republicans, the Trump voters will

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01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 1: be out in fuller force than they were in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: If they try to impeach this president. It almost guarantees

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Speaker 1: a landslide. I don't really think they're going to be

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Speaker 1: too worried about that. The Democrat Party, the nominees. Now, well,

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: now we have here, we have Hillary Hillary sitting down

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: for an interview. If we could roll clip nine, please,

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: So maybe there does need to be a rematch. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously I can beat him again, but that was Hillary

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01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: Clinton giving an interview, not from the over office, saying

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01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: that she could beat him again. So do we think

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: Hillary is going to run again? Oh? Please? I know

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01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: everyone wants it. Everyone wants it. A recent study pole,

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01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: not a very professional one, said that she would come

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01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: in third. We have now apparently three and four poles

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01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: saying that Warren is ahead of Biden, which I I

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01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: think I began to see coming. Other than that, we've

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01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: got you have in a party that's united only by

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: only one clear goal, and that is defeat Trump at

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01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,759
Speaker 1: any costs, And yet they can't land a single blow

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01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 1: at all. All they have is this impeachment nonsense, and

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01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: they seem to think that the country. I don't know

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: if if you know, the Democrats are increasingly the party

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01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: of the old, detached out of touch Boomers. Do they

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01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: think that they're still living in an era where they

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01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: where people like the establishment, where people are going to

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: celebrate this. I suppose that the Trump deranged, the Trump

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01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: deranged among us will cling to false hope. He maybe

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Speaker 1: get impeached. It's not going to remove him from office.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in a way, it's kind of abusive how

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Speaker 1: the Democrats keep doing this to the left, to the

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: Trump deranged. It's emotional abuse. They get their hopes up constantly.

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01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: The media too, with Russia Gate and every scandal that

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Speaker 1: comes along. This is it, We're getting rid of him. No,

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: you're not. You're not getting rid of hi. So waste

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Speaker 1: as much money as you want, waste everyone's time. It's

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Speaker 1: all they have, all right. My next guest is contributing

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Speaker 1: editor at The Spectator. You can also find you can

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Speaker 1: find his most recent work that we're gonna be discussing

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Speaker 1: one on Romney Republicism in the inaugural print issue of

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01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: the Spectator USA, which is out this month. You can

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01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: also find his work on Spectator USA, the website that's

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Speaker 1: Spectator dot us. Full disclosure, I am also a columnist

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Speaker 1: at Spectator USA, but I assure you that had nothing

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01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: to do with selecting this incredibly well informed guest. Daniel,

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01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Oh, I'm delighted to be on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. So we've been talking about impeachment,

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01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: of course, what else is in the news. And you

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01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: have a great column in Spectator USA saying the headline

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01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: is impeachment is regime suicide. And you make you compare

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01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: the Nixon's non impeachment and Clinton's impeachment with this impending

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: impeachment of Trump, which you believe is going to happen.

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01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: And I am beginning to agree with you, but you

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01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: frame it in how the parties have changed and culture

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01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: has changed. Can you talk about that a bit? Yeah,

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01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: The conventional wisdom about Richard Nixon's impeachment is almost sped

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01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: or he's impending impeachment. Nixon resigned because he was pretty

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01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,919
Speaker 1: much clear cut that he was going to be impeached

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01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: by the House and most likely convicted and removed by

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01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: the Senate. So he resigns preemptively, and he does so,

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Speaker 1: in fact, in part simply because he did win such

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: a big landside victory in nineteen seventy two when he

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: won forty nine states. Basically there was still enough of

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01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: a consensus in the country at that point that you

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01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 1: could rally everyone around a leader. And it was clear

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Speaker 1: that Richard Nixon had lost so much of the country's trust,

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01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, first with Democrats of Chorus, first with Independence,

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01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: but eventually two with the Republicans, that there was really

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01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: no way for him to stay in power, and that

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01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: if he tried to do so would wind up hurting

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: the Republicans not only in the nineteen seventy four mid terms,

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01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: but also being fatal to them, most likely in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six presidential election. So it was a case

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01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: where the national consensus had turned against Richard Nixon. It

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01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: was on consensus he previously was leading, and now it

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: was one that was very much a flipt And with

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01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton in nineteen ninety eight, there was not as

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: much of a national consensus. It was not something that

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01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: brought together with Hulkins and Democrats, but Republicans thought that

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01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: it would, and the fact that it didn't, the fact

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01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: that even a Republican Senate wouldn't convict and remove Bill

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01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: Clinton for his very clear lying under oath, indicated that

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01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 1: there was still enough of a sense in the country.

