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Speaker 1: Y'all.

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Speaker 2: It is the Thanksgiving Crime Round Up with Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 2: and we are both running in two different directions. Her

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Speaker 2: kitchen looks like a mouse unit in full action, all

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Speaker 2: cylinders burning.

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Speaker 3: How are you, honey, I'm great.

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Speaker 4: It's taken me this long just to make the dressing,

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Speaker 4: but I just let it quote rest in the fridge.

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Speaker 4: So all those pans of dressing are now in the

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Speaker 4: fridge waiting for tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it looks amazing.

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Speaker 3: It looks old Home week. Good.

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Speaker 1: Now, wait, you didn't call me to talk about my

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Speaker 1: dressing because I am not giving you the recipe. That's

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Speaker 1: not happening. Well darn it.

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Speaker 3: Well let's move on.

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Speaker 2: Then. Well I tell you who ain't cooking and who

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Speaker 2: ain't having a traditional Thanksgiving, and that's Diddy.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I think you're a little obsessed with him,

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Speaker 1: because all you want to talk about is Didy. And

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Speaker 1: it really intensified when we found out that he spent

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Speaker 1: what was at five hundred thousand dollars to customize some

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Speaker 1: party venue with floor to ceiling literally floor to ceiling

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Speaker 1: mirrors so he could seek quote debauchery from every angle.

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Speaker 1: And you know what debauchery means that is a fancy

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Speaker 1: word for raping women that you have drugged with probably

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Speaker 1: GHB and their drinks and they have no idea. That's

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Speaker 1: the allegation. But you know, you can keep talking about

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Speaker 1: the mirror sheerl since he seemed to be stuck on

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Speaker 1: that fact. And I'm not even going to question why.

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Speaker 1: But that's a whole other can words. Can I talk

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Speaker 1: about the bail issue and the judge took it under advisement.

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Speaker 1: One rape puts you behind bars without bail, one alleged rape.

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Speaker 1: How many victims are we talking about? This is judge

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Speaker 1: out to quote? Think about it?

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Speaker 3: Think about it my rear, and I'll tell you something.

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Speaker 2: When his attorney put in the paperwork, Hey, here's the

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Speaker 2: apartment complex that he wants to rent while he's out

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Speaker 2: on bail.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 2: Anybody living in that building should ask for an injunction

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Speaker 2: and stop that madness.

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Speaker 1: Now, the lawyers for Seawan Comes as apparently I'm the

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Speaker 1: only one that uses his real name, lawyers Comes and

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Speaker 1: says they are sending a security guard to inspect the

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Speaker 1: three bedroom luxury apartment where Comes will stay. If he

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Speaker 1: gets the bell. You know how much a one bedroom

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Speaker 1: apartment costs a New York a month like five grand

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Speaker 1: a month, much less a three bedroom extravaganza. What is

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Speaker 1: he going to inspect it for wall to floor ceilings.

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Speaker 3: The security is there for the wrong reason.

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Speaker 2: The people in that building are the ones that are

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Speaker 2: going to need security. He has intimidated one witness while

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Speaker 2: behind bars, contacting her fifty times, and now he wants

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Speaker 2: to get out and go home or go to a

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Speaker 2: new home. And my question is, isn't that where all

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Speaker 2: the alleged crimes have happened in his home.

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Speaker 1: I'm not so worried as much about him molesting his

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Speaker 1: neighbors in the apartment building, which is apparently on the

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Speaker 1: upper east Side of New York. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: that's generally speaking, anywhere from forty up on the east

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Speaker 1: side by the East River. I don't know where it

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Speaker 1: could be. But I'm more concerned about him skipping bond.

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Speaker 1: He could take off that ankle monitor, leave it there

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Speaker 1: with his quote security team and be at Teterborough in

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Hey, he could be there faster than that.

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Speaker 1: If he caught a helicopter off the water pad on

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Speaker 1: the East River, he could be at Teterborough in twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes and gone, gone before anyone could even be alerted,

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Speaker 1: and he'd be over in Paris doing his thing. What

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Speaker 1: Kanye has done for so long?

