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Speaker 1: The government, Kuala Bears are racist, the.

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Speaker 2: Money, any stuff, I can't tell me.

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Speaker 3: Last Christmas, I gave you my heart and the very

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Speaker 3: next day.

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Speaker 2: You gave it away. There it is. There it is.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, gentiles and little Mama's alike to another phenomenal episode

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Speaker 3: of My Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 2: The podcast where we dive deep into the pockets of

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Speaker 2: black conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Theory and we finally work to prove that the BPM,

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Speaker 3: the beats per minute of the Cupid shovel are engineered

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Speaker 3: at a specific frequency that is meant to enter the

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Speaker 3: black brain and create order in the black community. Casper,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't just giving us a hit, He was giving

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Speaker 3: us organization.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your work, sir. We miss you every day.

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Speaker 2: L RP. God not forgotten, God for but not forgotten.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that I know his real name.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know his face.

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Speaker 3: I knew, I knew he had a gangle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: It was an old nigga and a gangle.

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Speaker 2: Who I am always inclined to listen to.

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Speaker 3: Believe it or not, we have a conspiracy for today.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this right before we jumped on. But

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Speaker 3: in light of the holiday season, it is, in fact

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Speaker 3: the holiday season, and we don't give a fuck which

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Speaker 3: holiday that is for you. It doesn't mean a goddamn

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Speaker 3: thing to us, but celebrate however you choose to celebrate.

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Speaker 3: And and in light of that, we said we were

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Speaker 3: going to say, my mama told me there's a or

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Speaker 3: on Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, come on, come on, I love this one.

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Speaker 3: You love this.

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Speaker 2: I was worried.

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Speaker 3: I was worried this wouldn't sit well with you, But

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. Tell me everything you know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love it because I think it's for stupid people.

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Speaker 3: Like the entire concept of a war on Christmas is

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Speaker 3: shut up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're stupid. Or eighty percent of households in this

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Speaker 2: country still celebrate Christmas.

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Speaker 4: You win, you win.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to overtake you white guys or your

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Speaker 2: Judeo Christian holiday that all this consumerism is based around.

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Speaker 2: We're so upside down. We got Jews celebrating Christmas. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of Jewish people who do both Christmas one.

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Speaker 2: We won. It's not even a shut up oh, because

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Speaker 2: you have to say happy holidays, that's your big problem.

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Speaker 2: It's still Christmas. You don't got to go to work

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Speaker 2: on Christmas. You gotta go to work every fuck to

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Speaker 2: Dnika though, yeah you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: It does feel like I legally you can't even ask

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Speaker 2: for kuans off. I don't think you're even allowed to

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Speaker 2: ask for it.

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Speaker 3: They're like, hey, man, don't say that.

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Speaker 2: We know it's made up.

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Speaker 3: Don't say that, because now you're making me feel weird

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Speaker 3: as a boss. And I didn't even want to be

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Speaker 3: that guy. But you know how, you know I'm not

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Speaker 3: fucking giving you that stupid ass holiday.

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Speaker 2: You know, damn well, you don't celebrate no quansah, go

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Speaker 2: break down these boxes.

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Speaker 3: You you know, good and god damn well, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: about to give you kwans the days off.

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Speaker 2: Yo. I know I we're Facebook friends. I saw your

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Speaker 2: throwing apart.

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Speaker 3: I know you DJ, I know all your secrets, my man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, were you ever Facebook friends with like coworkers? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: When I was stitching, and yeah, I had a few

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Speaker 2: I never I never, like maybe one or two. I

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Speaker 3: I knew which ones I could be and which ones

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Speaker 3: I couldn't be Like, there were some teachers who like,

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Speaker 3: if they saw me out party, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: this was in the cracking days. Yeah, this is when

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Speaker 3: I was. This is when I was blacking out on cracking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, blacking off cracking.

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Speaker 3: I was blacking on cracking. Then waking up and being like, so, kids, decimal,

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Speaker 2: And they were like, mister cracking, why do you smell

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Speaker 3: They knew already there, Yeah, this is drunk on cracking.

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Speaker 2: I get to oh man, but yeah, so to say

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Speaker 2: I say all that, to say I, I, it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: The war on all this stuff is like, do I

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Speaker 2: think there are legitimate wars on some social constructs?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sure, Christmas, I don't think is one worth even talking about?

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Speaker 3: I agree? I wonder if there is any benefit to

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Speaker 3: playing some devil's advocate inside of this. Yeah, let's for

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Speaker 2: Oh, you don't want it to be a You don't

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Speaker 2: want it to be a team minute podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was hoping not to be.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I think that I think what they are with what

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Speaker 3: literal happy holidays of it all, but more in like

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Speaker 3: the larger fear of the United States, no longer reflecting

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Speaker 3: the values that they claim it was built on. Right

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Speaker 3: that like, this is a transforming nation, and they would

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Speaker 2: Outside of but that's what I'm saying, outside of you

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Speaker 2: having to say happy holidays. Let's be honest. And I

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Speaker 2: love them. Yeah, I'll start by saying that I love them,

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Speaker 2: big fan. Is this what I'm really gaining ground?

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Speaker 3: No, I've never thought about that at all. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Ever. I don't think they're gaining I think they're keeping it.

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Speaker 2: I think they're keeping it. I think shout out to

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Speaker 2: philipdel Yeah, I think they're I think they're doing good.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think, at least in my lifetime, I

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Speaker 2: other religion. If anybody's coming up, it's the witches. That's

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Speaker 2: the only bitches I've seen more of now than from

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Speaker 3: Would say it's witches. And scientologists are are the only

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Speaker 3: people that I've seen make are real fucking like whoa

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Speaker 2: You know? Yeah? And even scientologists. Do you know scientologists

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Speaker 3: I've met some people that that don't live in Californifornia

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Speaker 2: Met at California.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they like escaped and now they drive a cab

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota and they're they're happier, but also got a

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Speaker 3: story to tell and even if you didn't ask for it,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna tell you. Yeah, exactly, But nah, I don't

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Speaker 2: Bro, I don't even know any scientologists out of La County.

