1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: I saw Jimmy jam and Cherry Lewis have a booth 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: on television of recording booth, so I said, I'm gonna 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: make one of those. I took all the clothes out 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: of my two by four closet and like cut the 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: window of it. Was that it was my mom and 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: dad saying, Okay, cool, you know you really want to 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: do this recording thing. You change your bedroom. Now, let's 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: move the cars out of the garage and we're gonna 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: build you a studio in our home. 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: So that's a message for every single parent out there. 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: Let your kid be creative, encourage their creativity. Adam Blackstone 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: is today's guests on Naked. It's the greatest sponson entertainment. 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Connect it with Kerry Champion. 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: And Carry Chappi is to be a champion of Champion 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: and Carrie Chappi and the cart and the car. 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: With you, Oscars, Bet Awards, Soul Trained Awards, Super Bowl 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: Half Time shows. These are major award shows and you 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: want to know who's behind the music of every single 19 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: one of these shows. As of late, today's guest Adam Blackstone, 20 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: I have the privilege of knowing him in a very 21 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: comfortable and very casual way. But he is truly the professional, 22 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: the ultimate professional, and I'm grateful that he had decided 23 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: to bless me not only on my TV show, but 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: today he is on the podcast and he's dropping gym's 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: as he should. But the question was this, I'm really 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: curious because I have that in me, that hustle muscle 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: that he has. But I wonder if there's ever a 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: time where you say I've done it, I've done enough, 29 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: or you have been able to stop and appreciate all 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: you've done and not feel the need to want more. 31 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: I can't say that truly ambitious people ever feel the 32 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: need to stop. It's just their drive, It's that engine, 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: that motor that they have, and Adam is truly one 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: of these people. But today we talk about the genesis, 35 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: his origin story, how he started in the business, how 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: his upbringing contributed heavily into his creativeness. He has a 37 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: special word for creators, all creators, not just in the 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: music industry. And then at the end of the day, 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: he's looking towards what's next in terms of when it's 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: all said and done, everybody relax and enjoy. Musical director 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Artist Adam black. 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: Star, Champion and Cry Chepian and care with chat. 43 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: I want to begin with what a wonderful is it? 44 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Could it be a ten year run that you're on 45 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: a five year run? You are everywhere doing all the things. 46 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: And it's really interesting because the first time we sat 47 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: down to talk, I said, what is a musical director? 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 49 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: And so first, by definition, before I explain to everyone 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: why you're such a big deal, tell me, by definition 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: what a musical director is. 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: I think the best way for me to explain is 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: everything live music oriented, that transference from the studio to 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: the stage. You know what I'm saying. Like as far 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: as it being when you wrote, when the artist records 56 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the song, we want to now present it live for 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: an audience to watch, for an audience to listen to 58 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: to have that experience. I have to translate those those 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: moments from the studio to now to making a live experience. 60 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: But now for what I do and how I do 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: it and where I do it, it's more sometimes about dance, 62 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: my music, lining up with the dancers. It's more about 63 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: the video screens. When I'm doing Super Bowl, It's more 64 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: about it's more about the television shots and how I'm transitioning. 65 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: So it moved from a strictly music place to a 66 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: full out creative process. So that's what a good that's 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: what a good MD just what a is or. 68 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know about the other ones, but the 69 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: good ones do that. Here's my question for you. You 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: have said, especially according to research, that you credit your 71 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: love of music to your family. Did you grow up 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 2: in a musical household? 73 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely. My dad was and still is a church organist, 74 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: what we would call today like a wedding man singer 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: type joe. He did weddings, bar mitched, was jazz clubs, restaurants, 76 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: church bay quits, all playing the keys and singing. My 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: mom was in the choirs and uncles are in the choir. 78 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: My uncle got a record deal when I was like 79 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: eight years old as a gospel group. They was like 80 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: the gospel Joe to see to me? So I was 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: And now for real, the boys, the boy I thought 82 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: they were, I know no better. I was like, listen, 83 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: they got they got the church girls is following them 84 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: around from church to church to all that. Before I 85 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: met KC. It was my uncle for self for show 86 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: for show, okay, but not so growing up growing up 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: like that, and then you know, I think a big 88 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: A big part of my success, as well as my 89 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: dad being a musician, allowed me to have the grace 90 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: to pursue a non traditional job in my household. A 91 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: lot of times black you know, they passed down like 92 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: you gotta do this, you gotta do that, we gotta 93 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: make it. This is what it is. And I had 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: the untraditional path having a parent as an untraditional list 95 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: as well, so that allowed me to just kind of 96 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: pursue dreams and think think big, dream big, you know 97 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: what I mean, and trust God. And it was just like, 98 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have a structure set going out 99 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: into the world. So when I moved to Philly from 100 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: New Jersey, it was just like, yo, I can do anything, 101 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, I didn't know if 102 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: that was music for video games. I was a gamer. 103 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know if that was music for theater. I 104 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: didn't know if that was, you know, me playing jazz. 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: On my life, I met the roots, met a mayor 106 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: and that kind of changed my life too. But then 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: the full circle moment is like when I'm doing these 108 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: movie scores and stuff, I know I'm kind of speaking 109 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: through it, but it all goes back to just the 110 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: love of music, and what I enjoy happens to not 111 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: be genre or specific. You know what I mean. 112 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: I'm really curious about something you said that is really 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: it's special. You said that because your father was a musician, 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: it gave you the flexibility and freedom to pursue a 115 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: non traditional career, especially at a black household, because if 116 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: they're like, go to school, get a good job. And 117 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: what you're saying is that you were encouraged to be 118 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: a creative. And what other ways did your family encourage 119 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: you to be a creative And what did that look like? 120 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: It looked very untraditional. My parents allowed me to pull 121 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: the clothes out of my closet because I saw Jimmy 122 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: jam and Terry Lewis have a booth on television, of 123 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: recording booth, so I said, I'm gonna make one of those. 