1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Rolling along here for our three of 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: by Man. Clay and I are locked in, dialed in, 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: bringing you all the latest today, everything you need to 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: know about, everything we need to be talking about here. Please, 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: if you have not, go check out Clayanbuck dot com. 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: We got stories there, We've got updates from the show, 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: SoundBite clips. Remember to be an EIB subscriber. 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That the Democrats are not trying to 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: pretend that what Biden did was somehow a good thing 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: and well executed. That's the big that's the big hole 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: in this well executed withdrawal from Afghanistan, which is simply absurd, 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: and Tony Blinkin is really the classic lib version of 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: a diplomat, I mean, a guy who you just feel 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: like he's feckless, ineffectual, but has a fancy resume, and 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: so we're all supposed to bow before him and listen 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: to his genius, even though there's nothing impressive about this 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: guy whatsoever. But before we get back into all that, 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: and also some more thoughts on the COVID situation as 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: it is playing out across the country right now. Oh, 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: and the California recall, which Clay's fired up. He's fired 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: up because he feels like there's some data that we'll 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: be able to pull apart here that'll show broader, broader 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: trend we'll see, right, but there could be data that 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: shows broader trends of California as a place that is 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: a harbinger of things to come for the Democrat Party 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: in the midterms. Maybe maybe we'll get into that. But 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: Clay first off in the Washington Post right now today, 38 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: they're big story top General was so fearful Trump might 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: spark war that he made secret calls to his Chinese counterpart. 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: This is in the book Peril by Bob Woodward and 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Robert Costa says that General Mark Milly, we all know him, right, 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Chairman the Joint chiefs of Staff. Who's the guy that 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: gave up bogram, the guy who said reading white fragility 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: in the military is you know, a good idea? We 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: have a diverse reading list or something like that. He said. 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: He said that he called this Chinese counterpart before the 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: election and after January sixth to avert a war with China. 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: All right, let me just just a little of the 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: detail here, clay, and then we got this is this 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: is pretty big stuff because it goes to a lot 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: of other things we saw playing out both under the 52 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: Trump administration at the end and now still with the 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: by administration. Twice in the five months of the Trump administration, 54 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: the country's top military officer was so fearful the president's 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: actions might spark a war with China that he moved 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: to urgently avert conflict, and a pair of secret phone calls, 57 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: General Mark Milly the Chamber of the JCFS JCS assures 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Chinese counterpart of the People's Liberation Army that the United 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: States would not strike. One call took place on October thirtieth, 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, days before the election, that I'd ceeded 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: President Trump the other on January eighth, twenty twenty one, 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: two days after the Capitol siege carried out by his supporters, 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Milly went so far as to pledge he would alert 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: his counterpart in the event of a US attack, stressing 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: the rapport they'd established through a back channel. General Lee, 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: you and I have known each other for five years. 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: If we're going to attack, I'm going to call you 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: ahead of time. It's not going to be a surprise, Clay. 69 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: That is not a call the Chairman of the Joint 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs of Staff of the United States be making. Isn't 71 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: that treason? I mean, when you really think about it, 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: if we have a democratically elected president who is the 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: commander in chief and is entrusted with this is why 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: we have a civilian who is in charge of the 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: military and makes choices like that, wouldn't it be a 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: form I'm just asking. I'm not an expert on You're 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: better plugged into the command structure and the organization of 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: the United States bureaucracy beneath the commander in chief than 79 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: I would. But strictly from the perspective of top down management. 80 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: If I am the commander in chief and I believe 81 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: that there is something that China is doing that our 82 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: country needs to respond to, wouldn't it be a form 83 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: of treason for one of the top military officers in 84 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: our country to notify a foreign adversary before we were 85 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: taking action against them in direct contravention of the orders 86 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: of the President of the United States. McClay, this is outrageous, 87 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean, isn't that a form I mean, 88 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, if, like, if you, if you 89 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: are consulting with the foreign adversary and thereby creating obstacles 90 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: to what the President of the United States is ordering, 91 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: then that to me seems like a form of espionage 92 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: or treason that would be punishable under American law. Treason 93 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: would be giving aid and comfort to the enemy under 94 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: a technical federal statutory definition, right, So you'd have to 95 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: argue that China was an enemy combatant in this. I mean, 96 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: if we're really going to break this down, I think 97 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: that that's probably probably where that analysis would go. It 98 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: certainly feels trees of this. It certainly feels like a 99 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: betrayal of the trust put in that person, and I 100 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: think you could certainly argue that it really amounts to 101 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: a preparation for a mutiny of sorts against the commander 102 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: in chief, whereby this individual, as the chairman of the 103 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs of Staff, was willing to cut out the 104 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: actual commander in chief of our country of the decision 105 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: making process and to give advanced warning to the church. 106 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: I this is like, I don't understand how this guy, 107 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: if this story is true, whether you're a Democrat or 108 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: a Republican or an independent, I don't understand how you 109 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: can justify him being in office in any I could 110 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: tell you what the Democrats if Donald Trump had done 111 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: this and he never did anything even remotely like this. 112 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: Although they used the word treason and trader for Trump 113 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: all the time over the Russia lies, if this were 114 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: a Donald Trump involved story, it would be the President 115 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: committed conspiracy to commit treason. That's what they would say, 116 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: that these were the steps, these were the affirmative acts 117 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: of a treasonous plot. But because of course it was 118 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: against Trump, they're going to say, oh, you know, he 119 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: was just defending the republic and all the rest of 120 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: it but Clay, there were very real implications, and this 121 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: is something that I think everyone does need to keep 122 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: in mind and we need to remind each other of this. 123 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: There were very real implications from the Democratic line corporate 124 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: media pretending for four years that Donald Trump was not 125 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: of sound mind, that Donald Trump could start a war 126 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: with some foreign country. I mean, not even just your 127 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: North Korea or China, you know, Canada. I mean that 128 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was some reckless loose cannon that narrative. People 129 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: in positions of authority in the government read the bullcrap 130 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: in the New York Times and the Washington Post every day. 131 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: They're thinking is influenced by it. And so the lies 132 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: that the media apparatus is willing to tell to take 133 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Trump down in this case, I think played out with 134 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: unbelievable consequence. Well, let's just think about this for a minute. 135 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and again, I'm this news has just come out, right, 136 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: so we're breaking it down in real time. He had 137 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: to Millie or someone that he was close to, had 138 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: to be Bob Woodward's source here. So he is bragging 139 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: to Bob Woodward about not being willing to follow the 140 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: direction of his direct superior. The democratically elected president of 141 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: the United States, which is how military coups end up 142 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: occurring in other countries. Oh yeah. The coup plotters and 143 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: executors always say they're doing it for the benefit of 144 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: the trench. That they always think they're the heroes. That 145 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: at this point, that is why we specifically put a 146 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: democratically elected official above the military, because there's always been 147 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: the threat read a history book for once of a 148 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: highly leveraged political general deciding to use his military to 149 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: execute a coup and take over a country. It still 150 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: happens all the time today, but it has been the 151 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: number one way I would say, you'd probably agree as 152 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: somebody who studied history the number one way that governments 153 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: lose their power is typically the military refuses to accede 154 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: to the directives of the political figure. Oh yeah. Most 155 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: most coups actually come from the internal circle of the 156 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: most powerful autun the actual regime. There's been I've read 157 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: academic studies on this, and this has been this has 158 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: been looked at over time and Clay with General Millie 159 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: here saying this, you're right, he's playing to the trumped 160 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: arrangement syndrome Democrat Party, or rather by doing this, he 161 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: thought he'd be a hero in their eyes at this 162 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: ever came to light. But let's think about what he's 163 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: really talking about here. He believed that Trump was just 164 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: going to start a war with China for no reason. 165 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: This guy is in charge of the United States military 166 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: at a very senior level, and he really thought that 167 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: this is this is deranged. I mean, this is absurd, 168 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: it's it's deeply and by the way, he still has 169 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: the job. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying 170 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: Buck this and he not only is this story out there, 171 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: but it's like he's bragging about what he did intentionally 172 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: to Woodward and or whoever he told this story to, 173 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: whether it was Bob Woodword directly, or whether it was 174 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: someone else in his circle who he told to talk 175 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: to Bob Woodward. In other words, I don't think a 176 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: story like this, Buck gets out accidentally. He had to 177 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: acquiesce to it being told. So it's either him or 178 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: somebody in his circle of power that was telling this story. 179 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: And again I just come back to like, strip aside, 180 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: who the president is, strip aside, who the country that 181 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: we are in conflict with in some way is if 182 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: you heard that a top general had been having back 183 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: channel conversations in order to circumvent the leadership of the 184 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: democratically elected president of the United States. That is flagrantly 185 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: unconstitutional behavior as a military official on his part. And 186 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: remember we got Jnald Trump impeached because of a public 187 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: phone call that he had with the president of the 188 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: Ukraine that people said was inappropriate. We're talking about a general, 189 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: someone who is not elected to a position, having a 190 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: secret phone call with the country that I think it's 191 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: fair to say multiple multiple secret phone calls and conversations 192 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: with the country that I think almost every single person 193 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now would argue is 194 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: the biggest enemy of the United Question the world. It's tiny, 195 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: real challenge to the United States. Clay, and this also 196 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: comes from, first of all, the Democrats who read this story. 197 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: The Washington Post publishes this. It's obviously in the Woodwork book, 198 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: so it's not their scoop, but it's yeah, they're they're 199 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: they're giving a lot of I mean, there's a very 200 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: close relationship with Woodword for obvious reasons in the Post, 201 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: and they're giving a big megaphone to this. Democrats think 202 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: this is great. I mean, remember Democrats got enthusiastic excited 203 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: about using the twenty fifth Amendment to remove Trump. They 204 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: love that story. That was something that would get them excited, right. 205 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Get They do not care about the constitution, the chain 206 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: of command, our institutions of government. It's all a game 207 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: to them in order to get what they want and 208 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: have their people in power. Because you cannot look at 209 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: this and come away thinking anything other than this is reckless. 210 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: It undermines the commander chief, I mean war with China. 211 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about some peace negotiation with some country 212 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: we could give a crap about. At the end of 213 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: the day. This is China. It feels like espionage to me. 214 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: It feels like treason. It feels like actual collusion with 215 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: China as opposed to the bullcrap version of Russia collusion 216 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: that we had. And it totally undermines the entire purpose 217 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: of having a civilian in charge of our armed people. 218 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: We'll come back into more of this. Plus the blinkin 219 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: testimony going on a Capitol hill a Secretary of State. 220 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: How is the Afghanistan thing such a debacle? I don't know. 221 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: I went to Harvard. I'm fancy. I mean that's you know, 222 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: how's this guy still in position of power at all? Well, 223 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: what I wanted to ask you, I don't know if 224 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: you talk about Blinking or MILLI it works for both. 225 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: I would I think, in particular, I would argue that 226 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: Millie's job security as chairman of the j JCS under 227 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: Biden is strengthened by this story. I think he's a 228 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: true anti Trump believer now and so he's even less 229 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: likely to get pushed out. That's what I would say. 230 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: That's what I would argue. At least we'll come back 231 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: in this in a second. 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Walking back in 250 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton block Buck stir News in many 251 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: ways I think associated with this claim that General Millie 252 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: was having behind the scenes conversations with his Chinese counterparts, 253 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: essentially letting them know either I'm not going to execute 254 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: the orders that are given to me by the democratically 255 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: elected President of the United States, Donald Trump, or I'm 256 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: going to give you a heads up before we take 257 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: military action. And Buck and I are having the discussion 258 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: in the last segment again, as this news is breaking, 259 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: and my immediate read on it is this is treason, 260 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: this is espionage, and so I want to take it 261 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: out of the current Donald Trump dynamics and let's just 262 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: go to history. Okay, Let's pretend that we had a 263 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: really good relationship with Japan in early December or late 264 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: November of nineteen forty one, and we got a secret 265 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: phone call from a Japanese military member and he said, here, 266 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Hito has lost his mind. Over here in Japan. He's 267 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: enthralled with the Axis powers. He and Hitler are having 268 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: secret communications, and I want to let you know something. 