1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod, which Teddy meloncan't and camera 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: edge good morning. Well it's not good morning, good morning 3 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: for us, and we are disaster zones over here at 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: two cheese in a pod. I mean, we obviously can't 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: talk about it. But as I'm sure you saw by 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the pictures, Tam had a busy day yesterday, busy day, 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: and I'm freaking exhausted it got home there might have 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: been some tequila shows, got home pretty late last night, 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: and then I couldn't go to sleep because my mind 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: was just buzzing. So then God I went to bed. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Finally got up at four in the morning because I 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: had to watch a couple of housewatch shows. Souse I 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: haven't had time was Beverly Hills in Salt Lake City, 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: which neither one of them disappointed. No, neither one disappointed. 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: And in honor of last night's repeated shirt offender, we 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: have decided to wear own Jesus, fix It, Fix It 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: with Kathy and Kyle um and love Love, Oh you 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: look like? What was cathy shirt? Say love or peace? 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: Peace Peace? Both times that she wore it, it said peace. 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Um okay. So so funny that she was so happy 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: with herself about wearing that shirt again. I'm here for peace. 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: It's peace. Um. But before we get into any housewives 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: headlines or um recaps, let's do our institution as this 24 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: one is kind of interesting. Why don't any of the 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: housewives wear seatbelts? Have you noticed this? That a lot 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: when they're in the cars, they don't have seatbelts on. Well, 27 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. A lot of times you 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: pull up. Let I'll take a for instance, I pull 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: up to cut Fitness and I go inside. I talked 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: to the producers and they're like, okay, we need to 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: drive up so you can't get back in your car. 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 1: And you drive up and then it's a two second 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: dry and you don't think about putting your seatbelt on. 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I got very mindful of it because I did get 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: called out once like I have to wear my seatbelt 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: in my car and my car won't start freaking danging, 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: you know the sensor. So I think that's why, UM, 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: I do say in the back if I'm being driven around, 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I have a really good driver this year, and he 40 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: always tells me, Tamara. Donald tells me, Tamara, is your 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: seatbelt on? And I said, oh, thank you Donald? And 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: I put my seatbelt on, but in the back stat 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm really bad about it. I know, and I think 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: also a lot of times, yes, you're correct when I'm 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: said about the drive up. They always want to see 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: you getting out of the car. I don't know why 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: because and they never even show it. Um but a 48 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: lot of people don't want it to wrinkle whatever high 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: end fancy outfit they have on. So I don't really 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: have problems with that one. Well, yeah, I mean neither, 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: but I I see that like sometimes like depend on 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: what you wear for a wrinkles really bad. But I 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: mine personally can't drive my car with that bas belt on. 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: I personally can't drive. So you know, we need we 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: need to work on that. I drove yesterday. I drove 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: you know how far a mile m So you actually 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: could have walked. I could. I could have. The Only 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: reason I didn't walk us because I had a lot 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: of things in the car that I needed to drop somewhere. 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: So so why do you have a car if you 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: never drive? Because like this is gonna sound so nuts, 62 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: I can drive on Wednesdays. Don't even continue. You can 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: drive on Wednesdays. Wednesday, It's like part of I think 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: it's part of my O C D. But like Wednesdays 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: is a good driving day, Saturday is a good driving day. 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: It's just something. Saturday is the busiest day of the week. 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: I know, but I can, I think because I can 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: ultimately drive to the barn. So Wednesday and Saturday mornings 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I drive slate to the barn. Well, what happens if 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: you get wild and drive on a Tuesday? I mean 71 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: I could drive. Well, see, that's why you guys, I've 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: taken my I walk my kids to the bus, so 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: like I don't have to really drive. I can walk 74 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: to the rotary store. I work from home. Where do 75 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: I walk to the grocery store? Than you're the one 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: walking down the street with a cart. Now I don't 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: have a cart. I like go so often that I 78 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: just have like the two bags and then all my 79 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: things are in walking distance. The dermatologist, I don't have 80 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: an You're essentially located that you have to walk everywhere. 