124 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: I took all the clothes out of my two by 125 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: four closet and like cut the window. It was that. 126 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: It was my mom and dad saying, Okay, cool, you 127 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: know you really want to do this recording thing. You 128 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: change your bedroom. Now, let's move the cars out of 129 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: the garage and we're gonna build you a studio in 130 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: our home, you know what I mean. It was my 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: mom and dad driving me to band competitions, you know, 132 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: during high schoo because YO, don't get it twisted like 133 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: me being the bed geek. I was lebron on it, 134 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was getting flown all 135 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: over the world, you know, going to college visits and like, yo, 136 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: you should play in our band, and the bands just 137 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: picking me up. I flew to the youth, I flew 138 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: to North Texas, I flew the Baylor, you know, Berkeley. 139 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: It was like you know what I mean, like it was. 140 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: It was really like a thing. And so you know, 141 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: my mom and dad finding the resources to do that, 142 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, definitely gave me a jot in my back 143 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: to actually be great, you know what I mean. 144 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: How wonderful, how absolutely wonderful to grow up in a 145 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: household that encourages the difference. I feel like it's why 146 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: you say you do all genres of music. You have 147 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: such an e collective taste. How would you describe you 148 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: and more specifically you've worked with You said they had 149 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: an open mic, night, quested, quest love did and the 150 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: roots and that really helped encourage you, especially being from Philly, 151 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 2: Delaware area, doing that, living that lifestyle. But what was 152 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 2: it about all types of music that you felt like 153 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: you could really relate to? 154 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: What do you hear? What do you feel? That's a 155 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: great question, Carrie. I don't know if I ever thought 156 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: about it like that, about what I hear? You know 157 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: what I did think though I wanted, you know, I 158 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: love being the man behind the artists, behind the music. 159 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: But I like pop music straight up, you know what 160 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like so in a weird, weird way. As 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: much as I model a lot of what I do 162 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: after quest, I'm not necessarily the encyclopedia that he is 163 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: that dives super deep. Because I listened to the radio. 164 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: I like Drake like, I like Garth Brooks, I like 165 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, uh, Jennifer Hudson, Like I like pop music. 166 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like neo, I like 167 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: justin Timberlay, you know what I mean. I like Nikkia. 168 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: But I so, you know, I was always like, let 169 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: me take the soul elements from what I've learned here 170 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: and incorporate them into pop music because at the time 171 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: Philly was booming as well. It was the neo soul era. 172 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it was just the passion 173 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: behind the music that everybody was coming to Philly to 174 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: try and get, you know what I mean. And so 175 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: I got my first opportunity, bigger opportunity being with you 176 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Scott and music soul child who worked from Philly. But 177 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: at the same time, all over the world people were 178 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: looking for that sound. You know what I mean. It's 179 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: so rich, it's so rich, it's ten, it's so rich, 180 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: it's soulful, is warm, it's colorful. You know, Jill always 181 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: talked about seeing colors when she sings and writes, you know. 182 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: And then at the same time, Meshing met this young 183 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: kid from Chicago with this pink polo shirt and he 184 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: was super soulful as a producer named Kanye West. And 185 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: then you know, his sound transcended pop and hip hop 186 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: as well. So it's like I was actually forward thinking, 187 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: didn't even know I was what I was doing, but like, 188 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: let me infuse myself in this soul music, knowing that 189 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: this new soulful producer, and then you you know, fast forward, 190 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: you get him making beats for people like Brandy and 191 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: making beats for da with Daft Punk, and you know 192 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: me meaning Pharrell and you know nyr D, but then 193 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Pharrell making beats to it. You know, Nile Roger isn't 194 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: making beachs for Gwin step Fini. So it was like 195 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: everybody was searching for that soul and I just so 196 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: happened to be what that live element meant for a 197 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: lot of the artists. So I was cool doing pop music. 198 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of it at all. I didn't let 199 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: the color of my skin and how I looked affect 200 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: what rooms I walked into and be excellent, because you know, 201 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: when you walk in with your head held high and 202 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: knowing what you're doing, they can't help but respect you. 203 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying at that time, you know, hmm, 204 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say fifteen years ago I was I had 205 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: the coke signed already from like a Jay and from Yay. 206 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: And because you have, you know, with everybody, presumably every 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: really not everybody in that sense, but just every big 208 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 2: name people that are and even smaller names. But you 209 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: have worked with You've worked with the luminaries of music 210 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 2: in every genre. How do how do you how do 211 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: you make your name? Is it the jay Z moment? 212 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Because you were on tour with him, and you were 213 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: you get the base. 214 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Right, that was like a big moment was yeah, a 215 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: mere quest was the musical director. You know what, I 216 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: have a weird Yeah. Thought process about me making my 217 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: name was really about being everywhere. Like I don't know 218 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: if it was just one thing, you know, Arguably, you 219 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: could say chappelle Black Party kind of like made me 220 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more visible. You could say Jay Z's 221 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: fade the Black Movie concert made me a little more visible. 222 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: You could say I did very early early episodes of 223 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: The Tonight Show when the roots first first got the 224 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: gig or whatever. But it was really about being like, man, 225 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: that dude is everywhere more than it is, like more 226 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: than it was one specific thing, you know what I'm saying. 