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Speaker 3: But jaymart how you doing, Buddy?

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Speaker 4: Doing well?

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Speaker 3: Happy sat doing well.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I appreciate what's happened in this first game

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Speaker 4: because it made it a lot easier to pay attention to.

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Speaker 2: Rest Oh Okay, I thought I was gonna say, it's

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Speaker 2: a lot easier to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Well we can do that too, but yeah, like just

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Speaker 4: just the fact that it kind of went in doubt,

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Speaker 4: oh STU made it easier not to have to pay

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Speaker 4: that close of attention to what was going on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, we will get to WrestleMania in a minute,

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Speaker 2: but I do think you know, I've been waffling back

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Speaker 2: and forth with should we lead with the Lakers or

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Speaker 2: wait until it goes final. I'll tell you there's still

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Speaker 2: two minutes on the clock, but it is just about

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Speaker 2: final Lakers as we speak. They just went to the

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Speaker 2: timeout or they just went to a timeout at about

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Speaker 2: the two minute mark of the fourth quarter. Minnesota one thirteen,

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers ninety two. Jay mart, you know I

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Speaker 2: must have missed this because I seem to remember everybody

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Speaker 2: handing the Los Angeles Lakers the NBA Championship in in

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Speaker 2: like early February, mid February. I think they won like

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Speaker 2: two games in a row after they traded for Luka Doncic,

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Speaker 2: and we just I thought we were just going to

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Speaker 2: cancel the season, but apparently the season went on, and

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Speaker 2: with two minutes left in Game one, the Lakers trail

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Speaker 2: by twenty one. It looks inevitable that the Minnesota Timberwolves

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Speaker 2: will get a one nothing lead win Game one in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. And again, we'll have plenty of time over

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Speaker 2: the next three hours to react to this. But your

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Speaker 2: first thoughts on a game in which the Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Lakers the first playoff appearance with Luka Doncic and Lebron

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Speaker 2: James by the way, one of the two rows to

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Speaker 2: the occasion, Luka Doncic with thirty seven points as we speak,

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Speaker 2: Lebron nineteen points on eight of eighteen, shooting one to

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Speaker 2: five from three. What's the take on Minnesota just walking

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Speaker 2: into LA and largely doing whatever they wanted against the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: especially after the first quarter. LA was up by seven

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Speaker 2: after the first quarter, so you can do the math.

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Speaker 2: It's been basically a blowout since then. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: Minnesota now under two minutes away from taking a one

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Speaker 2: to nothing serious lead.

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Speaker 4: All right, So I'll take a WrestleMania I'll just use

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Speaker 4: a WrestleMania term that some people listening will get. Pretty

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Speaker 4: much Minnesota decided they wanted to dog walk the Lakers,

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Speaker 4: and that's exactly what they've done in this game. All right.

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Speaker 4: So once you said the way, you kind of let

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Speaker 4: it out about how they were the champions and all this.

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Speaker 4: Everything they do is magnified, both positive and negative. The

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Speaker 4: NBA media, especially just the national media, is like biting

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Speaker 4: their fingernails, like, please don't let them lose, Please don't

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Speaker 4: let them lose this series because they need this to

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Speaker 4: be able to talk about this is a twenty three

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Speaker 4: point win. Let me just tell you how over reactive

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Speaker 4: everything is when it comes to the LA Lakers. I'm

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Speaker 4: looking right now at the four letter dot com. I'm

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Speaker 4: looking at ESPN dot com right now, and of course

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Speaker 4: the big splash screen is te Wolves one fifteen, Lakers

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Speaker 4: ninety two with one twenty one left. You can watch it.

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Speaker 4: I don't need to watch it. I've seen enough. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So the very first bullet point that was something that

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Speaker 4: was written earlier, either today or yesterday, is a is

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Speaker 4: an article with a question attached to it that is

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Speaker 4: what's behind this stifling, confusing, Lebron led Lakers defense. It's

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Speaker 4: one seventeen to ninety two in LA. This to me,

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Speaker 4: like I understand, yes, they've played better defense than people

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Speaker 4: this kind of stuff. But regardless of all of that,

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Speaker 4: this again just shows how easy it is to exaggerate

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Speaker 4: what's happening in front of you and blow it way

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Speaker 4: out of proportion like this right here. Doesn't mean they're

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Speaker 4: a bad defensive team, but I don't know that we

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Speaker 4: needed an article to talk about how great they were.

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Speaker 4: Either it's like you're trying to get ahead of this,

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Speaker 4: why don't you let it play out before you actually,

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Speaker 4: you know, crown anything or overdo it, like is this

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Speaker 4: series over? Of course it's not over. But the t

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Speaker 4: Wolves are a pretty good team, and they showed that

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Speaker 4: last year. They don't have Karl Anthony Towns. Maybe that

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Speaker 4: trade didn't end up working out in their favor, but

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Speaker 4: they still got Anthony Edwards. They've still got a lot

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Speaker 4: of talent on that floor, and they're gonna play hard,

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Speaker 4: They're gonna play physically, and the Lakers are gonna have

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Speaker 4: to beat them. And this was kind of an indication

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Speaker 4: that it might be harder because you saw it, Oh

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Speaker 4: Lakers in five against the Thunder. I think it, as

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Speaker 4: Shannon Sharp said, I know he's a Lakers honk and

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Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff, but it's just like everything

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Speaker 4: has to be one hundred miles an hour or zero.

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Speaker 4: Like then that's just not reality, Aaron, That's not how

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Speaker 4: things work. The Lakers have a lot to like. There's

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Speaker 4: a lot to like about the Lakers. There's a lot

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Speaker 4: of flaws too. There's reasons for you to think it's

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Speaker 4: ridiculous to act like they're gonna go win the championship

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Speaker 4: like it's it's preposterous at this level. So the te

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Speaker 4: Wolves putting up one seventeen on the road, you know,

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Speaker 4: and opening up this series leading it one nothing, only

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Speaker 4: means that they're up one nothing. But mark my words, Monday,

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Speaker 4: the sky is gonna be falling and everybody is going

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Speaker 4: to come out for their pound of flesh or to

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Speaker 4: defend to the hilt. Oh that this doesn't mean anything

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Speaker 4: as opposed to it just being in the middle where yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Lakers can get beat, and they can get beat

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Speaker 4: pretty soundly because there are some fundamental flaws in the

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Speaker 4: makeup of that basketball team.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean they're fundamental flaws that we literally

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Speaker 2: talked about the night that Luca got traded.

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Speaker 4: And that's right, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was so funny in real time to see the

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Speaker 2: reaction to that trade. And then you know, again, really

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Speaker 2: not so much the trade. The trade has been discussed

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Speaker 2: and rediscussed and overdiscussed. But I just remember saying when

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Speaker 2: everybody was crowning the Lakers in February, I said, well,

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Speaker 2: wait a second, now, I still don't understand the Luca

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Speaker 2: Donta trade. That's another conversation for another day. But he

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Speaker 2: did wear down in the finals last year from being

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Speaker 2: out of shape. And Lebron James, who is always, to

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Speaker 2: his credit even at forty years old in shape, is

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs as they've gone on deeper and deeper.

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Speaker 2: I always go back to that Western Conference finals two

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Speaker 2: was like every single game, it was like Lebron was

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Speaker 2: great in the first half, he just ran out of

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Speaker 2: gas in the second half because he was thirty eight

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Speaker 2: at the time. He's forty now. So yes, this team

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Speaker 2: has always been fundamentally flawed. I think what will be

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Speaker 2: interesting by the way you talk about defunning NBA media.

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Speaker 2: You talk about all of the you know, all of

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Speaker 2: the people that run to the hills to defend the

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Speaker 2: Lakers and prop up the Lakers and whatever. Here's what

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be curious about. Luc at it his part

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Speaker 2: tonight thirty seven points twelve of twenty two. Listen, we

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Speaker 2: get that Lebron's forty years old, but he is still

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, he's the biggest story. Every time he

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Speaker 2: steps on the floor, he's you know, I think we

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Speaker 2: all agree somewhere whatever to top ten players in the league.

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Speaker 2: Still nineteen points eight of eighteen from the field, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you can spin it anything other than

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Speaker 2: Lebron probably didn't do enough for them to win. I think,

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Speaker 2: by the way, two things can be true. One, this

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Speaker 2: is kind of why I have never really believed in

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, because you basically need a great night out

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Speaker 2: of them every single You need a great night out

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Speaker 2: of both Luca and Lebron every single night for two

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Speaker 2: straight months to win a title. But then two, I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna be curious, because you know we're going Lebron

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Speaker 2: was drafted in three. I have still yet to see

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Speaker 2: the scenario where Lebron has really taken the blame for

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Speaker 2: anything that happens in the playoffs. Maybe once or twice

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven NBA Finals when he kind of melted down, whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to see how people spin it.

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Speaker 2: Because he was not good enough tonight. If they are

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Speaker 2: going to win the title that everyone tried to hand

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Speaker 2: them in February, he's gonna need to do better than

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Speaker 2: nineteen points on eight of eighteen shooting from the field.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe they will come after him, because they

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Speaker 4: do come after him hard, just like they love on

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Speaker 4: him hard. They'd those that defend him will defend him

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Speaker 4: no matter what he does. Those that are the opposite

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Speaker 4: will do everything in their power to make sure that

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Speaker 4: this is magnified. On that level, the question is going

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Speaker 4: to be how do they react to Doncic's performance, because

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Speaker 4: he's kind of been the scapegoat, Like if you've watched

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Speaker 4: this since the trade, he's been a scapegoat this like

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Speaker 4: Kendrick Perkins and all these people that get paid a

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Speaker 4: to the effect of this is why Dallas didn't want him,

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Speaker 4: because he's out of shape, because he doesn't play defense. All,

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Speaker 4: what are you gonna say, he had thirty seven points.

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Speaker 4: That's what Luka Doncic does. He goes out there and

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Speaker 4: he scores, and he makes clutch buckets for you, and

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Speaker 4: he puts you in a position to win just about

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Speaker 4: every game. That's why he was in the NBA Finals

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Speaker 4: a year ago. Nico. So you look at all of that,

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Speaker 4: you can't you can't put this on him, like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they gave up a one to seventeen. Yeah, Luca teams

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Speaker 4: probably give up one to seventeen an awful lot. He's

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Speaker 4: not a defensive stalwart. He's never gonna be an all

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Speaker 4: defensive player. That's not what he does. You have to

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Speaker 4: surround him with guys that play defense and let him

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Speaker 4: be Luka Doncic. You have to build a team around him,

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Speaker 4: and that's the problem. This team has been built around

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Speaker 4: Lebron James, not around Luka Doncic. So when you look

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Speaker 4: at it from that perspective, the absence of Anthony Davis

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Speaker 4: gets magnified in LA and Luka Doncic can't cover for

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Speaker 4: what Anthony Davis used to do. So your point about

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Speaker 4: both of them have to be good. They both have

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Speaker 4: to be good, and Austin Reeves has to be pretty

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Speaker 4: good like for them to be able to win in

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Speaker 4: most cases. And yes, like Donovan Mitchell and Various Garland

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Speaker 4: are not good, then the Cavs are not gonna win.

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Speaker 4: If Sga isn't good, then the thunder aren't gonna win.

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Speaker 4: I understand all of those kinds of things, but there

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Speaker 4: is still not a whole lot of depth on this

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Speaker 4: they may full well win the series. It's gonna be

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Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be a fairly lengthy series. I just

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Speaker 4: think that everybody needs to hit the Brakes's not we

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Speaker 4: don't need to accelerate to the finish line on the

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Speaker 4: first lap. There's a long road to get to a championship.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of talent on that Lakers side, and

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Speaker 2: It will be fascinating to watch the Minnesota Timberwolves a

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Speaker 4: that's what you expect the higher seed to do at home,

431
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Speaker 4: to pull that kind of move, and that's exactly what

432
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Speaker 4: they did. They just they had more in the tank

433
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Speaker 4: down the stretch, all right.

434
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Speaker 2: So let's start with the first one. Clippers do lose

435
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Speaker 2: to Denver one twelve one ten in overtime. Obviously the

436
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Speaker 2: end of regulation. Westbrook hits the three then has the

437
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 2: weird sort of turnover, Ish doesn't get the shot Emmanuel

438
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Speaker 2: Sharpen the Final four like it was whatever. Let me

439
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Speaker 2: ask you this, It does feel like, certainly of the

440
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Speaker 2: four games that we got like it has the chance

441
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Speaker 2: to be the most entertaining of all the series. My

442
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Speaker 2: question for you Clippers fifty wins. Well, both these teams

443
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: were fifty win teams. But Clippers win fifty games. Why

444
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Speaker 2: am I to believe that this year is going to

445
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Speaker 2: be different? And I don't want to be like mister

446
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 2: negativity on day one they've been playing well, I get it.

447
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard played forty one minutes in Game one. I

448
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: hope I'm wrong. Just to be clear, nobody ever roots

449
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Speaker 2: for injuries. But at the same time, Kawhi every single

450
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: year seems like he's ready for the playoffs and then

451
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Speaker 2: some kind of weird injury happens. James Harden, we've seen

452
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Speaker 2: him in big spots in the playoffs. Is it like,

453
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Speaker 2: do you actually feel like this could be different or

454
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Speaker 2: is this just gonna be kind of same old Clippers?

455
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Speaker 2: And I think, more specifically to me, it's not even

456
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Speaker 2: same old Clippers. It's I've seen Kawhi. He hasn't been

457
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Speaker 2: able to make it through a playoff since twenty nineteen.

458
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Speaker 2: I've seen James Harden. He melts down every big moment

459
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Speaker 2: in a deciding game, basically in his career. I just

460
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: don't like it's hard for me, with those two guys

461
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Speaker 2: well on the other side of thirty at this point,

462
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Speaker 2: to believe that this year is somehow going to be

463
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Speaker 2: different than pretty much every other year of their careers

464
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Speaker 2: that I've watched.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the right take to have.

466
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Speaker 4: Is there a feasible universe where this could be different? Yes,

467
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Speaker 4: But is there any reason to put one cent on that?

468
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Speaker 4: Of course not. I think Cardon's been better in an

469
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Speaker 4: LA Clippers uniform than I ever thought he was going

470
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Speaker 4: to be when he got there. He still got his

471
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Speaker 4: off nights, but he still shows that there's some things

472
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Speaker 4: left in the tank there. Kawhi, you know, Kawhi is Kawhi.

473
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Speaker 4: Kawhi has won an NBA Championship before, probably wouldn't have

474
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Speaker 4: minus some injuries, but he won it, and he was

475
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Speaker 4: the guy that made it possible. And so you know

476
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Speaker 4: what he is capable of doing, but you just as

477
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Speaker 4: much understand what he's capable of not doing. Which is

478
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Speaker 4: playing because of availability issues and all those kinds of things.

