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Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with passionable intelligence.

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Speaker 1: No mistake, America, you're a great American Again. The buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show begins now. Welcome, Welcome, ladies and gentlemen to

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Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. You're right if you're thinking that's

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Speaker 1: not buck Sexton, it's me again. Raheem Kassam, the global

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of Human Events dot com, filling in

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Speaker 1: for the great buck Sexton today, broadcasting live this time.

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Speaker 1: Those of you who will remember a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: we did it out of West Palm Beach. This time

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Speaker 1: we're doing it out of sunny, sunny California. We're in

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Speaker 1: We're in North LA. I don't even know La very well.

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Speaker 1: a great show for you today. So much going on

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Speaker 1: in the world, not least the President assailing China yet again.

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Speaker 1: This trade war talk is all kicking off the establishment

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Speaker 1: obviously in a panic. Mister President, you can't have tariffs.

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Speaker 1: We don't like tariffs. The end of history dictated, we

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Speaker 1: decades and decades of destruction that they've been doing to

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Speaker 1: to what they're doing down in Latin America and Central America. Also,

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Speaker 1: But there's more going on to things that we all

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Speaker 1: be talking to the Concerned Women for America. Share Garrison

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Speaker 1: run the Alexandria Accassio Cortez parody account on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: also a Claremont fellow like myself. I guess you're beginning

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Speaker 1: This is an outrage, not just a moral outrage, it's

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Speaker 1: the reason he is president. The working class people in

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Speaker 1: the stock market rebounded, all of those metrics are pointing

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Speaker 1: is we're starting to pull the supply chain back from China.

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Speaker 1: And that's the central part of Trump's plan. I think

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Speaker 1: and this is not the trade part. These are the

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Speaker 1: to happen. So I think people should look for things

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Speaker 1: intellectual property, subsidies, the state owned industries to drive to

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Speaker 1: in the world. Those would be major wins not just

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Speaker 1: and prosperity throughout the world. That's a win. Anything short

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we're very far apart in this deal.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see for something to happen to him.

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Speaker 1: I think a process has to be started that you

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Speaker 1: I I just don't see President Trump blinking. I think

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Speaker 1: the Hawks in Beijing right now are saying, hey, this

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Speaker 1: from the nineteenth century as being British, and that was

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Speaker 1: really what started the two hundred years of humiliation. The

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Speaker 1: this would put America, with the monitoring and with the

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Speaker 1: So I think we're quite a bit a part of way.

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Speaker 1: Just before I let you go, I didn't realize you

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Speaker 1: there that like to follow what Steve Bannon is doing

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Speaker 1: across the world. What can you tell us about about

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Speaker 1: your travels in Europe and will I see you next

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Speaker 1: week in London. We're coming over human Events. It's coming

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Speaker 1: over to cover the European parliamentary campaign. If you remember, Steve,

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Speaker 1: time for me. Well, i'll say it, within uber cutting

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Speaker 1: right now. My schedule was pretty damned and as you know,

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Speaker 1: Nigel has done such a stunning job and setting out

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Speaker 1: their plan and to run up to the European Parliamentary

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Speaker 1: But this is a this is a you know, people

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Speaker 1: In the next days. You have a real possibility for

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could have a scenario where Salveni, lapen In,

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Speaker 1: I got to tell you I couldn't be proud of

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Speaker 1: I think if there's a general election in the fall,

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Speaker 1: audience that this is it's a prairie fire over here

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Speaker 1: for the sovereignty movement. And you saw Roba in the

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Speaker 1: Oval office this week. They didn't have a huge rally

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Speaker 1: on I think a Saturday in Milan. I'm heading down

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Speaker 1: to Paris on Thursday. It's this It's quite a time

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Speaker 1: over here. And by the way, in Germany we'll turn

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Speaker 1: for by signs REALI said, to get their sea legs.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to be a very mature party

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Speaker 1: come the fall elections. Well, Steve, we're really grateful for

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Speaker 1: you staying up late. It's what like one am I

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Speaker 1: think in Berlin at the moment, So we're very grateful

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Speaker 1: for you joining us here on the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Just tell people real quick where they can learn more

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Speaker 1: about the Committee on the Present Danger of China. You're

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Speaker 1: new outfit that's looking into all of this stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have, we have a website. Committee on the Present

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Speaker 1: Danger found out Sik Gaffe run that day to day

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Speaker 1: the American Republic. You can go there and raheem our

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Speaker 1: congratulations on the launch of Human Events. Uh for in

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Speaker 1: this movement we need the magazine and the website to work.

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Speaker 1: It couldn't have a better better editor than us. So great, great,

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Speaker 1: I go there time, Steve. There's no need to lie.

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Speaker 1: Great exactly, you know. I mean the first to tell you,

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Speaker 1: what's there? It is? It is Uncle Steve's looking after me.

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Speaker 1: Stephen K. Bannon there, Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us here on the buck Sexton Show. And then the

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Speaker 1: next segment, ladies and gentlemen, I will be walking you

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Speaker 1: in the European parliamentary elections that are closing in real

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Speaker 1: quick and why does it matter to you? You're going

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Speaker 1: to find out right after this break. Welcome back. This

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Speaker 1: is the buck Sexton Show. I'm reheamed this arm Global

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of Human Events dot Com. Reagan's favorite

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Speaker 1: magazine broadcasting live from Los Angeles. We just heard from

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Speaker 1: Stephen K. Bannon. They're talking about the US China trade war.

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Speaker 1: If you missed it, if you're just tuning in, you're

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Speaker 1: the show ends at nine pm Eastern and listen back

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Speaker 1: Steve talking about what victory looks like for the US

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Speaker 1: in that China trade war and importantly what's happening in

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Speaker 1: Europe at the moment, because I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people don't recognize realize just how important what takes place

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Speaker 1: in the Europe in parliamentary elections, oh in just nine

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Speaker 1: towards the European Union. And there are so many things

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Speaker 1: a lot of European policies, regulatory policies, financial industry policies

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Speaker 1: with the European Unions regulatory standards, we have to now

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Speaker 1: least with regards immigration policy. Victor Orbarn's the Hungarian Prime Minister.

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Speaker 1: the days they all meshed together. Now. Orban was one

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Speaker 1: I'm protecting my country. This isn't a free for all,

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Speaker 1: no matter what Angela Merkel says. Not everyone can come

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Speaker 1: But Orban had been frozen out of coming to the

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to you a little bit about

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Speaker 1: as well, and how that has ramifications for the United

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Speaker 1: But it turns out that that might be something. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about that and a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more in the next segments. Remember the phone line here

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. This is raheem

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Speaker 1: to some filling in occupying the freedom heart here in

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Speaker 1: of it. We had a great first hour on the show.

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Speaker 1: If you missed out, you're gonna want to listen back.

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Speaker 1: We had doctor cher Garrison of the Concerned Women of

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Speaker 1: America talking about this new Equality Act that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: literally for transgender bathroom usage, males using female bathrooms, females

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Speaker 1: using males. You know, the Alexandra Occassio Cortez line of

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Speaker 1: running train on this legislative agenda is becoming more and more,

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Speaker 1: more nefarious as time goes on. Plenty of action to

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Speaker 1: take as regards concerned that Women for America. You can

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Speaker 1: go to their website you're interested in that issue. We

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Speaker 1: also had Stephen K. Bannon on talking about all things

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Speaker 1: China trade war. In case you forgot, Stephen K. Bannon

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Speaker 1: the CEO of the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen. I'm

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Speaker 1: delighted to be joined now by by another chap who's

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Speaker 1: going to be joining us to talk about this Equality Act.

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Speaker 1: You see, I am such a believer in equality that

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Speaker 1: we had both a female animes voice on this topic. Ladies, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: have you met Terry Shilling? Welcome to the show, Terry, Hey, raheem,

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Speaker 1: how are you a fake snake? That? And I do

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Speaker 1: identify as male and I am biologically fail? Wow. Good

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Speaker 1: to know, as they call it, good to know. The

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Speaker 1: American Principles Project is where Terry does most of his work. Terry,

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Speaker 1: you'll forgive me. What's the website again? American Principles Project

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Speaker 1: dot org. Real? There you go, there you go? You

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Speaker 1: see now if you like what Terry says. Over the

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Speaker 1: course of the next ten minutes, American Principles Project, do

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Speaker 1: August were can go to find out more? Terry impress them?

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Speaker 1: What is going on with this Equality Act? How is

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Speaker 1: this sneaking kind of beneath the raider. I'm not really

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Speaker 1: seeing this on television, you guys obviously at the American

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Speaker 1: Principles Project that concerned Wining from America and a couple

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Speaker 1: of other groups, even some left wing groups, as doctor

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Speaker 1: Scher Garrison told us in the last hour, banging on

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Speaker 1: about this now in all the right ways. Tell us

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Speaker 1: about this, what it means, and where are you guys

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Speaker 1: approaching this issue from. So, look, the main problem with

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Speaker 1: discriminated against. But the real problem is is that it

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Speaker 1: includes that's a really ambiguous term, gender identity. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: define gender identity. So for your listeners that aren't really

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Speaker 1: that familiar, gender identity is not related. Apparently is not

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Speaker 1: related to your biological sex. So I'm a male, I

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Speaker 1: saying to you, raheem, I now identify as a female

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Speaker 1: and then having all of the rights that females apply.

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Speaker 1: And the reason that this is majorly problematic is because

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Speaker 1: especially with female sports. You know, I mean, men have

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Speaker 1: can get whoa whoa whoa terry, terry terry. Firstly, you're

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Speaker 1: I am calling the police. Secondly, I have to say

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Speaker 1: you haven't yet. I am a phenomenal I might be

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Speaker 1: a very good lacrosse player. No, I think you know

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Speaker 1: what's what's happening now is in high school, these young

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Speaker 1: and they're just destroying these female records. Well, because you know,

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Speaker 1: men just have natural athletic ability that women don't. Um.

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Speaker 1: in one day and he had all of those revoked

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Speaker 1: that he was really a man. Uh. So look there there,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of bad implications here, and the

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Speaker 1: Equality Act is just a bad bill. But if you

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Speaker 1: ask the American people, should someone be fired for being gay? Uh,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna say no, they should be protected. But if

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Speaker 1: say no. Uh. And so you look, if the Democrats

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Speaker 1: for LGB members of their community. But that's not really

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Speaker 1: what this is about. The Social Engineering Bill. It's a

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Speaker 1: complete and unmitigated disaster. And uh, I'm really worried about.

