Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two on this lovely Friday
Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh. He has met Williams and I'm Dale
Speaker 2: Lolly and it is mock draft time. And as we
Speaker 2: have done this week, we've done. We'll do a third
Speaker 2: mark this week. Our first one. On Monday, we didn't
Speaker 2: make any.
Speaker 3: Trades, right, we set down some ground rules.
Speaker 2: On Wednesday we did a one trademark.
Speaker 3: Did we end up trading down? Yes?
Speaker 2: In the second round, did we did? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And today's trade, we're gonna we're gonna go a little
Speaker 2: trade crazy. We'll probably do this and we won't get
Speaker 2: any offers. Yeah, but we'll see.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna this one will be the most unrealistic, but
Speaker 3: it's fun once in a while just to go crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this one a little slower in case
Speaker 2: we want to trade up.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's always hard to do on these Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because you got to if you're doing it fast, and
Speaker 2: you got to be able to see what's happening. Drake
Speaker 2: May went number one overall well, that's a little crazy.
Speaker 2: So the quarterbacks are kind of sliding a little bit here.
Speaker 2: They picked ten Pick ten with Byron Murphy, Gwennia Mitchell
Speaker 2: just went on eleven Terry and Arnold at thirteen, jayde
Speaker 2: and Daniels fall goes all the way to fourteen. Cornerbacks
Speaker 2: seem okay, that's kind of like So here's the problem.
Speaker 2: We get five trade offers. Five.
Speaker 3: I need to know who's available.
Speaker 2: Because the top two players available right now are Cooper
Speaker 2: Dejene and Jackson Power.
Speaker 3: Johnson and I Nice. Well that's what you want.
Speaker 2: If you had to make that choice, I would too. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would too.
Speaker 3: Who were fallback plans if we were happening to move back.
Speaker 2: Also available late two. I'm not getting not interested there,
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas.
Speaker 3: I'd be interested, I bet you if you're picking up
Speaker 3: a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Troy Franklin, Lab McConkie, Amarius Mims, Fatanu Graham Barton,
Speaker 2: Enus Rakestraw. We could move back some, we could.
Speaker 3: I do think those two kind of stand out at
Speaker 3: the top.
Speaker 2: Though they do. Tyler Geitten is still there. Let's see
Speaker 2: who is on the phone. We got to at least
Speaker 2: so the next The first team that's on the phone
Speaker 2: here is Detroit. They have the twenty ninth pick.
Speaker 3: Pretty far far, that's a pretty far drop. One of
Speaker 3: those two could make it.
Speaker 2: They could, you know, they could. I doubt it. I doubt.
Speaker 2: Also on the phone are the Raiders at forty four,
Speaker 2: the Colts at forty six, Jacksonville forty eight, and Seattle
Speaker 2: at seventy eight.
Speaker 3: So the heck of it, let's talk to Detroit.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see what they would I don't think. Well,
Speaker 2: the problem is once we accept the trade, I got it.
Speaker 3: We we can't talk negotiate with others.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so twenty nine would obviously and we would
Speaker 2: give up twenty. Would they give us sixty one? Probably?
Speaker 2: They would probably give us their second round pick? Come
Speaker 2: up nine.
Speaker 3: That's about what I need, because that's a far jump.
Speaker 3: And I couldn't come up with nine names that I
Speaker 3: thought were comparable to the gene or Powers Johnson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, gus kind of the problem.
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: I want a little bit more than just than just
Speaker 2: another second round.
Speaker 3: Pick, even a future pick.
Speaker 2: Or will they give us their third next year? No,
Speaker 2: they would not say that sounds rich. Fourth next year.
Speaker 2: They probably there's a fifty three percent chance they would
Speaker 2: give us their fourth next year.
Speaker 3: I mean if if they're if they say yes to that.
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna miss out on.
Speaker 3: But this is the trade mania, This is all the
Speaker 3: way to fifty I hear you. Yeah, I just want
Speaker 3: to see how this build ends.
Speaker 2: On the interesting thing. So if we trade, we make
Speaker 2: this trade, we got two second round picks, right, if
Speaker 2: we then want to come up from after we pick.
Speaker 3: At twenty nine, we need to pay attention to that.
Speaker 2: We need to pay attention because we probably can't. Do
Speaker 2: you want to offer that trade?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, trade has been offered and they
Speaker 2: accepted it.
Speaker 3: Did they take the gene?
Speaker 2: They came up and took Cooper dig Brian Thomas just
Speaker 2: went Powers, Johnson went A two, went, Franklin went, Geiton,
Speaker 2: went Mconkeye, Fatano, Peyton Wilson.
Speaker 3: So I think Barton and Memes are still there from
Speaker 3: my recollection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So here's what's available. Memes still available, Barton still available,
Speaker 2: Reke Straw still available, uh JJ McCarthy, Tyler newban Zach Fraser,
Speaker 2: Chris Braswell, Bo Nicks, TJ Tampa Jordan Morgan.
Speaker 3: Do you agree you'd take Barton over Fraser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, I think better size and yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we have three trade offers. Again though.
Speaker 3: Barton and Memes are my favorite of that group.
Speaker 2: There's there's a group there. So if we don't have
Speaker 2: to move down far.
Speaker 3: If we could just go down three four spots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see who's on the phone. San Francisco's on
Speaker 2: the phone. They're picking at thirty one. Let's let's I'll
Speaker 2: just listen to that.
Speaker 3: I'll do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is thirty one twenty nine. Uh, they're
Speaker 2: not going to give us sixty three to move up
Speaker 2: two spots now, but I'll take a look. No, they
Speaker 2: won't won't do that. All they got they got two
Speaker 2: third round picks, they get ninety four, and they got
Speaker 2: a compick at ninety eight.
Speaker 3: I think a third would be plenty for me to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: So if we go, if we do that, they would
Speaker 2: give us ninety four. From what it looks like, it'd
Speaker 2: be a fifty nine percent chance that that would happen.
Speaker 2: But we've already picked up an extra pick. I want
Speaker 2: to be thrown two thirty eight. Yeah, because we don't
Speaker 2: need that because we've already got one extra pick that
Speaker 2: we came into this.
Speaker 3: I know we're gonna up with a bunch of picks.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, that's gonna be a punter in
Speaker 3: a matter.
Speaker 2: So if we're giving up two thirty eight, can we
Speaker 2: get something else from them? Let's say future something or
Speaker 2: they have a compick at one seventy six. Okay, looks
Speaker 2: like they made you that. There's a forty nine percent
Speaker 2: chance that they would do that.
Speaker 3: Let's let's give it a shot.
Speaker 2: They did not accept that, didn't they They also have
Speaker 2: two nine, two fourteen, two fifteen. Can we get a
Speaker 2: future get they get the comp pick they got ninety
Speaker 2: four and ninety eight if we slide back for the
Speaker 2: comp pick at ninety eight.
Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you're saying. Offer the same deal, but.
Speaker 2: Instead of ninety four, offer ninety eight a fifty eight
Speaker 2: percent chance. That's accepted. That's fine, they accepted it, went
Speaker 2: for that. Okay, Yeah, okay, let's see who the picks are.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be Mems and Barton. Watch.
Speaker 3: Oh I'd imagine, well, I bet one of them too,
Speaker 3: is I did rag straw the then I'd be fine
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's three guys there, Mims, Donnie Mitchell goes to
Speaker 2: the Ravens. Okay, that would be receiver for for the
Speaker 2: last five years for the Ravens with their topic. Yeah, Bateman, yeah,
Speaker 2: uh so, Graham Barton's there, enis Rakestraws and we have
Speaker 2: five trade offers now right now. So here's what we've
Speaker 2: gotten out of this. We've got thirty one, fifty two,
Speaker 2: sixty one, eighty four, ninety eight one, twenty one, twenty
Speaker 2: one and another pick after is awesome.