479
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Speaker 4: There's no reason whatsoever to look at that Clippers team

480
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Speaker 4: and say, yes, this one's going to be different. I

481
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Speaker 4: like their coaching staff, I do like the talent on

482
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Speaker 4: the floor. I don't know about the depth. I mean,

483
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Speaker 4: and of course you know you got Ben Simmons on.

484
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Speaker 2: Your BET's that's that's st playoff points?

485
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Speaker 3: Is here Ben Simmons or Brownie James games?

486
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Ooh Bryce James may have more points? Ooh yeah,

487
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Speaker 4: So no, I don't. I don't think they can win.

488
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Speaker 4: I don't. I there's but there's enough talent for them

489
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Speaker 4: to win. Yes, and you saw it. I mean if

490
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Speaker 4: you can go toe to toe with the Nuggets on

491
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Speaker 4: the road like they did, and I mean they really

492
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Speaker 4: had the opportunity to win that game, just weren't able

493
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Speaker 4: to complete it. And maybe this is kind of gonna

494
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Speaker 4: be their their best shot at it and they needed

495
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Speaker 4: to win this one to be able to get through

496
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Speaker 4: this series. But yeah, I've said before and it still

497
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Speaker 4: hasn't changed. Until James Harden wins, I'm not going to

498
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Speaker 4: believe that he can. Like he's gonna have to do

499
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Speaker 4: it once for me to then think he can do

500
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Speaker 4: it twice because he hasn't done it once yet, not

501
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, not in a crucial situation, and that's

502
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Speaker 4: what it's gonna come down to in this series. And

503
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Speaker 4: I just there's not what confidence could you possibly have?

504
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Speaker 4: Would be my take?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's it's funny because I'm generally the type

506
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Speaker 2: of person that says, just because something hasn't been done

507
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it can't be. But when your best

508
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Speaker 2: player is thirty six years old, James Harden will be

509
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: thirty six in just a couple months, and Kawhi Leonard

510
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Speaker 2: is thirty three, will be thirty four in June, it's like,

511
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Speaker 2: I just we have and not all with the Clippers,

512
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: but but you know those two guys, Kawhi can't stay

513
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: healthy and James Harden doesn't show up in the moments

514
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Speaker 2: that matter in the playoffs.

515
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Speaker 3: So I guess I just have my doubts.

516
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Speaker 2: Denver, obviously, you and I we spent a lot of

517
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Speaker 2: time talking about the Mike Malone situation a few days

518
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Speaker 2: ago or last week when we were on air. They

519
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: have quietly won four straight with him. Is that with

520
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: Adamman as the head coach. Has anything changed?

521
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Speaker 3: Is it just to me?

522
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Speaker 2: Like the thing with Denver is I mean, they were

523
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: still a very good team. Obviously we discussed the reasons

524
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Speaker 2: that we believe Mike Malone was fired, but I think

525
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Speaker 2: the thing that stands out, I know they felt like

526
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Speaker 2: they had to make a change. I still think this

527
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Speaker 2: team and it's you look at again. We talked about

528
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Speaker 2: kind of the Lakers not having those guys well Jokic.

529
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Speaker 3: Twenty nine to nine and twelve.

530
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Speaker 2: Today, Jamal Murray twenty one points, Aaron Gordon twenty five,

531
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Speaker 2: Michael Porter only had three, and they still win the

532
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Speaker 2: game in overtime. I still think despite all the drama,

533
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: despite the coaching stuff, there's still a really good team.

534
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: And again, you don't want to overreact to a win,

535
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: just like you don't want to overreact to.

536
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Speaker 3: A loss for the Clippers of the Lakers.

537
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, I still do really really like

538
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Speaker 2: this team, even with all the kind of chaos with

539
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Speaker 2: the coaching situation.

540
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, and I mean I think

541
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Speaker 4: that that's the move. Like the reason why the move

542
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: was made when it was is because ownership believed that

543
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Speaker 4: there was still something The salvage here. There was no

544
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Speaker 4: reason to just cash it in for the season and

545
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Speaker 4: then make the move in the offseason. It was we

546
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Speaker 4: still got a shot here. We still believe the West

547
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Speaker 4: is winnable, We still believe the NBA title is winnable

548
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Speaker 4: because we have Jokic and you know when Murray and

549
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 4: Gordon and Porter Junior on and of course now Brawn's

550
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: gonna get more minutes because Malone didn't seem to want

551
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: to play him very much here in this game he

552
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 4: had forty five compared to Russell Westbrook's thirty four, for example.

553
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, this is a team that has

554
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Speaker 4: a lot of guys on it that have won a

555
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: championship that know what that feels like. And so you

556
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 4: look at that, and we just had that discussion about

557
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 4: the Clippers and why would this be any different, Well,

558
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: it's the same thing, Like why would it be any

559
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: different for the Nuggets being pretty competitive, Like they're almost

560
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: always going to be pretty competitive. And so the move

561
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: was made because all right, let's just let's just change,

562
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: let's change the atmosphere into building and let's go for

563
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: broke here, like we're not going it's not gonna get

564
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: worse if we don't win. We don't win. We don't

565
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: think we can win based on the toxicity in the building.

566
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Speaker 4: So let's try to clean out the building. Let's bring

567
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: in a roade, routerer, Let's bring in whoever it is

568
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: to get things moving again, and we'll see, Like, if

569
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: we don't win, that's the worst thing. But we weren't

570
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 4: gonna win anyway our own estimation. So I think that's

571
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: what it is. And so we'll see what is this

572
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 4: Nuggets team gonna look like throughout this postseason? Is it

573
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: gonna look any different? I don't know that it has

574
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: had time to look markedly different. But if these guys

575
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: are actually enjoying coming to work again because the environment

576
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 4: and the infighting between the general manager and the head

577
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: coach is no longer an issue, then maybe that's going

578
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: to reflect in just a little bit more fluidity, a

579
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: little bit more chemistry, a little bit more optimism, a

580
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: little more positivity, that kind of thing in the building,

581
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Speaker 4: and maybe that gives them a better chance really quickly.

582
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Speaker 2: Nicks uh one twenty three, one twelve, twenty one nothing run.

583
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Speaker 2: The Pistons were yead ninety eight ninety. The Pistons were

584
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Speaker 2: up twenty one nothing run. Brunson was awesome. You know,

585
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Speaker 2: I thought Carl Anthony Towns, you know, he's been kind

586
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: of a guy that kind of hangs out around the

587
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: premier and shoots threes in his career. I thought he

588
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: came up with some big rebounds. It was actually Campaign

589
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: who had a bunch of big shots in.

590
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Speaker 3: The fourth quarter. You know, I don't know what the

591
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: take is, is it?

592
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Speaker 2: You know, the Knicks have the playoff moxie that the

593
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: Pistons don't.

594
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

595
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: I just know that in kind of the spots that matter,

596
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: the Knicks were forcing turnovers. The Knicks were making big shots.

597
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: I love Kate Cunningham, but you know, a couple of

598
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: calls didn't go his way. He's throwing up his hands.

599
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: Knicks pull away for a eleven point victory. Again, they

600
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: trailed ninety eight to ninety and went on a twenty

601
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Speaker 2: one to nothing fourth quarter run.

602
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Speaker 4: Look, the Pistons are a great story this year. They

603
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 4: haven't been talked about enough. They're just they're on a

604
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: they're on the right pathway. They're doing some of the

605
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: right things to get there someday. But that's the key point.

606
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: They're not there now. The Knicks are there now. The

607
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: Knicks are a good basketball team that's used to playing together,

608
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: that's gotten increasingly comfortable as this season has moved along,

609
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: and this is what they should do. They should beat

610
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: the Detroit Pistons. The Pistons didn't embarrass themselves here, they

611
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: just weren't able to finish this game. This may be

612
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: the best performance you see from them in this series,

613
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: because that probably hurt them pretty badly to have this

614
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: thing in the palm of their hands where they're up

615
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: eight to nine points to open the fourth quarter or

616
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Speaker 4: whatever it was, and then you turn around and you

617
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Speaker 4: look up, and then you give up twenty one in

618
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Speaker 4: a row. And the Knicks are going to be capable

619
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Speaker 4: of doing that against just about anybody because of the

620
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Speaker 4: way that they play. I don't think this is likely

621
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Speaker 4: to be a lengthy series, but I think at this

622
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Speaker 4: point Detroit fans don't want to hear this, but you're

623
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Speaker 4: playing with house money. I mean the fact that you're

624
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: over five hundred. You're not a laughing stock. This is

625
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: exactly what you should be hoping for from that team.

626
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: And look when you look up and the veteran on

627
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Speaker 4: this team, the guy that is used to being in

628
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: big games like this is Tobias Harris, and you're in

629
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: trouble because that guy has done a whole lot of

630
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Speaker 4: losing in the playoffs throughout much of his career and

631
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: keeps getting paid either way. I agree with you. I

632
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: like Kay Cunningham and he's going to continue to get better.

633
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: This is about the future for Detroit right now is

634
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: the present for the New York Knicks. That's what they

635
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: did in the offseason, is what they set themselves up

636
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: to do, and this is what you expect from them

637
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: to do. Even when they got down, they still had

638
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: the firepower to come back.

639
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Speaker 2: Bucks, of course lose to the Pacers' final game of

640
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: the day. Tell you what, though, we have waited long enough,

641
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: we got to bring in the third member of our

642
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: team first time this evening. Steve Disaga, my friend, what

643
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: is trending?

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00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 4: Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: All the NBA and NHL playoff openers are done, and

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Speaker 6: the late game in baseball apparently is about done. As

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Speaker 6: San Francisco leads three to two at the Angels with

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Speaker 6: two outs bottom of the ninth Halos with a runner

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Speaker 6: at second, Mike Trout with two home runs tonight he

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Speaker 6: flew out deep to lead off the ninth. The Minnesota

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Speaker 6: win over the Lakers in LA was one seventeen to

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Speaker 6: ninety five. Anthony Edwards twenty two points, eight rebounds, nine

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Speaker 6: AUSI is just one turnover. New York would that twenty

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Speaker 6: one zero run second half and beat Detroit one twenty

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Speaker 6: three to one twelve. Jalen Brunson thirty four points. Indiana

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Speaker 6: down Milwaukee with these one seventeen to ninety eight despite

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Speaker 6: thirty six points from Jannis Antennacumpo and Denver led the Clippers.

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Speaker 6: Trailed the Clippers, I should say by fifteen in the

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Speaker 6: first half, wound up beating the Clips in overtime one twelve,

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Speaker 6: one ten, leading one game to none in the first round,

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Speaker 6: best of seven to the NHL Playoffs. Two games tonight

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Speaker 6: to open the Stanley Cup postseason, Winnipeg, with three goals

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Speaker 6: in the third period, defeated Saint Louis five to three.

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Speaker 6: Colorado a five to one winner at Dallas. That game

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Speaker 6: was two to one with about seven minutes to go.

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Speaker 6: The New York Rangers fired coach Peter Lavia led after

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Speaker 6: missing the playoffs. Anaheim fired coach Greg Cronin. As for

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Speaker 6: Major League Baseball, Atlanta beat Minnesota four to three. The

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Speaker 6: A's were three to one winners at Milwaukee. They just

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Speaker 6: finished in Anaheim. Giants do win three to two over

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Speaker 6: the Angels, so everything's vital. Tampa Bay on a walkoff

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Speaker 6: homer in the tenth down the Yankees ten to eight.

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Speaker 6: This is after four runs in the bottom of the

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Speaker 6: ninth by the Rays to tie the game against Yankees'

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Speaker 6: new closer Devin Williams. Boston in ten innings edged the

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Speaker 6: White Sox four to three. White Sox have lost six straight.

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Speaker 6: Seattle won in twelve innings at Toronto, eight to four.

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Speaker 6: Washington won twelve eleven at Colorado. It was twelve to

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Speaker 6: two in the seventh inning. Philadelphia won eleven to ten

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Speaker 6: over Miami, which has lost five straight. Marlin's got six

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Speaker 6: runs top of the ninth to get close. Texas, in

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Speaker 6: a Great Ballgame on Fox TV, edged the Dodgers four

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Speaker 6: to three on a two run homer bottom of the

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Speaker 6: ninth by Adolas Garcia, and the losing pitcher was the

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Speaker 6: Rangers All Star closer last year, Kirby Yates. Baltimore hit

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Speaker 6: five home runs and down Cincinnati nine to five. Wins

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Speaker 6: for the Mets and the Cubs Detroit and Cleveland with victories.

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Speaker 6: Guardians a three to nothing win at Pittsburgh, beating Paul Skeins,

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Speaker 6: who did pitch seven innings just two runs allowed. But

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Speaker 6: Skeens is two and two. Season NASCAR off tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Back to you. Thank you very much, Steve Sager.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna switch gears.

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Speaker 2: NBA playoffs weren't the only big event of Saturday, wrestle Mania.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna let JAMRT get us caught up on everything

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Speaker 2: we missed at WrestleMania. Quick Break WrestleMania Next, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Insider Jay Glazer, former Jets GM Joe Douglas, college Football

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Speaker 2: Football reporter Jenny Taft. We'll have you covered for all

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Speaker 2: thirty two picks with predictions and reactions. That's Thursday, eight

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern through the first round of the draft live

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Speaker 2: on right here on Fox Sports Radio. And also remember

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Speaker 2: live video simulcast on the Fox Sports Radio YouTube page.

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Speaker 2: Brought to you by Dollar Shave Club. NBA Playoffs are final.

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Speaker 2: NHL Playoffs are final four Saturday for NBA results, the Pacers,

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Speaker 2: the Knicks, the Nuggets in overtime, and the Lakers win.

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Speaker 2: There are excuse me, the Timberwolves win Game one. NBA

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Speaker 2: Playoffs not the only big event on Saturday, WrestleMania at

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Speaker 2: Allegiance Stadium in Loss Vegas. J Mart worked for the

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Speaker 2: WWE four years. J Mart, I'm basically gonna give you

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Speaker 2: the floor here to tell us what happened at WrestleMania

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Speaker 2: what we need to know. I know there's a huge

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Speaker 2: audience that loves this stuff. Not my area of expertise,

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Speaker 2: but I know it is yours. The floor is yours,

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Speaker 2: my friend, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: All right? Correction didn't work for WWE worked in pro

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Speaker 4: wrestling for many, many years. Just to throw it out

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Speaker 4: there anyway, UJIT Stadium, I think sixty one thousand is

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Speaker 4: selling it out. That's what they claimed was sixty one

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Speaker 4: for I think, but as of Saturday morning they were

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Speaker 4: setting up for a fifty seven thousand max. So they

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Speaker 4: probably padded that by about four thousand. They probably put

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Speaker 4: about fifty seven thousand into it. Still a really nice crowd. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to spoil it because if you haven't

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Speaker 4: seen it yet, you probably still want to. It's all

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Speaker 4: about the main event. It's all about the triple threat

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Speaker 4: match with Rowland, Rain, Seam Punkin, seth Rawlins, and that's

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Speaker 4: all basically coming down to where does Paul Hayman aligne

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Speaker 4: And so I will say this that's worth your time.

