1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio, Hello 2 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: and welcome too, Ridiculous History, Ridiculous Historians. I am not 3 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: been Bowlen and surprised. I'm not no whatever his last 4 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: name is? Wait, wait, what is his last name? It's Brown. 5 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: We went over this before he actually rehearsed us, and 6 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: I forgot his last name last time. No one do 7 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: know who you are, and I should know Brown because 8 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: I feel like that's fairly simple. But for some reason, 9 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I continue to think I think this is a power 10 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: move because you two have kind of a nemesis relation. Well, 11 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: I've already tried to make Been my nemesis and he 12 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: wasn't going for it. I think he's just too like 13 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: I want to be nice, let's be professional. So I'm 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna maybe maybe I could try this with Nolia. I 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: just want one good nemesis in my life. So I 16 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: just in case you didn't know, I'm Samantha. Yes that 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: is Samantha. I am Annie. We are from the podcast 18 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: stuff Mom never told you. But today is a very 19 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: special day. We are commondeering this show. We are taking 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: it over Been okay, okay, like just yeah, we did 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: not put them in the corner we did not, you know, 22 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: put baby in the corner and tell them they couldn't speak. 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: They asked us, they gave us the privilege of, you know, 24 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: grabbing your ear for a little while. They did. And 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: they will be back regularly scheduled programming. This is a 26 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: very special Monday episode if you're listening to it when 27 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: it comes out, because today is International Women's Day and 28 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: an honor of that, we're taking over ridiculous history and 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: uh for this episode, We're going to look at some 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: of history's most ridiculous beauty and fashion trends. Well not 31 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: only just ridiculous, but somewhat dangerous, absolutely deadly, and and 32 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: it's sometimes flammable, apparently flammable often So if we look 33 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: at beauty standards in a lot of ways, people and 34 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: especially women in this case, have come a long way. 35 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: But I think it's really easy to look back and 36 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: laugh at at beauty standards people had in the past 37 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: or the ways they went about achieving these beauty standards. 38 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: But let's not forget beauty standards are still around and 39 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: people still suffer. Beauty is pain. I heard it recently, right, 40 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: and it is can be very dangerous and it can 41 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: be lethal for some, and it can be costly for 42 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: a lot. And it's definitely a point of contention when 43 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: we talk about beauty standards versus reality. What's damaging and 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: what's just good for your mental health and your self esteem. 45 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: So we definitely don't want to drag that because sometimes 46 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: it's it's nice to look pretty, but at what cost? 47 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: At what cost? And that's certainly I think right now, 48 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: especially when we were talking about feminism, Um, there is 49 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: this intersection of power and oppression, right of like wanting 50 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: to look a certain way and it but then that 51 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: societal obligation to look that certain way, and we can't 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: just you know, it's easy to say, well, just don't 53 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: do it. If you don't want to put on makeup, 54 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: don't do it. But there are things like the pretty 55 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: privilege and and and there have been studies that shown 56 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: that people, especially women, who look a certain way do 57 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: get paid more. So there are things in society that 58 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: we can't control that you can't just dismiss as well 59 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: don't do it, So that that's the problem, like the 60 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: societal expectations and pressure, that's where the issue is. And 61 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I feel like if you want to do it, men 62 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: are women you should be able to do it, but 63 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: again that's what costs and and then who is it 64 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: damage age? Truly, And of course we know that the 65 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: beauty standard and the beauty industry makes tons and tons 66 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: and tonss of money at the expense of its customers sometimes. 67 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: So we're not gonna get into all that. If you 68 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: want to hear about all that, you definitely should check 69 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: out our show because check that out there. But but 70 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: we want to talk about the history of some of 71 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: the things that seems so outlineish today that existed back 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: then just caveat. You know, beauty is a very messy, 73 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: evolving world, so it's really fascinating to look back and 74 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: see how things have just flipped in a lot of cases. 75 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: But also when you're looking at different cultures, there can 76 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: be just very different beliefs about what beauty is. And um, 77 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: trying to be respectful of all of that, and then 78 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: there are very problematic things in here when you're talking 79 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: about like the white standard of beauty, because we are 80 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: going to be largely but not completely focused on Western beauty, 81 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: which has for a long time been uh like white, 82 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: heteronormative and also impossible to achieve for most of us 83 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: unless you want to poison yourself, which we will talk about. 84 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: So we're going to break this down into five main 85 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: groups because there's a lot to go over and this 86 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: is by no means an exhaustive list. Um, So we're 87 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: gonna break it down into skin, teeth, fashion, hair, and 88 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: body shaping. And we're gonna start with skincare because the 89 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: importance of youth that has been a theme throughout history 90 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: when it comes to beauty, to these beauty standards and 91 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: wanting to have that youthful look. And as I'm coming 92 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: up on my like like the years of the forties, 93 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I would say I have realized, yes, this definitely impacts 94 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: all of us, and when you are trying to obtain 95 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: the impossible youth forever goal, which honestly, to be fair, 96 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: my youth was really tiresome. So I'm cool with just 97 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: sitting in my rocking chair and yelling at the kids. 98 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: Do you have a rocking chair one day? And one 99 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: day it's gonna happen. I'm gonna have a rocking chair 100 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sit on my porch and start screaming 101 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: at the kids. And eventually I want to be that 102 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: which on the corner that they have rumors about that 103 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: the children. Wow, that is quite the goal, Samantha one day, 104 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: but now until I get that rocking chair. Yes, I 105 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: definitely have looked at skin regiments and looking at these 106 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: old school ones. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't. Yeah, I 107 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: mean people have resorted to what now seem very odd 108 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: or dangerous choices to achieve this. Look like again, people 109 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: have died for beauty, they have suffered for beauty. So 110 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: if you look at anti regal treatments, for example, uh, 111 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: they're things like ancient Greeks and Romans used animal excrement 112 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: to get rid of wrinkles, and apparently crocodile dung was 113 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: the best. And you know what, there's still stuff used 114 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: today that you're kind of like, wait, would um? I know, 115 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: for a while, some like poisonous venoms were used, um, 116 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: and not too long ago people were using sperm. I guess. Yeah. 117 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: I like the face you're making, a very confused one, 118 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: and I want to put in here I'm not a scientist. 