227 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: And again that's encouragement by my family. That's that's a 228 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: supportive you know, family, supportive wife that was just like yo, 229 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: go do everything. And so I doing clubs and jazz gigs, 230 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: but at the same time taking the train in New 231 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: York to Jay Z rehearsal, you know what I'm saying. 232 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: And then I was like out on tour with Jay 233 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: but then coming home and writing out charts for the 234 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: local theater just to try to do that, which put 235 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: me in like a movie space too that I that 236 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: my counterparts at the time couldn't do because they may 237 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: have not been as musically tech savvy as I was 238 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: learning how to read or write music from college. 239 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have a hustle muscle that is undeniable. 240 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: It's different, it's different, it's different, and you got that. 241 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: You got that too. It though, because you know, I'm 242 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: liable to see you on thirteen different. 243 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: Different different networks absolutely and speaking very different things like 244 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: I can speak to the black experience, I can talk politics, 245 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: I can do sports, I can do it all, and 246 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 2: I don't think that would limit ourselves. But I really 247 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: am fascinated about how you came into my atmosphere and 248 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: then I felt like, once you were in my atmosphere, 249 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: I saw you everywhere, And I feel that's how people 250 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: feel like you see to meet you once and then 251 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: and now you're alert and you're aware, most. 252 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Recently about aware that you know we got that dream car. 253 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: Then you just see it driving down the street every time, 254 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: you like, yeah, yeah, you do get Yeah. 255 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: I also think I also think this is funny. I'm 256 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: gonna go by by just a list of achievements, because 257 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: if you're listening, you've already ascertained that he's worked with 258 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: everybody big in the business in some capacity. But we 259 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: talked uh about the day after the super Bowl. You 260 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: did arguably to me, you were the musical director for 261 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: one of the two of the if not never mind 262 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: all of them, some some legendary super Bowl performances, Like 263 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: I can't even I'm like, you know, that's not even fair. 264 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: All of them you've done, You've done it for the 265 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: last five But I would love to talk about the 266 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: West Coast Hip Hop super Bowl performance, which was legendary. 267 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: Then you had everybody guessing about Rihanna, And not only 268 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: do we look back on that now, I know as 269 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: a woman, I look back on that now and say, 270 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what she was. 271 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: Doing or thinking, Yeah, going through right, going through as. 272 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: A pregnant woman performing and people wanted her to spin 273 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: on her head, and I'm all like, do you know 274 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: how difficult it was for her just to even elevate, 275 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: to get up that high. 276 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: And perform equilibrium? Yeah, her, she wanted to. 277 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: At one point I was like, she don't throw up 278 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: because this is tough. And she's still giving her all 279 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: to everybody. 280 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? For sure, Yeah, for sure. 281 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: I those two moments specifically, definitely, I ain't gonna say 282 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: made me a household name. But it's like, you know, now, 283 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: I go to the All Star and they're like yo, 284 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: adam oh, and it feels good because like number one 285 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: is for the culture, you know, Number two my goal. 286 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I think I told you this before, but my goal 287 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: for the West Coast Hip Hop super Bowl was to 288 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: not let it just be about black excellence. I think 289 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: I wanted people who were not fans of hip hop 290 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: to leave that show or leave watching the show being like, 291 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: I respect it. It is just as genius as what 292 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen did, what Billy Joe, what what Mick Jagger 293 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: could do. And think we achieved that, like absolutely absolutely. 294 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: We had no hiccups, we had no violence, we had 295 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: no no no, no, no TIFFs. It was it was 296 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: just a great, great experience. I was able to leave 297 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: that experience and win an Emmy for Best Musical rab Relations. 298 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: I was about to say, you got it. You think 299 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: what you did, you accomplished the mission. It was accomplished 300 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: in the sense that West Coast hip hop is mainstream music. 301 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: When I saw these fifty and sixty year old white 302 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: women dancing in a living room on ig and TikTok, 303 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: they were going crazy and it's exactly what we would 304 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: have wanted but hadn't imagined that it was possible. It 305 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: felt very special just for us, but it was for everybody, 306 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: and you were able to. 307 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: It was definitely for everybody. It was definitely for everybody. 308 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: We accomplished that, and I think even in the boom 309 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: just to see the response and and honestly, man that 310 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: that Jay Z he just is such a gus because 311 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure he knew this then but I didn't. But 312 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: he has opened the door with that being as successful 313 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: as it was Doctor Dre as well. But I'm talking 314 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: as Jay as a producer and the Rock Nation as 315 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: a producer has opened the door for the NFL and 316 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: even other of the five majors to really embrace hip 317 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: hop and say, people will support this, people will buy this, 318 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: and so you know, we then we get to Utah 319 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: right for NBA All Star, Yeah, which is my favorite, 320 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: and then you do Afro Beats and then we did 321 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: Afro Beats in Utah, Carrie, I thought that was at 322 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: All Star. I thought that was one of the most 323 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: far fetched ideas when it was on paper. And this 324 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: has nothing against Tim's one of my favorite Bernard are 325 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: you lead to? But I was just like wait what? 326 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: And then it worked. We saw the global capability of 327 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: what our people, how we impact the world. 328 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: You know what price because our culture is in everything 329 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: and it's usually co opted and changed into theirs. But 330 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: we need to know, we own that. 331 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: We shouldn't be surprised. But we are still made to 332 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: feel like the minority at times. And I gotta be honest, 333 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: working for a corporation, matter what corporation I'm talking about, 334 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: we are still not the majority. So it's like when 335 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: when they embrace us at times, it's like are y'all 336 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: showing what? What? What you got? This lead? 337 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: Like? 338 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: You know, there's we're are we We are wired to 339 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: be anxious because that's why we under That's all we've understood. 