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Speaker 3: You're saying you get to Orange and they're like, I

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Speaker 2: I think maybe you get to Orange. I'm saying you

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Speaker 2: So that's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: With this one devastating news for those Muslims out there.

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Speaker 2: I can feel Carlos is like he's firing up his

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Speaker 3: He is typing with the ferocity he has never typed before.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's typing. I think he's dictating to

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Speaker 3: First of all, the fact that you think that man

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Speaker 3: no way. Well, I will say, to the question of

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Speaker 3: briefly looked up a few things that it relates to

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Speaker 3: this conversation. Oh, but we need to throw to a break,

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Speaker 3: So maybe we should. Yeah, let's take a break and

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Speaker 2: Just talk to my mama told me we are back.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, some of the research that I found does point

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Speaker 3: to not there in fact being a war on Christmas,

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Speaker 3: but instead reminded me pretty quickly how how little Christmas

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Speaker 3: as we celebrate it is not like this ancient fucking

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Speaker 2: Now, right, I mean, because the Night before Christmas was

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the first reference to Santa Claus,

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Speaker 3: Like, there are iterations of Santa Claus that have existed

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Speaker 2: It seems like Valentine's Day, right, It's like the modern day.

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Speaker 2: They got you to start spending money and that's when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it sort of is all connected to

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Speaker 3: in some of his shit starts to really write about Christmas,

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Speaker 3: All of that shit is like very new in his generation,

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Speaker 3: and then suddenly people run with that because of capitalism.

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Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, if you've got to be a good person,

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Speaker 3: then you better buy these gifts or these items to

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Speaker 2: Good right, right, right. And that's why I also don't

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Speaker 2: care much about a war on it, to be honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna do what I was gonna do regardless,

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Speaker 2: Like what is the war? The war is attacking you

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Speaker 2: buying presence for people.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's not, It's just this is just an allegory.

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Speaker 3: It's just a part of the year where we very brief,

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Speaker 3: feeling nostalgic. Whatever the fuck is the sort of like

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Speaker 3: actual attachment, but like it's it's just an allegory.

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Speaker 2: Do you let me ask you and I'll take it personal.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like your behavior personally improves during Christmas?

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Speaker 3: I think it's just you get certain things in your

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Speaker 2: Right, Right, I mean I do feel like as though

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Speaker 3: Our guests today, you're already hearing from him. He We're

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Speaker 4: Paint on my pants. So like a concerned dad. This podcast,

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Speaker 3: No, you've done it all, and it all is amazing.

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Speaker 4: My relationship with Kwanza has been slight to non existent

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Speaker 4: Right, It's like my mom was on that grinding her

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Speaker 4: these holidays are for adults. Like Halloween. Yeah, we say

441
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 4: trick or treating, but them kids are in the house

442
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: by dusk ain't no late night trick or treating that

443
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 4: there is. It's out in the suburbs. I live in Denver,

444
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 4: in a house in a nice, safe neighborhood, you know,

445
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 4: and I've been there saying right for COVID like four

446
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 4: or five years. I don't think I've ever gotten a

447
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 4: trick or treater. Houses are close to each other. It's

448
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 4: it was neighborhood that's like built for.

449
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: You can hit ten house. Yeah, my neighborhood. Yeah.

450
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: But like now everybody throws they kids in the car

451
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: and they go out to the suburbs because the suburbs

452
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: can block off like the street. And then everybody pops

453
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: their garages and it's kind of like a dick measuring

454
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 4: contest between houses. Like yeah, you're giving out candy, but

455
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 4: they got music in their wife's got her tits out,

456
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 4: you know.

457
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: Over here giving out scholarship. You know.

458
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: It's like a chance for closeted extroverts to act like, oh,

459
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 4: I'm just sexy, Sherlock Holmes.

460
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: It's like all right, I mean you don't see kids

461
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: out the house in general anymore, but I used to

462
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 2: see more, like even within my neighborhood. It's like like yours,

463
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: like clouses close together set up for trick or treating.

464
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: Hardly anybody had any any kind of like lawn ornaments,

465
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: any kind of lights. There just really wasn't a lot

466
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: of It took all that when we were kids. And

467
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: I grew up up in a suburb of Chicago, but

468
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: when we were kids, it felt like we were terrorizing

469
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: people's homes where like the doorbell never stopped ringing, Like

470
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: if you shut your door, you were getting ring, ring

471
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: ring all night long. And now even at my house,

472
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: like and I live in a pretty like walkable, very nice,

473
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: pleasant neighbors, and like we get some trick or treaters,

474
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: but they don't bother us, Like if we turn the

475
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: porch light off, it's over.

476
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Like everybody's very like aware and respectful of the holiday.

477
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: And so I to circle this back to Christmas. If

478
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: it sounds like I'm understanding you correctly, it's less that

479
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: Christmas is disappearing, but more that we value it differently

480
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: than we did as children.

481
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and only the people that like the kind of

482
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: religious people to go to church on Christmas Eve or

483
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: go to church Christmas Day or something like that. It

484
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: really is almost like Thanksgiving it's a holiday for older

485
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: folks football and food. It's great for me. I'm damn

486
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: near fifty, but like my son don't care about football sixteens,

487
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: so like he's like, I don't eat that much, Like

488
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving isn't a big deal to him, damn. And there's a.

489
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: Space for quantitative.

490
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: Quanta and just any other kind of like like holidays

491
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: kind of go up and down, and like I feel

492
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 4: like there's just going to be adult holidays because Halloween,

493
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: I think it's almost fully adult, but just like you

494
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 4: need the kids for the for the beard of it,

495
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 4: but really a lot there's going to be a younger

496
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: generation that takes like a kind of fringe holiday, dust

497
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: it off and makes it their own.

498
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: I love the idea of the executives at Big Kwanzas rubbing.

499
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: They're rubbing their hands together.

500
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: We hear a big Quantita in Detroit.

501
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you tired of Santa Claus dancing in the

502
00:27:52,600 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: back of your video? Come on over here to Kwansa.

503
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: That's the thing. And then we're gonna have to watch

504
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: the commodification of Kwansa, which is gonna be the most

505
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: American thing you can do. It is like all these

506
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: things that you think are so underground as we look

507
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 4: at like Snoop selling us. Uh, you know, fire pits

508
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 4: outside we.