269 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: I think he's about to launch an unprovoked attack against 270 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: you in the United States, and it's going to happen. 271 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: I believe at Pearl Harbor, your Pacific military base, what 272 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: we would like to have that information, and certainly it 273 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: would be helpful to us. Would that be treason in 274 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: your mind on behalf of the Japanese general who was 275 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: giving that information to his American counterpart in advance and 276 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: in direct opposition to the military planning of Japan. I 277 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: think almost all of you out there listening right now 278 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: would say, man, that guy in Japan would be committing 279 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: treason against his country and would certainly be guilty of espionage. 280 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm using a historical analogy outside of the United States 281 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of times Donald Trump himself 282 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: is so freighted, Buck with emotional responses that it's hard 283 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: for people to think rationally. But when I hear that 284 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: report from Bob Woodward, I immediately think this is treason. 285 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: This is espionage. And not only that Millie is bragging 286 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: about it. Bragging about it, Buck two eight eight two. 287 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: I would like to hear from military out there that 288 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: might have an opinion about this in terms of chain 289 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: of command and more. But in the meantime, I want 290 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: to tell you nearly a third of Americans suffer from 291 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: chronic pain as a result of aging, exercise, over exertion, 292 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: in the effects of everyday living. Relief Factor can help 293 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: you combat that pain. Doctors created it over fifty years 294 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: of research. Bucks. Mom and Dad are using it, My 295 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: wife is using it. 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In return, 309 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: the Taliban agreed to stop attacking US and partner forces 310 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: to retrain and from threatening Afghanistan's major cities, but the 311 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Taliban continuing a relentless march on remote outposts, on checkpoints, 312 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: on villages, districts, as well as the major roles connecting. 313 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: By January twenty twenty one, the Taliban was in the 314 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: strongest military position it has been in since nine eleven. 315 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: As a result. On taking office, President Biden immediately faced 316 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: the choice between ending the war or escalat Okay, So 317 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: it was Trump's fault, you see, It's always so convenient, 318 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: isn't it. Anything goes wrong, it's Trump's fault in Afghanistan 319 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: at the border. For a while, they were trying that one. 320 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: Whatever it may be, they'll trot out that it's Trump's fault, 321 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: or they'll use Trump and welcome back to Clay and 322 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 1: Buck show. This is Buck Clay and I are just 323 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: rolling through today. We got so much to talk to 324 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: you about. As always, and they use Trump as the 325 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: ultimate distraction. There's always an opportunity, there's always a means 326 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: for them to say, oh but the insurrection, or oh 327 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: but Russia collusion or whatever it may be. What they 328 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: don't want is for the American people to focus in 329 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: and pass their judgment on the stupidity, the arrogance, and 330 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: just the disaster that is defining the Biden presidency so far. 331 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: You see this with the way they're handling COVID. You 332 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: see this with the way they handle the economy, The 333 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: lawlessness at our southern border, our de facto open border, 334 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: the continued violence in major cities. They even talk today 335 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: about what's going on in Minneapolis post the George Floyd incident. 336 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: We will talk about it. We should talk about it, 337 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: because it's just gotten worse for everybody. Less law enforcement, 338 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: more crime, more misery. That's Democrats think that somehow is progress. 339 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: You know, we should suffer as a country, our cities 340 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: should suffer. But people that are working class of course, 341 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: and disproportionately minorities who are working class suffer in our 342 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: cities as a result of the demonization of police. You see, 343 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: they're never somehow responsible for the bad things that happen. 344 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: The Democrat apparatus of control, the apparatics who run around 345 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: on TV telling you this is the way it has 346 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: to be. If you disagree, you're racist. If you disagree, 347 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: you're a war monger, or whatever the case may be. 348 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: You don't care about old people dying from COVID. So 349 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: many things they throw out there. It's all rhetoric. And 350 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: now we have the General Millie episode after we had 351 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: been for four years told constantly Clay that Trump was 352 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: a threat to our government institutions. That was the line. 353 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: It was always Trump is undermining our institutions. Was it 354 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: very vague? What does that even mean? And why were 355 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: there never any specifics saying mean things to CNN journalists. 