119 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I feel like a relationship is 120 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: based on a lie. It is. I didn't mean to 121 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: tell you this way, but I don't know. Maybe crocodile 122 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: dung actually is good for the skin. It's just odd 123 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: to hear. And also it seems kind of difficult to obtain. Um, 124 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: so interesting in our modern eyes. Um. Also, this is 125 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorite fun facts. UM. Much later, marshmallow 126 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: cream was used for the same thing to get rid 127 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: of wrinkles. According to one ad, it could even fill 128 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: out a shriveled old throat or bust bust. Even I 129 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: like that. I guess we need the marshmallow cream to 130 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: lift our boobies wonderful or shriveled old bust. I feel 131 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: like that's just so sticky. Okay, so that's the thing. 132 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Is Like again, I cannot say for certain that this 133 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: doesn't work. And in fact, if you were to search 134 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: this today, marshmallow of the plant is used in skincare regiments, 135 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: but this was marshmallow cream specifically, And to me that 136 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: sounds the worst thing, like the stickiest worst mess you 137 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: could put yourself in. And as someone who has failed 138 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: very fantastically at making marshmallows before, no, thank you. Well yeah, 139 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie as a dog on this 140 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: seems like a nightmare. This seems like I'm training my 141 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: dog to eat my face off when I die and 142 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: left alone in my apartment because she's like, oh, you 143 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: have marshmallow cream on your face. Yeah, let me eat that. 144 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I like how honest you are with yourself about how 145 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: your dog will eat you at Oh, I absolutely believe 146 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: my dog's gonna eat my face off or something something 147 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: like she's not going to be the cool dog that 148 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: just says waiting patiently for someone to find me, She's like, oh, 149 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: I have to survive. This dummy is dead, so let 150 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: me eat that. Anyways, going on a talk about radium 151 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: unless touchy subject, very better about this radio? Wait what yes? 152 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: So after Marie Currie discovered radium, people started using radium 153 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: in cosmetic lines okay, including though radio produced by Alfred 154 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: Curie no relation, but I suspect was trying to write 155 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: off her name like hitch his wagon to her star 156 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: um and this cosmetical line promise to brighten, rejuvenate and 157 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: promote quote cellular vitality and all kinds of things like 158 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: getting rid of wrinkles, pimples, boils, redness, and halting aging 159 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: all together. Like I think, yeah, it would work. It 160 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: definitely would just burn your face off as well as 161 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: kill you, so it stopped aging. Is that not how 162 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: that goes? I suppose that's one way to I mean, 163 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: it follows through with his promises in this point, it's true. Um. 164 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: There's also this nineteen eighteen ad for Cosmetical Line Radio 165 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: that reads, an ever flowing fountain of youth and beauty 166 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: has at last been found in the energy rays of 167 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: radium energy rays. That's literally a gunpoint at your face. Right, 168 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: is the Star Wars version of those sabers. Yes, it's 169 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: a bunch of little death stars just on your face. 170 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: I love this ad copy, honestly, I love that somebody 171 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: wrote it. And at the time this was apparently like 172 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: energy raised on my face. Wonderful, wonderful. Again, there are 173 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: it's easy to laugh, but there are things that are 174 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: similar to this that people are doing today, and I do. 175 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: I am often curious a hundred years from now, if 176 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: humanity still exists, if we're going to look back and 177 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: be like, what were they doing? Right? But in the 178 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: case of radium, these radium products were outlawed in the 179 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: US and nineteen But now let's talk about arsenic. Oh, 180 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Yes, arsenic for a rosie glow. Uh, 181 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: during the nineteenth century, people in what is now Austria 182 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: and Slovenia may have taken arsenic to quote produce a 183 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: blooming complexion, a brilliant I, and an appearance of inbum 184 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: points or sexy stoutness. Wait, what is that sexy set? 185 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. That may be my new favorite phrase. 186 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put that on read dating site. I'm 187 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: at sexy stoutness. I feel like that is a Dungeons 188 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: and Dragons description of a dwarf or gnome or calm. 189 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Like I said, that's gonna be my title. Well, I 190 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: don't go to correlate the two. And this was from 191 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: an eighteen fifty seven article. And this article also specified 192 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: that people believed it was quote dangerous to take it 193 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: at any time other than the increase of the moon. Yeah. 194 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I think you know, even then people realized arsenic in 195 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: high quantities was not safe. So I think this was 196 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: a way too spread it out. But of course the 197 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: more arsenic you took, the worst your complexion actually got 198 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: over the long run. So the more you had to take. Well, 199 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: what's funny about that is arsenic was used for poisoning, 200 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: specifically to poison people they could not get rid of 201 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: of their life. So we know that way back when 202 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: we have this whole conversation of women coming together and 203 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I can't get divorced. This is how 204 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to kill my husband. This is gonna be perfect. 205 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: And so you know, they knew the dangers of arsenic 206 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: but they still were like, but it gets rid of 207 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: my pimples. Let's do this. So I love the fact 208 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: that they're like, yes, I'm gonna use this to get 209 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: rid of my husband because he's annoying. I don't like 210 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: him always. Of course, it's bigger conversations to that than 211 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: anything else, but just putting it on the simple terms 212 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: of like, at the same time, let me see what 213 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: it does when I put it on me. Yes, yes, 214 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: the things people will do, the things people will do 215 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: for beauty. Um. There were products like Dr Mackenzie's improved 216 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: Harmless arsenic complexion wafers that were available until the nineteen twenties, 217 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: and I love that harmless was in the name right, 218 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: as well as the fact that not only did they 219 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: have these wafers that they were like, oh, if I 220 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: eat this, it's gonna clean me out inside out. So okay, 221 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: but they also used like arsenic to put into a 222 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: splash of their favorite cocktail or drinks in order to 223 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: do the same effects. But then I guess they would 224 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: added tode there, you know, enemies drinks as well, maybe 225 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: in a larger quantity, because you know, we know as 226 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: we look through this and we're gonna talk more about this. 227 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Arsenic is used in hell a lot of products, whatever 228 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: it may be. And the fact that it's like, hey, 229 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: it poisons people, Okay, well, let's also use it for 230 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: something else. It's not just for poisoning anymore. You should 231 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: be you should be publicity for arsenic. It's not just 232 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: for poisoning. It's not just for poisoning anymore. And it 233 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: also closes your skin of pumples. Here we goes both 234 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: don't ask questions. And then we wanted to talk about 235 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: these things called beauty patches. Um so smallpox and syphilis 