WEBVTT - Eleven Months Later 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.760 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woka F Daily. We 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:20.040 meet your girl, Danielle Moody. This week, woke f Daily 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:24.000 is looking at and reflecting on the year of hate. 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:27.520 This year, the shadow of Trumpism and all that it 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.240 represents had loomed large over America, and in my upcoming 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:40.040 conversation with Representative Stacy Plasket, we spoke with the congresswoman 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:46.320 roughly two weeks following the insurrection. I want you all 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:51.959 to think back to January sixth, which is coming up 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.120 frankly on its anniversary, and when woke f returns live, 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:01.480 it will be the anniversary week of the one six insurrection, 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:05.200 which of course Donald Trump right now is saying was 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.160 a red flag operation or a fake flag whatever the 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.880 fuck he's making up these days. But nonetheless, in the 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:18.640 conversation that we would have with Stacy Plasket following the insurrection, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:27.400 it's just amazing to me because honestly, I still can't 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.640 wrap my mind around the fact that we watched as 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:36.279 thousands of enraged, rabbit foaming at the mouth white people 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:43.120 descended on our Capitol building with Trump flags and Confederate flags, 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:50.240 wearing Trump hats and screaming and spewing and beating police officers, 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:55.400 whom you know they love, love to uplift right when 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.680 they're on quote unquote their side, meaning kneeling on the 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:03.480 necks of black people, or beating us or murdering us, 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.960 then they are for the police. But when the police 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:13.120 are in fact trying to stop a riotous insurrectionist, treasonous 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:18.079 ass mob from taking over our Capitol building, they had 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:23.919 no problem with using violence. Remember five people, five people 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:31.079 ended up dead that day. It's been eleven months since 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:36.919 the insurrection. It's been eleven months. And asked me how 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.240 many people have been arrested by the thousands that you 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:47.359 saw descend on the Capitol building. Well, according to insider 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.960 dot com, seven hundred and twenty seven people have been charged, 0:02:53.200 --> 0:03:00.200 only seven hundred and twenty seven. Eleven months later, after 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:06.359 one hundred and eighty seven minutes of uninterrupted violence of 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.600 please coming from inside of the Capitol Building. That we 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:15.680 now have learned through the release of former Chief of 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:22.480 Staff Mark Meadows text messages that Republicans from inside the 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:28.200 chamber Republicans on Fox News, his own fucking son was 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.920 trying to get hold of the President of the United 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.480 States on that faithful day as he was sitting, no doubt, 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:39.360 eating popcorn and popping bond bonds and just loving the 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:43.640 fact that his adoring fans, who he had told us 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.520 straight up that he could kill somebody in the middle 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.800 of Fifth Avenue and watch his poll numbers increase. He 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.520 told us who these people were, and before he told us, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:01.160 Hillary Clinton told us that this basket of deplorable people 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.160 would do anything and everything and believe anything and everything 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:14.600 because somehow this magician Donald Trump had hypnotized them with 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.200 the thing that we know is the most alluring for 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.960 white America, which is the return to white supremacy and 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:31.960 dominant rule. He waved that in their faces like stakes 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.960 in front of a starved crowd, and told them that 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.000 he was going to return them to their glory days. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.760 You know, the glory days of when white people would 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.400 walk down the street and black people had to bow 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.599 their heads and remove themselves from in front of them 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.599 where they could walk into stores, and we had to 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.080 address them as black people as miss and mister, while 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.320 they referred to us as boy and girl, if not 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.960 just the and word, that they could return to a 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.760 time when segregation was the law of the land and 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.800 they didn't have to feel bad or ikey about their 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:13.960 thoughts right, or the fact that they would cheer on 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.839 lynchings and beatings in the same way that the George 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:25.080 Floyd challenge right took social media by storm following Derek 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:30.880 Chauvin's disgusting act of murdering an unarmed black man in 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:39.719 cold blood in broad fucking daylight. These are Donald Trump's people, 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.839 and over the course of four years he had fed 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.320 them a bunch of fucking lies. He appealed to their 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:55.200 worst sense of self and allowed them right to free 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:59.480 themselves from the confines and the shackles of their hoods, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.360 where they could just march with their tiki torches and 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:09.159 their khaki pants down city streets, declaring that they were 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.400 going to take their country back, declaring that they were 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.720 not going to be overtaken by the Jews or their 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.360 you know lasers that Marjorie Taylor Green said they had 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:26.600 in space that they could fully embrace their anti Semitism, 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:35.279 their anti Islam, their anti everything that homophobia, transphobia, islamophobia, 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.840 misogyny could all be welcomed back in because how dare 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:47.159 the political correctness of the twenty first century hold them hostage. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:51.320 They wanted their liberty, and they were willing to use 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:57.120 fire extinguishers and battering rams and to concoct and build 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.440 a full fucking guillotine on the st up said the 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.240 Capitol Building, so that they could return to the days 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:10.240 that Donald Trump told them they could have back. Thousands 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:15.640 of people descended on Washington, DC that faithful day. Donald 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:20.680 Trump would tweet at them, tweet at the world, and 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.640 say that one six was going to be wild. They 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:30.320 were organizing in broad daylight, on Facebook, on TikTok, on 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.000 every social media apparatus, saying what they were going to 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.960 be doing. Did the FBI, the CIA, the Pentagon, did 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.640 they intervened? No? And why is that? What is the excuse? 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:47.040 We've yet to hear it eleven months later. Oh, we 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.520 didn't think it would be that bad. Oh we thought 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.440 that Donald Trump was going to use the trees and act. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.520 Oh we thought that we would get in trouble. No, No, 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:01.480 none of those things really are true. They just knew 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.600 that their whiteness would protect them. You see, policing was 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.080 never set up in a way that it was meant 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.840 to police white people. It was meant to protect white 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:17.120 people from everybody else them in their property. It's why 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:21.680 right now Kyle Rittenhouse is the most famous Republican, a 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:26.520 murtyrer that they are celebrating and fighting over to make 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:32.240 their new intern. Donald Trump, after one hundred and eighty 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:39.640 seven minutes of violence and bloodshed, would finally offer to 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:45.560 the American people a statement in which he said, we 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:52.680 love you. To the insurrectionists. Donald Trump never came out 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.160 with force to say we need the National Guard, we 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.040 need police. These people are doing things in my name 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.560 that I don't agree with. You never heard that out 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.120 of the mouth of Donald Trump or Rudy Giuliani or 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.880 any of the members of Fox News. No, only behind 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.360 closed doors and in tweets that they thought would never 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:19.960 be discovered, did they offer their truth their fear. This 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.400 is going to make us look bad. Laura Ingram said, 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:28.200 this isn't good for us, because once again they were 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:32.719 more concerned with their power and the perception thereof than 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.440 anything else than the actual harm that they were doing. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:47.200 It wouldn't be until June of twenty twenty one that, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:52.600 after a battle in Congress that barely barely passing the 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.599 House of Representatives, did we get at one six commission 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:05.480 six months after the insurrection, Kevin McCarthy would pull back 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:10.800 all of his Republicans and only two, only two would 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:16.120 decide that they were actually going to put country ahead 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:22.119 of party. That would be Liz Cheney and Adam Kinsinger. 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:28.559 You see, for the entire year, people have wanted to 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.400 hail Liz Cheney as some type of savior. Oh at 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.400 least she has sense, they would say, this is the 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:41.880 same woman who minds you voted over ninety percent of 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.040 the time with Donald Trump. The only thing that Liz 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:51.959 Cheney wouldn't go along with. She was totally fine withincarcerating 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:57.360 and locking in cages undocumented children. She was totally fine 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.800 with a rise in police brutality. She was totally fine 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.400 with the criminalization of immigration and people of color. She 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:11.200 was also fine, up until recently, with the harassment and 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:15.120 the persecution of lgbt people, one of which her sister 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:21.680 is her dad. Dark Vader would move quicker on the 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:28.480 issue of LGBTQ equality than Liz Cheney did. But it 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:32.600 doesn't take much in these American streets these days to 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.679 be hailed as a hero. All you have to do 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:40.680 is state the fucking obvious. Donald Trump did not win 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.520 the election in twenty twenties. A matter of fact, every 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.440 single document that has been uncovered by the one six 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:53.800 Commission has shown the lengths at which all of the 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:59.120 people around Donald Trump went to to ensure a second term, 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:05.480 or maybe a never ending term like his Powell putin. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:14.760 It's been eleven months, friends, and sadly, the FBI tells 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:19.480 us that they are still quote working on identifying all 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.960 of those people who descended on our Capitol building, defecated 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:28.960 in its whole ways, stole property, threatened to hang the 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.920 vice president of the United States, and yet we're able 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.280 to go back home. Yet recent reports from the New 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:43.680 York Times tells us about the FBI infiltrating the protests 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:51.760 in Oregon and other places back in twenty twenty because 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:55.920 you know, those pesky black and brown people yelling about, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.600 you know, not being murdered in the streets and treated 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:04.720 like second class citizens and dogs. They're so pesky and 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:10.440 they caused so much trouble. Not at all the alerts 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.280 and the reports that told you for a decade that 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.280 white supremacy was rising in this country and that the 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.720 threat that we needed to be paying attention to wasn't isis, 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:29.040 But the Boogoaloo Boys, the oath keepers and others. Where 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.920 was the infiltration into the insurrectionists that were organizing out 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:39.720 in broad daylight? But you wouldn't infiltrate your own because sadly, 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:47.520 there were too many active military that participated in the insurrection. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.600 There were too many active or former police officers that 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.280 took out their trunk flags and stormed the capital on 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:05.200 that day. In this upcoming conversation with Congresswoman Stacy Plasket, 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:12.280 who also was an active voice and participating in the 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:19.320 impeachment the second impeachment of the disgrace president, former President 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:24.480 Donald Trump. In this episode, we will talk to her 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:30.640 and you will be reminded of where we were, how 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:35.160 we were feeling as a nation on one six twenty one, 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:39.480 how shaken to the core were we and had no 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:44.120 idea what the year ahead would look like, but we 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.920 were certain that it couldn't be fucking good if this 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:52.960 is how we were starting. Coming up next, my conversation 0:14:53.520 --> 0:15:00.720 with the brilliant Congresswoman Stacy Plasket. It is so wonderful 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:06.720 to have you back on wik af again, a Congresswoman Plaskic. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.160 I am excited to talk to you because so much 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:15.200 has happened since since the last time you joined us. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:20.040 So first of all, how have you been, how have 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.960 you been since since our since our last time. I 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.920 know that you were telling me about the COVID rates 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:31.040 and the Virgin Islands and what has been happening and 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.760 whether or not folks have been able to get tested. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.560 And now we have a new vaccine, so I'd love 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.960 to know how things are, how things have been progressing 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.800 in the Virgin Islands right now. Well, thanks for asking 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:52.400 about that. We have a really dedicated team and unlike 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.440 I think other places around the country, Virgin Islanders are 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:01.400 not only resilient, but they understand disaster. And so when 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:06.960 there are directives that come from leadership, the governor stating 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:11.440 that the way that we saved ourselves is socially distance 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:16.320 and to wear a mask, people understand that. And particularly 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.040 for us, we have a culture that is very, very 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:23.400 careful of our elders and so the notion that we 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:28.400 might be getting them sick by not doing that thing 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:33.360 that is really very it's very heartwrenching to us. And 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:37.560 so we have been better, I think than other places 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.480 about doing that. Our issue was always with our young 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.800 people who don't want to follow the guidelines in the 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:50.800 same way. Along with visitors coming in, we're trying to 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.520 implement test taking for those who want to come as 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:58.120 a tourist destination. Because I know that the governor is 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.040 really pulled as well because he wants to keep our 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:06.720 economy going and so much of our GDP support and 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:12.880 our revenues come from tourism, and so being sensitive to that. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:17.120 Creating a safe place for people to come down while 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.159 at the same time doing that cognizant of a pandemic 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.080 has been a real challenge. I will say that one 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.880 of the things that we are grateful for is that 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:33.879 in Congress's legislation, the Virgin Islands has been included. So 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.520 we're really trying to get our students back to school 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:43.680 in a safe manner. We're trying to do distribution of 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.840 the vaccine and of testing we have. You know, people 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:53.040 are in the States have distribution and shipping issues. Well, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:58.199 shipping issues become even larger when you are off of 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:02.359 the mainland, and so they've been dealing with that as well. 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.560 You know, my concern is that when the Biden Harris 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:11.440 Camp administration comes on board, that there has to be 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:17.600 an address of lost revenues to locations, to states, governments, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.240 and to municipalities because they're going to need the support 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:27.280 to keep teachers and you know, local officials, police on 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.000 the street. And I know that's something that we are 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:35.200 holding our breaths as the quarters to move track along 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.840 that we will have a dip in those revenues. Yeah, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:43.560 you know, it's it's it's incredibly hard to watch as 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:48.159 states and different municipalities struggle, right because the idea is 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.200 that we want to keep capacity down. We don't want 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:53.359 to have as many travelers, we don't want to have 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:55.719 as many people eating in restaurants. And here in New 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.320 York City where I am, you know, indoor dining is 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.239 closed again as as the numbers continue to spike. And 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.280 so it's this fine line of being able to both 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:09.760 keep people safe, but then also safety understanding is at 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.280 economics as well. Right, So we cannot be truly safe 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.680 when we have communities that are economically vulnerable. And so 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.960 being able to understand both the push and the pull 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.640 of where we find ourselves in the midst of this pandemic. 