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Speaker 4: Is a very very just good match. The only real

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Speaker 4: problem with it is that because you are waiting to

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Speaker 4: see the alignment, anything that happens before Hayman gets involved,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to buy. So the idea of

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Speaker 4: a false finish is kind of completely erased until that point.

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Speaker 4: I know, I'm just speaking hieroglyphics right now, a foreign

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Speaker 4: language to you erin, but throwing that out there for

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Speaker 4: those that understand kind of where I'm coming from. But

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Speaker 4: either way, it was gonna be made or broken by

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Speaker 4: that match, and that match was excellent, and it had

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Speaker 4: a finish that's gonna last and lead to a whole

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Speaker 4: lot of things in the future, as we kind of

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Speaker 4: thought that it would. Overall, though it's a two night event,

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Speaker 4: of course, there's an entire you know, another six matches,

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Speaker 4: including the big one with Cody Rhodes and John Cena

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Speaker 4: to come on Sunday night. But overall, kind of a

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Speaker 4: forgettable night. Not a bad show, just not a tremendously

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Speaker 4: memorable show. Like when you think about the matches on

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Speaker 4: this show, you're gonna remember that main event, and that's

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Speaker 4: really about it. I thought Tiffany Stratton and Charlotte was

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Speaker 4: a fine match, but not anything spectacular. I even thought

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Speaker 4: guth and jay Uso, even though the moment itself afterwards

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Speaker 4: was very well done and the fans really enjoyed it,

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Speaker 4: that match was It was a very good match, but

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Speaker 4: there was nothing particularly memorable about that match. So there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of room for them on Sunday to surpass

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Speaker 4: what they did on Saturday. But weirdly enough, on paper,

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Speaker 4: the Saturday lineup looked stronger. So we'll see what they do.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're gonna have some surprises. You expect that there

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Speaker 4: are gonna be a couple of things that pop off

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Speaker 4: tomorrow that maybe you weren't planning to see. Maybe you're

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Speaker 4: gonna see the return of Becky Lynch tomorrow. That's a possibility.

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Speaker 4: With the Bayway injury angle that they shot before the

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Speaker 4: show tonight. Steve Austin is in Vegas. We know that

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Speaker 4: because he was inducted into the Hall of Fame for

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Speaker 4: his match with Brett Hart. Does he get involved in

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Speaker 4: the main event? If the Rock gets involved in the

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Speaker 4: main event, do they do something there and try to

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Speaker 4: bring that nostalgia back? And then you have Randy Orton

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Speaker 4: doing an open challenge, and there's some guys that have

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Speaker 4: not actually debuted back on TV that they have re signed.

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Speaker 4: One of them is Alistair Black, but he will show

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Speaker 4: up on Friday SmackDown, I believe. But Russeph is a

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Speaker 4: guy that could potentially answer that challenge, or they can

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Speaker 4: keep it safe and be solo. So CoA. But so

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Speaker 4: if I'm trying to rank Saturday Show main events off

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Speaker 4: the charts, you got to watch that if you're a

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Speaker 4: wrestling fan at all. Everything else, I thought it was decent.

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Speaker 4: It was fine, maybe a seven out of ten, somewhere

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Speaker 4: in that neighborhood. I expect Sunday Show to probably be

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Speaker 4: better from starting to finish. This one was a little

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Speaker 4: bit of a slog with an all time great kind

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Speaker 4: of main event with an incredible angle to finish it off.

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Speaker 4: So that's why you would watch. And that's your WrestleMania review.

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Speaker 2: There you go, WrestleMania Night two, Sunday, Allegiance Stadium from

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. But one story in a busy week of sports.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which, a busy week NFL Draft. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: NBA playoff games are in the books. Sure you know

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Speaker 2: by now, but Indiana takes care of the Milwaukee Bucks early,

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Speaker 2: Denver beats the Clippers in overtime, The New York Knicks,

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Speaker 2: thanks to a twenty one nothing run in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: two point win over the Los Angeles Lakers in Game one.

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Speaker 2: Talk to NBA Playoffs in hour one. We will get

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Speaker 2: back to it in just a moment. But NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, and by the way, if you've missed it,

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Speaker 2: we will have coverage first round, Jay Glazer, LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 2: Jenny Taft and of course, on top of that, Joe

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Speaker 2: Douglas with our coverage live from Green Bay simulcast on

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. So we appreciate everybody

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Speaker 2: who's gonna tune in. We're gonna have great coverage, Like

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Speaker 2: I said, first round and tirety of the first round,

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Speaker 2: Jay Glazer, Joe Douglas, LeVar Arrington, and Jenny Taft. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of the draft, j Mart, it is Thursday, first round.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I have some like kind of like conversational questions.

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Speaker 2: But is there any big picture thing that you kind

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Speaker 2: of want to lead off with? I mean, we talked

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Speaker 2: a little bit about Shador last week. I'll say this,

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Speaker 2: it feels like outside of Shador, doesn't feel like there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of meat on this this draft bone obviously

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Speaker 2: the Travis Hunter he played both ways, won't he But

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Speaker 2: it kind of feels like, Okay, we know cam Ward's

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Speaker 2: going one. I think at this point it feels pretty

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Speaker 2: obvious that well maybe it's not obvious, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think the Browns are going quarterback at two. So is

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Speaker 2: that Abdul Carter is a Travis Hunter?

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Speaker 3: Whatever?

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Speaker 2: And then really, outside of Shdor, it feels like there

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Speaker 2: aren't a ton of storylines.

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Speaker 3: Now, storylines will emerge on Draft night.

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Speaker 2: They always do, but anything really stand out to you

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Speaker 2: about this draft outside of the obvious, or or maybe

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Speaker 2: it is the obvious that we just need to discuss

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Speaker 2: a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it really And we talked

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Speaker 4: about this a few weeks ago that the reason Shador

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Speaker 4: keeps coming up is because there isn't much else. Yep,

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Speaker 4: And you think about it, it's kind of an odd

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Speaker 4: feeling because the draft is Thursday, and usually you just

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Speaker 4: feel like you've been drafted to death. It's just ad

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Speaker 4: nauseaum for week after week after week. We talk about

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Speaker 4: it a ton. Every show talks about it a ton.

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Speaker 4: We get deep in the weeds and all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's just not that way this year, Like it doesn't

858
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 4: feel like we're ready for the draft yet. But that's

859
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: not the case. Like the reason why is just because

860
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: the intrigue right now is just kind of it's just

861
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 4: kind of lacking. Like there's the Chadure story and that's

862
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: kind of it, Like you sort of know, like I'm

863
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: looking at these at the top ten picks and it's

864
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 4: just like, well, what are they gonna do? What are

865
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 4: they gonna do? We still got the Aaron Rodgers thing

866
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 4: hanging out there. Is that gonna be a storyline? What's

867
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 4: going to emerge in a couple of days before the

868
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: draft and who's gonna get drafted, it's gonna make an

869
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: established star blank and things like that. I think there

870
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: may be some storylines coming out of the draft, but

871
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 4: entering the draft, it really is just where is Shador

872
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: Sanders gonna land? And I know we talked about this

873
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: prior to the show this afternoon, you're kind of bouncing

874
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 4: around a few things. You know, are there a couple

875
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 4: of guys that are being talked about that probably don't

876
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: need to be and won't be again in the same

877
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 4: fashion as soon as the draft comes around, Like there's

878
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 4: names that seem like they're being manufactured right now because

879
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 4: of a dearth of like reality, like we have to

880
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: create something else. So we're going to talk about X

881
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 4: and we're going to talk about why when this really

882
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: is just about Shador. Because there's no question at the

883
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: top that cam Ward is going to Tennessee. Like there's

884
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 4: no question at all. And I think we've known it since,

885
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: you know, the free agency and all those things opened

886
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: up and what the Titans did and did not do,

887
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 4: it made it pretty obvious what they are going to

888
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: do unless they get an insane haul, which isn't going

889
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: to happen. So that takes a little bit of this

890
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 4: sting out and so the next thing you talk about

891
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: is the second quarterback on the board, and there you

892
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 4: just kind of don't know. Although I still don't think

893
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 4: he's getting out of the top ten, so.

894
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't either. We'll get back to Shador in a second.

895
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: But instead of talking about the second quarterback off the board,

896
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: let's talk about the third quarterback off the board. Yeah, yeah, right,

897
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: and in all seriousness, because you know, I think there

898
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: are some years where like we talk about a lot,

899
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: like like you go back to last year, we talked

900
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: about all these quarterbacks, but it felt like, Okay, Michael

901
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: Pennix is going in the first round. But forget k

902
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: Lob and Jadon Daniels. We knew they were going early.

903
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: Like Michael Pennix, were talking about him a lot, But

904
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: he's gonna go in the first round. Is he gonna

905
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: go to Atlanta? Nobody obviously had that projected, But he's

906
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: gonna go in the first round. Bow Knicks, he's gonna

907
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: go in the first round. And I remember even talking

908
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: to you because it felt like the night of the draft,

909
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: people tried to make it into wow, did bow Knicks

910
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: go to Hot It's like we knew all these teams

911
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: needed quarterbacks. We knew they were all coming off the board.

912
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: It didn't feel surprising to me. What I'll say is this,

913
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: I think there have also been years past where we

914
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: try to create narratives around quarterbacks that don't exist. Will

915
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: Levis a few years ago. You know, listen, you and

916
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: I are certainly not the only ones that said it,

917
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: but we did say it. There was nothing watching will

918
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: Levis in his time in college that made you feel

919
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: like he was a first round pick. You go back

920
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: years and you know, I think about.

921
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait you want how about just a few

922
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 4: years ago, same team, I covered him daily, So I

923
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: remember this Malik Willis great call. Remember the hype about

924
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 4: Malik Willis and where Malik Willis was actually drafted, Like

925
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: is this guy gonna go top five? Is he gonna

926
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: go top ten? Is he even gonna go on Day two? Guys?

927
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: Because it turned out it was a way later than

928
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 4: we were told it was gonna be.

929
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: Well, so let's talk about it. My bold draft prediction.

930
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: We're spending all this time talking about Jackson Dart. We're

931
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: spending all and maybe it's not bold, all this time

932
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: talking about Jackson Dart, all this time talking about Jaylen Milroe. Apparently,

933
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 2: now we're in the draft news cycle where we're talking

934
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: about Tyler Shuck, a soon to be twenty six year

935
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,919
Speaker 2: old quarterback who had I believe, and I'm not trying

936
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: to be meant about it, it's just a fact. I think

937
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: he had three to four season ending injuries. Started playing

938
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: college football in twenty eighteen. Actually, turn on a TV

939
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: show this week that said, is Tyler Shuck a franchise quarterback?

940
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: Let me let me give you a preview. No, he's not.

941
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So my bold NFL prediction. We talk quarterbacks because

942
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: it's obviously the most interesting and important position in sports.

943
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: I think it's all for nothing. I think we're getting

944
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks. To your point, I think Schador is going

945
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: into the top ten and we can get back to

946
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: Shaudor in a minute. I think Schor is going in

947
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: the top ten and I don't. By the way, you

948
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: know another good example of this. Remember Kenny Pickett. Oh

949
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: you know Kenny Pickett, and he ended up going twenty one.

950
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: I think I think that was the Malik Willis draft.

951
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, there you go.

952
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: So my prediction is we get two quarterbacks in the

953
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: top ten, none other. Maybe Jackson Dart sneaks into the

954
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 2: back half of the first round.

955
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't think Jalen Milroe is a first round pick.

956
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: I certainly don't think Tyler Shuck is a first round pick.

957
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on QB number three in this draft?

958
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: Jmark about where you do? I think Jackson Dhart doesn't

959
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: go BEFO twenty five at the earliest. Maybe he doesn't

960
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: even get in the first round. We will see. Let

961
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 4: me tell you, I don't think Jackson Dart thinks so either.

962
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: And the reason why is because he's pulled out of

963
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: being in Green Bay for the drafting. The fact that

964
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: he was going to be one of the guys that

965
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 4: was going to be in a green room. It doesn't

966
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: necessarily mean it, but I just read I read that,

967
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 4: and I say to myself, Jackson Dart doesn't want the

968
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: possibility of that not going his way. Sure, and like

969
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: we know he's gonna get drafted, he's going to get

970
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 4: an opportunity in the league. There's no reason to subject

971
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: yourself to that when it's not a given. But yeah,

972
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: we're trying, We're trying to create something around Dart. We're

973
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 4: trying to create something around Schuck. We're trying to create

974
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: something around this it position because this draft just doesn't

975
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: have it. It has cam Ward, who we all want

976
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 4: to see what he's going to be able to do

977
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: in the pros, and we know he is the best

978
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 4: quarterback prospect in this draft bar none, and then you

979
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 4: have kind of the only meat on that bonus shade

980
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 4: or so here comes Jackson Dart out of nowhere. Not

981
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 4: that he didn't do anything at Ole Miss or whatever

982
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: like that, but like Jackson Dart was exactly the example

983
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: of the guy that wasn't being talked about it all

984
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 4: before the season when it came to NFL prospect, this

985
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 4: guy's gonna be an absolute stud, all of this kind

986
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 4: of stuff, and then by the end of the year

987
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: we've talked ourselves into this, and usually that doesn't work

988
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 4: out for that person. But in this case, I think

989
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 4: it'll be fine because I don't think that you're getting

990
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 4: a Zach Wilson move here. I don't think you're getting

991
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: a guy it's gonna be drafted into top ten or

992
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: the top fifteen and all this. I think it'll be

993
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: fine because he's probably gonna sit on the bench for

994
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: a few years, and if he's gonna get his opportunity,

995
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 4: he's not gonna be forced into action immediately. He's gonna

996
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: be drafted by somebody to be a backup most likely.

997
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: So And in terms of Shuck, I mean he'll go

998
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 4: on Day two, I guess, but I don't even know

999
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: if you will go in the second round. I don't

1000
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: know if he's gonna be maybe into triple digits or

1001
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: somewhere in that neighborhood. I think that there's gonna be

1002
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 4: a a lot of teams are going to be hesitant

1003
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: to use a very high draft pick on either one

1004
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 4: of those guys because they're probably just like well, I mean,

1005
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: we could probably get them later, and if we can't,

1006
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: are they that much better than the other quarterbacks that

1007
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 4: we could potentially get later in this draft. I don't

1008
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 4: see a franchise in Jackson Dart. I don't see a

1009
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 4: franchise in Shuck. I don't see a franchise. I mean, possibly,

1010
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: but I don't really see a franchise in Shadur. So, like,

1011
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: are team's going to wager the form on question marks?

1012
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: Does somebody have a high enough grade on one of

1013
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 4: those guys outside of Shador. I'm sure a few teams do,

1014
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: but like, do teams really have a high enough grade

1015
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: on a Tyler Shuck that this media created narrative is

1016
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 4: actually legit because I just don't buy it.

1017
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 3: So let's get into Shador.