340 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: What else is about? 341 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Though? I'm gonna ask 342 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: you come from a corporate job, like why do you 343 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: think you know well? 344 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: Because culturally they don't really understand us, They don't see 345 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: the humanity in black people, they don't know our hearts. 346 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this as a slight. 347 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying it is in the country, and it's not 348 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: across the We're just talking it's not across the board, 349 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: but we're just saying in general, it's not it's not. 350 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: The onness isn't on them to learn about African Americans. 351 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: The onness is on us to learn about them. And 352 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: if you've never ever felt like you've needed to learn 353 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: about another culture, their their music, their dance, their style, 354 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: who they are, why they move that way, doesn't affect 355 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: your day to day life, it really doesn't. You could 356 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: there We have to live consistently in the world where 357 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: we interact with them. They don't. They can live in 358 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: a world where they don't have to interact with us. 359 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: And that's not that's crazy, That's what it is. So 360 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: that's exactly so we're anxious when we are in these environments. 361 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: But I love that our music has always been the 362 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: connect the dots and you you're specifically what you're doing. 363 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: It's bringing what we already know is great in mainstream 364 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: to the forefront. And you've been able to do that 365 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: in so many different ways. So what's up with next 366 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: year's super Bowl. Tell me who's performing. You can give 367 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: me the exclusive right now. I won't share with anybody. 368 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: Just the folks. 369 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: Is drum roll. Super Bowl is in Las Vegas. That's 370 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: all I got. That's all I got that. 371 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: I know that, I know that. 372 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: You know I was trying to give you something. Nah, 373 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's a process. I ain't gonna even front 374 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: it's a process. At times we think we know, at 375 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: times we don't. You know. For instance, you know, I 376 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: think this is a little bit known, but you know, 377 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Taylor was supposed to be last year and then she 378 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: went through some things for her label and wanted to 379 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: get ready for her tour, which she's out here killing 380 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: it right now, and that probably was best for her. 381 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: But I also know that was best for re because 382 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: you know, if we were have pushed redback to twenty 383 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: four or twenty five or twenty six or whatever, you know, 384 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: who knows what her new situation as mommyhood whatever. So 385 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: things just happened in the spur of the moment at times, 386 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to planning that big concert in 387 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the big game, which which you know, but. 388 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: By the way, it's now become it's now become the 389 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: concert with a little game like that the West Coast. 390 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the truth. That West Coast 391 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: hip hop concert was like there's a little there's a 392 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: little game happening, but there's a concert. I'm here to see. 393 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: That's what. 394 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to understand that. 395 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: You need to understand that likes like that. Was this 396 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson or Prince. 397 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Who your team though? Who's your team? Oh? 398 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, well, you know my team even with the Rams, 399 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: The Rams is my team. That was I was still 400 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: rooting for my team and your team is the Eagles. 401 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we both have had our teams in the 402 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But I'm saying from the outside, look in 403 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: the what do the ratings do when the concert comes on? 404 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: No. Eighty million strong up in one minute? It's crazy. 405 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: It's really really crazy. It's like it went from this 406 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: number to this number. They can like see it, you 407 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that's because my auntie, Yeah, 408 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I te you know what I'm saying, like that, you know, 409 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Caucasian auntie, you know what I mean. Like they may 410 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: not be in it, may not be as interested in 411 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: the game. And then it's like that concert, the concert 412 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: started eighteen. Let's watch Why watch you. 413 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: Guys know what time it is. It's to pay the bills. 414 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: Time. 415 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: You can fast forward through these commercials. I'd appreciate it 416 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: if you did, but don't go away, fast forward, fast forward, 417 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: but paying attention because we have more of Adam Blackstone 418 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: when we return. 419 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: Every Champion and Carry Champion is to be a champion, 420 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: a champion, and carry Champion and carry Chat be out 421 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 3: a champion and Kerry Champion and. 422 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: Kerry chap Great. 423 00:22:51,760 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: It's the sports and entertainment connect it weird. Carry Champion 424 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: and Carry Champion is going to be a champion, a 425 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: champion and Carrie Chappi and they champion the Cary Chappion 426 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: and carried Shepy. 427 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: Naked Word, Welcome back to the podcast. I have a 428 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: musical director, creative, all around badass man, Adam Blackstone, still 429 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: here on Naked I will I will say this to 430 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: you because you've had some wonderful, like luminary moments. You 431 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: just did Juneteenth. You're coming off of that. By the 432 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: time of years will be about a week or so 433 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: after Juneteenth. That was a beautiful concert. And you have 434 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: touched everyone and everything. But most recently you've had your 435 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: own success with your own project, the Legacy Experience. Can 436 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: you is it experience a project? It's experience, right. 437 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: Well, Legacy is the album, and I'm calling the live 438 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: experience the Legacy experience for sure. Okay, good, yeah. 439 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: You no, but you have shared that you wanted to have. 440 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: You don't want to have just a lap laptop full 441 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: of ideas. You wanted to actually put something out there. 