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01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: But you had to impeach someone over something really clear cut,

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01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,560
Speaker 1: really serious, not just lying about sex, even if he

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01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: did it under oath. So there were still certain norms

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01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: that the country as a whole brought into whereas today

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Speaker 1: I think there really is a much more of a

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01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: sense that we are locked in a battle between left

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01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: and right and that there is no common ground to

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01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: appeal to in an impeachment proceeding. So if this impeachment,

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01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: if he does get impeached and it fails, what does

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01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: that mean for What does that mean for both parties?

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01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 1: What does that mean for the upcoming election? And for

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01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: this country? What does that mean for this already divided

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01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: country if they try to impeach him, Well, it just

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: makes impeachment look like even more of a joke than

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01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: it already seems to be. Based on the impeachment of

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01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: Andrew Johnson in the nineteenth century and Bill Clinton in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, the American public is already starting to

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Speaker 1: get the sense that impeachment is not necessarily a serious

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01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: proceeding where people who are really concerned about the rule

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01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: of law try to check a president who's crossed the

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01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: line in some clearly criminal fashions. People are now starting

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01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: to see, wait a minute, this really is a purely

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01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: political mechanism. This is just another way of harassing a

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01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: president you don't like, whether it's a Republican or a Democrat,

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01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, in the twenty first century or

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Speaker 1: whether it's in the nineteenth century. A failure of impeachment

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Speaker 1: here is going to show that this was really about

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01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: simply embarrassing Republicans, trying to paint the Senate Republicans into

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01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 1: a corner in the forthcoming election, and basically trying to

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Speaker 1: tilt the twenty twenty election towards whoever the Democratic nominee is.

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01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: But would it even tilt towards the Democrats, because my senses,

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01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: it would just get Republicans out into the polls. It

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: would impassion their vote more. They would get them out,

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: maybe even more than in twenty sixteen. It's very high

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01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: stakes for the Democrats. And in fact, I think the

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Speaker 1: reason Nancy Pelosi has been so reluctant up until now

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01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: to try some sort of impeachment proceeding it's precisely because

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01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: she's afraid of that. She thinks that this will galvanize Republicans.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a catastrophe for Democrats. They're going

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Speaker 1: to be disorganized, They're going to try to have an

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Speaker 1: impeachment over you know, very trivial or very abstruse claims

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Speaker 1: of lawbreaking, if there are claims of lawbreaking at all. Right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not pointing to any statute in saying

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump violated it. What they're doing is simply

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01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: casting aspersions on his character, claiming he did something nefarious

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Speaker 1: with Ukraine, and trying to gin up a basically a

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Speaker 1: political lynching here. Right, And so I want to talk

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01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,839
Speaker 1: about now President Trump is having a rally in Minnesota tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And in your Peace on Romney Republicanism in the print

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Speaker 1: edition of Spectator Spectator USA, you discuss George W. Bush's

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Speaker 1: electoral reelection actoral map versus Trump's, and you highlight this

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01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: the states such as a Pennsylvania, Michigan, in Wisconsin which

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01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: did not go for Bush, but Pennsylvania and Wisconsin certainly

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01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: went for Trump. Well, there's a lot of talk about Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Trump seems to say he could flip Minnesota. That seems

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01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: to be a place of a lot of interest. Do

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01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: you think that's possible? Is there? What do you see

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Speaker 1: happening with with Minnesota. It's possible. You know, Minnesota has

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01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: idiosyncratic politics. The Democratic Party in minnesot So it is

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Speaker 1: actually the Democratic Farmer Labor Party if I remember its

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Speaker 1: name correctly. It has this you know, long populous history,

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Speaker 1: and it's entirely possible that you could find a lot

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01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: of the same sorts of folks who flipped from being

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Speaker 1: Obama voters to being Trump voters in twenty sixteen flipping

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01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: to Trump in twenty twenty as well. It's a long shot.