Speaker 3: We also don't have any players.
Speaker 2: This is what the Browns are doing for a number
Speaker 2: of years. I can't remember. I can remember arguing with
Speaker 2: David Todd about this because they kept trading away picks
Speaker 2: a year after year after year, and I'm like, at
Speaker 2: some points, you got to make the picks. At some
Speaker 2: point you got to pick those players.
Speaker 3: I love doing it though, especially with future picks, and
Speaker 3: you forget you had an extra fourth and all those things.
Speaker 2: Who's on the phone. The Falcons are on the phone.
Speaker 2: They got forty three, that's a and then you're looking
Speaker 2: at Indianapolis at forty six, Miami at fifty three, Buffalo
Speaker 2: at sixty, Denver at six to seventy six.
Speaker 3: I think we take Barton, we would get right here.
Speaker 2: If we made a deal with with Denver, we're definitely
Speaker 2: getting next year's first.
Speaker 3: Which could be a top five pick.
Speaker 2: If we make a trade with the Bills, we're probably
Speaker 2: getting next years first. Yes, yeah, yeah, we're trading a
Speaker 2: first round draft pick here, even though though it's late lately.
Speaker 2: But that's all right. Now, we got to make a
Speaker 2: pick here. Yeah, we may even move now, we might
Speaker 2: move up in the second.
Speaker 3: We take Barton and Rakestraw falls five six more spots.
Speaker 3: Maybe we make a call.
Speaker 2: You want to take Barton here?
Speaker 3: Either one's fine. That was my next conversation is which
Speaker 3: one do you prefer?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fill that need at center. There's more, there's
Speaker 2: more cornerbacks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not in love with Rake Shaw, Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I think he's clearly the best one out there at
Speaker 3: a big knee position. Yeah, and fits.
Speaker 2: I mean, here's what's still available at cornerback. You're looking
Speaker 2: at Rakestraw, TJ Tampa Lassiter, Santa Istro, Kyrie Jackson, Jerry
Speaker 2: and Jones cam Hart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there'll be somebody at our next We'll get somebody
Speaker 3: Barton's a good player. That's a foundational guy. I'm finding it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so Barton, the pick is in. We
Speaker 2: take Graham Barton, TJ. Tampa went next, Rakestraw just went,
Speaker 2: Nuban went, Keemon, Coleman, Zach Frazier just went, Kamari Lassiter went,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna pause here. So Washington is up
Speaker 2: at forty. I don't know that our next pick at
Speaker 2: fifty one. So again, the guys that went after.
Speaker 3: We picked ray Shaw still there, right, No, he first pick.
Speaker 2: Of the round after we picked it was Tampa, Rakestraw, Nuban, Coleman,
Speaker 2: Zach Frasier, Kamari Lassiter, ADSA, Isaac J. J. McCarthy.
Speaker 3: Who would you want to trade up here for?
Speaker 2: Though Tampa's off the board, he's gone, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Just wanted this pause.
Speaker 2: The cornerbacks got hit pretty hard there, they did.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we want to make a move
Speaker 2: up to try to I don't.
Speaker 3: Know who even before though. I mean, if we're going
Speaker 3: to trade up, I need a distinct targeted.
Speaker 2: Well they don't. They don't have the I can't get
Speaker 2: to that list.
Speaker 3: But I don't remember one or two of them from
Speaker 3: when we went through that that was heads above the right.
Speaker 2: I'm going to resume here. We got twelve more picks
Speaker 2: before we get to ours. Washington takes Bo Nicks, Darius Robinson.
Speaker 3: Goes, that would interesting.
Speaker 2: Trump Robinson, Xavier Worthy, Roman Wilson, Mike Sandastrils, Kingsley, Sumataia,
Speaker 2: Jayden Hicks went all right, we are up again. We
Speaker 2: got one trade offer here, but Jatavian sand Sanders, Jermaine Burton,
Speaker 2: Jonah Ellis, Jalen Polk, Javon Bollard, Kyrie Jackson, Chris Jenkins,
Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks, Klen Bullock, Ricky Pearsaw. We get another pick coming.
Speaker 2: It was sixty one here. I think you take a
Speaker 2: corner back. Yeah, I think you know, given this, I
Speaker 2: think you got to take Kyrie Jackson.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he just gotta be make sure you
Speaker 3: check that box. Yeah, okay, and he fits he fits
Speaker 3: them all. Oh yeah, yeah, he's big.
Speaker 2: Enough to ride, all right, Kyrie Jackson, it is yeah,
Speaker 2: pear Saw. Now the question is do we want to
Speaker 2: move up and try to get one of these receivers
Speaker 2: because they're getting picked through pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: Who are the ones that just went Polk just went
Speaker 3: and there was another name.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, there were a couple more there that green
Speaker 2: Bay's not going to take one here.
Speaker 3: They won't. No, No, I'm I'm not thrilled about moving up,
Speaker 3: but I just think he'll lose mostly when you move up.
Speaker 2: Okay, green Bay takes Javon Bullard. Jermaine Burton just went.
Speaker 2: Jalen McMillan just went. Junior Colson just went. All right,
Speaker 2: we're up here now sixty one. Chris Jenkins is still there.
Speaker 3: That could be convinced.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks, Kaylen Bullock, Yale offensive tackle, Christian Haynes, Brayln Trice,
Speaker 2: Michael Pratt, Ruke of Roer Hero.
Speaker 3: Would you take Ruke or Jenkins?
Speaker 2: I mean, Ruke is the Jenkins is probably gonna blow
Speaker 2: up the combine.
Speaker 3: He says, no, production, that's a typical Michigan. Yeah there,
Speaker 3: if you look at I mean, he's gonna do well
Speaker 3: to combine too.
Speaker 2: He's gonna do well to combine as well. He hit
Speaker 2: five sacks last year. I like him, but you can
Speaker 2: get to the quarterback and he's six four ninety five.
Speaker 2: He's longer, he's longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna do it well.
Speaker 2: We have four trade offers here.
Speaker 3: Well, if we're gonna move down a hand full spots,
Speaker 3: one of the two.
Speaker 2: Should still be Yeah, let's see who's Oh well, this
Speaker 2: is interesting because the Carolina Panthers are on the phone.
Speaker 2: They have picked sixty.
Speaker 3: Five and this we're at the end of the second.
Speaker 2: We're at sixty one.
Speaker 3: Oh, let's do business with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they have sixty five, we would offer sixty
Speaker 2: one from them. I want a pick next year. That'd
Speaker 2: be great. If you get a third, I would do
Speaker 2: it in a heartbeat. They would not do it for
Speaker 2: a three. They would do it for a four, but
Speaker 2: they would give us something else as well.
Speaker 3: Ya sake, we pick up something this year, move up
Speaker 3: with our last pick or something.
Speaker 2: We're at one ninety eight. Let's see if they'll go
Speaker 2: one ninety eight for one sixty five. Well, they would
Speaker 2: definitely do that. What about one o two? Not going
Speaker 2: to do that? Okay, let's see if I if I
Speaker 2: take that one off the board, So they would do
Speaker 2: from the looks of it, sixty one. We would give
Speaker 2: up sixty one and one ninety eight for sixty five
Speaker 2: and one oh two.
Speaker 3: I believe sixty one and sixty five are basically the same.
Speaker 3: Basically say we're going to get the I think we'll
Speaker 3: get one of those two D tackles. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: on that. If you don't want to do that, it's
Speaker 3: instead of the future. Well, let's see if it may
Speaker 3: they'll throw a six or something because they're gonna stink.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see if we'll toss in If we toss
Speaker 2: in our seventh, that gives it a forty percent chance.