356 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: Is not undermining our government, but they acted like it was. 357 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: And now we see once again they tried the quasi 358 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: legal coup of the Muller probe. They tried the quasi 359 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: legal coup of the twenty fifth Amendment, pretending Rump was crazy, 360 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: when really they just disagreed with them. Unfortunately, they couldn't 361 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: pull that one off. And now we find yet another instance, 362 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get all these lectures. On January sixth, 363 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: the worst thing ever, so scary, almost overthrew the government. 364 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: The most powerful military officer in uniform in the country 365 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: having conversations with our greatest adversary about how he will 366 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: go against the will of the commander in chief. The 367 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: talk was that Trump was going to use the military 368 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: to overthrow democracy in the United States. The reality, based 369 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: on this Bob Woodward reporting, is that the military was 370 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: going to overthrow Donald Trump if they needed to, and 371 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: they weren't going to accede to their constitutional obligations to 372 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: allow the commander in chief to make decisions with the military. 373 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: And again this goes to the essence of what our 374 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: framers believed based on looking at history, and by the way, 375 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: it was a present and reality history that they were 376 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: living in. Napoleon not much time after our own revolution, 377 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: like many military generals before, had used the military to 378 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: stay j coup in France. This was the fear for 379 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: a long time in America that at some point a 380 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: powerful ruler who had military background would use the military 381 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: to overthrow existing civilian government. The reason why our commander 382 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: in chief is a civilian, even though he may have 383 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: had military experience, is expressly to make it clear that 384 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: the military serves at the behest and the request and 385 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: the command of the commander in chief. And what General 386 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: Millie is bragging about in this Woodward book is directly 387 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: contravening potentially the orders that are given to him by 388 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: his superior which is the exact opposite. Look, you had 389 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: all these Democrats excited that the only person to lose 390 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: their job over the Afghanistan debacle was the lieutenant colonel 391 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: who came out and said, this is a debacle. Our 392 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: military leaders failed us. He lost his job because he 393 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: spoke outside the chain of command in a public fashion 394 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: in his uniform. And look at what they were willing 395 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: to take action against, and I mean real action. When 396 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: Trump was president, they had the whole Russia collusion, which 397 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: was a fabrication. It was a lie. If that was 398 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory made real as a weapon in politics 399 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: by the media, the intelligence apparatus, which fortunately I know 400 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: too well having come from that world, and the Democrat 401 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Party all working together. The Hillary paid for dossier Russia Gate, 402 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: all of it together, and then it was we need 403 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: to impeach Trump because of conversations he had in the 404 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: framework of dealing with the publication real like public buck. 405 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: This is like they had transcripts of these. It is 406 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: not like a hidden conversation like Millie's. Well, no, but 407 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the ten instances of possible corruption that 408 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: they put in the Muller Report first and foremost, where 409 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: nothing actually happened, but it was just responses or people 410 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: testifying that there was some kind of a conversation that 411 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: they have involved interfering with a government process, essentially interfering 412 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: the investigation of Donald Trump himself, right that he was 413 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: intervening in a way that was improper. He didn't actually intervene, 414 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: didn't actually fire Molle, didn't do any of these things. 415 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: They impeached him Clay for that, and then to your point, 416 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: they impeached him again like the sociopaths that run the 417 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: Democrat Party are for a conversation about Hunter Biden corruption 418 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. That obviously was corruption. He was getting special 419 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: treatment because his daddy was VP, and yet they went 420 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: after him and they're going to look at this story 421 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: with Millie now and say not only Clay, is it 422 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: not treason, which is what you've been saying. And I 423 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: think you can certainly, I would say conspiracy to commit 424 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: treason might be what you could get away within a 425 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: court on this. They're gonna say he's a patriot, he's 426 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: a hero for stepping out in this way. That's the 427 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: same way that Afghanistan's a huge success, Clay. Don't you 428 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: see the pattern? Yeah, and this is where some people 429 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: get mad. But I look at this from a legal perspective, 430 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: and I want to apply the same precedence so that 431 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: whatever rule we apply now makes sense in the years ahead. 