WEBVTT - How The Hum Works 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome to you Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:12.640 Works dot com. Hey, I'm welcome to the podcast. I'm 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.360 Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant. And I would 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.800 say it's stuff you should know, but it's not because 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:21.040 I haven't said Jerry, and now I did, So this 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:31.000 is stuffer. Yes, are people going crazy yet? I don't know. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.280 There's probably some people who started going crazy in the 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:38.280 moment they hit play. Yeah, that's Chuck's version of the hum. Yeah, 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.320 capital T, capital H. Yeah. So the home you just 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:46.599 did it makes sense. It's a hum. But apparently, like 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.400 if you'd listened, I don't. I wonder if you can 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.199 hear the same thing I'm hearing because you're hearing it 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:55.279 in your head. But there's like a gravelly quality to it, 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.680 the vocal fry. Okay, if you want to call it that, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.080 I say gravel, but it's not. It wasn't constant. The 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.120 gravelly thing gave it texture and it was kind of 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.679 broken up a little bit. That is more akin to 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.600 the hum than the unbroken part that was going throughout. Yeah. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.120 So apparently, while this is called the hum, and we 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.600 should eventually explain what we're talking about, it's not the 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.240 classical definition of a hum that people here, right, It's 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.280 not it's it's it's like a diesel truck idling engine 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.680 idling is with a classic description of it. Yeah, the um. 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.560 That term vocal fry is one of those you ever 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:34.720 hear or learn of a new expression or a thing 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.440 and they've never heard of and then you see it 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.679 everywhere that is called the bottom mine huff phenomenon. And 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.160 that's happening to me with vocal fry. Where did you 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.319 hear that? I can't remember where I initially heard it, 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.240 But it's a thing now that they say um, like 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.000 Kim Kardashian is who they always blame. It's a vocal 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.600 affectation that's supposedly young women are using now where they 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:00.560 go into a that lower tone um, that grably tone 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.800 on certain like the ends of sentences. You I know you. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.720 I heard that too, and it supposedly keeps them from 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.280 being promoted at work or something. Yeah. Yeah, And it's 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.079 the female equivalent of the guys who speak up yeah, 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.600 or all the valley girl thing, which is up speak, 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:20.160 like the valley girls talking like that. But now it's um. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.880 You know, he was a nice guy. But I really 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.079 wasn't sure what his motivation was. Oh, okay, yeah, that's 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.359 a great interesting that's because it was dead on. Yeah, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.920 I totally got that you had pigtails just now. Yeah. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.520 I was talking Emily about it the other day. She 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.480 was like, do I do that? It's like, now, you 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.920 don't do that? No, you don't. I just did that, 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.480 didn't I a little bit? But you you were doing 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.720 a different voice, So it makes sense. Yeah, anyway, I 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.919 can't escape it now. It's like every other day since 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.000 i've heard it, I've seen something about vocal frying. And 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.000 if you notice people with vocal frymore all the time, Okay, yeah, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.919 it's annoying. Like what you're describing now has really nothing 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.800 to do with the hump, but it actually does have 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:02.720 a lot in common with the hum in that kind 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:07.000 of People who hear the hum um tended to be 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.800 able to focus in on it more and more easily 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.000 the more that they're exposed to it, which is the 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.160 opposite of what should happen to a noise that really 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.799 is inconsequential in the environment. That's right. So what we're 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.880 talking about here, Chuck, is the hum with a capital H. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.560 That's right, what what is it? Well, it is um. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:32.400 It is a sound, a mysterious sound that is heard 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.560 in places around the world by about two per cent 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:41.680 of the local population. Um. It is a low frequent 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.080 and we're going to get into the frequencies and all that, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.760 but let's just call it a low frequency rumbling right now. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.600 It's a drone. It's a vibration described sometimes as it 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:56.320 sounds like it's coming from nowhere or inside my own head. Um. 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.600 And it is. There are places all around the world where, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.720 like I said, a very small population of people experience 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.480 this hum. And depending on where you are, they will 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:09.840 name it that home like the Auckland hume, the wings 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.960 are hum, the Bristol hume. Yeah, the Talos hum and um. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.960 It's been described, you know, going back to the eighteen hundreds. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.800 People have talked about it in literature, but really in 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:25.240 the nineteen fifties, sixties and seventies in the modern world 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.760 is when people have started describing hearing this thing that 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.359 drives them batty basically, and one of the ways that 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.160 it drives them batties. They'll say do you hear that? 