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm centrally located, Thank goodness. Um. The next question is, Teddy, 82 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: would you have kept pressing Kathy like Renna or stopped 83 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: after her apology? UM? My answer to that is it 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: would have depended on what she said. Um, but I 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: also think my delivery is slightly different. What would you 86 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: have done, Tam, because you're always just so subtle in 87 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: your delivery. Oh, I'm so subtle in my delivery. Um. 88 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: I think that we're talking about the Renna Cathy at 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: the end, Like I mean, I think that she kept 90 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: pushing it and pushing it and pushing it, and I 91 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: think that there was a part of her that was 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: doing it just for good TV. It's like, I'm not 93 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: letting you off. And then it came across a little aggressive. 94 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that Lisa's message was bad, but 95 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: her continuing to push and push and push makes her 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: look bad. And I've had this happened to a million times, 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Like I want to get my point across, and my 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: point might be right, but if you're too aggressive in 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: your point of view, you just look like a jerk. 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: And I felt like Lisa started to look at jerk. 101 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: She could have cut it off a little bit sooner. Yeah, 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: Like I think at the beginning, you could totally you 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: can see both sides. You can start to see, Oh, 104 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: I can see both sides, and I definitely think Cathy's 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: hiding something there's no doubt, and I think that's what happened. 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: Then you know this part we'll get into more. But 107 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: whenever thing's happened off camera, that that's always going to 108 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: be problematic. Which is part of the reason why I 109 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: love Lisa Barlow so much, Which is our next question, 110 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: it's who is your favorite from Salt Lake? Because she 111 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: did what a house life was supposed to do. She 112 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: waited during the off season, did not apologize to heradith 113 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: off camera. So we are coming in fresh to a 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: new season, left off the reunion, right right, and you 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: can fill that smart. How long? How long of a 116 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: break did they have, do you know? Well, I mean 117 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: we were already I mean we've been podcasting all the 118 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: way through their whole last season and their bread I 119 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: would say maybe two months, but I remember they started 120 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: filming early because of the gin Shaw stuff. Yeah, so 121 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of time in between. Like 122 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: some of these shows start filming immediately. Like look at Atlanta. 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: There's I don't know if it's true, but there's you know, 124 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: post out there saying that they're already filming and they've 125 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: announced to like the new you know, final If it's 126 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: a friend or a New Housewife and I'm like, they 127 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: don't do that anywhere else. Yeah, No, I think they 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: just they want to get right going. But I think 129 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: it's also something to think about is when you are 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: filming Housewives during Bravo Con, A lot goes down at 131 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Bravo Con. So like for you guys filming o C 132 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: for Atlanta, who is filming for you know, I'm freaked 133 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: out about that, Yeah, because she really goes down and 134 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: what goes down, and it's, um, it's pretty crazy to 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: think like we're gonna all be away from cameras for 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: five days or however long it is in all in 137 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: the same hotel pretty much, and it's yeah, it's I know, 138 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: I just got like my press schedule and all the 139 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: different things, and I'm like, this is gonna be intense. 140 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: And if you guys haven't gotten tickets, make sure you 141 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: still have time. Um, but it I feel like i 142 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: just need to bring my own little handicam and I'm 143 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: just gonna film, yes, Teddy Walters Teddy Walter Walters on 144 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: location like cam we go out to dinners or too 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: parties or whatever. I'm just gonna have my cam and 146 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: just be like yeah, because no one will even care. 147 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: That's the problem. When you're in the middle of a 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: bravocn fight, people are like, whatever, Yeah, it's gonna be epic, 149 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be good, but okay. Housewife headline Leslie Badoor 150 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: post she has filed for divorce with a photo with 151 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: her daughter on the beach. She also posted on her 152 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: Instagram stories. Her main caption says, I'm filing for divorce. 