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Speaker 1: Triumph Channel one thirty two. A horrific crash, a school

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Speaker 1: a teacher. Why why is this happening? Every time you

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Speaker 1: It talks about car safety, It talks about not texting.

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Speaker 1: For Pete's sake. Oprah's talking about not texting it's against

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Speaker 1: the law to drive, or being in a car without

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Speaker 1: a fatal school bus crash with a beautiful child dead.

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now, Javonni Vargas, the father of that

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Speaker 1: I mean, see, Grace, this is crime stories. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us. We want justice first to Giovanni Vargas.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. Tell me

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Speaker 1: what happened on that fateful day. Well, Nancy, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: strong and I'm trying my best. Um that day, Um,

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Speaker 1: that morning was a good morning. Uh yeah, it's usual.

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Speaker 1: mornings and late nights. Why our mornings so much more

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Speaker 1: a vegetable? Dad? Would you so many things to try

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00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: to make me feel better? This is a ten year

426
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: old telling me this, And she said, I know mirandus

427
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: with me, and I know she's in a better place. Dad.

428
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: You know that I need you to be strong that um,

429
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: we're going to see her one day. That UM, I cannot,

430
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: I cannot really put it in words, how resilient this

431
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: little girl has been. Recently, it's it's a it's been

432
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: I guess it's affected her a little more. I guess

433
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: the reality pieces coming in. Um. We recently we haven't

434
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: been able to return to our home. We are trying

435
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: to relocate because just a thought, but just some memories.

436
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: It's just overwhelming. We sold our vehicles where we're doing

437
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: our best to try to start over, which is just impossible. Um.

438
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: But we entered the house last week and it really

439
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: really I think it was a mistake on my part

440
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: because it affected my little one. Memories just started coming

441
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: in and she said that don't touch the lamp. Um.

442
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: She was the last one to turn it off. That mom,

443
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: don't lie on that side of the bed, that's her side. Um.

444
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: And I know that we can't go back there, but yeah,

445
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: she she even said to me that I wish I

446
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: could see her again, even if I see her in

447
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: the casket. Um, she's she's going through different phases. And

448
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: as to answer your question, UM, and as parents were

449
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: trying to be as strong as possible and make the

450
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: right decisions, but we all know that going back there,

451
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: she grew up there, She grew up there. Some you

452
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: her running down the stairs, and that didn't make me

453
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: breakfast because I made the breakfast and there lunch every

454
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: single day. UM. So it's it's it's been hard for her,

455
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: but she chose to sit here next to me today,

456
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: UM because she feels the way I do. UM. She

457
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: wants to fight back. She's a very strong young lady.

458
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: She's a type a personality. She wants to be a surgeon. Um,

459
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: and I think she's gonna be a big part of

460
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: this fight. With me is Giovanni Varcas, who lost his

461
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: beautiful daughter Miranda in a horrific and unnecessary school bus crash.

462
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: Bringing this live now on the condition of those buses,

463
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: the histories and the reliability of their drivers and the

464
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: lack of three point seat belts. Getting through a day

465
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: is really, really, really hard. And that's exactly why I've

466
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: chosen to do whatever it takes to help these children

467
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: going forward. I have my children, Natty, you have your

468
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: children or children all across this country that needing our help.

469
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: With me is Giovanni Vargas, the father of little tenor

470
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: old Miranda, who lost her life and a senseless and

471
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: horrific school bus crash. And with us is Miranda's ten

472
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: year old twin Karen Stark and Chuck Roberts. Mr Vargas

473
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: just detailed why he did not want to go back

474
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: into his home where they lived as the family with

475
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: Little Miranda Karen Start, New York psychologist. You know, Karen,

476
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: I tried and tried and tried. I went back to

477
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: caths home to be with his parents for some time

478
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: after his murder, and at a certain point I just

479
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: would be destroyed every time I would leave. I've never

480
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: been able to bring myself to visit the spot where

481
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: he was killed. Why is that? And Mr Vargas doesn't

482
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: want to go back in the home. What what is

483
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: that phenomena? Well, what happens then is that it triggers

484
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: a response in your brain that brings back all memories,

485
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: the trauma of what happened, the memories of the person.