509
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: Got we got some of that Snoop wine on Thanksgiving. Yeah.

510
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 4: Wine is just like I mean, all these things that

511
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 4: were underground, now they're gonna be used to market to you.

512
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: We were talking about this before you got here, but

513
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: we we were talking about how quickly Juneteenth got you

514
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: served as now a just general national holiday that everybody

515
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: gets the day off for nobody had. You ain't gotta pray,

516
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: you ain't gotta to go thank your black neighbor. Nothing.

517
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: It's just you get the day off. You ain't got

518
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: to talk about it. And it happened so fast because

519
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: four years ago even I don't think I knew any

520
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: white people who even knew what June.

521
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't even it was. It wasn't up for discussion.

522
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: It never came up, no like. And then they found

523
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: about out about that ship, and then white ladies got

524
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: an Instagram filter and it was gone.

525
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: And I don't I mean, I'm not from the South, y'all,

526
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: ain't from the South. It wasn't a thing for me

527
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: growing up, not at all, you know what I mean?

528
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: Like even in Black Households, it's not like everybody celebrated June.

529
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 4: Team you would get a calendar and it'd be like

530
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: Juneteenth was in the same genre as like you know,

531
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: like there'll be a day that's like Winter Soul System. Yeah,

532
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: is that you know what I'm saying?

533
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

534
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: They have to they like that a law has been passed.

535
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: They have to alert you that that's a but it

536
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 4: wasn't a thing. And then, like you said, out of nowhere,

537
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: it's just like, you don't celebrate Junie. You don't think

538
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: we should. I don't think most Americans even to say,

539
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: no exactly what it is. They probably heard it once,

540
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: but just like you know, people are just coming around

541
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 4: MLK Day.

542
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's also a fascinating thing because I didn't realize,

543
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: and this is my own ignorance. I didn't realize how

544
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: recently MLK Day was a day. You know what I

545
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: mean that I don't know how recently it is Mokday.

546
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: They were fighting against it during the fucking I think bush.

547
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: It, yeah straight, Arizona. Arizona wouldn't like because what's it

548
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 4: called the Public Enemy had a song basically about it.

549
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 6: By the time I get yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh,

550
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 6: it was just like people would not they would not

551
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 6: take the day off just out of like clear defiance

552
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 6: of just like fuck that dude.

553
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: It like didn't get declared a national holiday until like

554
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: pretty recently.

555
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I guess we are. We're at least of

556
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: the age where it's like that's right when we would

557
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: have been little kids enough to not know because I

558
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: always recall it, but I always remember it, but damn

559
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: that's whole blood.

560
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: Yeah man, But to that point, Juneteenth is now it

561
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: seems cody ubiquitous with like the American holiday experience, and

562
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: then the same feels like it will happen to Kwanza

563
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: should it get this cleviten.

564
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: It'll it'll be a clear dividing line between the generations.

565
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: I think, like, I think it'll be a younger person thing,

566
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: and eventually they will be older, but for a while

567
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: it will be like twenty four year old students at

568
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: NYU consciously celebrate it and it gets some kind of

569
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 4: you know, traction on the internet from it. But like

570
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: your uncle will be like, what now.

571
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. I see what you're saying. It's

572
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: right for like it's the perfect small cause for an

573
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: internet asshole to take up, right, Like, that's the perfect thing.

574
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Everybody's heard of it. But it's still niche enough that

575
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: you you could be interesting by doing It's a perfect

576
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: way to pretend you're interesting.

577
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: Do you have you ever celebrated Kwanta in your adult life?

578
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: No?

579
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: Not as a child, but not even as an adult.

580
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: No, And I don't. Maybe I was thinking, since I

581
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: have this take on my next year, you know, because

582
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: it's too late now to spring it on my kids.

583
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: But said then, I know, I know, it's like that's

584
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: my that's my I'd be like, I'm ready, Oh y'all

585
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: are college? All right?

586
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: Then it's just gonna be one young child being annihilated

587
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: by a new a new holiday.

588
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: I would be so hard. He knows his brother, he

589
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: knows his siblings at Christmas?

590
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, friends, is it's like, yo, what did you get

591
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: for unity today?

592
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: Who moji.

593
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: Out of coach?

594
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: Coach?

595
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: It turns out me and my dad held hands in

596
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: the kitchen and said what we're grateful for about each other?

597
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: That's that's what it is. But the only time that

598
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: that works, hold hands talking about like, hey man, we

599
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: live a good life, which I think we should do

600
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: more often, like I have tried to do. But you know, comics.

601
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: Uh is like that's a certain time in your life.

602
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 4: That's like post college until you get married, where you're

603
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: trying to figure out who you are and there's a

604
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: there's a space in there where like you be open.

605
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: It's also the same period of time where you're open

606
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: to join in a cult.

607
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: It's weird. Yeah, yeah. What is the quants of greeting?

608
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: Actually it's think it's Swahili based, So like, I feel

609
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: very uncomfortable black men from Cleveland.

610
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: Many many quanzas to you brothers.

611
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I like that, make quantsa be with you.

612
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: The only word I know is jambo.

613
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: What does that mean?

614
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: It means hello. I had a book when I was

615
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: a kid called Jombo means hello. Yeah, okay, that.

616
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: Guy Efect stay with you.

617
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

618
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: How many books do you read? You remember years later?

619
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: It's impressive.

620
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: I read a lot of books as a kid. I

621
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: don't read it as many as as an adult, but

622
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: I read a shaw other books as a kid.

623
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 4: Man I had adhd or do, but dude, I got

624
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: adderall and it changed my life. I started being able

625
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 4: to read. I got through college without ever really reading.

626
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: I just had to listen becuse I couldn't read anything.

627
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: And then I just went on a tear and I

628
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: started reading everything.

629
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't have it anymore. I'm my brain

630
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: as much, but as a kid, I was like, really,

631
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: you feel its starting to go. Yeah, it's tough because

632
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: I recently realized I ran out of like all the

633
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: knowledge I acquired from reading in my youth. I got

634
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: to the end. Does that make sense? Yeah, Like the

635
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: porch is over, and now I got to acquire new

636
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: and the muscle at your feed from not like I

637
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: still read, but I read like four or five books

638
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: in a year, you know what I mean.

