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Speaker 1: I accidentally deleted this, uh this question. I didn't mean to,

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Speaker 1: So these situations are very, very complicated. With quarterbacks. There

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Speaker 1: Question about the lack of interest in Lamar. I completely

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Speaker 1: John Love, listen to the podcast. My question is for

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Speaker 1: the mailbag, what does guaranteed money really mean? Does that

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Speaker 1: go against the cap or is it just money that

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Speaker 1: the team owner doesn't want to dish out. Well, the

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Speaker 1: moment I give you, let's just pick an even number,

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars and I give you a five

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Speaker 1: year deal, I can amortize. Anyone in real estate that

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Speaker 1: has property knows about like depreciating the asset over time.

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Speaker 1: That's essentially what you do with the guaranteed money. So

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Speaker 1: when I give you a guaranteed contract, all that money

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Speaker 1: is going on my books. The other money is somewhat

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Speaker 1: fake because I can get out of it at any moment.

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Speaker 1: So on the player side, if I get guaranteed money,

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Speaker 1: that guarantees at minimum a couple of years that I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be on the team because they can't cut

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Speaker 1: me or trade me. Right, So that is real dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of players that get twenty thirty guaranteed and

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Speaker 1: get sixty seventy eighty million dollars fake contract. If those

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Speaker 1: guys play well, they see the majority of that contract, right.

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Speaker 1: I think a good example is Jay von Hargrave. He

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Speaker 1: just played out his three year deal with the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I think at the time, this is just going off memory.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was like three years, thirty nine

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Speaker 1: million dollars. I don't know offhand what the guaranteed money

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Speaker 1: Roseman and Lurie gave him, but it wasn't that number.

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Speaker 1: Yet he played every single year throughout his contract to

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Speaker 1: become a free agent, so he saw every penny of that. Now,

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Speaker 1: if it had gone shitty, they would have could have

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Speaker 1: pivoted like this year. But I think the guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: There's this mechanism that a lot of people think is

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Speaker 1: kind of archaic in football, is that if I guarantee

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Speaker 1: someone fifty million dollars within a year, I have to

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Speaker 1: either pay that money out or put it into an

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Speaker 1: escrow account, which is something that I think was originally

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Speaker 1: written into the by laws in like the seventies and eighties,

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Speaker 1: because at the time, you know, not everyone had the cash.

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Speaker 1: Now everyone has the money. Now some teams have more

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Speaker 1: cash on hand than others. But the guaranteed money, it's

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Speaker 1: also on the player side, you know, an injury risk,

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Speaker 1: right because in basketball or baseball, if I signed one

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract, that money is guaranteed. Whether I,

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Speaker 1: you know, my leg falls off a year into the

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Speaker 1: contract or whether I suck like that, that money's guaranteed

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Speaker 1: to come to me. In the NFL, when I signed

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Speaker 1: you to a five year, one hundred million dollar contract,

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Speaker 1: but I only guarantee twenty five million of that contract,

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Speaker 1: Like if ship goes wrong, I can get out and

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Speaker 1: I actually don't have to pay you a large percentage

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Speaker 1: of the contract. Obviously, different teams, I would say, right,

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Speaker 1: different language, do different ways of roster bonuses in years

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Speaker 1: the guarantee you know, times of the year in the

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Speaker 1: offseason where if you're still on the team, your contracts guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: You know, some teams I know of one that likes

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Speaker 1: putting it closer to April first than March fifteenth, because

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Speaker 1: it gives them a little wiggle room if they want

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Speaker 1: to upgrade as a free agent and get rid of

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Speaker 1: you and other teams. You know, and certain players have

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Speaker 1: more leverage where they put that mechanism, you know, before

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Speaker 1: free agency, so you either have to pay me guarantee

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Speaker 1: my salary for the upcoming year, let's say I'm a

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Speaker 1: twelve million dollar player, or cut me before free agency

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Speaker 1: so I can hit the open market, which I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, part of the contract situation in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is kind of what makes it fascinating because most of

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Speaker 1: us don't. You'd really have to get you know, a

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman parag murate to and even and listen, I've

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Speaker 1: been just how to describe to me by those guys

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Speaker 1: in terms of I just had questions over the years,

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Speaker 1: and it's still pretty complicated, it really is. You know

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Speaker 1: that there's no those guys, you know, all throughout the league,

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Speaker 1: the salary cap guys, they know it like the back

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Speaker 1: of their hand. But like I don't think most coaches

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Speaker 1: could tell you the you know, the intricacies and the

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Speaker 1: true details of how a contract works. Besides some of

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Speaker 1: the basic stuff maybe a signing bonus, maybe you're you know,

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Speaker 1: you're yearly cash flow. But there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: moving parts that I think the best teams are good

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Speaker 1: at because all I hear is like, oh, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: you know, against it and they always figure out a way.

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Speaker 1: You know, the forty nine ers are always getting sweet

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Speaker 1: players and turning it and figuring it out. So the

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Speaker 1: having a salary cap guy and or a money guy

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Speaker 1: and be one of your lead executives is really really important.

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Speaker 1: It really is. So I hope that's a good way

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Speaker 1: of describing it, and yeah, we'll get you out of

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Speaker 1: here on that one. Have a good if you're listening

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, good Sunday. If you're listening to during the week,

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Speaker 1: let's go baby. The volume