153 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: While this is not what I have ever expected, it 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: is what is best. I value myself and the happiness 155 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: and well being of my children. I am so grateful 156 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: for a tremendous circle of friends and family who support me. 157 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Looking forward to a bright and happy future with my 158 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: beautiful kiddos. Then, on her story, she writes, I have 159 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: a lot to share, will one day. For now, I'm 160 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: going to focus on spending all my free time with 161 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: my amazing kiddos and laughing with my friends. I'm so 162 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: sure you're laughing up a storm. Do you think that 163 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: I should have Leslie share on the pod with MOA. 164 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with it, but yeah 165 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: you can. Um it's really weird to me, like he 166 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: filed for divorce, and then she announced he didn't announce. 167 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: She announced that he called it off. But then but 168 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: then there was convicting, Yeah, conflicting views, and somebody from 169 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: the court said, no, that's never happened. But sometimes it 170 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: takes two weeks to go public. So and now she's 171 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: filing for divorce. My question is, why the hell does 172 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: she have a check next to her name? Because of 173 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: the first time around, remember when she like lost it. 174 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: I can't remember what walmart about Walmart? Yeah, where she 175 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: like I feel like she got a checkmark somewhere around 176 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: that time because she's not a public any or whatever. 177 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: So anyway, so she now has claimed that she filed 178 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: for divorce, which is crazy, but then she has to 179 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: go and talk about it, like why can't you why 180 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: why are you talking about it? Why are you telling it? 181 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Because she must want to be on the show that's 182 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: never gonna happen The Housewives. Yes, oh that will never happen. 183 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: That is never gonna happen. But I do think possibility 184 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: that she could be reaching out to Shannon soon. I 185 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: think that's the possibility. But also I mean I think 186 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: I think she would probably come on and talk to us. 187 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: But you know, there's a part of me. She hates 188 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: me so well, I'm sure she hates me too. I probably, 189 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: you know most people do. It's a hate love. It's 190 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: like hate sex, Like you can't help but listen to it, 191 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: but you hate it. Okay, Um, you gotta get into 192 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: the next one. Oh my gosh, So real Housewives of 193 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills start. Erica james mansion sold for seven point 194 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: five million to payback victims of husband Tom's embezzlement. So 195 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: Radar Online broke the story. Erica james one time lavish 196 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: mansion shared with her strange husband Tom has been sold 197 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: off as part of the lawyers in voluntary bankruptcy. Radar 198 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: online dot Com has learned. According to the court documents, 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: the trustee presiding over Girardi's Chapter seven case has informed 200 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: the court that buyers named June Tao and Ping Tao 201 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: have put forth and offer for seven point five million. 202 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's a that's a lot of money in the 203 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: new court. Finally, the trustees asked the judge to sign 204 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: off on the deal and allowed the proceeds to pay 205 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: back a few of the mini creditors. The home had 206 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: initially been put on the market for thirteen million. Holy crap, 207 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: so it went for almost half as part of the bankruptcy. 208 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: In one, however, the trustees had been forced to slash 209 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: the price several times over the course of several months. 210 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: The asking price was lowered to eleven point five million, 211 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: then down to nine point nine eight million, and then 212 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: down to eight point nine million. Yeah, and I mean 213 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: I then finally sold for seven point five What a steal? What? Well, 214 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: I think that's because the house really needed an upgrade. 215 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Oh you think, yes, so, I you know, I think 216 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: it just kept getting slashed. But also I think that 217 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: all of their items were also auctioned off. I think 218 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna ask, like, did it sell 219 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: with everything in it? Or everything was auctioned off? No? 220 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: I think there it's two separate things. But then you 221 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: go to wonder, you know, how much of this money 222 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: will actually go to the victims, and how much goes 223 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: to lawyers? And how much do we know if the 224 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: house is paid off? I don't know. I would have. Well, 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: it's in bankruptcy, so that yeah, But isn't the bank 226 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: going to get part of this money? That's what I'm saying. 