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:27.760 You know, we we we are at a place right 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.440 now whereas you and I are speaking, we are at 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.040 four hundred thousand deaths of the coronavirus, just something that 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.600 is would have been unthinkable, right because when you look 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.159 at the countries that come behind us, we're almost double 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.280 the amount of deaths that they have had. And you 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.159 say to yourself, how, how you know, how could that be? 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.639 Can you remember when it was twenty thousand and we 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.000 were I passed twenty thousand, That's what I'm saying. And 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.720 this this was you know, we we were, we were 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.919 talking but a few months ago, and we hadn't reached, 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:05.439 you know, into the hundreds of thousands. And so the rapidness, 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.960 the rapid descent that we have seen in this country, UM, 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:14.320 I think it shows our moral deficit um to taking 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:19.399 care of one another. I want to talk about January 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:27.280 sixth and were you I mean, because you know what, 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:31.840 I can't. I can't see it. My anxiety has been 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.919 through the roof since. UM. I have been feeling incredibly 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.800 uneasy and I can't. And as as we continue to 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.440 see videos come out, as we continue to see reports 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.560 of your fellow your fellow members of Congress, Congresswoman Aana 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:48.840 Pressley talking about the fact that our panic button was 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.760 ripped out of her office that we are talking about 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:56.800 how vulnerable the black and people of color members were. 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.679 I want to know how you are feeling, how you 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.080 felt that day, and how you were feeling now as 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.919 this continues to as the investigations just get underway and 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:11.600 things begin to unfold. Yeah, I for the most part, 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:16.040 have been doing really well, and I've been doing a 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.640 lot of check ins of some of my colleagues. I 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.520 was not on the floor at the time. I just 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:26.360 always feel like there's some hand, the ancestors are always 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:30.000 watching out for me. I happened to be in my office, 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:36.360 was watching c SPAN and getting my jacket and getting 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.879 myself together to go on the floor, and just happened 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.600 to be turned around a couple of times and didn't 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:48.280 leave the office when I recognize on c SPAN that 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:52.440 something had gone awry. But particularly I have been reaching 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:56.480 out to my colleagues, my friends who were in the 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:02.080 gallery port because the members who were on the floor, 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:07.360 I know how real that trauma was, but they were 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:11.480 with the way much faster than the ones who were 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.760 in the gallery and kind of left there for a 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:19.400 while before the Capitol police could get to them. Because 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:24.639 the way of exit is not the same, and I 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.960 recognize that they're not doing as well as some of 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:33.639 the others. And you know, Danielle, we were talking earlier 0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:37.959 about my other role as a mother. Yeah, that's you know, 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.760 something that I've been doing is you know, because afterwards 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.200 I checked my staff. I even called particularly the younger 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.800 staff who weren't here. But I know that them seeing 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.040 something like that is going to affect how they operate, 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.240 and that those these young people who come to Washington 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.919 are so full of hope. I know they have so 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:03.400 much passion, and to see an assault like that on 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:06.720 our democracy and on people was something that I tried 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:10.360 to help them work through. You know, I had a 0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:15.960 moment yesterday. It was a hard time for me, but 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.840 I have to tell you I've really thrown myself into work, 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:23.600 and the work that I'm doing I think is so 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:30.400 incredibly important as an impeachment manager. And Jamie Raskin's words, 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:35.119 I saw him on cable news yesterday when he said 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:38.359 he lost his son in twenty twenty and he'll be 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.960 damned if he loses his country in twenty twenty one. 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.639 You know, I have had the good fortune of also 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:55.600 speaking with Congressman, speaking with Representative Raskin, and to think 0:23:55.640 --> 0:24:00.560 about how committed you know, you have to be to 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:06.560 this country, to the constitution, to this democracy, to be 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:10.959 able to push through the unspeakable trauma of losing a 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:16.240 child to now working so desperately not to lose a country. 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:20.200 Can you talk to us about what it is like 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:24.040 to be an impeachment manager, what you what has come 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:28.439 up for you as as as a representative, but also 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:32.879 as as you know, just a believer in democracy, a 0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:38.760 believer in institution. Right yeah, um, well, you know, um, 0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:42.800 my legal career began in the Bronx District Attorney's office, 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:47.080 which is kind of a trial by fireplace. You're given 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:51.399 a week of training and then you're sent assigned to 0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.800 a courtroom and giving a stack of cases and uh, 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:59.919 you know, people pride themselves there on being very fast paced, 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:04.240 night court, weekend, core, complaint room, the whole bit, And 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.080 so I kind of took this the same way of 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:11.120 just throwing myself into it. But one of maybe the 0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:15.000 things that as well comes as a Bronx district attorney 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:23.800 is being very i have to say, unemotional about criminal 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:27.400 trial and just getting to the facts and to justice. 