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Speaker 1: There's a fourteen Republicans that are rumored to be supporting it,

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Speaker 1: which is just pathetic, pathetic. Well, let's get into that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know those fourteen off the

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Speaker 1: any of them. Is it sort of the usual suspects?

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Speaker 1: Who are we talking about here? Well, I mean we're

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Speaker 1: you know, the obvious people. It's you know, the least

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Speaker 1: most surprising ones that I've heard that are flirting with

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Speaker 1: of intel that he's thinking about voting for this absolutely

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Speaker 1: bizarre terry. Um, if orderary people out there want to

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Speaker 1: do something about it, what can they do? Where can

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Speaker 1: they go? Tell them? Tell them everything. The best thing

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Speaker 1: you guys can do is call you're a member of Congress,

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Speaker 1: especially if they're a Republican, and urge them to vote

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Speaker 1: no and vote on a clean bill of glip bill

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Speaker 1: that you know, if you really support gay rights and

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Speaker 1: you don't think people should be fired for being gay,

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Speaker 1: they should support a clean bill where there's obvious consensus

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Speaker 1: and obvious science m and say that, you know, gay

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Speaker 1: jobs for being gay. But take out this gender identity nonsense.

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Speaker 1: It's totally crazy. It's insane and has no business being

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Speaker 1: added into the Civil Rights law, which was you know,

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Speaker 1: created to protect black Americans who are being legitimately discriminated against.

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Speaker 1: So contact remember Congress, go to American Principles Project dot

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Speaker 1: with and out all types of voter rowers. There you go,

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Speaker 1: Terry Shilling there, Thank you so much. I know you're

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Speaker 1: busy boy. Thank you so much for joining us here

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Speaker 1: on the Buck Sexton Show today. Hey, stay beautiful, raheem.

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Speaker 1: We love you always and forever, ladies and gentlemen. That

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Speaker 1: is the great Terry Shilling there. The phone lines here

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Speaker 1: are open eight four four nine hundred Buck eight four

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Speaker 1: four nine hundred two eight two five got so much

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Speaker 1: more fire throughout the show to bring you. Got Mike

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Speaker 1: Morrison up next. Who is or was the Alexandria Acassio

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Speaker 1: Cortez parody account aoc press on Twitter? Recently banned. You

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Speaker 1: may have seen me on Fox a couple of times

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Speaker 1: in the last week. You may have read some articles

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Speaker 1: on Human Events dot com. We are going after this

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Speaker 1: tech censorship issue in a mighty mighty big way, because

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Speaker 1: if we don't do it now, nobody's going to do

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Speaker 1: it for us, when we've all been bound and gagged

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Speaker 1: by our tech overlords in Silicon Valley right here in

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Speaker 1: California where I sit right now. This is the Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We're gonna go to a quick break. When

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Speaker 1: we're back, Mike Morrison, I want more of your calls,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, so get on the lines eight four

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Speaker 1: four nine hundred buck eight four four nine hundred two

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Speaker 1: eight two five. We'll be right back. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Rahemcasam here the global DNS from chief

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Speaker 1: of Human Events dot com. You can follow me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Raheem Kassam. It's r h E E M

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Speaker 1: K A S. S amm. My next guest is somebody

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Speaker 1: who you can't follow on Twitter anymore. Mike Morrison was

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Speaker 1: the account holder of a at aoc Press on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: as well as his own account office of Mike Mike.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Thank you, ahem, thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me on. Mike. I know, I know you're a

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Speaker 1: nervous person when it comes to media, But does my

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Speaker 1: voice soothe you that we've you know, we know each other.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we're friends, but we know each other.

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Speaker 1: You don't feel nervous, do you? A well? But well,

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Speaker 1: well we'll go easy on you, Mike. This isn't it

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Speaker 1: got your interview? Um tell us, Mike, what was AOC

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Speaker 1: press on Twitter? And why did the geniuses in Silicon

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Speaker 1: Valley decide that you weren't allowed to have your account anymore?

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Speaker 1: Which was a parody of the left wing congresswoman Alexandra

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Speaker 1: Accassio Cortez. So anc Press was a Twitter account created

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Speaker 1: to mark the stupidity of AOC and to make jokes

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Speaker 1: and tweet about things which sounds like things that she

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Speaker 1: could have said. And Twitter seemed like that they saw

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Speaker 1: too many people were taking it from the real thing.

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Speaker 1: So despite it saying that it was a parody account

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Speaker 1: in two places, they decided that that wasn't enough and

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Speaker 1: it was still formed people because she is that dumb,

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Speaker 1: and they decided that time had to go. Wait, we

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Speaker 1: have to make very clear here that the Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Show does not institutionally believe that Alexandria A Cassio Cortez

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Speaker 1: is quote that dumb Mike Morrison, I think we might.

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Speaker 1: I think I just got the producer telling me I

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Speaker 1: think we might. Actually, I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: make very clear. I think she is. She is right

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Speaker 1: up there. She is. You know, she's one of the

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Speaker 1: that I can't even do it, Mike. You know, when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the tech censorship thing, Twitter claims to

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Speaker 1: accept parody, but as you say, you put parody in

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Speaker 1: your title of the account, it said aoc Press Brackett's parody,

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Speaker 1: and you also had it in the bio in the

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Speaker 1: biography of the account, so people couldn't have been under

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Speaker 1: the impression that it was anything but a parody account.

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Speaker 1: So why do you think this has happened? And give us,

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Speaker 1: if you can, a little bit of context around what

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Speaker 1: else has happened in the past couple of weeks, because

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Speaker 1: we've had many men, the right wingers who are banned

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Speaker 1: off Twitter, off Facebook, off Instagram. And it's not just them,

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Speaker 1: it's not just the big wigs, it's not just the

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Speaker 1: talking heads, it's not just the media personalities, ordinary people, right, like,

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Speaker 1: like honestly like yourself, Mike. You know you're not You're

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Speaker 1: not really a politics guy. You don't work in politics.

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Speaker 1: You're a private individual. You thought it would be funny

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Speaker 1: to start up a parody account. Just just talk to

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Speaker 1: us about all of that and and how that portends

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Speaker 1: for the American commitment to freedom of speech. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's trying already started a while back, like

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Speaker 1: you said, it started with people like Alex Stones, and

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Speaker 1: even a little bit before that with Milo and people

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Speaker 1: like that, and it's been going sort of like they're

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Speaker 1: starting at different levels. You know, they take someone radical

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Speaker 1: like Alex Stones, another controversial figure. This is the info

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Speaker 1: Wars host, Yeah, Alex Stones and for as a host,

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Speaker 1: and they picked them off, and then they slowly, slowly

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Speaker 1: moved down the list of people like less and less controversial.

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Speaker 1: You know. Then they went from the War rumor, and

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Speaker 1: then they went for Jacob Wall and then you know,

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Speaker 1: they're going down the list. And then they took my account.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anyone who knows me from Twitter knows that

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Speaker 1: I'm a pretty tame guy on Twitter. My only client

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Speaker 1: was that I was running a parody account. Mocking the

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Speaker 1: new Democratic Queen or the or the or the new

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Speaker 1: the new Disney princess of the Democrat Party. Mike, what

864
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Speaker 1: is the recourse when you when you get your account banned?

865
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Speaker 1: What steps can you take? So that's also the I

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Speaker 1: think the big problem of of what I think with

867
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Speaker 1: the social media censorship and stuff like that, that I

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Speaker 1: received a generic email stating that my account has been suspended. Now,

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Speaker 1: I spent two years on the platform, building up a following,

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Speaker 1: building up people who are interested in my content, and

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Speaker 1: then I ran a parody as well and built that

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Speaker 1: up as well. And I mean, the least that they

873
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Speaker 1: should do for someone who's added some sort of value

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Speaker 1: to their company, reach out to me, let me know

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Speaker 1: that I'm doing something wrong, let me know how I

876
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Speaker 1: can fix it. It's just like, without any warning, without

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Speaker 1: any communication, just an email, your account has been banned

878
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Speaker 1: and it will not be reinstated. That was the email

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Speaker 1: I received, and that when I opened it, they said

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Speaker 1: there was basically another generic email with a few extra

881
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Speaker 1: words thrown in there just to make it sound like

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Speaker 1: something different. This is happening to so many people at

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Speaker 1: the moment. As they say, Mike, it's not just people

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Speaker 1: who have big followings or big personalities in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form, And it feels a lot to me

886
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Speaker 1: like election meddling. It feels like the band hammer is

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Speaker 1: being wielded at a speed, at a rate that it

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Speaker 1: hasn't been over the last couple of years. It feels

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Speaker 1: like as we creep towards those twenty twenty elections, the

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Speaker 1: social media giants, whether they're doing it as as a

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Speaker 1: cartel where they're all coming together and thinking about these

892
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Speaker 1: rules themselves, or whether they're doing it alone or at

893
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Speaker 1: least by just sort of taking inspiration from one another,

894
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: it feels like this is to ensure that the president,

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Speaker 1: the president supporters, the president's messages can reach fewer and

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Speaker 1: fewer people as we get closer and closer to the

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Speaker 1: election next year. Would you would you agree with that?

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Speaker 1: And and you know, just talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: the scale of this, because these people aren't people with

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Speaker 1: sort of ten thousand and twenty thousand followers. These are

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Speaker 1: people with hundreds of thousands and millions of followers out there,

902
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Speaker 1: and then they they have their followers retweet them and

903
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Speaker 1: there's a massive, massive filter effect as to how this

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Speaker 1: sort of goes goes out there to not just in

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Speaker 1: the United States, but but abroad as well. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: a hundred percent spout out with that, and I've been

907
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Speaker 1: saying that, but I'm taking down my account. It wasn't

908
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Speaker 1: that large of an account. I had about sixty thousand

909
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Speaker 1: followers on my personal account. By them taking down just

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00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: that one account, they've done more election medaling than any

911
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: of those Russian baths that they claimed have been infiltrating

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Speaker 1: on social media to affect the outcome of the election.