227 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: How much will actually go to That's what I was 228 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: wondering if the house people bought it straight out, Yeah, yeah, 229 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: and the house was like the Tom and Erica had 230 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: paid cash for the house or something, and then now, like, 231 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: is all that money going towards the victims? I would 232 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: probably think not. I'm sure they had a mortgage on it, 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: so part of it has to go to the bank 234 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: as well. But even if they owned it straight out, 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: the people buying it now probably aren't buying it cash. 236 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows we have I don't know, but uh, 237 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: you don't know. We do not know, Okay. Real Housewife 238 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City star Heather Gay I will never 239 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: shut the door on jin Shaw Full Today Show article here. 240 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Gay was hopeful about her relationship with Barlow during season three. 241 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: Heather says after the season two reunions, she and Barlow 242 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: went to dinner together at Leasta bought a bottle of 243 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: Vita tequila. Gay said she felt really hopeful that Lisa 244 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: and I could get to a great place and really 245 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: enjoy each other. Gaze. Hope didn't last long, as Gay 246 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: told Today, I can tease that nothing changes about our 247 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: relationship during the season three um. She also shares that 248 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 1: her relationship with Whitney Rose is deeply painful, which I 249 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: think if you watch watch What Happens Live last night, 250 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: you can see that there is a lot of bad 251 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: blood there between the cousins, h between the cousins. And 252 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: then um Gay said she portrayed everybody by writing her book. 253 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: I didn't realize how deeply loyal I was to the 254 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: faith I no longer believed in, and moreover, to my 255 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: family and my friends who still deeply believed. I was 256 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to tell my story honestly 257 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: and cannot betray everyone I love the most guests what happened, 258 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't figure it out, So I betrayed everybody and 259 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: wrote the book. As a result, I'm proud of it 260 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: good and I stand behind every single word. And I 261 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't have taken the risk and challenge relationships with people 262 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: I love the most if it weren't true. Um and 263 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: then final things she said was she will never shut 264 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: the door on jin Shaw. That's what a good friend does, 265 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: even if every cell in my body was like, something's 266 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: not right. That's not what you do when your friends 267 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: are in trouble. I wasn't supporting Jen and her Ennsis, 268 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: so much. I was just supporting Jen and her journey. 269 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: If I'm going to be Jen's friend when she's up 270 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: and queen and m v P, I'm going to be 271 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: her friend when she's down pleading guilty and facing sentencing, 272 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: I will never shut the door on jin Shaw, Gay continued. Okay, 273 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: so she's already to betrayal her friends, but she's there 274 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: for gen Sa. You mean betray her family. Yeah, but 275 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: the betrayal is okay, But when it comes to gen Shaw, 276 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: she's there to the end. She is there to the end. 277 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: A K. I am scared of jin Shaw and I 278 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: somewhere exactly. Um, that's that. That was interesting. So Camille 279 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: strikes again. This woman can't stop commenting on Beverly Hills Housewives, 280 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: can't she well, and then we have to point out 281 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: that people will then say the same thing to me, 282 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: like Teddy, you're just as bad as because I've made 283 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: a comment about this before, and people, this is a job, 284 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: you get paid for it. But like this, look at 285 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: these notes, these chicken scratch notes. This is work. This 286 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: isn't like a little work, This isn't like a little 287 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: whim like And also can Camille, once again pointing out 288 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: the obvious and pandering to the audience. But go ahead 289 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: and read, Oh my god. So Camille weighs in on 290 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: our recent post. She says, Renn it is a hypocrite. 291 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: So Bravo Housewives posted. Is this this is on Instagram 292 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: or is this Twitter? I think she's probably two. Okay, 293 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: extended to sneak peak, Kathy and ren A face off 294 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: tonight on the new Real House is Beverly Hills follow 295 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Bravo house whatever, and then can put I can never 296 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: say this word hypocrisy, you said, I know, I can 297 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: never say the hypocrisy and then she and then it's 298 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: pinned somehow they pinned it to the top right, and 299 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: then Camille goes everyone has lost their temper on Housewives, 300 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: especially if they have been pushed to limit gaslight by 301 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: some ladies. But here's the thing. I get that everyone 302 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: is pushed to their limit. However, in this moment when 303 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: Kathy loses it, Kathy wasn't being pushed by any of 304 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: the ladies. They weren't treating her terribly. So if we 305 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: go back and look at the history of time when 306 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: women have lost it, it's because things are hit Like 307 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: when you lost it in the where were you in Ireland? Yeah, 308 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: I've lost it everywhere in the world, but it was 309 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: because somebody was coming at you. I rarely lose it 310 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: for no reason like I have to. There's there's gotta 311 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: be a reason, Like what Kathy was losing it over 312 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: was a hectic work schedule or what you know, something 313 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: had opening about a drink, but like people weren't coming 314 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: for her. I'm still really royally confused on what really 315 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: pushed over. It started with the tequila, like Renna not 316 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: ordering the right tequila, and then just escalated from there 317 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: and they just never stopped and it just never stopped. 