432 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: And we're gonna take a couple of your calls here 433 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: or a second, but just think about this for a minute, 434 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: whether or not you like Joe Biden. If Joe Biden 435 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: decided to undertake a military action and the head of 436 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: his military said, no, I refuse to do that, and 437 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to call our enemy and I'm going to 438 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: tell them what we are potentially going to do. So 439 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that's not right. The only case 440 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: could be okay would be if it was if it 441 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: was in response to a clearly unlawful order under UCMJ. 442 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: That's it. But there was no order here. This was 443 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: a make believe back channel. Oh, I'll get you the 444 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: information ahead of time because crazy, you know, crazy Orange 445 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: man bad might start a war with you guys. That 446 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: that's not a there's no illegal order too, that's just 447 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: defying the will of the commander in chief in advance. 448 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: That's just saying that I'm good at espionage to me, 449 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: and it's treason at the most espionage and minimal. And 450 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: and to your point, you can always get somebody for 451 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: a conspiracy. That's what we always said in criminal law 452 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: back in the day. We'll come back because we got 453 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: we got a bunch of veterans. Because I want to 454 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: hear from you. What what how can your copy? How 455 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: can you not get court martialed for this? If this 456 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: is true? I wonder, by the way, if Millie what 457 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna say about this. He hasn't been asked yet. 458 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if he's gonna say, Oh, I can't speak 459 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: about it at Oh, that's not true. 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Encourage all of you listening to us in 483 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: California to vote against, obviously the awful leadership of Gavin Newsom. 484 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: We will see what the impact is. If you look 485 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: at odds markets overseas, it appears that Gavin Newsom is 486 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: going to survive the recall. They've spent almost one hundred 487 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: million dollars trying to avoid him being recalled. But we 488 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: will see what happens there. We have been talking about 489 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: the I would say blockbuster revelation that General Millie may 490 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: have been calling China to let them know an advance 491 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: that he would not be executing the orders of Donald 492 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: Trump in the event that Trump decided that he needed 493 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: to do something of a military nature against China. And 494 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: we asked if you would call in if you are 495 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: a military veteran, as we have talked about espionage, treason 496 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: and related conspiracy charges that might be afoot here based 497 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: on this report, and what your reaction is as a 498 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: military veteran. Mike and Kentucky is up first. Mike, what 499 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: you got for us. Hey, guys, how you're doing. Great job. 500 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 1: By the way, thank you. I was in the I 501 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: was in the Multinational Force observers attached. That was an 502 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: infantry scout from nineteen delta tanker scout. People call us that. 503 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: But if I would have even mentioned my training on 504 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: a toe and Dragon missile, or that I could make 505 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: a clay more mine on my own with gunpowder, I 506 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: would have been sent to Leavenworth. So what's this guy doing? 507 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: So you agree it's a treasonable treasonous act and or 508 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: espionage from your perspective, let listen, the enemy is within. 509 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm deep I am deeply concerned with our nation, and 510 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: I pray for our troops and in our emergency to 511 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: now all those guys that are out there on the 512 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: front line, Our nurses, our doctors, all these people are 513 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: doing such a wonderful job and they are the real 514 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: heroes that opt to people in DC. Mike, thanks so much, 515 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: man for calling in from Kentucky. Appreciated. Joe in Texas 516 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: has some strong thoughts on this. What's up Joe, Hey, 517 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Hey doing sir? I'm go for a veteran and actually 518 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: was a military intelligence alice and one of the things 519 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: people got to realize. There's overt and covert intelligence, a 520 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: lot of what intelligence. It's like a snapshot of pictures, 521 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: so things like morale the enemy, how people are thinking. 522 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: We inbed CIA officers to work jobs in foreign countries 523 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: just to get the flavor of the population on how 524 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: how they feel about things. What could have happened is 525 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: he could have actually caused the war because now you 526 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: I guarantee you this general whoever he was talking to, 527 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: file a report, and the head guy who there saw it. 528 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: Everybody over there and the intelligence saw it. And what 529 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: if they what if that spot over there goes, well, 530 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: this is our chance to take Taiwan. If nothing else, 531 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: they're obviously messed up inside their highest ranks. Well maybe 532 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: we can get a hold of it before they can react. 533 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: This could have caused the war. Not only is it treason, 534 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: but it was intentional. It also strikes to me as 535 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: tremendously arrogant, as if Millie alone, speaking to his counterpart, 536 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: could be the one that stopped a war between the 537 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: US and China happening. Really really think about that for 538 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: a second. Oh they're gonna believe, he says, don't worry. 