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Speaker 1: And it's not going to stop. They've took me down,

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Speaker 1: and then they took down David Horwitz and they've reinstalled him.

915
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Speaker 1: They took him down again. And then Carpe Donctum, who's

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Speaker 1: I guess we could call him the Secretary of Memes

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Speaker 1: for the President, is this is the guy that makes

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Speaker 1: this is Well, let's just explain Carpe Donctum for people, Mike,

919
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Speaker 1: because not everybody is like you and you and me,

920
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Speaker 1: who is glued to our compusers and our phones all day.

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Speaker 1: Carpe Donctum makes these funny parody videos, these meme style

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Speaker 1: videos where he superimposes people's heads on other people from

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Speaker 1: movies and things like that, and it's it's actually got

924
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Speaker 1: to the point where carpe donctums memes. His videos have

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Speaker 1: been tweeted out by the President of the United States

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Speaker 1: before and had massive, massive, I mean hundred of thousands,

927
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Speaker 1: if not millions of impressions over the past couple of months.

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Speaker 1: They've suspended him too. Yeah, so they suspended his account.

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Speaker 1: And then that was after a quarter me with after

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Speaker 1: by the Klasenstein brothers, who are paid trolls control every

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Speaker 1: one of Trump's tweets. They went ahead and they had

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Speaker 1: all their followers mass report a mean video of Trump

933
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Speaker 1: doing something violent towards Jim A Class, who was the

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Speaker 1: White House correspondent for CNN. Well he didn't though, and

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Speaker 1: that's and that's entirely and that's entirely the point you

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Speaker 1: see you see the video in question here. And I

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Speaker 1: know this might sound sort of insular Internet talk to

938
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Speaker 1: a lot of people out there, but actually this is

939
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Speaker 1: one of the major communications message that helped President Trump

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Speaker 1: win in two thousand and sixteen, you know, going around

941
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Speaker 1: the mainstream media and going straight to the American people

942
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Speaker 1: with with with memes. Listen, Mike, we're at the end

943
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: of the segment here, so I've got to I've got

944
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Speaker 1: to love you and leave you. I'm afraid. But Mike,

945
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Speaker 1: since his ban has become a contribute to two human

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Speaker 1: events dot Com. We've had him write an article for

947
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Speaker 1: us about his band last week, and Mike, you're going

948
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Speaker 1: to be filing another one in the next day or

949
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Speaker 1: so with us as well. So Mike Morrison, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. And make sure ladies and

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Speaker 1: gentlemen you look fund for that that opped by Mike.

952
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: Coming in the next few days is going to be legendary. Mike,

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Speaker 1: thanks again, thank you him for having me on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no problem always, And I just want to conclude that

955
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Speaker 1: thought is that this is election meddling. There cannot be

956
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: any confusion about this. Twitter, Facebook, Google, Instagram. I'm gonna

957
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: get into that a little bit more with you guys

958
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Speaker 1: as well, maybe the next segment. Stay tuned. This is

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Gassam. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: He's back with you now, because when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the fight for truth, the fuck never starts. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show. This is Rahem Causam broadcasting

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Speaker 1: live from Los Angeles. I'll give you my Twitter accounts

964
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Speaker 1: give my Twitter account and give me my my Facebook

965
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: page as well if you want to. If you want

966
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: to follow my work, it's raheem kassam R A L

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Speaker 1: L there's no L R A H E M K

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Speaker 1: A S S A M. Can find me on all

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Speaker 1: sorts of the social media type things. I think. I

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Speaker 1: hope we have a we have a caller on the line.

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Speaker 1: I want to go to line one. Um, let's let's

972
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Speaker 1: bring them in. Yeah, we have that from here. It's

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Speaker 1: Bill Bill from Oregon. Yes, Luci Bill, How are you

974
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Speaker 1: doing that for the left suffering from mathisteriod? Now? I

975
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Speaker 1: really feel they are yep, what what is? What is?

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Speaker 1: What is? What is pushing you to that conclusion right now?

977
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Speaker 1: But give me, give me, give me a punch list

978
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Speaker 1: of things that you think is hysterical? All right now?

979
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Speaker 1: It's gender identity m that's one of the latest one.

980
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, man's hysteria is one step from insanity. And

981
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: these people have control of our governmental well, I mean,

982
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Speaker 1: you know we we I think a lot of us.

983
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Speaker 1: And I was in this movie. I don't know if

984
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: you saw a bill it was called Trump at War

985
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: that came out before the midterm elections. We were warning

986
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Speaker 1: in that movie and a very short movie you can

987
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: still find it online, that this is exactly the thing,

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00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: the type of thing that would happen if the Democrats

989
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: took control of Congress. Why Bill, did the American people

990
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Speaker 1: allow the Democrats to take hold of Congress knowing what

991
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: they knew then about what the what the agenda was

992
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: going to be? I mean, what do you have to

993
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Speaker 1: say about those people who put the Rashida Talabs and

994
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Speaker 1: the elan Omar's and the Alexander Occasio cortez Is and

995
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Speaker 1: keep it clean? Bill? But what do you have to

996
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: say to those people, your fellow countrymen and women? What

997
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: I think of them? They are like a pack of sheep.

998
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: They're just being led down this road? How do we

999
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: lead them back the other way? If if if I

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Speaker 1: said to you, Bill, you're in charge of the twenty

1001
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Speaker 1: twenty Trump campaign, what does the first thing you would

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Speaker 1: do and have the president do to bring those people

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Speaker 1: back from the crazy brink. We have to get to

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Speaker 1: them somehow. We have to convince them what is going

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Speaker 1: on before it's too late? And and I think that's

1006
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: a really important point, Bill, What does too late look like?

1007
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: Is it this a quality act that we've been talking

1008
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Speaker 1: about on the case on this show. Is it open borders?

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Speaker 1: You know, there's all sorts of these crazy things? Is

1010
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Speaker 1: it the Green New Deal? Is all these crazy things

1011
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: that Democrats are pushing right now? What does too late

1012
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Speaker 1: look like? Because I get I've got to tell you,

1013
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of my American friends who thinks

1014
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: think it's already too late. The road is already set.

1015
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: But oh you but talking about the Green Deal? Okay,

1016
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: people understand what the carbon adam actually it does in

1017
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere. I don't think they do. It has a

1018
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: purpose wide set. Go ahead, Bill, you're still with us.

1019
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Speaker 1: I think we may have lost Bill there. Bill, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the frustration. I mean it's a frustration. I think

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00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people are feeling outside of the major

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Speaker 1: cities outside of Washington, DC, outside of New York, outside

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Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, which unfortunately are three of the cities

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Speaker 1: that I have to spend most of my time in.

1025
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Speaker 1: But I sensed the frustration out there when talking to

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Speaker 1: ordinary people looking at this stuff. You know, they see

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Speaker 1: it on the nightly news and it's almost sort of

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Speaker 1: a like a rubbing your eyes. I can't believe this

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Speaker 1: is actually happening in my country sort of thing. And

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Speaker 1: I feel for you because, you know, I'm obviously, as

1031
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Speaker 1: you can probably hear from my accent, not from here,

1032
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Speaker 1: and we experienced this long ago. We're now at the

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Speaker 1: point where three year olds in our classrooms are being

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Speaker 1: taught about transgender issues. That's where that's where my country,

1035
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Speaker 1: where Britain, is at the moment, and I feel the

1036
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Speaker 1: pine of hearing people going, well, what on earth is

1037
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Speaker 1: going on out there? And this is why I think

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Speaker 1: also the the home schooling issue is such as such

1039
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Speaker 1: a big boon to not American conservatism. We've got to

1040
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Speaker 1: get that out of our heads. It's not just the

1041
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Speaker 1: right that thinks a lot of these things are nuts.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a great swathe of people who identify

1043
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Speaker 1: in the middle as independence on the political left who

1044
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Speaker 1: also think that this is nuts. I mean, Dr Sheer

1045
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Speaker 1: Garrison was telling us in the first part of this

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Speaker 1: show that they've got some revolutionary leftists who were joining

1047
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Speaker 1: in their criticism of the Equality Act. The act that

1048
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Speaker 1: would allow me to just walk into a women's changing

1049
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Speaker 1: room and say I identify as woman. Now you're not

1050
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Speaker 1: allowed to question me. So I think that there is

1051
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Speaker 1: there is this strain of most of America, or at

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Speaker 1: least the bloody will hope there is that finds this

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Speaker 1: stuff repugnant and repulsive and reprehensible and regrettable. And that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of our words. I I so want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys a little bit about what we

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Speaker 1: left off just before the last break, just before we

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Speaker 1: had that great call from Bill. There we're talking about

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Speaker 1: with Mike Morrison, the digital staff, And this leads one

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Speaker 1: to the other, because I'll tell you something right now.

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Speaker 1: A couple of days before we were going to launch

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Speaker 1: relaunch the Human Events website. And for those of you

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Speaker 1: that don't know, it's the oldest conservative magazine in the

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Speaker 1: country's seventy five years old. It was Reagan's favorite magazine

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Speaker 1: and we bought it at the beginning of this year,

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Speaker 1: my business partner, Will and I. We bought at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of this year. We were relaunching it on May

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Speaker 1: the first, and three days before, two days before the

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Speaker 1: launch the relaunch, Facebook banned me, suspended me rather for

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Speaker 1: three days, just conveniently as we're about to do a

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Speaker 1: massive push across all digital media for something that had

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Speaker 1: cost us a lot of time and a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: and we've gone to a lot of effort to bring

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Speaker 1: back this great conservative magazine. They suspended my account and

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Speaker 1: they suspended the account and they said it was because

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Speaker 1: I called somebody dumb and I went on Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 1: that night and we talked about it was great. You

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Speaker 1: can find out YouTube right. But then as the band

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Speaker 1: rescinded after three days, I got a personal email. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I didn't plan to do this, but I'm going to

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Speaker 1: bring this email up in my email right now and

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Speaker 1: read it to you guys, because I think it's completely

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Speaker 1: extraordinary because it was unsolicited and it was from a

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Speaker 1: person at Facebook. Now, those of you who have contended

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Speaker 1: with an issue like this before, no, it's very difficult

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Speaker 1: to find someone at Facebook, a human being to interact with.