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.320 And everyone else in the room will say no. The 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.320 people's yeah, and they'll be like, how do you what 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.160 do you mean you don't hear that, and everybody else 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.799 in the room goes, okay, right, maybe you're a little wacky. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.160 It is generally at night. It's worse at night, for sure, 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.400 and generally in more rural areas. Um, which makes sense 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.040 because it's not as much noise pollution, I think. Yeah. Um. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.719 It also is tends to be worse indoors, so at night, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.159 which is a little weird. Indoors means that you don't 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.080 get much sleep because this is something that you can't 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.559 not focus on. People who suffer from the hume tend 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:17.520 to say that it dominates the soundscape. It's not something 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.360 they can just tune out. It's not something that they're 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.760 getting used to. And again, the more the more they're 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.080 exposed to it, the easier they say it is to 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.760 tune into it, and I guess become cognizant of it 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.560 yet again, so imagine about it. Yeah, and imagine being 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.680 plagued by a sound that does this to you and 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.800 that everyone else says is not real because they don't 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.560 hear it. Yeah, and it it's been I mean, we'll 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.600 get into the reasons that it maybe or may not 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:50.159 be happening, but it's been uh pass off as mass 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:55.920 hysteria UM or mass dellusion UM from everything from that 0:05:55.960 --> 0:06:02.080 to like government conspiracy to uh legitimate legitimate noise, whether 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.640 or not it's acoustic or electromagnetic. And that's part of 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.839 the problem is is there one hum? There are lots 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.960 of harms. Is there no harm? You know, your your 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.800 skeptics will say there is no harm. It's tenatus or 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.760 it's something like that UM or some other inner ear 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:26.600 noise like odo acoustic noise UM. So who knows, but 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.279 that's there. There are two ways that the hum. Okay, 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.839 so again, let's let's restate this and let's put ourselves 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:35.719 in the position of the outsider, because I don't experience them. 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.599 So I am anced. I don't either knock on wood 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.279 because the more I researched it some more I'm like, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.080 oh God, I hope I never do well. We we 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.400 left out one um, one quality of it that that 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.240 is common around the world. And when we say around 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:53.080 the world, it tends to be curiously concentrated in the 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.880 West um and in the euro I didn't notice that 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.719 euro ancestry West. Yeah, I didn't really see anything about 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.599 any countries in the East. If you look at UM, 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.719 if you look at there is a guy who runs 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.520 a m Glenn McPherson. Yes, Glenn McPherson runs something called 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.120 the World HUM Map and Database. And we ran into 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.119 Glen mic Ferson. Before we get too far, we should 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.200 give a huge shout out to Jared Keller over at 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.760 Mike who wrote this amazing article called a mysterious sound 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.040 is driving people insane and nobody knows what's causing it. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.280 Totally worth reading UM. And he talks about a guy 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.600 named Glenn McPherson who's a professor in UH British Columbia, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.400 and he set up a website called the World HUM 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.640 Map and Database. And so anybody who hears the HUM 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.200 can go and fill out a questionnaire and then it 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.560 takes that data and puts a dot on the map, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.800 and you can hover over the dot and get the data. Right. 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.520 If you look at it, it's just the United States, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:56.960 Great Britain, your Western Europe, Canada, South Africa. It's pretty 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:02.640 it's it's unusual that there's nothing in Africa except South Africa. UM. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:07.480 And it's just in these European ancestry Western countries. Right. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.880 On the one hand, you could say, well, that's because 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:16.160 this is an English language database, thanks, and so of 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.640 course somebody whose native languages like Swahili isn't gonna go 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.360 onto this. I have no idea what I'm typing here, 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.720 but yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's one explanation. There are 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.640 other explanations too, and now we arrive at one of them. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.160 We're going back on the outside because you don't hear 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.160 the hump. I don't hear the hump. And let's say 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.680 that we're your nose and throat guys, and somebody comes 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.920 to us and says, I'm going crazy, like I'm seriously 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.760 contemplating suicide because this hum is keeping me up at night. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.320 I haven't slept at weeks. I'm irritable, I have headaches, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.079 nose bleeds, I'm nauseated all the time. These are all 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.959 common symptoms of HUM sufferers. You're you're gonna think one 0:08:54.000 --> 0:09:00.839 of two things as a doctor a physician. One is tonitus, yeah, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.200 and then the other one is you're crazy that you're 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.760 you're driving yourself crazy. Um. Both of them can kind 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.920 of be explained away, and they are explained away by 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.840 this guy named David Demming, and he is a geoscientist 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.960 from University of Oklahoma, and he wrote what is probably 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.960 the definitive study on the harm so far back in 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:27.160 two thousand four. That's right, So Demming apparently if you 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:31.120 look at his research, there is another theory. Uh. And 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.120 this is where the US government comes into play, because 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.600 there's a couple of UM. There's a couple of theories 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.679 revolving around the US military and whether or not they 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:45.960 are causing this UM. One is with their High Frequency 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.360 Active Auroral Research Program h a a ARP in Alaska 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.920 and they transmit RF signals into the Hono sphere. And 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.480 very well, we should we go ahead and start talking 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:04.120 about the frequency ranges VLF and e l F. VLF 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.520 is very low frequency and those are waves at point 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:12.280 one hurts and the other one is e l F. Right, 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.720 is there extremely low frequencies and they're in the range 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.439 of UM the same amount of hurts, but their wavelength 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.040 is up to like a hundred thousand meters. Right, that's 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:27.280 an extremely long wavelength. That's right. And UM people who think, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.240 you know, they call them HUM investigators, Uh, they believe 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:37.600 pretty much that it is VLF and e L f tones, UM, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.720 that are driving these people crazy, and those tones can 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:45.400 drive you crazy. They do have adverse effects on the body. Um. 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.240 You know you you probably heard it about a lot 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.920 when it comes to like cell phone radiation that kind 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.280 of thing. Yeah. But UM, whether or not E l 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.839 F and VLF is or are the hum is what's 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.760 a matter of much debate. It is matter of debate 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.960 because and it's also kind of a matter of faith 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.559 because what you're talking about there with UM E l 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:12.360 F and vlf frequencies is uh tones. Those are radio 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:16.280 waves and radio is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, right, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.720 So it has been shown at very very high frequencies, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:27.040 humans can detect electro magnetics sound. We take it as sound, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.960 which is weird because it's not supposed to happen like that, 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.160 but that's how we experience it. It's not like at 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.559 a high frequency we suddenly see it. We hear it. 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:40.080 And if you are familiar with the UM comment six 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.960 that the European Space Agency recently landed on, which is crazy, 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:51.240 that comment was found to emit a an electromagnetic clicking sound, 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:56.320 which is how we experience electromagnets or electromagnetic sound at 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.840 a certain frequency, and so because it's a clicking sound, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.280 it's not a hum at all. Some people are saying, well, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.640 that doesn't make any sense. This is a hum. It 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.199 doesn't if we can hear it, it's it's it doesn't 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.400 sound like an idoling diesel engine. It sounds like a 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.920 clicking sound or something like that. And then what's more, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.199 what this guy is saying is that if it's a 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.839 very low frequency or extremely low frequency, that's the opposite 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.640 of how we hear electromagnetic radiation. We heard a very 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.559 high frequency, not a very low frequency. So which one 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.120 is it. So, yes, it's still a huge matter of 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.679 debate even as to whether the hum. First of all, 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.440 if it does exist, if it's a single source, single source, 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.120 and then um, if it is a single source or 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.679 any kind of source, is it electromagnetic or is it acoustic? 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.520 And we'll unpack the difference between those things right after this. 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.280 So as whether or not the hum exist. The Canadian 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.240 government actually part of the problem is it's hard to 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.120 get research done on this because very small number of 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.960 people experience it, and a lot of them are called crackpots. Yeah, 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.480 so it's tough to get funding for research. But Luckily, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.400 there's a country called Canada that will fund things like this, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.680 and uh Dr Colin novak Um spent a year listening 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.640 to the Windsor Home in Ontario, and what they found 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.199 was the hum is real. And they traced the source 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.720 in that case too um on the Michigan side of 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.720 the Detroit River. UM and basically a steel plant on 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.480 Zug Island. Then that sounds like an industrial plant, ily does, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.720 and it supposedly generates a lot of VLF waves UM 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:49.360 when they're operating. So in this instance, at least the 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.160 HUM was a real thing, and they found out it 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.040 was a tone created from basically an industrial plant, right, 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:59.960 So they apparently took steps to cut down on whatever 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.880 energy it was emitting. Yeah, they turned off the HUM 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.120 machine right exactly, and all of a sudden, um. Some 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.400 people said, hey, that worked, a lot of people said 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.200 that did absolutely nothing. The home's still out there. And 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.040 then the most people said, I still don't know what 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.840 you're talking about. So that that and that wasn't actually 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:21.280 the first time government has looked into the hum. In Taos, 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.960 New Mexico, there's something called the Taos Home and apparently, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.040 uh somebody wrote in to complain about it to a 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.760 local newspaper, and all of a sudden, like hundreds more 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.360 people said, yes, I hear the same thing. I've been 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.880 hearing the same thing for years. What is going on? 