Speaker 2: Let's let's see if they'll throw it through. Let's see
Speaker 2: if they they did not accept it.
Speaker 3: Run into that all right, let's future seven. Don't buy
Speaker 3: your whole one.
Speaker 2: No, no, we don't have a sixth next year. That's that.
Speaker 2: We do have two fifths next year. We have two
Speaker 2: fourths and two fifths next year.
Speaker 3: What if we turn our fifth into their fourth?
Speaker 2: We can try that.
Speaker 3: I mean that might be a fifty you know, pick jump.
Speaker 2: That is a thirty two percent chance happened.
Speaker 3: Now, what if they just throw in this future sixth?
Speaker 3: We give up nothing from the next year because we
Speaker 3: don't have.
Speaker 2: A six sixty three percent chance that that that's that's
Speaker 2: our five. That's a thirty six percent year.
Speaker 3: They're not going to do that, Do the original deal.
Speaker 3: We don't think get the future stuff involved.
Speaker 2: All right, they didn't take it and a forty per chance.
Speaker 3: Huh okay, well let's not move up. We'll move back
Speaker 3: the five spots.
Speaker 2: Let's see what's see if we'll get.
Speaker 3: A future fourth.
Speaker 2: So if we go sixty one and one seventy six,
Speaker 2: which is San Francisco's comp pick at the end of
Speaker 2: the fifth round for sixty five and one two.
Speaker 3: I would do that.
Speaker 2: That one they accepted, all right, clock here in zoom,
Speaker 2: Christian Haynes. They took Yale tight End went Jonathan Brooks
Speaker 2: went first pick of the third round. We have the
Speaker 2: same pick between Jenkins and Auror Hero.
Speaker 3: Since this is trade thoron is anybody calling?
Speaker 2: We have two teams. The Jets are on the phone.
Speaker 2: They have seventy two. I don't want to go down
Speaker 2: that far, and the Falcons at seventy four. I think
Speaker 2: I think we make a.
Speaker 3: Pick here, all right, your call, I think we'd like
Speaker 3: I'll go.
Speaker 2: For the guy who has actual production, and that's aur
Speaker 2: Hero were Horror. It's for people who don't know. It's
Speaker 2: O r H O r h O r oh. Yes,
Speaker 2: and his first name is Ruke there's a lot of
Speaker 2: ours in there.
Speaker 3: Tukes is gone, Ruke's is coming. I mean, I just
Speaker 3: don't say the last name. Yeah, all right, No, that's
Speaker 3: a nice guy to pick up. He is the pick,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson went next, Blake Fish or Chris Jenkins Xavier again?
Speaker 3: Interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brendan Rice devontees Walker, we're seeing it, Jamari Thrash.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of receivers running off the
Speaker 2: board there, don't yet, we don't have any it wor
Speaker 2: it's picked seventy six our pick is it? Or we're
Speaker 2: pick eighty four. We're currently at pick seventy six.
Speaker 3: Do you know that I just don't know the name?
Speaker 2: Again, I don't, Yeah, I don't, but I know that
Speaker 2: a bunch of them just rolled off the board there.
Speaker 2: Malachai Corley is still sitting out there.
Speaker 3: Oh, I would trade up for Corley. We can make
Speaker 3: an offer for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're gonna have to probably give a lot up.
Speaker 2: So Denver would get seventy six, and we're coming up
Speaker 2: from eighty four, so not far. What if we give
Speaker 2: up one twenty one? They would do that? Do we
Speaker 2: want to pick up something?
Speaker 3: Let's get a future pick from them. They're gonna stick to.
Speaker 2: And we'll do four or six, or they would do
Speaker 2: a sixth.
Speaker 3: That's enough, so it'd be eighty four. I'd give up
Speaker 3: that for quarterly.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 3: I think Corley would fit in this new offense. Well, block,
Speaker 3: he's physical. After the catch, they didn't take it.
Speaker 2: They didn't accept it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's forget the we've never tried trading up.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's harder to trade up.
Speaker 2: It is, yeah, because they have to want to do it.
Speaker 3: They might have a guy that they want.
Speaker 2: It's eighty four and one twenty one for seventy six
Speaker 2: and a six rounder next year.
Speaker 3: Let's scrap this.
Speaker 2: And it says it says it will likely be accepted,
Speaker 2: but they're not accepting it. All right. They took that one.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine. We trade down so much. Now we're
Speaker 3: going to go trade up for a need. I like,
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2: Uh, Prattic is there as well, but I think i'm Corley. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Malachi Corley. It is seventy six.
Speaker 3: I'm very happy with that. I think he's a second rounder.
Speaker 3: And now we got some were still we've made four
Speaker 3: picks right, four, center, corner, d line, Oh, you're right right, okay,
Speaker 3: right back, linebacker, safety, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We're back up here at ninety eight. If there's a
Speaker 2: quarterback there that we love, yeah, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2: then all right, we're back up here at ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Top players available, a bunch of running backs. Blake Corham,
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving, Mason McCormick, the guard out of South Dakota State,
Speaker 2: Michael Hall, the defensive lineman out of Ohio State, Ray Davis,
Speaker 2: Tommy Eikenberg, Dwayne Carter, cad Stover the tight end from
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Jacob Colling, wide receiver from Arizona, Marshawn Lloyd, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Dominic Pooney, Leonard Taylor, Jarvis Brownlee the cornerback out of Louisville.
Speaker 2: Max Melton is there.
Speaker 3: We took a corner, but we could take one of
Speaker 3: those two.
Speaker 2: Javonne Baker's there. We took a wide receiver to Tyke
Speaker 2: Smith is there.
Speaker 3: That's not bad. Safety, linebacker, tackle would be my targets.
Speaker 2: Let's let's take a look at the linebackers and grays there.
Speaker 2: The linebacker you're looking at, Eikenberg Michael Barrett out of Michigan, Bertrand,
Speaker 2: Cedric Gray, Steel Chambers.
Speaker 3: I'd consider Gray there. There's safety that jumps.
Speaker 2: Off probably like the safeties a little bits Georgia. We
Speaker 2: had another pick coming at one O two. By the way,
Speaker 2: where we're at now with numbers ninety eight safeties, you've
Speaker 2: got Dadrian Taylor Emerson out of Texas Tech, Tyke Smith,
Speaker 2: Cole Bishop Bo, Brady, Malika Mustafa.
Speaker 3: Any of those games are fine with me. I mean,
Speaker 3: I like the safety linebacker Combo, can you check tackles
Speaker 3: real quick? Like if the pit kids there, I'd consider it.
Speaker 2: The cornerbacks just pretty Brown is there, Max Melton's there,
Speaker 2: Like if one of those guys was more of a slot, yeah,
Speaker 2: i'd be I would be interested in that.
Speaker 3: It's never a bad position to have one too many at.
Speaker 2: It's like Brownley has done the most of it.
Speaker 3: I think Brown is a good player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else do you want to look at?
Speaker 3: Tackles? But I bet that's a pick through.
Speaker 2: Uh Pooney is the best one there.
Speaker 3: He might be hard.
Speaker 2: Christian Jones is there. Yeah, we got more picks.
Speaker 3: So you want to take you to take Brownlee.
Speaker 2: Let's say I think I think he's the best.
Speaker 3: I think he's the best guy on the board.
Speaker 2: I think that's the best value we can use. Two corners,
Speaker 2: be really young at corner, which is that's okay? Yea, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fine. Brown is pick and we're back up now
Speaker 2: with the first pick of the fourth round.
Speaker 3: So I would consider Jones a Texas. There was a
Speaker 3: safety or two, there was a linebacker or two.