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Speaker 1: And I'll read you this now. It's from a lady.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to read an email. I don't want

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Speaker 1: people sending a hate mail or anything like that. It's

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Speaker 1: from a lady and she says unsolested. Remember, Hiraheem Hello.

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Speaker 1: We do not allow hate speech on Facebook because it

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Speaker 1: creates an environment of intimidation and exclusion, and in some

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Speaker 1: cases may promote real world violence. We define hate speech

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Speaker 1: as a direct attack on people based on what we

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Speaker 1: call protected characteristics race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender,

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Speaker 1: gender identity, and serious disability or disease. We also provide

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Speaker 1: some protections for immigration status. We define attack as violent

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Speaker 1: or to humanizing speech, statements of inferiority, or calls for

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Speaker 1: exclusion or segregation. We separate attacks into three tiers of severity,

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Speaker 1: as described below. Sometimes people share content containing someone else's

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Speaker 1: hate speech for the purpose of raising awareness or educating others. Similarly,

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Speaker 1: in some cases, words or terms that might otherwise violate

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Speaker 1: our standards are used self referentially or an empowering way.

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Speaker 1: When this is the case, we allow the content. We

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Speaker 1: expect people to clearly indicate their intent, which helps us

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Speaker 1: better understand why they shared it. Where the intention is unclear,

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Speaker 1: we may remove the content. We allow humor and social

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Speaker 1: commentary related to these topics. In addition, we believe that

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Speaker 1: people are more responsible when they share this kind of

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Speaker 1: commentary using their authentic identity yours blah blah blah and

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Speaker 1: what they got me on or what they thought they

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Speaker 1: got me on, what they sent to me back was

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Speaker 1: a screenshot of a comment I had made on my

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Speaker 1: page in two thousand and eight where it just says

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Speaker 1: men can't be women. So they pulled that back from

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Speaker 1: eleven years ago and said, gotcha, you intolerant bigot, you

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Speaker 1: may not use our platform. Well, I'll say it here,

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Speaker 1: men can't be women and Facebook can't suspend me. Here.

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Speaker 1: I actually sent them a very very snarky email bag,

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Speaker 1: which I'm minded to read you in the next segment. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think, I think that's exactly what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna save it for the next segment. It's very funny.

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Speaker 1: You're going to enjoy it. So make sure you don't

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Speaker 1: touch that dial, leather, knob, easel, whatever, newsle whatever you

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Speaker 1: call it. This is the Buck Sexton Show, Amrahemal. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be right back after this short break. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's the Buck Sexton Show. Is Raheim Cassalm broadcasting live

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Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. Here. Before the break, I was reading

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Speaker 1: for you an email that I got from Facebook. Quite

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary email, I thought, especially regarding protected categories, protected classes.

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Speaker 1: This is a and here's the thing. When we talk

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Speaker 1: about this issue, lot of conservatives bulk because we're talking

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Speaker 1: effectively about perhaps potentially using some kind of antitrust laws.

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Speaker 1: We're using some kind of regulatory power, or at least

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Speaker 1: legislative power to stop this tech tyranny going on, and

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Speaker 1: it is a tyranny. Let's be very clear about this.

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Speaker 1: Before I bring on a caller Felix in Pennsylvania, I

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Speaker 1: just want to set the stage here. Facebook has two

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Speaker 1: point three billion billion monthly active users. WhatsApp, which is

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Speaker 1: owned by Facebook, has one point six billion monthly users. Messenger,

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Speaker 1: the Facebook messenger app, one point three billion monthly users.

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Speaker 1: Instagram growing but one billion monthly users. Now, that is

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of people using just one company to communicate.

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Speaker 1: Compare that in contrast that to their competitors in the market.

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Speaker 1: Snapchat two hundred and eighty seven million monthly users. Twitter

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Speaker 1: only has three hundred and thirty million monthly users. Read it,

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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty million monthly users, linked In three

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Speaker 1: hundred and three million monthly users, TikTok, the ones that

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Speaker 1: the one that kids are using nowadays five hundred million

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Speaker 1: monthly users. And the one that's sort of the big

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Speaker 1: one that isn't Facebook cone is YouTube. At one point

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Speaker 1: nine billion monthly active views, but a slightly different platform,

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Speaker 1: a video platform, not a messenger or publisher in the

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Speaker 1: same sense. I want to bring in Felix on the

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Speaker 1: lines from Pennsylvania. Felix, you with us, Yes, Laura hem Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's a real pleasure to hear you. This is all mine.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. I really want to throw some blame at

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Speaker 1: the Conservatives, you know, a lot. For a long time,

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Speaker 1: they've been saying these companies, you know, they're private entities

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Speaker 1: and they have the right to do whatever they want.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but to trample on your constitutional rights in

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Speaker 1: the Constitution through these cooperations, this should not be allowed.

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Speaker 1: Freedom of speech should be freedom of speech, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that should be protected. And the public platforms are

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Speaker 1: the only place that you could got. So another phone

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Speaker 1: company is going to be able to decide, you know,

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Speaker 1: what you can say over the telephone. That's basically the

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Speaker 1: same thing. And also too of this whole thing about

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Speaker 1: you know, deciding what's hate speech. I'm sorry. I think

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Speaker 1: freedom of speech is freedom of speech, and all right,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of Felix, there's a lot to unpack there,

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Speaker 1: and I want to I want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on more of it, because it sounds to me like

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Speaker 1: you've been following this issue for some time. Because let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something, I share my frustration, the frustration

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Speaker 1: that you you so eloquently put it with conservatives on

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Speaker 1: this issue. You know, we have a lot of people

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Speaker 1: out there still saying, but raheem. These are private companies.

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Speaker 1: You can't expect them to let you use your their platform.

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Speaker 1: This is this is you know, you agree to the

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Speaker 1: terms of service, You agree to them harvesting all your

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Speaker 1: data and selling it on to other companies. You agree

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Speaker 1: to all of that, and you can't then expect anything

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Speaker 1: else in return. That's that's market capitalism. Felix, Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something for everybody out there that thinks like that.

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Speaker 1: Would you, as Felix says, would you a standby and

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Speaker 1: let your phone company without incident? Would you let them

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Speaker 1: take you off the network because they listened into your

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Speaker 1: court and they didn't like something you were saying. Would

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Speaker 1: you allow a private corporation to own every road or

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Speaker 1: every public area in the United States and police who

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Speaker 1: can be there and who can say what they like

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Speaker 1: based on what they think, based on what their religious

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Speaker 1: affiliation is, or based on what their political affiliation is,

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Speaker 1: based on how they vote. You wouldn't. You wouldn't accept that.

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Speaker 1: And the digital square is no different from the public square. Yes, fine,

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Speaker 1: we started this, Go ahead, Felix. And you're know, well,

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Speaker 1: here's another one. You know, they're saying that employers can

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Speaker 1: decide that you know, they're going to get the Second Amendment,

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Speaker 1: that they will have the right now to hire you

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Speaker 1: if you own firearms, if you're exercising your constitution worm,

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Speaker 1: if you're exercising your constitution or right, you can be

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Speaker 1: fired from your job apparently now as well. Felix. We've

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Speaker 1: got to leave it there, but I thank you for

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Speaker 1: the great call. Phelix is absolutely right. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: I take so much, so much umbradge with people out

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Speaker 1: there who just want to roll over and die on

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Speaker 1: this issue, who just want to say, you know, we

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Speaker 1: lost this war, we lost the digital war. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to get these platforms back. We've got to go

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Speaker 1: and start our own platforms. Okay, cool, Why don't you

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Speaker 1: go and start your own Internet. Let me know how

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Speaker 1: that works out for you. Because this isn't about Facebook

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Speaker 1: or Google or YouTube or whatever. It's about what all

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Speaker 1: of them are together, and what all of them are

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Speaker 1: together are effectively the Internet, are effectively social media. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can have little apps popping up here and there,

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Speaker 1: Parley and gab and all these ones. Yes they exist, fine,

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Speaker 1: But when you get to the point where these guys

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Speaker 1: in conjunction with the financial services like Stripe and PayPal

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Speaker 1: and all of these other things, and MasterCard and the

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Speaker 1: processing payment services, and then you got Uber and Lyft

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Speaker 1: banning Laura Luma and Uber Eats spanning Laura Luma. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what threat does Laura Luma, this young conservative journalist, well

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Speaker 1: threat she posed to Uber eats if she wants to

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Speaker 1: get a falafel delivered to her house at three am

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Speaker 1: in the morning. What is that any business of theirs

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Speaker 1: to say we don't like your politics, therefore we're removing

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Speaker 1: you from our app. You know, that's how far it's

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Speaker 1: already gone. So to those people out there, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, I want to make a full and open

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Speaker 1: declaration on this show right now. I've never done it before,

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Speaker 1: but let me say something to you. I used to

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Speaker 1: say that. I used to say, these are private platforms,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do about it. But there is

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Speaker 1: there's a lot we can do about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt trust busted when there was clear monopolistic, oligopolistic

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Speaker 1: cartilized power in the United States. Ronald Reagan wielded the

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Speaker 1: hammer of government when the telecommunications companies were becoming too big,

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Speaker 1: too unwieldy, and too hard to hold to account. So

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Speaker 1: let's not say that we can't do it, and let's

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Speaker 1: also not say that it isn't conservative to do it,

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Speaker 1: because what is conservatism. Cism isn't an ideology. It's not

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Speaker 1: this blind fealty to market forces and market values. And

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Speaker 1: anybody who thinks it is has not picked up a

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Speaker 1: book that hasn't been written in the last twenty or

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Speaker 1: thirty years. And I suggest you go back through the

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Speaker 1: history and through the philosophy and epistemological roots of conservatism

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Speaker 1: and school yourself because listen, you are not going to

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Speaker 1: conserve anything if you allow these Silicon Valley nut jobs

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Speaker 1: to tell you what you can and can't say and

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Speaker 1: what you can and can't believe. Fundamentally, if you do that,

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Speaker 1: you are rolling over. And on that note, I want

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Speaker 1: to read you my reply email to this woman from Facebook.