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.360 And enough of enough people said something in New Mexico 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.120 that it prompted an investigation by the University of New 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.280 Mexico and Sandy A Labs, which I think is like 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.760 a government affiliated kind of Um, well, it's a neat 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:55.280 research lab. They deal sorts of cool clandestine stuff, right, Um, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.800 very much so. And actually the X Files mentioned the 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.840 hum and episode called Drive. Yeah. Interesting, they talk about it. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.000 There was a couple of characters had to constantly move 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.520 westward or else they would suffer from the pressure of 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.240 this hum that no one else could hear. Let me guess, 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.880 Mulder believe Scully did not exactly how did you saw 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.000 that one? No? I didn't, but you know, so, Um, 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.320 they looked into the Taos hum and they could never 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.800 figure out what it was, so I think they kind 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.800 of wrote it off as either mass delusion or a 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.640 bunch of people had tenitas or what have you, which 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.400 is again, that's the that's the easy that's the easy answer. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.040 Like you have tonitas. The problem is if if a 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:41.480 person has tenitas, they the sound is internal, like they remember. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.120 There's like the idea that the isn't it a high 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.560 pitch ringing. Yes, usually it can. It can vary in 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:52.080 in um and pitch, but for the most part it's 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.080 you can tell it's internal with the hum. Everyone who 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.320 experiences the hum says, no, this is external, and it's 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.000 it's they're so convinced it's external that they'll go out 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.520 at night when it's worse and try to find the 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.800 source of it. They'll drive around their city or their 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.960 neighborhood or walk around and look for what it is 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.480 that's driving them crazy and they'll never find it, or 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.720 they'll turn off the power of their house, or I mean, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.840 there's all sorts of extreme um, and of course it's 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.600 all like anecdotal, but people that are driven to suicide 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.760 or this one guy who intentionally deafened himself with a chainsaw, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:29.440 which I'm not sure how you do. I guess I 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:35.440 think um and possibly even murder, which we'll get to 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.160 in a bit, which is pretty interesting. But the point 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:44.760 is that it's not just something that's just bugging people 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.600 like it. It is having the hum. There are people 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.480 all over the world that don't know each other, that 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:55.280 have never met that, um, are suffering from something that 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.120 they hear that other people can't hear in concentrated areas. Yeah, 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.240 and then and that's the affecting their quality of life. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.080 And UM, I don't know if I ever finished the sentence, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.040 which is weird That means I'm really interested in something. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.120 But um, did we say or did I say that 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.520 people who suffer from the hum tend to be in 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.480 their fifties and older. Yeah, that's one of the markers 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.199 between Okay, so there's a this is something in the 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:26.399 favor of acoustic sound. Um. So, acoustic sound is a 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.760 compression wave and it's something that's carried through and propagates 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:35.160 through media. So um, there it's a vibration in the air. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:40.879 Whereas an electromagnetics wave comes from an electrical or a 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:45.320 magnetic or both source. This is like the vibe vibration. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.280 It's a sound wave. That's that's an acoustic wave. Right. So, UM, 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.440 as we age, say you get to around fifty years 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.800 of age, your ability to hear high frequency and mid 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:03.400 frequency acoustic sound diminishes. Your low frequency capabilities go undiminished, 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.159 so it's not like they increase, but comparatively speaking, you 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.920 get better at hearing low frequencies around age fifty. Interesting. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:15.520 So what some people think is that if it is electromagnetic, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.720 then there are some people out there who are capable 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:24.520 of hearing electromagnetic waves while the rest of us can't 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.119 and they're being driven crazy by some source that we 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:33.720 have yet to identify. UM, or if it's acoustic, that 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.840 there are some people out there who are superheroes of 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.800 low frequency sound, which would also kind of um do 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.920 away with another diagnosis that a lot of doctors give people, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.840 which is hyper accusus, which to me is worth a 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.720 whole other podcast. It's another people kill themselves over this 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.439 heightened hyper hearing, which where like this, the rustle of 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.280 clothes is unbearable. The thing is is, if you have 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.040 hyper accute, says, it's not just gonna be some home 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.040 that you hear and everything else is normal, which is 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.040 what hum sufferers experience. You would hear everything on this 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.280 grand scale. You'd be like Spider Man exactly. So what 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.720 they think is that there are people who UM are 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.280 predisposed to hearing low frequency sounds way better than other 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.480 people and that it comes