486
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: Just like with Little Madison, when she's there, she begins

487
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: to relive the life she had with her sister. And

488
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: this it becomes even more inspruciating that the person is

489
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: no longer with you. As you described getting up in

490
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: the morning and thinking maybe it was all about dream

491
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: and this is that same kind of a phenomenon where

492
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: all of a sudden your brain begins to produce all

493
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: these memories. It's unbearable. I'm so sorry. This is a terrible,

494
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: terrible story. To Mr Varcas, who is joining us along

495
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: with Miranda's twin, Mr Varcas, you know that federal law

496
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: requires smaller school buses that wait less than ten thousand

497
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: pounds to have the three point shoulder belts, the lap

498
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: shoulder belts. But the thing is, if they're not ten

499
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: thousand pounds, if they're excuse me, over ten thousand pounds,

500
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: that's not required, and the state is allowed to pass

501
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: regulations requiring the seat belt that Miranda needed. Now listen

502
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: to this, Jovanni. There are seven states that have passed

503
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: a variation of those seat belts for larger school buses

504
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: like the one Miranda was in. But get this, they

505
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: haven't funded it, which means, as I've been screaming forever,

506
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: politicians bragged that we pass this requiring three point seat belts,

507
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: We passed this, that this, but they don't fund it,

508
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: and they know full well it will never be implemented

509
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: if they don't fund it. Do you know, Giovanni, if

510
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: all the students even were told that they had to

511
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: put on their seat belts, I would imagine not, I

512
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: would imagine not, Nancy Um. And you know, in addition

513
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: to these seat belts, um, and this is just me

514
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: thinging out loud. Um. Today's technology offers so much. We

515
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: had applications to to track a heart rate for that sake, right,

516
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: Why why do we not have something out of bus

517
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: that will let us know that seat six team does

518
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: not have a seatbell on? Why is it that multibillion

519
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: dollar business length and airliner has a a stewardess who

520
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: walks up and down and says, Mrs Grave, can you

521
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: please put on your own seatbelt? But our kids are kids,

522
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: for God's sakes, our kids do they unfortunately do not

523
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: receive this, this this benefit, this this protection, this support.

524
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: I guess it's because we're not a multibillion dollar business

525
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: or unfortunately the legislation is focused on so many other things.

526
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: But the kids, I mean, do they not have kids,

527
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: so they're not care? Even if you don't, you don't

528
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: have to have children to care. You have to have

529
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: a half a heart, and do you even a full part?

530
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: These are our future, our children, for God's sake, what

531
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: is it gonna take. There's not the death of my

532
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: daughter enough for them to make a change. You asked

533
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: me earlier what went wrong? Everything went wrong, so bus driver,

534
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: the Board of Education, the state, the DMV. I can

535
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: go on forever. Everyone dropped the ball. And now you're

536
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: telling me that they passed a law that has not

537
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: been funded. Where is the logic behind that? I mean,

538
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: do do our kids mean anything? I'm lost, I'm lost

539
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: for words. I don't even know what to say. Twenty

540
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: five million children already school buses today, twenty five million.

541
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: How can we determine? Authorities determined whether wearing a three

542
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: point seat belt would have saved her life. We know

543
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: the investigation of crashes involved the examination of a vehicle's

544
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: restraints systems, and that means seat belts. Now you look

545
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: at the vehicle that in this case a school bus,

546
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: and it's conditioned post impact, and an expert reconstructionist may

547
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: be able to tell if the seat belt was buckled

548
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: or not at the time of the crash. Now, most

549
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: modern seat belts are installed in the front passenger seats

550
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: of cars, and they are equipped with pretension ers. Pretensioners

551
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: those are pyrotechnic devices that deploy when a vehicle is

552
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: in a crash. Another thing to Mr. Vargas, Miranda's dad

553
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: is if you're not wearing a seat belt, in so

554
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: many cases you hear an alarm. It's in every vehicle.

555
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: If you're not wearing your seat belt and there's pressure

556
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: on that seat, you here an alarm. And school buses,

557
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 1: I don't understand why the car would, why the vehicle

558
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: would even crank up and go and drive until every

559
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: child has on their seat belt. Mr Vargas, you know,

560
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: in many cases, the consequences of the deployment of pretension ers,

561
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: those pyrotechnic devices is the locking of a seat belt,

562
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: and you can look at that and determine what the

563
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: seat belt in place, was it clicked on that way?

564
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: You know whether that is a factor in the case

565
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: regarding three point seat belts. Exactly what are those chuck

566
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: robberts that we've been talking about. They are the kind

567
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: that are in just about every car on the road today,

568
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: and uh there's a huge libbing effort to get them

569
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: on school buses and also uh for a manifest of students.

