1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning. 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious, Charlamagne the gud We 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. La La Rosa is here as well, 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: and we got a special guest in the building. We 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: got the Queen and queens get the money we have, 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Rock said Shante, welcome, Hey. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: You, thank you. I appreciate that. 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: How are you feeling one, I feel absolutely blessed. Okay, 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: you know, and I feel good. 10 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: I feel good. 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: I think I've learned to age and and I enjoy it. 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: So because I don't fight age, I feel good every 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: day be messed up. 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I feel good. 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, you got a Lifetime Grammy Achievement Award. 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 4: How did that feel? 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: That was amazing? 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: You know when they first even contacted me and told me, like, listen, 19 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna give you a Lifetime Achievement award at the Grammys. 20 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: And then when I heard the class that I was in, 21 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: which happened to be Prince and Frankie Bevery and Frankie 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: Valley and taj mahall the clash. You know, when you 23 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: first hear all of them and then you say, okay, 24 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: and you're adding rocksne It was just incredible to me. 25 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: But it also shows perseverance, It shows patience, It shows 26 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: something that you know, a lot of people need to 27 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: have that understanding that when it comes to hip hop 28 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: and even when it comes to getting into entertainment and careers, 29 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: some things are going to take time. Sometimes it's the 30 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: slow grind. Yeah, you know, it's the slow It's the 31 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: slow burn that makes the encegnse smell good. 32 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: Did they have a hip hop category when you guys 33 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: were first putting out records? 34 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: No, they didn't, and then all of a sudden they 35 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: did come up with one. And then I remember we 36 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: had to everyone got together and wanted to boycott because 37 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: they had took it back out then they added it in. 38 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, definitely was it bittersweet a little bit because 39 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: it was like, I feel like I should have been 40 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: recognized a long time ago for my achievement to what 41 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: I've done in this industry. 42 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: Honestly, no, because if I was going to get a Grammy, 43 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: I would prefer to have it for lifetime achievement. That 44 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: means that it really focuses on everything that I've accomplished, 45 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: you know, like when you see my Grammy, My Grammy 46 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: represents the person who didn't sell millions of albums. You know, 47 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: my Grammy represents the person that said no to a 48 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: lot of things that people said yes, you know what 49 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: I mean. So therefore it has like a little more 50 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: of a significance to me personally. So I would love 51 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: to have it that way as opposed to you know, 52 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: because sometimes people will look at the Grammy and say, Okay, well, 53 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: we know they're gonna get the Grammy this year because 54 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: they had the hottest video and they had this and 55 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: they had that. But in order to have a lifetime, 56 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: you know, you have to put a lifetime in and 57 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: not everybody's gonna last a lifetime. Some people gonna get 58 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: a hot five years, some people might get a good ten. 59 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I've had a strong. 60 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: Forty and you're the first solo female rapper to do that. 61 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 5: To do so like, to receive this recognition, absolutely, that's amazing. 62 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 6: It was sitting in that moment like for you because 63 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 6: it is a first. You are getting it because of 64 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 6: the entirety of your career. Now, just the moment when 65 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 6: you get that call and you're sitting in it is like, 66 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 6: oh wow, or is it like boom, duh. 67 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: No, for me, it was like I really it was 68 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: like hard. It was hard for me to just understand, 69 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: like this is really happening. Because when you come into 70 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: the industry, you come into the industry for like three things, 71 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: and that's to get a record deal, because you want 72 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: to make sure that you get a record deal so 73 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna make a lot of money. And then too, 74 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: you want to make sure that you do that great album. 75 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: You want to go platinum, you want to be on Billboard, 76 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: that type of thing. But then you also want to Grammy. 77 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: I think everyone that goes into the music industry, you know, 78 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: as far as a performer or making records, you want 79 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: a Grammy. So for me it was like after a while, 80 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: I didn't expect that, but I also knew that I 81 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: wasn't gonna stop being me, Like I was not going 82 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: to change being Roxanne Chante. So if I was destined 83 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: to have a Grammy, then it's gonna come, whether I 84 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: sell a million records or not. And that's the reason 85 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: why sitting there, I was like, Okay, I am really 86 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: sitting here, like I am really next to them, Like 87 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: literally I had to reach out and touch people because 88 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: I was like, I really isn't Like, yeah, let me 89 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: just make sure, you know. And I took my daughter 90 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: with me and I kept touching her. She was like, man, 91 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: you're gonna mess up my meek up I'm touching you 92 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: know that type of stuff. But yeah, so definitely, I 93 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: truly enjoyed it. 94 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask, you know, I was talking to Sydney, 95 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: who's there, she does our digital and she was like, 96 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: you know, she watched the Rock Sande Chanta just roxyne 97 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: Chante movie, loved it, but she was like, there was 98 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: much about it that I missed out of it. And 99 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: she was like, you know, she really didn't go went 100 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: to the group homes that she went into. When this 101 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: that and the YETHERA, why was that taking out? Why 102 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: was that not ad dress? Because I even heard you 103 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: say something that you know, you've seen a better situation 104 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: in the group home than in our actual home. 105 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: Yes, so why was that taking out so much? 106 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: You know, when we did the Rock sand Rox sand movie, 107 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 3: you know, a big shout out to Pharrell, Forrest Whitaka, 108 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: you know, Mimi Valdez, Nina Banjovi, big shout out to 109 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 3: them for making this happen. But when we did the movie, 110 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: and when I told the story, literally every day everybody. 111 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Was in tears, you know, because I was in the streets. 112 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: For a very long time, and being a young girl 113 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: in the streets and being a pretty girl at that, 114 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of things that can happen, 115 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: you know, and it makes it makes you kind of cold, 116 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: it changes you a little bit. And so we only 117 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: did three years of my life because at first we 118 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: weren't really prepared. Felt like the world was prepared for 119 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: the full Rock sand Chante story. You know what I'm saying. 120 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: It's not something that you could really sit back and 121 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: be like, you know, it had a lot of gasping moments. 