236 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: they were big problems during the seventeen and eighteen hundred's 237 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: and they left scars on people's faces, which some people 238 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: covered with lead powder inside. Effects may include toothroat, baldness, 239 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: irritation of the eyes, and blackening of the skin. With 240 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: extended use and again. People would then apply more of 241 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: this powder to cover all of that, which meant that 242 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: it became worse. It was this vicious cycle, right, so 243 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: they just kept adding it all and they're like, oh, 244 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: it's the docketing my skin. Let me had a little more. 245 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: I had a little more. You know what? Though, with 246 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: all of that, when we were talking about what we 247 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: were gonna do as we were researching it, I have 248 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: seen a many romantic movies period pieces, and I'm a 249 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: big fan. I never knew that when I would see 250 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: the little stars or see the little hearts patches on 251 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: their faces, what it was, what it was. I thought 252 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: it was completely like decorative. And then learning that this 253 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: was the way they've actually covered up scars, I find 254 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: it genius. So we don't. We talked about these small 255 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: pieces which were made of expensive fabrics like silk and 256 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: velvet and shaped like stars and moons, and they were 257 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: called beauty patches. How perfect is that? I don't really 258 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: want them to come back now? Yeah, I mean, to 259 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: be honest, I would have been so into that. I'm 260 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: not saying I wouldn't do it now, but especially when 261 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: I was younger, because I I remember I used to 262 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: use the slip Boss for a very brief, hot minute 263 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: from Claire's and it had like stars and hearts in it, 264 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: and you could already see the problem. I'm sure, gloss, 265 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: but I did you inguest exactly? But this would have 266 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: been right up my alley, and I think, um, these 267 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: became really fashionable for a time, and the placement of 268 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: these symbols could represent things like married or single, ready 269 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: to mingle, especially when we're talking about this time period 270 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: when it there was a lot of repression of those 271 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: kinds of things going on and a lot of rules 272 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: around courtship. This could be a way to be like, no, 273 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm I don't Yeah, I definitely didn't know that, and 274 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: I love that fact. By the same time, I'm like, 275 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm cynical enough, Like what did they really use it for? 276 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Like was that some kind of like invitation or a 277 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: challenge or what are these days? Because you know, we've 278 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: definitely seen in the present times where kids will do 279 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: challenges and by having different whatever it is, braceless or 280 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: we are stickers or whatever, being into a challenge of 281 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: some sorts, that's a little bit nefarious. I wonder if 282 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: that's became a competition. Yeah, And you know me, Samantha, 283 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: that I'm very oblivious in a lot of these things, 284 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: and I feel like I would have been the person 285 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: that didn't realize if I placed it under my left eye, 286 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: for instance, that it means I'm ready to kill someone 287 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: or something. I'm obviously making this up, but the point 288 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: being that's where are you left to? Don't ask. I 289 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: don't want you to read into that too much. I'm 290 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: just saying I would. I would have just put it 291 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: on my face because I thought the placement was cool 292 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: and not realizing that its signals I was thinking sexually 293 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: a relationship. But you went to killing. So there's that. Okay, 294 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: now we needed not not even know let's pocket that. 295 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Let's put that away, um and talk about hilons for 296 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: a second. Okay. So, due to a nylon shortage caused 297 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: by World War Two, um, there was not enough pantyhose 298 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: to go around, so women resorted to painting their legs 299 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: to get that pantyhose look. But for those who didn't 300 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: want to go with the paint route it could be 301 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: expensive and time consuming. They turned to a household items 302 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: like gravy, which again, I feel like you're going to 303 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: get bugs you're going to be chased by dogs, but 304 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: I guess you'll have that look. You will be that 305 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: dog's favorite person that would eventually gnaw off your leg. However, 306 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: you know you did. In comparison to though the self tanning, 307 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: it kind of is the same thing. Maybe it's not 308 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: directly specifically towards your legs because you want to look 309 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: like you have nylons, But I know that pantyhose went 310 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: out the window, and we would just rather have a 311 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: tan in hopes of not having to wear things on 312 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: our legs and not blind somebody by people's white legs. Right, 313 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: you know there are fragrances associated with that, and that 314 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: that's actually a really a good lead into what we're 315 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: gonna talk about next, because tanning has been something that 316 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: has shifted of the meaning and desirability of it over time, 317 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: because eventually it became in vogue because it represented, especially 318 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: for white people, that you had the time to go 319 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: on vacation in tan Essentially you had the money and 320 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: time to be outside for leisure activities. But one standard 321 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: of beauty that is more problematic in this whole conversation 322 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: throughout time has been skin whitening, and the standard of 323 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: white beauty and the preference for later skin. So toxic lead, 324 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about oh man, Yeah, so Victorian women used 325 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: toxic lead to achieve maximum illness. And we've seen in 326 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: paintings how vogue it was. And not only just white, 327 00:19:55,600 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: we mean like you almost dead or definitely have been 328 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: painted white. That it is. I don't know if it 329 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: actually maybe I don't know enough white people in my life, 330 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: but I feel like that's not true to have seen 331 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: that pill of skin on purpose. I don't know. And 332 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, we also will be talking about a little 333 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: more later. But you know, a lot of the Asian 334 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: cultures would also do the same thing and lighten their skin, 335 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: and and and even today that's still a big thing 336 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: to want to bleach or whiten their skin. But because 337 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: of that, like comparison to that whiteness in comparison to 338 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: the rest of your body, how it natural it was. 339 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: It made people's teeth look yellow, which caused them to 340 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: blacken it. But that's a whole different thing. But it 341 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: is this level of look at me, the paleness of 342 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: my skin reflects on how rich and how acceptable and 343 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: desirable I am, right, right, And and people would go 344 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: during Victorian times, especially in Europe, people would go to 345 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: great links to achieve this, including blood letting to get 346 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: this level of paleness. Yes, I know that the rosy 347 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: thing was a thing too, so they would even use 348 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: leeches to get that blood out. I'm still kind of 349 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: horrified because I don't want those guirmy things on me. Ever, Yeah, yeah, 350 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: Well a famous example is of all of this is 351 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth the First and her Mask of Youth out 352 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: of England, of course, and to further accentuate this paleness 353 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: before the French Revolution, women again in Europe use blue 354 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: pencils to draw and really make their their blue veins 355 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: stand out. Uh. And I even read that they went 356 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: as far as because they wanted it on their clavical 357 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: and near their boobies, that they wanted to draw the 358 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: veins on their chests to make sure you knew, yes, 359 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: even under all of this, I am this white and pale, 360 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: which I feel like that's a whole lot of the conversation, 361 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: but that they would actually draw the veins on their 362 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: breasts as well as their clavicals, and I'm like, wow, 363 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: that's a whole different level of wanting to be really 364 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: only translucent. I just want to point out it's the 365 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: second time you've said boobies. You're welcome. Okay, thank you. 366 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about serial killers for a second. Yeah, I'm 367 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. One of my favorite subjects. Let's go. Yeah. 368 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: I try not to think too hard about that. Hey, 369 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: you're the one that was talked about killing people. I 370 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: don't know. We're not making a good impression. Please understand, 371 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: this is normal. Actually that never mind. Let's let's make 372 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: it worse. Okay, let's do this. And we're also going 373 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: to be talking about virgin blood. Oh yes, yes, So 374 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: in the fifteen to sixteen hundreds, Hungarian Countess Elizabeth Bathory, 375 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: also known as the Blood Countess and the world's most 376 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: prolific female serial killer Guinness World Record certified Boom tortured 377 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: and killed somewhere between one hundred to six d fifty 378 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: young girls and women. There are so many conflicting stories, 379 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: and of course, as I know you listeners are familiar 380 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: with on this show, history and records and record keeping 381 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: can make for a bit of a mess of things, 382 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about something as horrific potentially as this. 383 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: So that's why the range. But she had a lot, 384 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: a lot of legends about her, and clearly, I mean, 385 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: we're still talking about her today, right, I know. Yeah. Also, 386 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: this is one of those things where we go back 387 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, is it really because she did these 388 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: things or is this just the tail in order to 389 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: make her look really, really bad. Of course, there had 390 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: been a few women who said they left and fled 391 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: captivity from her, So maybe I don't know the extent 392 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: of this, but of course we know that it's kind 393 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: of because of her. We have the legend of Dracula, right, right, 394 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: and that is certainly something modernly people people suspect that 395 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: perhaps because she was a woman who owned property, especially 396 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: a big castle, and at the time that was terrifying, 397 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: that all these stories got really exaggerated about her um 398 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: and that's something certainly something to keep in mind. But 399 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: when we're talking about beauty, one of the most enduring 400 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: parts of her story is that she bathed in the 401 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: blood of her victims, believing that virgin blood would keep 402 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: her skin young and fresh, which is terrifying. And I 403 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: can absolutely see why it was so effective even if 404 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't true, right, I Mean, bathing and blood is 405 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: the whole kind of horrital anyway, So talking about young 406 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: women who are the most vulnerable of all species outside 407 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: of children, Okay, yeah, yeah, well you know, actually we've 408 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: had kind of a I also don't want to put 409 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: this in comparison, but you know, a more modern example 410 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: would be the vampire facial right, because Kim Kardashi had 411 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: made some waves when she published a picture of her 412 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: face covered in blood a few years back. Can you 413 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: tell us about that? So I had to go and look. 414 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: This stuck because I was like, what is happening? What happened? 415 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: Of course, the top two headlines had a what is this? 416 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: And be Kim Kardashian and regrets having this? So those 417 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: are the two headlines that you should know. But apparently 418 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: this process is a combination of microderm abrasions followed by 419 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: an application of the PRP which is called the platelet, 420 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: which is actually the platelet rich plasma. And in one column, 421 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: one of the doctors said that the p RP is 422 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: derived from the serum portion of the blood which contains platelets. 423 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: The platelets contain high levels of growth factors which would 424 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: apply to the skin will stimulate cells and turn over, 425 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: So essentially it's trying to bring out the healthy cells 426 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: and try to rejuvenate all of this. So when you 427 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: look at the picture, it's literally just crusted dry blood 428 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: on her face. That caused is caused from the poking 429 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: of her skin. And by the way, if you've looked 430 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: at any of these roly things that have a little 431 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: prickly needles, I have one. I've never used it because 432 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm petrified of this, but it probably makes sense. It 433 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: just seems way too painful for what I'm willing to do. 434 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Those are the questions you gotta ask yourself with beauty 435 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: of like the comfort, what are you willing to to 436 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: suffer for it? This picture of Kim Kardashian is shocking, 437 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: And I know this is ridiculous history, and you're like, 438 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: this is not history, but we did want to keep 439 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: bringing up these kind of modern examples just to continue 440 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: to make the point y. Yeah, exactly, it's easy to 441 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: laugh at these past examples, but we're kind of still 442 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: doing a lot of similar things, right, the micro needling 443 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: thing it exists. Acupuncture has been proven as as a 444 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: stress relief, but to be fair, when you look at 445 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: people who go for full acupuncture, it looks like a 446 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: horrifying the beginning of a movie, torture movie. So there's that, 447 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: but we know there's benefits to it. However, what if 448 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: in twenty years are like, you didn't know as much 449 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: as you thought you did. I think that's probably you 450 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: didn't know as much as you thought you did. Is 451 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: the theme for the every year exactly like every twenty years. 452 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: I think that next generation can say that. Um. Also, 453 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: you can still tour the Castle of Elizabeth Bathory and 454 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: they sell Bathory blood red wine. So they're really leaning 455 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: into this whole thing. And I just want to put 456 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: in here. I remember a few years back there was 457 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: this big news story about injecting, like older folks injecting 458 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: blood from young folks to like get their use in vitality. 459 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 1: So again, like we're still doing these things, all right, 460 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: but let's move on to teeth, uh, and let's talk 461 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: about what you you mentioned earlier, Samantha with the black teeth, right. 