1018
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: So I am a little bit higher than you, and

1019
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: I haven't really heard the reason that you're maybe a

1020
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: little bit lower.

1021
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: I think that to me.

1022
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: Listen, I think there's a lot of you know, there's

1023
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of the stuff that you know, the

1024
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: watch stuff and you know, the the whatever, and like

1025
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: I think this is the nil era. I think whatever.

1026
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: But I also think that, listen, bottom line was very accurate,

1027
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: very accurate quarterback. You know, he's not an A plus

1028
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: plus athlete, and I do think, you know, as the

1029
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: league has changed, I don't think you can be Eli anymore.

1030
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: But he's not Eli, but he's you know, he's not

1031
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: Lamar either. I think he's very accurate. I think the

1032
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: O line was abysmal. I think the run game was abysmal.

1033
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, I'll say this, I think

1034
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: he's to blame for some stuff. You know, the sack

1035
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 2: numbers are really high. Some of it was the O line,

1036
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: but some of it was him holding on the ball

1037
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: too long, but I just think when you're that accurate,

1038
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: when you throw that many touchdowns, I was gonna say,

1039
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 2: do you have so much success that you get your

1040
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: jersey retired?

1041
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: Which we might discuss before the end of the show.

1042
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: You know, I just think that. Listen.

1043
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: I understand he's not the perfect quarterback, but I mean,

1044
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 2: we are talking about a guy that in the last

1045
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: two seasons through four a combined sixty four touchdown passes,

1046
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: thirteen interceptions and completed about seventy two and a half

1047
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: percent over the last two seasons. I know the big

1048
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: twelve isn't the SEC but it's still really good. I

1049
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: do like him, I think to the point that you said,

1050
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: I actually don't think he falls out of the first

1051
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 2: round or for the top ten.

1052
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: Excuse me.

1053
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: I could see the scenario where the Giants take him

1054
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: at three, even though they have Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston.

1055
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: I certainly think the Saints could take him as well.

1056
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: I know you're not as high on him, but I'll

1057
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: be curious, One, why are you not as high? And

1058
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: then two, what do you think now that you've said,

1059
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: do you think he goes in the top ten, what

1060
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 2: the most likely landing spot is.

1061
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't. I'm not really low on him.

1062
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: I'm more low on the situation he's likely to go to.

1063
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 4: I think that where he goes it actually needs to

1064
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: be a proper fit. But that fit needs to extend

1065
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 4: past just the guys on the field and into the office.

1066
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: So he goes to the Giants. I have no confidence

1067
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: in that situation at all. I don't know about Dable,

1068
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 4: I don't know about anything that's going on there outside

1069
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 4: of I like the league neighbors, and I think Tracy's

1070
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: a decent running back. But like I'm just I'm just

1071
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: not sold there. You go to the Saints, the Saints

1072
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: and the most boring team in the world. They should

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00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: draft to Shad or Sanders like that would be at

1074
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 4: least interesting. I like what he could potentially do, But

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00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 4: you talked about his own line. His OWD line is

1076
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: likely to be terrible. That's generally the case. That's why

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00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 4: teams are drafting as high as they are. I think

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00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 4: that he certainly, Like I said, I don't, I'm not

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00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: as low on him as most are. Like, you've got

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Speaker 4: guys that are out here on television telling like begging

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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: teams not to draft him and all this. I do

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 4: think that there's a little bit of extra that comes

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00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 4: with him that maybe that gets it a higher bus potential,

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00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,959
Speaker 4: just because everything he does is likely to be under

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00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 4: a microscope a little bit more, and kind of his

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00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: attitude and stuff, he's going to have to find a

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00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: way to navigate through some of that. And like if

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00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: he goes to New York, for example, that media circus

1089
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: surrounding that, I don't know if that's best for your

1090
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 4: football team. If he goes to New Orleans, I think

1091
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 4: he'd be fine, for example. But like, I think he

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00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: can play, and I do think that there's a possibility

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00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 4: that his ceiling is high. I'm just afraid his floor

1094
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: is kind of I think it's I think his floor

1095
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 4: is low. I think the difference between one of the

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00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 4: big differences between him and cam Ward is I don't

1097
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: see the scenario where cam Ward is not at least

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00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 4: pretty good. I think there's a possibility, in the wrong

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00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: situation that Seduur could just kind of be one of

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00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 4: those kind of what if stories. I don't I don't

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00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 4: sinse that with cam Ward's I think that's really it.

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00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: But in terms of like where he would land, I mean,

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00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: Cleveland can't take him because Deshaun's coming back for all

1104
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: his haters this year. That's what he said. Yeah, he

1105
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: said that last week. He said he's coming back to

1106
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 4: prove the haters wrong and all this other kind of stuff.

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00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: It's just like, all right, buddy, Joe Flacco is in

1108
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: a better quarterback than him at this point.

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00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, how about just play decent football first before

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00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 4: calling out anybody. Giants at three is probably the most

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00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 4: likely that I see right now. I think the Saints

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00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 4: is probably next. Like I think that for example. The

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00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 4: other thing is is somebody willing to trade up because

1114
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: they really like him? Is there somebody we're forgetting that's

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00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: in the teams or the twenties that actually wouldn't mind

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 4: bringing him on board and has some question marks of

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00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: their own at the quarterback position. I think that's possible.

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00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 4: So it's highly possible. It's not a team that's actually

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00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 4: currently with a top ten pick, But if I had

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Speaker 4: to just pick right now, I would say three to

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00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 4: nine because whoever gets him, I think is going to

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00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: play him. I don't think he's going to be somebody

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00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 4: that sits the bench, because maybe if he was, you

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00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: could look at the Raiders. But the Raiders need some

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00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 4: help otherwise, and they just paid Gino to kind of

1126
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 4: be a stop yeah, for a few years at least,

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00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: So I kind of don't think it's going to be them.

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Speaker 4: Seems like maybe it's gonna be Ashton Genty potentially, if

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Speaker 4: they wanted to take him at six, So three and nine,

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00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 4: I agree with you are probably the most likely spots.

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00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: Real quick, just a minute or so, Ashton Genty, do

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00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 2: how listen? Great story? He is also a five to

1133
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: seven running back, and I understand what he did at Boise.

1134
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: I understand how incredible his season was, and I understand

1135
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: by the way the value of a good running back

1136
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: Derek Henry. This past year, Saquon Barkley certainly was the

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00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: biggest reason the Eagles won a championship. Where are we

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00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: at with with Ashton Genty.

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00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 4: I read an article that said that the Raiders that

1140
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: this is this is Pete Carroll wanting to bring in

1141
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 4: his Marshawn Lynch, And I'm like, dude's five to seven,

1142
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 4: Like it's not exactly the same. This is not an

1143
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 4: apples to apples comparison. I have kind of hoped in

1144
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: the back of my mind that maybe he would still

1145
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 4: be there for Denver because that's a position of need

1146
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 4: for my Broncos. I don't think he's going to be there.

1147
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: I understand like his highs are pretty high, but it's

1148
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 4: a it's a man's league, and he does have size issues,

1149
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 4: so I don't know what that looks like. Maybe maybe

1150
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: he ends up being fine, or maybe a lot of

1151
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: the things he was able to do at Boise he's

1152
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: not going to be able to do uh in the NFL,

1153
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: So I think it's very possible. For example, if if

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00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: the Raiders draft him at six, I think that's probably

1155
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: an overdraft. I think that's probably a reach, but it

1156
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 4: might be the guy that they feel like they need

1157
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 4: at a position of need for them. I don't know

1158
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: exactly how to answer that, but I'm sort of I'm

1159
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: gonna be very weight and see. When it comes to Ashton,

1160
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 4: Genty and Scatibo, for example, like I don't I don't

1161
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 4: see the running back that's just a guarantee given here.

1162
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: I do see a lot of talented backs, and especially

1163
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: when you look at Genty, there's a lot to love,

1164
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna need to see that on the NFL

1165
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 4: level before where I can really feel comfortable.

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1181
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1182
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,960
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00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: a little bit about the fallout this week of the

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00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 2: NICO Eamliava situation at Tennessee. Before we do those second

1201
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: time this evening, let's get into the news desk to

1202
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: seger my friend, what is trending?

1203
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: Well?

1204
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 6: All the NBA playoff openers, Well, we got four four

1205
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 6: tomorrow and we saw some good basketball today. Not in

1206
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 6: the first game, Indiana all over Milwaukee won seventeen to

1207
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 6: ninety eight, but then Denver down fifteen in the first half,

1208
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 6: beat the Clippers in overtime. Then the Knicks had that

1209
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 6: twenty one to zero run fourth quarter and beat Detroit,

1210
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 6: and Minnesota largely dominated the Lakers in LA in the

1211
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 6: late game, one seventeen to ninety five. Some Laker players

1212
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 6: were saying afterwards, we need to be more physical in

1213
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 6: this series. Lukadanjich thirty seven points in the loss. Apparently

1214
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 6: that's tied for second most in a Laker postseason debut.

1215
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 6: Shack had forty six points in his first Laker playoff

1216
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 6: game in nineteen ninety seven. The NHL Playoffs got underway

1217
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 6: with two games tonight, Winnipeg five to three over Saint Louis, Colorado,

1218
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 6: with late scoring made it five to one at Dallas.

1219
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 6: Baseball's late game in Anaheim had the Giants holding on

1220
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 6: three to two over the Angels. Might trout two home

1221
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 6: runs for the Halos, but he flew out deep in

1222
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 6: the ninth Atlanta four to three over Minnesota Chrissale and

1223
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 6: no decision. He did have eight strikeouts in four and

1224
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 6: a third innings for the Braves. Alex Verdugo, now with Atlanta,

1225
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 6: had four hits. The A's were three to one. Winners

1226
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 6: at Milwaukee. The win the Luis Severino pitched eight innings.

1227
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 6: The Brewers offense went three to thirty, no walks. Even

1228
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 6: Houston defeated San Diego in a comeback three to two.

1229
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 6: The Padres record fifteen and six. The Dodgers are fifteen

1230
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 6: and seven after losing a good ballgame on Fox TV

1231
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 6: today at Texas. It was the Rangers four to three

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 6: over La on a two run homer in the bottom

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 6: of the ninth by Dolus Garcia. The loss went to

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01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 6: former Rangers All Star closer Kirby Yates. Dodgers starter Roki

1235
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 6: Sasakia no decision despite six innings of work. Sho Heyo

1236
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 6: Tani out again, still on paternity leave.

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01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: He just became a dad.

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01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 6: Ten inning win for Boston for Tampa Bay, twelve inning

1239
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 6: win for Seattle. Washington won twelve eleven at Colorado, and

1240
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 6: Philadelphia held on eleven ten over Miami.

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01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,640
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01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,040
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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,280
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01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: Jaymart So, the big story not only the week in

1255
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: college football, but you know, I think it largely became

1256
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: at least the front end of the week, maybe the

1257
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: biggest story in sports. And it was something we talked

1258
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 2: about a lot last Saturday. Nico Iamaliava, of course, when

1259
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: we got on air, had entered the transfer Portal Tennessee.

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01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 2: Former Tennessee quarterback. We know the situation was set to

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: make about two point four million dollars this year at Tennessee.

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01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: His camp basically went to the Tennessee you collective, the people,

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01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: the money people, and said, hey, the market has changed

1264
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 2: since we signed this deal. Originally the best players are

1265
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: getting four four million or so we want four. Tennessee

1266
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: told him to kick rocks well, by now we know

1267
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 2: the updates to this story. Not only did Nico hit

1268
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: the portal, but right now, as we're seeing it does

1269
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: not appear as though there is much of a market

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01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: for Nico, and certainly not at the price that they

1271
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: were hoping for our own Colin Cowhard reported that Nico

1272
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: will end up with the UCLA Bruins. Have not seen

1273
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: anywhere yet that it says that that's technically necessarily official.

1274
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: Not that I don't believe Colin, just that it hasn't

1275
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: been official by either Nico or the school. I bring

1276
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: it up because whether Nico ends up at UCLA or not,

1277
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 2: this is what we talked about you and I last week.

1278
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: I think we were a little bit ahead of this.

1279
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: Is that we talked about the fact that he was

1280
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: either going to end up in a much worse football

1281
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: situation or a which worse financial situation, and it looks like,

1282
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes, it could be both. Now

1283
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: it is worth noting, of course, that Nico's camp is

1284
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: saying it is not about money, it has to do

1285
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: with the offense. That'd be a little confusing as to

1286
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: why you'd go to the one hundred and eighteenth ranked

1287
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: offense in college football, although when you have no options,

1288
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: maybe you don't really have much say. But anyway, I

1289
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: have kind of given all of the particulars your thoughts

1290
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 2: on where we are with Nico right now.

1291
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 4: What I don't really have is anything like new in

1292
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 4: terms of changing what I said last week. Neither do you,

1293
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: Because we both said we didn't think this was Nico

1294
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 4: making this decision. We both said this wouldn't end well

1295
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 4: for Nico. We both applauded Tennessee and said they did

1296
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 4: exactly what they should have done. Even if this hurts

1297
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 4: them in the short term, and it likely will in

1298
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 4: terms of what they're able to do on the field

1299
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 4: this season, but the we kind of felt sorry for

1300
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: Nico in this situation. I haven't changed any of that.

1301
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 4: Nothing that I've seen this week makes me dislike Nico anymore.

1302
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: And look, I'm in Tennessee. I do the show here

1303
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 4: in Nashville. I covered the balls daily for several years,

1304
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 4: and even though I don't do that now and I

1305
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 4: don't consume local media here, everybody that came up to

1306
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 4: me this week, or anybody that asked me or talked

1307
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 4: to me about Tennessee, We're happy that Nico was gone,

1308
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 4: and we're looking forward to seeing the numbers not be

1309
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 4: what he thought they were going to be. And that's

1310
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 4: generally what it's happened. Like what you've seen out there,

1311
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 4: whether or not it's true, is like one point seventy

1312
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 4: five million or something like that at UCLA last week.

1313
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 4: I told you I thought Ucla would be the play

1314
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 4: and Disager said the right thing. He said, they don't

1315
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 4: pay their coaches. How are they going to pay How

1316
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 4: are they gonna pay Nico? And of course we know

1317
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: they have revenue issues and joined the Big Ten, but

1318
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 4: they still own you know, California Berkeley.

1319
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: They still forgot about there. I actually forgot about that.

1320
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so I mean they all of that, but

1321
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 4: they do have a lot of private money, a lot

1322
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 4: of guys to have a ton of money, just like

1323
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 4: any other collective, and maybe they're able to do whatever

1324
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 4: they need to do from that perspective. But the biggest takeaway,

1325
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 4: just reading the Front Office Sports article that I sent

1326
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: you earlier today, we were dead right. Like if you

1327
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: look at his representation, his family members and non official

1328
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 4: agents and all this and the stuff that they are saying.