122 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: And then when we were doing the movie, one of 123 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: the things about it was the young lady who played me. 124 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: Her name is Jante Adams. It was her first time. 125 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: She had just came out of school June twenty sixth 126 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: and July fifth, we had her already taping. This was 127 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: her first time being in a movie, and there were 128 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: a lot of things I didn't want to subject her to, 129 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because I knew that coming 130 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 3: in the industry, it's whatever you are first presented as 131 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: is what you continue to be in the industry. 132 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't care how much you try to change. 133 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: They see you as that first time they were introduced 134 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: to you, and so I didn't want her to have 135 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: any nude scenes. I didn't want her to have any 136 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: strong sexual scenes. I didn't want her to have any 137 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: strong abuse scenes. So that this way her standard for 138 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: what she is going to have in the industry, and 139 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: it shows in the work that she did following up 140 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: working with Denzel and doing such other great movies and 141 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: doing plays and stuff like that. I was also thinking 142 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: about her, so I was like, listen, we can't put 143 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: that in, but it'll make a hell of a book. 144 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: You know. We can't put that in, but I want 145 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: to talk about this part. 146 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: And then even the extension of my movie, because people 147 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: say it just stops so abruptly. I didn't get a 148 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: chance to introduce them to BIZ. So now hoov has 149 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: done the extension of that. So now we're looking to 150 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: like the part two of everything that I've done is 151 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: now getting ready to show up in this new project, 152 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: which is incredible to me. 153 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: I break that with Kovy here, Lexarykooviy, can we get a. 154 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: Chair for coovie? 155 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: And over there and while we're getting a chair for him. Now, 156 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: how did Biz get introduced? Biz Macking? How did he 157 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: get introduced? 158 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: He was sleeping in the hallway in Queensbridge, like this 159 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: is that was my introduction to Biz. 160 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: Mark was sleeping in the hallway in Queensbridge. 161 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: But he was sleeping there because he was working with 162 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: Chan and he was he Biz had the energy that 163 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: we all needed because he said We're gonna be stars. 164 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: And I really couldn't see that because We're sleeping in 165 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: the movie theaters on forty second Street and I'm putting 166 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: my feet across biz lap because I hate sticky floors, 167 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: like still today, Like I will lose it right if 168 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: the floor is sticky, I will get up in mop 169 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: in the middle of the night. That is one of 170 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: my things, you know, because I don't want the floor 171 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: to be sticky, you know. And so for me, one 172 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: of the things was Biz would always say, don't worry 173 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: about his shiny, like we're gonna be stars. And I 174 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: mean we got karate flicks playing. I mean, if anybody 175 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: that went to his funeral they saw that, you know, 176 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: I kept my word at the end of everything that 177 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: we were gonna do regarding it, but he had that 178 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: energy that we all needed. And even when my DJ 179 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: told me, like you listen, I'm not gonna play for 180 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: you no more da da da, he said, look, I 181 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: will beatbox the entire show for you. And he beatboxed 182 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: so much that night he literally had to put his 183 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: lips inside of ice water. 184 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: And so these are the stories that people didn't get 185 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: a chance to see. 186 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: So that was the extension with Koov saying, you know what, 187 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: the story has to be told, and there's no way 188 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: that you can tell a Coov Bismarcky story without Kov 189 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: of course, so Coov gives you the whole vision of 190 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: how it takes place from Koolv's eyes and what he's seeing, 191 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: you know, which is incredible. And my daughter gets a 192 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: chance to play me, you know, because it's gonna be rocky, 193 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: and okay, that's how you do. 194 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: It well, Koobe. 195 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 6: I would love to hear you know your take on 196 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 6: putting the project together, because I remember you posted something 197 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: and you were talking about how you still cry when 198 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 6: you hear certain bis my key song I do, and 199 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 6: you mentioned that the story, the story if his life, 200 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 6: could never be told the right way unless you two 201 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 6: did it right, and now you're doing it so I 202 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 6: think that. I mean, it's gonna be exciting to watch, 203 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 6: but I would love to hear, you know, you talk 204 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: about putting together. 205 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: If she didn't bring the vision with the Rock Sanne 206 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: Rock Sande movie, right, who thinks they gonna make a 207 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 4: movie about your life? 208 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 209 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: And that movie was so good? He said, Damn, we 210 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: all got a movie really like like you know, we 211 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 4: the Juice crew, we every member has a movie, yes, right, 212 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: and then we started losing members so and we lost 213 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: mister Magic first before all of this even happened. So 214 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: we're saying, damn, we didn't get a chance to make 215 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 4: a magic movie. Shani got a chance to make her movie. 216 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: Biz left, I gotta make a movie. People might not 217 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: know my role in the crew. I'm gonna tell about 218 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: this whole story through my eyes because I remember Biz 219 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 4: getting down with Shan first because Biz was Shan's beatbox first. 220 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 4: Then Shante putting them on the roll with her, and 221 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 4: then she bringing the bize in me and Kine and 222 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: Swann on and then you know, everybody just coming on. 223 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: But it was because of her allowing her platform to 224 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: be shared with us because we all had something, but 225 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: she had it. You see what I'm saying. She had 226 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 4: that gift and it came across and when we all 227 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 4: she took us all on the road with him. Every 228 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: last one of us performed with her. So I can 229 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 4: tell that story now you know. I did it in 230 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: the books. I got three books out right, so you know. 231 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 4: And for people that don't know the Symphony, the Symphony two, 232 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: DJ Koovie Never Sleeps. These are all stories about all 233 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: of us. It's not just about me. It's about all 234 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: of us, the journey and everything like that. Big shot 235 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: to Lucio Dutch for writing those books for me. And 236 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: we put together this movie and the script is incredible. 237 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: How did y'all know Biz Macky was the one? 238 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Right? 239 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Because if you look at Biz, you've ever been around Biz, 240 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: you'd be like, no way he's gonna be. 241 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: A successful rap because he always is joking. He was 242 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: like the big teddy be as like, how. 243 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: Did you know he was going to be the one? 244 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Because he never gave up. 245 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: He literally dreamed like on moments when I was like, listen, 246 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 3: I'm about to go back to Dayton hustlers because this 247 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: is my word. 248 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: We all have those times. 