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01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: It's you know, a play to kind of expand the map,

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01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: but I think it's, uh, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: similarities between Minnesota and Wisconsin and some of the other

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01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: states that Trump won which Republicans hadn't won in quite

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01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: some time, you can see some pretty good grounds for

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01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: cautious optimism. Here. In that same piece you sort of

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: make you make the point that the what you call

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01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: Romney Republicanism has been missing as it's missing the signs

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: of Trump for years, and you and you talk about

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01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: Pero russ Pro's campaign, Pat Buchanan's campaign, Trump sort of

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01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: being a kind of, uh, an apex of of all

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01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: of that. What the Republicans sort of missed the sign

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01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 1: along the way for decades that they had an ideological problem.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that where does the party go after Trump?

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01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Do you think that he's just a fluke or is

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01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 1: this going to permanently change the GOP. It's a permanent change.

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Speaker 1: And you know, one of these points I was making

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01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: was that this change has been underway even before Trump

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01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: emerged on the scene. And really what Trump has done

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01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: is simply to make it so powerful and so obvious

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01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: that the establishment can't ignore it anymore. You know, you

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01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: saw not only going back to the nineteen nineties with

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01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: people like Pat mccannon and Ross prow that there was

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01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: some strong discontent with globalism, strong discontent with the drift

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Speaker 1: towards open borders and with some of the trade deals

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01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: and some of the foreign interventions that we got into

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Speaker 1: in the nineties and two thousands. But also, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can look at the campaigns of Mike Huckabee, for example,

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, or Rick Santorum in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: and they made the case for Republicans reaching out more

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Speaker 1: to blue collar workers, reaching out to families who felt

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Speaker 1: hard pressed by for cultural liberalism, and also buy an

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Speaker 1: economy that sometimes didn't seem to put families first. These

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Speaker 1: forces and tendencies have impressing on the Republicans, on the

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Speaker 1: Republican establishment for decades now, and yet the Republican establishment

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Speaker 1: has said, well, we're just going to go out and

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Speaker 1: talk about job creators, We're just going to go out

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Speaker 1: and talk about tax cuts, and we expect this is

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Speaker 1: going to produce results for us, and it really hasn't that.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you saw that the map that won for

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush in two thousand and four kind of

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Speaker 1: narrowly was a map that couldn't be replicated in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight or in twenty twelve, in part because

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Speaker 1: of state like Virginia, for example, had pretty much permanently

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Speaker 1: flipped over to the Democrats because of the growth of

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Speaker 1: the federal workforce. Here right. You make that point that

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Speaker 1: Virginia has pretty much gone and mainly because of the

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Speaker 1: DC suburbs. It's a good point in the article. And

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Speaker 1: you also have this great line in the piece that

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Speaker 1: says the autopsy that followed the GOP's drubbing in twenty

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Speaker 1: twelve is a case in point. It prescribed that Republicans

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Speaker 1: should talk and act more like Democrats on issues like immigration,

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Speaker 1: which is what we see with the more conservative elites.

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Speaker 1: You point out that they've actually moved the right wing.

