WEBVTT - BREAKING: Judge Leaning Towards Longer Sentence for Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Friday, October, third sentencing day for Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're on a lunch break as we speak, but we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hop on because it has been a morning

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<v Speaker 1>of developments and some of them jaw dropping. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>this episode of Amy and TJ Romes. We didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how long this thing was going to go. They're taking

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<v Speaker 1>a lunch break, coming back at Too Eastern, still expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from Diddy. But this morning, things right off

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<v Speaker 1>the bat were not going his way. Right off the jump,

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<v Speaker 1>just hearing from the judge, you could tell he lost

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of or Diddy at least lost a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of arguments, if you will, with his attorneys and things

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to get into the sentencing memo, and

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<v Speaker 1>we all kind of and a lot of reporters in

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<v Speaker 1>the room that we are grateful for. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>tone to where things weren't going his way well, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the tone that we've heard from this judge. It

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<v Speaker 2>feels like since the onset, and certainly as we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy over the last several months try to eat, get

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<v Speaker 2>out on bail, awaiting sentencing, trying to get charges or

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<v Speaker 2>convictions thrown out, and the judge has not sided with

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<v Speaker 2>him one single time from what I can recall. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's consistent and he's staying on brand today.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very good point. The judge didn't surprise us

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<v Speaker 1>at all with what he did. Off the top, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>explain that this start at ten o'clock this morning. All

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<v Speaker 1>of Didy's kids are there, his mom is there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>described today as somber by some people in the courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>from the courtroom observers. But today he dressed very casually.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not in his prison uniform he's allowed to wear today,

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<v Speaker 1>at least he was allowed to wear street clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>V neck, tan sweater or something like that today. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>headline one robes Mia, who testified under that pseudonym Mia

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<v Speaker 1>former assistant. She requested to address the court. We found

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<v Speaker 1>out immediately ain't happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It ain't happening, and it didn't look good for Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>because his lawyers sent a note to the courts, to

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<v Speaker 2>the judge asking that she not be allowed to testify

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<v Speaker 2>because they claim she is not a victim. Now technically

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<v Speaker 2>did he was not convicted on the allegations made by Mia.

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<v Speaker 2>But even the judge ruled that the way the tone

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<v Speaker 2>of the letter was that it was inappropriate. The prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>said that it was a bullying tactic by Diddy and

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<v Speaker 2>his defense team. So by them trying to get Mia

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<v Speaker 2>not to testify, which she is not going to, she

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<v Speaker 2>sent a letter instead, it didn't make them look good,

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<v Speaker 2>sympathetic or in any way despite his apologies that we've

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<v Speaker 2>heard about, that didn't make him feel very sympathetic or

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<v Speaker 2>that he had learned anything at least through this court system.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the at least in their argument that she shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to testify, it didn't sound like they were

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<v Speaker 1>making legal arguments. It sounded very personal, and even the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutor called it unprofessional. They flat out called her a liar.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all a show for her. She wants to

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<v Speaker 1>come back now and be a part of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said to you this morning we were getting read,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, man, I wonder if that could be seen

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<v Speaker 1>as like like she's not going to show up because

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<v Speaker 1>she might feel intimidated bullied. Yes, sure enough is exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened, which is exactly what we've heard from people

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<v Speaker 2>like Cassi event to Refine, who say that's why they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want Ditty out because they say, sure, he's putting

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<v Speaker 2>on this nice guy show and telling you all these

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful things he's done in prison and how he's a

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<v Speaker 2>changed man. But when you read or heard about the

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<v Speaker 2>tone of that letter and how he didn't want Mia

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<v Speaker 2>to be given the opportunity to speak or address the

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<v Speaker 2>court about being a victim of his that was some

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<v Speaker 2>insight perhaps into this other diddy that we're hearing about

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<v Speaker 2>from Mia, from other witnesses, from his alleged victims.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, she did submit her letter, not the same impact,

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<v Speaker 1>but she did get a chance to submit a letter. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the things we talked about off top that didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>his way Robes This is a big, big deal because