639
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: Now, before we wrapped this thing up, I guess the

640
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: question on my mind. You you talked about the possibility

641
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: that Quanta could become more powerful. You talked about the

642
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: possibility that Kwanta could be then overtaken by our white counterparts,

643
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: that it would become sort of a universal holiday. My

644
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: question for you is, do you think ultimately that would

645
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: be a good thing for the growth? Is the growth

646
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: of this holiday worth the squeeze of it becoming national

647
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: and subsequently slightly white, if not completely.

648
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, there's nothing that's if you do not cross over

649
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: in a popular culture. Popular culture is not only all cultures,

650
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: but definitely white culture, you are going to hit. You're

651
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 4: going you have a hard ceiling. Think about how many

652
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: people are famous in the black community and people don't

653
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 4: know who they are. You know, there's a lot, there's

654
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: a lot of if you don't cross that level into

655
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: like where a thirteen year old white kids know who

656
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: you are, twenty seven year old grad students know who

657
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 4: you are. There is just a level to how far

658
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: that you can go within any industry anything. It's just

659
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 4: it's a numbers game.

660
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: Nick, you know who Alan Pain is?

661
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: You do okay?

662
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: Next one of us? It's any one without trying, That's

663
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: what That's what black dudes really feel like. You're trying

664
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 4: like that. But yeah, there's there's this past Thanksgiving. Just

665
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 4: to keep it pretty recent. I was floored at the

666
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: number of people that had never tasted or heard of

667
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: sweet potato pie. Never heard of it, they heard a

668
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 4: pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie is our culture is like baseline

669
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: for a holiday pie. Sweet potato pie is baseline baseline

670
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 4: for black That's the ceiling. And when people my girl

671
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: made it and when people tried it, they're like like

672
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: they were just like, why don't people eat this? It

673
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: was just like some of us, like you came out

674
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 4: with Kiwi or something like, oh this is some weird

675
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: you know, it was just like fruit huh try it?

676
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's going to be popular. But it's like

677
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 4: that's the same thing with Kwanta. Is Kwanta gonna morph

678
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: into pumpkin piles? Are going to stay slue potato pie?

679
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 4: And that's the question.

680
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: Well, I would love for Patty Leabelle to make my quantas.

681
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: So I'm not Patty Leabell does Quanta pies. That'd be

682
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: pretty cool.

683
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: Oh I can't imagine.

684
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: How could that be the crossover we've been waiting for.

685
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: Patty. Get on the phone, baby girl, right there. We've

686
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: been calling you. You gotta pick up there. We got

687
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: a lot of ideas.

688
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: For you, Patty.

689
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: But more importantly, we want Kwanta to become very popular.

690
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: I I do worry about it. I guess it is

691
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: maybe My My concern is that I do think I

692
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: think about it a lot in terms of larger black

693
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: conversations of how many things do we actually want to

694
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: become as universal as we claim that we do that

695
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: like it. It's something we see often on the Internet

696
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: where people get upset when our culture becomes usurped and

697
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: we feel like we deserve credit for the thing that

698
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: was a very popular thing with like these TikTok dances,

699
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 3: where like black kids were creating these chore beautiful, choreographed dances,

700
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: and then a white girl would go and do it

701
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: and become much more popular off of this shit, And

702
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: a part of me goes, stop showing these motherfucker's that shit,

703
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 3: right right, just keep it in house.

704
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: Do you do you think that the nature of Kwanza, though,

705
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: is a little different than even that of a Juneteenth,

706
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: where it's like Juneteenth is like a celebration of a

707
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: thing that happened in America, so it's able to be

708
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: co opted where Kuwans are specifically created to be this

709
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: like pet African, pet Africanist, like holiday. I don't think that,

710
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: I so to that, I guess I say, I don't

711
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: think it scales up because I don't think that they

712
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: get on board.

713
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 4: Well, I think, I excuse me, I'll just have an thought.

714
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: I think the real real time example that we have

715
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: of it is pride. Look how crossover.

716
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Straight white ladies love pride.

717
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: And straight white guys go to pride because straight white

718
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: ladies are a pride. And I know for a fact

719
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 4: gay men that was like I used to get my

720
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 4: ass kicked, my boyfriend got his teeth knocked out because

721
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: we were holding the hands in nineteen eighty two in

722
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: Green Bay, Wisconsin. And now to see those same dudes

723
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: at our parade, I'm sure infuriates them, but they're probably gay,

724
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: younger LGBTQ plus folks that are like, but this is

725
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 4: what we wanted. So it's the It's the price of admission,

726
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 4: and the price of admission to be accepted by the

727
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: Greater United States or guy's culture, whatever is, you have

728
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: to give up that this is ours and you have

729
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: to watch somebody who didn't give a fuck about it

730
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: commodify it and make money off it and act like

731
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: they thought.

732
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: Of And I think that's really the where I struggle

733
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 3: with it is the commodifying. I'm fine with it becoming

734
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: a commodity we all benefit from, but when it starts

735
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: becoming the type of commodity that like, truly, only the

736
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: motherfuckers that didn't invest in it in the first place

737
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: are the ones making the money off of it, it

738
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 3: gets scary.

739
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 4: Well, it's every look at the weed business, right, Yeah,

740
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 4: it's gonna be Coca Cola has a Kwanza flavor.

741
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's.

742
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: Hard to know where this starts and stops.

743
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's an American thing more so

744
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: than it's even a black thing. Is It's like, what's

745
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: what's being offered up in culture that isn't eventually going

746
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: to be co opted by corporations? I don't know.

747
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 3: And that's that's I pray if we can wrap this

748
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: thing up, I pray that Kwanza somehow becomes the miracle holiday.

749
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: If there is a miracle inside of Kwanza, I think

750
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: the miracle would be Kwanza some by some miracle being

751
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: the first holiday that remains its core fully black but

752
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 3: also gains the popularity, uh that it deserves in unifying

753
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: black people.

754
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Well, Langston is the season. I believe in this Quanta

755
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: Dave miracle. Hell yeah, quantsa day a week. What do

756
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: they call the manora the manure?