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Speaker 1: Popular populism has made them move to the left. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've always hated the idea of, you know, a sort

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Speaker 1: of populist conservatism. They are, you know, sort of They

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Speaker 1: come from the same cultural institutions as the leaders of

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Speaker 1: the left do. They spend a lot of time not

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Speaker 1: only as undergraduates but in graduate school sort of imbibing,

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Speaker 1: drinking from the same fountains of ideas, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: as the progressives do. And so as a result, they

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Speaker 1: really are culturally much more similar to the Democrats and

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Speaker 1: the leftist that they supposedly oppose than they are two

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Speaker 1: Americans who are you know, working in factories or who

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Speaker 1: are you know actually living lives in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the country. Absolutely, there's a great deal of alienation between

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Speaker 1: the Republican voting base and the people who claim to

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Speaker 1: speak for it at the elite levels. Absolutely, very well,

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Speaker 1: said Daniel McCarthy from contributing editor at The Spectator. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, Thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me on, and we are back. This is the Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. My name is Chadwick Moore. I'm not buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: filling in for the Buckster. Could we play clip ten please?

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Speaker 1: I've never been to China before, but I hate to

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Speaker 1: say I'm a little disappointed in all of you what

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Speaker 1: I've seen. You seem to treat your people like dirt.

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Speaker 1: You don't believe in any individual freedoms. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: got Winnie the Pooh and Piglet in jail. Now, come on, China.

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Speaker 1: You know a country ain't nothing unless it's got decency

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Speaker 1: and integrity. And I think I speak for Pooh and

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Speaker 1: Piglet and all of Disney when I say you could

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Speaker 1: use some tegrity China. Now, it just so happens that

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Speaker 1: I own a tegrity farm. Ed we're gonna be rich.

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Speaker 1: Jellis I need to tell you something. I think I'm homosexual.

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Speaker 1: And also I'm addicted to cookin Yeah, Ki, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: can get you a liver transplant. God, God, listen, guys,

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Speaker 1: we just got worried back from the Chinese censors. They

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Speaker 1: don't want us mentioning organ transplants. How come well they've

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Speaker 1: been accused of harvesting organs from the look. Look, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They they just said no to the organ stuff.

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Speaker 1: That was a clip from the most recent episode of

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Speaker 1: south Park. Uh, south Park. That episode just got south

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Speaker 1: Park banned from China. So the according to reports, because

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Speaker 1: of that episode, China has scrubbed virtually every south Park

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Speaker 1: clip from its internet. It's scrubbed every episode, it's scrubbed

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Speaker 1: every online discussion about the show, and all even fan pages,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, from their social media networks because of that

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Speaker 1: recent episode of south Park that was making fun of China, China,

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Speaker 1: as the President says, it's a really funny episode, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it makes fun of Um. Well, it actually to

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Speaker 1: be honest, isn't It's it's a commentary. So there's two

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Speaker 1: storylines that happened. And one of the characters, Stand's dad

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Speaker 1: goes there to sell marijuana because he's a weed grower,

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Speaker 1: a legal weed grower. He gets thrown into a Chinese

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Speaker 1: labor camp and in there he meets Pooh and Piglet,

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Speaker 1: who are also in the camp. And this is actually

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Speaker 1: a true story. I looked it up that Pooh and

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Speaker 1: Piglet were banned from China because people were posting side

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Speaker 1: by side pictures of President She and Pooh saying that

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Speaker 1: they look alike a Pooh bear, and because people were

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Speaker 1: posting these side by side photos, poo has been banned

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Speaker 1: from China. So it's a it's a funny episode, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's the other The other running storyline is that

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Speaker 1: the characters dan Is is writing a movie and as

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Speaker 1: you heard in that clip piece, the director is always

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Speaker 1: that a check with the Chinese. So it's the real commentary, though,

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Speaker 1: is about and one of the characters says this in

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Speaker 1: the show that he says, we live in a time

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Speaker 1: where the only movies American kids are allowed to see

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Speaker 1: are those that are approved by China. It's mainly it's

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Speaker 1: mainly a commentary on entertainment. And throughout the episode there's

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Speaker 1: all these Disney characters popping up and Marvel, Marvel movie characters,

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Speaker 1: superhero movie characters. And this of course comes after a

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Speaker 1: Houston Rockets executive tweeted something in support of the Hong

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Speaker 1: Kong protesters, the pro democracy protesters in Hong Kong, and

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Speaker 1: just that single tweet among hundreds of NBA executives, one

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Speaker 1: tweet sparked a huge backlash in the Chinese government, with

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Speaker 1: Beijing going into overdrive and saying they would stop airing

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Speaker 1: Rockets games, and local sponsors pulled their funds from the team.

