WEBVTT - Sen. Rand Paul - December 20th, Hour 3 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.080 This is Peter Schweitzer. I'm here with Eric Eggers. We 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.160 are filling in for Sean on the Sean Hannity radio show. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.240 He's getting some well deserved rest, and we are tracking 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.880 events on Capitol Hill where it is Christmas chaos in 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.799 the Capitol. They are apparently right now getting ready to vote. 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.360 They may already have started to vote on the third 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.040 version of this bill. The first two, of course, were 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.080 shot down. This is planed C and Eric, this third 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.040 version apparently is going to provide government funding through March, 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.760 is going to provide disaster relief and pharm assistance. It 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.920 is not going to get rid of the debt ceiling issue, 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.680 which was the problem with the previous bill. So we're 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.600 going to track that and in a couple of minutes 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.879 we're going to have on Senator Rand Paul, who is 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.800 in the middle of all of that chaos and craziness. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.239 You talk about Christmas chaos in the Capitol, which I 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:50.640 just want to point out. You know, you're a best 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.920 selling author and you and I host the podcast together 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.960 called The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer, so you do 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.040 have some broadcast experience, but to drop the triple alliterative 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.600 on national radio Triple c An. It's impressive, and I 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.640 just want to acknowledge that in front of everybody. But 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.200 it is actually quite chaotic. You know, you're the one 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.920 that pointed out we're actually in a weird spot where 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.000 last night with the vote, you had Elizabeth Warren agreeing 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.640 with Donald Trump. Yeah, you had thirty eight members of 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.000 the House disagree, and that's one of the reasons why 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.000 we're having a new vote. One of the members of 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.399 Congress that disagreed Nancy Mace, we spoke to last hour, 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.120 and she said that one of the problems that they 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.640 have is that they are actively lied to. Those are 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.120 her words about what the US Senate can and cannot 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.120 do in terms of the House. Can they take up 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.319 these single subject bills? She says, we are told that 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.679 they cannot do that. So one thing we will ask 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.920 Rand Paul about is, hey, are you prepared to take 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.880 more than one vote to keep the government open if 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.920 it means that, you know, we don't have to pass 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.520 a bill that increases spending, no matter how many pages, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.760 whether it's a fifteen hundred and forty seven or one 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.200 hundred and sixteen. Nancy Mace's point was the pages went down, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.520 the spending stayed the same. Seems to be the sticking point. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.480 What I want to know from you, Peter Schwatzer, You've 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.720 spent a career documenting the ways in which members of 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:13.680 Congress use positions of public power for personal financial gain. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.760 Of all the things that were in that fifteen hundred 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.320 page bill, the thing that jumped out to both of 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.640 us was the idea that Congress was trying to vote 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.360 itself a pay raise. What was your reaction to that? 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.280 Yeah, I mean, it's not surprising. I mean, and this 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:31.400 is the problem. There are no incentives, really no incentives 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.880 for a member of Congress to limit the federal budget, 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.520 federal spending, and there are very few incentives to avoid 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.560 trying to figure out creative ways to self and enrich. Now, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.519 they don't want to do it in public, they want 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.320 to try to hide it. They embed it, and they 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.680 do it in a way that is hard to track. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.639 So it's not going to necessarily say a forty percent 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.320 pay raise. What it's going to say is this law 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.920 is this legislation is going to amend a previous issue 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.560 when it comes to how much members of Congress are 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.760 paid and that's how they get the pay raise, and 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.400 that is the inherent problem. So I applaud Nancy Mace, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.400 I applaud Chip Roy and some of the other people 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.640 who set on principle you know what, No, we have 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:15.720 to stop spending money. And this is going to be 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:21.200 the challenge, I think for Donald Trump, because every American president, 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.400 even Ronald Reagan, who was the president I grew up on, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.639 the president that I love very hard to get presidents 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.400 to stop spending money because it helps you look good, 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.639 You're helping your constituency, you're helping the country, It sort 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.800 of helps the economy boom. The problem is you are 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.680 passing down debt for the next generation. So this is 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.160 going to be an early indication of how much progress 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.240 of any we're gonna make on that topic. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.640 So it's interesting that you use that metaphor, because, yeah, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.640 you've made the point, and we've made the point on 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:54.000 our podcast and elsewhere. That's spending, largely government spending, our money, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.840 tax dollar spending is on autopilot, right And part of 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.480 the problem with that is there are very few incentives 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.080 to keep you from doing it, Like zero who's in 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.560 favor of you not spending money It's the example I 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.120 like to use is if you decide to pay off 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.200 your house, ye what you know, no one makes more money. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:12.920 If you decide to pay off your house, pay off 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:14.840 your mortgage. You know, the bank wants you to have 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.200 the loan, your financial advisor wants you to keep the 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.520 money in the market. So no one's making money if 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:23.400 you do that. And what's interesting now about this moment 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:27.159 is the reaction on social media to what they try 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.040 to do actually suggests that there might be an incentive 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.120 to rain down spending because for the first time the 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.359 American people via social media channels, because of Elon Musk 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:37.839 and because of the mandate that we now have with 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:42.000 him and Vivicrimswami, there is a political incentive to do 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.039 it because that seems to be what the American people 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:44.680 are supporting. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.160 There is, there is, and look, I think dose is great. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.760 I think having two outsider smart businessmen who are running 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.919 this is a great way to do it. Here's the 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.000 fundamental problem, though, Eric, if you look at the numbers 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.440 of our federal budget, if you were to cut the 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:03.640 work of the federal government in half, which is probably 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.240 not going to happen, it's going to be more like 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.360 ten to twenty percent. Even if you cut the federal 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.440 workforce in half, it's going to put a minor dent 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.240 in the deficit. The vast majority of spending by our 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.960 federal government is on entitlement programs. It's fixed. And while 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.080 a lot of people, Donald Trump has come out in 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.120 favor of it, Elizabeth Warren has come out in favor 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.360 of getting rid of the debt ceiling. And it seems 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.039 this ridiculous, archaic thing that every once in a while 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.160 you have to vote to raise the debt ceiling. It's 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.919 literally the only time members of Congress actually have to 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.160 talk about federal spending. The rest of the time they don't. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.800 So I'm not in favor of getting rid of it. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:44.920 It seems ridiculous. It's just kind of is the government 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:46.880 going to shut down? Is it not going to shut down? 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.800 It's ridiculous, it seems, but it's the only time they 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.359 actually have to address the fact that they are spending 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:55.520 us into oblivion. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.799 Are you concerned that Donald Trump seemed to support something 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.800 that would have suspend that discussion, that one kind of 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.479 crux where you actually have to have a hard conversation 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.400 for the next two years and given his track record previously. Look, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.599 Donald Trump did a lot of things really well. You 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.400 and I were both very supportive of the idea of 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.760 his reelection. But the reality is is that if there's 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.760 one thing that maybe wasn't great under Donald Trump, and 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.560 it's consistent with every president, spending did not go down. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.400 I mean that the deficit did not go down, the 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.960 debt did not go down. This is a moment to 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.200 have a hard conversation with the American people. But what 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.919 is positive is we seem to be having it together. 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.600 And you know, you use the word chaos. We made 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.599 the point in the first hour. Chaos is a good thing. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.360 This is a healthy thing. This is actually what democracy 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.040 is supposed to look like. We were told that democracy 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.680 was on the ballot, and we vote for Joe, we 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.160 vote for Donald Trump, and you know, that's the actual threat. 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.279 Joe Biden is the one that was going to save democracy. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.839 And then unfortunately he like had to take a nap, 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.560 and so he went away, and then here comes Kamala 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.640 Harris and then somehow the person who received no primary 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.840 votes was the one that was going to defend democracy. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.160 And so unfortunately, right or actually fortunately, Donald Trump did 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.680 win and as a result, we actually this is what 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.159 democracy and action really looks like. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.400 Yeah, no, you're exactly right. And look, I mean I 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.080 think Donald Trump wants to get rid of the debt 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.440 ceiling because he's a businessman, and he says, this is inefficient. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.160 Why do we need to do this? This is kind 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.440 of a rote thing for us to be doing. But 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.880 I think that rote thing is absolutely necessary. I hope 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.440 that he's going to reverse course because when he announced 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.160 his support for that, Ye, those on the left, Elizabeth Warren, 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:36.000 the Americans Prospect, which is a very left wing publication, 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.680 they said Trump is offering us the deal of a lifetime. 