Speaker 2: We'll get another pick at one twenty. I think if
Speaker 2: we want to take a tackle, you take the tackle here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's that available at quarterback? Well, Jordan Travis is still there,
Speaker 2: Austin Reid from Western Kentucky, Joe Milton.
Speaker 3: Okay, nobody blowing your doors, nobody blowing my.
Speaker 2: Doors off there unless you know Travis is Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind having Travis on camp, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I had to go for the tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's an how or never on let's.
Speaker 2: Say Christian Jones. Yeah, there you go. We'll overpay a
Speaker 2: little bit for a tackle.
Speaker 3: Their rankings.
Speaker 2: Now we're back up at we have one twenty and
Speaker 2: one ninety eight remaining.
Speaker 3: Okay, safety, linebacker. I think we need to get at
Speaker 3: least one of those two. Yeah, middle of field guy Okay,
Speaker 3: would you consider one of these running backs are still there? Well,
Speaker 3: there's one that's the value.
Speaker 2: There's one that's there that's intriguing, and that's Braylan Allen.
Speaker 2: I don't have to change anything with him.
Speaker 3: No, no, I mean he probably isn't active on game day,
Speaker 3: but you're one injury away from him getting a lot
Speaker 3: of touches.
Speaker 2: Here's the other interesting thing is that Jordan Travis is
Speaker 2: still there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be. I would take him over Allen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think you just take the the
Speaker 2: burden hand with that and say, okay, this is our
Speaker 2: developmental quarterback.
Speaker 3: You'd really like to get one, especially with all these
Speaker 3: trade downs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, Jordan
Speaker 2: Travis it is. And we get another pick coming at
Speaker 2: one ninety eight that could.
Speaker 3: Be our punter, safety, linebacker. Would right, Yeah, there.
Speaker 2: May not be anybody there at those I'm gonna like
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, I you know, I think looking
Speaker 2: at and it's gonna take a while because such I
Speaker 2: can turn it, I can turn the speed up.
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, what side are we using for this one?
Speaker 2: Uh? Pro football focus.
Speaker 3: That's there's several of them out there nowadays.
Speaker 2: Let's see if it speeds it up. Now.
Speaker 3: It did not, Okay, Okay, we didn't take a tight end,
Speaker 3: we didn't take an edge, didn't take a running back.
Speaker 3: But pretty much everything else except for safety linebacker that
Speaker 3: we're considering.
Speaker 2: Here, we got. We got a center, we got an
Speaker 2: offensive tackle. Yeah, we got a garden an offensive tackle,
Speaker 2: either way you want to look at it.
Speaker 3: I mean, Daniel's contract is up after the year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if for short it's gonna
Speaker 3: be back.
Speaker 2: But we added to that room. We added the defensive lineman.
Speaker 3: Two corners, two corners, Okay, yeah, so in a receiver, yeah, Corley,
Speaker 3: which I.
Speaker 2: Think is you know, I think that's I love. That's
Speaker 2: a way to go here. And we got right now
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick.
Speaker 3: What's in your runner? Do we have a future?
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, we're almost up here at one ninety
Speaker 2: eight and we are up uh MJ. Devonshire Hunter one
Speaker 2: of the Penn State centers there.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't know Daniel is going to
Speaker 3: be back, I mean, if it went like this, you
Speaker 3: could cut coal and open up some cap space. Two
Speaker 3: big still in the mix.
Speaker 2: Two rookie centers of I mean I mean, one of
Speaker 2: them can play guard. But that was our first round pick.
Speaker 3: I know, I know it's not ideal.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 3: You'd have to be way better than everybody else.
Speaker 2: On the BA Tyrone Hoppers there. That the linebacker, the
Speaker 2: linebacker from Missouri. He's interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be fine with that.
Speaker 2: We could also go with the best punter available. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's see if he's there.
Speaker 3: Do you know the names of punter yet? Do you
Speaker 3: know who the good ones are?
Speaker 2: Tory Taylor from Iowa is there?
Speaker 3: Oh that's the best one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure he'll play. I mean, yeah, he's a starter.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get it.
Speaker 2: We'll get a bad grade on that, but I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't care. Ah, I never care about the grades.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna ta. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: won't let me speed it back up.
Speaker 3: It's got to play out the rest of the yea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got fifty fifty more picks to go here,
Speaker 2: but no, I think we filled a lot of needs.
Speaker 3: And how many trades did we end up making? Three?
Speaker 3: At least you happen to remember which future pick we have.
Speaker 2: It's a fourth, it's a fourth, yeah, is it?
Speaker 3: Denvers. I think those are bad teams. I don't think.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was a Niners. We made a deal with Carolina,
Speaker 3: We made a deal with Denver. I think I know
Speaker 3: we made a deal with the Diners because we went
Speaker 3: from twenty.
Speaker 2: To Yeah, I think I think we did get the
Speaker 2: Niners fourth round pick.
Speaker 3: Did we go twenty to all the way to thirty one?
Speaker 2: No, we went to twenty nine first and then to
Speaker 2: thirty one.
Speaker 3: Who was the twenty nine Detroit Troit? Maybe it's a
Speaker 3: Trot's fourth I can't remember. That could be, yeah, could be.
Speaker 3: So we made at least four four trades. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: were active. We were active.
Speaker 2: All right, this thing's almost done here, Okay. We did
Speaker 2: pass on two really good players.
Speaker 3: In the first right now too, by the way, right, which.
Speaker 2: Would have been nice. Yeah, all right, So yeah, we
Speaker 2: made a trade with Detroit, we got their fourth round pick.
Speaker 2: We made then the trade with San Francisco to move
Speaker 2: down two more spots in the first round. Then we
Speaker 2: took Graham Barton at thirty one. That was get us
Speaker 2: a B plus. We took at thirty At fifty two,
Speaker 2: we took Kyrie Jackson, that was a B plus. Then
Speaker 2: we traded up if you remember to go get Ruke rojro. No,
Speaker 2: we traded down, that's right. Then we traded up to
Speaker 2: go get Corley. That got a B minus. Jravis Brownlee
Speaker 2: was a B minus. Christian Jones was a D. But
Speaker 2: we took him. We took him a little earlier than
Speaker 2: what they have him ranked. The same thing with Jordan Travis.
Speaker 2: We took him a little earlier than what they have
Speaker 2: him ranked. We get a quarterback, and we took an
Speaker 2: F on Tory Taylor because they have him in the
Speaker 2: two fifties, and we took him at night. I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we're all we got to be on our
Speaker 2: our draft here.
Speaker 3: But we got how many players one.
Speaker 2: Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
Speaker 3: And a future fourth and a future fourth? So we
Speaker 3: have three fourths and two fifths next year? Right? And
Speaker 3: no sixth?
Speaker 2: That bell two forces and two fifths.
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought they already had two for two force.
Speaker 2: And two fifths.
Speaker 3: No six, No six, that's fine. I love that. I
Speaker 3: mean maybe at the trade deadline you're moving one of
Speaker 3: those guys for a starter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But we got a couple of offensive linemen. We
Speaker 2: got a couple of cornerbacks throw into the mix.
Speaker 3: I like the attack in the corner, like, yeah, I'd
Speaker 3: rather have the gene than both those corners combined. But
Speaker 3: we also got other stuff because of it. But I
Speaker 3: do like throwing two corners in the mix. Porter is
Speaker 3: gonna make the team.
Speaker 2: And really the extra pick we got we used on
Speaker 2: the quarterback to develop that quarterback bonus prize. Who has
Speaker 2: massive upside. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was saying same with the Roco or you know,
Speaker 3: and he's an upside guy. I would say our first
Speaker 3: corner too, the Oregon kids an upside guy because of
Speaker 3: the size.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Brownie is a little different than the giant
Speaker 3: tree trees that we have in the corner room right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take a look at it. We'll take a
Speaker 2: look at this this one in the next segment. Here,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a break. Remember I saved the previous two.