442 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: And perhaps was it the pandemic that motivated you? 443 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: For sure, it was the losses we were accumulating during 444 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: the pandemic. You know what I'm saying. I don't want 445 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: to say necessarily, the pandemic motivated me, like being on 446 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: one of the great things about my job is that 447 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: people wanted to see sports and music, for sure, you 448 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I really never had a 449 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: super low moment. I found out how to make live 450 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: music experiences from the crib, so that was really really cool. 451 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: You know, shows were still happening even though they were 452 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: COVID style, but the music bumpers and all of that, 453 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: and the live performances that we saw in the tiny 454 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: desk at homes, like I was doing all of those things. Yeah, 455 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: but then I was losing people. I lost a cousin, 456 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: I lost a great musician, keyboard player, friend of mine, young, 457 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: all just young people. I had people lose parents, and 458 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: that's when I was just like, yo, tomorrow is not 459 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: pro I'm not sure at forty years old that I 460 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: thought I would ever see a pandemic, you know what 461 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like just in my lifetime. My son at 462 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: the time was five, I just had a newborn, and 463 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: I was just like, Yo, I want something. Playing doctor 464 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Drake Kendrick's incredible. Playing with Ree is incredible. Well, once 465 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: that gig is over, it's still theirs, per se. I 466 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: love that I was a part of it and impacted 467 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: that moment. But what do I have when my name 468 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: wanted to pass on to my family and to my children. 469 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: So I buckled down and created my legacy album. And 470 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: here we are, you know, one Emmy later Grammy nominated, 471 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: later NAACP Image Award. We're trying to get it racked up. 472 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's just a big deal. It feels so 473 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: good to be validated by not just my people, but 474 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: just the peers in general, you know what I'm saying. 475 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: And it allows me opportunities like this to talk to 476 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: you and puts me on stages to kind of combined 477 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: thought processes. You know what I'm saying. Like, music for 478 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: sure is the catalyst to get me to outwork, speak 479 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: and inspire somebody else. So I'm thankful for that these moments, 480 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: for sure. 481 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm really beyond happy. 482 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Girl, for sure, you've been a huge 483 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: supporter of music in general, and so we see we 484 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: see you at this and I'll see you at the 485 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: at the show, I mean out there support. 486 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: But it warms my heart because right now I know 487 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people listen to this podcast that have 488 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: dreams because I'm a big believer of dreaming really big 489 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: and watching those dreams come true. People call it manifestation, 490 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: but I literally see my features and I want you 491 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: to talk to the struggling artists. And it doesn't have 492 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: to be just the musical director. It's the it's the director. Yeah, 493 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: it's the creative who needs to know that it's okay 494 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: to take your clothes out of the closet and create 495 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: a box to do music like Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis. 496 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Fact facts, Yeah, I mean 497 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: that's where it starts. It starts in your head. You 498 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: don't always have the resources. Now, I will say this, 499 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: the generation or two under us has says to so much. 500 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: So I will say I think that made us a 501 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: little more resilient and a little more creative. Where we 502 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: didn't have a YouTube where you couldn't seen the next 503 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: you know, pretty black girl podcast girls like you almost 504 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: had to guess who was behind the mic, Like you 505 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you couldn't really see what a 506 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: musical director does and to be like I aspire to 507 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: be that. So one of the things I encourage young 508 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: creatives to do is to follow your own dreams. You 509 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's cool to be inspired by us, 510 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: but at the same time be better than us, you 511 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I feel like my platform 512 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: is here for the little young boy, little young girl 513 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: to know that there anything that's possible. You know what 514 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I thought I was going to play it, 515 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: and music has taken me to every arena in the 516 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: country to watch my favorite sport. Like you know what 517 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I see the same camera people, I see 518 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: the same scoring table people, I see the same ball 519 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: girls and ball boys, Like, there are so many other 520 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: opportunities than just dribbling and passing and catching the ball 521 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: and even playing the guitar. There's so many other opportunities 522 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: that allow you to be successful, specifically in the entertainment business. 523 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: So that's been my job, and you know, we're offline, 524 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: but like, I really want to get people like us 525 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: around that. Maybe people can't do what we do, but 526 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: they want to be in the business because there's somebody 527 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: doing your audio right now, and there's somebody creating an 528 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: audio session for me right now. That you don't see 529 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: those people behind the day, but those are great, great 530 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: jobs that last, you know, kind of pass some of 531 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: the shows, and. 532 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: They teach you to the world that you want to 533 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: be a part. You were saying, I want to be 534 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: in the NBA, and you thought that was it, but 535 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: you're still a part, you know, whether it be adjacent 536 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: because of the world on which you live, you still 537 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: have the same access and the resources because you. 538 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm definitely in the NBA, I'm actually I'm actually in 539 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm actually in MLLB. Like it's so crazy 540 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, those are the moments where 541 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: you realize this gift that I have has gotten me 542 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: to these stages and you want to be more excellent, 543 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Give that access to my 544 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: children and it's like, you know, he see Jojo and 545 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: this regular for him because it's like that's where we're at. 546 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: But it's like I can't imagine being able to just 547 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: see ai, you know what. 548 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: And so your messages for all those who are creatives 549 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: is to really follow your passion. 550 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: Follow your passion. It will take you far beyond where 551 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. And then the other thing is 552 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: if you're not inspired, find some I think to be 553 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: or someone to be inspired inspired by. You know what 554 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like it takes it. 555 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 2: You know. 556 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: I hate to think specifically for our black boys, it's 557 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: like you've got to have some turmoil or some daddy 558 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: issues or whatever to be like great, you know what 559 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So one of my other constant roles is 560 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: affirming my children to know that they can be anything 561 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: that they want to do. I have their back ten 562 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: thousand percent and I'm gonna support them and all that 563 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: because sometimes the success stories you see be like, you know, 564 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: struggle didn't know the dad. He went on to be great. 