757
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, the Quanta stick.

758
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 4: And yeah, and when you see it at Target and

759
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: it's made by better homes and living, Yeah, you know

760
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: there are no African Americans on that board.

761
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: When has a game for quantity.

762
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Target always wants the white kids stands up. I win.

763
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: I'm the King of Quants.

764
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: Good for him because more people know about it, so

765
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 4: it's it's the constant.

766
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yikes, Al, you want to tell the people where

767
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: they can find you, what cool ship you got going on.

768
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 4: You can find me at Al Jackson on I G

769
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: and you can listen to me on Daytime Talk after

770
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: Dark where we it's my old Daily Blast live show.

771
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: But we're right here in this here studio. Shout out dude,

772
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: I d K Studios for holding me down. Shout out Nick,

773
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 4: shout out Jacob. But yeah, and just check my website.

774
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 4: Al Jackson live for days, but mostly follow me on Instagram.

775
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: We are back, So I do want to speak to

776
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: because we came in talking about it and we kind

777
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: of pulled from it. This idea is what we wanted

778
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: to discuss, the idea that there are no black holidays anymore.

779
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that there are there are no and when we

780
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: say black holidays, at least we maybe you should clarify

781
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: that like there are technically black holidays, right that like

782
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: June teen's being an example of one, Martin Luther King

783
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: Day being another. I think those are technically, if my

784
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: I think those are the only two national holidays relating

785
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: to the history.

786
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 2: But that seems very it's loose. It's very loose that month.

787
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: It feels like lose. Do you feel like because on

788
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: was when was Black History Month? In acting? It feels

789
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: like within our lifetime?

790
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: Right, No, it's not in our lifetime. I actually looked

791
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: it up. The original sort of like introduction of what

792
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: would eventually become Black History Month was nineteen sixteen.

793
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't know.

794
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 3: It basically was introduced at first as like a Black

795
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: History Day. Carter G. Woodson is given the credit for

796
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: sort of the initiation of it all, but it was

797
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: like it started as like a day of commemoration and

798
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: then a week Negro Achievement Week. I believe it was

799
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: originally called I.

800
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Think maybe we keep that Negro Achievement Week right after

801
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: Black Bike Week.

802
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 3: It's Black Beach Week, Black Bike Week, and Negro Achievement Week.

803
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: That's your whole summer break, baby.

804
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: But even that, even that, I think is such a

805
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 3: good example of like Black Bike Week remains a black

806
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: holiday because we don't demand that they participate in the shit.

807
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I see what you're saying.

808
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

809
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: Like them nigga's in Myrtle Beach, just keep being themselves

810
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 3: in Myrtle Beach on their bikes, with their their weird

811
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 3: used to be bad bitch ladies.

812
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: Man, because we should pull up? Can we get we

813
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: cauld should should get Will Ferrell to send us to

814
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: Black Bike Week.

815
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 3: Bro, if we went to Black Bike Week and hosted

816
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: a live episode, let's go. I don't know that we'll survive,

817
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: but I'd have fun.

818
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 2: You go out doing what you love. If I'm going

819
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 2: to die, kill me at Black Bike Week. I don't

820
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: want to ride one of them motorcycles, but I want

821
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: to sit on a motorcycle that's the color of tropical starbusts,

822
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: star bursts. Starbust is weird and it is playing so rough,

823
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: so tough by Zap and Roger. Come on, man, they

824
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: looks I every time I see an old black guy

825
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: on a motorcycle with loud music, I get jealous. That'd

826
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 2: be so cool.

827
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: They wouldn't, They would hate our guts.

828
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: But man, when we have fun, now, who cares? Man?

829
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: It's not about that. It's about how I just want, man,

830
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: I just this is this is true. I just typed

831
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: in Black Bike Week into YouTube, and the first thing

832
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: I see is a lady on a giant, white and

833
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: peak motorcycle, and then another lady walking by with a

834
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: T shirt that says big booties Matter, Come on, which

835
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: I didn't even know was in contestant. I think I

836
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: think it keeps uh ebbing and flowing.

837
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: I think there was a period where white people hated them,

838
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: and then they embraced them, mostly on their own bodies,

839
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: and now I think they're pushing back against them again.

840
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: Well either way, black bike But I see what you're saying,

841
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 2: Black Bike Week.

842
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: That's a real holiday. That's a real Black holiday.

843
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 2: Fucking homecoming. Yeah that that what is it?

844
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: The Howard Homecoming is like a real black holiday that

845
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: remains black because they don't then go, hey, white people,

846
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: you must you must be a part of this. You

847
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 3: must prove that you recognize our commitment to our culture.

848
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: It's like, no, just leave them out of this. I

849
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: mean because also force is not maybe the way I

850
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: think there is a point to where forced acceptance is necessary,

851
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: whether it be like integrating schools and stuff like that,

852
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: but things like a holiday. I just don't know if

853
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: that ultimately does what you want it to know, you

854
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yeah, it is worth noting that

855
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: Carter G.

856
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: Woodson basically he hoped that others would popularize the findings

857
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: and sort of like the culture of all the things

858
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: that he was he was doing with the Negro History

859
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: Week whatever it was called, and then that eventually snowballed

860
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 3: into what we now understand to be the you know,

861
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: February Black History Month, right right right? So it wasn't

862
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: and even I think where did I read it? There

863
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 3: was something I read that basically said that even as

864
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: he was sort of like building this thing, the intention

865
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: wasn't as much of like, oh, We're just going to

866
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: like spend a month making, you know, crediting all of

867
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: the things that black people do in February. I always

868
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: thought February was what he got assigned. He picked February.

869
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: He was like, no, February is the move. Why Woodson

870
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: chose February for reasons of tradition and reform. It has

871
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: commonly said that Woodson selected February to encompass the birthdays

872
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: of two great Americans who played a prominent role in

873
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 3: shaping Black history, namely Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglas, whose

874
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: birthdays are the twelfth and the fourteenth. And I remember

875
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 3: reading that it wasn't so much that he was like, oh,

876
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: I love Abraham Lincoln and I love Frederick Douglas for

877
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: like their work, but he was, well, he basically was like,

878
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: there's a lot of shit happening all at once, So

879
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: February sort of makes sense if we're going to be

880
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: able to build this thing, right, right, Okay, So it

881
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: had its intention, and you know, I know every month

882
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: every year we complained that it's the shortest month and

883
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: what an odd choice that that would be the one

884
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: for black people. But it turns out the black dude

885
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: that made it wanted it that way.