Speaker 2: We'll see which one we like the best.
Speaker 3: I'm sure this was our most picks, I.
Speaker 2: Would think so, Matt. Yeah, anyways, let's get to a break.
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williams, and I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening
Speaker 2: to the driver. You're on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be
Speaker 2: back with more right after this.
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2: And we are back and I am looking here, Matt
Speaker 2: at our previous draft mark drafts from earlier this week.
Speaker 2: And I remember Monday, we didn't make any trades.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just pie.
Speaker 2: We just picked what we what came to us, and
Speaker 2: we ended up with J. C. Latham. Nice, Eddrian Cooper
Speaker 2: at fifty two, pretty nice too, Cedric Van Pran at
Speaker 2: eighty four. Yeah, that one doesn't maybe to car wheels,
Speaker 2: Max Melton at one twenty didn't need a corner. Logan
Speaker 2: Lee out of Iowa, the defensive lineman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know a ton about.
Speaker 2: Jalen Green, the safety out of Mississippi State in round six,
Speaker 2: and then Talia Tago Vloa in the seventh round.
Speaker 3: I love Garvin Latham. Last three picks didn't second half
Speaker 3: of it wasn't as great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Uh. Then on Wednesday we didn't trade in
Speaker 2: the first round. We didn't. I don't think we had
Speaker 2: any offers. If I remember cricket, they were like super
Speaker 2: far they were a long, long way to go. So
Speaker 2: we traded. We picked it once twenty. We took Jackson
Speaker 2: Powers Johnson. We did make a pick. We moved down
Speaker 2: in the second round, so we got we trade with
Speaker 2: Baltimore of ball Team, so we ended up with Baltimore's
Speaker 2: fourth round pick fourth or future fourth to move down
Speaker 2: to sixty two, where we took Ruguerrero.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he shows up twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. Then we took Cam Hart in the uh
Speaker 2: with pick with our first pick in our third round
Speaker 2: because we picked up an extra third round pick in
Speaker 2: this one as well, and we traded the way two
Speaker 2: thirty eight always a good yeah, And so we took
Speaker 2: Cam Heart, the cornerback out of Notre Dame in eighty
Speaker 2: four at ninety three, we then took jay Von Baker,
Speaker 2: the wide receiver out of UCF he favors. Yeah. At
Speaker 2: one twenty we took Tyke Smith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll work.
Speaker 2: With our second fourth round pick, we took Jordan Travis.
Speaker 2: We got him twice. We got him twice on the
Speaker 2: same spot, and then we took it pick one ninety eight,
Speaker 2: Steel Chambers, the linebacker out of Ohio State.
Speaker 3: That was one thing that bothered me a little bit
Speaker 3: with our most recent one is we didn't get that
Speaker 3: safety linebacker late round special team guy for Danny.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. And then today's draft we were very active. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we ended up with a trading with Detroit to move
Speaker 2: down to twenty nine. We got their future fourth round
Speaker 2: pick and a second round pick, and then San Francisco called.
Speaker 2: We got their first, third and fifth round pick for
Speaker 2: our first and round seven pick, getting Dumpy to move
Speaker 2: down two spots. We ended up with Graham Barton, the
Speaker 2: offensive lineman out of Duke at thirty one. Then we
Speaker 2: took Kyrie Jackson, the cornerback out of Oregon at fifty two.
Speaker 2: Then we moved back again, or we moved up. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry to go get Rookerojo.
Speaker 3: Now we moved back. Yeah, I keep messing that one up, Jenkins.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, we moved back four spots, took Aurorjo, We
Speaker 2: picked up a fourth round pick for our fifth round pick,
Speaker 2: moved up seventy four spots to go back four spots.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah, that's doing good business. Yeah right.
Speaker 2: So then we took a Roro. Then we traded up
Speaker 2: and we paid. We traded our third round pick and
Speaker 2: a fourth round pick to move up and take Malakai
Speaker 2: Corley at seventy six.
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite moves of the three. Picking
Speaker 3: him at that stage. I was pretty happy about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we it We picked ninety eight, which we
Speaker 2: got from We get that one from ninety eight came from.
Speaker 3: The end of the Lions.
Speaker 2: We got that one from San Francisco. Yeah. We took
Speaker 2: Jarvis Brownlee, the cornerback out of the Then at one
Speaker 2: oh two, which we got from we get one o
Speaker 2: two from It's hard to keep tracking one or two
Speaker 2: we got from Carolina. We took Christian Jones, the offensive
Speaker 2: tackle out of Texas. Uh. And then at one twenty,
Speaker 2: which was our pick, we took Jordan Travis again again.
Speaker 2: And then at one ninety eight we took Tory Taylor,
Speaker 2: the punter out of Iowa.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the only time we took a punter, we
Speaker 3: did take a quarterback in each one to his brothers.
Speaker 3: Not as attractive as Florida State dude. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 3: at least we're bringing in it someone pedigree guy.
Speaker 2: So which one did you like the best?
Speaker 3: Latham at twenty.
Speaker 2: Latham at twenty is a steal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like the bottom of that draft. I
Speaker 3: don't know the others. I remember we kind of went
Speaker 3: through it going this isn't just didn't go way.
Speaker 2: It was an ideal because the corner if you remember
Speaker 2: in that when the corner there was a huge run on.
Speaker 2: That's why Latham, Yeah, why Laytham was there. There were
Speaker 2: like six cornerbacks taken before we picked.
Speaker 3: I mean to Jeane, and I think even kool Aid
Speaker 3: was gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, from what I recall, that's my favorite pick of
Speaker 3: the whole. But Latham's a stud and he might be
Speaker 3: the Jets first round pick.
Speaker 2: He's plugging player, like right now, like he's your starting
Speaker 2: right tackle.
Speaker 3: Extremely well. Yeah, so that carries a ton of weight
Speaker 3: for that one.
Speaker 2: And Cooper's going to be in the mixed linebacker.
Speaker 3: I know that one fell really well too. What are
Speaker 3: the other names there? Real quick? What was the third rounder?
Speaker 2: Cedric Van Pryan. Then we took Max Melton in the
Speaker 2: fourth rounds follow that up with Logan Lee. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: didn't like the end of it, but the first the
Speaker 2: first two picks.
Speaker 3: That was the best one. Yeah, Like you would take
Speaker 3: Latham over powers Johnson today, right, Yes? I would do. Yeah, Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: As much as I love Powers Johnson. I think Latham
Speaker 2: in the conversation to be the he could be a
Speaker 2: top ten pick. He's the best right tackle in this draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I agree. That being said, I
Speaker 3: don't think I picked that draft though. That being said,
Speaker 3: I like the one where we made one trade. I
Speaker 3: think that would be mine too. I love bringing in
Speaker 3: so much stuff, but I have Powers Johnson firmly ahead
Speaker 3: of Barton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like so we came out of that
Speaker 2: with Powers Johnson. We came out of that with Ruke
Speaker 2: Rorojo same. We got the same guys there. So the
Speaker 2: difference in is cam Hart versus Kyrie Jackson? Is that?
Speaker 2: Does that equal out over Powers Johnson versus Graham Barton.
Speaker 3: I think the corners are closer than the centers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, jay Von Baker versus Malachai Corley I like better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a future fourth in both those from Yeah.
Speaker 2: We didn't take a safety in today's draft.
Speaker 3: We got Tyke Smith, who I think would make the team.
Speaker 2: Wednesday's draft get Jordan Travis and both of them, and
Speaker 2: we still added the linebacker and Steel Chambers, which we
Speaker 2: didn't do in today's.