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Speaker 2: And what do we always say, if they've got means,

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Speaker 2: motive and opportunity, they need to take that opportunity away

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's bothering me is this is rich Man's justice.

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Speaker 1: Rich Man's justice because he has the ability to keep

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Speaker 1: going back and asking for bond, asking for bond, renting

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Speaker 1: a three bedroom luxury apartment in Manhattan, and hire his

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Speaker 1: own security team. How do you think they're loyalty the victims. No,

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Speaker 1: they're loyal to comes. And it's very disturbing to me

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Speaker 1: that this is even a possibility. I mean, why do

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Speaker 1: they keep giving him one bond hearing after the next,

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Speaker 1: after the next, after the next. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 2: How about the list it was in his jail sale,

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Speaker 2: the to do list where it says, let's get dirt

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Speaker 2: on the victims.

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Speaker 1: And no, oh I found this out, Cheryl Okay. For

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Speaker 1: anybody that doesn't already know this, shame, shame, shame on

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Speaker 1: you because you weren't watching crime stories with NJ but

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Speaker 1: a raid was done at NBC Metropolitan Detention Center. Cheryl,

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Speaker 1: we have been hearing about raids and investigations we're going

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Speaker 1: to take place since before Shawn Combs was in NBC.

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Speaker 1: They've been threatening we're doing an investigation. We've heard about

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Speaker 1: a lot of drugs. We've heard about a lot of weapons.

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Speaker 1: You already had Epstein die there that this the conditions

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Speaker 1: are bad, blah blah blah blah, we're gonna investigate.

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Speaker 3: Okay, They finally did it, really.

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Speaker 1: Looking for drugs and contraband, Shank's weapons do you name it?

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Speaker 1: And they find nineteen pages of handwritten notes by Shawn

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Speaker 1: Combs while they're searching his his sell Also, they find

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Speaker 1: out that he has been violating the rules by using

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Speaker 1: other inmates phone cards. Phone Well, it's phone capabilities you have.

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Speaker 1: It's a voice activated I believe phone capability, and you

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Speaker 1: can make X number of phone calls. He's been using

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Speaker 1: their minutes to hook up three ways patch in other

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Speaker 1: people that he will get to do his bidding. So

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Speaker 1: that's violation number one. And it sounds like a small thing,

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Speaker 1: but when you are in an l law enforcement facility,

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Speaker 1: you are not supposed to break the rules. He breaks

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Speaker 1: all the rules. Then they find nineteen pages of hand

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Speaker 1: written notes about quote finding dirt on victims. And now

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Speaker 1: they argue to the judge that the jailers took quote

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Speaker 1: legal product, work product and shame, shame, shame on the prosecutors.

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Speaker 1: That's bs. Now I find out that most of this

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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with any legal strategy. So it's

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Speaker 1: all lies. What hoop you're sitting down now? Comms is

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Speaker 1: saying it's all racially motivated. Now, this is a minority

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Speaker 1: guy that has made it to the top of the

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Speaker 1: food chain reportedly what a multi multi multi millionaire. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand this, but that's a whole other can of worms.

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Speaker 1: They're throwing everything they can at this judge.

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Speaker 2: Also, when they went in there, he had written legal

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Speaker 2: on their win. Because the original photographs don't have the

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Speaker 2: word legal on there, it looks like somebody did it

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Speaker 2: after the fact to make it look like it was privileged.

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Speaker 2: But just because it has the word legal on there

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's something that only your attorney can see. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: if that was the case, Nancy, every single inmate would

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Speaker 2: get a folder and write legal on it.

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Speaker 3: And that's where they would keep their drugs and weapons.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're right. Another thing, the defense attorney argued Agna Fhillo.