249 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Well I've been there, Yeah, exactly, like listen, I need 250 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: a fur y'all playing you know what I'm saying. And 251 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: I know I could get this, And so he still 252 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: had that like, no, this is what we're gonna do. 253 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: This is it. 254 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: And so even going through you know, not only going 255 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: through group homes but also going through foster care, Biz 256 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: always wanted to be loved. He always felt like he 257 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: was the last to be chosen. He was the last 258 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: to be picked, he was the last to be fed, 259 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: he was the last to be dressed. 260 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: And he was like, don't worry, we're gonna be the first. 261 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: You watch and see what happens. We're gonna be the first. 262 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: So nobody knew the backstory of what we were going 263 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: through in order to even become this, Like before the 264 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: Rock Sands Chantay, in the Rock Stands Revenge, you know, 265 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: nobody knows about you know, forty second Street and being 266 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: night kids and different things like that. 267 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: And with Biz, you just knew that it's something magic. 268 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: Cool about him, Like literally when you looked at him, 269 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: because he wasn't a nice looking one and and he 270 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 3: smiled like as if there was bright whites and baby, 271 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: they wasn't and he had a mile and he just 272 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 3: had this whole vibe about him that was just incredible. 273 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: And you say, you know what, his energy and his 274 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: magic rubs off because sometimes we just need that magical 275 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: person next to us, you know what I mean. And 276 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: then he made all of us have that magic. And 277 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 3: I realized, Okay, you know what, I can be that 278 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: magical person for somebody, because Biz was that for me. 279 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: So you become an incredible hype man. But then before 280 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: you know it, you become the front man. 281 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: Was it true that Biz had ownership of part ownership 282 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: of Teletubby's Was that true? That was always a rumor 283 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: that went around, And I was just curious. 284 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: With you mess around with Busy on hab. 285 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: Well, Busy Biz could create some entertaining stories and because 286 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: of that is another reason why he was one of 287 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 3: the greatest entertainers ever. 288 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: So no, I'm not. I don't know, you know what 289 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying, because that's between him and his estate whether 290 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But if that's the case, 291 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: then I'm definitely the purple one. 292 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: As I said, that was one of the one interviews 293 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: I'm upset we missed, right I would always see Biers 294 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: on the road, right because after you know, he rapped, 295 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: he started getting into DJ and heavy and I would 296 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: always see him on the one and I would always say, Yo, 297 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: you gotta come and be like and he would call 298 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: Charlamagne would call myself and that was the one that 299 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: I was like, I would just love to sit down 300 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: and just talk to Biz. 301 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I would love to man. 302 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, like Biz was the connector. I'm 303 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: still with her to this day. He connected me with everybody, 304 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 4: like all of us. Like she shared her platform. Biz 305 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: connected the people the other pieces to go to the puzzle. 306 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: And you know what I'm saying. And like she said, 307 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: his stories, whether they were true or not, it made 308 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: you feel good. 309 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: And that's why everybody, everybody was his friend. 310 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: Everybody everybody like that, you know what I'm saying. So 311 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: you would love the stories because the stories would get 312 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: your attention to pay attention to the talent. And his 313 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 4: talent was he believed. He believed that, like you say, 314 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: the little engine that could, Yes, that was the ultimate 315 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: hip hop little engine that could. Because he didn't wasn't 316 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: the best rapper, he wasn't the best beat box, he 317 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: wasn't all of these things, but he'd loved to do it, 318 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: and he said, we're gonna be stars. We're gonna be stars. 319 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Watch Watch. 320 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: And when he said it, you know, as much as 321 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: you would say yeah right, it put that battery in 322 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 4: your back to say let's go, let's make it happen. 323 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: And then we put we all did you know I'm saying, 324 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 4: because everybody got their super talent, we like you know, 325 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 4: we combined forces and we became that juice crawl star 326 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: thing like the super Friends super Friends, we came together. 327 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 4: Everybody got their own talent, and we respected each other's talents, 328 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 4: but we all pushed each other to be better. 329 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: The one thing that I was always bothered me about 330 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: Legends is I felt like you guys crawl so everybody 331 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: else could run, right, And I always felt like I 332 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: love the flowers, and I'm sure you guys love the 333 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: flowers too, But I always felt like the industry did 334 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: you guys dirty right As DJ's producers, rappers, performers, you know, 335 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: they ate and made billions of dollar off this thing 336 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: that you put on your back and did it for 337 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: the culture and did it because this came from the heart. 338 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: And I don't feel like you guys ever made the 339 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: right money for that, you know what I mean? Because 340 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: you still have to put your kids through school and 341 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: your kids through school. How did that always make you 342 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: feel like the industry did you dirty? Like you never 343 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: got what you was deserved? 344 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: You know? 345 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: For me, I think I might be one of the 346 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: only ones that was not angry, Like I just was 347 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: never angry. I felt like, what I'm supposed to have, 348 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to have. What I'm going to get, I'm 349 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: going to get it is destined, and so I never 350 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: looked at. 351 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: It like, Okay, well, why aren't they picking me? And 352 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: why don't I have this? And why can't I have that? 353 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: Instead, I would look at some of the things that 354 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: some of the artists would go through, because if we 355 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: look at it now, like if we tally up everything 356 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: right now, I'm in a better position than anybody that 357 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 3: was hot in the eighties, and that's both financially, mentally physically. 