565 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, that's up. 566 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be that story. It could be 567 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: a story of my dad was an organist in the 568 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: church and he said, go ahead and be creative. And 569 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: then it could be we encourage everything that I wanted 570 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: to do. That's why I'm so good at what I 571 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: do and why I'm also in turn a great author. Yeah, 572 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: which is before Adam, I love that story. Can you 573 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: tell me? Can you really tell me? Because every time 574 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: I talk to you, you seem so easy and happy. 575 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: Have there ever has there ever been a time in 576 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: which in your career where you're like, this, th ain't it. 577 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: I ain't doing this, this ain't. 578 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get discouraged often, I mean like and then 579 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: also right on front like social media, I haven't thinking 580 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: that you ain't doing nothing either, Like even though you 581 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: do all that, you do it all the days. 582 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: Wait, what do you why the social media makes you 583 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: think that way? Why? 584 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: Why? Why? 585 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: Well? 586 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know they're there. There could be there 587 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: could be someone you know, deemed more popular. It could 588 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: be something where you know you really want people to 589 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: see or buy a song or whatever, and the numbers 590 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: ain't moving like you think they should. Be, but then 591 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: you see some other crazy numbers moving on something that 592 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: is a little less that you may think is less important, 593 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's it's you know, 594 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: I take social breaks for sure, you know what I mean, 595 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: because I remember how focused I was before all of this, 596 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: and I still let them very focused, don't get me wrong, 597 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: But I mean like I remember when I could do 598 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: five or six or seven different jobs because it was 599 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: nothing taking my attention away or me not necessarily I 600 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: was chasing myself, you know what I mean. But you 601 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: know there are times where you struggle. You you look 602 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: for validation. That's where a great support system comes comes 603 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: in Andy as well, and then team as well, because 604 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: I surround myself with positive people and we are not 605 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: always positive, but a strong word ll help you get 606 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: through it. That you never know what somebody's going through, 607 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: whether that be at the crib, whether that be out 608 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: in the field, whether that be at work, whether you 609 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: know you've done I remember during the Oscar last year 610 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: and then it was just like I was working for 611 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: three months and then the song changed like a weekend 612 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: before you know what I'm saying. So I was like, 613 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, that makes you almost want to give up, 614 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: but it's like no, no, no, this ain't the time 615 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,239 Speaker 1: to give up. This is the time to step up, 616 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So and then you know, 617 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: everybody's financial and mental state at times can take it 618 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: a toll on you too. So mental health is a real, real, 619 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: real I'm a firm believer and being as optimistic as possible, 620 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: because if you speak it like you said, Carrie, it's 621 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna happen, It's gonna manifest, it's some way or another. 622 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: And so I have met some people who are down, 623 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: not only on themselves but just out in the world. 624 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: We always hate that one board that's like yo, you 625 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: always negative about stuff like yeah, I know what I mean, right. 626 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: Ed? 627 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: Probably like nah, uncle, I need all positivity because at 628 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: the end of the day, we winners, and it's not 629 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: about the win and it's not about the w h E. 630 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: And it's just knowing that I am going to wi in. 631 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm good with it sooner rather than later, and not now. 632 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: If not now, but you are when you eat cast 633 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: you this for very ambitious people, and this is why 634 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm very curious when I see ambitious, successful people such 635 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: as yourself. I wonder do you know when a win 636 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: is truly a win? If it all away tomorrow, as in, 637 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: I don't feel like tomorrow, would you be okay with 638 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: what you've accomplished so far? Or you would feel like 639 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 2: there's but you would feel slighted? 640 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: Be honest, you know now we now we're in the 641 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: therapy session right now, because you know what I'm saying. 642 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why. Culturally, I think we don't celebrate 643 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: ourselves enough when there is a win. You know what 644 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, we are. I'm gonna put you in the 645 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: same category. We a little bit of a workaholic, and 646 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: when we do great, great, great, great things, we're happy 647 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: about it, don't get me wrong. But at the same time, 648 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: we want to move on to the next thing. So 649 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: and not that it can top the last thing, but 650 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: that almost is what drives us. So is it? 651 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: If this is it cultural? Is it? Is it a 652 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: black thing? Or is it the ambitious? I don't think 653 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: that I'll use this random Elon Musk is ever satisfied. 654 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: This man has SpaceX and a car that drives itself 655 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: and equal to whatever, and he's like, not enough. I 656 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: want to change. I want science to lead the world. 657 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: What I've accomplished is great, Yes, I know? 658 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 4: Or is it? 659 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: Or is it we just feel like we have it 660 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: might go away? Are we addicted to the to the seed? 661 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: That's what I think cultural is that it's like, yo, 662 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: we we don't know when they could be taken from us. 663 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like that was a moment 664 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 2: where I told you I just accepted every gig. I 665 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: don't do that anymore because number one no is powerful. 666 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: And then and then at the same time, all money 667 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: ain't good money, you know what I mean. 668 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: But but but I'm in a position to say that 669 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: now because I did say yes to a lot, a 670 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: lot of things to put me on the map and 671 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: to gain my own self assuredness of what I could 672 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: and couldn't do. So I don't know, Carrie, I don't 673 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: like to answer that. I would ask you, I would 674 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: say to your original question, would I be satisfied? Absolutely? 675 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, my children have seen me do some great things. 