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Speaker 1: He argued that this three bedroom luxury apartment would be

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Speaker 1: quote more restrictive than the MDC Metropolitan Detention Center. He

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Speaker 1: actually argued that. He argued, there would be three security

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Speaker 1: his legal team. I mean, how can you actually look

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Speaker 1: at the judge and say that we I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: the prosecution went crazy and described how he would beat victims,

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Speaker 1: of it was redacted or blackdout, so I can't see

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Speaker 1: exactly what they were saying, but mostly names names were blackout.

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Speaker 1: But we saw what he did to Cassie Ventira, and

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Speaker 1: that was in a public hallway off a public hotel.

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Speaker 1: What would he do to ladies a woman alone behind

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Speaker 2: Bottom line is we do not need to give him

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Speaker 2: a home base to work out of inside the jail. Celle,

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Speaker 2: he's been able to intimidate people, contact people, put together

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Speaker 2: to the to do list of how he was going

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Speaker 2: to further harass and intimidate people and get you know,

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Speaker 2: dirt on them.

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Speaker 3: This needs to start down.

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Speaker 1: What is that in the.

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Speaker 3: Background at the Atlanta airport?

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Speaker 1: What can I tell you one last thing they did. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the defensive attorney actually compared Cones to Trump and the

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Speaker 1: presidential immunity case. He also claimed that he was being

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Speaker 1: denied his right to free speech. I mean, I imagine

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Speaker 1: the judge was sitting there looking like at the defense

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Speaker 1: lire don't what in I mean talk about throwing everything

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Speaker 1: out there and seeing what sticks claiming presidential immunity. I

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Speaker 1: gotta I gotta study that, figure out how they extrapolated

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Speaker 1: that presidential immunity, free speech, race inequity. Well, let's see

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Speaker 1: what he did to so many arguments, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: waiting to see what's going to happen. I'm very surprised

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Speaker 1: that just quote took get under advice. Oh and the

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Speaker 1: other thing, that part of his plan was to have

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Speaker 1: his children call him on his birthday for a pr stunt.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it was. He said

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Speaker 1: that any infringement on that would be violating his rights

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Speaker 1: free speech. You know what, fine, have as many videos

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Speaker 1: with your children as you want to. I really, honestly

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Speaker 1: don't see any problem with that. These states claiming he's

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Speaker 1: sympathetic to potential to yours. Fine, do it, but putting

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Speaker 2: Note agreed, one hundred percent. The victims need to know

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Speaker 2: that they are safe. And he has violated every rule

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Speaker 2: in that jail just about and he violated them on

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Speaker 3: He does not need to be a free man.

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Speaker 1: I really do not think that under our constitution. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that he can be limited to not doing

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Speaker 1: So I don't think that's the issue. The issue for

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Speaker 1: me is him getting out on bond, because what does

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Speaker 1: that say to all the rape victims? What does that

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Speaker 1: say in you You may believe that some of these

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Speaker 1: alleged victims they're not victims at all, fine, fine, but

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Speaker 1: many of them are, that's my belief. And what is

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Speaker 2: And again, Nancy, to your point, we're not talking about

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Speaker 2: one or five or twenty women. We're talking about over

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty victims, men and women and children.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, that's what I'm just wondering. When the judge

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Speaker 1: is going to hand out a rolling Now, sometimes I've

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Speaker 1: seen this many well, every single time ever dun a

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Speaker 1: bench trial, every time there was an important issue to

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Speaker 1: be determined and arguments from Maine in court, with or

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Speaker 1: without as your read, the judge always goes back to

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Speaker 1: his or her chambers. I don't know what they do

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Speaker 1: back there, because they already know how they're going to rule.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they already know how they're going to rule.