358 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: At this point in my life, I am better than 359 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: most of them, if not all of them. And the 360 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: reason why is because I was willing to wait patiently 361 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: until the universe said here, you can have it. I 362 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: came in the industry at fifteen, at fifteen years old, 363 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: you give me a million dollars, it's gonna be gone 364 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: in a year. Why because I'm gonna want a car. 365 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna want this, I'm gonna want that. I'm gonna 366 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: want these things. Okay, So now you give me a 367 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: million dollars in my fifties, I'm gonna maintain that for 368 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: the rest of my life. Why because I've already been 369 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: put in a great position. And when we talk about 370 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: being put in a great position, you know, I'm on 371 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: I have a show. 372 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: You know, have a nice day. L cuj's Rock the 373 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: Bells Radio and I have a show. 374 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: And we started off with thirty thousand listeners per day 375 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: and now we're reaching millions per day. So he had 376 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: el seen the vision and was like, look, your voice 377 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: and your storytelling and your experience, we need to have 378 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: you on every day. So he set us up. So 379 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 3: automatically I went and got cool V. Because there's no 380 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: way that I could be in any position of growth 381 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: and not look behind me and see one of my 382 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: Juice crew members, like they have to. 383 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: Be in the room. I need them in the room. 384 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: That is the energy and the magic that comes along 385 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: with being loyal to each other. So when I look 386 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: over and I see V I know I'm going to 387 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: have a nice day. I know I'm going to have 388 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 3: a great day. So because of that, the success of that, 389 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: and then ALON comes to Paid in Full Foundation, which 390 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: NOS is a part of, and because of the Horowitzes, 391 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: and they say, well, listen, you know what. 392 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: We want to sit you down, and this is what 393 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: we want to tell you. 394 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: For everything that you've done in the industry, for all 395 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: of these years that you've done, all this hard work, 396 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: and you've been overlooked and you've been overshadowed and all 397 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: of these other things, we have something for you and 398 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: we want you to know that this is what you 399 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: can have. So literally, they made me a millionaire. So 400 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: when they made me a millionaire, I remember doing an 401 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: interview and they said, well, now that you have the 402 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: money which I would have never saved from then, the 403 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: money that I would have never had from then, you know, 404 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: from everything that went on between people going through drugs 405 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: and different things like that. 406 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: Now that you have this money, what is it that 407 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: you do now? 408 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 3: And the first thing I said is sleep, because I 409 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: never knew what it was to sleep. I knew what 410 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: it was to rest. I knew what it was to 411 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: take a nap. I knew what it was to catch 412 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: a quickie, that type of thing, but I never knew 413 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: what it was to sleep. Since I was fifteen years old, 414 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: I never knew what it was like to just get 415 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: under the covers and sleep. So when I received the check, 416 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: I slept, you know, And I told them, I said, like, 417 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 3: for the first time in my life, I know what it's. 418 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Like sleep and not worry and. 419 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: Not worry and not have to be woke up because 420 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: now I got something to do a job I have 421 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 3: to do, you know. 422 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Now do I get up to go to work? Absolutely? 423 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: I love my job. I do what I do. 424 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 3: But the main thing is I now know what it 425 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: is to sleep. And so some people don't understand, you 426 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like for me, that's what it was. 427 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 3: So that money brought me some. 428 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: Sweet Yeah, well I was mad a little bit, as 429 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: I was pissed because you think about it like this, right, 430 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: I gotta blame myself first and foremost for signing contracts 431 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: and not getting the lawyer, just being happy to be 432 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 4: in the room. But we was teenagers because at that time. 433 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: And I don't mean to cut you up, but let 434 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: me just say this. At that time, you don't know 435 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: the difference between your signature and the autograph, So anytime 436 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: paper is put in front of you, you automatically sign 437 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: it because you don't know the difference between your signature 438 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: and not that young not exactly, So what you're doing 439 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: is you're just signing, you know what I mean. 440 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: And now, to this day, I have never received a 441 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 4: royalty for no record I ever made. And we got 442 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: double platinum, platinum, goal, all of that, and we find 443 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 4: out later that all of these people are making money 444 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 4: off our music. And that's cool. But when you're trying 445 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: to shut me out, cut me in, find a way 446 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: do something. You've been making money for thirty something years 447 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: off of my legacy, biz, legacy, chante, whoever. You know 448 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like our whole crew, none of us 449 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: had our publishing right, none of us had all of 450 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 4: these things right. So I'm not crying about it now 451 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: because I always end up on my feet, you know 452 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like we smile every day. I love 453 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: right now. I'm not dwelling on the past, but it's 454 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: still money being broken down. Even if you can't give 455 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: me what you owe me from back, then, break it 456 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: down with me right now. 457 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: You getting it. 458 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: You just supporting your families. I got great grandkids, not grandkids. 459 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: I'm not grandkids, got kids. So while we can't get 460 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: this money right now, and I'm not upset because we're 461 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: working on the project right now, and I just need 462 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: people to get these investors together to make this project happen, 463 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: because I know it's ready, I know it's right, and 464 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: we're gonna do it. 465 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 5: Well, let me just say, somebody's great grandfather, you look good. 466 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. 467 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 5: Going back to what you were talking about about the movie, 468 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 5: the Rock Saint Chante movie, right, the young lady that 469 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 5: played you, I know you said that she was right 470 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 5: out of acting school. 471 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: She just graduated out of Carnegie Mellon. 472 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 5: Just just graduated, right, And you said there was a 473 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 5: lot of things that you didn't put it in because 474 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: you didn't want to subject her today. 475 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: You didn't want to party through that. 476 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: Was that also because you felt like she couldn't she 477 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 5: was so fresh and knew that she wouldn't be able 478 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: to embody all of that trauma. Your story is yes 479 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 5: enough to like you said, people were crying on set 480 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 5: every day while you're telling them the stories. Do you 481 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 5: feel that she could really convey that with her being 482 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: such a fresh like right out of school. 483 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: Well, you know, honestly, she she won Breakout Actor of 484 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: the Year from Sun Dance from my movie so amazing. 