Speaker 3: I'd probably take Wednesday's draft, I think so too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: pretty strong boy. I'd like to have Latham as a
Speaker 3: Steeler and that itself. I mean like if Wednesdays round
Speaker 3: three and later would have happened Monday for us, that's
Speaker 3: the slam dug.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 3: I thought for sure when we decided to do this,
Speaker 3: I would take the trade all over the place draft.
Speaker 2: Because that's what you always want to do. You want
Speaker 2: to trade like crazy.
Speaker 3: It's I just love manipulating the board, getting out of
Speaker 3: soft spots where you don't want to pick. Like I
Speaker 3: think on Monday, if it had been trade all over
Speaker 3: the place, we would have taken a lath no matter what.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. Yeah, but like in round three four, I
Speaker 3: bet would be getting out of there and would like
Speaker 3: that draft a lot better, you know, potentially, Yeah, because
Speaker 3: those first two picks were great, and then I think
Speaker 3: we'd have started making moves, yeah, listening to offers, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe pick up future picks.
Speaker 2: But I mean, looking at that one at Wednesday's draft,
Speaker 2: I mean, you get your starting center.
Speaker 3: Who we all love. I mean, I'm like settled for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Auror Hero is going to be in the
Speaker 2: mix of the defend. Project Heart's going to be in
Speaker 2: the mix, as you know, at cornerback somewhere.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean fits some old that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Javon Baker is going to be in the mix. Is
Speaker 2: your wide receiver group. Tyke Smith is going to be
Speaker 2: in the mix. Oh yeah, maybe he's your.
Speaker 3: Nickel, maybe your nickel. He might be your third safety
Speaker 3: and big nickel.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A minimum, he's a special team demon.
Speaker 2: You got your quarterback of the you know, developmental right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then you got Steel Chambers there is to help
Speaker 2: you at the very least he helps on special teams.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe he moves past somebody in the linebacker mix.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're missing a Steel Chambers on that
Speaker 3: today's draft. Yeah, you know, somebody like that that could hit.
Speaker 3: But at a minimum, is probably going to.
Speaker 2: Be a core special, core special team player for you.
Speaker 3: Challenge Mark Robinson as well.
Speaker 2: Tyke Smith. You got a couple of guys that will
Speaker 2: help out that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Danny's happy with that draft. Yeah right here, that's
Speaker 3: that's kind of a fun exercise. But that doesn't mean yeah,
Speaker 3: trading is bad or not trading good or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of it's random.
Speaker 2: Well we ended up with with Baltimore's fourth round pick
Speaker 2: out of that one as well.
Speaker 3: Both those the two trade ones, we end up with
Speaker 3: a fourth right, yeah, great, yeah, an extra fourth and
Speaker 3: still had all that stuff and you like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I like the picks better in day on Wednesdays than
Speaker 3: I did mondays lay them aside and we got a
Speaker 3: future pick. Yeah, you know, so we used our resources better. Yeah,
Speaker 3: on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: It's it's always interesting everybody.
Speaker 3: But the opportunity to present itself that has to be
Speaker 3: a trade partner.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure this happens to you as well. People
Speaker 2: send me what do you think of this mock and
Speaker 2: I'll be one of eighteen people tagged on there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And they do it on here, yes, or they do
Speaker 2: it on one of the other ones that gives grades
Speaker 2: out and they get everybody gets an a because if
Speaker 2: you draft, here's the way those works, folks. If you
Speaker 2: if you don't know, you get an A. If you
Speaker 2: pick the guy, if you agree with them, if you
Speaker 2: agree with them right right right, if your pick agrees
Speaker 2: with who they would take, you get an A.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if you think you're super smart in
Speaker 3: the fourth round and you're picking between the top guy
Speaker 3: on their board or the second top guy on the board,
Speaker 3: You're gonna get a good grade.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a good.
Speaker 3: Grade, right, I mean, you're you're the teacher's pet.
Speaker 2: Right right, if you're agreeing with their you know. But
Speaker 2: when you do it like we did today and you
Speaker 2: take Chris Jones twenty picks before they have him ranked,
Speaker 2: or a punter, you're gonna get a worse grade.
Speaker 3: During crushed, I never look at the grades.
Speaker 2: The grades are meaningless. Take the players that you like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and you mentioned too like some of
Speaker 3: these if you know the glitches, if I take a quarterback,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get an eight or B.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna get something good. Well, they don't
Speaker 2: do that as they fixed that glitch because you know
Speaker 2: I did it one year. I just took quarterback in
Speaker 2: every round they got a plus the ways like, well
Speaker 2: you the great value.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, I got ten quarterbacks that year, which
Speaker 3: is kind of the way the Steelers off season has
Speaker 3: gone here because every single quarterback who's talked about.
Speaker 2: This guy might be available. Oh the Steelers are interested.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, because there's not that many obvious landing spots.
Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna be interested for everybody in the
Speaker 3: public eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just great, you know. I mean, if you
Speaker 2: if you go from what has been talked about this
Speaker 2: offseason for the Steelers quarterback room, next year, it's going
Speaker 2: to be said and deep.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, sure, I mean and inside the walls on
Speaker 3: the south side, there's probably two, right, I mean, who
Speaker 3: do we like better? Tannehill or Rudolph or you know whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not a conversation of Ah, there's six
Speaker 3: dudes are all the same, you know, not even close.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, let's get to another break here. That was
Speaker 2: an interesting little Maybe we'll do this post.
Speaker 3: Let's definitely do it between Combine and the real draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to take a look and see how things
Speaker 2: have changed. But I didn't dislike any of our first
Speaker 2: round draft picks.
Speaker 3: Latham is Latham's I mean, right, And of course we
Speaker 3: didn't like dislike powers Johnson. No, I mean all the
Speaker 3: stuff we got for Barton it's fine. Yeah, And we've
Speaker 3: considered Rakestraw there today, Right, that was the other one
Speaker 3: that we were torn on. Yeah, so which one have
Speaker 3: been better?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, let's take a break. We'll be back to
Speaker 2: finish up the show. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly.
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2: We back with more right after this.
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with and Matt Williamsons on your twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers
Speaker 1: Nation Radio.
Speaker 2: Steeler fans, you can get visit the official Steelers pro shops,
Speaker 2: which are located at Akrosher Stadium, Grove City Premium Outlets,
Speaker 2: or Tangle outlets, or online at shop dot Steelers dot
Speaker 2: com for your latest sideline apparel, hats or jerseys of
Speaker 2: your favorite players, authentic memorabilia, custom items, and exclusives that
Speaker 2: you can only find directly from the team. Go ahead
Speaker 2: and do that. And maybe you don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: After the draft when they get some new players added there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Powers, Johnson, Jersey or whoever else.
Speaker 2: So if they if they were to draft Jackson Powers Johnson,
Speaker 2: a lot of people started calling Joey Porter Junior, JPJ
Speaker 2: H to jpj's somebody's gonna have to give it up
Speaker 2: JPJ two. I just call him.
Speaker 3: He's Joey Porter, call him sport.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, you just called him Junior.
Speaker 3: I'm bad about it, even like when I type it,
Speaker 3: like I'm sure my editors don't like it. I often
Speaker 3: don't put the or the second, here's the here's my
Speaker 3: role on that. I didn't know what how to do that.
Speaker 2: So for Joey Porter junior, because people know who his
Speaker 2: dad is, Okay, you had the junior, Okay, when we
Speaker 2: were talking about Presley Harvin the third and nobody knows
Speaker 2: who the first two are, then you don't use it.
Speaker 2: He's he's the he's the more famous one.
