WEBVTT - Rowland-Smith’s Mariners checkup 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.240 Hey, we've got our buddy Ryan Roland Smith joining us 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:09.080 right now. Mariners TV Analysts, top Set podcast, great accent, 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.160 just the whole thing working for him and he's covering 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:12.680 one of the best teams in baseball right now. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.720 Ryan, Great to have you on here. Yeah, and the 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:20.279 head I'm ready to go to a game here in Baltimore. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.840 He had no. I it's Look, it's been fun, man, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.079 since the since the trade Deadline'm not gonna lie a 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.680 completely different feel with this team because this is really Look, 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.200 they've been really aggressive every trade deadline the last couple 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.560 of years, but this is the first time where it's 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:38.239 like there's no like justification or explaining the move, right, 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.800 It's basically like, Yep, you wanted the offense. You're banging 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.320 that dramall off season and into the season. You want 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.159 that extra piece, extra pieces offensively, and they got it. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.360 Here it is and there's no like yep, twenty twenty 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.240 five and that's it as opposed to, you know, trying 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.520 to work around the edges or add this because it's 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.160 a future move or we're trying to have controllable players 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.160 or whatever it is. And then everyone's fired up. Man, 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.200 they try stand that took nine to ten. You know, 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.360 they had the Etro weekend. It was just it's just 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.959 a really good thing happening right now in Seattle, that's 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:08.319 for sure. 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.240 Did it need to be at the trade deadline? Did 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.440 it need to be a move that was like, hey, 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.640 we're you know, as a front office, we're looking at 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.880 it like I don't know ownership, I don't know how 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.319 good this team really is. Is Julio really good? We'll 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.440 wait and see till the trade deadline. Because Suarez wasn't available, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.919 Josh Naylor was available, you could have gotten another third 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:35.319 base back to come in and play that position all year. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.160 They might not be tied right now, they may be 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:38.400 up on the Astros. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.120 You're talking gone back into the off season right in 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.280 regards to making those music, Well, put it this way, man, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.640 like the Marylands. You know, as we know free agents, Man, 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.680 it's competitive. It's sometimes it's more than just dollars and 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.440 cents to bring some of these guys in there. There's 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.040 more the guys into it, as you guys know, and 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.120 you go do a little bit of recruiting as well. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:02.760 I feel like they're big draw card is where the 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.960 players where you get it via trade. And I feel 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:10.560 like coming out of twenty twenty four, their biggest chip 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.240 was going to be pitching, whether it was in the 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.400 minor leagues, anda a Triple A, or even in the 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.000 big leagues, dismantling that five man rotation, and they just 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.600 weren't willing to do that. They just period weren't willing 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.080 to do that. So that move really wasn't out there, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.840 I feel like in the off season, and I feel 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.280 like because they weren't, like I said, willing to give 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:32.000 up their biggest strength. And then they get into a 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.000 season they kind of play, see how we go a 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.560 little bit. They were slipping behind the Astros, who, by 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.040 the way, were not very good at these last you know, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.640 a couple of months in regards to how they were built. 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.120 They'll winning. I don't even know how they were winning, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:44.600 to be honest with there, with all these injuries and 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.639 everything else. But you're looking at this going, man, well 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.640 how good are we? If the Astros are able to 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.880 get this lead in the West and we can't keep 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.000 up with them, you kind of ask yourself, well, how 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.120 good is this team? And so I feel like it 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.480 got to that place, and you know, we know cow 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.640 role the last couple of years has been vocal about it, 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.200 and they've gotten to a place now where it's like, 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.200 we've got five all stars on this team. We've got 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.079 a cow ruler who's having a historic year knocking over 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:12.480 like Johnny Bench and you know, heading towards Mickey Manlin 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.000 regards to home runs for a switch hitter, it's insane. 