485 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: It was never a question of her ability, it was how. 486 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: Would they see her? 487 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: Like I sat back and I noticed that there were 488 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: a lot of actors that had played parts that were 489 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: never able to get out of them. So if she 490 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: played rock sand chante, you know what I'm saying that, 491 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: and baby my numbers was high like chaps, okay, And 492 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: I didn't want to put her in all of those positions, 493 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Literally, you know, I didn't 494 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: want to do that to her, and so I just 495 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure that when they viewed her, they 496 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: saw the talent that had to be played emotionally in 497 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: every part, rather than have her play something else. 498 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: So that's really what I felt from that. 499 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 6: I wanted to go back to something you mentioned too, 500 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 6: with the rock the Bells of elkuj Yes, I was 501 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 6: reading about. I think this was when he was advertising 502 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 6: last year's show, The Owner like you got your minority 503 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 6: owner in the brand too. 504 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Yes, that is amazing as well. 505 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 6: And I think that I think a lot of people 506 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 6: don't talk about that part of what he does with 507 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 6: Rock Thebells and how important it is and that being 508 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 6: a foundation. 509 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about his first. 510 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 6: Phone call to you about that and kind of how 511 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 6: that felt and how it came together. 512 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: Well, how this whole thing came about in order for 513 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: me to have to have a nice day. Show was 514 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: I did an interview, and I was doing an interview 515 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: about the movie. And I was doing the interview with 516 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: l And We're sitting there and we are talking and 517 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: we are laughing, and he is saying, you know what, 518 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: I feel like, you're interviewing me. 519 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: He said, you need to be doing this. 520 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: He said, I'm getting ready to start up this company 521 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: and I'm getting ready to start this radio station. He said, Look, 522 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: this is what we're gonna do. B. That's how he does. 523 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 3: He goes, that's what we're gonna do. 524 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: He still be locking the lips. Yeah up here he 525 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: was doing it. Yeah, yeah, he still does. He's like, yeah, 526 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: so look this is what we're gonna do. B. 527 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make you part owner, which means everything you 528 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: work for and how you build this, you're gonna see 529 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: the benefits from it, you know, And not that that 530 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 3: was more of an incentive for me to work harder 531 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: because I was gonna work harder for him anyway. Regardless, 532 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: I was gonna do this. I'm gonna always put my 533 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: best foot forward. You're my brother, I trust you. This 534 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: is what you say we're gonna do. This is what 535 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: we're gonna do. But just know that the checks on 536 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: the back is a nice incentive, you know what I'm 537 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: saying that that's a nice little come along to know 538 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: that you're an owner. But then it also makes you 539 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: know the importance of how we represent it. So yeah, 540 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: so definitely. So the phone call was like it wasn't 541 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: even a phone call, it was a face to face 542 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 3: and literally I left La. When we did get to 543 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: New York, he had already set it up for me. 544 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: He was like, look, I know that you you had 545 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: not really done radio, and this is not something like 546 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: I didn't know how to work a board and everything else. 547 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: So they had to get a whole team together for me. 548 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: And getting a team together was like a difference because 549 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 3: I didn't just come on as talent. It was like, Okay, 550 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 3: we're going to get everything that you need and all 551 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: you have to do is be you. And that's exactly 552 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 3: what he allowed me to be. You know, and being 553 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: an owner and having others that are also owners is 554 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 3: just incredible because it makes you say, like. 555 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: Look what we've built. You know, look what his vision saw. 556 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: And he understood the importance of ownership because he was like, 557 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: you've done so many things, and you've built so many 558 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: things for other people. Now it's your turn to say, look, 559 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 3: this is what I built and this is what we have. 560 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: And I thank him for that, Like literally we call 561 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: him to Todd Fowk. 562 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: You see right now, you know what I'm saying, listen 563 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: because everything he said in the beginning, and I wasn't 564 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 4: even there for that. She told me all of that. 565 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 4: But everything that he said in the beginning, what you 566 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 4: see now he said it back then and we've been 567 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: on the radio for five years now. He said it then. 568 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: I love it about the importance of NAS, right, you said, 569 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: NAS made you a millionaire. Yes, talk about the importance 570 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: of NAS because I feel like NAS's is an l 571 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: Both of them are like the forgotten artists. And when 572 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean the forgotten. We all know they get busy 573 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: or they we all know they got classic albums. We 574 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: all know they get nice, but I don't think we 575 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: talk about them enough. So talk about the importance of 576 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: NAS to you. 577 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: And you know, with Nas, it's like watching my little 578 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: brother grow up and be exactly what I knew he 579 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: was gonna be. You know, people would say to me 580 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: all the time, like, why didn't you ever say about 581 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: how you and Nas met? And I said, because it 582 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 3: was genuine. That's me talking to my brother. That's not 583 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 3: a conversation that I'm going to tell everybody. I'm not 584 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: going to tell you every time I tell my sisters 585 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 3: or my brothers that I'm gonna beat them up if 586 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: they don't do right, I'm not gonna do that. And 587 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: so he chose to reveal that to the public. He 588 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: did that first in his documentary. He was like, listen, 589 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 3: and then Sean Tay said this to me, and it 590 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 3: made me understand that because you can see even with 591 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 3: your your siblings or even those who are in your 592 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: neighborhood because they grown up in Queensbridge, you know where 593 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: there's fifty teen tenants on paper, but thirty thousand any 594 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: given day because somebody's always living with somebody, somebody's always on, 595 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: somebody couching the projects. 596 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: But that was like a little city, but we all 597 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: knew each other. 598 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: And I remember seeing Nas and saying like, Yo, you're 599 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 3: gonna be great, Like it's just something about you and 600 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: I know you are, so stay away from them before 601 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: I get you, you know. And then he was like, 602 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna rhyme, and I was like, yeah, but you 603 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: make sure you have it together because at one time 604 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: he wanted to rhyme, but he also wanted to make 605 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 3: sure that his crew k'n. And I'm saying like, so 606 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: you're just writing for everybody, right, you know, so I 607 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: need you to just do this for you because you 608 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: are going to be special. There is something about you 609 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: and I know it because I've always had to be 610 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: my own hype person to tell myself like your listen, 611 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: you're gonna be special. And the same energy that I 612 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: would get from Bis like saying like we're gonna be 613 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: you know the connection. You know who's gonna be something. 