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Speaker 1: I said, and I said, her name. In return, said

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Speaker 1: dear X, thank you for the clarification. I am curious

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Speaker 1: as to under which guys you are defining said post

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Speaker 1: as hate speech, particularly as you outline yourself that religious

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Speaker 1: affiliation is a protected category. You will note that my

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Speaker 1: original post was made into and eight. And here's the kicker, guys.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I was expressing a view based on

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Speaker 1: my Muslim faith, and I suppose you know back then

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Speaker 1: I probably was still, at least in some way of

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Speaker 1: practicing Muslim. I'm not anymore. For those wondering, your attack

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Speaker 1: on my religious beliefs can therefore be constituted as hate

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Speaker 1: speech themselves, can they not? Furthermore, you will note that

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Speaker 1: at no point have I called for the exclusion of anyone,

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Speaker 1: nor the persecution. Quite the opposite. My approach to this

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Speaker 1: issue is predicated on statistical information that reveals that those

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Speaker 1: of transpersuasions are no less likely to suffer depression and

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Speaker 1: suicide than those who do not adhere to a current

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Speaker 1: gender dysphoria proposition of changing their gender status. It would

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Speaker 1: logically follow, based on your suppositions, that Facebook's position is

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Speaker 1: both anti Islam and pro suicide. If that is the case,

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Speaker 1: I would be keen to know as with the world.

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Speaker 1: That was my letter to Facebook. This is the buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. We'll be right back after this, prey buck

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Speaker 1: sextending the news and disseminating information with actionable intelligence. Make

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Speaker 1: no mistake, American, You're a great American. Again. This is

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. Thomas Cia Analyst, Remember set no

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Speaker 1: welcome back. It's the Buck Sexton Show. I'm filling in

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Speaker 1: for Buck Sextons today. My name is Rheim Kasama, the

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Speaker 1: global editor in chief of human Events dot com. For

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Speaker 1: all your conservative magazine needs. I'll do a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a little bit of a plug for Human Events

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Speaker 1: as well. We had a great, great article today written

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Speaker 1: by our next guest, Dave Riboy, who's a good friend

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Speaker 1: of mine, fellow fellow at the Claremont Institute. Dave joins

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Speaker 1: us on the line now, Dave, thank you, Hello, Hello, Everyboddy,

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Speaker 1: Hey Dave. It's so great, so great to have you on,

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Speaker 1: not least because I think I'm now talking to the

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Speaker 1: new face, So the new anti face of chips ahoy,

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Speaker 1: is that right? There's there's what you called the cardboard

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Speaker 1: cookies in your article. Yeah, I mean it's I if

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Speaker 1: chip Sohoy decides that it wants to run a really

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Speaker 1: provocative new campaign. I guess, I guess I'm available. Tell people,

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Speaker 1: tell people, Tell people who haven't heard of this because

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Speaker 1: you were kind of trending, you were kind of viral

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Speaker 1: this morning. Um, having having seen this in fact, what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do, Dave, just to tee this up. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna play clip sixteen, which is the advertisement that chips

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Speaker 1: Ahoy released for Mother's Day of a of a trans

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Speaker 1: person talking about buying chips ahoy for your mother for

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Speaker 1: Mother's Day. And then we're gonna we're gonna see how

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Speaker 1: old this played out. Let's play clip sixteen. Johanna, what

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Speaker 1: we celebrate today Mother's Day? And I am so thankful

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Speaker 1: to have a mother like mine who supports me through

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Speaker 1: all my craziness and loves on me and buys me

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Speaker 1: chips Ahoy cookies. Should we do original everything under the

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Speaker 1: side of my mom knows I love my cookie, So

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Speaker 1: get those cookies. And what's the sweet jest so for

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Speaker 1: you to do to your mama, your real mama, your

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Speaker 1: dragon mama. What's you have a mama? Somebody whoever take

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Speaker 1: care of you, whoever you feel or consider your mama.

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Speaker 1: It's to day today. Get them a cookie too, a

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Speaker 1: pack bottom on it. It's ahoys in the world, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but get some milk. Get us some milk too.

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Speaker 1: You can't buy the cookie about some mail, Connie, get

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Speaker 1: those cookies. It's Mother's Day, it's time to celebrate. Love

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Speaker 1: on it cookies. Get them. And if you don't, how

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Speaker 1: are you going to celebrate Mother's Day? It's the new chocolates.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be buying chips. Ahoy? After that?

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Speaker 1: Was that really? Like? What the heck? Seriously, what the

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Speaker 1: heck was that? And who was that marketed towards? So? Right? Right?

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Speaker 1: Will you tell you? Tell me? You tell me you're

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Speaker 1: the American cookies? Cookies are in your constitution, right, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure they're in the Declaration of Independence? Dave? What

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Speaker 1: was that about? Look I got I saw that and

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Speaker 1: immediately I thought to myself, you know what, I just

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01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: I want to do some kind of protest against this.

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Speaker 1: Um this uh, this kind of folke advertising bs, which

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: which is um it's kind of a trend now um

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost like um, it's almost like ad

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Speaker 1: companies and UM and and corporations have have just kind

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: of um, have have just gone rogue and decided, you

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01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: know what, um, you know, let's give the middle finger

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Speaker 1: to our customers and let's just cater exclusively to you know,

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Speaker 1: ultra woke progressives and um and generate controversy by by

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Speaker 1: doing things like this, by by provoking you know, the

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Speaker 1: average the average person. UM. I'm not saying that, uh,

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Speaker 1: chips Ahwaii needs to do a you know, a wholesome

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Speaker 1: Norman Rockwell American a Mother's Day ad. No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, why why do you need to

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Speaker 1: shove to shove a drag queen down the throat of

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Speaker 1: and you know, frankly, a semi literate drag queen with

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Speaker 1: all these kind of absurd affectations that that that you know,

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Speaker 1: that that make no sense to me, But I guess

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Speaker 1: that makes sense to someone. And sorry, I just I well,

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Speaker 1: on Madison Avenue, you know, everyone dresses in cross dressing anyway,

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Speaker 1: and I realized that on this show already, I've said

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Speaker 1: two incorrect things because a drag queen isn't a transgender

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Speaker 1: right and so and I describe this person's transgender but

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Speaker 1: apparently this is just drag. And then I just said

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Speaker 1: cross dressing, which I imagine is totally offensive and beyond

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Speaker 1: the pale, and that the lapd will be turning up

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Speaker 1: at my hotel room tonight to to take me in

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Speaker 1: as it were. Dave, Dave, how far does this need

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Speaker 1: to go? Because there's this I'm gonna I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something like, maybe a little controversial here,

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Speaker 1: but I think I think it was a better country when, um,

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Speaker 1: when we did not have to know, we were not

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Speaker 1: required almost by law, um to know the difference between

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Speaker 1: trans drag, um, cross dresser, etc. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: all this, all this terminology. Hey, if people want to

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Speaker 1: use this terminology, that's fine. That people want to know

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Speaker 1: what it is, that's fine. But um, but setting the

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Speaker 1: bar at being in polite, acceptable society, virtuous society as

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Speaker 1: having to kind of know and understand and embrace these things,

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Speaker 1: I think it's wrong. And your article, your article on

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Speaker 1: human events today, I remember the line that made me

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Speaker 1: before the most was close to the end the penultimate paragraph,

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Speaker 1: you said, interestingly, the gradual cultural normalization of what was

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Speaker 1: once the province of fetish and kink has accelerated, and

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Speaker 1: rather than making culture more interesting and provocative, it's made

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Speaker 1: these wants taboo things utterly dull, commercialized and gratingly performative.

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Speaker 1: And I think that was that was the kicker, because

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Speaker 1: you've had Gillette doing it, You've had other companies doing it,

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Speaker 1: and you know, there's an old Latin saying, Dave get

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Speaker 1: go broke. When are these companies going to start seeing

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Speaker 1: the bottom line eventualities of doing this stuff? Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's got to come soon. It

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Speaker 1: really has to come soon, because because they all seemed

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Speaker 1: to be complete, um, they all seem to be completely um,

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Speaker 1: you know, off the off the deep end until I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know how these things go. You know, it goes

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Speaker 1: forever until it doesn't and then and then you know,

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Speaker 1: and then you might you may see a see a ship.

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Speaker 1: But I think really they're they're they're so impervious to

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Speaker 1: what the average person thinks because they see they see

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Speaker 1: they see us. Frankly, they see us as the animals

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Speaker 1: that uh, you know, who are um, who are not

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Speaker 1: even fit to hold an opinion. You know, if we

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Speaker 1: disagree with if we disagree with the most um, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote forward thinking, progressive, radical, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: social cultural policy, then then we're we're haters, and we're

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Speaker 1: vicious and evil and and we shouldn't even you know,

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Speaker 1: we we shouldn't even be given a platform in which

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Speaker 1: to speak. So so of course they're not even going

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Speaker 1: to listen to our objections or the objections of most

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Speaker 1: of their customers. They'll they'll discounted entirely. UM. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what what this says about the future, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I'm confident there will be a

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Speaker 1: be a you know, some kind of backlash when this

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Speaker 1: just gets to be too much, because it is of

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Speaker 1: a piece with d platforming, It is of a piece

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Speaker 1: with censorship, um and um and a sense that I

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Speaker 1: mentioned the Caitlin Jenner episode in UM in the Peace

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Speaker 1: also because I really think that that sort of that

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Speaker 1: was a turning point in twenty sixteen, I think early

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen where kind of culturally we went from thinking

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Speaker 1: that the trans thing was a kind of weird, niche

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Speaker 1: thing that that you know, people did, um and and

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Speaker 1: kind of overnight the media tells us that if we

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Speaker 1: don't embrace this as the most wonderful um, you know,

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Speaker 1: evolution in society. Then then we're some then we're monsters. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think immediately a lot of people sort of looked

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Speaker 1: around and they thought, what just happened to my country?

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Speaker 1: And what just what just happened to you know, more importantly,

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Speaker 1: like what just happened to my you know, Western civilization?