1329
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: First off, the thing about money, know all we wanted

1330
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 4: was wide receiver and a better offensive line. And we

1331
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 4: went to Hypel and we said, Josh, we want to

1332
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 4: be here, but you need to build the team around

1333
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 4: Nico and protect him because he got sacked a lot

1334
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: and he got hurt multiple times last year and all

1335
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 4: this other kind of stuff. Give us some more weapons.

1336
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 4: Let's go out there and win. All this kind of stuff.

1337
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 4: I don't doubt that. And it even says in the

1338
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 4: article that Nico said, hey, man, if if you just

1339
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: make sure that I can stay upright, put me in

1340
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 4: the best position to win, I'm going to be here.

1341
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 4: But that idea that there was no money involved on

1342
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 4: the side of his representation, that just doesn't wash. Man, Like,

1343
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 4: just looking at it, you can tell that's a lie.

1344
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 4: You could tell that that's just not true, especially even

1345
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 4: how they reacted to it. They're cursing people and all

1346
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 4: this other stuff. I just look at this and I

1347
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 4: feel increasingly sorry for Nico, because Nico made a horrible decision.

1348
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 4: But I don't even know if it was his decision

1349
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 4: to make. And I don't think that those that were

1350
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: kind of moving the goalposts around and changing kind of

1351
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 4: how this was going. I'm not even sure if Nico

1352
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 4: knew every step of what was happening behind his back

1353
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: to try and I don't know, maximize this or maximize that,

1354
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 4: or create this market that didn't exist and all of

1355
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 4: these things. I feel bad for him because I think

1356
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: he almost became pawn in this situation. But he has

1357
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 4: looked at like a super villain in this state of Tennessee.

1358
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 4: Based on the conversations that I have had this week,

1359
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 4: everybody wants to see him fall on his face. And

1360
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 4: I felt bad for that.

1361
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I as somebody who's just been around college sports,

1362
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: even in the pre Nil era. You know, I always say,

1363
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 2: is that whenever there was that weird recruiting story of

1364
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: oh why did that kid commit there? And usually there's

1365
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: an adult in that person's life that had maybe the

1366
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: kid's best interest not at heart. And you could probably

1367
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 2: guess some of those scenarios, and you know, sometimes it

1368
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 2: doesn't really even work out in a negative way, but

1369
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 2: a lot of times it does, and a lot of

1370
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 2: times the adults making decisions don't have what's in the

1371
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: best interest of the kid. Now, I'll say, in the

1372
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: defense of the Nico camp, it's not really a defense.

1373
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 3: I just I don't think they thought.

1374
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: It would get to a point where Tennessee actually balked

1375
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: and said that we're not coming back with the money

1376
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: that you expect. Now, that doesn't make it any different.

1377
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 2: And I'll say this, I do you feel bad for

1378
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: the kid? I know, there's the whole argument of oh,

1379
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: he's twenty years old, he's going to be twenty one.

1380
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 3: Make this.

1381
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: You know, listen, we were all twenty twenty one years

1382
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: old once. And I'll also say the adults in his

1383
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: life got him in a position where he was making

1384
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 2: two million dollars a year at Tennessee, so he probably

1385
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: had no reason to think that he wasn't going to

1386
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: get what he was asking for.

1387
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 3: But you know, just I don't know. I'm going to a

1388
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: lot of different directions.

1389
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: But I would also say, like, it wasn't him, It

1390
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: clearly wasn't him.

1391
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: It was clearly the adults. They clearly overplayed his hand.

1392
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: And the one thing I will say, j Martin, I

1393
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 2: think this has become a little bit of a talking

1394
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: point this week, and I think that it should be.

1395
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 2: I do think you know, when we were on air

1396
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: last week, it felt like an inflection point in the

1397
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: NIL era of oh my god, like the whole world

1398
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: is seeing how crazy this is and how some sort

1399
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: of structure needs to come into place. I think it's

1400
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: almost become an inflection point in the other way as well,

1401
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 2: of got to be really careful what you wish for

1402
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: and what you ask for. And I thought it was

1403
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: interesting this week. It was not only the Nico situation.

1404
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you saw this, but you

1405
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 2: see the fran Brown quote. Fran Brown, the Syracuse head coach,

1406
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: basically their best player was a wide is a wide receiver.

1407
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: Was a wide receiver.

1408
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: He entered the portal and they asked fran Brown, why

1409
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 2: did he enter the portal that fran Brown was like,

1410
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: he thinks he's getting two million dollars and I am

1411
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 2: paying a wide receiver two million dollars.

1412
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 3: Basically wow. Yeah, And and I guess.

1413
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: The point that I'm trying to make is that I

1414
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: do think the Nico thing is an inflection point in

1415
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: the other way as well. Of listen, we're paying you

1416
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: guys a lot of money, and listen, it's great whatever,

1417
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, but there is a downside to this.

1418
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: You have to perform and you have to deliver and

1419
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 2: just because you ask for it doesn't mean you're getting it.

1420
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 2: And so I think Nico very well could be a

1421
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 2: cautionary tale. As I said, unless I miss something. I

1422
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: haven't seen anything official from either Nico's camp or UCLA

1423
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: saying that he is officially a Bruin, But I think

1424
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 2: this is an inflection point of he is going to

1425
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 2: be an a war situation, the money is going to be

1426
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: as good, and this is very much a cautionary tale

1427
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: of be careful what you wish for in this nil era.

1428
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I mean like if you've ever bid on

1429
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 4: something on eBay, if you've ever made an offer actually

1430
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 4: on like a buy it now kind of deal, but

1431
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: you can also make an offer. Do you put out

1432
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: the offer for the most money that you were willing

1433
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 4: to spend when you actually send that first bid to

1434
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 4: the person that has the item that you want, and

1435
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 4: of course not you go about seven eight dollars less,

1436
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 4: and then he's going to go high. He's going to

1437
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 4: stick out pretty high. But the number that you actually

1438
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: are willing to pay or the number that you want

1439
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 4: to pay, is somewhere in the middle there. So I

1440
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 4: think the issue is if you shoot for four million.

1441
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: If four is the max, are you telling me that

1442
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 4: four was going to be the sticking point that Tennessee's

1443
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 4: going to come back? And Nico's camp was so arrogant

1444
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 4: that they thought Tennessee was going to balk and then

1445
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 4: they didn't just back off at that point and realize, Okay,

1446
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 4: we didn't have the cards we thought we did. And

1447
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 4: then the other thing is this, dude, just go out

1448
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 4: and play and you'll get your four mil. If you

1449
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 4: go out and play and you ball out, you can renegotiate.

1450
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 4: The biggest problem for Nico is that his play was

1451
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 4: not consistent or high level enough to dictate terms for

1452
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 4: him to go out there and ask for more money.

1453
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 4: And I say him because ultimately it's going to fall

1454
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 4: on him. His camp is not going to be the

1455
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 4: one that the story is told about ten fifteen years

1456
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 4: down the road. If you look at comments sections from

1457
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 4: other fan bases when it involves Nico, it's he's a diva.

1458
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 4: You don't want that problem like. It may not be

1459
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 4: Nico at all, it may be all the other people,

1460
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 4: but it's going to be the consequence that's going to

1461
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 4: fall on him. It's not going to fall on anyone else.

1462
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 4: So what we have to learn from this, Nico is

1463
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 4: in the future, tell your camp to kick the same

1464
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 4: rocks that Tennessee did and make your own decisions and

1465
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 4: make them based on reality, not on Fantasyland, and not

1466
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 4: on what Carson and Beck is getting at Miami. Make

1467
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: a smart decision for your football future. Understand that if

1468
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 4: you're playing at Tennessee and you're gonna be in a

1469
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: college football playoff again this coming year, that you're going

1470
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 4: to have an opportunity to make plenty of money. Two

1471
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 4: million dollars is enough right now for you because it

1472
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: puts you in the best situation. You go to UCLA

1473
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 4: and you don't win. What are we talking about, Nico

1474
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 4: next year taking less money to go to some Midwest

1475
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 4: school that isn't gonna pay as much like what's gonna happen.

1476
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 4: The fact that you left and you're probably gonna end

1477
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: up with less money. That is such an l for

1478
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 4: Nico to take, and it should be on his camp

1479
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 4: and he should be furious about that and hopefully he

1480
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 4: learns from it.

1481
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 3: There's nothing else to really add.

1482
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: You feel bad for Nico, but this is a situation

1483
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: that the camp and he put himself in h we

1484
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 2: expect him to be a UCLA Brewin. But good luck,

1485
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: by the way, last, last, last, last, I I'm just

1486
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: gonna say this too, is like talk about misjudging, you're

1487
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: leveraged and the other thing I forgot And we might

1488
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 2: have discussed this last week, but I forgot it in

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Speaker 2: the moment. Can't transfer to other SEC schools in the Springs,

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Speaker 2: So there's a rule in the SEC that you can't

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Speaker 2: take players from another SEC team. So there goes fifteen

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Speaker 2: bidders right there. Hypothetical bidders. I know plenty of them

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Speaker 2: have quarterbacks situations set. It's just a disaster all around. Nico,

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Speaker 2: I think needs to have some adult talks with the

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Speaker 2: people making decisions for him because it has been a

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Speaker 2: total train wreck. Fox Sports Radio Er towards Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: come back. We will toss it over to Saga. He

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Speaker 2: first round of the draft. Insider Jay Glazer, former Jets

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Speaker 2: GM Joe Juglas, College Football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports lead reporter Jenny Taff Have you covered all

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Speaker 2: thirty two picks Thursday Night? That's Thursday, eight pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: the new desk immediately. Disager a little bit short on

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Speaker 2: the extended update. I apologize, but flor is all yours.

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Speaker 3: My friend.

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Speaker 6: I cannot wait for the Thursday Night show, an annual

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Speaker 6: thing here at Fox Sports Radio, and of course Jason

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Speaker 6: Smith is on right after the first round ends. Thursday's

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Speaker 6: draft is in Green Bay. Sixteen pros will be in attendance,

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Speaker 6: including quarterbacks Cam Ward and Jalen Milroe. Round one Thursday night,

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Speaker 6: Rounds two and three are the next night, Rounds four

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Speaker 6: through seven on Saturday, the twenty sixth. By the way,

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Speaker 6: Dallas and New Orleans each started their voluntary offseason workout

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Speaker 6: programs this past Monday, so that includes meetings, conditioning, rehab

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Speaker 6: began workouts last week, and twenty five other clubs are

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Speaker 6: beginning this thing next week. Program reminder, NASCAR's Cup Series

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Speaker 6: off Sunday for Easter. It'll be on Fox TV the

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Speaker 6: next Sunday. IndyCars next race is until May fourth in Birmingham.

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Speaker 6: All the IndyCar races this year on Fox, so that

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Speaker 6: includes the Indy five hundred in late May. Fox had

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Speaker 6: UFL Spring football tonight. It's replaying on FS one right

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Speaker 6: now and an update from Matt Carral's team is Birmingham

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Speaker 6: Stallions all win at Houston twenty three to sixteen Corral

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Speaker 6: two touchdown passes, one interception, and he had fifty two

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Speaker 6: yards rushing on the ground on ten carries. The late

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Speaker 6: MLS game, five to three, Kansas City beat San Jose.

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Speaker 6: As for the MLB action today, we had a twelve

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Speaker 6: inning game where Seattle won eight four at Toronto. Rowdy

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Speaker 6: tell is a late Grand Slam, but what a finish.

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Speaker 6: With Tampa Bay they're playing in the Yankee Spring training

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Speaker 6: Stadium this year. The Yankees are visiting there this weekend.

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Speaker 6: The Rays got four runs bottom of the ninth to

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Speaker 6: tie it against the new Yankee closer, Devin Williams, and

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Speaker 6: then a walk off homer in the tenth won the

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Speaker 6: game ten to eight over New York, even though the

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Speaker 6: Yankees Aaron Judge had three more hits, three RBIs, and

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Speaker 6: he's batting three to ninety seven. The Red Sox won

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Speaker 6: their fourth in a row, a ten inning win at

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Speaker 6: home against the White Sox, four to three. The White

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 6: Sox have lost six in a row. They're zero to

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Speaker 6: eight on the road and four and sixteen overall. It's

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Speaker 6: a very good nl Wes Giants took the late game

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Speaker 6: three to two at the Angels despite two homers from

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Speaker 6: Mike Trout. Houston came back to beat San Diego on

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Speaker 6: FS one tonight three to two, so the Pod record

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Speaker 6: fifteen and six, Dodgers fifteen and seven. After giving up

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Speaker 6: a two run homer bottom in the ninth at Texas

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Speaker 6: for to three Rangers at Dolus Garcia, the hero Washington

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Speaker 6: was a head at Corsfield, Colorado, twelve to two in

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Speaker 6: the seventh, but of course it's Colorado, so the game

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Speaker 6: wasn't over. Twelve eleven is the final. Rockies have lost

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Speaker 6: seven in a row. They're three and sixteen this year,

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Speaker 6: and yeah, they're in a pretty good division. Meanwhile, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 6: at home today held on for an eleven to ten

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Speaker 6: win against Miami, which has lost five in a row.

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Speaker 6: Marlin scored six times in the top of the ninth

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Speaker 6: to get close. Cleveland won three to nothing at Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 6: beating Paul Skens Detroit three to one over Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: The Royals have lost six in a row. In fact,

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Speaker 6: Casey's two to ten on the road, while the Tigers

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 6: are eight in one at home. The Cubs played a

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Speaker 6: truly crazy game against Arizona Friday, a little more normal

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Speaker 6: six to two final over the Diamondbacks today the loss

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Speaker 6: to Zach Gallon one in three era over five and

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Speaker 6: the Diamondbacks offense was just four for thirty two in

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Speaker 6: this game. The Mets at home are eight and one.

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Speaker 6: They beat the Cardinals three ninzing Cards on the road

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Speaker 6: one and eight so far. Code Is Sega the winning

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Speaker 6: pitcher for the Mets three and one, the save to

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Speaker 6: Edwin Diaz. Cardinals offense went three for twenty nine and

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Speaker 6: Baltimore hit five home runs and beat the Reds nine

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Speaker 6: to five the loss to Hunter Green. As far as

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Speaker 6: the NBA playoffs, yes, the Lakers were creamed by the

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Speaker 6: Minnesota Timberwolves one seventeen to ninety five. Luka Doncic did

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Speaker 6: have thirty seven points the rest of his team twenty

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Speaker 6: one of sixty one shooting from the floor. Minnesota's lead

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Speaker 6: mid third quarter was eighty to fifty four. Minnesota from

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Speaker 6: three point range twenty one of forty two. Here the

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Speaker 6: last month and a half Timberwolves record is eighteen and four.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve di seger Sis Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Air Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyrek

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. We got one hour left till we

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Speaker 2: hit it off to Bernie Frado, and there is still

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Speaker 2: plenty to discuss. We are going to hit on Night

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Speaker 2: one of the NBA Playoffs. We're gonna talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit about Aaron Rodger're gonna talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, the coach Killer.