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<v Speaker 1>this was a part of the fight the defense was

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<v Speaker 1>happening with the prosecutors about what conduct of his should

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<v Speaker 1>be considered in his sentencing. His two convictions are for

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<v Speaker 1>transportation to engage in prostitution, essentially for being John. His

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<v Speaker 1>defense team argues like, if this is all you're sentencing

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<v Speaker 1>him for, then obviously he shouldn't get these big, some

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty year sentence. Their argument is, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>saw him beat her on camera, Yes he was a

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<v Speaker 1>domestic abuser. Yes, he used drugs. Yeah, he wasn't convicted

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<v Speaker 1>for any of that stuff. Well, now the judge this

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<v Speaker 1>morning said, in fact, he is going to consider some

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<v Speaker 1>of Ditty's bad behavior in sentencing him.

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<v Speaker 2>This was huge, yes, and this was a big legal

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<v Speaker 2>argument because Diddy's attorneys were trying to make the legal argument,

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<v Speaker 2>the legal point that that shouldn't be considered. But the

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<v Speaker 2>judge made it very clear that he can consider what

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<v Speaker 2>they call acquitted conduct, the conduct that he was charged

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<v Speaker 2>with but acquitted for, not convicted of by the jury.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can, and the judge can certainly take into

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<v Speaker 2>account Diddy's actions surrounding those charges that the jury didn't

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<v Speaker 2>find him guilty of, meaning MEA's testimony is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be considered by the judge and certainly cassi Ventur refines

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<v Speaker 2>testimony is going to be considered by the judge as

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<v Speaker 2>he makes his sentencing recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So that was one thing, the acquitted conduct

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<v Speaker 1>can be considered. The other thing that can be considered

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, not to be considered as a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the sentencing report. This pre sentencing report essentially you put

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<v Speaker 1>all the information in there and it kind of gives

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<v Speaker 1>you an equation for how much time somebody should get. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense wanted to include in there that Didty had

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<v Speaker 1>taken responsibility for his actions. The judge said, oh, hell no,

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<v Speaker 1>he has not.

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<v Speaker 2>That is remarkable because yes, in our earlier episode, we

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<v Speaker 2>read for you most of if not all, of Ditty's

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<v Speaker 2>letter to the judge that he gave last night to

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<v Speaker 2>the court, where he did say he was sorry, where

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<v Speaker 2>he did write that he took full responsibility. But the

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<v Speaker 2>judge wooh. The judge said, he expressed remorse for some things,

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<v Speaker 2>but said quote Combs has challenged his factual guilt full

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<v Speaker 2>throatedly and had done so even after trial.

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<v Speaker 1>Ouch, how did she take responsibility if you're sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm not guilty. That was as simple a plane

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<v Speaker 1>as you can make it. So they are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to include in this sentencing report that he took responsibility. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense was arguing, trying to make sure in this

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<v Speaker 1>sentencing report do not call Cassie Jane or those male

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<v Speaker 1>prostitutes victims. Now, I don't know why this was so key,

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<v Speaker 1>but it mattered, and they argued about it. Once again.

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<v Speaker 1>The je said, on to the defense you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Either, that's right. The judge is allowing Cassie Jane and

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<v Speaker 2>the male prostitutes to be referred to as victims in

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<v Speaker 2>this pre sentencing report. So, yes, he has been delivered

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<v Speaker 2>blow after blow today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this morning did not go well from him. And

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<v Speaker 1>then so everything we're telling you led to what we

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<v Speaker 1>are about to say now. So the defense Robes asked

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<v Speaker 1>for fourteen months based on their calculation. Prosecution said he

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<v Speaker 1>should get eleven years and three months based on their calculation.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge with this pre sentence of report this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>put all that information in there and he came up

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<v Speaker 1>with the actual number that should be considered for how

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<v Speaker 1>long did it should be in prison? In Robes, it

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<v Speaker 1>is not looking good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, seventy to eighty seven months. That's what the judge's

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<v Speaker 2>calculation is based on the pre sentencing report. Everything that