462 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: So in one of the things that we looked at, 463 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: they talked about the culture of black teeth, which we 464 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: don't see much of ever anymore because we are obsessed 465 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: with bleaching our teeth. Um, But way back when, Uh, 466 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: in Japan, they would actually to have black blacker teeth, 467 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: and there are several theories as to why, including maybe 468 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: because yes, they dawned on the very white makeup and 469 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: the contrast of their not as white teeth was very, 470 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: very prominent, So therefore they would him. We're like, hey, 471 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this all black, because black was considered 472 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful colors within that culture. And 473 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: to be fair, I love black. Like when you look 474 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: at black onyx and any of those really beautiful stones, 475 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: that's just a glossy black. There's something beautiful about that 476 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: at black, a slimming So I'm cool with that. I 477 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: will wear that all day. It helps you with your emotions, 478 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: that's playing. That's the whole different level. But yeah, so 479 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: black was considered so beautiful and so rare that it 480 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: was also an added, uh function of showing their level 481 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: in society. Also, black boos teeth were kind of a 482 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: measure of your, as we said, maturity, and it not 483 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: only just didn't age, but possibly with sexual um understanding. 484 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: And I read in one column where they said that 485 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: it possibly could have been used within the gay culture 486 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: to show off their sexual maturity as well, that if 487 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: they had that black teeth. Then that's what it shows. 488 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: And it even goes as far as being used into 489 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 1: ghost folklore, which I love because Annie and I, if 490 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: you come to our show, you're gonna understand we love ghosts, 491 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: we love horror, we love all those things, and especially 492 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: what those implications meaning for women or in a feminist lens. 493 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: But this specifically was a woman who was all white faced, 494 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 1: black teeth, but no actual eyes, no nose, just her teeth, 495 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: and she didn't she was apparently harmless. She'd just like 496 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: to scare people. I can get behind that, right, I 497 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: can get hyding that. Uh yeah. So the women and 498 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: actually men did this too, and in fact this is 499 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: a because this went on from two in Japan until 500 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: about the eighteen seventies, and during that time period it 501 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: shifted over who could do it and what it meant. Um. 502 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: So for a period like wealthy men were the only 503 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: ones who did it outside of a few exceptions, and women, 504 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: um but whatever the case, women would drink this tea 505 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: with pieces of iron in it that would oxidize and 506 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: die the liquid black, and scientists actually believe that this 507 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: strengthened the teeth, that they had really strong teeth. They 508 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: were like they had the best teeth ever. And even 509 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: though it looks like what we would consider it rotting, 510 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: they had really strong teeth. And I'm like, Okay, maybe 511 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: we really do need to do this iron teeth. And 512 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: and Japan wasn't the only place that did this, especially 513 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: in in Asia, a couple of cultures had similar practices. 514 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: But also, um, this wasn't the only time black teeth 515 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: were in outside of Asia because Queen Elizabeth the First 516 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: again was a huge fan of sweets, which meant that 517 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: her teeth were blackened and decaying. And it became a 518 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: brief trend for women to blacken their teeth to prove 519 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: that they too had enough money for sugar in Europe. 520 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: So I feel that's the opposite of what was happening 521 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: in Japan. But okay, very very very different, correct, And 522 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: when we look at teeth in general, it has been 523 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: used as a standard of beauty or even just a 524 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: uh divisive issue of what is in and what isn't in. 525 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: And even today we talk about grinding teeth. So when 526 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: we talk about grinding takes, I'm not talking about you know, 527 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: being stressed out, worried about things and doing these things 528 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: inadvertently that you have to go to the dentist for 529 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: we're specifically talking about cultural things where they may have 530 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: ground specific teeth to show that they are a not 531 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: animalistic and it kind of separates them as being a 532 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: higher being. They felt like it was a way of 533 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: measuring their adulthood and maturity and to rectify and show 534 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: that they are of a higher plane. We can say, 535 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: but just an understanding that they were not animals and 536 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: that it separated them from that and the way that 537 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: their teeth were shaped and who they were. Of course 538 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: we do see teeth or that we're sharpened in two 539 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: points and able to show their animalistic manliness as well. 540 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: And we're not gonna say that it's just one because 541 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: it's still practice today. They're still shaping of their teeth 542 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: and we don't quite get what's happening, but it is 543 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: for their specific culture, and I think it's something that 544 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: we note because grinding teeth it sounds like a nightmare 545 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: to me. I have very sensitive teeth growing out, growing 546 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: up with like no enamel on my bottom teeth. That 547 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: sounds like a horror, horrific experience. Which may be part 548 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: of the thing is that it comes through in a 549 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: way of showing your manliness that you're able to withstand 550 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: the grinding of teeth. I don't know, that's just an opinion, 551 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: because I feel like you that you just have to 552 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: go to a whole different level of pain to go 553 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: through that. But also in the way back when days 554 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: they also it would put jewels within their teeth, and 555 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: they found skulls and different are archaeological days that showed 556 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: that they had actual, remaining, beautiful jewels within all of 557 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: their teeth, which I think put them on a different 558 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: social standard as well. Yeah that makes sense. Um also 559 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: sounds painful but makes sense. A well, well, let's move 560 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: on to fashion then, no more teeth. It's not going 561 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: to get much better though. So arsenic we're talking about 562 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: Arsenic again was also used as a dye to get 563 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Paris green, which I have to say, it was a 564 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: beautiful color during the Victorian era. But doctors started to 565 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: notice a link between women's love of this color and 566 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: a rise in the death of young women due to cancer, 567 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: and they put it together. There was enough of a 568 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: link that they saw that they were like, oh gosh, 569 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: stop wearing this color. Right. I like that that I 570 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: have a feeling that they were like stop wearing this color, 571 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: but keep ingesting your way. First, the wafers are fine, 572 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: but the color not good. Not good. Uh, and let's 573 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: talk about the damn courses. Now we have seen many 574 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: a pictures and we know the damage that it could 575 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: have caused, and we even talked about it today where 576 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: they have the shapers, and then there's still kind of 577 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: a conversation of like how healthy is this? Who is 578 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: doing it? Was it for um? But yeah, these courses 579 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: were legitimately towards your chambers to me, like, I cannot 580 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: imagine what kind of pain you had to go through. 581 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: And of course there's rumors and assumptions that it caused 582 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: a lot of damage, including people talking about cracked riz 583 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: possibly people removing ribs. Uh. They used it to get 584 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: the perfect s curve, I believe is what was called. 