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Speaker 3: That's all next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frado of The Bernie Frado Show follows us. Cannot

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Speaker 2: wait to hear what Bernie has to say about what

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Speaker 2: was a busy, busy, busy week in sports and a

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Speaker 2: busy week to come with the NFL Draft ahead, Jaymark,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about Day one of the NBA Playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Four games our final for Day one.

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01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: By the way, Day two of course, will open UH

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Speaker 2: four games on Sunday as well, the first one Memphis

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Speaker 2: at OKC one PM Eastern Orlando at Boston, Miami at Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: and the late game Golden State at Houston. But we

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01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 2: will focus on what happened on Saturday. The four games

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Speaker 2: that did happen. Indy beats the Milwaukee Bucks one eleven

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Speaker 2: ninety eight, Denver in overtime beats, the Los Angeles Clippers

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01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: won twelve to one ten. The New York Knicks, thanks

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01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: to a twenty one nothing run in the fourth quarter,

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01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: beat the Detroit Pistons one twenty three, one twelve. But

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Speaker 2: we got to get to the big one in Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles at Crypto dot Com Arena, the home formerly of

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Speaker 2: all these Lakers greats.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah. Anyway, this is a terrible transition.

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01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make one seventeen ninety five

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01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: was the final score. I was gonna say, you know,

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Speaker 2: the home of will toon, the home of this Then

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01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 2: I realized that they didn't actually play there. But the

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Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make long illustrious history for the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers.

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01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 3: By the way, I.

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Speaker 2: Believe this was the first game one that Lebron of

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01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: the Lebron era that was played in Los Angeles. Point

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01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make did not go well. The Minnesota

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01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: Timberwolves a one seventeen ninety five win. The crazy part

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01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 2: was the Lakers were up by seven after the first quarter,

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01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: meaning that the Lakers were outscored by twenty nine points

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01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 2: in the final three quarters. Jmart, what did you make

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01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: of a game one defeat for the Lakers a game

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Speaker 2: one win for the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, man, this is what's gonna happen when Lebron

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01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 4: doesn't play. Oh oh wait, I was looking at that. Whoa,

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Speaker 4: she actually did play?

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Speaker 3: No, that was Bronny. You were thinking of Bronni. I

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of how how are you supposed to

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 4: explain this media, How are you supposed to explain such

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01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 4: a lack of daisical performance. It had to be because

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01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 4: Lebron didn't play, because I mean, Luca has to be

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Speaker 4: the one too. He had thirty seven. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 4: a problem. You don't overreact to this. But contrary to

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Speaker 4: popular belief, the Lakers are actually going to have to

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01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 4: go win these games. They're not just going to be

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01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 4: gifted to them the way they are in the press.

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Speaker 4: Like they're actually going to have to beat a team

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 4: that and Disiger made an excellent point when he gave

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Speaker 4: that factoid during the segment at the end of the

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Speaker 4: second hour. This is a team in the t Wolves.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty hot. They were eighteen and four in their

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Speaker 4: last twenty two games, and this is a team that

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01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 4: was in the Western Conference finals a year ago. This

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01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 4: is a team knows what they're doing. They've got a

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Speaker 4: dude that has serious confidence in Anthony Edwards, and then

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01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 4: they have nas Reed who seems to be super clutch,

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Speaker 4: especially in these big kind of moments like this. They're

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01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 4: going to have to beat this team. It's not going

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01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 4: to be handed to them. The t Wolves are not

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01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 4: just going to bow down to them because they have

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Speaker 4: Lugadancic and certainly because they have Lebron James on the floor.

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Speaker 4: Lebron's gonna have to be better than he was in

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Speaker 4: this game, don't it. I mean, if he gives you

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Speaker 4: thirty seven every night, you know that's that's what you

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01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 4: brought him there to do. But you give up one

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Speaker 4: hundred and seventeen points in this thing, in a game

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Speaker 4: where Anthony Edwards didn't even have twenty five I think

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01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 4: he had twenty two in a game. I mean, that's decent,

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Speaker 4: But I mean you expect that for the Tea Wolves

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01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 4: to be able to beat this Leviathan that is the Lakers,

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01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 4: he's got to have forty five at night. In the

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01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 4: fact that he had twenty two and they won by

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01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 4: twenty two, that says a lot. They're going to have

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01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 4: to win these games erin. And I'm certainly not saying

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01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 4: that they're not going to, but this has got to

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01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 4: be a wake up call to them real quick that

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01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 4: oh okay, all right, this is harder than it looks

1696
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 4: like the media and I'm saying them, I'm not talking

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01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 4: about the Lakers. I'm saying to the media, like, stop

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01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 4: crowning them and don't bury them on Monday either. You

1699
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 4: don't have to always hit the extremes. This is a

1700
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 4: team that can win. But guess what they can look

1701
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 4: And that's what happened on Saturday.

1702
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you and I joked when all this happened.

1703
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: I remember calling them the greatest dynasty that never was

1704
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: because everyone had just basically handed them the championship after

1705
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: they went like two to zero after the Luca trade.

1706
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 2: But I think, to me, again, you don't want to overreact. Listen,

1707
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 2: I would still suspect that the Lakers would at least

1708
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 2: win this round. You don't want to overreact. But the

1709
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: counter to that is the issues that I think anybody

1710
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 2: who was really looking at this unbiasedly and not looking

1711
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: at it as somebody that was trying to, you know,

1712
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: jack up their numbers by hyping up the Lakers, all

1713
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 2: those issues were at came into fruition on Saturday night.

1714
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: The truth of the matter was the night the trade happened,

1715
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: you and I were on air and we talked about, Okay,

1716
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 2: well you're gonna have to score a lot more because

1717
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: the defense is gonna be a lot different without Anthony Davis. Well,

1718
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: you give up one hundred and seventeen points. Then on

1719
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: top of that, and this was the part that I

1720
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 2: kept going back to superstars one who basically were led

1721
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 2: to believe got traded because he is out of shape

1722
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 2: and me not melted down, but he wore down is

1723
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 2: probably the right way to put it. In the NBA

1724
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: Finals last year, well he was great, but are you

1725
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 2: gonna be able to get thirty seven from him every night?

1726
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Because listen, I'm not a professional athlete. Okay, but I'm

1727
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 2: also not getting paid thirty forty million dollars a year.

1728
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 2: Luca does not look in shape to me. Are you

1729
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: gonna get thirty seven from every night? We'll find out.

1730
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: But then Lebron James, listen, he's an all time great.

1731
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: This isn't the night to you know whatever. But at

1732
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: the same time, he's forty years old, and I have

1733
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: seen it the last couple of years in the playoffs

1734
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: where he can look like Pete Lebron for a half,

1735
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: for two and a half, quarters, maybe three, but at

1736
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 2: some point that age shows up. He's forty years old,

1737
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 2: and it's hard to ask him game over game, week

1738
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: over week, month over month in the playoffs to be

1739
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 2: great every single night. And this has been my issue

1740
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 2: from day one with the Lakers. Out of shape, young guy,

1741
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 2: old guy that is battling Father Time in a way

1742
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: that we've never seen before. And I just think it's

1743
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: unrealistic to expect both of them to be great every

1744
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 2: single night when they're not. You have a situation like

1745
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: tonight where you only score ninety five points, you're not

1746
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 2: great defensively, and then you still need that third guy

1747
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: to step up. Austin Reeves was okay on Saturday Night,

1748
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 2: but not great with sixteen points on five to thirteen shooting.

1749
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 2: It's just like, you know, what almost reminds me of

1750
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: j mart is that first remember the year that Katie

1751
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 2: got traded to the Suns, and like they played the

1752
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 2: Nuggets that was your the Nuggets won the title, but

1753
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 2: it was like the first like three games of that series,

1754
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: it was like Katie and Booker both went for forty

1755
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: every night and they still lost every It's like they

1756
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 2: don't have enough help around them. And that's what I

1757
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: feel like with the Lakers is you need a great

1758
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 2: night from Lebron every night. You need a great night

1759
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: from Luke every night, and when you don't get it,

1760
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 2: every game is gonna be up in the air.

1761
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 3: And even when you do get it, every game going

1762
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 3: to be up in the air.

1763
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: They certainly didn't get a great performance from Lebron and

1764
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: they are now trailing the Timberwolves zero one in that series.

1765
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, everything they do will be magnified in

1766
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 4: both directions, and I think you can take away multiple things,

1767
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 4: one being that this is a team that can win

1768
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 4: and it's also a team that can lose, and a

1769
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 4: lot of it is going to hinge on these superstar performances.

1770
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you just can't count on the role players,

1771
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 4: especially not on this team, because they're just not that

1772
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 4: good or they're very very young, and so you can't

1773
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 4: trust them yet in these moments. And so you look

1774
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 4: at the t Wolves. I mean t Wolves are coming

1775
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 4: off a Western Conference Finals run last year, so they

1776
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 4: know what it's like to be in this situation. The

1777
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: larger point is this, if they win a championship, they're

1778
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 4: gonna have to go through about seven weeks of this. Yep,

1779
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to go through like six and a half.

1780
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 4: Seven weeks is the NBA Finals. I'm sure starts, I

1781
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 4: don't know, somewhere, probably around like June seventh, June eighth,

1782
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 4: I'll have to it up, but somewhere in June. So

1783
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 4: and we know this because we've heard this said by

1784
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 4: every legend in this game. Playoff basketball is a different

1785
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 4: animal in terms of what it takes, the fatigue on

1786
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 4: your body, the physicality involved, everything surrounding playoff basketball is

1787
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 4: just completely different. And it wears on you. And you're

1788
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 4: talking about one dude that's forty and another dude that's

1789
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 4: not imperfect, not not certainly in ideal conditioning, and you're

1790
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 4: counting on those guys to get you there. Can it happen? Yes,

1791
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 4: But there's a reason why you and I have been

1792
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 4: skeptical from moment one and said, you know, this is

1793
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 4: not a championship contender this year. When that trade was made,

1794
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 4: I still don't believe that it is. I think that

1795
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 4: this team is not built around its superstar right now.

1796
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 4: It's still built around Lebron James. It was built around him,

1797
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 4: and to a lesser extent, Anthony Davis. Problem was, Anthony

1798
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 4: Davis was built to work with Lebron James and to

1799
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 4: do those things, blocking shit, getting rebounds, getting put backs,

1800
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 4: all those kinds of things, and certainly being defense a

1801
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 4: very solid defensive player on the inside. And you just

1802
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 4: don't have the same thing. And you look at all

1803
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 4: of this. I'm not gonna say the t Wolves are

1804
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 4: going to win the series, but if they do, no

1805
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 4: one should be surprised. The media may act like this

1806
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 4: as the sky's falling, but this is more of what

1807
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 4: should have happened. This is more, honestly what you should

1808
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 4: have expected after this trade to happen, because this t

1809
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 4: Wolves team they have a lot of pride, they have

1810
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 4: a lot of moxy. They have guys that make big

1811
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 4: shots and guys that went on deep playoff runs either

1812
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 4: there or elsewhere last year, and they're ready for this moment.

1813
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 4: And I think that they kind of been pushed to

1814
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 4: the side like they don't matter entering this year or

1815
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 4: entering this playoffs, like this isn't a team that's coming

1816
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 4: in being talked about all season long. And that's perfect

1817
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 4: for them because Edwards, I think does his best work

1818
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 4: when people aren't really paying attention around him, because he's

1819
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 4: that kind of players that's special. And even on a

1820
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 4: night when he got knocked out after a hard fall

1821
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 4: in the third quarter and only had twenty two to

1822
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 4: twenty three points in the game, they absolutely dominated this

1823
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 4: thing on the road. This has got to be a

1824
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 4: little bit frightening for Lakers fans to look at this

1825
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 4: and say, man, what went wrong here and how can

1826
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 4: we fix it? Because there's a lot of things that

1827
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 4: I'm not sure are on your roster to be able

1828
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 4: to fix.

1829
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 2: Great point by you, Anthony Edwards finishes with a very

1830
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 2: solid but not spectacular twenty two points, and again, the

1831
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,679
Speaker 2: defensive concerns McDaniels. Don't want to mess that one up again.

1832
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: Jayden McDaniels average twelve during the regular season has twenty

1833
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 2: five on Saturday in Game one. Also on top of that,

1834
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Nasri too average fourteen a game, had twenty three. So

1835
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: we will see what happens. Game two in this series

1836
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 2: not until Tuesday. By the way, for the conspiracy theorists

1837
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 2: who believe that everything favors Lebron and the Lakers, they

1838
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: get the extra day off before they take the court again.

1839
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: Game two will be Tuesday night. Denver Clippers and New

1840
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 2: York and Detroit are Monday, really quickly. Speaking of those

1841
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 2: two games, Detroit loses Game one at New York. Denver

1842
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 2: wins in overtime against the Los Angeles Clippers, and the

1843
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers basically routed the Milwaukee Bucks. They were up huge,

1844
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: Milwaukee makes a run.

1845
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1846
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: What is to you the single biggest story that came

1847
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: out of Day one of the NBA Playoffs outside of

1848
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 2: what happened in Los Angeles, I.

1849
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 4: Don't know, other than I mean, the Knicks are going

1850
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 4: to be a tough out and I like them in

1851
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 4: this postseason. Probably the biggest takeaway is just that the Bucks.

1852
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 4: It just doesn't look like it's going to be there

1853
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 4: for them this year. I don't know, And I think

1854
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 4: there's a larger conversation certainly to have about Janni Santa

1855
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 4: Tacompo and his long term future there and just kind

1856
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 4: of looking at how this has gone over the last year,

1857
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 4: year and a half or so. But I just kind

1858
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 4: of look at that. I mean, that Indiana team was

1859
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 4: on the cup of you know, the NBA Finals a

1860
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 4: season ago, kind of in a when nobody was expecting

1861
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 4: it to happen, and this Bucks team coming in banged

1862
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 4: up Lillard, who always tends to be banged up. It

1863
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 4: seems like at some point in the postseason, it just

1864
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 4: things just haven't played out the way that they thought

1865
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,799
Speaker 4: they were going to. Some of these decisions have gone awry,

1866
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 4: And so I look at that and I just kind

1867
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 4: of feel like the Bucks may just kind of go

1868
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 4: quietly into this good night, like this may just not

1869
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 4: be this may not be a long run for them

1870
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 4: at all. I understand it's one game, and you don't

1871
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 4: want to overreact to one game, but they looked they

1872
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 4: look kind of outmatched in that game in a way

1873
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 4: that was sort of unexpected. Not that they could lose,

1874
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:40,640
Speaker 4: but that they lost in a way that seemed not

1875
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 4: unlike the way the rest of the series could go.

1876
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 4: If that makes sense, no doubt.

1877
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 2: Dame Lollard, of course, had the very scary blood cloud situation.