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Speaker 1: And U well, you're not allowed to say that. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you no, sure, you're certainly not allowed to say Western civilization.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's needlessly provocative. And you know, on the

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Speaker 1: one hand, they tell us that it's the most evil

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Speaker 1: thing in the world to say. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: they tell us that it doesn't exist and it never did. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: and on the third hand, because you know, if you

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Speaker 1: can if a man can be a woman, and I

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Speaker 1: can have a third hand on the third hand, it's

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Speaker 1: a better than a third leg if on the third hand,

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Speaker 1: that dave you. You've also got them saying, well, we've

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Speaker 1: got to let all these immigrants move to the West

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Speaker 1: because the West is much better and safer and they

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Speaker 1: get more rights and all of that. Well, you know

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01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 1: that came about because Western civilization came first in realizing

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Speaker 1: that we weren't supposed to slaughter each other on mass

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01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: and that we weren't supposed to, you know, oppress each other.

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Speaker 1: It's probably not a good idea to throw gay people

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Speaker 1: off the top of buildings and all of that stuff, right,

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01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: And and we're there and they still are in denial

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 1: about all of it. Right. Yeah. Look, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's nothing lasts forever, and Dave, we got to We've

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Speaker 1: got to leave it there. I'm sorry I ranted a

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01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: little bit too long, but Dave, help tell people where

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01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: they can find your work, where they can where they

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01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: can tweet at you and support you and all of

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01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: that stuff. You can find me at Dave reeboy R

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Speaker 1: d A V E R E A b R I

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, and you can see my most recent piece

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01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: at human Events, um my most recent last two pieces

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: of human Events. And then you can also see me

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: at the Federalist and its security studies. Out of work.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Dave or Boy. This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: My name's Raheim Gassam. I'm joined now in studio by

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Speaker 1: good buddy of mine, Matt Peterson from the Claremont Institute.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a quick break before we bring

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Speaker 1: matt in form more and more cultural commentary and cutting wit.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back. This is the Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I'm Raheim Gassam. They had in chief, global

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Speaker 1: editor in chief, sorry, pardon me of Human Events dot

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Speaker 1: Com joined in our makeshift studio. It acs you pretty nice,

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Speaker 1: pretty clean studio here in Los Angeles? Is it is

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: this los Angeles? Is this still Los Angeles? You're in

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Speaker 1: the greater Los Angeles, Los Angeles area. Then let me

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01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: tell you something I walked around a bit earlier. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing greater about it. This is Shermon Oaks, Sherman Oaks, Um,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Peterson. Do you prefer Matthew or matt matt is fine?

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Speaker 1: Matt is fine? What about Matthews? Matthew not fine? Matthew

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Speaker 1: was good too. Is the vice president of education at

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Speaker 1: the Claremont Institute. And the editor is an editor or

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Speaker 1: editor in chief. It's you know, I don't go with

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Speaker 1: this global editor type thing, but but it is, yes,

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Speaker 1: editor in chief. I guess you could say domestic editor

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Speaker 1: in chief. Then of the American Mind, which is a

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Speaker 1: great new publication of the Claremont Institute. And full disclosure.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Lincoln Fellow at the Claremont Institute. It's American

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Speaker 1: Mind dot org, where they postum some of the most

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Speaker 1: thoughtful articles you'll ever read. But also I'm led to

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Speaker 1: believe some of the spiciest articles based on what you're

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01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: telling me. What you're telling me in the break about

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Speaker 1: what you've been publishing today. We'll come to that in

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Speaker 1: just a second. I know we've got a caller on

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Speaker 1: the line, Josiah in Maryland, who wants to have his say. Josiah,

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Speaker 1: you're welcome to the show. Oh we lost Josiah. Josiah,

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Speaker 1: if you're out there, if you're still listening, give us

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01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: a callback. We're very keen to take points, counterpoints, whatever

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Speaker 1: you've got for us. Matt, I guess that throws it

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Speaker 1: to you. You highlighted for me this American Mind article

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Speaker 1: of creed and culture in clown World, written by the

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Speaker 1: pseudonymous Andrea Yang for the American Mind dot org. Tell

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Speaker 1: us about this article, is it? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: This is a young conservative, someone who is was a

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Speaker 1: young conservative, someone who's obviously very intelligent, who works within

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01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: the swamp and is writing an article in response to

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Speaker 1: a conversation on American mind about creed and culture, and

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01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: and what we were talking about was you both need

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Speaker 1: a healthy culture and that informs the creed or what

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01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: you think the principles and purposes of your political life

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01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: are right and vice versa. Those things interact with each other.

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Speaker 1: And so so this article is someone who's younger saying, look,

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Speaker 1: the right has has to acknowledge that it's essentially failed,

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01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: it has not achieved its goals. And now we live

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Speaker 1: in a kind of clown world in which in which

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01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: there's you know, it's a it's a it's a bunch

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01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: of fun house mirrors everywhere you look, and it's very

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Speaker 1: hard she says, as for me as a young person

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01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: to take it serious and so uh. And so she

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01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 1: ends up advocating for a radical rethinking of policy and

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: in a way that I think is controversial to too

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01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 1: many of us. We were talking about this with David

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 1: boy earlier in the in the hour, talking about how

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Speaker 1: we've got to this point now where and because I

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Speaker 1: mislabeled something the chips Ahoy cross dresser who was advertised

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01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 1: cardboard cookies from Mother's Day, that's that's a cross dresser,

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01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: and I said trans and apparently they're not the same thing.

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01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: And so you know, it's that's what the what do

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Speaker 1: you call it? The Hall of mirrors is about? Right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm confused on a daily basis now. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if I meet someone in the street, and I've got

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01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 1: no problem, like you know, meeting a trans person and

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Speaker 1: shaking their hand is going about my day. I don't

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01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: care what you want to do, right, But if I

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Speaker 1: meet them and I wrongly label them or miss gender them,

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Speaker 1: or call them a cross dresser or a transvesti or whatever,

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Speaker 1: I'm in some real trouble now. I mean in Canada,

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01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: i'd be in real, real trouble. I'd be in legal trouble, right,

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01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: But that's coming here to America. That's you know, the

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Speaker 1: Equality Act that Democrats are trying to pass at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Basically undergods all of that with legislation. Yes, yeah, So

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Speaker 1: what you have is is is clown world to be enforced, right,

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Speaker 1: multiculturalism officially, and of course by that term, they don't

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01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: mean many cultures coming together as one. They mean something

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01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: very different. And what she says in this piece I

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01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: think is instructive. This is an American mind dot Org.

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01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: She says, clown world is used to describe instances of

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Speaker 1: abasement that at any other point in history to any

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Speaker 1: person of dignity would be regarded as incomprehensible, incomprehensibly evil,

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Speaker 1: or stupid, so outrageous they must be a joke. So

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Speaker 1: she says, state enforced sexual transition, hormones for children, right,

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Speaker 1: drag Queen story hour, voting rights for terrorists, and says

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01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,440
Speaker 1: this is Aristophanes with a shot of Nietzsche, some classical

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01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: allusions to those who still read old books. But then

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01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: she goes on to complain that you have woke capital, right,

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01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 1: you have these supposed this supposedly neutral free market in

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: which mainstream and powerful institutions, banks and airlines, etc. Are

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01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: all getting in on political correctness and enforcing this kind

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01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: of dogma on the rest of us. And I think

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01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: what's what's especially hateful to me about it is that

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01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 1: is that the implication is if you don't keep up

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01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: with all these fads, you somehow don't love your fellow citizens, right,

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01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 1: whereas the other side would say, no, we are one

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01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: and we're equal as citizens. That's that's how we should

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01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 1: all be interacting on that basis and not any other.

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01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: That's how it used to be. And I've got to

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: tell you that, you know, the European situation. How when

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: was the last time you're in Europe, Matt? It was

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01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: the can Film Festival and twenty fourteen. Ever, Oh wow,

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I wish I wish I could say the same, not

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01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: least because I haven't been to can and that I've

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01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: been back to both the UK and Europe in the

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01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: last year on multiple occasions, and it's not getting better.

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01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: The tooth based cannot be put back in the tube now,

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01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: you know, once this stuff has been enshrined, as they're

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01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: trying to do, as the Democrats are trying to do

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01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: with the Equality Act right now, once this stuff has

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01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:46,480
Speaker 1: been tried, there is literally no way to say, actually,

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01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 1: we're reversing that trend. We no longer have to legally

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01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: recognize all that way. It's just not possible, right. And

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01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: it's the same argument, unfortunately, that I hear from time

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Speaker 1: and time again from social conservatives. They say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got to reverse the Same Sex Marriage Act.

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01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,759
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. There is simply no national appetite

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Speaker 1: for it. Yeah. Look, I think that I think there's

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01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 1: a there's a number of things going on. I mean,

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01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: all of this stuff should be hashed out politically, right,

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01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 1: we should debate as a people what we think certain

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01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: the legal structure of the land should look like. So, uh,

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01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: you know, there should be lots of deliberation and debate

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01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: about controversial issue issues, especially to do with sexuality. But

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Speaker 1: but I do think that there's a there's a danger

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Speaker 1: here in enforcing this kind of thing from on high.

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01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: And I think there's many on the left to understand this.

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01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: When you when you rush to enforce things with say

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01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: court decisions, you haven't organically changed everyone's mind. So I

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Speaker 1: would say, you see among among Generation Z kids right,

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01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: a very interesting difference. They haven't they haven't gone through

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01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 1: the normal brainwashing of the mainstream media and watch cable

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01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 1: TV and etcetera their old lives, and they think a

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Speaker 1: little differently, sometimes radically, on these subjects. So I think

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Speaker 1: there's a conversation they say radically, Actually, yeah, it's not.

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01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: It's actually considered they think conservatively. You know. The radical

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01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: thing to me is forcing me to know somebody's twenty

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01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: different gender pronouns that they want to use on the

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01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: twelve different occasions I meet them. But these guys are

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01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: actually returning to a little bit of orthodoxy as regards um,

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01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, rights are concerned, Natural rights are concerned. And

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Speaker 1: in the United States, of course, your constitutional values and rights,

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01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: whereas the the you know, the radical and and here's

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Speaker 1: the funny thing about it, Matt, and we've got we've

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Speaker 1: got just sixty seconds before we got to we've got

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Speaker 1: to go to break again. But I just I can't

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Speaker 1: tell if it's because America doesn't really consume news from

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01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: elsewhere in the world, because it doesn't, you know, frankly,

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01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: it's not I'm not making a value judgment over that.