614 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: And sometimes you can sit back you just honestly don't 615 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: want to say it, but you know who's not gonna 616 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: make it. 617 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: You know who's not gonna make it. You can bring 618 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: them along, but you know they not gonna make it. Yeah, 619 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 620 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you ever thought about signings back then? 621 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 3: No, And I'm gonna tell you why the record company 622 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: was already not paying me. They weren't treating me right. 623 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: I lived in the hood literally, you know I lived. 624 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: I lived in the area where Coov came to see 625 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: me and Kov got hurt. That's up to him to 626 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: elaborate on it. But I was living in Newark at 627 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: the time, and I remember Kov coming to see me 628 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: literally to bring me money because the record company wasn't 629 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: doing what it was supposed to do. And so I 630 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: would never take anyone and bring them into what I'm 631 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: going through. That's almost like someone who's in an abuse 632 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: situation and then you bring somebody else alongs for them 633 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: to get abused to, you know what I'm saying. Instead, 634 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: I'll just take all this abuse myself, you know, and 635 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: then whatever I get from it or benefit from it, 636 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: I'll come back and I'll share it with you. But 637 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: I don't want to see you go through this. I 638 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: want you to take a different path. I see something 639 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: better for you. So even when they would come to 640 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: me like, yo, I need to get signed, not to 641 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: this label. Oh I want to do not this one, 642 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so that's the reason 643 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: why I never thought signing. But also too, I was 644 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 3: never taught the business. You know, they gave me the business, okay, 645 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: but I was never taught the business, and so because 646 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: of that, I didn't know about writers and publishing and 647 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 3: everything else. So even now because I've never received royalties 648 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: and I've never received any of those, and it's crazy 649 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: because we were just they had just sent me this 650 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: plaque and everything else. Let me know that rox Sands 651 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: Revenge is certified platinum. And this was a year when 652 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: they were like, oh, no rappers are going platinum. It's like, listen, 653 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 3: Roxannes Revenge certified platinum. And for me to sit back 654 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: and say, well, you know, I still didn't receive royalties 655 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: from it, but the universe has paid me so well. 656 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a breast cancer survivor. My kids are 657 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: good with everything that I exposed them to. My son 658 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: is amazing. You know, I'm married to a handsome husband. 659 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: Bullhead bowl legs. 660 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: Shut you know. 661 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: So one of those things like when I sit back, 662 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: I would have never thought that my life would be 663 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: as good as it is now, you know. So I'm comfortable, 664 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: though there's a lot of things that I should pursue 665 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: and go after. 666 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: I was legally, though, you don't ever just want to 667 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 6: now you got you got the lawyer of money. Now, 668 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 6: you never just want to figure it out because I've 669 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 6: not coming you. 670 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 671 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: I ain't crying about it, but I damn letting people 672 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: know that. Listen, big shout to Isaac Kay's son, because 673 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: I just listened to him talk about copyright terminations and 674 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: all of these things like that and bringing that awareness. 675 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: So we never had that, you know. 676 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: What I mean. 677 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: And it's out here now. So any artists coming up 678 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: looking to paperwork, don't sign nothing without a lawyer. I 679 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: don't care if it's your parent, did your parent ain't 680 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 4: in the music business. Have a lawyer on hand. Because 681 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: I saw my contract for two hundred and fifty dollars. 682 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: For a beeper. 683 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: No, no, I bought a beeper. I bought a people. No, 684 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: I bought a people with the two fifty I mean, 685 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: but I went back in the room, I said, listen, man, 686 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: I got to go get a deeper right now. So 687 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: y'all ain't got nothing else I can sign. They sign. 688 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 4: I signed the record deal, so they gave me five 689 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: hundred dollars. I ain't getting nothing. And that's just being 690 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: you know, at the time, at the moment, because we 691 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: living for right now. We never live for the future, 692 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know, luckily I've 693 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: been able to navigate through this thing called life and 694 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 4: make it. But man, it's been hard. You know what 695 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: I mean, big shot to my brother that held my 696 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: ass up for the last twenty years, big prev. You 697 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So we make it. But all 698 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: of those mistakes we made, we don't want nobody to 699 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: make the mistakes no more. And were not crying about 700 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 4: the mistakes. We do want our money, I know. She 701 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 4: told mon Yeah, I ain't worried about it because she 702 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 4: got the big check. Can But you know what I'm saying, Listen, 703 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: anybody that can help help, and you can't. Cool. We 704 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: still gonna keep pushing. We got things to. 705 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: Do this Isaac. 706 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: You said, man, he has fan base. I want to 707 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: slow to fan base. Yes, and also you know I'm 708 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 2: one thousand percent into telling me stories, right, Yes, I'm 709 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,959 Speaker 2: a hip hop ad im from Coin, So it's how 710 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: I grew up, is what I saw, it's what I lived, 711 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: and I feel like these stories need to be told 712 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: so much more. You hear these stories when it comes 713 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: to country music, you hear when it comes to pop music, 714 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: and I feel like we should hear it when it 715 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: comes to hip hop because there's so many avengers and 716 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: superheroes that helped me get by and that I was 717 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: excited to. I mean, I remember had to be fifteen 718 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: twenty years ago and you called me to do your 719 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: opening of your ice cream shop. Sure, yeah, I mean 720 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: with things like that, it's just like a different respect, 721 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: and I just want to say thank you for what 722 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: you did for this industry, especially for y'all for me, 723 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's like no other you know 724 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: what I mean. But that's why I told my DJ 725 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: is so close, because I feel like nobody ever fucks 726 00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: with us and they just let us go to the wasistline. 