WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Let's Dance 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.360 Higain everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading the 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:11.680 Bengals Booth Podcast. The Let's Dance addition, as one of 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.280 the most eagerly anticipated seasons in Bengals history, gets under 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.640 way this Sunday with the one hundredth Battle of Ohio 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.320 between the Bengals and Cleveland Browns coming up. I'll talk 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.239 to the longest tenured player on the Bengals roster, Tyler Boyd, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.960 who enters his eighth season in Cincinnati. Speaking of long tenures, 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.559 Jeff Hobson has covered the Bengals for more than twenty 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.600 five years. 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Now let's get to this week's game. The 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.480 Bengals are not only one of the NFL's best teams, 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.400 they're one of the youngest. According to bookies dot Com, 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.960 the average age of the players on the bengals fifty 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.320 three man roster is twenty five years, nine months, and 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.760 nine days. Only two teams have a younger average Green 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.359 Bay and Tampa Bay, and the Bucks have the youngest 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.840 roster after the retirement of Tom Brady. The Jets with 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.760 Aaron Rodgers have the oldest average roster in the NFL, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.240 and Pittsburgh checks in at number six, with the oldest 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.440 of any team in the AFC North. Getting back to 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.440 the Bengals, Ted Karras is the only player on the 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.920 fifty three man roster who is thirty or older. He's 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.120 in his eighth NFL season, and so is Tyler Boyd, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.040 who has spent all of those seasons in Cincinnati. I 0:02:55.080 --> 0:03:00.320 talked to him this week. Tyler, this is the start 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.240 of year eight. How have you been able to maintain 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.480 such a high level of play for this long? 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:07.520 Uh? 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.720 You know, just coming in and being the same person 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:11.840 each and every day and just being consistent, you know. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.760 I think that's what this game is about. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:18.720 And availability, you know, is can account on me, you know, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.239 each and every day, each and every game. And I've 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:24.200 always been there and I always met that standard. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.880 We've heard from a lot of players during training camp 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:31.080 say that Zach Taylor's approach has been helpful to them, 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.320 not beating them up during the preseason games during camp. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.640 How helpful has that been for you? 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.360 It's huge, you know, because you keep us fresh. You know, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.880 it doesn't put wear and tear in our bodies. You know, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:45.600 it's not many days where we're coming in sore, banged up. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.680 You know, he's taking great care of us practicing and 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.880 just mentally as well. You know, it ain't mentally taxing 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.040 and meetings, and I mean, it's just overall. He correlated 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:57.600 it so good that I mean, it's it's a pleasure 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:57.920 for us. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.920 You're twenty eight, You're still a young man in my book, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.480 but you're a vat in NFL circles. Have you given 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.280 any thought to how long you'd like to do this? 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.160 I've been getting out a lot at this point. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.040 I'm just gonna keep going till I feel like I can't, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:11.680 you know, And like like you said, I still feel 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.280 fresh and young. I still feel like I'm on my 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.080 first deal. So I'm gonna try to go as long 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:16.560 as I can. 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.120 All right, let's take a look at the team. After 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.360 missing about five weeks of training camp with this calf injury, 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.719 Joe Burrow returned twelve days before the season opener. Did 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.080 he look like normal Joe Burrow or could you tell 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:30.200 a slight difference. 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.480 He still looked hisself, you know, his throwing mechanics looked well, 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:39.239 his hip, mobility, just everything that I've seen. I felt 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.560 that he was practically ready to go out there that play. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.240 If we had a game tomorrow, then he would be 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.960 ready to go. In my eyes, I talked to him 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.000 and see how he feels. Sometimes it may be still sore, 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.839 but at the end of the day, he knows what 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.240 he can do, and like I said, visualizing it, either 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.960 he's haiding it well or he's actually really good to go. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:00.800 So in my he's good to go. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.760 We're chatting to Tyler Boyd. Several weeks ago. I asked 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.320 t Higgins about the relationship between you, Jamar Chase and him. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.920 He said, quote, we're like brothers. Blood couldn't make us 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.080 any closer. We love each other like we've got the 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.560 same mama. It's not always like that between elite wide 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.479 receivers on the same team. Why do you three have 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:22.680 a relationship like that? 