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Speaker 1: So that's China, and I was sicking, you don't really see.

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Speaker 1: I watched the south Park episode last night and you

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Speaker 1: can watch free online, and it occurred to me that

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Speaker 1: I had never I don't think I've seen a political

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Speaker 1: parody of China. You see parodies of maybe Chinese culture,

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Speaker 1: but of like that, and there must clearly be a

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Speaker 1: reason why. So Matt Stone and Trey Parker, who are

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Speaker 1: the creators of South Park, and who are Republicans in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: It's maybe a year or two ago. They were at

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Speaker 1: some Hollywood event and they received an award and they

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Speaker 1: got on stage and said, you know, we're Republicans, right,

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Speaker 1: and everyone laughed and they said no, no, we're serious,

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Speaker 1: and then the room got a little still. But so

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Speaker 1: they released a statement to the Chinese government and their

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Speaker 1: statement says, quote, like the NBA, we welcome the Chinese

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Speaker 1: censors into our homes and into our hearts. We too

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Speaker 1: love money more than freedom and democracy. She doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like Wenie the Pooh at all. Tune into our three

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Speaker 1: hundred episode this Wednesday at ten Long lived the Great

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Speaker 1: Communist Party of China. Good for them, Good for them.

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Speaker 1: I saw Jack Pisobik on Twitter. He's a kind he's

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Speaker 1: a Trump guy. He's kind of a I think believe

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Speaker 1: it works for One America News, and he had said

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Speaker 1: South Park is standing up to China, Dave Chappelle is

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Speaker 1: standing up to the woke left, and the most a

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Speaker 1: tai woke movie of the last ten years was made

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Speaker 1: by the director of Old School and Hangover, who knew

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Speaker 1: comics from the two thousands would save America. He's kind

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Speaker 1: of right. It's a backlash the two thousands, that last

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Speaker 1: generation before the PC took over, well before Obama, before

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Speaker 1: Obama breathed life into cultural Marxism and made it mainstream

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Speaker 1: when he freed it from the universities. And that last

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Speaker 1: director that pisobiac was referring to is the director of Joker.

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Speaker 1: The director of Joker, Todd his last name just escapes me.

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Speaker 1: He used to do comedy movies. He used to do

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Speaker 1: Old School and The Hangover. And in fact, he gave

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Speaker 1: an interview to Vandy Fair about Todd Phillips is his name.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry Todd Phillips about his switch to this extremely

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Speaker 1: dark movie, and he said in Vandy Fair, go try

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Speaker 1: to be funny nowadays with this wokee culture. And there's

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Speaker 1: lots of expel DIBs in here, but he said, essentially,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna try to do it anymore. It's too difficult.

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Speaker 1: But of course, there are plenty of people who aren't

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Speaker 1: concerned with censorship around the globe, are particularly here in

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Speaker 1: the United States. Of course, the mainstream media. Great article.

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Speaker 1: Great article in the New York Times last week, earlier

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Speaker 1: this week, actually I believe it was by Andrew Morantz.

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Speaker 1: Clearly I'm being sarcastic. The headline was. The headline was

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Speaker 1: how free speech is bad for us, how free speech

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Speaker 1: is killing us, free speech is killing us. And in

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Speaker 1: this article the New York Times, this up ed piece

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Speaker 1: he is calling for. This is great. I've never heard this,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard them be this bold before. It's it's

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Speaker 1: actually wonderful. I love how the their hysteria, we're seeing

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Speaker 1: exactly who they are. Trump shows us exactly who they are,

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Speaker 1: and UH and Trump's followers and um the people who

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Speaker 1: push back against them. So so the New York Times

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Speaker 1: here is calling for Congress to UH, for example, you know,

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Speaker 1: just saying they're just throwing it out there because we

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Speaker 1: have this, we have this real problem with hate speech.