585 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: And I'm just coming like what no, thank you? Yeah, 586 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: and achieved the fourteen inch waste. Yeah, I'm trying to 587 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: figure that out, Like I'm trying to see that in 588 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: my head as a picture of what fourteen inch so 589 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: that would be half of mine. Oh and you're tiny, yeah, 590 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: and there's a I mean, we're not gonna go too 591 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: deeply into this because I feel like it has been 592 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: discussed in the past, Like there are a lot of rumors, 593 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: like you can't verify historically in the record that people 594 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: got ribs removed, But it's terrifying enough that we believe 595 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 1: it's like people might have done that. That's scary enough. 596 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: And whether who got punctured with like cracked ribs, that's 597 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yeah, yeah, it definitely led to rib 598 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: cage deform to use spineus alignments terrible things. Um, but 599 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: let's talk about the nineteenth century crinoline hoop skirt. So 600 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: so these courses we were talking about, we're also from 601 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century. But this hoop skirt, these hoopskirts were 602 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: made with wood or steel, and they caused all kinds 603 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: of issues from wind gusts, like getting caught up in 604 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: wind gusts, getting caught up in wheels, um, inability to 605 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: get out of door raised and in fact, a fire 606 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 1: at a Chilean church in eighteen sixty three left thousands dead, 607 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: many of whom were women whose crinoline skirts got caught 608 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: in the door and they couldn't get out. Terrifying, Yeah, 609 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: that is horrifying. Could you imagine just having these skarts 610 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: and trying to be pretty, but you're gonna end up 611 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: being up in flames. I know. I definitely read how 612 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: Oscar wild to half Sisters burned to death. Whether crinoline 613 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: skirts caught on fire, no wonder. Oscar is so so jaded. 614 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: First name basis he and I would have been friends, 615 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 1: and I've been like, dude, sorry, that is a horror movie. 616 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine being an address that's just got 617 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: on fire. It is terrifying. And all he wanted to 618 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: do that day was look pretty in your skirt. You 619 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: probably started with very high hopes. You go up. And 620 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about a different skirt. The hobble skirt, also 621 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: called the speed limit skirt whip. I had never heard of, 622 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: so this is ah. It was a long skirt with 623 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: an extremely narrow him around the wears calves and it 624 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: was popular during the nineteen tens. And you know, hobbling 625 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: the word This was a method of tying and animals 626 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: legs together to prevent them from escaping, right, and I 627 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: love that This is the French designer Paul Paray often 628 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: who by the way, is credited for inventing this cart says, Uh, 629 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: he wasn't a fan of the corset m and so 630 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: he stated, yes, I freed the bust. Oh great, thank you, 631 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: but I shackled the legs. Congratulations, Les, congratulationous ball, You're 632 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: the worst. Thank you. And here is a bonus man 633 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: fact um, because men weren't immune to ridiculous beauty turns either. 634 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: And we've we've discussed some of these. Uh, Samantha, you 635 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: like to bring up the calves when calves were super popular. Yeah. 636 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: I love the fact that that that's they were so 637 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: proud of it. And uh, that's a Scrubs episode by 638 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: the way of of the older doctor who's very proud 639 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: of his calves. But yeah, they were showing those calves 640 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: all like nobody's business. Don't worry about the brust, it's 641 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: the calves. It's the calves. Uh. And the copy was 642 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: something that I really floated for this episode, but I 643 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: got shut down. So if you're mad at anybody, take 644 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: it up a bin and knoll Um, even though they 645 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: really had nothing to do with this, but take it 646 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: up with them. Yeah, but here is I had never 647 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: heard of this. Um. It was this high and tight 648 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: collar that men wore during the nineteenth century, especially in 649 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: the upper class, and it was called the father killer 650 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: um and they were pretty much what the name sounds 651 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: like in terms of high and tight color. Not necessarily 652 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: father killer, but these collars could get so tight they 653 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: would cut off oxygen to the brain, and drinking made 654 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing much more dangerous. I mean the very 655 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: fact that it has that nickname. Yeah, did you see 656 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: some of the pictures when you would looking this up? 657 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 1: It literally is just a man sitting up with his 658 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: head hung over to the side because he just he died. 659 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: He died because the oxygen was cut off. And you're like, well, damn, 660 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: that wasn't a good choice for the day, was it? No? 661 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: Once again? But who could know? Who could have known 662 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: that a caller would kill you? Also, I wanted to 663 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: mention sexual piercings. So there's not too much written record 664 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: to back this up, but there's a few, and apparently, 665 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: if we're to believe the record, these were popular among 666 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: those that could afford it during the Victorian era. For women, 667 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: this might mean piercing nipples their nipples and connecting them 668 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: with a chain, while men might pierce the head of 669 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: their penis, and this was called a Prince Albert because 670 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: apparently he had one, and also apparently I don't believe this, 671 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: but I guess it made wearing the ever tighter pants 672 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: that were in fashion more comfortable. Well, we know that 673 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: the Prince Albert supposedly still exists or there were those 674 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: who did it not too long ago, years ago. So 675 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: if that exists, let us know. Doesn't help with with 676 00:39:52,960 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: your pants. Don't let us know, but do not. Let 677 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: us move on now to hair, because historically we've fluctuated 678 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: on where hair should and shouldn't be. Um, so let's 679 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: start with hair removal. Ancient Egyptians and Renaissance women used 680 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: a dangerous mixture of once again arsenic, arsenic yep, and 681 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: quicklime to remove unwanted hair. Yeah, so, ancient great women 682 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: may have used arsenic again among other things, to also 683 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: lighten their hair, since blonde was seen as exotic and 684 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: it still is obviously as we use bleached now safer 685 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: to continue with that tradition. Yes. Uh. And during the 686 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: Middle Ages, when women's foreheads were considered highly attractive, some 687 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: women removed eyelashes and eyebrows to draw attention to it 688 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: and related plenty. The Elder wrote that women's eyelashes fell 689 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: out due to too much sex. So ancient Roman women 690 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: took great care of their eyelashes because it was the 691 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: look look, it was what was trendy, but also to 692 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: prove their chastis okay. As an Asian woman, it that 693 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have that doesn't have a lot of eyelashes. I'm 694 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: very confused. I'm very confused, and I don't understand how 695 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: this is correlated to sex. So I'm gonna need to 696 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: take a minute. Keep going. I I understand the thought process, 697 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's correct. According to article from 698 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: the Dundee Chronicle, here's how eyelash extensions at the time 699 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 1: went down and just like trigger warning, this is pretty gruesome. 