886
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: I also don't the shortest month thing is like a bit, right,

887
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: That's not really my issue with it.

888
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: No, it's not like I'm celebrating Black History Month every

889
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: day the whole month anyway.

890
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: Well, and I almost think that that is that is

891
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: my issue with it, is that it becomes so long

892
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: that it is diluted, as opposed to like some kind

893
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: of what do you say, nigga advancement, leeky.

894
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: Nigga do better, Nigga do better day.

895
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean, but there is something to like you can't

896
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: keep it because I don't think any month ascribed to

897
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: a people outside of that group of people. Listen, a

898
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,479
Speaker 2: lot of people talk about Pride month. It's not people

899
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: outside of that community, as you know what I mean.

900
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I will say that again, And I'd be

901
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 3: curious to talk to a queer person about some of

902
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 3: the co opting of Pride even that, Like you see,

903
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: fucking the second that June first hits, every brand is

904
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: sort of like transforming their their logos and putting up

905
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: flags and sort of screaming about their embrace of like

906
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: queer culture. And it's like, I don't know that they

907
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: mean that shit, and I don't know that that helps

908
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: queer people in any honest way.

909
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, man, bro, I at least the Pride

910
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: that I've been to within San Francisco when I lived there,

911
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: it almost felt less. It was just a party. It

912
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: was just a street party. Yeah. I saw a lot

913
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: of hetero hetero sexual stuff going on to be you

914
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean, a toime.

915
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it should it should feel a little.

916
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: I think true cultural celebrations should feel almost like outsider art.

917
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 3: They should feel like something that like a average person

918
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 3: can't just walk into and make sense of, because it

919
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: is it is honest to the culture and not just

920
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: you know, fucking you know a cliff notes of what

921
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 3: culture is.

922
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: Right. That being said, I do love an ethnic sneak

923
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: street fair. Oh it's awesome. Yeah. I was out with

924
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: the low riders on sick on to my own. That's

925
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: my birthday.

926
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 3: I went to, uh, there's like an Italian fair street

927
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: fair that happens in New York one time, and like, well, sure,

928
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: but this is the one they acknowledged. But it was

929
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: like in little Italy, and like they had like a

930
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 3: bunch of foods I had never heard of. It wasn't

931
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, this is an Italian street

932
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, spaghetti and the rest. And now

933
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: they were eating all kinds of shit I had never

934
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 3: heard of and doing weird stuff, and I was like,

935
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: this is cool. I never I never been a part of.

936
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: This, bro. I love any Tell me I will pull

937
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: up on any ethnic street fair. Love It's like the greatest. Yeah,

938
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: it's fun man. Yeah, And so I do.

939
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: I think maybe that's what I would I wish the

940
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: energy was for our holidays is more it is something

941
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: that you could pull up on as a white person.

942
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 3: I don't want it to be exclusive, but I don't

943
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: want it to be something where you just sort of

944
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 3: reap the benefits without ever having to interact with us directly.

945
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: I will say I do like the idea of with

946
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: it becoming a national holiday. I like the idea of

947
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: resources being poortant to it that wouldn't have been before

948
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: because like we went to we went to jazz Fest

949
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: yesterday and like in Five Points, which is a like

950
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: historically black neighborhood or whatever, and like they got signs

951
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: for they're having a Juneteenth Street festival in which Little

952
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: Bow Wow is performing. Hell yeah, And like I don't

953
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 2: know if that because it's like city funded. Yeah, And

954
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that would have been able to

955
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: be as big before that without the national recognition, right,

956
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: And I think that's cool. And I wish that I'm

957
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: gonna be in Canada for Juneteenth because I make great decisions.

958
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: Oh man, uh, but.

959
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get what you're saying.

960
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: I think that's great. I think that's great for kids.

961
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: I think putting some infrastructure around it allows it to

962
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: ultimately grow. So it is like, uh, I don't know

963
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: what are we asking for, because if we are asking

964
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: to keep it insular to the point that we can't

965
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: worry about what they're doing, Okay, yeah, some of them

966
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: are gonna take it off and not care and blah

967
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah blah. But if we're getting

968
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: more resources to this thing, I do think of it

969
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: as a net positive.

970
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wonder about the way the resources are

971
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 3: actually being used. Like to your point, I think that's

972
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 3: great that little Bow Wow, don't do that that grown

973
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: Bow wows.

974
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: Shad Moss.

975
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: Can be can can find funding and or rather this

976
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: organization can find funding to pay Shad Moss to appear

977
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: at their festival. On the flip side, I resent the

978
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: fact that that funding is only disseminated at the point

979
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: that we are fighting for a national holiday. I think

980
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: that that funding should have existed years before it did,

981
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: regardless of whether Shad Moss is available or not.

982
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: Also, I'll give you twenty fIF you want to.

983
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 3: You think that's all it caused?

984
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: The kidding Me and my friend we were we were

985
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: talking about it, though, he said he thinks five I said,

986
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: I think ten to get Bow to perform.

987
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's way more than ten.

988
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: He's way more than ten. Yeah. I think he's good.

989
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 3: I think he's he's asking for.

990
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: Twenty plus and I think fifteen.

991
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he settles at fifteen, but I think he's

992
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: definitely showing up asking for like twenty to fifty and

993
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: then they talk him down because where else is he gonna.

994
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: Be Denver on June team yeah, shout out.

995
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 3: One of the things I also looked up was the

996
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 3: list of other black holidays. There are apparently a ton

997
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 3: of state holidays as it relates to black stuff. There's

998
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: a Rosa Parks Day that is either February fourth or

999
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: December first. I don't quite understand it's celebrated. The states

1000
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: that celebrated are Alabama, California, Michigan, Missouri, Ohio, Oregon, Tennessee,

1001
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: and Texas. There's Emancipation Day, which apparently what we were

1002
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: talking talking about is and this is fucking crazy. It's

1003
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: either March twenty second, April sixteenth, or May twentieth, or

1004
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: July third or November one, bro and it I think

1005
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: depends on the state. And the states are Florida, Maryland,

1006
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico, Washington, d Puerto Rico. Bro, I'm just telling

1007
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: you what they said. And the United States Virgin Islands

1008
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: apparently celebrates this.