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<v Speaker 2>was put in. Is there a formula, an actual mathematic

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<v Speaker 2>formula or an algorithm or something that he actually can

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<v Speaker 2>put into a computer and it calculates it for him,

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<v Speaker 2>or is he doing it in his own math in

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<v Speaker 2>his own head.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. My understanding it is kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a legal like you fill in blanks. Is he, this

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<v Speaker 1>is he, this is he, this and it and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a standard form. And then after that it pops out

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<v Speaker 1>and you go through and look and consider whatever scores

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<v Speaker 1>or grades, and you go through and look and say, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the range of time he should get. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like that. It's not literally that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like putting numbers in a formula into an equation

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<v Speaker 1>and then it spits out how much time you're to have.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what got spit out. So now it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a matter that fourteen months and going home being

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<v Speaker 1>home by Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not happening. I think we can say that with

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<v Speaker 2>pretty great assurance that he is not going home before

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<v Speaker 2>the holidays or even before the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Given this judge. Now after he has said this. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're dealing with, is how far below or

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<v Speaker 1>above the guidelines does this joke?

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<v Speaker 2>So this guidelines is five years and ten months to

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<v Speaker 2>seven years and three months, so seventy months to eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven months, that's I mean. So by that calculation minimum

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<v Speaker 2>five years and ten months, maximum seven years three months.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he can consider, like you said, to go up

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<v Speaker 2>or to go down based on what he sees in court,

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<v Speaker 2>but based on what we're hearing from the judge in court,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem like he's inclined to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, that's a better way to put it. Even

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't go up, I certainly don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to go down. It doesn't seem that six

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<v Speaker 1>years for Diddy in prison potentially at this point what

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at and indications seem to be fourteen months

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<v Speaker 1>so already that means he's an extra four years in

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<v Speaker 1>prison possibly, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you know, you and I had been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about it, having followed this trial every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>We both kind of privately made our best guesses, and

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<v Speaker 2>you and I were both right around five years. We

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<v Speaker 2>said that seems like that might be where this is headed,

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<v Speaker 2>and could be that's exactly where this is headed or worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And so during the day today, this continue this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is kind of again we didn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>long this is going to go, but it's gone into

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<v Speaker 1>what feels like now an almost full day of a hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the prosecution got to make a presentation, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>got to make a presentation as well. Those are through

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<v Speaker 1>at least, and the kids got to talk the prosecutors.

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<v Speaker 1>It was interesting. This was the moment of the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Robes that they described as like Diddy's head

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<v Speaker 1>even shot up and people, they said, every person in

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<v Speaker 1>the room, their mouth dropped open. Because this Robes, if

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<v Speaker 1>it is true, I can't believe for a second that

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<v Speaker 1>Diddy would be this stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and because it does not look good. The prosecutor

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<v Speaker 2>told the court that Diddy had already booked speaking engagements

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<v Speaker 2>in Miami for next week and called it the height

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<v Speaker 2>of hubris for him to do that, that he had

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<v Speaker 2>such an expectation that he was going to be released

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<v Speaker 2>after this sentencing. Hearing that he actually booked speaking engagements

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<v Speaker 2>in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>What was our reaction to it?

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<v Speaker 2>My jaw actually dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was true.

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<v Speaker 2>You actually didn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>That can't be true. Nobody's that stupid. Did He's not?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously not. Of course, you wouldn't do that. That's and

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<v Speaker 1>yet and yet it appears he did. However, there is

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<v Speaker 1>more to that story. There has been a letter, a

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<v Speaker 1>briefing that has been filed and put on file. They

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<v Speaker 1>were the court from a non profit organization in Miami

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<v Speaker 1>that deals with incarcerated individuals who are making a transition

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<v Speaker 1>back into society. He did, He, according to this letter

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<v Speaker 1>from this group, is signed up to speak at that

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<v Speaker 1>organization on October fourteenth, seventeenth, twenty third, twenty fifth, and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, you asked me if it made a difference

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<v Speaker 2>in my reaction to know that he was speaking to

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<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit group, and my answer is not really, because