727 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: But that's why I do it so much, because I 728 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: just want people to know that without any of this, 729 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: there would none it would be none of this, you know. 730 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 4: Yes, And that's why I love her because she always 731 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: said even when I couldn't DJ for, she pulled another 732 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 4: person in the crew. She pulled Cane up to DJ for. 733 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 4: She pulled all everybody's been Shante's DJ by far, she's 734 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 4: had I probably had the most DJs in hip hop, 735 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 4: you know. 736 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: Me. 737 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 4: And see, that's what I'm saying is the truth. But 738 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 4: she's never shot away from sharing her platform and whatever 739 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 4: we can get, we can get her all get it together. 740 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: So right now, I'm just so happy to be with 741 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: her right now doing what we're doing. Life is beautiful. 742 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 4: It's beautiful because she's glowing like a mom. 743 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 5: I want to ask you, how do you feel about 744 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: female rap today? 745 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: You know, when I think. 746 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 3: About female rappers today, especially like them being my hip 747 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: hop sisters, of course, there's gonna be some things that 748 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: your sisters do that you're gonna be like, Okay, now, 749 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: I didn't want you to do that. But I also 750 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: understand that when it comes to hip hop, it's a 751 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: reflection of what we're dealing with. 752 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: It's a reflection of society. 753 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: It's a reflection when people say, oh, I remember when 754 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: female rappers used to wear they clothes. 755 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: I remember when women used to wear their clothes, you 756 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 757 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: So you can't just put that on just female rappers 758 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 3: because that's just not the case. And then also too, 759 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: you need to look at it where it's their costume, 760 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: it's their uniform for work. They're not walking around the 761 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: house like that all day, you know, They're not in 762 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: front of their children like that all day. So because 763 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: of that, I think sometimes people really read them wrong 764 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: and don't understand how hard it is. Because if you 765 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: think it's hard being a woman, try being a black woman. 766 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 3: If you think it's hard being a black woman, then try. 767 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: Being a black female rapper. You know what I mean. 768 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: It gets harder as it goes on. The more hats 769 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: you add to it, the more difficult it is. You know, 770 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 3: it's a lot of weight on us on what we 771 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: represent and how we do present ourselves. Now, the thing 772 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 3: that I do love about it is that now they 773 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 3: understand the business. So because they understand the business, they've 774 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 3: taken more control. They say what they're gonna do, what 775 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 3: they're gonna wear, where they're gonna go, you know, and 776 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: hopefully that is the case for most of them. So 777 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: when you see the success that they have now, it's 778 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: an honor for me to sit back and say, you 779 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 3: know what, I started in the parks, so that she's 780 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 3: at the palladium. 781 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: I started at here where she's at the palace. 782 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 3: You know, I was able to battle these men, where 783 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 3: now she doesn't even have to battle anything her most 784 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: her choice now is what burking she's going to carry 785 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: and where she's going to go and what cars she's 786 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: going to get in. And if I had anything to 787 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: do with that, then it's truly an honor for me 788 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 3: because I sit back and I smile. 789 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: You know. I think that's where you see the fact 790 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: that I don't have any. 791 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: Anger, because I don't have any envy for it, no 792 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: pun intendeny. But the main thing is I love to 793 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: see them succeed, and as with anyone, you want to 794 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: see the next generation do better. 795 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: So when they getting these multimillion. 796 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: Dollar deals, I'm like, yeah, that's what you do. You know, 797 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: when they're going up to these awards shows and they're 798 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: speaking their mind without somebody telling them, don't say that. 799 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: Don't get up there and feel that way. You know, 800 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: I love it. So female rappers today, I embrace them all. 801 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. I don't have a favorite. And 802 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: that's not a political answer. 803 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 3: The reason why is because I'm a person who goes 804 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 3: through a lot of different emotions. 805 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: So I might have a Doche day. 806 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: When I'm having a Dochey day, you know what I'm saying, 807 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: it could be my anxiety, you know. But then I 808 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: can also have my Cardi B Days, and you know, 809 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 3: I can have my Megan days, and I can even 810 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: have my Remy days. 811 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: And like Queen Latifa days. 812 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: It just depends on how I'm feeling emotionally when it 813 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: comes to because I'm a person who listens to music emotionally. 814 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 3: So therefore I don't have a favorite because what can 815 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: be a good day is a good day, and what 816 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 3: can be a bad day. 817 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: As a bad day. 818 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 5: And that's the beauty of it, right because each female rapper, 819 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 5: to me these days, it's so different. Everybody not the same. 820 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: And I know you hear the conversations about all rap 821 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: is the same already. Now, everybody's not the same. Like 822 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 5: you said, you got your Doughie days, yeah, you know. 823 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 5: So that's the beauty of what the It's like a 824 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 5: mixed pool, absolutely. 825 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 826 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: How does it feel to see your daughter jumping into music. 827 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: You know what, I love it. 828 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 3: I love it, you know, to see her like when 829 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: my daughter's name is call me Taji, your name is Taji. 830 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 3: And when I get a chance to hear her sing, 831 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: deep down in my heart, I was like, damn, she 832 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: got my voice, thinking like that it would have been 833 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: my voice, you know what I mean, that's my voice. 834 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: And when I look at her physique, I'm like, that's 835 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 3: my body, you know. So I'm that type of mom 836 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: and I love it, and I encourage her. You know, 837 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: she doesn't choose to want to use my support with things. 838 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: And I'm telling her all the time, like listen, I 839 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 3: could get you there. She says no, because I need 840 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 3: to earn it. And I feel honored that the fact 841 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: that I helped her have that in her to want 842 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: to earn it on her own. 843 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's you. Yeah says yeah, Yeah, she definitely is. 844 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: She definitely is. 845 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: So I can sit back and smile, like you can 846 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: see how my face just lights up and writes up 847 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 3: when it comes to her, and seeing all the things 848 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 3: that she does and now even playing me in the movie, 849 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 3: Like anybody that wants to portray rock Sand and Shante, 850 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 3: they must use my daughter or I don't get permission. 851 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I love that you're doing that. Yeah, I listen. 