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01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: It just isn't something that Americans typically tend to do.

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01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 1: I can't tell if it's that or if it's just

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01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: sort of this lack of dacicle. Yes, we'll survive any way,

1607
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,759
Speaker 1: regardless as to whether or not things like the Equality

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01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: Act pass. That means people don't get up in arms

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01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: about this, because let me tell you something, if I

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Speaker 1: was listening to this show, this radio show right now,

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01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 1: I'd be thinking, Wow, what a magnificent accent that Chap has.

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01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 1: But I'd also be thinking, I want to call my congressman.

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01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: I want to call my senators. I want to stop

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01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: this from happening, and it just seems that there's not

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01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: much of that going on right now. That's the music,

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01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: you know. I like the sound of my own voice, Matt.

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01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: So I'll just talk us out here. Yeah, I'm used

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Speaker 1: to it. I'm used to it. We're gonna have you

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01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: for the next half an hour as well, so you're

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01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: gonna have plenty of time to have You'll say, this

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Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem causam. We'll be

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01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: right back. He's back with you now, because when it

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01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, It's the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem disam.

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01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: Joined in studio by Matt Peterson, the vice president of

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01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,799
Speaker 1: Education at the Claremont Institute and the editor of American

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Speaker 1: Mind dot org. Got it, got it perfect, Matt. Welcome

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01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: to the show. Great to be welcome back to the show.

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01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: You were here in the last segment too. It's still

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01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:05,840
Speaker 1: great to be here. You were supposed to be here

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01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: thirty minutes ago. You broke the bro code. It's great

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01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: to be here now, Matt. The reason I'm in town.

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01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I'm in town one of the

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01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: one of the two reasons I'm in town one of

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01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,520
Speaker 1: the three if you count the women. One of the

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Speaker 1: three reasons I'm in town is I was attending the

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Speaker 1: Claremont Institute's fortieth anniversary Garla dinner on something night Saturday. Yeah,

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01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: all of them blend into one for me now at

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01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: the moment, you know, long l a night. Man, it's

1640
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: just like, you know, this looks West Palm Beach. I'm here,

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01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: and I'm there, and I'm in DC and it's all

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01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: hot and sticky and muggy, and it's just everything is

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01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: now just one for me. So I was there on

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Speaker 1: a night and Mike Pompeio, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo

1645
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: was the keynote speaker, which is quite a good get.

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01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: So muz Altov in the first in the first order

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01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 1: on that conversation. But I want to get into what

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01:31:55,120 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 1: Secretary Pompeo said with you right now, because actually he

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01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: he gosh, I don't know how to quite say this.

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01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: He flabbergasted a lot of the audience with his real

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01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: conservative wokeness. I think, yes, I think there has been

1652
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 1: some concern and consternation on the political right that Mike

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01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Pompeo has been chasing, this intervention in Venezuela, for instance.

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Speaker 1: But tell us a little bit about the standout moments

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01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: for you in that speech, and and then I'll tell

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01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: you min Okay, sure. So first off, this this was

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Speaker 1: the fortieth anniversary gallo right in Beverly Hills for the

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01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Claremont Institute, which exists to promote the principles of the

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Speaker 1: American Founding in American political life today. As you might imagine,

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01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 1: that's a difficult task. And the Claremont Institute is based

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01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 1: in southern California to boot. So this was our big

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01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 1: fortieth and to have the Secretary of State there was

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Speaker 1: a great honor of Victor Davis. Hansen was MC. It

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01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: was fantastic evening. But I think he actually really broke

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01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: some news. Right. He gave an account for a Trumpian,

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01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:57,480
Speaker 1: if you will, foreign policy that was much less interventionist,

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Speaker 1: I think than some of us might have thought. So

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Speaker 1: he said that America after the Cold War quote, had

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Speaker 1: become unrestrained, untethered from common sense. That he said, the

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Speaker 1: institutions that we built to defend ourselves against the Soviet

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01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: Union had drifted from their mission, right, um, and uh,

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Speaker 1: And he said we ended up we bought into the

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Speaker 1: trade agreements. He said that helped hallow out our own

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01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: middle class. We sacrificed American competitiveness for accolades from the

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Speaker 1: UN and climate activists, and we engaged in conflicts without

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01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 1: a clear sense of mission. And then he said no more. Right. So,

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Speaker 1: so I think that was that was very interesting. I

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Speaker 1: believe that Walter Mead already is written on this, and

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal is saying this is about as

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Speaker 1: comprehensive a statement you you might get or that's been

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Speaker 1: written so far about Trump's foreign policy. Right. And he

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01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: did say, quote, how about restraint. The Founders sought to

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Speaker 1: protect our interests but avoid adventurism. And I think that

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01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: was a very important part of the speech. It had me,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you know what I'm like of these

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01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: gladen is you know, I'm just trying to find where

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01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: the balls of wine exactly what. But it even had

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01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: me sort of at the age of my seat going, well,

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Speaker 1: hold on a minute. This is very interesting because as

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Speaker 1: the as the world waits with bated breath, um to

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01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: to see what America does about Venezuela, you have the

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State, the country's foremost diplomat, saying no to

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01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 1: to military adventurism. Yeah. I think that I think that

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01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 1: that is heartening for many of us who would like

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01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 1: to see a reform of American foreign policy after the

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01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: last fifteen twenty years. And uh, there's certainly a you know,

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Speaker 1: you Davor boy on earlier. I mean, he's no stranger

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Speaker 1: to these this sort of discussion. I think that it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a welcome talk. They were welcome comments from

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01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: from many of us from the Secretary of State, um

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01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: and and a real rejection of the kind of you know,

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01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: globalism and the worst possible sense. And he was funny

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01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: throughout that. I didn't think he was going to be funny,

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01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: but he was funny as well. Yes, I want to

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01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I want to pivot real quick to a couple of

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01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: the other issues he raised, one of them being, um,

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01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: the Google censorship, right, the claim on institute itself experienced

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01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: ahead of the Galla dinners. So you just explain you

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01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: were trying to advertise ticket sales on Google and they

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01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: stopped you because of this essay on the site. Yeah.

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01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: So we we we have this essay on the site

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01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 1: called defend America defeat multiculturalism, which right away gets people's attention,

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01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? But what it's about is

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01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 1: is how identity politics and political correctness are a very

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01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: serious foe right now. They're actively destroying America. And one

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01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: of the main problems we have is that they want

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01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: to crush any kind of speech or dissent by saying

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01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 1: it is off, it's off the books. Right, this is

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01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 1: this is unacceptable, and this is acceptable, and we get

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01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: to determine what's acceptable and not right. So that's part

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01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 1: of the speech. Our president, Ryan Williams wrote this essay.

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01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,759
Speaker 1: It launched our campaign against multiculturalism going into the twenty

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01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: twenty election. So anyway, we put this essay up and

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01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, we promote it, and we wanted that's on

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01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 1: the site. But what we really wanted to promote was

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01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: then we just had on Saturday in Beverly Hills with

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of State. So the way Google works is

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01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 1: you go to them and you say, look, I want everyone.

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01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: They're tracking everything we do, right, they know everything about us.

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01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 1: They track who goes to what website. So you say, look,

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01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: I have this website and I'd like you to advertise

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01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: everyone who goes to this website for our gala dinner.

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01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: So please advertise all the audience of the American Mind,

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01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: everyone who visits the American events behold them. That's six

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01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: billion people exactly, and growing, I mean and growing, and

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01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,879
Speaker 1: with the pronatalist policies that I want us to adopt,

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01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,839
Speaker 1: they'll be even more. It's like human events were billions, billions, billions.

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01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: So American Mind dot org, right, we advertise for it.

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01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: For we advertise the readers of the site for the

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01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: fortieth anniversary gala with Secretary Pompey. When we get an

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01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: email from Google and it says, I'm sorry, we can't

1742
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: advertise to readers of this site because this site violates

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01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 1: our policy on racial grounds. So we ask, after two

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01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: hours with a large conglomerate, what exactly does it violate? Right,

1745
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:03,839
Speaker 1: it violates the see because it's racially or ethnically orientated content.

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01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 1: We called it. We said, is there any way to

1747
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: appeal this? And the lady on the phone said no,

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01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: And so then uh Laurel does digital work at her office.

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01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 1: She called again and the second time she heard that

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01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: as they looked at the site. Though there's many, many

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01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: potential violations, all over the American Mind. It's it's violations

1752
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 1: all over the place, right, and so so we thought, well,

1753
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. I mean, how can it be racially

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01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 1: or ethnically orientated when our argument, in fact is against

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01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: race based politics and tribalism. Yeah, well, hold on a minute.

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01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: The name of the site though, the American Mind. That's

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01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: kind of bigoted, in xenophobic. Well you know, what about

1758
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 1: the what about the Tonguan mind? You know, why don't

1759
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: you have a subcategory for for the Nepalese mind? Yes,

1760
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: you know, the Madagascon mind and for the more I mean,

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01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: isn't isn't mind? I mean kind of discriminatory. I mean

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01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,839
Speaker 1: it's disable. What about those who don't have a mind? Exactly?

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01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 1: It's it's a disabled list. You're you're offending people, this

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01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: is true, who are vegetables and cannot think, you know,

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01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: for themselves. This is outrageous. Yeah, you've got to change

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01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: the website to just the dot org okay, and put

1767
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 1: on it exactly what Google wants us to put up, yes,

1768
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: which is just a link to Google. So so I'll

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01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 1: finish this story, right. I mean, we put out we

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01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: question twice and we get nowhere. There's no appeal, and

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01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: there's many violations. But Ryan wrote an article. We put

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01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: it up on the American Mine and within forty within

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01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, Google had called us up and said,

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01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 1: you know, we apologize. This was a mistake somewhere down

1775
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: the line all a big mistake. Mistakes were made, Mistakes

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01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: were made. You know, they do this with me all

1777
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: the time, and earlier on and you heard me read

1778
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: that Facebook email. How you've been through it multiple I've

1779
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: been through it multiple times, and every single time it's

1780
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: either oh it was a mistake or oh it's only

1781
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: a temporary thing. You'll be all right, pat on the head,

1782
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 1: off you go. But there are there are hundreds and

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01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: dare i say thousands of people who want a daily

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01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: basis across America having their accounts band for expressing moderate

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01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 1: even conservative opinions. And there are big names and people

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01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 1: with millions upon millions of followers or millions in reach

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01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 1: who are becoming you know, who are being slaughtered off

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01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 1: these platforms. Is this election meddling? Well say I would,

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01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 1: I would put it. I can go to break. I'm

1790
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: not just gonna say whatever you want me to say.