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.520 They have wanted to get out from under the debt 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.960 ceiling forever because they don't believe that debts and deficits matter, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.240 and of course it does. All you have to do 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.400 is look at our federal budget. We are now going 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.200 to be get set next year to be spending more 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.440 money as a federal government on paying interest on our 0:07:57.480 --> 0:07:59.920 debt than we're paying on national. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.640 Defense, which is not a thing you hear. And that's 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.720 another thing that unfortunately the American people are lied to. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.960 And that's another thing that we have spent time talking 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.120 about in this program. There's reported in the Wall Street 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:15.160 Journal that showed how extensively the Biden administration efforted to 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.200 lie to us about how weak Joe Biden was. You 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.600 and I our last podcast episode, which you can find 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.240 at the drill down dot com, was about Bill Clinton 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.080 and Bill Clinton's new memoir and the lies he's telling, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:31.280 Yeah in his book about kind of actually you because 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.160 some of your great reporting was in this book, Clinton Cash, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.520 and it was about how much money Bill Clinton made 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:39.440 and how much you know, how much money that don't 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.480 the foundation raked in when Hillary was Secretary of State, 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.680 And like there's a Washington Post review that says, oh no, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.559 there's all been debunked. And even though donations to the 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.559 Clinton Foundation dropped ninety three percent after she stopped becoming 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.680 to presidential candidate and was no longer secretary of State. 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.840 So you know, we've been lied to on a regular basis, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.280 and unfortunately, you know, that's actually the fight it needs 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.839 to happen. It's not about the dead ceiling, it's not 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.559 about spending. It's about can you continue to lie to 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.920 the American people. And that's where we have a brand 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.040 new tool at our disposal. And I do think it 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.320 is the new Trump administration with Elon Musk's support, because, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.760 to quote him, the media is no longer the gatekeepers 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.000 like everyone else at the media, and each lie gets 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:19.480 called out for the falsehood that it is. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.079 Yeah, I mean, what do all these stories have in common? 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.160 You know, the Clinton and the Clinton scandals, what happened 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.560 with the Bidens, the issue of Joe Biden's cognitive ability 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.400 or lack thereof. In every single case, you had mainstream 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:38.480 media acting as gatekeepers, trying to prevent people from having actual, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.640 real information that they have a right to know about, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.319 that they deserve to know about. And the news organizations 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.160 are supposed to report on those days I think are gone. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.640 You now have with Twitter acts. The debate over this 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.679 budget is the one that is absolutely at the center 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.520 point of the conversation. That's a Twitter acts. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.079 So, Rand Paul, we thought we were going to have 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.840 it five ten. It turns out there's an other debate happening, 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.480 not just on this program, but there's a debate happening 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.080 on the Senate floor, and Rand Paul is actually in 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:05.959 the middle of it right now. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.120 So he you mean, he's picking sitting on the Senate 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.880 floor to talking to me. I'm shocked. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.080 I often am shocked. Ironically, we talked about Clinton cash. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:14.800 I want to give Rand Paul a hard time for 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.559 getting us in trouble by leaking some of those revelations. 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.080 In the meantime, we are talking about the federal spending 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:21.679 and the efforts of Dog and we have a caller, 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.720 a John, who wants to talk about what exactly that 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.240 could look like. John from Pittsburgh. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:31.839 There, Hey, fellows, I really hope when they're tankering the 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.559 budget they're not going to take away those critical tax 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:37.400 deductions for our sex club sees. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.000 Okay, yeah, Well everybody's got their pet project, right. 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.760 Hey, it's the holiday season, John, you know, and everybody's 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:47.839 got unwined a little bit. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.040 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, but here's the thing when 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:52.760 it comes to all these debates, and this is the 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:57.319 problem why cutting money is so difficult. It's cutting money 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.240 because everybody has a constituent, see right. And so when 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.439 you say we're going to cut this program and it's 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.600 going to be two point five billion dollars, whether it's 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.800 what John wanted or something else, you are now going 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.000 to have that industry rising up and all they have 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.200 to do is pick up a few powerful members of 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.360 Congress to make that sort of go away. So the 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.920 exciting thing about the conversation with Doge, with the Veck 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.040 and with Elon Musk is that we are having this 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.959 conversation that going to come up with really smart ideas 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:33.280 and smart solutions. The reality is they're very easy. There 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:38.680 are very few easy solutions that can just take effect 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.080 without Congress having to vote for it. So you're gonna 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.600 have to get this through Congress. There's a razor thing 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:47.400 Republican majority, and we've already seen there's some Republicans that 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.840 are willing to, you know, let's say, go off the reservation. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.679 So it's not going to be as easy as it sounds. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.040 But you've got to keep fighting the fight because it's 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:56.640 worth fighting for. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:02.079 Is that another Elizabeth Warren reference? Just checking anyway, We're 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.199 going to continue to have the difficult conversations, sometimes about 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.920 topics like John Ray, sometimes about other people you know, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.880 and other compromising positions. Let's just say, but that's a 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.680 conversation we continue to like to have with you. Thank 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.160 you for joining us on your Friday, the last Friday 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.960 before the Christmas holiday, and we appreciate Sean giving us 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.800 a chance to talk about the work we've done on 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.080 our drill Down podcast. We'll be right back after this. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.959 He's Peter Schweitzer. I'm Eric Eggers. You can find our 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.240 work at the drill Down dot com. And we're back 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.360 on the Sean Handy Show after this break. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.560 This is Peter Schweizer. I'm here with Eric Eggers. We 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.960 are filling in for Sean Hannity. We do the drill 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.840 Down podcast. We would love for you to check it out. 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.760 We are tracking a number of stories, including the vote 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.920 on Capitol Hill. We're going to be joined by Senator 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.439 rand Paul we hope at the bottom of the hour. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.960 He's actually on the Senate floor right now. Also tracking 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.440 the story in Germany, this horrific story in maud dee 0:12:56.480 --> 0:13:00.640 Burgh where apparently a car was driven through a Christmas market. 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.559 There are numerous fatalities, eighty people injured. It was an 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:09.800 attack and they have now apparently arrested a Saudi man 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.720 who is fifty years old. He's apparently a doctor who 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:18.959 was there on a permanent residence permit and they believe 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.360 that he is the individual that's behind this attack. They 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.920 are saying it is a loan attack. That's what they 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:24.840 believe at this point. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.480 And to me, one of the startling things about this 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.200 story is apparently there was some disturbance yesterday. There was 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.400 tension between people in the German market and a group 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.840 of migrants, and there was you know, some a public 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.760 a fray if you like. And the point that people 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.520 are making who are commenting on this tragedy, because you've 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.199 got anywhere from two to eleven people being reported dead, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.920 eighty people injured, as you noted, But while we in 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.520 America can see videos of the car which is grotesque 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.320 and horrific, just careening through this crowd of people, people 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.640 in Germany and in Europe could not share this same 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.080 video wow, because of censorship laws in case it was 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.200 presented or portrayed as something as being anti migrant. And 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.800 we've seen other reports of censorship law keeping people from 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.800 commenting and people are being held accountable for social media 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:19.240 posts in Europe. It's a very different experience there than 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.040 it is for us in the United States, where you 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.400 and I can sit here and host the program and 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.920 criticize the President of the United States and talk about 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.000 how many migrants might be deported. Moving forward, on Trump administration. 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.800 Those are freedoms we enjoy still in this country that 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:34.160 others in the world do not. 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:36.480 Yeah, here's the other thing that strikes me in this 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.160 And of course this is one individual. It's not indicative 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.920 of everybody. But you know, apparently there was this issue 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.240 that happened yesterday and we don't know who started and 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.160 what happened, and it's terrible, but one individual decides that 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.000 he's going to take it out on a bunch of 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:54.960 other innocent people that were probably not even involved in 0:14:55.000 --> 0:15:00.800 that confrontation. And it just speaks to what is evil. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:03.840 And you know, they are terrible things going on in 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:07.160 the Middle East right now, innocent people that are dying. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.640 But you look at what the Israelis do to They 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.880 target the perpetrators, the individuals that are the terrorists, the 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.240 people that are actually victimizing and killing people. They go 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:22.320 to great lengths to avoid tangential casualties they do, unfortunately 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.440 happen when these perpetrators hide behind innocent people. But in 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.680 this case, the guy is looking to take out as 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.960 many innocent people as possible. It's terrible. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:35.840 As an excellent point, it's an excellent point about horrific tragedy. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.720 And the loss of human life. Unfortunately, that is a 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:42.120 profound distinction that is oftentimes not made in the way 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.920 those issues are covered by the media. We're going to 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.720 continue to try to make more excellent points. In the 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.760 last thirty minutes of the show. He's Peter Schweizer on 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.960 Americ Eggers This Sean Handy Radio show'll be right back. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.640 Welcome back to the Sean Handy Radio Show. My name 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.280 is Eric Eggers. I'm joined by author Peter Schweitzer. We 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.200 co host a podcast called The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.040 We're talking about lots of different stories, the things that 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.040 are happening right now, and we're very excited right now 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.920 to be joined by US Senator Rand Paul, who just 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.680 came from i think, giving a speech on the Senate floor. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.000 Senator Paul, can you give us the latest in this 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.440 ongoing discussion over whether or not and how we should 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.040 continue to fund the United States government? 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.520 Well, you know, you know, I was proud of conservatives 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.000 yesterday stood up in the House and said that an 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.520 unlimited debt ceiling where you can spend as much as 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.520 you want with no dollar limit for two years. So 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.400 that's just not fiscally conservatives. So most of these guys 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.680 and men and women were in the Freedom Caucus, but 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.560 they stood up, they were fiscally conservative and said we 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.280 won't vote for that. So they voted down the unlimited 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.880 debt ceiling idea. But today there's still another vote going 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:46.680 on and it'll be coming over to the Senate soon 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.840 and it'll be a continuing resolution that means we will 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:51.880 continue to spend money at the same rate as we 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.560 have been all year. But that same rate has led 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.720 to a two trillion dollar deficit this last year. So 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.720 I think continuing spending at the same rate without reducing 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.600 spending it's a terrible idea. But it's worse than that. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.560 They added one hundred billion dollars that they will borrow 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:09.800 for disaster. They added another thirty billion they're going to 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:14.639 borrow for farmer subsidies. And then they also this week 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.360 in the Senate voted for an expansion of Social Security 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.520 by two hundred billion dollars, even though so Security is 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.680 on its way to bankruptcy and actually currently spends more 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.960 than it takes in. So it isn't a good week 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.199 to be for fiscal conservativesm Yes, conservatives are standing up 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.280 and fighting, but we're losing. The swamp is winning the 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.960 big government, Republicans are spending and borrow more money, and 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.800 the Democrats are happily going along with all of it. 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.879 Well, that's the thing, Senator for Paul that I've always 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.320 appreciated about you, which is what you say is what 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.400 you vote. And the problem is there are a lot 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.680 of people in the Republican Party who talk like they 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.880 are fiscal conservatives, but they don't actually end up doing that. 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.320 Is this going to get easier when we have a 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:03.040 Republican House and a Republican Senate and Donald Trump is 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.320 the presidency or are we going to have this continued 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.320 problem with Republicans failing to actually live up to what 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.240 they promised the American people they would do. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.240 You know, in many ways, we've met the enemy, and 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.440 it's to us. I mean it's within the Republican Party. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.359 The Democrats are of no value. They will not lie 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:21.960 to you. Though they don't care about the debt. They 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.480 believe in this modern monetary theory that you can just 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.800 print money at the Fed forever and buy whatever you want. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.800 Republicans go home to the Rotary and the Chamber of 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.920 Commerce and Lions Club, and they tell you how they 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.959 hate big government and they want to balance the budget, 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.040 and they vote for all the spendings. So it's about split. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.720 This week we had to vote on expanding soial Security, 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.359 but SOID Security this year lost forty billion. So you know, 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.560 all the payroll taxes we pay, and we pay a 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.240 ton of payroll taxes, we spent forty billion more giving 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.159 soci security benefits than we brought in in taxes. So 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.600 what we did is this bill. Not me, I voted 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.240 against it, but about half of the Republicans. I think 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.159 twenty four of us voted against No. Twenty five of 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.760 us actually voted against us. In twenty four voted for him. 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.280 But by expanding so security by two hundred billion, that 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.119 means the deficit yer this year, instead of being forty billion, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.960 will be sixty. So they've increased the social security and 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.720 deficit by fifty percent, and it's running out of money 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.600 and we'll be out of money by twenty thirty three. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.399 So it's a perpetual fight, and it really is people 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.200 need to identify, and in Republican states they need to say, 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.720 you know, is my senator, is my congressman conservative? Or 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.159 is he really part of this wall. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.239 You mentioned that it's not been a good week to 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.720 be a fiscal conservative, and I say this sort of 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.920 tongue in cheek, but sort of seriously, is it ever 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.760 a good week to be a fiscal conservative? I mean, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.720 Mitt Romney ran on this platform to you know, to 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.080