539 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: The attack is not coming, and they think it's coming, 540 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna believe, they're gonna take his word for it. 541 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just interesting. I feel like there's a 542 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: lot of this guy's got a very high by the way, 543 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: great call, Joe, thank you so much. This guy's got 544 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the internal dissension aspect here is big though. 545 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it for negotiations or anything else. 546 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, the American military doesn't even trust their commander, 547 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: by the way, that would normally be very like that. 548 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: That's the kind of information. It's high level thinking, very classified. Yeah, 549 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: knowing what like the Chinese People's Liberation Army leadership thinks 550 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: what their red lines are. That actually can often mean 551 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: depends on how the information is received, but that could 552 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: be very sensitive information in classified channels, depending And he's 553 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: just I mean, it's clay. It's just another one of 554 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: these mooing it's mind blowing. Patrick in Missouri, what do 555 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: you think, good job, guys, Millie's an embarrassment. Uh. The 556 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: Armed Services Committee needs to call him to their office, 557 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: to their chambers. My next phone call is to Josh 558 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: Holly and mil Blunt. All Missouri veterans need to call 559 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: those two and mandate that this happened. We're not even talking, 560 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: by the way, about his incredible failures in Afghanistan either, Buck, 561 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy has a litany of failures. At 562 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: this point, we're talking about potential trees and that we 563 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: didn't even know about beforehand. Patrick, Look, thank you so 564 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: much for calling in. And you know, this is where 565 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: we start to see people lose one talking about faith 566 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: in our institutions. Where it was told that, you know, 567 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: Trump was eroding faith in our institutions. Grotesque incompetence from 568 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: people who think they're more important than they are but 569 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: don't want to be held accountable for what they do 570 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: wrong at the top level of government agencies and institutions. 571 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: That undermines faith in the government. That makes people think, huh, 572 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't trust these people. I mean, I'm gonna 573 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: tell you, whenever this whole COVID madness ends, I'm never 574 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: gonna think of the CDC the same way. And I 575 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: think for a lot of people, I don't. I used 576 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: to work closely with FBI, folks. I can't think of 577 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: FBI the same way. After Muller, the probe and who's 578 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: the lanky unself conscious weirdo, you know Toomy thank you. Yes, yeah, 579 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: you know, I'm never gonna be got it. You're like, oh, yeah, 580 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: the unselfconscious weirdo who's like taking photos by the lake 581 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: and thinking that he's you know, yeah, some like great 582 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: roman orator in general because he's, you know, all of 583 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: a sudden orange Man bad. He was willing to worship 584 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: at the throne of Orange Man until he wasn't going 585 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: to be FBI director anymore. Then he was a hero 586 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: for the Republic, like so many of the others. Fasil. 587 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: We got somebody who's calling in who's from Afghanistan originally Fasil. 588 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: What's up in Virginia. Hey, thank you for taking my call. 589 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: My name is Sisile hot Mouth. I'm a US Army 590 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: war veteran. I think your service. Thank you. I moved 591 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: to the US in two thousand and six. I joined 592 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: the Army. I went back to Afghanistan. I served in 593 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: the uniform. I supported the Commander of Nature Training Mission Afghanistan. 594 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: I supported the director for operations that I have. I 595 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: also supported the Commander of Task Wars Transparency. So I 596 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: supported most of the genant officers at a Pausil we 597 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: have forty five seconds, but keep going, Roger. That and 598 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: the reason why I'm calling today is that as as 599 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: as the mainstream media is pivoting away from what's happening 600 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, think so not real the world in Afghanistan. 601 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: People like me who still have family in Afghanistan, they're 602 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: trying to get him out, but the system is somehow 603 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: not supporting. I have tried to get my family out 604 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan. Most of my previous commanders have tried to 605 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: get him out. When we have failed, I have spent 606 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: hours trying to get a hold of people at the USCIS. 607 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: They're not able to help. And I'm listening to their 608 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: Secretary of State trying to portray as a thing so 609 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: really doing world in Afghanistan. It's not, and he's lying, 610 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: and you know he's lying. Fathers, Well, thank you for 611 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: calling it. I'm sorry, we gotta cut of short. We're 612 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: at a show though today we'll talk more about Afghanistan tomorrow. 613 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk to all of you tomorrow. You're listening to 614 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the EIB Network