1009
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: That makes me so mad about my home state, Puerto

1010
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: Rico does it. Yeah, there ain't no black poppy. You

1011
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 2: got a voice in there. There you go. I didn't

1012
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: do it though. You know what you didn't. You didn't

1013
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: do it to the full extent of your power. I

1014
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: said it in my voice. And that's kind of a workaround.

1015
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: That s how you cheat the system.

1016
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: There's Harriet Tubman Day, which this one is March tenth.

1017
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: There is no debate about it. Only Maryland apparently celebrates it.

1018
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: It commemorates the death of Harriet Tubman, which feels odd.

1019
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: There's Malcolm X Day, which Illinois is the only place

1020
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: that celebrates it May nineteenth, and that's the birth Yeah,

1021
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: we got it. That's the birthday of Malcolm X. There's

1022
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: Barack Obama Day that's also in Illinois. It's August fourth,

1023
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: the birthday of Barack Obama.

1024
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: Hawaii. He said, no comment and yeah, you festival, we

1025
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: love Barack Obama Day.

1026
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: Put us on the motherfucking.

1027
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

1028
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: There's there's Transit Equity Day or Quality Transit Equality Day.

1029
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: I assume that has something to do with black people

1030
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: on the bus. Yeah, the bus boycotts. And uh, that's

1031
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: in Wisconsin for some reason on February fourth, and it's

1032
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: on the birthday of Rosa Parks. And then finally there's

1033
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: George Washington Carver Day February first, and that's only in Iowa.

1034
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: What look, man, there are also some other crazy.

1035
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: Washington Carver working Tuskegee out. Was he born in Iowa?

1036
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: I don't. I've never known George Washington Carver to have

1037
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 3: anything to do with Iowa neither. Apparently he's a big

1038
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 3: He was born in Diamond, Missouri. Okay, he went to

1039
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 3: Iowa state as well.

1040
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 4: There we go.

1041
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes that makes some sense. I went to

1042
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: his house when I was a kid. Was he there?

1043
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: Went to his house? We have to book your t's house.

1044
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: He was like, hold on, I don't know if maybe

1045
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: this was good that you have that back. I'm back, baby,

1046
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: I uh no, I wait what you said? His boss

1047
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: got cut off.

1048
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: There's a conspiracy theory. I'm surprised we haven't talked about

1049
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: this together on the podcast. It certainly has come up.

1050
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: There is a conspiracy theory that George Washington Carver had

1051
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: a surprisingly high pitched voice because he was castrated as

1052
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: a boy. Oh he was born into slavery and was

1053
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 3: castrated and then you know, was freed and obviously did

1054
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 3: a bunch of cool shit. But the theory is that

1055
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: his voice was really really high because of his castration.

1056
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 3: It's the same theory that people had about Michael Jackson's

1057
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: high voice, although that was obviously proven wrong by all

1058
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: the people who are like, nah, that Nigga's voice was

1059
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 3: real deep.

1060
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: He was being silly. He sounds like pretty good.

1061
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 3: What if everybody from Gary just talks like Freddy.

1062
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 2: That's what I've assumed always is that do you know,

1063
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: as men women, what I.

1064
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: Would love if there's a listener with the the uh know,

1065
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 3: how is to redo that do dooo audio? But now

1066
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: with with Freddy saying it, Michael Jackson, you gotta do

1067
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 3: the video too. It's got to be video of Michael

1068
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 3: Jackson saying there was do doo everywhere. Uh, But it's

1069
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: with Freddy gives this voice instead.

1070
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: They can for sure do that. They did that Ai

1071
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: wog Wan Deliah Drake ship. You can't do everywhere with

1072
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 2: Freddy Gibbs.

1073
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: I was really surprised that that that that was AI.

1074
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: I thought Drake had fully been broken by Kendrick.

1075
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: I listened to it more times than I care to admit.

1076
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: That's fair. It's really funny, man, It's funny how they

1077
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: talk there. Yeah, maybe we start talking in Toronto accents

1078
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: and then we like carry it over.

1079
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: I hate the Toronto accents so much.

1080
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 2: It's so funny though. It's cartoonish. It's like they're all cartoonish.

1081
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: You ever heard a white guy from Chicago. Yeah, they're fair,

1082
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: they're all cartoonist. It's all yeah.

1083
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: No accent is without its flaws, I guess, yeah, yeah,

1084
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: which is why we deserve to say him. Man, It's

1085
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 3: why we deserve to have it.

1086
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with the Canadians and that worked my

1087
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: way down. That's smart. Heyf im, you cheesed? What do

1088
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: they say? Hey there, Bud? Hey, I'm a Canadian bud.

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Speaker 3: But that's what makes it makes me so mad about

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01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: it because they talk like that, but then they say

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Speaker 3: like weird Caribbean words and that's meant to be like

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01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: tough guys.

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01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: Ship and the Caribbeans go everywhere the Caribbean people go everywhere.

1094
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: It's the same reason British people do it.

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01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 3: Well, let me say this, Caribbean people need to stop. Whoa,

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01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: y'all need to sit the fuck now, the same issue

1097
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: I have with Juneteenth. You man, you're spreading yourself too

1098
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: wide and you're making you're making it so that your

1099
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: culture is now being like misappropriated by a bunch of white,

1100
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: weird Canadians.

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Speaker 2: And I don't like that.

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01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 3: And Drake is wrong, but you're wronger, So sit the

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01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: fuck down somewhere and stop chilling with all these people.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's that they're not It's just they just

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01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: go places in a listen. I'm for it. Caribbean people. Nope, Nope,

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Speaker 2: Caribbean people, I say, keep it going.

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: We're calling upon you because we have we have new merch.

1108
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 3: We have very exciting merch that we are now selling

1109
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: and it's it's fucking great.

1110
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: We love it so much. Just sleek, it's sexy.

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01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 3: Come on, you want to tell them what we have?

1112
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have three different types of hats, which is

1113
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: really fun. We have a two tone hat, Alien Dad hat,

1114
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 2: the traditional logo in black and khaki. Then we have

1115
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: the enamel pin with an alien who has a coofie

1116
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: on it. Since my mama told me. And then we

1117
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: have t shirts that say proud little Mama, which is

1118
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: who you are. Yeah, you can buy the merch now,

1119
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: go to my mama told me dot merch table dot com.

1120
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: It's a brand new name, but it's the same old

1121
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 2: merch and we would love for you to get some

1122
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: if you haven't got it already. And we want you

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01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: to have all the sweet stuff, So get it.

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Speaker 3: The last thing I'll tell you. And this actually made

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01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: me laugh pretty hard. There are a bunch of other

1126
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: black holidays. Jackie Robinson Day, African American Music Appreciation Month,

1127
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 3: which apparently is June. Obviously, there's Kwanza, which unfortunately has

1128
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 3: been treated with such lack of seriousness that nobody will

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: treat it like a real holiday.

1130
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you could bring it back.

1131
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have that kind of energy or commitment.

1132
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 3: But I believe Christmas House, Yeah, I believe it. Whoever

1133
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: has that kind of strength, but it's not me, but

1134
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 3: my personal favorite. This is my personal favorite day that

1135
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 3: I read on the list. Apparently there is a Kunta

1136
01:04:50,840 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: Kente Day heritage festival that happens he's not real. It

1137
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 3: happens in Annapolis, Maryland. It's that remarks the arrival of

1138
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 3: Kunta Kente, which maybe he was real. I don't understand. No,

1139
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 3: it's when you look it up, it's the picture of

1140
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: LeVar Burton as Kunta Keno. Okay wait no, yeah, yes, okay.

1141
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: He is a fictional character from the novel Roots. Was

1142
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: it Roots a fictional but I've never read Roots. Yeah,

1143
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: it's it's fictional. And not only was it fictional, I

1144
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 3: believe that Alex Haley, the author, was later revealed to

1145
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 3: because he was saying this was all based on real shit,

1146
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: and then it later got revealed that all of it

1147
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: was just him like fucking around, like none of it

1148
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 3: was was rooted in any real truth of anything. So yeah,

1149
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: it's all made up. But the fact that there's a

1150
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 3: Kunta Kente Heritage Day is nuts. Fuck.

1151
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: But god damn it, that m be.

1152
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: Our only black holiday. So we gotta kind of take

1153
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: it where it is, you know what I mean, because

1154
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 3: maybe Kente Day is like fucking the blackest thing out there.

1155
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: Olivia is saying, this is a moment for us to

1156
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:19,959
Speaker 2: start our own holiday. Oh that's Friday. I will maybe

1157
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: we'll workshop it.

1158
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think we can make it

1159
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: a weekly thing, and I don't think coofy Fridays.

1160
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: Is quite right.

1161
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 3: But but yeah, we listeners. If you're if you're inspired,

1162
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 3: maybe send us your thoughts on what could be the

1163
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: my mama told me inspired holiday.

1164
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: Listen. If you guys do a good job next year,

1165
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: we'll commit to it. We will do a live show.

1166
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 3: We'll do a live show to celebrate the holiday.

1167
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: We'll wear traditional garb.

1168
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 3: Yep, we'll create traditional garb that we will wear on

1169
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: the holiday. We will fully commit to this holiday. You

1170
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: picked the date, you pick the theme, we will we

1171
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 3: will pick the best of the themes and suggestions.

1172
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: Yes, also you picked the location.

1173
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 3: Pick the location. It's got to be for us, it's

1174
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 3: got to be a black location. Don't don't come and

1175
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: be like, ah, we're going to do it in veil,

1176
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: like no, I don't know why my state caught it straight,

1177
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I know, yeah, No, we we wanted

1178
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 3: to be somewhere black, and we wanted to be something cool,

1179
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 3: So don't come with bullshit. But it also has to

1180
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 3: be funny. We like we like funny stuff at this podcast. Boy,

1181
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: you want to tell the people where they can find

1182
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 3: you and what cool shit you have going on.

1183
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: Run the whole catalog back. We want to be on

1184
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 2: all of your Spotify raps next year. Am I gonna Kreon?

1185
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 4: Probably not.

1186
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: It gives me anxiety, but I do love to see it.

1187
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1188
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: And in the meantime, you know, you can follow me

1189
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: on Instagram at Cool Guy Jokes eighty seven. You know,

1190
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: just doing some local shows around town. I still have

1191
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 2: some leftover tour merch. Go to bring David Toplate dot com.

1192
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: Buy up some of that and you know, just uh kwanza.

1193
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and get we have merch at my mama

1194
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: told me dot merchcentral dot com.

1195
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, so go buy the merch again. My mama told

1196
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 3: me dot merchcentral dot com. There's lots of cool hats

1197
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: and pens and t shirts and that's it. But you

1198
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 3: can buy any of that stuff. And then you can

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Speaker 3: follow me at Langston Kerman on all the cool social

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 3: media platforms.

1201
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Speaker 2: I love.

1202
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 3: New followers, So go on over come. I'm rest on

1203
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 3: my knee if that's what you need over here at

1204
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 3: uh at Old at Langston Kerman's house. And as always,

1205
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 3: if you want to send us your own drops, your

1206
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 3: own conspiracy theories. If you want to tell us how

1207
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: there is in fact a war on Kwanza, please send

1208
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 3: it all to my Mama pod at gmail dot com.

1209
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: We would love to hear from you. Follow the podcast,

1210
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 3: subscribe like do all the ship that you're supposed to do.

1211
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say no more by Bitch.

1212
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 7: Christmas Night, the Cross to da oh Wait, you can't

1213
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 7: him Hi, you can't kid wone, you can't JC.

1214
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 3: Whereever you go.

1215
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:48,520
Speaker 2: Gon't be growing my crumb chips and your ees.

1216
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: Kala bears are racist.

1217
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 3: The hostal Layer host the money

1218
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Speaker 1: Turning stuff, the vacant o make the