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Speaker 1: with William, what are your thoughts on our Briles getting

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Speaker 1: another shot at college football? Also, what are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Eric bi enemy resigning with the Chiefs. I figured

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Speaker 1: they'd go with Naggie our Browles. I think his son

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Speaker 1: is really good, the o C at at Arkansas. I

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Speaker 1: think he's worked for Lane too at f i U.

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Speaker 1: I had always heard that our Browns was a scumbag

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Speaker 1: then had nothing to do with the This was separate

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Speaker 1: I'll bet I'm not educated on. I didn't really follow

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Speaker 1: that story. Uh, he clearly got kind of booted out

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Speaker 1: mean I remember, I just saw the headline where did

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Speaker 1: Art Briles sign with? Like Grambling? Who even signed him?

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Speaker 1: Our Briles? Uh? George Grambling? Stay? Yeah, so you know

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Speaker 1: it took a pretty small school to give him a shot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't really have any thoughts on that. Uh, he's

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Speaker 1: good offensive coordinator. And anytime you're a good offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just get anytime you're good at anything,

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Speaker 1: you get more shots than you probably should. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not a big Art Briles guy, Eric b enemy. I honestly,

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Speaker 1: and I've said it over and over, I didn't have

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Speaker 1: but he's back. Try to watch Ozark and yellow Stone.

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Speaker 1: Watched them both also with the hiring of Flores, does

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Speaker 1: the move? Does this move the needle at all for

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Speaker 1: Pitt going after Watson? And would trading for him before

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Speaker 1: he's clear takeaway less than waiting for him see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's weird about the Watson and Flora's story

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Speaker 1: But if part of it was Deshaun Watson wanted to

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Speaker 1: if he wanted to play for Brian Flores. Well, when

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Speaker 1: you want to play for Mike Tomlin too. Now would

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Speaker 1: Two questions from Archie not Archie Manning. I wish it

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Speaker 1: to come on the show, what is mac jones actual ceiling?

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Speaker 1: And canna be better this offseason too? Is there a

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Speaker 1: chance the NFL expands to Mexico in the near future?

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Speaker 1: Big fan base and also it's close to most NFL markets.

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Speaker 1: some similarities. Big Fan, you should watch Hope Sick. It's

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Speaker 1: about the opioid issue in America. It's on Disney Plus.

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Speaker 1: School were or even choose. It's like CPK's menu. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen those ark, I'd start there. Pam

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're thirty five and older. Pam Anderson

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Pam and Tim. I'm gonna write that down.

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Speaker 1: trade talks and negotiations go between teams. I'm sure many

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Speaker 1: fans have a picture of fantasy football trading with a

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Speaker 1: the last thing you said happens all the time. Anytime

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Speaker 1: They're trying to let everyone know what the offer is. Now.

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Speaker 1: I've never negotiated a trade, but actually, since I've been

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Speaker 1: how it goes down. A lot of stuff that's gonna

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Speaker 1: there are if you're a general manager, you're gonna meet

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Speaker 1: it's a relationship business. It's not if you buy a house,

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