676 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: My wife has seen me do some great things. My 677 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: mom is so proud of me. Oh, but I have 678 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: my own personal goals that have nothing to do with 679 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: them as well. I know I want to move into 680 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: I know I want to. I want to get this eguy, Like, 681 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: there's so many different things that I personally want to 682 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: do that My daughter, my two year old daughter, she 683 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: could give a f about, Like, she don't care about 684 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: none of that, you know what I'm saying. And if 685 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: I were to later rest today, yeah, she wanna, she 686 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: want to. She want to play with Ariel the little hermon, 687 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 688 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 689 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: But but if I were to leaders Earth today, I 690 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: could definitely think my family, my friends would say job 691 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: well done for sure, And I'm thankful. I'm thankful for that. 692 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm thankful to be able to put people in a 693 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: position to win as well. And that's one of my 694 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: first not to get super deep, but that's one of 695 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: my first ministries is like I really want people to 696 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: win around me because the opportunity that I was given 697 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: doesn't come around a lot of times, you know what 698 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean. So once you take it, you have to 699 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: be prepared for it and uh and make it happen. 700 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: So you know that's why I'm at with it. 701 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: Get it once you once you get on, you have 702 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: to give it back. Once you get on, you have 703 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: to give it back. It's not just for you're for 704 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: ourselves just to share it and grow it and and 705 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: and build off of it. 706 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: Every champion and Kerry champion is to be a champion, 707 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 3: a champion and carry champion and carry chat be out 708 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 3: a champion and Kerry chappion and carry chappifraid is the 709 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 3: sports and entertainment can naked weird Kerry champion and carry 710 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 3: champion is to be a champion of champion and carry champion. 711 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: Nigger got a champion and carry champion and carry chappyfraid 712 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 3: is the sports and entertainment can get word. 713 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: I wonder, Adam, what is next for you? I know 714 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: you said you want to egot and you want to 715 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: be in movies. Those things will be that is that 716 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: is to come, That is happening. That's that's what. That's 717 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: so I am, But what what what outside of on 718 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: the list, Like, what do you want for yourself personally? 719 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: In your family? What do you want to shure? 720 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to raise happy and successful children, for sure. 721 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: I think that's always a goal for a proud father. 722 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: I want to leave a legacy is for them to 723 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: know that I did my best for them, and then 724 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, leave a little bit of generational wealth. And 725 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: that's not even financial I'm talking about. I'm really I'm 726 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: literally talking about knowledge wisdom. 727 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: You know. 728 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: I see some of the other other folks do it. 729 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: They leaving their kids land and all this kind of stuff. 730 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: It's like, like, how dope is that? You know what 731 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like the investment instead of getting a school 732 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: on It's like, let me be in a position to 733 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: give that to my son, to learn how to make 734 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: it be something in the future, you know what I mean? 735 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 1: So uh, And then that that comes with me constantly learning, 736 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, constantly learning the financial game. I'm all early 737 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: at leisure, like. 738 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: Say all day, say I'm going to tell you that's 739 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 2: one thing about this generation of us who have made it, 740 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: who didn't have the financial literacy. We're learning and real 741 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: and and real time. It's scary. 742 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: It's scary. It's really scary. I see puff Now, I 743 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about no music. I'm just like, yo, 744 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: what's what you're working on? Like, you know, what's the 745 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: next deal? How you how you figure out this dellly y'all? 746 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: How you figure out this sarack? Like I'm with Jay 747 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: often and when I get a chance to, you know, 748 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: I watch and observe the team around him bringing him 749 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: the deals. You know what I'm saying. Not to diminish 750 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: his genius at all, but it's about surrounding yourself with 751 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,959 Speaker 1: forward thinking people as well, you know what I'm saying. 752 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: So it's like that's the kind of things that I'm 753 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: trying to do. I have people now my team bringing 754 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: me plays knowing that I want to he got So 755 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: it's like they're bring give me new scripts, They're bringing 756 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: me things to invest in to possibly do. I am 757 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: scoring the new Alicia Keys Broadway play we got to 758 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: open the night October twenty four called Hell's Kitchen. I'm 759 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: really excited about that. Me and Yeah come through from Shore. 760 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: I got you, Me and Alicia doing that. Another big 761 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: thing I'm excited about is I'm being honored November first, 762 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: and I would love to invite you to that in 763 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: La by recording Academy Save the Music, which is about 764 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: all giving back to the kids. They're trying to take 765 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: music out the schools man especially the black schools, and like, 766 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: I ain't have it. I ain't having it. I'm not 767 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: having it. 768 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 2: It's hey, Adam, that though right there, like what you 769 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 2: just said, gave me chills. They're trying to check music 770 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 2: out of the schools and you, that is your that 771 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 2: will be a part of your legacy. 772 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: You will not let that happen. I can't do it 773 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: because I know the outlet that I that I had 774 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: through music. I remember the football code I was, you know, 775 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: I was like six foot two eighty in college. I 776 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: mean in high school. He was like you just you 777 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: just you won't. You're gonna choose folks. You're gonna choose 778 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 1: play defensive end or you're gonna go to the Martian band. 779 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, I think I'm gonna go to 780 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: the march Van And they like you just a waste 781 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: of big and I just like, I think it worked 782 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: out for me. I think it worked. I think it 783 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: worked out for me. Go like, you know what I'm saying, Like, 784 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: so I know the outlet, I know the I know 785 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: the gifts, and I know how incredible it was to 786 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: be in the band room during school days and to 787 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: have something to look forward to that wasn't always just scholastic, 788 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so that creative outlet 789 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: allowed me to meet people that allowed me to be 790 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: a friend to different cultures and different, you know, racist, 791 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 1: and I'm going to do my best to really really 792 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: amplify the fact that, you know, music is not just 793 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: a sound, but it's it's it's a feeling, it's a culture, 794 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: it's it's it's healing for people. And so I'm doing 795 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: my best to do that through save the music. So 796 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: that's another big thing I'm proud of this year is 797 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: that graduating them. She congradulates so much. Nobody say the music. 