as their higher and mid 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:28.760 frequency capabilities diminished with age. But again, what are they hearing? Well, 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.639 that's right, um. I mentioned earlier the h A A 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.280 r P program that the US government military is doing 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.679 in Alaska. The other one that I teased um is 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.440 the TACAMO, the Take Charge and Move Out system. On 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.840 the nineteen sixties, the U. S. Navy basically adopted this 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.400 program to be able to U communicate with submarines, long 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:55.640 range bombers UM ballistic missiles during nuclear war. And they 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.600 use very low frequency radio waves to do so. And 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.760 you know, it's a real thing, but is it the 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.600 hum um? Other conspiracy theorists will say that the US 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.960 government is also using these things to target individuals UM 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.280 and of course that's you know, you want to say 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.119 that's probably bunk, but you never know. Well, you know, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.680 what the cool irony is that Jared Keller points out 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:23.800 is that if the HUM is electromagnetic in nature, tinfoil 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.119 hat and aluminum foil hat would actually work because it 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:31.840 blocks out about I write, but like just a thin 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:37.520 layer of aluminum can block out like of electromagnetic waves. 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:43.520 So that's pretty ironic that it might actually work. Although 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.639 I don't I haven't heard whether that helps people with 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:49.840 the hum, if they put on a tinfoil hat, if 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.440 that would help or not, or if it has UM. 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:56.400 But speaking of Tacomo, uh, if you read David Demming's 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.440 UM journal article, it's called the hum and an homeless 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.160 sound heard around the world. And there is a journal 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:06.440 called the Journal of Scientific Exploration, which is a pure 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.359 viewed scientific journal that accepts articles on things on the 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:15.480 fringe of science, which the home most decidedly is UM. 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.399 David demon gets into Tacomo and he basically says, this 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.760 is a secret government program. So obviously we can't get 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:24.200 any real answers. We don't know how often it works 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.840 or how often they're transmitting or anything, but we do 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.760 know it is a real thing. And he correlates some 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.439 dates when there's like upgrades to the system and then 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.320 all of a sudden in this one area around the 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:39.200 same time there's the Kokomo Indiana home starts UM. So 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.439 he he does a good job of correlating, and I 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.479 think that's kind of what he settles on. He believes 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:48.240 that it's probably the TACAMO program that this very low 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:55.359 frequency transmission. Two submarines underwater from airplanes above is being 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:59.119 propagated around the world, and that would suggest that it's 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.840 a global so right, that it's just some people can 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.520 hear these radio waves that you're not supposed to be 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:11.000 able to hear. Yeah, or it's multiple sources combined, like 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.200 a combined effect, like if you live near an industrial 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.080 plant that has a machine that's making the sound that 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:20.640 maybe certain people are retuned to or not. I don't know. Well, 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:25.080 it's another characteristic is that it's mostly experienced in the country. 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.720 Do see. I just chalk that up to noise pollution 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.800 being red. Yeah. Like when I worked at a convenient 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:35.320 store in the midnight shift the um. When I worked 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.520 during the day, I would not notice anything, But when 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.080 I worked up there at night at three am, I 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.560 would hear the buzzing of the fluorescent lights and it 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.240 would drive me crazy. Uh you know, I would turn 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.040 them off and people would think we were closed. So 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:52.440 you the thing is you eventually stopped hearing that, right, Well, 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:56.879 when I left work. That's called habituation. So habituation means 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:01.600 that you are capable of so like you'd focus on 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.560 these things the whole time you were there. Well, yeah, 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.240 in the middle, I wouldn't focus on it, but I 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.160 would notice. I'd be reading a book and I would 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.760 just hear that sound, you know, But I never noticed 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.280 it during the day when the lights were on. But 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.480 so like when you didn't hear it, that's habituation where 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.960 like you're you're exposed to something, your brain says, uh, 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.720 this is totally it's not a threat. I don't have 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.320 to pay attention to it anymore. So anytime in this 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:29.240 context that I hear that sound, I don't have to 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.280 become cognizant of it. Now apparently you did. You kind 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:35.320 of like fell into cognizance like here or there, and 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.960 like you'd notice it again. But for a normal human being, 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.879 when you're exposed to something like that over and over again, 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.560 the less you notice it. But like we said with 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.040 the hum the more you're exposed to it, the easier 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:50.840 it is to tune in. And what that's called no, 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:54.280 And not only can you not escape it, you can 0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:57.200 catch it easier and easier, Like you can become cognizant 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.639