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior is Marvin Harrison Junior, Yes, because his
Speaker 3: dad's all of fame, right, yeah, yeah, that was that
Speaker 3: happened with Williams and Junior. No one cares about.
Speaker 2: So when I when I first got into the newspaper business,
Speaker 2: this is completely off topic for this or I went
Speaker 2: to work at it, you know, at uh the newspaper
Speaker 2: basically where I grew up at and I'm in college
Speaker 2: right a little there were a little time in between.
Speaker 2: I was working in Johnstown first and then they go
Speaker 2: so I get hired and I'm a junior. Okay. My
Speaker 2: dad is a teacher in the area and was the
Speaker 2: president of the local of the county fire Department.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he might qualify. He's not Joey Porter Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 2: So I had to put the I had to put
Speaker 2: the junior on because when I was writing, when I
Speaker 2: went and I didn't have the junior, And even even
Speaker 2: with the junior, people were going to my dad and saying, hey,
Speaker 2: when did you start writing for the you.
Speaker 3: Know, okay, because people know that name. Yeah, right, and
Speaker 3: it's somewhat it's not John Smith too. I mean it's
Speaker 3: a somewhat unusual name. Then there's not a ton of
Speaker 3: them running around PA at that time. Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: So another No one cares about editing stories, but I
Speaker 3: have to ask you this question. Yes, okay, let's say
Speaker 3: I put Joey Porter Jr. For a rule of thumb, folks,
Speaker 3: the first time you write the name, you write it
Speaker 3: out the full time. Yeah, the second time, is it
Speaker 3: Porter Junior? No?
Speaker 2: Just Porter unless you're writing. And here's here's where it
Speaker 2: gets confusing. If I'm writing a story about the player
Speaker 2: and I'm also quoting his father, Yeah, yeah, that's where
Speaker 2: it gets. That's where you know, I saw a lot
Speaker 2: of times I'll use the elder Porter said or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, or like when the Davis twins were on the team,
Speaker 3: then you have.
Speaker 2: To use the full name or you or you just
Speaker 2: use first said Carlos, or said or if I'm writing
Speaker 2: a story about cam O Connor Heyward.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. You know, the Steelers have a
Speaker 3: couple of these instances obvious or watts of course. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I when I would do that, I just start using
Speaker 3: the first names.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, which is fine. You can do that.
Speaker 2: You could do that as well.
Speaker 3: But you can drop the junior after the first saying
Speaker 3: yes or the second.
Speaker 2: Unless you then mentioned the father, then you have to Okay,
Speaker 2: then you have to it gets confused.
Speaker 3: Or another porter that. Okay, Then we got that out
Speaker 3: of the way. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That so, Matt, you sent me a two round pre combine,
Speaker 2: uh mock draft here. I want to go through. This
Speaker 2: was done by what would you say, Matt Miller site.
Speaker 3: I think this is Matt draft scout.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just wanted to run through here and
Speaker 2: see who they have the Steelers taking.
Speaker 3: You'll like the first round pick, That's all I looked
Speaker 3: at so far.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean how about that? So the one
Speaker 2: you know who all the top picks are Yeah, Chargers
Speaker 2: take though Terry and Arnold at five.
Speaker 3: Their corner situations are really bad, Yeah, really bad. They
Speaker 3: have so many needs. I think they're a real strong
Speaker 3: trade down candidate.
Speaker 2: Uh, trade down and take the best Michigan players, every
Speaker 2: Michigan player you can. Jayden Daniels then falls the sixth
Speaker 2: to the Giants.
Speaker 3: The podium for that.
Speaker 2: The Bears get done like that for them. JJ McCarthy
Speaker 2: goes at eleven the Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I think that's very possible. I think the Raiders might
Speaker 3: be his floor, which I'd be fine with.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Brock Bowers goes at fourteen to the Saints.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas at fifteen to the Colts would.
Speaker 3: Be a nice fit for them. I always had a
Speaker 3: hard time finding a spot for the Colts.
Speaker 2: The jack Squires take Jackson powers Johnson seventeen.
Speaker 3: The Rams pick ahead the Steelers too, right, Yeah, those
Speaker 3: are the two land mines. Yeah, but it works out
Speaker 3: to your favor. You're gonna like the Steeler pick.
Speaker 2: The Bengals took Nate Wiggins.
Speaker 3: Wow, with all their other needs, I don't see I.
Speaker 2: Don't see that. Yeah. The Rams take Latham, which is
Speaker 2: oh that's close. Yeah, it's close for him, and the
Speaker 2: Steelers take Cooper Dejean.
Speaker 3: What if Latham was still there? That's tough call. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm taking Dejene over powers Johnson. I'm taking Latham over
Speaker 3: powers Johnson. But I've never had the choose between those two.
Speaker 2: Where those three that'd but powers.
Speaker 3: Johnson will be third for me of those not a
Speaker 3: distant third.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough. Jean Verse Latham would be cool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but did Gena twenty sign me up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm good with that. The Dolphins take Fortanu,
Speaker 2: which makes perfect.
Speaker 3: Sense for that Dolphin.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Quinya Mitchell goes at twenty two the Jeane or
Speaker 2: Quenya Mitchell. I think so too.
Speaker 3: The g may be my number one corn I might
Speaker 3: take them, aren't.
Speaker 2: I think he's really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, not working out by the way and.
Speaker 2: Perfect, Yeah, don't work out her Cooper, don't work out
Speaker 2: the entire offseason. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Tyler Geyton goes at twenty four to the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: That's a perfect fit.
Speaker 3: That's a good spot for him, especially if you bring
Speaker 3: back Tyron.
Speaker 2: He's an Oklahoma guy.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma Jerry Jerry's gonna be in love with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Rake Shaw goes at twenty five. Mims goes at
Speaker 2: twenty six to Tampa. Barton goes at twenty seven. Who
Speaker 2: we just took in our draft today. Mckinstrey goes to
Speaker 2: the Bills at twenty eight, Zach Fraser at thirty one
Speaker 2: to San Francisco. Yeah, I'm going to fight all three
Speaker 2: centers in the first round.
Speaker 3: True, it would worry me going into this draft. Center Needy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it just the more I think about it,
Speaker 3: there's a couple spots power Shawns that could fall and
Speaker 3: I don't want to trade up for him. And the
Speaker 3: chances Fraser or Barton Barton has no almost no chance
Speaker 3: of being there in the second round is just frightening.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Living on the edge.
Speaker 2: There looking here at round two. Uh, the Panthers state
Speaker 2: Troy Franklin to kick it off. I'm just gonna pick
Speaker 2: out some some of the big names here. Kamari Lassiter
Speaker 2: goes at thirty five to Arizona. Darius Robinson goes at
Speaker 2: thirty six to Washington. Lad McConkie goes at thirty eight
Speaker 2: to the Titans. Yeah, Tyler Newban goes at forty one
Speaker 2: to Green Bay.
Speaker 3: That would make some sense for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bo Knicks at forty two to Minnesota. Didn't they
Speaker 2: take a quarterback?
Speaker 3: No? Yeah, did that?
Speaker 2: I thought Minnesota took a quarterback in the first round.
Speaker 2: They took J. J. McCarthy and Boone Nicks. That's bad.
Speaker 2: Come on, du you got to be on top of
Speaker 2: that draft, and you did the draft and you had
Speaker 2: him take two quarterbacks in the first.
Speaker 3: Two the first round pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is your draft. Pennix goes at forty three
Speaker 2: to the Falcons. Edrian Cooper goes at forty four to
Speaker 2: the Raiders. TJ tamp at forty six to the Colts
Speaker 2: the Steelers take. I don't like this.
Speaker 3: I know I don't either. That's the only two I
Speaker 3: looked at.
Speaker 2: Kaylem Bullock, the safety out of USC.