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.479 Yeah, I think cause it goes a long way. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.480 You know, at the end of the day, we're all 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.599 great receivers and we all know that and like you said, 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.279 it's hard for a great receiver group to stay connected, 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.240 you know, because everybody, every guy wants to be the guy, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:35.720 you know. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.960 But here we are still all the guys. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.080 You know, we get just as many plays as is 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.080 the other you know, some of us might get more targets, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.279 hair and there, you know, and I just feel we 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.080 all feel comfortable with what we bring and what we 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.599 do to this team. And uh, we're just genuine people, 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.520 you know that care for one another because we want 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.680 to win. You know, if somebody's having a good game, 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.599 we want to cheer that guy up, and then it 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.200 could be holding different week where. 0:05:59.000 --> 0:05:59.800 It's another guy up. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.479 You guys that we don't get frustrated with numbers and 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.520 how games go, because uh, it's go always coming back around, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.239 you know, next the next go around, or Zach gonna 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.760 put us in position the next go around to uh 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.760 have that game, you know. So at the end of 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.000 the day, we spend a lot of our time together 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.080 oppisode as well, and that's probably uh the brotherhood what 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:19.560 we get. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:22.599 So his expression was, we're like brothers. Are you the 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.520 older brother? Is that your relationship with those guys? 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.240 Yeah, just because I'm the oldest, you know. But I 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.680 don't treat them guys like the younger brother, you know. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.240 I just look at it like we're all one. We're 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:32.919 one unit. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.279 Uh. We we we treat each other. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:39.640 The same with respect, and we're loyal and we we 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.719 protect one another. We got each other's back, and I 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:46.640 think that's what drives us to keep resetting the standard 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.600 on being the best each year. So just being well connected, 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.119 uh is just gonna uh make all of us better. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.159 On the topic of great Bengals wide receivers, it's already 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.520 been announced that the ruler of the jump for the 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.800 home opener is going to be Aj Green. What did 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.000 AJ do for you early in your career? 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.400 He was basically the guy that I am now and 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.400 for everybody else now, you know, he was the guy 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.720 that I can come in and lean on and talk 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.040 to and get a vice, you know, because he I mean, 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.120 he was the best at the position of the time, 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.160 and that would really that's that's the position you want 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.440 to come in as a young receiver to. You could 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.120 actually see him do it, and AJ wasn't as vocal 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.800 as he was showing it. And that's probably the difference 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:34.560 between how other people go about it, but for him 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.280 to show it and see how it's done, and me 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:37.920 going being able to go up to him and pick 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.520 his brain and ask him how to run a certain 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.840 route and certain leverage and things like that. I mean, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.240 at the end of the day, he I mean, he 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.720 was the big brother for me, So I kind of 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.840 embraced that role and kind of paved the way for 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.800 me to share with these other guys. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:54.480 Were you excited to hear that he was going to 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:55.440 be the ruler of the jungle? 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:56.080 Yes? 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.800 I actually was, you know, because I mean, he's a 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.240 great due. He's probably one of the greatest. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.280 Dudes I ever met. You know, he's he's. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.119 Super super upfront man. He doesn't he doesn't party, doesn't 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.280 go out. He's a he's a real stand up man. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:10.440 Yeah. 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.040 Man, he just does everything right. 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:12.320 Man. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.200 I never he never got gets in trouble. We never 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.040 do stupid stuff. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.720 You know, he's the perfect exam example of being a 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.080 football player and a man. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.560 You open the season in Cleveland. The Bengals have lost 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.960 their last five road games. There, does that stick under 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.360 your crow going into this game? 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:28.280 Yeah? 