852 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: If it's gonna be me, it's gonna come from me, 853 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 3: It's gonna be me, you know what I mean. So 854 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 3: there's been quite a few projects now that she's been 855 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 3: able to do, like documentaries for other people. They be like, oh, yeah, no, listen, 856 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 3: we would like to have somebody play you know you 857 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: won't you'd like to have my daughter play me? 858 00:35:59,440 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: She's on her. 859 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 6: Do you find yourself being harder on about her actual 860 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 6: business business, like the paperwork because of everything you went 861 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 6: through with paperwork and misunderstanding thing in your career, Like 862 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 6: are you like, no, let mommy do this, like let 863 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 6: me get in there? 864 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 3: No see, because mommy don't know how to do it. 865 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 3: So we just send everything to the lawyers. But what 866 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: I am very on her about is when she goes 867 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: to do certain recordings in certain places. I'm one of 868 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 3: those moms like I don't trust certain situations because I've 869 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 3: seen a lot. 870 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: So when she. 871 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 3: Tells me, oh, I'm going to a studio. What a studio? 872 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: Who he worked with? 873 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 4: What he say? 874 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: You facetied me? 875 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: She'd be like mine, I don't want to put you 876 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: on put me on speaker, or come home, because I 877 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: know what it's like to be out there and not 878 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: have nobody to put on speaker. So then people think 879 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 3: that they can do anything to you. I need them 880 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 3: to know that I'm around the corner, literally, and I 881 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: don't care where she's at. I'm coming because if I'm 882 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 3: not around the corner, then the things that I've done, 883 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: I know somebody who's ran on the corner. 884 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: It was going to come, you know. 885 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: And so sometimes I think she feels like I hover 886 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: over her too much with certain things, but it's a 887 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 3: safety factor. And then when she sees certain things in 888 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 3: the news and stuff like that, she'd be like, yeah, 889 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: my mom, of course, yeah, she would have had a fit. 890 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: And you want them to feel that way, you know, 891 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: you know, did she did that? She's twenty six? 892 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 5: Twenty six? 893 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, twenty six, Yeah, yeah, she's twenty Wait, she 894 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: had thirty. She you was right about everything said she 895 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: was twenty six. 896 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 6: My last question for you, and I'm going back again, 897 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 6: but you've been saying so much. I'm just like all 898 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 6: taking it in that I didn't want to interrupt. You 899 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 6: mentioned earlier about how you honor Biz at his funeral. Yes, 900 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 6: with the thirty six Chambers. 901 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah. 902 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 6: I didn't see it, but I saw reports about it. 903 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 6: And when I read it, knowing, well, not knowing you personally, 904 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 6: but just knowing the history of you guys relationship, I'm like, 905 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 6: why they had to be tough for her? But it 906 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 6: probably like it was y'all's thing, Like I know he 907 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 6: had acted, but jokingly said that he wanted you to 908 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 6: do that. 909 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. 910 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 3: What happened was we were sitting inside of a movie 911 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 3: theater on forty second Street and it was a three 912 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 3: for one movie theater, and that's where, back in the 913 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: days you could see three Chinese flicks and they would 914 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 3: play all night long. 915 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: And we were in there and it. 916 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: Was thirty six Chambers, it was The Five Deadly Venoms, 917 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 3: and it was Monkey King Kung Fu. 918 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: And the reason why I remember that is because it 919 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: played all night, you know. 920 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: And so we were sitting there and I had my 921 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: feet across his, and he was like, yeah, you know, 922 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 3: when I die, this is what And now, mind you, 923 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 3: we're teenagers and we're talking about dying. Wow, you know, 924 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: at this time, we're teenagers and we're talking about dying, 925 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 3: and he was like, when I die, that's what I 926 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: want you to do at my funeral. 927 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: I want you to come in there, and this is 928 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: what I wanted. 929 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, so at my funeral, I want 930 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 3: you to come running in at mine and be like teacher, teacher, 931 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 3: why you leave me? You know, like that's exactly what 932 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: I wanted to happen. And so I remember my family 933 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: seeing me with this karate suit and they was like. 934 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, mine, you're not going to do this character. 935 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 4: We didn't think she was going, you know. 936 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: What, cause I was ready. I was gonna be. 937 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: I was gonna put the gee on, I was getting 938 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 3: the belt. I was coming down ready because this is 939 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 3: my brother. I gave him him my word, and I'm 940 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: doing this to the grave, like this is what I'm 941 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: gonna do. And so they were like, no, you can't 942 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 3: have that. So somebody had took the suicide. I had 943 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: on my regular clothes. But what I did was I 944 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 3: took a sheet from the hotel and when I walked 945 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: up there, I wrapped a sheet around me like a 946 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 3: monk and draped it across me, and then I delivered 947 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 3: the speech from thirty six chambers. You know, and that 948 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 3: was so that he could understand that my. 949 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Brother, you did well. 950 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 3: You know, you left me cut Master Coovie, because it's 951 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: always like they always want to leave you something. And 952 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: so I was like, you left me cut Master Coovie, 953 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: and my brother you did well. And I felt good 954 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: and I was able to sleep at night regards to 955 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: how anybody felt, regards to what cameras caught it, regards 956 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 3: to what anybody thought. 957 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: That was my word to my brother, and my word 958 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: to me is everything. Yeah, he wanted you to do that, 959 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: and there you go. And so we did it, and 960 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: you know what, I was thankful for it. 961 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 3: Honestly, he still left us too soon, but I was 962 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 3: thankful that we got a chance. 963 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: To grow up and do that because we were. 964 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: Talking about doing that as teenagers. But you well into 965 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 3: our fifties and be able to do that still made 966 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: me feel good, like, Wow, we really lived a lifetime. 967 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: We appreciate y'all for joining us. 968 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: Coolvie. 969 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 4: I don't even think I was gonna see on Mike today. 970 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 5: Listen. 971 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 2: Thank y'all legendary. Well, we appreciate you guys again. And 972 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: you know, anytime you're doing anything, come on up. When 973 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: your daughter is ready to play a song, Come on. 974 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: Up, absolutely absolutely, that's the Breakfast Club. 975 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 4: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. 976 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: Breakfast Club