1878
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 2: It appears as though he will be playing at some

1879
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 2: point in this series. I'm not a medical expert, but

1880
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: seems as though there's been a breakthrough in kind of

1881
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 2: how they treated that that situation, and he looks like

1882
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 2: he's gonna be better. Indiana will host Game two on

1883
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, game three on Friday, and so yeah, I mean,

1884
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 2: we'll see how this series goes, but think there could

1885
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 2: be some bigger conversations about the Bucks in their future

1886
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: when we get back on air next Saturday. Tell you what, Jmart,

1887
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 2: we will come back when we do. Do want to

1888
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about one team that is certainly

1889
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 2: not in the playoffs, and it is certainly a story

1890
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns. Another coach out the door. What does

1891
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: it mean for Kevin Durant and for that team That

1892
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,000
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1898
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1899
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1901
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1906
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Speaker 2: blow you away on what has happened and what has

1909
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 2: not happened for Kevin Durant since he left Golden State.

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Speaker 3: That's all next.

1911
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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 5: listen live.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jason Martin brodcasting live fromntirerect

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Be sure check out the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Jmart want to get to

1925
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Speaker 2: some KD stuff in a minute. But one thing I

1926
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Speaker 2: don't know that we talked about it necessarily last segment,

1927
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Speaker 2: but we did hit on it in our one is

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Speaker 2: the idea that we're going on twenty plus years of

1929
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Speaker 2: a Lebron James career that he has never once been

1930
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Speaker 2: blamed for anything. Well, nineteen point performance on Saturday Night,

1931
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Speaker 2: I would say, you know, frankly, it's probably one of

1932
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Speaker 2: the worst playoff games he's had in a while. You

1933
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Speaker 2: were watching some a separate broadcast and what was the

1934
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Speaker 2: big takeaway? How hard did they go on Lebron James

1935
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Speaker 2: on them?

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Speaker 4: All? Right? So I did this during a break. I

1937
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Speaker 4: actually rewound it because it was happening during our segment.

1938
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Speaker 4: During the commercial. I rewounded on the on the screen

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Speaker 4: here so I could see because I mean, when Kendrick

1940
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Speaker 4: Perkins talks, I need.

1941
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Speaker 3: To pay atten not a good way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's that's that's what we got in our

1943
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Speaker 4: in our post game, that's our one on one so

1944
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Speaker 4: that we can break down this game with analysis. And

1945
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Speaker 4: so Perkins, to his credit, said it was a team

1946
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Speaker 4: lost for the Lakers, and he said that Austin Reeves

1947
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Speaker 4: is the most important player on the Lakers, and that

1948
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Speaker 4: Reeves needs to have twenty a night. They were twenty

1949
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Speaker 4: seven to nine in the regular season when he had

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Speaker 4: twenty points or more. Even though Luca and Lebron are

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Speaker 4: the two best players, Austin Reeves is is the most

1952
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Speaker 4: important player. So because Austin Reeds has sixteen, you can

1953
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Speaker 4: kind of readbetween the lines as to what that means.

1954
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Speaker 4: But the guy that he went after the most was

1955
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Speaker 4: JJ Reddick, and it was about defense, and it was

1956
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Speaker 4: that JJ Reddick and their skill and their defensive schemes

1957
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 4: in the past two months have been centered basically on

1958
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Speaker 4: blocking off the album is blocking off the inside and

1959
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Speaker 4: forcing teams to shoot threes, and that Minnesota has professional

1960
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Speaker 4: guys that can really shoot the three and they were

1961
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Speaker 4: twenty one to forty two in this game, And so

1962
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Speaker 4: then he was like, what kind of adjustments are you

1963
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Speaker 4: gonna make? JJ? Because your defense wasn't good enough. Essentially,

1964
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Speaker 4: it's just like we understand that, right it was one

1965
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Speaker 4: seventeen to whatever. But to your point, all he basically

1966
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Speaker 4: said about Lebron during the entirety of this segment was

1967
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Speaker 4: he's like, what kind of adjustments you're gonna make? Are

1968
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Speaker 4: you gonna stop doing small ball so that you can

1969
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Speaker 4: get Lebron a little bit more involved? And basically he

1970
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Speaker 4: was saying that JJ needs to find a way to

1971
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Speaker 4: make Lebron more effective in addition to JJ being at

1972
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Speaker 4: fault because of no defensive adjustments, and that now he's

1973
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Speaker 4: gonna have to make a mid series adjustment because Minnesota

1974
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Speaker 4: is isn't going to bow down to the defense that

1975
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Speaker 4: he's been running for the last two months. So Lebron

1976
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Speaker 4: James was not at all to fault for this loss.

1977
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Speaker 4: It was JJ Reddick first and it was Austin Reeves second.

1978
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Speaker 2: Interesting since Austin Reeves had three fewer points on five

1979
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Speaker 2: fewer shots in Lebron James. Also worth noting Lebron James

1980
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Speaker 2: outscored by Nas Reed and Jaden McDaniels, as well as

1981
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Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards by the Minnesota Timberwolves.

1982
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Speaker 3: So that's interesting.

1983
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Speaker 2: Also interesting, of course, because JJ Reddick tried to give

1984
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Speaker 2: me a lecture on defense one time on social media,

1985
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Speaker 2: told me I didn't know what I was talking about.

1986
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Speaker 2: Apparently you know, I'm not gonna side with Perk here,

1987
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Speaker 2: but you know, once seventeen allowed. We were on air

1988
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Speaker 2: a few weeks ago when the Lakers gave up one

1989
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Speaker 2: forty six to the Chicago Bulls.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens there.

1991
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Speaker 2: Lakers again Timberwolve's game two on on Tuesday night in

1992
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles, Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Martin. Tell

1993
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Speaker 2: you what, j mart why don't we come back? And

1994
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Speaker 2: when we do, we will talk about Kevin Durant. Do

1995
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Speaker 2: have an interesting thought on him. With Mike Budenholzer out,

1996
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Speaker 2: we will discuss that next but first final time this evening.

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Speaker 2: Will get you out a few minutes early tonight to Seger,

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Speaker 2: my friend, what is trending?

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Speaker 6: Let's start with the Minnesota playoff opening win in LA

2000
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Speaker 6: over the Lakers one seventeen to ninety five by the way.

2001
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Speaker 6: Pretty much every playoff team in the West won about

2002
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Speaker 6: fifty games this year, and that includes the Timberwolves and

2003
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Speaker 6: the Lakers. Anthony Edwards twenty two points tonight and eight rebounds,

2004
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Speaker 6: nine assists, just one turnover mid third quarter. Minnesota led

2005
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Speaker 6: this game eighty to fifty four. Luka Doncic thirty seven

2006
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Speaker 6: points in the loss at New York a twenty one

2007
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Speaker 6: nothing run for the Knicks in the fourth quarter. This

2008
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Speaker 6: it will win against Detroit one, twenty three to one

2009
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Speaker 6: twelve Knicks. We're down eight with about nine minutes to go,

2010
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Speaker 6: but they take game one. Jalen Brunson thirty four points,

2011
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Speaker 6: eight assists, nineteen turnovers for the Piston, six by Kay Cunningham.

2012
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Speaker 6: Then there's the Clippers twenty turnovers blew a fifteen point

2013
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,839
Speaker 6: first half lead, lost in overtime at Denver, won twelve

2014
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Speaker 6: one ten by the way, seven turnovers from Kawhi Leonard,

2015
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Speaker 6: James Harden and defeat thirty two points, eleven assists. Nikola

2016
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Speaker 6: Jokic finished with twenty nine points, nine rebounds and twelve assists.

2017
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Speaker 6: The day started with Indiana's easy Game one win over Milwaukee,

2018
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,600
Speaker 6: won seventeen to ninety eight. Pacers were up in the

2019
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 6: third quarter seventy seven forty nine, Giannisan Tenacumpo thirty six points.

2020
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Speaker 6: Damian Lillard was still out. It sounds like he's coming

2021
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 6: back next week. NHL playoffs two openers Tonight's Winnipeg with

2022
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,679
Speaker 6: a game one win against Saint Louis in a comeback

2023
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 6: five to three, three goals in the third period. Colorado

2024
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 6: won at Dallas five to one. That game was two

2025
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 6: to one with about seven minutes left. The New York

2026
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 6: Rangers fired coach Peter lavio Let after missing the playoffs.

2027
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Speaker 6: Anaheim fired coach Greg Cronin a reminder, NASCAR's Cup Series

2028
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Speaker 6: is off Sunday for Easter. It will be on Fox

2029
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Speaker 6: TV the next Sunday. To Major League Baseball. Philadelphia eleven

2030
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 6: ten over the Miami Marlins, who've lost five in a row.

2031
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 6: Washington twelve eleven winners at Colorado, which is low seven straight.

2032
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 6: Cleveland won at Pittsburgh three nothing, beating Paul Skeins. Detroit

2033
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 6: is eight and one at home after its win against

2034
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 6: Kansas City three to one. The Royals have dropped six

2035
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Speaker 6: in a row wins at home for the Mets and

2036
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Speaker 6: the Cubs, and for Baltimore, which hit five home runs

2037
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Speaker 6: and beat the Reds nine to five in the game

2038
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Speaker 6: on Fox TV. For Texas, a Doulas Garcia a two

2039
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Speaker 6: run homer bottom of the ninth to beat the Dodgers

2040
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 6: and former Rangers closer Kirby Eights four to three. Seattlee

2041
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 6: in twelve innings won at Toronto eight to four. Rowdy

2042
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Speaker 6: tell Is a late Grand Slam Boston and ten innings

2043
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 6: edged the White Sox four to three. White Sox have

2044
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 6: lost six straight. Tampa Bay and ten innings beat the

2045
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 6: Yankees on a wide walk off homer ten to eight,

2046
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Speaker 6: and this is after the race scored four times in

2047
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,879
Speaker 6: the bottom of the eighth to tie the game. Houston

2048
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,719
Speaker 6: a three to two comeback winner over San Diego. Victories

2049
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 6: for the Braves, A's and the Giants, who took the

2050
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 6: late game three to two over the Angels despite two

2051
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 6: home runs from Mike Trout.

2052
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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much to Seger to Sigur,

2053
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 2: have a great evening back on Sunday. I enjoy the

2054
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 2: time with Chris Plank and whoever the heck he's hosting

2055
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Speaker 2: with tomorrow.

2056
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 4: Now.

2057
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:10,719
Speaker 2: I'm kidding Arnie Spanier, Chris Plank also Mark Willard Ephims.

2058
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the biggest Bryce James fan.

2059
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 3: Oh that's you know.

2060
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 2: He texted me because Yukon's playing home and home with

2061
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:21,799
Speaker 2: Arizona and they're playing in in Connecticut this year.

2062
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 3: And he's like, you gotta drive down Torres. I'll meet

2063
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,600
Speaker 3: you there. I'm like, you're not going stop? Yeah?

2064
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 2: What was the thing to saying? Or he had never

2065
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 2: been to Fenway Park or something like that. He's been there, like.

2066
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Speaker 6: Kep Sano, the Knicks are gonna have a big game.

2067
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 3: I gotta drive down.

2068
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Speaker 6: I'm going to Boston.

2069
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 3: They had a big game. I'm wondering about tickets.

2070
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 6: Oh, the NCAA tournament's gonna be in New England.

2071
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 3: I gotta drive down.

2072
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Speaker 4: You know.

2073
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 2: He never goes to it, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

2074
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Speaker 2: he when I was working with him, he had been

2075
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 2: there like ten years. Like I rather gotta get to

2076
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 2: Fenway Park. I'm like, yeah, you do, buddy. It's like,

2077
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 2: what are you doing in Vermont on a Tuesday that

2078
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 2: you can't drive to Boston, which is like two hours away.

2079
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Speaker 6: They could play a March Madness game in Burlington, Vermont

2080
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 6: And I'm guessing and he has a pass. He may

2081
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 6: not darken.

2082
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 2: It well, and it's amazing to Arnie's in the darkness

2083
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 2: or treated all well.

2084
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 3: It's funny because.

2085
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 2: I don't know what he does all day because the

2086
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 2: second something relevant happens.

2087
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 4: Not shovel snow. We know that he.

2088
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 3: Does his shovel snow.

2089
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 2: He uses the workout machine that his wife got him

2090
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 2: as a hangar. And uh, every time something relevant happens

2091
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 2: in sports, he's the first person to text me. So

2092
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if he just sits on Twitter all

2093
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 2: day or whatever.

2094
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 6: Arenie a lot of channels, I guess yeah, I mean

2095
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 6: he must does listen to our network.

2096
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 4: Right now.

2097
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 3: He might be listening right now. Hello, we'll talk to

2098
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Speaker 3: you tomorrow.

2099
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, well, Disagre, thank you so much. Arnie Spanier,

2100
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Chris Blank will be out at eleven pm Eastern and

2101
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 2: Disagrea will be with the crew before that. All right,

2102
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Speaker 2: j Martin, Let's let's go on and dive in because

2103
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 2: it was interesting. So, uh, Mike Budenholzer was fired this

2104
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 2: week Phoenix Sun's head coach. Why is that relevant? It

2105
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: is because this is the third straight year that a

2106
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 2: Phoenix Sun's head coach has been fired. This is also

2107
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 2: the third year that Kevin Durant has been in Phoenix.

2108
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 2: Obviously got traded during the twenty two to twenty three season.

2109
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 2: That was when Monty Williams was the head coach. He

2110
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 2: gets fired. Last year, they bring in Frank Vogel. Well,

2111
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 2: he's an NBA champion, he'll stick it out there for

2112
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 2: a while. Nope, he gets fired after one year. Mike

2113
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: Budenholzer comes in, he's the answer. Nope, they missed the

2114
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 2: playoffs and he gets fired after this year.

2115
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 4: And weird. I thought Phoenixes were supposed to rise from the.

2116
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 3: WHOA, Well, not these ones, I'll tell you that.

2117
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Speaker 2: And you brought up an interesting point in our our

2118
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Speaker 2: pre show kind of group chat, which is just basically,

2119
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Speaker 2: you know, at some point, like we know, Kevin Durant's

2120
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Speaker 2: an all time great, but been kind of sketchy in

2121
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 2: the post the post Golden State era. So I went

2122
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:55,599
Speaker 2: ahead and looked it up. He left Golden State after

2123
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen season, that is six seasons ago.

2124
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 2: In the six seasons that Kevin Durant since he left

2125
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 2: Golden State, which by the way, just feels like a

2126
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: long time. But anyway, six seasons, he has now had

2127
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 2: six different head coaches, Kenny Atkinson, who he never actually

2128
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 2: played for, because Kenny Atkinson was the head coach when

2129
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,200
Speaker 2: they went when him and Kyrie went to the Nets.

2130
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 2: By the way, ironically, if you remember, Kevin Durant said,

2131
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 2: I like the culture that he's built. Well, he didn't

2132
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 2: like it so much because he got fired after year,

2133
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 2: brought in Steve Nash.

2134
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 4: How's he doing now, by the way, I think he.

2135
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 3: Won some award the last couple of days or so much.

2136
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 4: I think he was named NBA Coach of the Year.