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.359 So this is the time is now, and it got 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:18.880 to a place where it was a month after month 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:22.160 is saying this team has something here, there's a good 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.760 young core of players you need to add, and it 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.800 took up into the deadline. Put it this way too, man, 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.600 I'm going to give a ton of credit to Justin 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:33.120 Hollander because look they made the move with Josh Naylor 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.240 and you look at that and fans like, yeah, great, 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.360 we added and we added a player finally who's just 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.880 pure rental for twenty twenty five. But you're look at 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:42.240 that gun hold On. He's on the same team as 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.560 Juno Squires. What happened to that? We love Gino, like, 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.880 how come we couldn't pull that off? And Justin Hollander 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:51.080 that door wasn't closed. He just kept calling, calling, calling, 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.920 And by the way, on the on the bullpen side 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.000 as well. I think I a little disappointed they didn't 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.720 get another bullpen piece because I pushed so hard to 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.040 get that second guy in that ballp and a bridge 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.720 that gap to Brash and Munnos, but I got to 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.720 give it to him, and they just kept pushing, pushing. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.400 I think that doing the deal with Josh Naylor a 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.520 little earlier, you developed that relationship where the DBAC say, yep, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.040 we're happy with what we got. Thank you. You're happy 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:16.960 with what you got, all right, let's keep that door open. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.880 And then I feel like the value for Gino just 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.039 kind of kept sort of slipping a little bit because 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.440 there's other options out there. And then they struck Man 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:25.800 and by the way, they didn't give up any of 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:28.479 their top one hundred prospects, so a plus at the 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.600 trade deadline. And to answer your question short in the winner, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.680 I think if you were the goal was to go 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.800 get offense, you're probably gonna have to give up your 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.080 you know, your your biggest attribute, and that's pitching. I 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:41.760 just don't think that willing to do that. I'm kind 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.119 of glad they didn't do that, honestly, you know, until 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:48.440 until this point. But why this year? Why not last year? 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:49.040 Why this year? 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:50.760 Is it just because of the cow rawle of the 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.760 year and what they look around at the West and 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.400 say the West is vulnerable this year. You kind of 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.120 you kind of glossed over a little bit, But is 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.760 that the main reason? Because Houston's banged up beyond unbelief? Right, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.760 they're not, They're not the same Houston. Regman's gone, All 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.120 these guys are gone. Then you look at the Rangers, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.760 they're not playing very well. The Angels are the Angels clearly? 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:11.680 Is this is why finally Depoto in the front office 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.039 was told, hey, you can do this this year, and 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.360 it's awesome. They didn't give up their top prospects. 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:17.480 It's yeah, that's the way. 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.360 It's supposed to work. But you know, in years past 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.000 they've had the ability and they've had a you know, 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.119 a luxury of the starting pitching. But why in twenty 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.040 five is it because the West is just not as 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:26.839 good as it used to be? 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.200 I think so, I really did, man. I think it's 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.200 you know, gone back to last year again, twenty twenty four. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.280 Gone back to that pitching, right, That's what kind of 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.680 that's what got them close. And whether or not there 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.320 was a move last year. Look that was still aggressive 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.080 and they still went and got you know, Justin Turner 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.640 and Randy rose Arena. I mean, they still got some offense. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.640 They still got you know, Jimmy Garcia in the bullpen 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.279 as well, and they again weren't they didn't need to 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.279 give up a whole lot to get them, and so 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.320 they still were aggresive last year. Ye pride of that 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.200 they went and got Luis Castille, who was the biggest 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.400 piece out there, and they added to that starting pitching 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.760 wasn't as good as last year in twenty twenty three 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.200 to go get Luis Cassid to fill that void. And 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.280 that's kind of what the That was their anchor, that 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.359 was their you know called their aircraft carrier. That was 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:15.160 what it was going to take him to that next level. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.960 So going into twenty twenty five and you guys know, man, 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.800 it's so tough to replicate what they got out of 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.000 their starting pitching last year. And that's kind of been obvious, right, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.080 Bryce Miller goes down, he struggled. You had a situation 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.560 where George Kruby didn't start the year he was on 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:34.200 the IL. You had you know, Logan Gilbert missed seven 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:36.359 weeks as well, so you're not going to replicate what 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:37.880 they had in twenty twenty four. But I feel like 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.400 they went into this season saying, all right, yeah, we 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.560 might be limited in what we can do in regards 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.039 to going and getting paying money for free agent, but 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.320 we do have their capacity to make a trade at 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.719 some point, and the time was right. Man. They got 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.040 to a place as a group, as a team and 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.760 as a front office to say, all right, we're really good, 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.120 yet we know what we need. We're going to be 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.160 aggressive like they with last year and the year pride 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.160 of that, and let's go and get a move that 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.160 services twenty twenty five only really for the first time 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.000 the last couple of years. 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Try surf 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.920 Shark today. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.600 All right, let's move ahead to the rest of the season. Now, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.480 Henyo Suarez has got like a three thirty ops since 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.360 he's come over, and the nailer's got one thousand ops. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.600 How do you see, because you see this team day 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.720 in and day out, how do you see pitchers navigating 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.880 the lineup differently with those two guys in especially even 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.680 because people will be like, oh, Suarez trade soft, like 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.880 he's not doing to me. You add a guy like 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.960 Suarez who will get hot at some point and carry 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.200 the team, but he's there all the time looming. Do 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.920 you see a difference in how teams are pitching and 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.720 navigating How he got a throw to a certain guy 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:06.840 that's feasting during this time. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.000 Yeah. The biggest shakeup, which was interesting coming out of 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:14.120 that deadline was you had you know, JP Croft was 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.360 at the top line. By the way, he's quietly having 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.120 a really good year and he was at the top 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:20.840 of line. As a matter of fact, I was kind 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.280 of hoping he was gonna make the All Star team. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.960 Didn't happen. He's having an awesome year, but man, he 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.520 was struggling going into that trade deadline. He was struggling. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.559 Then they get obviously Naylor, and then they get a Gina. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:32.720 They come out of August first, you got to figure 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:34.400 out how you kind of put this line up together. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.920 You put Randy at the top, Randy Rose Arena, who's having, 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.560 by the way, best power year as well, and plus 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.200 he's swiping a bunch of bags too. I think he's 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.800 already you know, beating his career best in stolen bases, 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.520 and so you look at that and say, all right, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.599 you've got the first one through. I'll throw Polanco in 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.040 there as well, because he's back to what he was 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.160 doing in April one through six. Man, it's a gauntlet. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.480 It's tough because you look at that, there's no breathing room, right. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.600 Kl is still getting pitches to hit, which I thought 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.559 after that home run derby, after that All Star break, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.280 all right, they're gonna have to, you know, be a 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.480 little bit more careful with him. But he's still getting 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.240 pitches to hit, and he's starting to figure out that 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.680 swing as well. Three home runs in the last four games. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.760 And then you've got right behind him Julio all of 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.319 a sudden, you know, August and September said it's a gaunt. 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.800 But now the biggest question was when you saw JP 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.040 go from the leadoff spot and you guys know, man, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.280 like you see a guy lose his leadoff spot and 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.440 he goes he shuffles down to seventh. All right, how's 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.679 he going to react? Like, how's he gonna you know, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.480 around the around the cage or in the dugout? Wherever 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:30.800 is he going to be that guy. But now that's 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.839 that's just not his style. Man. He's kind of come 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.800 in and basically said, so excited for what we've got. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.120 Randyo Roserena wasn't upset about leaving the four spot behind 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:41.640 cal get more pitches. He's going to have to liadoff spot. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.800 So everyone's pretty fired up about what they have in 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.240 this in this lineup. Now, you mentioned Gino hasn't quite 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.000 gotten hot just yet, but it's just a tough line 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.280 up to navigate, and the only breathing room you look 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.160 at and say, all right, you've got three left, he's seven, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.360 eight nine, and see you're like, oh, they're going to 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.800 get matched up. But the problem is JP hits left. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.240 He's pretty well and by the way, pitches per played 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.079 appearance is insane. So you've got seven to eight and 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.160 nine all of a sudden since the trade deadline, seeing 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.440 about four and a half pitches per plate appearance on 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.679 basis over four hundred and flipping that lineup back over. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.480 So there's really no breathing room. Now. I know they 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.480 only put up a one run yesterday, but going back 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.079 to that homestand in Seattle, it was, man, it was relentless. 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:21.800 You could just have that feeling, and we just haven't 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.200 had that in Seattle. You've always had those pockets where 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.640 it's like, oh man, so it's coming up with two 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.719 outs and you know there's run around second. You just 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.360 feel like there's just gonna be that swing and miss. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.720 Especially last year, it's just not the case. Right now. 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.520 I see August first and everyone can feel it. Man, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:36.679 it's a lot of fun to watch. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.280 Hey, you brought up Julio Rodriguez and he was a 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.680 controversial All Star pick because of where he's at. His 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.920 numbers are good. Now what changed though? What He's done 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.280 this for a couple of years. Now, wait where April 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.440 May even in the June, it's really kind of a 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.760 struggle and in July, August, September, come what what is 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.360 the difference in second half Julio and first half Julio. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.240 Yeah, so going back to you know, last year, I 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.319 haven't had that big of a sample size. Really, It's 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.360 not like he's done it for six years. It's been like, 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.720 you know a couple of years there where he went 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.719 off as a rookie, expectations through the roof, and then 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.800 you know, going back to last year, right, last year, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:17.880 he was just trying to reinvent the wheel. The guy 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.920 was like he was trying to have more plate discipline, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.520 but he was he was getting he was kind of 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:27.280 taking away that aggressiveness on that first pitch. He just 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.079 wasn't I'm not saying the Mariners didn't allow him to 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:31.720 be an athlete, but I feel like with him, he 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.600 was just trying to He's trying to be you know, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.760 super pro at bat and all of a sudden wear 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.319 a pitcher down or something. It's like they just go 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.199 and swing man, see the ball, hit the ball, just 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.800 rip it. And then this year it was kind of 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.599 this situation. I feel like where he hits everything, he 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.160 incides out to everything to right field and it's ridiculous. Man, 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.200 Like all comes off his bat just different to everyone else. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.800 It just does. That's why all those ground balls can 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.120 just kind of shoot her. It's like he's playing on 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.160 a little league field. And then the big conversation was, 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.079 look in order to get the ball in the air 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.640 with some authority and get some power, some more of 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.720 the power numbers, because that was lacking. It's been lacking. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.840 The first half. It's like he's so you know, undercooked 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.560 in regards to some of the power numbers, you know, 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.120 get the ball in the end of the pull side, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:16.440 and I feel like he was trying to do that. 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.360 He was getting a little bit beaten inside. And then 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.439 right before the All Star break, it's like something click. Man, 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.200 he all of a sudden was able to get that 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:25.760 bad head out and he was launching balls in the 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:27.719 left field. Wasn't the ball in the ground, like when 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.719 you look at the ground ball rate to the left 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.280 side of the infields through the roof, but the exit 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:35.080 you is still good. I see he's still getting good contact, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.440 but you just can't lift the ball. And then all 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.480 of a sudden, right before the break, I want to say, 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.120 I'm trying to remember who he took deep. I was 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.839 watching he got that spin, little spinn and breaking ball, 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.880 got the bad head out, cheated a little bit, and 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.520 he launched ones foul into the seats and I was like, oh, man, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.120 I haven't seen I've never I haven't seen him do 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.480 that for forever. And then next piece, whack boom took 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.119 one into left field, and so I kind of eliminated 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.240 just guys just beating him up middle ind in my opinion, 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.320 And now I feel like from that point. You know 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.320 he took you mentioned the All Star Game, you know, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.400 controversial pick. He took that off because he wanted to 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.520 get some work in whatever it was. But now all 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.120 of a sudden, I feel like he's just got this 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.600 nice little He's in this groove where he can hit 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.520 that ball in the right center field with authority, but 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.360 he's just able to pick his spots where you can 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.000 just get that bad head out and cheat a little 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.160 bit on some of those pitches inside. So it's kind 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.480 of you can't just eliminate half the plate for Julio. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:25.880 So I think there's a little bit of that and 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.240 plus two, I don't know what it is man psychologically, 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.760 if it's something where like you get to that point 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.720 where dust settles, trade deadlines, happened you had the All 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.040 Star break or the All Star game, you know, whether 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.240 you around your peers at the game or taking the 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.000 time off and you look seeing the finish line, you 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.040 just kind of have that nothing to lose sort of mentality. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.240 I think maybe there's a little bit of that too. Psychologically, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:46.760 he gets to a place where it's like, all right, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.360 this is my swing right now. I'm not trying to 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.240 overthink it. I'm not trying to be more patient on 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.240 the plate because dude, he swings man still a ton 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.040 first pitch, like it's ridiculous, and it's like, just have 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.280 Adam and just swing, just be an athlete. So I 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:00.880 feel like there's a little of a combination of that. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.840 But may what it is August September, he just lights up. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.400 So it's it's a it's a good song for the Marinids. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.000 And I think some people forget he's still not even 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.480 twenty five years old yet. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:10.960 I get it. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.680 Some guys have MVPs and all that stuff, but he's 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.640 a like he's still learning. So I mean, I think 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.000 it's cool that you you know, you you see all 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:20.640 those different things that he's learning. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.600 To do in the big leagues. Yeah, for sure. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.480 Last question, last question for me. Anytime I talked to 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.120 an Australian baseball player, I have to ask because I 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.880 haven't seen my friend Jared MANGIONI is almost exactly your 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.480 same age. Yes, do you know what he's doing? And 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:37.960 do you know who I'm talking about? 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.000 A dude on that manage? Of course of that Jared Mangier, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:46.000 of course, what is he doing? Oh man, you stump me? 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.000 Know what he and I should know this man because 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.000 all the all the Aussies past and present, we all 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.240 tend to, you know, stay in the same circles. You know. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.040 You guys had Grant Balfour on months ago. He's one 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.200 of my best friends. He was a groomsman at my wedding. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.280 We're really close all the way down to everyone else. 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.000 So I should know what men Jerney's up to. I'll 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.160 find out though, Eric, I'll get back to you and 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:07.840 I'll find out exactly what he's doing. But there's a 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.400 that's a man, that's a name. I haven't heard it 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:10.080 for a long time. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.280 Yes, Prospect with the Blue Jays that I played with 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.920 for for a few years. One of the guys, one 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:17.440 of the guys. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.680 Yeah he was Yeah, he was good man. I remember, 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.880 like high school age, he was a stud. If the 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.680 thing is though in Australia, like I say that now, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.480 if I say this all the time, if I grew 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.800 up in the States, yeah, I know A J's got 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.440 some boys right now playing you know the Showcase, doing 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.960 the Showcase rounds and all that. Yeah, I feel like 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.320 if I grew up in the States, man, I don't 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.760 know if I ever would have gotten a chance, dude, 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.760 because like you're a big fish a small point. So 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:42.440 I'll say me and Jerney was a study. He may 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.280 know the he was out in Australia because no one, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.680 no one plays. So there you go. Ryan. 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.080 A couple of things. First of all, I mean I 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.720 can go back to like Darren Fidge. I mean games 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:57.400 that you guys are talking about. These guys, yeah exactly Williams. Yeah, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:02.320 I mean baseball Australia. He's big time now yep, Willow 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.120 Pete Pete Moylan, you know, and he was, you know, 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.240 in jail with our hitting coach the same night. I mean, 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.600 I've don't do a lot of Australian stuff. Okay, all right, 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.399 so listen, but here's what I want to know. I 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.080 got two questions. Were you one we played in the 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.360 Hall of Fame game like it was like seven eight 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.120 years ago. Has your shoulder recovered from that yet? Because 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.879 it was the first time you touched the ball forever? 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.360 And then also, who has better hair in dress game? 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.800