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Speaker 1: They go back there. I guess they have a cup

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They bys with their staff and they come out and

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Speaker 1: look all serious, and they read their ruling. That's what happens,

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Speaker 1: like it or not, that's what happens. What is this

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Speaker 1: on Friday? I don't know what he's doing, But what

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Speaker 1: do you think is he going to do this? Why

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Speaker 1: thinking about it unless he's going to do it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know they've said no twice. And now, like

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Speaker 1: This may be for show. I mean the judge may

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Speaker 1: he is waying his options, that means he is open

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Speaker 2: Gone, yeah don And again, it would be one thing

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Speaker 2: if he had behaved, but we know that's not the case. Here,

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Speaker 2: the one victim that has been contacted fifty times, how

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Speaker 2: is that judge going to explain to her that, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to make sure that he is not a

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Speaker 3: We're going to make sure that he is not going

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Speaker 2: You haven't been able to do that when he's locked

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Speaker 3: How in the world are you going to do it

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Speaker 1: Well, here's another thing, what about this judge. Can he

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Speaker 1: look his two other judge friends in the face that

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Speaker 1: have already denied bond and say, yeah, you were wrong

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Speaker 1: Sean Comes, who's accused of so many rates and sex assaults.

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Speaker 1: What's a peg for the judge to hang his hat on.

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Speaker 2: Zero? Absolutely zero, And I understand that bond is not

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Speaker 2: a punishment. To your point, he has got the ability

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Speaker 1: How would he do it? How would he do it?

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Speaker 3: He could get on a boat, he could, like you said,

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Speaker 3: take a helicopter. I mean, there's enough people that can

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's not give him any ideas, but we

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Speaker 2: with less money than he has.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that Come's got moved to a dorm

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Speaker 1: like setting. He's not even in a regular sell anymore.

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Speaker 3: And see that is bizarre to me. I don't understand

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Speaker 3: that move now that I will tell you.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what I know. It will be a

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Speaker 1: horrible message to rape victims all over the world if

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Speaker 1: this happens, If he gets pawned as it is, he's

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Speaker 1: already been moved to a quote nicer area where it's

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Speaker 1: a dorm setting with a few other inmates. I already

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Speaker 1: don't like that. I feel like he's getting special treatment

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Speaker 1: because of his money and his fame, and that is wrong,

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Speaker 1: completely wrong. Okay, So that's that's what's playing out up

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Speaker 1: there in Manhattan right now, waiting on the other shoot

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Speaker 1: at drop my my bet. And you know I don't bet,

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Speaker 1: but you and I actually did. Did I win? Did

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Speaker 1: you do you owe me a dollar? I think I

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Speaker 3: Well, let's go double or nothing. Right now, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to say, well said he's not going to get bond.

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Speaker 1: There I said it, louder darn it.

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Speaker 3: But we've got other things to bet about.

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Speaker 1: I tell you.

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Speaker 2: Then, I believe, like you, he's going to be denied

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Speaker 2: a third time. And I think the victims, that our

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Speaker 3: Of that equation.

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Speaker 2: When this judge reviews what's happening also his you know

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Speaker 2: behavior while incarcerated, Well.

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Speaker 1: Well, bother's me he's going to be if he gets bond,

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Speaker 1: he's being treated differently from every other alleged rapist.

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Speaker 3: Well he already has. Nobody gets three tries.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's something for you to be thankful, thankful

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Speaker 1: for ever, thanksgiving that. As for now, Sean Times is

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Speaker 1: still behind bars. Hey where are you going? Are you

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Speaker 1: getting out of cooking.

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Speaker 3: I am getting out of cooking, Sugar. It is great.

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Speaker 2: I am headed to New York to see the new

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Speaker 2: baby in our family, Zoe's first son, Jamison, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Going to be able to spend Thanksgiving with my.

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Speaker 2: Sister Shelley, and I have not had Thanksgiving with her

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Speaker 2: literally in decades, so it's a wonderful, wonderful event.

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Speaker 3: And I you know what, you and I have got

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Speaker 3: much to be thankful for.

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Speaker 1: We really, really, Dave Cheryl, We really do okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Only have one more thing to say, Happy Thanksgiving everybody.

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Speaker 3: Amen, see us in Sugar.

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Speaker 1: Bye, sister,