2137
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 3: Oh that the award, Okay, so yeah, that's the one.

2138
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 2: So Kenny Atkinson fired, which, by the way, that's relevant,

2139
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 2: was the NBA Coach of the Year. Steve Nash comes in.

2140
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 2: Doesn't work out that was their hand picked coach, although

2141
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 2: if you remember Kyrie Irving saying, we don't really need

2142
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 2: a coach. Some nights, I'll be that coach some nights,

2143
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 2: Steve Nash would be the coach some nights, Katy because so, yeah,

2144
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 2: Steve Nash. Steve Nash gets fired, they bring in Jock

2145
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Vaughan as an intern, ends up getting traded to Phoenix

2146
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 2: and as we mentioned Monty Williams, Mike Budenholzer, and then

2147
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,879
Speaker 2: in between was Frank Vogel a year ago. Six coaches

2148
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 2: in six years, by the way, kind of worth noting.

2149
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 2: I believe his last two years in Okase he had

2150
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 2: two different coaches Scotti Brooks than one year of Billy Donovan.

2151
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 3: So my math is right.

2152
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: Eight coaches in the last eight seasons not played in

2153
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 2: the Golden with Golden State. I thought it was a

2154
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 2: great point by you, very talented player, but Kevin r

2155
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 2: had a coach killer.

2156
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 4: If he's not a coach killer, I think he might

2157
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 4: be a culture killer. Because who outside of Golden State

2158
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 4: was already good before he got there, had already won

2159
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 4: championships before he got there. Who who has flourished with him?

2160
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 4: And I mean on the floor or off really, I

2161
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 4: mean like Booker certainly had a good start, but Phoenix

2162
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 4: was already built in a different way. And to acquire

2163
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 4: him you got rid of all your defense. But back

2164
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 4: into the nets situation and everything else. I mean, the

2165
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 4: common denominator with all these coaches is they all lost

2166
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 4: their jobs with Kevin Durant as the player, and Kevin

2167
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 4: Durant even when he was in Oklahoma City, and as

2168
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 4: a thunderfan, I'm gonna tell you this, it was a

2169
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 4: lot of hero ball. It was a lot of dudes

2170
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 4: standing around watching both Durant and Westbrook and sometimes when

2171
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 4: they got the ball they didn't know what to do

2172
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 4: with it because they weren't familiar with it. And I think, like,

2173
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 4: he can be your best player because he's almost always

2174
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,760
Speaker 4: going to be on any roster that he plays on,

2175
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 4: he's probably the best player. But do you flourish around him?

2176
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:36,759
Speaker 4: If you're a role player, does he make you better

2177
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 4: on a consistent basis? And for a coach, it just

2178
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 4: seems like you should be able to win with him,

2179
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 4: But there's always baggage, right, there's always an injury, or

2180
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 4: there's always something where it just doesn't click right. And

2181
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,759
Speaker 4: it's not about his ability. He's one of the greatest

2182
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 4: players to ever lace up shoes, like he's one of

2183
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 4: the greatest basketball players to ever live, but that doesn't

2184
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 4: necessar mean he's a great teammate. And you really look

2185
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 4: at everything that has happened. Whose culture has been better

2186
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 4: for Kevin Durant being there, and then how has that

2187
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 4: culture been after he left. It's almost like he leaves

2188
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 4: a blaze and then he goes and he starts a

2189
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 4: fire somewhere else, and it's I think a lot of

2190
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 4: it is his discontent and his constant search for happiness

2191
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 4: and being way too in his feelings on social media

2192
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 4: and all of these other things. But coaches take the

2193
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 4: blame for him because he's Kevin Durant. You should be

2194
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,719
Speaker 4: winning with that guy. It's got to be on you,

2195
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 4: but that's not the case. Like the reason he's he's

2196
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 4: not winning, I think largely is because he's hard to

2197
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 4: win with because of the way he plays. He has

2198
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 4: to be as dominant as he is. He loves the basketball,

2199
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 4: and not that he's selfish, but just the manner in

2200
01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 4: which he plays is more isolation and it's more I'm

2201
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 4: going to find a way to make this thing work.

2202
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 4: And I think that that doesn't play as well as

2203
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 4: some of these other guys, Like there's a there's a

2204
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 4: chemistry issue there on the floor, but the biggest thing

2205
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 4: is whatever the attitude is and whatever is going on

2206
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, like you are not long for this

2207
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 4: coaching world in your current job. If the rant is

2208
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,960
Speaker 4: there and it just seems like it gets reflected like

2209
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 4: there's something off here. But the fact that this has

2210
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 4: happened so often, I have a hard time just saying

2211
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 4: this is a coincidence because it's gone on too long,

2212
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 4: There's been too many coaches. There's got to be something.

2213
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,759
Speaker 4: He's either a coach killer, or he's a culture killer,

2214
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 4: or he is some version of both. But something is

2215
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 4: off because he should have won more by this point.

2216
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 4: It's not all injuries. Injuries certainly harmed him, but there's

2217
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 4: something else here, and I don't know specifically what it is.

2218
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 4: It's just a theory. I threw it out to you,

2219
01:50:55,400 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 4: but I feel like something for a long long time

2220
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,520
Speaker 4: has been wrong with the Kevin Durant experiment.

2221
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 3: So a couple of things.

2222
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 2: One, I think you'd even argue he was a pseudo

2223
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 2: coach culture killer in Golden State. I mean, it was

2224
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 2: a you know, happy you know, everybody gets along, and

2225
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 2: then that first year they win the title, and then

2226
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 2: he doesn't feel like he's getting the credit that he deserves,

2227
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 2: and then he comes back in the next couple of years.

2228
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 3: It seemed like it was miserable.

2229
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 4: I mean, we know that Drake Draymond had fight.

2230
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

2231
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 2: Draymond called him out, and so I think even in

2232
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: and then oh, by the way, Golden State won a

2233
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: title without him a couple of years later. So it's like,

2234
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 2: I think you can even argue that that he was

2235
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 2: a culture killer in Golden State.

2236
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 3: To a degree.

2237
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 2: But then on top of it, I think it's exactly

2238
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 2: what what we've I think we've talked about on this

2239
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 2: show for years, which is that there's just something about

2240
01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:49,919
Speaker 2: incredible talent that just seems like, no matter what happens,

2241
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 2: he's just never happy man. And it's like, you know,

2242
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 2: part of the reason that he's a coach killer, culture killer,

2243
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 2: whatever is that, you know, he's so kind of.

2244
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 3: Like seat of the pants, and it's like you look.

2245
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: At the the the the Brooklyn experience. First of all,

2246
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 2: like we said, Kenny Atkinson's there, he doesn't want Kenny

2247
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: Akinson anymore, brings in his own coach. Then he wants,

2248
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 2: you know, James Harden, Then he wants this, then he

2249
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 2: wants that, you know, James Harden gets traded whatever, and

2250
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 2: then he wants to go to Phoenix and and you

2251
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,600
Speaker 2: know it's easy to forget now, but like when he

2252
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 2: demands a trade, uh, the only team he really wants

2253
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 2: to go to his Phoenix, and they got to trade.

2254
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 3: They got to trade everything.

2255
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: They have to get them, and so it's like, I

2256
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I I in some ways I feel

2257
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: bad because he's incredibly talented, but I just think, like

2258
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 2: the like the I don't even know the right way

2259
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 2: to put it, because he's clearly, uh, incredibly talented. I

2260
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 2: think he's an incredibly smart guy. But it's like the

2261
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:55,400
Speaker 2: decision making in the way that he gets there, the

2262
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:58,919
Speaker 2: the the players that he's aligned himself with the decision

2263
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 2: to get traded to Phoenix where that's the only place

2264
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 2: he wants to go, they have to trade everybody. I'll

2265
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 2: be quick.

2266
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 4: That's the biggest problem. That's I mean, that's the biggest

2267
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 4: issue is the Phoenix he wanted to join wasn't going

2268
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 4: to be the Phoenix he joined because of what they

2269
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 4: had to get rid of to bring him there. Yes, like,

2270
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 4: unless he just thought it was going to be me

2271
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,560
Speaker 4: and Booker and that was going to be enough, or

2272
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 4: it was gonna be me and Booker and Chris Paul

2273
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 4: and that was going to be enough. First off, I mean,

2274
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 4: that's very naive if that's the case, because again and

2275
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 4: then Bradley Beal, like, what are we doing here? Like Bradley,

2276
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 4: all you have is three dudes that don't want to

2277
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 4: play defense on a consistent basis. Like Durant at times

2278
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 4: commits on the defensive side, but it's not really his

2279
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 4: skill set now, it's not what he's going to commit

2280
01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 4: most of his time to, especially as he's aging. And

2281
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 4: Devin Booker wants to shoot the ball and Bradley Beal

2282
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 4: wants to shoot the ball. And that's it. And you

2283
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 4: get rid of Bridges, and you get rid of these

2284
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 4: guys that were doing some of that dirty work. You

2285
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:55,120
Speaker 4: get rid of the blue collar guys that you need

2286
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 4: that actually make that team more of a family as

2287
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 4: opposed to the Harlem Globetrotters or something like that. And

2288
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,640
Speaker 4: that's what it is. It's like, Yeah, I want to

2289
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 4: go join Phoenix, but I want to find a way

2290
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 4: to join them where they don't have to get rid

2291
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 4: of any of the assets that are there, because I'm

2292
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 4: the perfect piece to add to all of what is there.

2293
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 4: That's not how things work in a sport that has

2294
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 4: a salary gap, how things work when there's a luxury

2295
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 4: tax and all these other things. And it's certainly not

2296
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,920
Speaker 4: like the nets. We're just going to say, yeah, you

2297
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 4: can have Kevin Durant. All we need is I don't know,

2298
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 4: you guys, I have no idea what's available, and all

2299
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 4: we need is Arnie span your back. We need something

2300
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 4: from Arizona back, so we'll take him. That's not how

2301
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 4: this works. So Kevin Durant, I think makes some knee

2302
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 4: knee jerk decisions without fully considering the ramifications. Yeah, we

2303
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 4: could go on and on.

2304
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 2: I'll say this, Listen, I know everybody loves to take

2305
01:54:50,520 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 2: victory laps in our business. Two things that I never bought.

2306
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 2: One was the idea of exactly what you just said

2307
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 2: that I understand why you want to trade for Kevin,

2308
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 2: but what they gave up eliminated what made the Suns

2309
01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 2: the desirable location that they were. The second one, when

2310
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 2: Bradley Beal got traded, everyone gets so excited, and I

2311
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 2: remember saying at the time, this is just a slightly

2312
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 2: more functional, slightly less out of control Katie Kyrie and

2313
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 2: James Harden. We just saw that three stars and no

2314
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 2: one around them does not work. And it's the same

2315
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 2: thing in Phoenix. Mike Budenholzer out sounds like Kevin Durant's

2316
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 2: gonna get traded. Sounds like they want to trade Bradley

2317
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Beal and nobody wants them. It is a mess. In Phoenix,

2318
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Martin. We will come back

2319
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 2: wrap the show, look ahead to Sunday's NBA games and

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01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 2: of course the NFL Draft Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to tune in also to Fox Sports Radios

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Speaker 2: Draft Night Live, which is Thursday, eight pm Eastern throughout

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Speaker 2: the first round of the Draft insider j Glazer, former

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Speaker 2: Jets GM Joe Douglas, college Football Hall of Famer LeVar

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Speaker 2: Arrington and Fox Sports lead college football reporter Jenny Taft

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Speaker 2: will have you covered for all thirty two picks with

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Speaker 2: predictions and reactions. That's Thursday, eight pm Eastern throughout the

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Speaker 2: first round of the Draft, live right here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio and with live video simulcast on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio's YouTube page. Brought to you by Dollars Shave Club

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Speaker 2: Jay Martins. We wrapped the show. Let's look ahead a

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Speaker 2: little but to this week really quickly, NFL Draft. What

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Speaker 2: do you think all the great shows that are on

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Speaker 2: Friday morning and of course Thursday night Jason Smith will

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Speaker 2: be following, Uh, you know, Jay Glazer, Joe Douglas, Jenny Taft,

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Speaker 2: and LeVar Arrington. What do you think the biggest story

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Speaker 2: coming out of Night one of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: Will be Shadre Sanders. H Shaudre Sanders to the Giants?

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Speaker 4: Who that's actually that's what's gonna happen. I Like, I

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Speaker 4: was about to say the Saints, but I just feel

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Speaker 4: like Shadoor Sanders to the Giants, even with Russell Wilson there,

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Speaker 4: it just makes too much sense. I'm not saying the

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Speaker 4: right pick necessarily, It's just exactly what I expect the

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Speaker 4: Giants to do in this situation. And maybe it offers

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Speaker 4: a chance for Brian Dable to argue, Yeah, give me

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Speaker 4: a chance with a new quarterback that I can you've

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Speaker 4: seen what I was able to do with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 4: or he can point to that kind of time and

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Speaker 4: find his way back there. So for some reason, I

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Speaker 4: just I think they're going to take Shad or Sanders

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Speaker 4: at three.

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Speaker 2: So I actually think both things that you said. I

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Speaker 2: think that the Giants are taking Shad Door at three,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna be the biggest story obviously

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Speaker 2: of the opening night of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think there's been a lot of smoke.

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Speaker 2: I think that, you know, everybody's trying to throw everybody

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Speaker 2: else off. I think all season long, everybody thought Schador

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Speaker 2: was a first round pick, and now you know, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Funny, have it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had family in town this weekend and

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Speaker 2: we were talking a lot about this is like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy to me, it is, but it isn't how

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Speaker 2: one report can just catch like wildfire. You know, like

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Speaker 2: you see these reports, so you know, according to so

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Speaker 2: and so, they talked to a an NFL scout who

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Speaker 2: says that shit or could be a second round pick.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, so one scout said one one thing

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Speaker 2: like and that's you know, that's just a fact, like

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Speaker 2: is the scout drafting in the first round or they

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Speaker 2: need a quarterback if they evaluated them whatever. So I'm

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Speaker 2: with you with Shador really quickly. For NBA games on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: we mentioned him a minute ago. But for people that

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Speaker 2: need to know, Memphis, OKC, Orlando, Boston, Miami, Cleveland, Golden State, Houston.

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Speaker 2: We got about ten seconds. But which one are you

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Speaker 2: most looking forward to?

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Speaker 4: It's the last one. It's Golden State Houston. I actually

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Speaker 4: think the first three could all be pretty close to

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Speaker 4: blowouts in favor of the home team. Houston. Golden State

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Speaker 4: is interesting to me because Golden State can be very

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Speaker 4: hot or very not and Houston is one of those

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Speaker 4: teams that's very unproven.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree on that. I'm actually most intrigued by

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Speaker 2: that game. As we'll tell you what we got to

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Speaker 2: get out of here. I want to thank the crew.

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Speaker 2: Mary Mack on the board producer Brie also Ian I

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Speaker 2: think Steve Seger from a part ofer Jason Martin on Meritors.

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