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Speaker 1: We have this real problem with mean people on the internet,

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Speaker 1: and it's leading to mass killings and it's destroying lives.

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Speaker 1: What they really mean when they bring all this up

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Speaker 1: is it's leading to populism. It led to past tense,

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Speaker 1: It led to populism. It led to the man who

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Speaker 1: was never supposed to win winning the presidency. But instead

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Speaker 1: they'll say, um no, it's it's violence. It's an encouraging

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Speaker 1: white supremacy on my violence. So the New York Times has,

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Speaker 1: as you know, for example, here's how they could fix it.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps there should be a national campaign to promote news literacy.

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Speaker 1: You know, it could invest this is straight from the article.

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Speaker 1: It could invest heavily in library programming. It could build

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Speaker 1: a robust public media in the mold of the BBC,

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Speaker 1: because we all know how fair the BBC is to

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Speaker 1: the anti EU, anti globalist among them, the people who

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Speaker 1: are forced by virtual gunpoint to fund it. And the

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Speaker 1: article says, you know, we could rethink section two thirty

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Speaker 1: of the Communication's Decency Act, the rule that essentially allows

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Speaker 1: Facebook and YouTube to get away with parentheses, glorification of murder.

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Speaker 1: It allows them to get away with murder. The article

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Speaker 1: goes on to say that we could fund we the taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: What we should do is fund a rival to compete

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Speaker 1: with Facebook or Google. Quote the way the postal service

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Speaker 1: competes with FedEx and ups. Because when you have a choice,

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01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 1: how are you going to send your package? Uh? This

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01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: is this is sometimes. I don't know if The New

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Speaker 1: York Times is parody anymore, I don't know. But it

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Speaker 1: goes on to to say that he interviews an expert

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Speaker 1: on mean words in this article, and um, the expert

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Speaker 1: on mean your mean words compares harmful speech to carbon pollution,

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Speaker 1: and he says that people are allowed to drive cars,

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Speaker 1: but the government can regulate greenhouse emissions, the private sector

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01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:04,759
Speaker 1: can transition to renewable energy sources, don't you know? Civic

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01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 1: groups can provide can promote public transportation, and cities can

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Speaker 1: build sea walls to prepare for rising ocean levels. This

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Speaker 1: is all frus straight from the article. We could choose

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Speaker 1: to reduce all of that to a simple dictate everyone

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Speaker 1: should be allowed to drive a car and that's that.

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Speaker 1: But doing so wouldn't stop the waters from rising around us.

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Speaker 1: So they're opening calling for government, Facebook, government, Google, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we just want certain words, bans, not everything.

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Speaker 1: That's never a slippery slope, is it. Silicon Valley is

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Speaker 1: one place also like the media, while they're they're the

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Speaker 1: biggest enforcers of speech, of censorship in this country. Perfectly

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Speaker 1: happy to you know, these are the companies are the

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Speaker 1: most woke around us. These are the most we're told,

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Speaker 1: these are the most woke people in America. These Silicon

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Speaker 1: value executives, Google, Facebook, Twitter, they love diversity, they love

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Speaker 1: They're extremely tolerant. They love diversity, and yet they are

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Speaker 1: also the first companies to capitulate to countries that oppress

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Speaker 1: extremely vulnerable groups, two countries that oppress homosexuals, to countries

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Speaker 1: that suppress the free speech of those fighting for democracy.