798 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: You know why because I always think how important There 799 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 2: are two things that are extremely important. Music. We talked 800 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 2: about what it's been for us culturally. Like I I 801 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 2: remember going to I was in Nashville and I went 802 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: to the museum there and and Jimmy jam and Terry 803 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 2: Lewis and as you mentioned them earlier. So they have 804 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 2: a section in that museum. I forget the name of it, 805 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 2: but it's the museum that acknowledges African American music, that 806 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 2: talks about what it's done for us, even since it's beginning. 807 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 2: The gospel, the rooms, ye boots of it all. And 808 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: I was thinking, it just narrates our life and it's 809 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 2: so very important because you can play a song, you 810 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 2: could you could remember to you. Now, I'll tell you 811 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: where I am based on what I'm listening to. 812 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: And it's so important that you could cry on the 813 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: you could cry on the spot you hear the if 814 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: you hear the right rogue song, like whether that's a 815 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: loved one passing, whether that's your dude break it up 816 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: with you, whether that's the wedding's song, whatever it is. 817 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: It's like music has so many different capabilities, and so 818 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, our young people will need that. I see 819 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: I see young people struggling with mental health more than 820 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: ever and it's not cool. It's not cool, and I 821 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: can't help but say because of what I do. A 822 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: big part of that is not having the outlet to 823 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: express you know. 824 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: I love it, Adam. You're changing the world with your 825 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 2: music and and you already trying to see You are athlete, 826 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 2: You're in all the things. So now I know, whenever 827 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: I want to come to something, just real black, I 828 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: wrap it up like this, real black. Can I just 829 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: get a ticket because you're doing all the stuff? 830 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: Got the ticket? I got no Beyonce tickets, but I 831 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: got you. 832 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: A Beyonce hookup. I gotta Beyonce hookups, So. 833 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: I wait on that they got. 834 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 4: Listen, I'm gonna call you on that, like, hey, who 835 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 4: we called me? Let me what we call a nice 836 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 4: tight connect. I'll tell you about it offline. Let me 837 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 4: wrap up this podcast. Thank you so much for joining 838 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 4: me and encouraging me. 839 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm carrying me. 840 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: Youpirati, you really truly are do you know that? Just 841 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: just receive it, Just receive it this same things. 842 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Say thank you, I'll receive it. I'll 843 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: receive it. But I wanted to to you want to 844 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: say this as you go and you go, you are 845 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: doing the same for us, like you know you you. 846 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: I can't even put a gender on it. Like you. 847 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 1: What you do for the culture is bigger than woman, 848 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: That is bigger than black. It's like, you know, keep 849 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing, given us these outlets and still 850 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: talking your shit because you know what you're talking about. 851 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 2: So that's right. 852 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: We appreciate I. 853 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 2: I love you Adam so much. 854 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: I really do. God, you a good loud loud loud. 855 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 2: When you're creative and you have had certain levels of success, 856 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 2: I do believe it's difficult to appreciate all that you've done, 857 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 2: really to take in your career and That's why I 858 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: asked Adam, when is enough enough? Have you done enough? 859 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 2: And quite honestly, he said no, And I can relate. 860 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean I can relate. I have accomplished some amazing 861 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: things over my career, but I'm always looking at what's next. 862 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: I do believe the world that we live in today 863 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 2: forces us to compare ourselves to others, and we see 864 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 2: it so obviously with social media. That person's doing that, 865 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 2: she's doing that, and he's doing that without taking the 866 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 2: time to say, but what am I doing or what 867 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 2: have I accomplished, or how have I inspired? Or how 868 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: have I contributed to the culture and to the field 869 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 2: in which I am working and thriving it Sometimes we 870 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 2: start we should just ask ourselves those questions. We should 871 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: not live in this world where it's always what's next. 872 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: I'm telling myself that as I tell you that, I 873 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: appreciate dam for being honest, and I don't have an answer. 874 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: I definitely don't have an answer, because I too do 875 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 2: exactly what he does. I'm looking at what's next. I'm 876 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: already outlining the next move, the next show, the next gig, 877 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 2: the next opportunity. But in the meantime, I think I 878 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: can try. And this is what I am encouraging you 879 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 2: all to do. Take stop. You don't have to look 880 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 2: around and see what everybody else is doing. Take stock 881 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 2: of what you've already accomplished and why it's so so 882 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 2: very valuable. I love that his parents encouraged him. I 883 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: love that they loved his creativity. And I love that, 884 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: despite what he'd looked like as a black boy, haul 885 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 2: and big, and they wanted him to do sports, he 886 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 2: wanted to fall his passion. We don't have to take 887 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 2: the traditional path of the path that we've been told 888 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 2: we should take. This is just another example of why 889 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: you should do what inspires you, what drives you, what 890 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 2: is your passion, and be bold about it and hopefully 891 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 2: you have people around you who encourage it. That's exactly 892 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 2: what happened to Adam, and it's just such a testament 893 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 2: to I am more than what you see. There is 894 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 2: so much more to experience. There's so much more to 895 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: be had with me, and I'm disgrateful that we had 896 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 2: the opportunity to hear his story. Adam Blackstone musical director 897 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 2: for the next ten Super Bowls. 898 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: Probably you know what I mean. 899 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 2: The musical director for the Oscars, musical director for the 900 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 2: BET Awards, a musical director for you name it. Now 901 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,399 Speaker 2: he's doing Broadway with Alicia Keys. Keep going, keep going, 902 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 2: and don't forget. You've allreadlready made it. I appreciate you 903 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: guys listening to the Naked podcast. We will be back 904 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,479 Speaker 2: next week.