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.560 We all know that, you know, and but each and 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.120 every game we don't kind of think of that. We 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:33.720 look at it as we're gonna go up there and 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.600 win each and every game. So it is a battle 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.719 for us because that's been the case going up there 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.440 and leaving and losing. But we gotta rewrite it now, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:45.640 I'll guesswitch it up for. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.240 The passing game to thrive. The offensive line's got a 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:52.080 block Miles Garrett and Zadarius Smith and Dalvin Tomlinson, et cetera. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.600 Is that the bottom line on Sunday. 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.360 It's a huge part, you know, But like, like again, 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.400 it's a football game. Everybody got to play their part 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.679 to win, you know, from us being able to make 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.120 plays against their dbs, you know, our running backs be 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.760 able to pick up blitzers and our running backs being 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.760 able to run the ball on them, and just I 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.360 think as long as we just stay locked in and 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.880 I'll execute those guys, you know, and stay polished, and 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:16.439 the game will always grow away. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.880 A couple more questions for Tyler Boyd. You've got your catchphrase, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.360 big levels and the gesture that goes with it. Maybe 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.640 I should know this, but I don't. Where'd that come from? 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:29.680 It kind of kind of been a part of me 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.120 since high school actually, and then going into college because 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.760 it had came out of a song and I can't 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.320 really put my my mind doing I forget. It's a 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.280 rap song and it will always stay level with and 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.400 at that point I will go with it because it 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:45.920 made sense. When you go out in the field, you 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:50.520 dominate and you look like you're disuperior and you're out 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.120 there killing them, and so it's levels to this. So 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.120 you got to step up your crabs, step up your 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.240 work to compete with me, you know, and try to 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.640 stop me. So, uh, that's I kind of reference to. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.920 It's unique, it fits you perfectly. Final question, I think 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.400 the Comeback Player of the Year award has already been 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:12.000 decided because your friend Tamar Hamlin made the Bills fifty 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.320 three man roster. How do you feel about that? 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:15.440 Oh? 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.080 Man, I'm I'm happy for him, you know, especially from 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.520 what he overcame and that was that was that was 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:22.360 that was a big time man. 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:23.480 That was a sad moment. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.600 And it's because I know he's a great, great person, 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.040 you know, and by him recovering and beating it and 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:34.240 beating it and oways being against him, he's uh been 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.480 a warrior to them times, you know, and even just 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.440 coming up. You know, he's still competing and fighting for 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.360 spots and having to deal with things like that. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:44.160 Personally, it was crazy. But he has a great support. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:47.040 System and I'm a I'm a part of that, and uh, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.600 he's a great player as well. He's even an even 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.720 better person. So's it'll be well deserving. 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.679 Best of luck on big levels in twenty twenty three. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:56.360 Hope you get a ring. 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:57.720 Indeed, appreciate you brother. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.679 The That Goes Booth podcast is brought to you by 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.400 Kettering Health, the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. With 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.840 more than one hundred and twenty care facilities and fifteen 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.280 hundred care providers. Kettering Health is committed to guiding you 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.760 to your best health. Visit ketteringhealth dot org to learn more. 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.200 The big question for the Bengals going into Sunday's opener 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.520 in Cleveland is obviously the status of Joe Burrow. He 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.880 was listed as a full participant at practice on Wednesday 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.800 and told reporters that barring a setback on Thursday or Friday, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.480 he expects to be good to go on Sunday. As 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.000 for his contract extension, who knows it could be finished 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.559 by the time you listen to this podcast, but Joe 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.120 says he is not worried about it. 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:46.880 You know, you definitely realize that it's a business. But 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.319 you know, at the end of the day, we're playing 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:55.240 football professionally, and you know, I'm with great people, some 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.480 of my best friends in there. Like I said, that's 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.160 icing on the cake. It'll come when it comes. But 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.160 I'm folks on being the Browns right now. Yeah, this 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.640 is where I want to be. This is where I 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.040 want to be my whole career. We're working towards making 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:11.839 that happen. You know, you've seen what the front office 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.200 has done and what Zach has done in their time here, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.880 and you know, I'm a small part of that, and 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.480 you know, I'm excited to be a part of that. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.080 And we have great people in the locker room that 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.800 grind every day that you know, are excited to go 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.000 and showcase their talents and excited to do it. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.400 In the city of. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.560 Cincinnati, you know, we have the best fans and so 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:30.880 this is this is where I want to be. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.920 Now, time to preview the upcoming season with Bengals dot 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:41.040 Com editor Jeff Butch Hobson. Which how many years have 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.920 you been on the Bengals beat, And is this the 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.720 best roster that you've seen going into a season. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.240 Yeah, I mean I've been with the team for twenty 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.280 This is my twenty fourth opener, and I would say 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:55.199 it is probably my pretty close to my thirtieth opener 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.400 with the Bengals, And yeah, I mean it's if it's 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.240 not the best team, it's certainly the most anticipated team. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.320 But certainly it's the most accomplished team, you know. I 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.240 mean they're coming off No Bengals teams ever won two 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.079 straight division titles, no Bengals team's ever gone to two 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.160 straight AFC Championship games, and they have the core back. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.280 So I mean, I would just, just you know, pure 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:24.880 pure reason would say this is the best. And of course, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.440 you know, of course it's not a reasonable league. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.120 But yeah, we have no idea what injuries will happen 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.840 for the Bengals or for anybody else. But I don't 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.120 see a glaring weakness. People talk about the loss of 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.760 Bates and Bell. They're very, very good players, but I 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.760 think Hill and Scott are maybe not as talented, but 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:52.880 talented in different ways. Yes, so I jp Ryan's loss significant, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.920 but third down back is not the most important role 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.200 on an NFL roster. Like I said, I don't see 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:00.000 a glaring weakness. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.760 No, I mean I agree. I mean I I saw something. 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.320 Somebody had them as the most vulnerable division winner, and 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.000 I just I really don't. I really kind of I didn't. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:16.360 I didn't understand that because okay, they lost both safeties, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.640 but that they haven't lost anybody on the edge. The 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.800 game's played in one on the edge, you know. I mean, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.720 obviously safeties are important, but I mean they've got all 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.200 their playmakers back, you know, which is is the stunning 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:29.880 thing to me and I and I and I think 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.080 you made the point on a you know, on a 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.440 who day conversation, is there is there really there's stunning 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.760 continuity in coaching, which I think is just as important 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.800 as having a Pro Bowl or at some position. You know. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.200 I mean I think that you can't you just can't. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.240 You can't put a price on that, the continuity of it. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.240 That's why I think the safety thing is a bit 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:56.080 overblown because it's the same you know, it's the same system, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.360 and it's and it's the guys who around the safeties, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:04.000 the two lines, back the three corners and Anna Rumo 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.760 calling the shots. They've all been through the thing. So 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.120 I think, you know, I think really that the coaching 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.520 staff thing is underrated. It shouldn't be. I think you've 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.840 got to consider it as a you know, as a 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.160 Pro Bowl player, it's huge. 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.280 I made the analogy that it's like starting from the 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.560 fifty yard line in a one hundred yard dash because 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.800 you don't have to start from square one. It's not 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.760 all right, this is my system. These are the words 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.280 I use. And all of that time I don't want 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.880 to say wasted, but all that time spent getting up 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.920 to speed in somebody else's system is a nonentity for 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.160 all of the Bengals veterans. And I think that's really 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.480 important on defense because we make a big deal and 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.640 part of it's true about the loss of Bates and 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.000 Bell and the continuity and the communication. But there's no 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.760 rule that says the safeties are the guys that have 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.440 to be quote unquote the quarterbacks of the defense that 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.800 can come from other spots, and early this season it will. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:01.960 And to me, this is one of the reasons the 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.360 first two games why I think they have an edge 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.600 in the first two games Cleveland, they're really high in 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:09.920 their defense, but it's the first tear on the Jim Schwartz, 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.360 you know. So it's the first it's their first game, 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.800 you know, in that system. And granted they're talented and 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.080 Jim Schwartz is a hell of the coach, but this 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.600 is their first time together in an actual game. Edge Bengals. 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.800 You know, the next week, Lamia Jackson is a great player, 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.880 but this is the first time he is not in 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:32.160 in in uh, the offense of right in the offensive 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.720 Greg Roman, he's you know in Edge Bengals, all right, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.920 because you know edge edge because on on on Sunday, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.120 the offense has been together for four years going against 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.680 the newly coordinated defense, and then you flip it. Uh, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:52.280 the next week, you've got you know, Louanna Rumo in 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.440 five years in the same scheme going against the new 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.640 offensive Coten in Baltimore. I mean, I think that's a 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.400 to me. You've got to make those matchups count against 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.560 first year coaching staffs, and and you got to make 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.359 that you know, we say, we sit back and we say, oh, 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.040 it's great having coach a continuity, but these are two 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:14.160 weeks where you hopefully, hopefully that you see. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.919 That Joe Burrow basically missed five weeks with his calf strain, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.119 which gives him about a week and a half to 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.439 get ready for the opener in Cleveland. Assuming that he plays, 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.640 and I'm assuming that he does, do you expect vintage Burrow? 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:32.879 Slightly limited Burrow? What does Joe Burrow look like in Cleveland? 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:34.840 Assuming he plays a week from Sunday? 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.520 I think you get that Joe Burrow, who's good enough. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.119 I don't know. I don't think he's going to be 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.960 vintage Borrow. I don't think he can ask that of 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.760 a guy that sat out all this time. But I 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.439 also don't think he's going to be throwing it just 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.480 a bit outside either, you know. I think he's going 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.480 to be uh now, we don't I don't know. We well, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.600 we're out out there practice. Can he run around Miles Garrett? 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.080 Can he run around Zadarius Smith? You know? Will he 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.600 go down if he can't? You know? Or will he 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.720 try to make a play? And you know, so these 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.760 things I do not know, you know, And but hopefully 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.720 that would go into the decision making, you know. So 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.399 I think if they put him out there, I'm gonna 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.800 guess he can run around Garrett, you know, although he 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.520 hasn't yet. I guess, right, how many sacks does Garrett 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:30.639 h Hey against the Mangles nine games? Yeah right, so 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.159 bad analogy. But you know, but the other guy is 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:36.359 good too. You know, Zadarius Smith is a is a 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.840 is a hell of an edge and Schwartz is using 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.480 You know, they're they're they're beating their chests up in Cleveland. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.920 They rotating seven defensive linemen, four tackles, three edge guys 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:45.880 and all fire it up. 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:47.840 So you know. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.520 They're there. There's there's certainly no pushovers, and Joe is 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.520 gonna have to be as you know, he's going to 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.000 have to be able to do it athletically. If they 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.440 put him out there, I assumed he can do it athletically, 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.040 and at that point I say he's good enough to win. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.720 I agree. I think of it more like two years 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.639 ago than last year. So coming off the knee injury, 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.080 up until the Denver Road game, Joe, by his own admission, 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.400 wasn't one hundred percent confident in his ability to run. 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.520 He would move as needed, he didn't take off and run, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.119 and then late in the year on the Super Bowl run, 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.920 he did. I don't think it's as drastic now as 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.800 it was then coming off tearing basically every ligament in 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.840 his knee. But I do think maybe early this year 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:32.880 he runs a little less. 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.280 And I think he'll be And people have talked about this, 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.520 you know, there's a hell of a difference between cap stream, 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.280 which is has challenges in itself, and a surgery, you 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.520 know what I mean. So I'm just not sure, you know, 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.000 physically that he was really in that great shape when 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:50.760