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Speaker 1: I would be curious. I haven't seen this yet, but

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Speaker 1: I would be curious to see what Google results search

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Speaker 1: results are in China for the Hong Kong protests versus

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Speaker 1: the ones, versus what you get in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Someone someone who's in China. If you happen to listen

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Speaker 1: to this, you should pull that up and send it

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Speaker 1: along and we can compare because we all know that

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Speaker 1: that Chinese Google is just does it goes. However, the

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Speaker 1: government that Google hand of the keys over to the

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Speaker 1: Chinese government just run it how they need to, and

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Speaker 1: we see Google. Last year, Google banned over seventy gay

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Speaker 1: themed apps from the its play store in Indonesia. Indonesia,

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Speaker 1: which is of course a Muslim government and very Indonesia

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Speaker 1: is often touted as the you know, the example of

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Speaker 1: modern moderate Islam. And they didn't really say that anymore

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Speaker 1: because they started whipping gays in the street or public,

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Speaker 1: public whippit canings and whippings of gays. They take transgenders

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Speaker 1: and they shave their heads and dress them up in

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Speaker 1: mail clothing, trans women, dress them menlo males clothing, and

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Speaker 1: parade them around town. And the government of Indonesia also said, hey, Google, no,

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Speaker 1: we don't know gay dating apps, no gay news sources,

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Speaker 1: none of that year, and Google said no problem, of course,

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Speaker 1: of course anything because woke doesn't sell in those countries.

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Speaker 1: And as the point that south Park was making, they

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Speaker 1: just love money. Hollywood and Silicon Valley, they're one and

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Speaker 1: the same. They're all fake, and they're the first one

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Speaker 1: to say that you're hateful and you're biggot. They're all hypocrites.

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Speaker 1: There was a instance where a few months ago, Michelle Malkin,

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Speaker 1: who's a sort of outspoken conservative personality, got a notification

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Speaker 1: from Twitter saying that her something she posted, just letting

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Speaker 1: her know that something she posted violated the blasphemy laws

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Speaker 1: of Pakistan. She's an American citizen, she is, as far

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Speaker 1: as I know, never been to Pakistan. But Twitter is

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Speaker 1: just letting her know that that's not allowed in Pakistan

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Speaker 1: if she happened to be there, or ever we're going

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Speaker 1: to travel there, just firing a warning shot at her.

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Speaker 1: If Twitter and Facebook and Google and all of these

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Speaker 1: companies so readily will bow down to the speech restrictions

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Speaker 1: and human civil rights violations of other countries, of developing countries,

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Speaker 1: of China, of Islamic countries, why is it so hard

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Speaker 1: to expect that they must respect our speech laws, of

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Speaker 1: which there are none with extremely few examples. Why shouldn't

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Speaker 1: we expect that if you want to do business in

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Speaker 1: the United States, you have to respect our laws in

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Speaker 1: the same way in which you There's no such thing

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Speaker 1: as hate speech. You can't ban people. Willie Nilly, I

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Speaker 1: just got a thirty day ban on Facebook yesterday for

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Speaker 1: sharing a column I wrote for Spectator USA that was headlined,

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Speaker 1: rednecks are the least racist people America. I got a

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Speaker 1: thirty day ban on Facebook for that, for saying that

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Speaker 1: rednecks aren't racist, which is apparently hateful. So why can't

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Speaker 1: we demand that these companies, you know, Hollywood can keep

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Speaker 1: churning out crap whatever. We'll always have some alternatives, but

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Speaker 1: the stakes are a little bigger with silken value. Why

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Speaker 1: can't we just start demanding that they have to respect

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Speaker 1: our rules on speech the way that they respect the

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Speaker 1: rules on speech in these other insanely progressive, regressive nations.

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Speaker 1: And we know why. It's because they're not only about business,

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Speaker 1: but they are about the Democrat Party, and they're about

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Speaker 1: helping the Democrat Party, and they're in bed with the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party as much as the media is. And I

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Speaker 1: probably think Facebook is probably the worst among them. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to see that change at all.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of signaling that it may, but I

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Speaker 1: doubt it. But all right, this has been the Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show, and I have been your stand in host,

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Speaker 1: Chadwick Moore. You can find my columns weekly at Spectator USA.

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Speaker 1: That's Spectator dot us. You can also find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter that's Chadwick Underscore More, m o O r E.

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Speaker 1: That's at Chadwick Underscore more. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson Tonight pretty regularly. I'm a regular guest on

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Speaker 1: that show and it has been a pleasure and hope

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Speaker 1: to join you guys all again soon