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.960 And I've really tried to be this way in working 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.040 through how we are going to present this case is 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.639 not getting caught up in the emotion of what we 0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:43.199 all experience, but how do we prove the elements of 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:49.120 the crime place on January and leading up to January sixth, Right, 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:55.280 because January sixth was the fulfillment of a conspiracy or 0:25:55.440 --> 0:26:01.440 throw this government. Insurrection doesn't occur at the beginning of 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:05.080 an individual's time and office. It occurs at the end. 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:10.240 And this is classic to what our founding fathers anticipated 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:17.040 when they were drafting the Constitution and discussed impeachment while 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:21.480 an impeachment was going on in England, while they were 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:27.160 having the conversation about putting impeachment, because impeachment is two parts. One, 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.280 it is removing that individual from the clear and present 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:35.040 danger that they prevent they present, but it is also 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:40.160 preventing that individual or individuals from ever being able again 0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:44.800 to do that. It's qualification of the person from being 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:48.479 able to run for office, from receiving the trappings of 0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:54.280 what we give those individuals who were our former presidents. 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:59.359 That doesn't just include the tax player, social Security retirement 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:08.720 pay staff, and the others. It includes um you know, briefings, right, say, right? 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.240 Do we want this individual to continue to have access 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.440 to the leavers of power? Um, knowing what he will 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:22.399 do to retain power for himself. Um. Those are the 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.919 reasons that we are having in this drib. You know, 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:34.440 tell me what is different between the one article that 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.960 we are looking at right now, which is incitement and insurrection, correct, 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:45.440 versus what we were looking at, which in twenty nineteen, 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:51.480 which was obstruction of justice? Right? What are the what 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.080 are the what are the impeachment one point zero and 0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:58.480 now impeaching two point zero? Right? Two point zero is 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:04.680 always bigger, better. The differences is that we've all seen 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.800 the crime. M. The difference is that not only were 0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:14.040 we all witnesses, but that the jurors were actually victims 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.800 of the crime. That is going to be the difference 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.040 in how this is presented. And the issue is now 0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:26.560 for these senators, if they are able as victims and 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:35.920 continuing ongoing victims as they are threatened right by this 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:41.040 president and by those conspirators who are with them with him, 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.960 are they able to transcend that or to be protected 0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:48.320 from that, to be able to render a verdict? Let 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:53.120 me ask you this question too, So, Donald Trump has 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:58.160 what roughly forty eight hours left as president of the 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:04.760 United States. He is signaling that he is about to 0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:12.120 pardon roughly one hundred people, including himself, his family, his friends, 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:17.640 if he is convicted in the Senate, which we still 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:23.200 know as an uphill battle. Are these pardons potentially reversible? 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:28.720 Can they be stopped? Oh? That's that's a great scholarly 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:35.280 constitutional issue, which you know, the conviction will of course, uh, 0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:39.120 you know, just thinking logically happen after the pardons of 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:44.600 Dick and Plays. Probably not right. But the impeachment and 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:50.120 the conviction, as well as the disqualification does not are 0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:56.120 separate and apart from any pardons. And additionally, of course 0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:03.240 there's always state crimes for which he is to probably 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:08.120 have to deal with once leaving office, whether he is 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:15.280 impeached and convicted or not. Yeah, I you know, Congresswoman 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:22.640 say that his crimes in the past, you know. And 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.240 he can only pardon himself for that which he has 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:29.200 already done, not that for which he could potentially do 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:35.920 or any other individual. But this trial, this impeachment, for one, 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:40.320 for those in the House, the impeachment was a constitutional duty, 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:46.920 fulfillment of what many members, including those bold ten individuals 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.800 on the Republican side felt was a fulfillment of their 0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:54.120 constitutional duty. You know, pray for them as well, because 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.880 they as well are being threatened right now for having 0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:01.160 taken that position. This is the only time in history 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:08.719 when there has been such a bipartisan, resounding impeachment of 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:13.040 a president. Right and now what we are doing is 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.680 you hear this notion by many people of let's just 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:22.840 move on the rush to healing, let the healing begin. 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:28.120 You know, jam and Raskin uses this term. A president 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:33.800 does not get a senior skip day to act up 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.720 and do what he wants to do because it's the 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:40.960 last couple of weeks of his presidency. And these individuals 0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.479 who are purporting proposing this are saying that he's supposed 0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:49.360 to get skipped weeks as a president, and you know, 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:53.080