Speaker 3: If that was Newbin fine, I mean I know you would.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even kill them for going DBDB. I mean
Speaker 3: they're different, But I don't want Bullock that high.
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. Who would we take though, Who's well,
Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins was to pick ahead of Theirs.
Speaker 3: I would rather Jenkins then yeah, Bullock, but I think
Speaker 3: you still do better.
Speaker 2: Junior Coulson was still available, that wouldn't be bad him
Speaker 2: and the gene. Roman Wilson was still available.
Speaker 3: I would take both those both those would be fine.
Speaker 2: Uh, Cameron Kinchins.
Speaker 3: None of the safeties, Mike Santa stro was still available.
Speaker 3: If I would take Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: torn if i'd take Santa Strou or not at the
Speaker 3: second round.
Speaker 2: Very consductive. The gene could play the slot for you too,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: If I already had one, I don't know that he
Speaker 3: probably wouldn't got that direction. I'd probably go with one
Speaker 3: of the receivers.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. Oh yeah, you get two guys that
Speaker 2: took the ball away in your second you just added
Speaker 2: to your secondary. I wouldn't hate it.
Speaker 3: No, de Jeane's versatility is important too. Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: probably take one of the receivers in that instance, or
Speaker 3: or I don't have to learn how to say his name.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would definitely. I would definitely jump on Wilson there,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I forget the other receiver. That was interesting.
Speaker 2: But Devonte's Walker was there, but I'm not as interested.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, oh no, I was thinking about the the
Speaker 3: other Michigan guy, I said two receivers. There was two Michigans.
Speaker 2: Two Michigans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, two Michigans.
Speaker 2: June.
Speaker 3: Those were all been fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cooper was gone, Colson was still there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't help you aligned much.
Speaker 2: But no, not at all.
Speaker 3: Actually hopefully signed the center in the pre draft process
Speaker 3: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you better because you didn't get one.
Speaker 3: You didn't get anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get shut out, which is a problem. That
Speaker 2: would be a problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's gonna be a lot stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: happening between now and draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll know more about all that here in the
Speaker 2: coming weeks once we get back. I mean it's basically
Speaker 2: almost as soon as we get back from the car.
Speaker 2: There's like a week after we get back from the
Speaker 2: combine and then free agency it's heavy.
Speaker 3: Do you think we opened the show with all the
Speaker 3: salary cap news? Do you think every team's been waiting
Speaker 3: for that to make their cuts some So.
Speaker 2: I was reading on Pro Football Talkers, some teams may
Speaker 2: not have made some of the moves that they made
Speaker 2: if they know what the cap was coming in. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing, the league gives them an idea. Oh, it's
Speaker 2: going to be somewhere in this range.
Speaker 3: It's not like, wow, it was twenty million different than
Speaker 3: I thought. I mean, maybe it's a million off or
Speaker 3: two or something, but then.
Speaker 2: It's never while it's thirteen million more than what we expected. No,
Speaker 2: they give you a pretty good idea because.
Speaker 3: They communicate with the owner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cap guys, I mean the owners. The owners
Speaker 2: have meetings during the season where they know how much
Speaker 2: revenue is coming in, so you can kind of project
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: On this stuff. And then you know, you go down
Speaker 3: to Omar Khan and those guys and say, hey, it's
Speaker 3: going to make a big job. Yeah, prepare for it.
Speaker 2: According the teams are never shocked like there there was
Speaker 2: no shock value in thirty two buildings earlier today when
Speaker 2: that when that memo came out and here's here's what
Speaker 2: the salary CAP's going to be. No, they had an
Speaker 2: idea it was going to be that.
Speaker 3: But I bet they're excited. I mean they're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get one of these three Christmas presents. I
Speaker 3: don't know which one, but I like them all, you know,
Speaker 3: but it's going to be that's a little more than
Speaker 3: I thought. That's a little lesson I thought. But it's not.
Speaker 2: Shock No, no, not at all. They had They had
Speaker 2: a pretty darn good idea, yeah, what it was going
Speaker 2: to be, and then they adjust from there.
Speaker 3: And that's same with the the cap hits for the
Speaker 3: franchise tags and all those type of things too. You know,
Speaker 3: like that they have a pretty good idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sorry bout that. You know. I usually keep
Speaker 2: my ringer off.
Speaker 3: I never have mine on any time of the day.
Speaker 2: But I was expecting working on some some stories for
Speaker 2: Steelers dot Com, and I had some guys calling me
Speaker 2: back from different places, and I'm like, I gotta leave
Speaker 2: my ring visit. Yeah, I don't want to miss it.
Speaker 3: And we'll pick it up have a little chat with them.
Speaker 2: Is a spam? Ninety percent of the people who call
Speaker 2: me a spam.
Speaker 3: I'd get so few calls anymore. It's just wonderful.
Speaker 2: Well one that do not call this. You'd think you'd
Speaker 2: get fewer spams. Like that really works, does it? I
Speaker 2: don't think it does it all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that shows will be from Indie.
Speaker 2: Dude, we will be in Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: Can't wait. I'm psyched. Yeah, I'm always sighted. That's one
Speaker 3: of my favorite weeks of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we'll get a lot of good guests on
Speaker 2: and soon we'll get great Cosel again some some of
Speaker 2: the other guys.
Speaker 3: I'm on four hours a day. Are you on three?
Speaker 2: I think no, I'm on four?
Speaker 3: Oh Ario, Okay, I remember, great.
Speaker 2: But we should probably go over that schedule again with
Speaker 2: everybody since we won't be on again until yeah, until Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Tuesday, so we.
Speaker 2: Will kick things off. We'll be doing shows on the
Speaker 2: entire Steelers Nation Radio. Everybody's going out, the whole.
Speaker 3: Crew, we're all Goneah.
Speaker 2: So from nine to ten on Tuesday, you'll have Wes
Speaker 2: and Motes. At ten to noon you'll be joining Wes
Speaker 2: and Motes. That'll be Matt Wes and Motes from ten
Speaker 2: am to noon on Tuesday. Two hours of those from
Speaker 2: noon to two will be myself, Max Starks.
Speaker 3: And Jerry Dula was when you started.
Speaker 2: Okay, from two to four, and we'll have Max, you
Speaker 2: and I will be on in our regular time slot.
Speaker 2: Well not a regular time slot, but we'll we we're
Speaker 2: like we beat clean up. That's what we do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we bring them all home. But we'll have Max with
Speaker 2: us from two to three.
Speaker 3: Nice chat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: And then three to four we're alone, right, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Wednesday is the same line up, so we start at nine,
Speaker 2: we end at four. Thursday the same lineup. We start
Speaker 2: at nine and we end at four. And then Friday
Speaker 2: Wes and Motes from nine to ten. Then from ten
Speaker 2: to noon is West Motes and Matt Williamson, and then
Speaker 2: from noon to two is uh, well it's me you
Speaker 2: and Max.
Speaker 3: So I have four hours straight on Friday, Yes you do? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, someone's gonna have to fetch us some sandwich
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: You might starve.
Speaker 3: I don't get and then hit the road.
Speaker 2: And what we should do is bring in the g
Speaker 2: or Dano's pizza.
Speaker 3: For that day.
Speaker 2: Fine with that, don't don't invite Starks Okers, Stark Sweet,
Speaker 2: the whole damn thing. It's amazing. Anyways, that's going to
Speaker 2: do it for our shows today and for this week.
Speaker 2: We will be back Tuesday through Friday next week from Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: But that's going to do it for today's show. So
Speaker 2: for my partner Matt Williamson, for Brian Lamartina here on
Speaker 2: site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale, Lollie. We
Speaker 2: thank you for listening to this edition of The Drive
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio