1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: So first of all, my apologies to you guys. I 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: sound a little I'm sick right now, so I apologize. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: You have to deal with a nasally Lisa, but I 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: promise you that this interview will still be worth it 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: to please keep listening because you've got Mike Davis here. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: He's the former chief council for nominations to Senate Judiciary 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Chairman Chuck grassle. He's also the founder and president of 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: the article three project. Basically, what they do is defend 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: constitutionalist judges and the rule of law as well. Uh, 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, prior to that he's done a bunch of things. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: He's worked for all three branches of the federal government, 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: including for President George W Bush, the Justice Department, how 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: Speaker New Gingrich, as well as the current Supreme Court 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Justice Neil Gorcich as well. So he's done a bunch 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: of different things. He also led the outside support team 16 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: for Justice Corsich as UH, successful confirmation to the Supreme Court. 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: So we're going to lean on him to really just 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: walk us through what we need to know about this 19 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: FBI raid on trump. Why did they do it? Do 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: they have any standing? Where is this going and what 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: does it mean more broadly for the country. So we're 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: going to get into the big picture as well as 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty, go through the timeline a little bit, 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: really dig in, you know, because there's a lot reported. 25 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: How much of it's true? You know, what are we 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: being told that our lives? What are we being told 27 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: that's true? So we're gonna get to the bottom of 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: it with Mike Davis, and I think he's a pretty 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: good guy to get to the bottom of it with. 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: So he's got a lot of experience. This is his wheelhouse. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: He's a good guy. If you should follow him on 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: twitter as well, he's been tweeting out a bunch of, 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, stuff on all of this and his concerns 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: over the abuse of power from the Federal Government that 35 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: we've seen. So stay tuned. Mike Davis, all about the FBI. 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Raid what you need to know and what you need 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: to know moving forward with to pay attention to Mike Davis. 38 00:01:54,720 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Mike Davis. I really appreciate you coming on. 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: You know, obviously there's been a lot of coverage over 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: what has happened with the borlog array, but I kind 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: of just wanted to get into what's really going on? 42 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: What do people know? Kind of, you know, sort of 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: a one oh one on what's happened so far. So 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time to join the show. Yeah, 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: thank you for having me on, Lisa, and I'm happy 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: to talk. So what is going on here at the 47 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, is President Trump declassified his uh 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: crossfire hurricane Russian collusion documents through a presidential memorandum on 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: January before he left office. The Justice Department, the FBI 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: raised alarm bills unnecessarily and said that these declassified documents, 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: if they got out publicly, could violate the Privacy Act. 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: That was just an excuse to drag their feet. But 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: the trump White House, Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: issued a memorandum on January saying okay, guys, Do Your 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: Privacy Act Review and get out these declassified records quickly 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: after that. And of course the Biden Justice Department got 57 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: on board and they never released these documents. And the 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: reason they didn't release these documents is because they are 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: so damning for Obama, Biden, Hillary, the FBI, the Intel community, 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: because they show, according to news reports, that they colluded 61 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: to make up the Russian collusion hoax to try to 62 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: go after President Donald Trump as a candidate in two 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, and that is an earth shattering revelation. They 64 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: know that they don't want these documents out there and so, uh, 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: they had to go get them. And so the Biden President. 66 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Biden waived executive privilege, something that every president going back 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: to George Washingtonis hats. We can have candidate, he can 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: have candid discussions, candid, confidential discussions with his top advisors. 69 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: Biden waved trump's claim of executive privilege. The Biden Justice 70 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Department went to this biased judge, Magistrate Judge Bruce Ryan 71 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: hartdown in West Palm Beach, Florida, and they got this unnecessary, 72 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: unlawful and unprecedented home raide warrants on a former president 73 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: where they set in thirty FBI agents to ransack his home, 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: his office, his wife's underwear drawer, is sixteen year old 75 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: son's bedroom and they took eleven thousand documents from Marl 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Lock and these documents included personal records, presidential records, tax records, 77 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: attorney client privileged records, medical records. It was an unlawful 78 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: and constitutional general warrants. And so trump sued under rule 79 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: forty one G of the federal rules of civil procedure 80 00:04:54,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: or criminal procedure to get back these unlawfully rated records Biden. 81 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: And that's where we are with cannon. A president of 82 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the United States, don't they have ultimate authority over what's 83 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: the classified or not? Yes, so the president of the 84 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: United States, as commander in chief, has the absolute constitutional 85 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: power to declassify anything he wants, for any reason he wants, 86 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: in any manner he wants, and he doesn't have to 87 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: get any bureaucrats permission to do it. And that's confirmed 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: by a nine Supreme Court case called Department of the 89 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: Navy versus Ego. So trump absolutely declassified these records through 90 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: his January nineteenth memo and through other measures, including his 91 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: his mere action of taking these records with him. They're declassified. 92 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: But even if they are classified, president trump has the 93 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: absolute statutory power under the Presidential Records Act to take 94 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: and maintain his records when he leaves office. Any record 95 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: received by the president or his White House staff are 96 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: considered Presid sidential records, and that includes classified records from 97 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: various intell agencies. Those are presidential records. And then it 98 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: is up to the president to decide whether those are 99 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: presidential records that go to the archives and get sent 100 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: back to almost certainly get sent back to his library 101 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: as the former president, or if their personal records that 102 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: belong to him. It's his soul determination. According to a 103 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve case by Obama judge in Tom Fenton 104 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: in judicial watches lawsuit against Bill Clinton over eight years 105 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: of highly classy classified audio tapes of his presidency that 106 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: he had in his sock drawer. So not only does 107 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: trump have the constitutional power to declassify, he has the 108 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: statutory power to declassify and he has the statutory power 109 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: under the Presidential Records Act to take and keep his records. 110 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: This is again an unlawful home rate. And the reason 111 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: that they're doing this is because of these crossfire hurricane, 112 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: because they're not going to say that. They've leaked that 113 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: in media leaks, including to Newsweek early on. But that's 114 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: the reason they're doing this. This is another, another hoax, 115 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: another charade to get trump. Well and according to the law, 116 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: if a president was to declassified documents, are there certain 117 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: steps that he has to take, or can he basically 118 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: just say, you know, these are declassified. He absolutely does 119 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: not have to follow the espionage act or any other 120 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: statue that applies to everyone else on the planet. He 121 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: is the classifier. He has the inherent constitutional power as 122 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: the commander in chief. He doesn't have to get anyone's 123 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: permission to this. These classified statutes, the Espionage Act, the 124 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: classified Information Protecting Protection Act, government property statutes, those apply 125 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: to everyone else except for the president. The two governing 126 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: legal regimes that apply to the president is the commander 127 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: in chief clause that he has this inherent power, along 128 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: with the Presidential Records Act. Remember, there are two sets 129 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: of government records. There are presidential records that that fall 130 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: under the presidential records act or there are federal records 131 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: that fall under the Federal Records Act. And all White 132 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: House records, whether they're they're whether they're written at the 133 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: White House or received by the White House, are presidential 134 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: records and they are treated. They are treated completely differently 135 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: from federal records. Remember, before eight when Congress passed the 136 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: presidential records act and made applicable to every president, starting 137 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: with whoever one in nineteen eighty, presidential records were personal 138 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: property of the president. He got to take his person 139 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: these records, as his own Congress changed that. Where they 140 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: they become presidential records, belong to the governments, but it's 141 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: up to the president to decide whether they're personal records 142 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: that belong to him are presidential records that go to 143 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: the governments, and he gets unfettered access. He and his 144 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: designated designates get unfettered access by statute to his records, 145 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter whether they're classified or not. So 146 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: that how can they claim that he was in possession 147 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: of classified documents if he previously, as the president, was 148 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: the ultimate to classifier? They can't. And then, and not 149 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: only that, but even if they are classified, he still 150 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: has the right to have them under the Presidential Records Act. 151 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Remember Attorney General Merritt Garland deliberated, he leaked for weeks 152 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: before he ordered this unnecessary, unprecedented and unlawful home raid 153 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: on a former president who also who also happens to 154 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: be garland's boss's chief political enemy. If he had weeks 155 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: to deliberate, why didn't he walk down the hallway to 156 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: the office of Legal Counsel, or Ol C at the 157 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: Justice Department to get a legal opinion on this? And 158 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: the reason almost certainly is. Is that garland would not 159 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: have liked the answer that o else gave him, because 160 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: they always protect the presidency and that's what they should 161 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: have done here. But that got in their way of 162 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: going to raid president trump to get back these politically 163 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: damaging documents. Think about it this way, Lisa. They Biden 164 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: waited eighteen months to go get these records. Garland said 165 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: he deliberated for weeks before he authorized the home raid, 166 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: even after they got this home raide warrant from this 167 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: biased magistrate judge who just recused on June two because 168 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: of a two thousand seventeen facebook coast post bashing president trump. 169 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: He recused in trump's civil lawsuit versus hilary on Russian collusion. 170 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Somehow this magistrate Judge's bias magically went away and he, Garland, 171 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: went to this magistrate judge, Judge Shops I would argue, 172 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: and got this home raid warrants. Why did they do this? 173 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: What was the necessity? Why did they wait eighteen months 174 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: if it was so dangerous to have these documents and 175 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: trump's hands? Why did they not leak for eighteen months? 176 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Why did they only start leaking after the Biden Justice 177 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: Department took them from trump. I mean, I think that 178 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: this is o bis. I'm just trying to get the 179 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: fuller picture about what they're alleging and you know and 180 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: all of that. And what's strange too, is that the 181 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: trump team had been I was looking through the timeline 182 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: of all this, or at least what is being public 183 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: or reported, and the trump team was working with them. 184 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: I mean in January two they turned over fifteen boxes 185 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: of documents. Yet a month later the National Archives and 186 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: record administration went to the D O J asking for help, 187 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: despite the fact that just a month earlier there were 188 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: these fifteen boxes that were turned over. I don't understand 189 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: how they can allege that the trump team was not 190 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: working with them when they had clearly handed over the documents, 191 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: and not only that, but they had corresponded with the 192 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: FBI and met with them prior to the raid. And 193 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: here's the bigger, bigger problem, Lisa, is the presidential records 194 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: act does not have a criminal component to it. The 195 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Federal Records Act does, the President Presidential Records Act does not, 196 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: and so there is a natural give and take between 197 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: the president, who's thanks every presidential record is his, and 198 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: the bureaucrats, the librarians that the national archives, who think 199 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: every time a president sneezes into a Kleenex that's a 200 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: presidential record that belongs to them. There is a natural 201 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: give and tank. We talked about the Clinton software case. Right, 202 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: Clinton one in that case, because presidents always went under 203 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: the presidential records act. It's their sole determination. But what 204 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: the bureaucrats at the National Archives should have done is 205 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: they should have notified concress or they could have filed 206 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: a civil lawsuit if they thought that there was a 207 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: violation of the Presidential Records Act. They should not have 208 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: gone to the Biden Justice Department and got an unnecessary, unlawful, 209 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: unprecedented homerade on a former president based upon focus predicate crimes. 210 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: It is not legally possible for president trump to have 211 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: violated the espionage act, the Federal Records Act or obstruction 212 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: of justice related to president trump's handling or taking of 213 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,359 Speaker 1: residential records. It's not. It's not possible. Aren't these disputes 214 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: with the National Archives Pretty Standard for former presidents? Yes, they're, 215 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: they're routine. There's a routine give and take between the bureaucrats, 216 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: the librarians at the archives and former presidents. Again, President 217 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Clinton had eight years of highly classified tapes of his presidency, 218 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: including his discussions with foreign leaders, which would be the 219 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: most classified secrets imaginable. Clinton had these in his sock 220 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: drawer in the the Obama Judge in two thousand twelve 221 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: said that's fine. President Clinton declared that these are personal 222 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: end of story. Quick Break War with Mike Davis. And 223 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: so right now you've got the Federal District Judge Eileen 224 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: Cannon has appointed a special master, senior Ram, senior judge 225 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: Raymond deary. He has a deadline of November. You know, 226 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of go through the Tiktok of what's going on 227 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: right now with that. I know there's a dispute over, 228 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, the trump team criticizing the department of Justice. 229 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: They're trying to shield classified documents from this special master's review. 230 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: Kind of go through where that is right now and 231 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: kind of what you're anticipating to transpire from this review 232 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: of the documents by this special master. So actually the 233 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: classified documents, that means the documents that are marked classified. 234 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: That is actually a red herring argument. The classification marking 235 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: is not even relevant. Again, Judge Cannon laid this out 236 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: clearly in the special master's order. What happened is is they, 237 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: the Biden Justice Department, illegally obtained eleven thousand records from 238 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: President Trump, from a biased magistrate judge issuing this unprecedented, 239 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: unnecessary and lawful warrants. What judge cannon is simply asking 240 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: the special master to do and the Biden Justice Department 241 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: to do is pause, take up breath. Let's get our 242 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: arms wrapped around these eleven, eleven thousand documents and let's 243 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: put them into four buckets. The first bucket or personal 244 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: records that are not privileged, right personal records that are 245 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: not attorney client privileged, or medical records or tax records. 246 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: The second bucket are personal records that are privileged, attorney 247 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: client privileged, medical records, tax records, maybe other spousal communications 248 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: would be privileged. The third bucket are presidential records that 249 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: are not privileged, meeting not subject to claims of executive privilege. 250 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: Those could include classified records or non classified records. In 251 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: the fourth bucket are presidential records that's are that are 252 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: that that are privileged and that included that could include 253 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: executive privilege, either classified or non classified. It doesn't matter 254 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: whether they're classified. The issue is what bucket they go into, 255 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: personal or presidential, privileged or not privileged. That's all judge 256 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: cannon cares about and that's all she should care about 257 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: under the Presidential Records Act. And then once they put 258 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: those eleven thousand document it's, into those four buckets, then 259 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: judge cannon can figure out where the disputes are. If 260 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: if the government says no, this should be a presidential 261 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: record and trump says no, it should be a personal record, 262 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: this should be a privileged record. No, this should not 263 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: be a privileged record. That's what the special master is 264 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: supposed to do. It does not matter whether they're classified 265 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: or not. The only thing that judge cannon ordered the 266 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: special master to do was review the class of the 267 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: documents marked classified first. So that takes away the Biden 268 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: Justice Department's argument that by waiting too long it inhibits 269 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: their criminal probe of trump. So candid says, okay, you 270 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: can still do your national security assessments, but you just 271 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: have to pause on the criminal probe until we sort 272 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: through these hundred classified documents, which we're going to do first, 273 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: and then you can go forward with that. But remember 274 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: trump almost certainly does not have the only or the 275 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: original copy of these records marked classified. They came presumably 276 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: from an Intel Agency, the CIA, the D N I, 277 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: one of the Department of Defense Agencies, the states department. 278 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: So they would be classified there, they would have a 279 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: class that they would have the copy there. So it's 280 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: not like trump has the only copy. He has a copy. 281 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Isn't the whole point of the fourth amendment to protect 282 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: people from search warrant that they used against trump and 283 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: this overly broad fishing expedition that included just boxes next 284 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: to the documents that they were trying to find? APPS 285 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: if you go into anyone's home and you come out 286 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: with eleven thousand documents, that is a pretty good sign 287 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: that that is an unconstitutional, illegal general warrants. Under the 288 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: fourth amendments, the warrants have to be limited in time 289 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: and place and manner and scope. When you go in 290 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: and get eleven thousand documents, you have got you have 291 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: almost certainly not done any of those things. This is 292 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: clearly an unconstitutional, illegal home rate on the face of 293 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the warrants, and it's even more illegal because a biased judge, 294 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: a biased judge under the US code and the judicial 295 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: canons signed off on this warrant when he should not have. 296 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: What do you think legally happens then? I mean, you know, 297 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: what's sort of the sequencing of the next few steps 298 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: with this? What should we be looking out for? What 299 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: I think will happen? What should happen is they're gonna 300 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: put these documents into the four buckets and then trump's 301 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: gonna say that these are all personal records, I've declassified them, 302 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: they're all personal records that belong to me. Give all 303 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: eleven thousand back. or He could say that looks these 304 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: are the personal records. Here the presidential records, but under 305 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: the Presidential Records Act I have unfettered access, and so 306 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: do my designees under the Presidential Records Act, to all 307 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: of these presidential records, regardless of how they're marked, classified 308 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: or non classified. He trump should absolutely get back eleven 309 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: thousand documents after this is over. Do you think he's 310 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: facing any legal liability or he shouldn't be facing any 311 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: legal liability? If they actually followed the law, he could 312 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the Biden Justice Department could try to indict him for 313 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: for for these nine crimes. I think that you could 314 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: get some uh. You know, D C is nine Democrat 315 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: and the five percent of Republicans are trump deranged rhinos. 316 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: So there's a very good chance that if you went 317 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: to a D C uh jury, that the jury is 318 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: going to fight him guilty and that the D C 319 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: unit party judge would convict. There's a good chance that 320 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: they would go to the D C circuit and they 321 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: would have formed that convention conviction. But there's, I think, 322 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: no chance that the Supreme Court, including even Democratic Point 323 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: at justice is like Justice Kegan, would allow this conviction 324 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: to stand because this is so much bigger than Donald Trump. 325 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: This is about the presidency and the separation of powers 326 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: and this president would destroy the presidency. So how long 327 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: would that process take from where we are now? Obviously 328 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: the review that's transpiring transpiring currently and that if it 329 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: was to go to the Supreme Court, I bet that 330 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: is what they betting at. Taking this in D C, 331 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: indicting him with biased, you know, judge and all of that. 332 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: So how long would this process take between now and 333 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: potentially reaching the Supreme Court? I would think that the 334 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court would hear this quickly, considering that president trump 335 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: is a likely presidential candidates so they can't let this 336 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: hang out there. So I think they would make it 337 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: a very high priority, and they should right, and so 338 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: they would. They would. They would probably order expeditious review 339 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: by the D C circuit and then review that case 340 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: depending on how the D C circuit rules. Now. Did 341 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: the fact that the FBI decided not to investigate Hillary Clinton? 342 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: Does that set any sort of precedent for trump's team 343 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: to turn to, even though she did not have ultimate 344 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: authority like President Trump did? Well, and Actually Hillary Clinton's 345 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: case is much, much worse, much much worse. Actually, president 346 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: trump violated no lass. Hillary Clinton was the president and 347 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: she'll never be the president. So therefore she doesn't have 348 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: the inherent constitutional power as commander in chief to declassify 349 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: anything she wants. She doesn't have the power under the 350 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 1: presidential records act to take presidential records because she's not 351 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: the president. So the Espionage Act, the classified Information Protection Act, 352 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: all the other acts applied to her, as does the 353 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: as does the Federal Records Act. And remember when Hillary 354 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: Clinton had her illegal home server with our most classified 355 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: secrets as the secretary of State, it was hacked by 356 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: our enemies. They they hatched this server right and then 357 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: when she was caught, she blitch bleach Bidd it the 358 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: server and took a hammer to the cell phones. Right. 359 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: So clear unquestionable espionage act violation, clear unquestionable destruction, theft 360 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: of government property, clear obstruction of justice, and not a 361 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: damn thing happens to her because she's Hillary Clinton. And 362 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: we have two systems of justice in America right, one 363 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: for the ruling UNIPARTY and one for everyone else. How 364 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: do you get back to a place where people regain 365 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: trust in the rule of law in America? Well, I 366 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: think that there needs to be a complete house cleaning 367 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: of the leadership of the FBI, along with the leadership 368 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: of main justice. And instead of having an FBI where 369 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: there's only one politically appointed director who's appointed for a 370 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: ten year up to a tenure term, they need to 371 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: have a the top, at least the top three layers 372 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: of the FBI need to be presidentially appointed and Senate confirmed, 373 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: and so they're accountable to the president and they're accountable 374 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: to the to the Senate and to the House for 375 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: real oversight and accountability, because what happens now is when 376 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: Democrats are in charge, they put in left wing FBI 377 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: directors to run the show like coming and then when 378 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: Republicans are in charge we get cowed into putting week 379 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: week Uniparty FBI actors like Chris Ray, and then the 380 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: FBI runs Chris Ray instead of ray running the FBI. 381 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: So we need to have serious reforms. If Republicans take 382 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: back the Senate, which is looking more likely, my former 383 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: boss Chuck Grassley will become the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman again. 384 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: There's No one who does better oversight than Chuck Grassley. 385 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: He's been doing it for decades and he's been onto 386 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: the FBI's games for decades. If Republicans take back the 387 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: House and the Senate, there will be serious structural reforms 388 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: to the FBI into main justice, and that's exactly what 389 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: needs to happen. This is not an attack on the 390 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: rank and file members of the FBI. There's are those 391 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: are good men and women at the fifty six field 392 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: office around the country. This is about the rotten to 393 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: the core political leadership at at the main justice and 394 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: at the FBI headquarters in DC. What do you think 395 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: should happen to the I mean should we abolish the FBI? 396 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: Is the FBI, you know, beyond repair at this point. 397 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't need to think it needs to be abolished 398 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: because they do important work, but the whole national security 399 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: counter espionage apparatus needs to be ripped apart and rebuilt 400 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: and make sure that there are key plays, there are 401 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: key checks and balances in place. We made a huge 402 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: mistake after nine eleven by passing the Patriot acts, and 403 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: it's just what the civil I was for it at 404 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: the time. I was young and stupid. It was just 405 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: what the Civil Libertarians worried about, that they would that 406 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: people would take over these intel agencies, both domestic and international, 407 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: and they would weaponize them, politicize them against their enemies, 408 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what has happened in the last six years, 409 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: starting in the Obama Administration, and that needs to be changed. 410 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: There needs to be a church commission to look at 411 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: the FBI from top to bottom and to rip the 412 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: leadership apart and rebuild it. I mean, I think the 413 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: concern now is just, you know, our federal government is 414 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: just so corrupt. I mean you look at the weaponization 415 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: of government against president trump more so than anyone, but 416 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: even going after parents at these school board meetings. We 417 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: look at the collusion between the federal government and big 418 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: teck to silence opposition. I mean, we've really just reached 419 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: this very scary place where the federal government has so 420 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: much power and it's being wielded against half of the country. Absolutely, 421 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: and they're not even pretending anymore. I mean they'll let 422 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: people illegally threaten and intimidate Supreme Court justices and their 423 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: families outside of their homes, leading to a one a 424 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: m assassination attempt against justice kavanaugh's wife, Ashley, and their 425 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: two daughters, and Merritt Garland and FBI Director Chris Ray 426 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: don't do a damn thing. They say that this is 427 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: somehow their first amendment right to harass and intimidate federal 428 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: judges at their homes, and absolutely is not. When the house? When? When? 429 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: When Republicans take over the house, they must impeach Garland 430 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: and Chris Ray for what they've done. How they have 431 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: weaponized the Justice Department, including the FBI, and it's unacceptable. 432 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: We could not let this happen. Even if the Senate 433 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: does not remove them, the process is the punishment here. 434 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: They need to feel a they need to pay the 435 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: price for allowing this to happen. Quick break stay with us. 436 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: I think what laid the ground for personally, it was 437 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: covid and we just allowed the government to obtain so 438 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: much power and people just rolled over and then it 439 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: was sort of on from then. I think that's when 440 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: they really stopped hiding anything. Yeah, I mean I agree 441 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: with you. I mean I I certainly wasn't quiet, as 442 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: evidence by my getting kicked off with twitter five times 443 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: during covid. But I've Said said this from day one. 444 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: We are letting Tony FAUCI and the biomedical state, colluded 445 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: with Big Tech and collude with big government to censor, silence, 446 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: Deep Platform Uh people for questioning the science and even 447 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: doctors and scientists questioning the science and FOUCI, even Senator 448 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: Ran Paul, a medical doctor, was a U S senator, 449 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: getting kicked off of Youtube for for questioning Tony Fauci 450 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: for a scientific debate. Before, three years ago it was 451 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: perfectly acceptable to have scientific debates. That was the scientific method. 452 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: But with the UH. You know, this is not Lisa, 453 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: this is not our parents, are grandparents, Democrat party anymore. 454 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: These are not liberals who love America and just disagree 455 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: with Conservatives on the best way to get to the 456 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: to get to the to the best result for all Americans. 457 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: These are leftist, these are Marxists, these are people who 458 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: hate America and they want to destroy America. They want 459 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: to divide in Carquer America. This is this is what 460 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: we need to go into this fight, these elections, Eyes 461 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: Wide Open. We're in a different ballgame. After is it 462 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: possible to go back to pre covid days where we 463 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: as Americans had more individual rights? And I mean obviously 464 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: the federal government was a threat, but not to the 465 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: same degree that it is even today. Is it possible 466 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: to go back? It is possible and it must happen, 467 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: and what we need to start doing, frankly, is the 468 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: federal judiciary needs to start dismantling these federal agencies that 469 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: are not enumerated in the constitution. Right if, if the 470 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 1: our our constitution is a loan agreement between we the 471 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: people and our government's right we loan the federal government 472 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: and state government's specific, Limited, divided, enumerated powers. Right, and 473 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: if we do not loan the government these powers, they 474 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: do not have the power. We the people are the 475 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: sovereign in America's radically different from Europe, from the United 476 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Kingdom from which we fled. Back then, the crown, the monarch, 477 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: was the sovereign. The power came from God to the 478 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: monarch and the monarch lent power to its people through 479 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: like the Magna Carta. In America it's different. Power comes 480 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: from God to we the people, and we loan power 481 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: to the government. It's it's not the other way around, 482 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and we have lost that in this country and I 483 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: these federal judges need to start stepping up and peeling 484 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: back federal power, and they've started to do this. Like 485 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: this Judge Mazel Down in Florida should be championed as 486 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: a hero. She's the one who struck down the C 487 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: D C s science, free law, free mindless mask mandates 488 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: on planes and trains, and the left went banana saying 489 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: that she's gonna kill everyone by doing this. She made 490 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: the right move, that the CDC does not have this 491 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: power under the constitution, under statute at all, yet they 492 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: use this power to, you know, try to control every 493 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: our movements. For two years of COVID judge mizell struck 494 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: this down and she was right. We need more courageous 495 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: judges like judge Myzell to step up. Well, you know 496 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: now you even have the president admitting that the pandemic 497 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: is over, when in reality it was never the pandemic 498 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: that they were uh, you know, abusing power over. It 499 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: was just an excuse to abuse power, unfortunately. But I 500 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: really think the only path forward for our country, if 501 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: it's to survive, is just, UH, getting Republicans in Congress 502 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: and hopefully a Republican president that has the guts to 503 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: reign in the federal government and dismantle as much of 504 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: it as humanly possible and legally possible. I agree with 505 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: you if it essentially if we didn't have this government 506 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: agency before FDR, get rid of it, send it back 507 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: to the states and to the people. Right. That's that's 508 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good line. It's it's the wicker case, the 509 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: commerce case, the weak case, where the Supreme Court switch 510 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: in time. That saved nine. It was before that case 511 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: the supreme the Supreme Court, the lower courts were striking 512 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: down these new deal government programs, saying the federal government 513 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: does not have the power to do what you claim 514 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: it has to do. FDR threatened to pack the Supreme 515 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: Court and so the Supreme Courts switched their votes and 516 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: started allowing the federal government to do anything they want, essentially, 517 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: and what we have done is turned the constitution from 518 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: a shield that protects we, the people, from from the 519 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: Federal Government into a sword that the federal government uses 520 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: against the people. And it just it needs to change. 521 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: This is not sustainable. It's not sustainable when President Biden 522 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: can get on national TV and declare seventy four million 523 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Americans dangerous to democracy. It's not sustainable when you can 524 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: do home raids on a former president and your chief 525 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: political political rival, along with his top White House AIDS 526 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: and now even, you know, hundred, you know hundreds of 527 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: his supporters. This is not sustainable. This is what they 528 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: do and Third World Marxist hell holes before they fail. 529 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's where we're I mean 530 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: even during covid there's a poll where almost half the 531 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Democrats wanted to put people like me who didn't get 532 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: vaccinated and you know, government camps. So and I think 533 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: that would apply for, you know, just being a you know, 534 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: having supported trump and and being a, you know, a 535 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: conservative as well. How much power does a president have 536 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: to dismantle government on his or her own? Uh, you 537 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: can use executive orders to limit the power, while you're 538 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: the president, but it. I just don't think the political 539 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: branches will have the will to do this. There's always 540 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: pressure on the political branches to build more government and 541 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: more government and more government. I really do think it's 542 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna come down to courageous federal judges who say, okay, 543 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Biden or whoever is the president at the time, where 544 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: in the constitution, where specifically in the constitution do you 545 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: think you have the power to do this? And if 546 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: you can't point to it in the constitution, you can't 547 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: do that. That's that's what needs to happen and until 548 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: that happens, nothing's going to change. Well, you know, thank 549 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: God under trump we got a lot of judges approved 550 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: and confirmed, so hopefully we have more brave people step up. 551 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: Mike Davis, I appreciate your voice and for joining the 552 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: show and explaining all this to us. It was very helpful. 553 00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time. Thank you for having me. Lisa, 554 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: that was my Davis. I don't know about you, but 555 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: I found that extremely helpful, just to kind of go through, 556 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: give the Tiktok, give an honest review of what's actually 557 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: going on with the raid. What we need to know. Uh, 558 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: and then just, you know, getting into a little bit 559 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: more of the federal abuse that we're saying. So I 560 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: appreciate his time. Appreciate your time for listening to the show. 561 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: When I thank my producer, John Cassio, for putting it together, 562 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: please leave us a review on apple the greatest five stars. 563 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. Every Monday every Thursday 564 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: new episodes, but you can listen throughout the week. Thanks 565 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: so much. Take care.