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<v Speaker 2>he's still putting on his hero cape. Look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm reformed. Let me help you do the same. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell he's still And even in the letter he

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<v Speaker 2>sent to the judge, he had he was looking at

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<v Speaker 2>everything through his own philanthropy and his own ability to

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<v Speaker 2>overcome and his heroism. That it's too soon for that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's way too soon for that. He's just apologized yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>for all of this, and now he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>this motivational speaker. I'm sorry if that makes me feel

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<v Speaker 2>actually like physically ill in some shape. It doesn't sit right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the right timing. And certainly, yeah, that is

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<v Speaker 2>some ego there to think that you actually were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go and stand in front of a

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<v Speaker 2>crowd and be hailed some good guy who's turned his

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<v Speaker 2>life around, who's gonna help other people do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear more about this. I still cannot

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<v Speaker 1>believe anyone who would be this. That's not even arrogance,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pure stupidity. You know, if somebody's gonna find out

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<v Speaker 1>about it, it's gonna this looks terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>The reports in the room, I know you said people like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you specified it was his head

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<v Speaker 2>shot off. They said like he couldn't believe that, almost

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<v Speaker 2>as if because we don't know, but it seemed as

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<v Speaker 2>if he was shocked that they knew that he had

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<v Speaker 2>a speaking Hey, he had several speaking engagements lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>This that this one makes no sense. I actually am

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<v Speaker 1>reserving of my opinion on this one until I hear

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<v Speaker 1>cause I just can't believe that anyone would do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what it is, A dentist appointment, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't give a damn. How are you gonna make plans

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<v Speaker 1>for next week? You're essentially telling the judge, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what he gonna do. I'm out of here. The

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<v Speaker 1>judge might give him nine years.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in all seriousness, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, So the defense got to go up and

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<v Speaker 1>make their presentation as well, and Rogues actually had two

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers go up, and the second one Nicole Westmoreland, a

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<v Speaker 1>black woman, who spoke for a little bit. She got

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<v Speaker 1>quite emotional up there. Reports are she was crying and

0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.800
<v Speaker 1>tearing up in there, but telling the story of what

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<v Speaker 1>he has meant to the community and how much it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal to see someone from where he's

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<v Speaker 1>from succeed in the way he did. He built himself,

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<v Speaker 1>he built an industry, he built a company, and I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is all true, and he did contribute so much

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<v Speaker 1>and his success story is a brilliant one. Today a

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<v Speaker 1>presentation see someone crying on his behalf again reading the

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<v Speaker 1>room today, the timing of the video and the speaking engaged.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we talk about the video?

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't talked about it. Was it twelve fifteen minutes?

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it is yes, but it it was basically a

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<v Speaker 2>highly produced, well lit video that showed did he running

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<v Speaker 2>the New York City Marathon for a philanthropic cause, his

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<v Speaker 2>playing with his young children, being a good dad, having

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<v Speaker 2>people talk about what a phenomenal member of the community

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<v Speaker 2>he's been. I'm sorry, but it's for me. That was

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<v Speaker 2>just my initial reaction was and I have had moments

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<v Speaker 2>where I have felt sorry for him in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that he had everything thrown at him and was facing

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<v Speaker 2>charges that I don't even believe he necessarily should have

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<v Speaker 2>been facing because he is who he was. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>when that video, when we heard and saw some of

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<v Speaker 2>the snippets, I just felt like it was manipulative. I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like he thinks we're stupid, that somehow we just

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<v Speaker 2>think he's this great guy. Now, it just it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only did it not make me want to rally

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<v Speaker 2>behind him or root for him, or hope that he

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<v Speaker 2>gets a lighter sentence, it actually made me feel the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>That he was using his money, his wealth, his power

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<v Speaker 2>to try and influence and the fact that he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>we're so dumb that we're gonna fall for it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had a lot of feelings about this story, just

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<v Speaker 1>as human beings watching this story. This is the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing I couldn't believe how much of this video irked you.

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<v Speaker 1>It really really did, and you see it. Dead timing

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<v Speaker 1>is everything. This is the most I've seen you probably

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<v Speaker 1>get annoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's behavior was atrocies and things we saw. But

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<v Speaker 1>this set you off.

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<v Speaker 2>It did today, it did. It did not sit well

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<v Speaker 2>with me, and I can't imagine it sat well with

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<v Speaker 2>the judge. But you know what, I don't know. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just my personal reaction having listened to everything he's accused

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<v Speaker 2>of having listened to these women, sob up there on

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<v Speaker 2>the witness stand and talk about decades of abuse, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's put together this shiny package of how great of

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<v Speaker 2>a guy he is. It's tough, it's trying.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to remind the judge what they call these

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<v Speaker 1>mitigation factors, what they call well, yeah, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>mitigate just how much his sentence will be by reminding

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<v Speaker 1>that I was and I have contributed to society in

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<v Speaker 1>a positive way in some way. I think that's all

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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to do, Just show himself and remind the

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<v Speaker 1>judge that hey, I've done some good stuff. Was as

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<v Speaker 1>simple as that. It didn't work for me, But it

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like a show at this time, like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we know what you're doing. And I think that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you see when.

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<v Speaker 2>You see that yes, yes, exactly, and know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do, yes, and I think everyone's aware of

0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.280
<v Speaker 2>some of the contributions he made. I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 2>on his way to becoming a billionaire and he yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in that sense, when you have that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a platform, there is a level of responsibility to

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<v Speaker 2>do good and to be good. So I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>give him that many kudos for what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I didn't think about it that way. But also

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<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom this morning, folks reportedly did he was

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<v Speaker 1>in tears? Did he was in tears in court? We

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<v Speaker 1>will explain who was standing at that podium when did

0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:09.280
<v Speaker 1>he started to cry. We continue now with Diddy. We

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<v Speaker 1>are on standby as we speak. They are on a

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<v Speaker 1>lunch break for his sentencing. Hearing going to start back

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<v Speaker 1>up at two o'clock Eastern time. After that, we expect

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from Diddy. We expect to hear from the judge.

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<v Speaker 1>We expect to hear from his pastor as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know how much longer this might go. But

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<v Speaker 1>we will find out today how much time did he

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<v Speaker 1>will get in prison. The judge has now set the

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<v Speaker 1>guideline somewhere between roughly six and seven years, which is

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<v Speaker 1>much higher than what the defense was asking for now

0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.560
<v Speaker 1>robes his kid's guide up to speak. Six he's a

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<v Speaker 1>six adult children got up to speak, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>the moment they described in court that Diddy actually was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely in tears. Yeah, and his six kids got and

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<v Speaker 1>we wondered where they are all going to speak individually, but

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<v Speaker 1>they went up there as a group, and I bet

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<v Speaker 1>that was a hell of a scene to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and that to me, so here we have

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<v Speaker 2>now to me something that's real, something that I understand

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<v Speaker 2>and I can relate to as a parent, as a human,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what you've done with your life, when your

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<v Speaker 2>children get up there and speak on your behalf, that

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<v Speaker 2>is an emotional, real moment that doesn't feel performative in

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<v Speaker 2>any way. And so this is where I felt differently

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<v Speaker 2>about what I've seen in the courtroom today, because if

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<v Speaker 2>there was more of that, if there was more contrition,

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<v Speaker 2>if there was more humility, I would feel a lot

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<v Speaker 2>differently about what I've seen so far. This was a

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<v Speaker 2>moment where there was those things. And so it was

0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:31.520
<v Speaker 2>his daughter, I believe, who talked about watching him nurture her.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about this. So he has a two year old,

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<v Speaker 1>so as the adult kids and then a little one

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<v Speaker 1>two year old named loved name. So an older kid

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about the two year old.

0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Ana, So his daughter said, watching him nurture her, even

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<v Speaker 2>from a distance, has been unexpectedly healing. I can see

0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.480
<v Speaker 2>glimpses of the father he was to us as babies,

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<v Speaker 2>But it also breaks my heart because my sister deserves

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<v Speaker 2>so much more than this. I mean that, yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also I don't know. Did to jump out to

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<v Speaker 2>you that? She said, she can start to see glimpses

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<v Speaker 2>of the fire he was to us his babies, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>he still has a lot more work to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, but he's been in prison for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>How much parenting in there? He said, worse two years

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<v Speaker 1>of his life. You know, the past year was the hardest,

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.360
<v Speaker 1>probably the time he spent at prison. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of a guy, what kind of a father,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of a light? What kind of inspiration can

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<v Speaker 1>he be to his kids? Behind a sell So, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so she went on to say this, and

0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.400
<v Speaker 2>this was definitely going to pull at everyone's heart strings.

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<v Speaker 2>We know he isn't perfect, and he has made many mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>and we aren't here to excuse any of those mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>but your honor, he is still our dad and we

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<v Speaker 2>still need him present in our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the kids who have lost who lost their moms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is their only parent, so she said, our two

0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.960
<v Speaker 2>year old sisters asking where dad is, the same way

0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 2>we grew up motherless. It's a hole that can't be filled.

0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.480
<v Speaker 2>We are tired of being strong. We have already lost

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<v Speaker 2>so much, our mother, our father. Please give us the

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<v Speaker 2>chance to heal together and move forward together.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what judges do. Well, that's just yes

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<v Speaker 1>that your heart breaks for those kids.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent.

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Your heart breaks for those victims, for those women. It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have to let your heart break a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit for Diddy to give him leniency. You would have to,

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<v Speaker 1>don't You have to have something that mercy? Yes? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the judge going to give him any iota of mercy? I?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I wonder because again, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>come off as harsh about my reaction to the video

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<v Speaker 2>into the letter that he wrote the judge, But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I just feel like seeing his kids, seeing him humbled,

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<v Speaker 2>see him seeing him cry, seeing the real emotion between

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.720
<v Speaker 2>him and his children. That is what moves you. And

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<v Speaker 2>if he had said less done less, just said he

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<v Speaker 2>was sorry and didn't go into how horrible his conditions

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.520
<v Speaker 2>are in prison and you know all of that. But

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.760
<v Speaker 2>if he just kept it simple and just said, I

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.080
<v Speaker 2>am sorry, I have no excuses, I am learning, I

0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>want to do better. I will accept whatever punishment you

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 2>give me because I deserve that and more. Thank you

0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.320
<v Speaker 2>for even considering what I had to say and leave

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:09.000
<v Speaker 2>it at that. Don't sit there and tell everybody how

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.360
<v Speaker 2>great you are, how wonderful you are, how much you've learned,

0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.399
<v Speaker 2>how much you deserve a second chance. See, that's when

0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:18.360
<v Speaker 2>you lose me. I want to see real humility and

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.639
<v Speaker 2>real heart, and I just for me, And maybe I

0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:25.119
<v Speaker 2>am wrong, but it didn't feel it didn't feel like

0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 2>it came from the right place. It came from a

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.320
<v Speaker 2>place of survival and self preservation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get that. That is. Yes, he is trying

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to get that out of prison and throwing everything out.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it make a difference, we don't know. And also

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<v Speaker 1>will it make a difference whatever he actually says in court. Yes, folks,

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>as we sit here, they're coming back from lunch break

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.119
<v Speaker 1>in just a little bit but he is expected to

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<v Speaker 1>address the court this afternoon. How well scripted, how well

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>rehearsed will he come off versus how authentic is what

0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you said. We have not had an opportunity in the

0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 1>past year to see him as a human being until

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe this moment. We didn't even see it, but him

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 1>crying because his kids were standing up there. That's a

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>human moment that comes through even reading about what's happening

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope we see more humility and less hubris.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but folks, we will hop back on again,

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<v Speaker 1>will be another one today for sure about Sean Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>kom standing by waiting to see how long he is

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:36.359
<v Speaker 1>going to stay in prison. The judge has now said

0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 1>the guidelines say it should be anywhere from about six

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to seven years. Always appreciate you listening to us. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>hop back on AM TJ here, talk to you soon.