570
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: These kids had no ideas on them. There was as

571
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: you pointed out earlier, Nancy, there was no GPS device,

572
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: There is no there was no onboard camera to record

573
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: driver behavior, and we heard from the eleven year old

574
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: to the fifth grader, Peter cam and Eddie. He also

575
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: told the legislative family that the kids around him were

576
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: not wearing their belts, most of them. So you have

577
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: all that to digest. You know, the cost of a

578
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: three point belt is about sixty bucks, and that is

579
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: if you go online to try to buy one. Think

580
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: of how little they would cost if they were bought

581
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: in mass and put into existing school buses. To Mr

582
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: Vargas who lost his daughter Miranda in this school bus crash,

583
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: what is your response to what your learning about the

584
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: school bus driver and the horrible decision he made that day.

585
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: Well regarding to the the realfit the outfitting of the

586
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: school bus, Nancy Um, after speaking with the congressmen, the

587
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: information that we found out is that it would be

588
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: under seven thousand knowlars to re out at these these busses. UM,

589
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: and him and I agreed if we have to do

590
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: a big sale to support it, so be it. Um.

591
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: Just legislatives sees this as uh too much money to

592
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: to protect kids. Well that's fine, we'll figure something out,

593
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: but something has to be done. Um, how do I

594
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: feel regarding all the information, I'm I am disgusted. I

595
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: am you know, I am beyond frustrated. I really wish,

596
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: I really wish that this would have been addressed a

597
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: long time ago. Nancy, you said that you know million students, right, Uh,

598
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: we're looking at about six hundred school buses on a

599
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: daily basis, having million kids. Why did this have to

600
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: happen for something to take place, for someone to finally

601
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: wake up and and and where you know this battle

602
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: is not even complete or one yet, but why did

603
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: this have to have Why did I have to lose

604
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: my girl for this to happen for something to take place?

605
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: And that's and I know that what I'm about to say,

606
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: I know this is not the topic of discussion, but

607
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: we look at the schools. How many students have to

608
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: take place for someone to finally step up and do

609
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: something about this? It's a pattern this school. Okay with

610
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, a little interview on TV, great wonderful pat

611
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: on the bad good job, next school? When is something

612
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: I when is this country going to realize that our

613
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: kids are important? I'm assuming they have children, I'm assuming

614
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: they have family that does And again, you don't have

615
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: to be apparent to understand the value of a child.

616
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: So I feel absolutely disgusted, but yet strong and determined

617
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: in making sure that we win this fight. It's I

618
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: know it's going to be an uphill battle, but I'm prepared,

619
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: very honestly, there is nothing that's ever going to stop me.

620
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: I am going to fulfill her legacy. Well, you know what, Giovanni,

621
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: brace yourself because forty two states do not require lap

622
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: and shoulder belts a large school buses forty two forty two,

623
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: and that means that every time most children get on

624
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: a school bus, they're at risk. Our smallest and you

625
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: know what we go through with You have to wear,

626
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: have a booster seat in a car seat, reverse the seat,

627
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: get pointed the back, this and that, the sensors on

628
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: the cars. Twenty five million children at risk, and we

629
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: just go about life with blinders on like it's okay.

630
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: It's not okay, Giovanni Vargas, I want you to speak

631
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: to our listeners now and explain to them what you

632
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: have been going through since Miranda lost her life and

633
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: what needs to be changed now on a daily basis.

634
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, Nancy, it's um it's really a

635
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: struggle just to get by. UM. You know, this morning,

636
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: I woke up and I said to my mother and

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Speaker 1: I said, I think I'm in denial because I still

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Speaker 1: And I guess this is a normal reaction. UM. The

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Speaker 1: pain that we feel on a daily basis is almost

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Speaker 1: as though you're very honestly, I asked myself, am I

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Speaker 1: going to have a heart attack? Because that's how it's cruciating.

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Speaker 1: The pain is. UM. A lot of initial thoughts that

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Speaker 1: made no sense went through our minds, but of course

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Speaker 1: that they went away pretty quick considering that we have Madison.

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Speaker 1: Madison is definitely our our rock, UM, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to continue moving forward for her. UM. In terms of

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Speaker 1: what we need to do going forward, we all need

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Speaker 1: to come together, no matter what it takes, Nancy, for

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Speaker 1: your kids, for my kids, for the kids of America.

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Speaker 1: We have to come together in study for all this

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Speaker 1: We need to focus more on our children. We need

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Speaker 1: to come together. Our voices have to be heard. If

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Speaker 1: if you and I Nancy work together along with every

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Speaker 1: to thank again, UH, the congressman who presented the bill. UM.

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Speaker 1: He's calling it the Safer Act Right, better known as

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Speaker 1: the Miranda Law. UM. I was honored by that, UM,

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Speaker 1: and I would be honored if that actually takes place,

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Speaker 1: if we can name the law after my baby. And

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Speaker 1: I am determined. The anger and the pain that I feel,

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