700 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: Um quote. An ordinary fine needle is threaded with a 701 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: long hair, generally taken from the head of the person 702 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: to be operated upon. The lower border of the island 703 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: isn't thoroughly cleaned, and, in order that the process may 704 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: be as painless as possible, rubbed with a solution of cocaine. 705 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: The operator, then, by a few skillful touches, runs his 706 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: needle through the extreme edges of the islid between the 707 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: epidermist and the lower border of the cartilage of the tragus. 708 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: The needle passes that and out along the edge of 709 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: the lid, leaving its hair threaded loops of carefully graduated 710 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: like mm hmm. When this article came out, the trend 711 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: had already been around in Europe for at least two decades. 712 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: Oh god, I just can't imagine how many times our 713 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: eyes were poked out. That's like a horror movie in itself. 714 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: Move on next. Yeah, by the way, Yeah, we're gonna 715 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: move on now, because there you go, there's your torture moment. Moment. 716 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: But they also used X rays. Yes, the X rays 717 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: where we are fairly heavily guarded to make sure we 718 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: don't get the extra of the X rays. Uh. They 719 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: actually used that as hair removal at one point in 720 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: time during the nineteen twenties. Uh. It led to serious 721 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: injuries like not surprisingly bone loss. Uh. These devices were 722 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,479 Speaker 1: incredibly wild looking, including the Treaco system invented by Dr 723 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: Albert C. Geyser. He recommended a series tend to twenty 724 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: short treatments. I don't know how many short treatments we're 725 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: gonna handle. In general. Up until the nineteen forties, medical 726 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: journals reported on the cases of women injured and other 727 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: ill effects of using this system, this really bad system, 728 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: and they definitely don't recommend it today. No, it kind 729 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: of looks like a big mr I that you like 730 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: put things you wanted to get to be costly too, 731 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: like why it was huge. Um. But on the other hand, 732 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 1: there have been instances of when hair, especially big hair, 733 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: has been in vogue. And I know I've been in 734 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: all have done an episode on wigs. Why did people 735 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: why did judges wear wigs before? And so we're just 736 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: going to briefly touch on this. But in in the 737 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: eighteenth century, women when these big, tall wigs were in fashion, um, 738 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: they would use lard to keep this hair in place, 739 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: these wigs in place, and that went to lice infestations, 740 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: rhett infestations, and then with cages to keep out the 741 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: and scratching sticks. And by the way, this was also 742 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: very flammable, and if you look through some of the history, 743 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: there's conversations of people dying from their ways catching on fire. Yeah, 744 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: we laugh, but it's sad. It's unibrows. At one point 745 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: during ancient Greece, Union brows, often made of goat hair 746 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: or painted on the pigment, were all the rage, and 747 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: they could symbolize things like intelligence, and in some parts 748 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: of the world today unibrows are considered the fashionable beauty 749 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 1: standard that you want to achieve. Um ancient Chinese women 750 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: shaped and painted their eyebrows and various colors like blue, 751 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: and I believe other Asian cultures during that time did similar. 752 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: And by the way, once upon a time, not having 753 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: eyebrows was also a thing. When we were talking about 754 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: the no like the large foreheads, they would also take 755 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: off the eyebrows because they wanted the foreheads, and by 756 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: they actually used standpaper like to stand off the hairs. 757 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: Know that sounds horrible, but then again, I was just 758 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: thinking about the fact that to this day you can 759 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: still go pour hot wax on your leg and then 760 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: rip it off. That's also really painful. Honey laser like 761 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I'm telling you, let's move to body 762 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: shaping and modification, and let's talk about Belladonna or deadly nightshade. 763 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: So these were drops for the eyes used to achieve 764 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,919 Speaker 1: a sexy and seductive, blown out wide eye to look 765 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: that do we look like you were? So you know, 766 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: the deer and the headlights look. They love that yeah, call, 767 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: it was caused by dilation, a deluded version of the 768 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: active ingredient which is used to dilate eyes to this day. 769 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: But they usually tell you don't drive after the side 770 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: because exactly um, but undiluted. The side effects may include vertigo, headache, 771 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: blurred vision, and potentially blindness. And just by the way, 772 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: Belladonna means beautiful woman. Yes, beautiful woman who's gonna blind you? Well, 773 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: every beautiful woman is dangerous and might kill you according 774 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: to our horror series, yes I'm being sarcastic. Oh, I'm sorry, 775 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: but according to the horror movies, yes, I'm still sticking 776 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: with that. But we also want to talk about head shaping, 777 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: which was used in several different cultures way back when, 778 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: way like when they've had archaeological digs and discovering heads 779 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: that had been elongated to have cone shaped heads, which 780 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: they stated it would have been done um within like 781 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: a month of their birth and banded, bandaged up um. 782 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: And of course they talked about the fact that, yeah, 783 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: this would have caused a lot of damage and sometimes death, 784 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: which is really sad um. And we know that shaping 785 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: is not new. It's not a new thing, and it's 786 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: been around, and it kind of still around. Um in 787 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: several different other aspects of ways. I've actually seen where 788 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: they were binding breasts to stop the growth of the 789 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: breast tissues because they wanted small breast, which I'm like, yeah, cool, 790 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: I would have been in then. Um. And then we 791 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: can talk about foot binding, which we're not gonna get 792 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: too into obviously because it's been discussed and if you've 793 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: seen those pictures, they are painful, including the fact that 794 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: women had to really learn to walk after the bidenings occurred. 795 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: And this whole aspect of the smaller feet, which is 796 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: still a joke today, uh used against women about having 797 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: big feet is a bad thing for women, great for 798 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: men apparently, like even shaming men in general about their 799 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: feet size as well. So it's a whole other thing. 800 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: And it started in the tenth century and yeah, and 801 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: then the practice happened continued in China until nineteen forty nine. Again, 802 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: it's the whole thing if you look at what happens. 803 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and and that's worth its its whole episode. 804 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: But we did want to mention it because there are 805 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,959 Speaker 1: modern day similarities in terms of things that people are doing, 806 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: like toe shortening, tobesity and Cinderella procedures, so that they're 807 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: feet in. Generally we're talking about women here will fit 808 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 1: better in heavils and those Sometimes those hills are no joke. People. 809 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: They can be I'm I'm scared of heels. And then 810 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: dangerous diets, I would say, also falls in this category. Um, 811 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about too many of them, 812 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: because yes, that could also be it's a whole episode, 813 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: and you can contact but a Knoll if you want 814 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: to hear more about that, you can contact us. We 815 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: can take over again. But they have had it on 816 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: our show. We may have already talked about it. But 817 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 1: one of the famous examples of this is the tapeworm diet, 818 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: which actually may or may not have existed. A nineteen 819 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: twelve article in the Washington Post titled tapeworm pills for 820 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: fat People merely a wild yarn, says experts claim that 821 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: it was just a myth. However, you can still find 822 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: old ads for it. So it reminds me of what 823 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: we said earlier. I think the terrifying thing about this 824 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: is I believe it could exist, right, And if you 825 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: look at diets today, some seem really really out like 826 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: far fetched, but they is so I could not imagine 827 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: what we know today and the diece that exists today 828 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: and what we didn't know way back when and what 829 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: may have existed then yes, oh yes, Well, speaking of 830 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 1: we wanted to close this out with some contraptions, because 831 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: who doesn't love a terrifying contraption Probably a lot of people, 832 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: but um, and we wanted to start with the dimple stamper, 833 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 1: which was invented in n quote spring loaded contraption that 834 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: promised to make a fine set by pressing a pair 835 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: of knobs into the cheeks. I'm telling you, please, if 836 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: you would like to, I don't want to pressure you, 837 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: but I look up pictures hilarious. They're terrifying and very funny. Yeah, 838 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: And I went out a brief rabbit hole because I 839 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: was just sort of curious about why dimples. Dimples are attractive, 840 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: and it seems like the main theory is that it 841 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: reminds us of youth that we've seen throughout this and 842 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: to this day there are dimple piercings and surgeries. Yeah, 843 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: and then also there's the freckle remover, which, by the way, 844 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: apparently still exists. It is not the same contraptions but 845 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: the idea of removing freckles, which I'm confused by because 846 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: I thought that that was in and has been in 847 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: because freckles are cute. Keep your freckles, I'd like them. 848 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: But apparently, whether it's they're scraping it off or they're 849 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: burning it off with chemicals or all of these things, 850 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: they're still chemicals and gadgets that are used. But if 851 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 1: you look at the old school things, it literally is 852 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: like they're trying to scrape it off your face. Weird. 853 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: Oh well, all right, let's talk about dr Max Chin 854 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: reducer and beautifier is hilarious. Okay, So this looks like 855 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: a leather strap or some fabric around the forehead and 856 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: then over the top of the head with what appears 857 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: to be these metal pulleys with cords threaded through them 858 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: that you're meant to pull out. You you pull that 859 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: they were kind of resting along your cheeks, and you 860 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: pull on them to quote massage your double chin away. 861 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: Only ten dollars Antha, Yeah, here's the ad. What better 862 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: investment could be made? Curves of youth will be yours 863 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: if you pull the chords, pull those chords. It'll work perfectly. Also, 864 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,320 Speaker 1: I thought double Gen's had more curves. I'm confused. I 865 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: don't think we should question too deeply the logic of 866 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: these ads, and I think that will get us in 867 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 1: a loop that we won't be able to escape from. 868 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: Um also, no shapers, So this was like a helmet 869 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: for your nose. It was like a case who knows 870 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,919 Speaker 1: that was held in place by two straps around your head, 871 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 1: promising to give you the perfect nose. Right and forget 872 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: that that the facts that you have, the cartilages and 873 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, bones and your nose, this will be perfect 874 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: for you. Which also looks like a ridiculous bandage monster movie. 875 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 1: It does. And speaking of monster movies, we've got to 876 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: talk about the beauty micrometer because I laughed aloud when 877 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: I saw this one. It looks like something out of Hell. 878 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: Raiser Ore saw is the torture machine. It absolutely looks 879 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: like a torture machine. And here's the ad for it. 880 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: Recently perfected by Max Factor, one of Hollywood's most famous 881 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: beauty experts. A new instrument designed to aid makeup men 882 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: accurately registers actors facial measurements and discloses which features should 883 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: be reduced are enhanced in the makeup process flaws almost 884 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: invisible to the ordinary I become glaring distortions when thrown 885 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: upon the screen and highly magnified images, but factors beauty 886 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: micrometer reveals the defects. The device, remotely resembling a baseball 887 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: mask um nah, fits over the head and face. The 888 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: flexible metal strips metal strips, which is conformed closely to 889 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: the various features. The strips are held in place by 890 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: a set of screws along for three possible adjustments. For instance, 891 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: the subjects noos is slightly crooked, so slightly in fact 892 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: that it escapes ordinary observation, The flaws promptly detected by 893 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: the instrument, and corrective makeup is applied by an experienced operator. Okay, 894 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: first of all, three hundred twenty five possible. Really, I 895 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: just I don't like being told the one thing that's 896 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: wrong with that phase, the ten things, five different ways. No, 897 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: thank you. I don't need a machine to tell me 898 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: that I am I have a quote defect, but that 899 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: I can't see. That's not necessary. I don't want it 900 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: in my life. No one can see it, but we 901 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: can see it and tell you, Oh girl, you're gonna 902 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: change that real quick. My other favorite, and it doesn't 903 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,959 Speaker 1: seem like it would be a big thing. It's called 904 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: the hair wave machine, and yes it is what you think. 905 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: This is for women who wanted curls in the nineteen hundreds. 906 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: You know who doesn't love that cute look? Um, and 907 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: they had this device for them. It looks like literally 908 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: looks like a matrix which I just recently watched again 909 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 1: set prop to torture you. Uh, these tubes and pipes 910 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 1: sucking human was dry. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I'm taking 911 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: your soul and your brain waves. Um, but all concentrated 912 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: yes on the head, so it's all like it's a 913 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: I feel like the pictures I saw had a person 914 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 1: in scrubs, so like, oh yeah, they're they're taking your 915 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: brain brun girl runs um and women sit under these 916 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: things for ten hours with the risk of possibly being 917 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: burned or being bald. No, it's terrifying this picture. Uh yeah. 918 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 1: Once again the things we have been willing and are 919 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: continually willing to do for beauty. Um that we have 920 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground in this episode, and we 921 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: have also introduced a lot of pathways for future episodes 922 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: because a lot of these topics should be covered more. Yes, 923 00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: you should be covering these subjects. Just kidding, uh, but 924 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you all for sticking with us on 925 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: this journey on International Women's Day or whenever you have 926 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: and to be listening to this. Um. Thanks to Casey Uh, 927 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 1: the amazing wizard behind the scenes. 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