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01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Google clearly clearly, anytime you manipulate the media that has

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01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 1: that has an impact on elections. And I think what

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01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,520
Speaker 1: the Republicans need to understand, as my new friend Harmy

1794
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: Dylan says a lawyer on this issue, is very good.

1795
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 1: They have the power to make sure you never win

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01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:44,439
Speaker 1: a national election again. Yeah, I mean that power actually exists, right,

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01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: So the question is how is that power going to

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01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 1: be used? And at the very least, there's all kinds

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01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: of complications here and things that we might do to

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01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 1: solve this problem. But at the very least, we have

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01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: to push back and help people push back when they

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01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 1: are silenced. And if we don't that, I mean, it's

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01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: it's it's going to move in one direction, and we

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01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: know what direction that is. In any event, it was

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01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: great that the Secretary of State actually made in our

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01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 1: hand remark. You know, this is this is actually really good.

1807
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: We've got to do this more in the in the future.

1808
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: I've got to fly out to a later co host

1809
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: radio show. Yes, so this is this is top quality banter,

1810
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 1: political banter at its finest. Matt Peterson, the Vice Vice

1811
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: president for Education at the claimant issue, maybe better after

1812
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: a drink, well suit up. Yeah, suit up because we'll

1813
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: be we'll be drinking later tonight in in Los Angeles

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01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: somewhere in an undisclosed location and an underground bunker. Um.

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01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 1: And you're also the editor of American Mind dot org.

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01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break now, and in

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01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: that break, I expect everyone, especially if you're not driving,

1818
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,640
Speaker 1: in fact, only if you're not driving, to go to

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01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: American Mind dot org and check it out. It's an

1820
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic website and I wholeheartedly endorse what Matt and

1821
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:49,640
Speaker 1: the team are doing over there. Quick break. Now, when

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01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:51,799
Speaker 1: we come back, Matt and I are going to maybe debate,

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01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: but what we're going to talk about is we talked

1824
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: about the problem. What is the solution to this tech

1825
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 1: censorship thing? Because I am tired of these boomers establishment

1826
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 1: conservative in conservatives going you can't touch the free market

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01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: the Facebook, it's a private company. We're gonna we're gonna

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01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 1: dissect that right here on the Buck Sexton Show. I'm

1829
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 1: Raheem Kassam. That's Matt Peterson. Stay tuned, Welcome back to

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01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemcasalm, editor in chief of

1831
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: Human Events dot com, filling in for Buck Sexton in

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01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles department of the Freedom Hut, joined in

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01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: studio by Matt Peterson, the editor of American Mind dot Org. Matt,

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01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for being here. It's it certainly takes

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01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: the takes the weight off my shoulders to have an

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01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 1: erudite and grandiloquent American bolding. Love hearing that, you know, ladies, gentlemen,

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01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 1: I always like to make sure that we thank all

1838
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: the producers and the production staff and everybody at the

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01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: studios here for helping us make sure this broadcast goes fantastically.

1840
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,560
Speaker 1: So thank you to Mike and all the team in

1841
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: New York. This this, this whole thing is such a

1842
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 1: palava to put together when we're all on the road. Um,

1843
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 1: And I'm just very very grateful for them, and I'm

1844
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 1: grateful for you guys out there. If you like the show,

1845
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 1: tweet at me, tweet at Buck Sexton. I'm at Raheem Ghassan.

1846
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 1: It's rah e E M K A s A M

1847
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Let us let us know what you think, um,

1848
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: and if you don't like it, you can shove it.

1849
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: But but you don't you don't like it, you love it. Um,

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01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 1: that's a that's a Weezer line. It's from the song

1851
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,880
Speaker 1: the Greatest Man That Ever Lived? Did you know that? Wow? Yeah,

1852
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: you know. I was thinking of an earlier song from

1853
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Take this job and show it,

1854
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,839
Speaker 1: you know, classic kind of country and Western. And Weser

1855
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: also wrote the song Beverly Hills, which is where I've

1856
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: spent the last couple of days. So just bringing it

1857
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 1: full circle, that is correct, like any great radio host does. Yes,

1858
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: ties together exactly latest news and last a couple of hours,

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01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 1: Richard Burr relents on the Trump Junior subpoena, agrees to

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01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: strict limits on scope and the length of the interview.

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01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: So it looks like all the pressure that Conservatives put

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01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 1: on Senator Richard Burr over the last few days paying

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01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 1: off for Donald Junior, who's already spent hours upon hours

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01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: upon hours testifying front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. And

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01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: of course, yesterday the great news that came out Bill

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Speaker 1: Barr appointing a prosecutor to examine the origins of the

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01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 1: Russia conspiracy theory probe. I have a feeling things are

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01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: going to get very, very difficult for Jim Comey and

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01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Clapper and even Barack Obama to some extent with the

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Speaker 1: with you know, how how much did the President of

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01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,880
Speaker 1: the United States at the time know was going on

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01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 1: with regard this this These fires are warrants? What was

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01:43:42,360 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: going on all there? So really really sort of sexy

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01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 1: and interesting times in American politics. And I've got to

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01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 1: tell you, Matt, and I wonder if you feel the

1876
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: same way. I am kind of getting tired of winning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love this tiredness. Then I love this kind of

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01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,440
Speaker 1: tired We need more of it. And the slow, inexorable

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01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 1: turn of the collusion the story has been really a

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01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 1: wonderful thing to witness and see right, I mean, we

1881
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: crossed a point of diminishing returns after the Mulla report,

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01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 1: and now you see the wheels starting to come off.

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01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 1: And as long as the right thing happens, which is

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01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: that pressure is put on this story, that the Attorney

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Speaker 1: General goes after it, you're going to see all kinds

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Speaker 1: of good results. I mean, I like to say that

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Speaker 1: these days, CNN is the Ivy League version of info Wars.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're at the point at which

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Speaker 1: mainstream media is peddling all kinds of wild stories and

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Speaker 1: they're going to pay for it. Ratings wise in the

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Speaker 1: next two years, just to bring us back to something

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Speaker 1: we're not winning on at the moment. It appears to

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Speaker 1: be the tech and digital media stuff, right. And we

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Speaker 1: talked before the break about the free markets response to this.

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Speaker 1: Where where do you stand? I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: speak for the Clamalton Institute when you talk about this,

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Speaker 1: but where do you stand Matt Peterson on this issue?

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Speaker 1: How do you address the sort of mainstream conservatives like

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Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro who go out there and say you don't

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Speaker 1: have a right to platform access? Yeah, well, well I

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Speaker 1: can speak I mean both as vice president of education

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Speaker 1: at the Claremont Institute, where we have these wonderful fellowships

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Speaker 1: where we do educate elite leaders, and as an editor

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Speaker 1: of The American Mind. I think this is an important

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Speaker 1: discussion that needs to happen. It's a complicated issue. And

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Speaker 1: if you'd simply say, oh, no, there's nothing you can do,

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Speaker 1: it's a private company, I think you're living in a

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Speaker 1: fantasy world. I mean, I don't know what kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, cartoon world it is, where oh, there's just

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Speaker 1: free markets and these businesses do whatever they want. No. No,

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Speaker 1: At the very least you'd have consumer unions, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've been talking to some friends about this. At least

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Speaker 1: you'd have a nonprofit that holds these people accountable. But

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Speaker 1: there's all kinds of legal regulation all throughout permeating this

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Speaker 1: supposably free market. And you know, we need to take

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Speaker 1: this very seriously. Yeah, Conservatives haven't actually done a great

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Speaker 1: job of keeping regulation out of a lot of markets,

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Speaker 1: but on this one they seem to be drawing a line.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean people like you and I we're

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Speaker 1: the good conservatives. I mean I mean the ones who

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Speaker 1: are are clinging on to this sort of Koch Brothers mentality,

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Speaker 1: Cato Institute permeated. You know, we've just got to take

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Speaker 1: our lumps on digital media. They don't seem to be

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Speaker 1: assailing other regulations as firmly or at least supporting this.

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Speaker 1: This stuff is as anywhere else, doesn't make logical. You know,

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Speaker 1: are they in the pay of these people? I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. They're scared of Facebook. I'm there's

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Speaker 1: a few things going on. I mean, one is certainly

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Speaker 1: there are legitimate, you know, questions about you wouldn't say,

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Speaker 1: for instance, oh, we'll just solve this problem by having

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Speaker 1: the government regulate everything, right. I mean, that's not a

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Speaker 1: viable solution either. There's legitimate concerns about regulation. But it

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Speaker 1: is true that some people treat this issue differently because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of tech money that goes to conservatives.

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Speaker 1: That is part of it. And also it's a it's

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Speaker 1: an ideological thing. They're stuck in the nineteen eighties kind

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Speaker 1: of rhetoric and they're not looking at the present day reality.

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Speaker 1: Old rhetoric doesn't meet today's reality. An example would be

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Speaker 1: example would be John at Goldberg writing a piece saying, well,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't complain about newspapers if they didn't have any

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Speaker 1: conservative calumness. It's like this is a completely different thing.

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Speaker 1: They're not. They could call themselves not publishers. Right. I

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Speaker 1: wish we had more time to discuss this. May We're

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Speaker 1: right at the end of the show here, and thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for coming in here. Just to remind

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Speaker 1: people where they can find stuff about the Claremont Institute.

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Speaker 1: It's American Mind dot org and Claremont dot org. And

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Speaker 1: I love the Claimont review books. I've even been known

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Speaker 1: to cancel dates when CRB has arrived at my door.

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Speaker 1: So holy endorse I've been raheemed. Gassam, editor in chief

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Speaker 1: of human events dot com. Make sure you're heading over

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Speaker 1: to their sign up. We have a membership thing support us.

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for you being here. Thanks to all

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Speaker 1: the staff. Have a great day.