318 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: But you know, you realize in this episode that the 319 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: women didn't even realize she was losing it at Chimo 320 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: Sabi No. I know. So you're like, WHOA, Well, that's 321 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: when when she's like Kyle's doing nothing, Kyle's oblivious to 322 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: what is going on. She's like doing whatever she's doing. 323 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: It's like it's not like she's sitting there watching with 324 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: Rena's drinking. So I mean, yes, do I think everything 325 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: was handled correctly in this episode? Absolutely not. But do 326 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: I think you can do a parallel of women losing 327 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: it on Housewife? For absolutely no reason. Now, it's just 328 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: so difficult when things happen off camera and then you 329 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: try to put the pieces together. The one thing that 330 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: I am confused about is that Renna has a mouth, 331 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: Like she's the mouth and the show, and she will 332 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: call everybody out and say how she feels in a 333 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: sometimes an aggressive manner. Why has she not exposed Like 334 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: at the very beginning, she's very like she didn't want 335 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: to say what happened. I mean, I think the same 336 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: way that we can't always say what happens we have bosses. 337 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: But she said like a lot was said about Kyle. 338 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: You know, she said a lot about Kyle. But then 339 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: I never really fully have heard unless I missed it, 340 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: what she said about Kyle. Well, I think first like 341 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: what I saw in this episode at least was Kyle 342 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: was saying she didn't want to know because it would 343 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: hurt her feelings too much, or maybe I saw that 344 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: on the Bravo after show or whatever those things are 345 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: where you like sitting next to somebody on those chairs, 346 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: I forget what they're called. Um, but Kyle says like 347 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: I never wanted to know the extent because I don't 348 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: want to have to live without her I don't hurt 349 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: my feelings too much, um is what she said then. 350 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: But I think that's what we're you know, even in 351 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: the episode, Kyle says she doesn't want to know. Okay, 352 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: so that makes more sense. Um, sure, but yeah, Camille 353 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: is just you know, she Camille. Here's the thing. I 354 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: don't even mind. Like if people are to tweet and 355 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: they're not getting paid to tweet, but Camille when she's 356 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: actually in your face, has nothing to say. Yeah, she backpedals, 357 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: so we all remember that. So oh, this next one 358 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: is Jim Shaw tweets about Lisa Barlow. So last night 359 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live, Andy asked Lisa Barlow and 360 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: um Whitney h if they will keep in contact with 361 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Coach Shaw and the kids if Jen goes to prison, 362 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: and Lisa says, I don't really know Jen's kids, but 363 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: I think they're doing great things. And if I see 364 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Coach i'd be super nice to him. He's been great 365 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: to me. And Whitney says, yeah, if her kids ever 366 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 1: need anything, I would be there for her kids. I 367 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: don't think they're necessarily in this moment saying anything bad. 368 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: They're just no winning out the obvious and then jin 369 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Shaw tweets, I don't want anyone looking after my kids 370 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: that calls them the N word at lista Barlow hashtag, 371 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Watch what Happens Live hashtag rh O SLC hashtag In 372 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 1: a double CP, she when did that happen? I at 373 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: least did this? We don't We've never seen this happen. 374 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and I and I really hope Lisa did 375 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: not say that. I mean, we don't know. I would 376 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: hope she wouldn't say it either. Yeah, I agree, I agree. 377 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: Then there's a of course they right after the episode 378 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: or whenever it was. There's an R H O b 379 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: H deleted scene where Garcelle and Sutton call out the 380 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: group's very obvious double standard. Um Garcela says, Erica and 381 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Derete and Kyle made up very quickly. Derit says 382 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Kyle and I it's like two annoying sisters that fight 383 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: in our you and Sutton says, what's more surprising how 384 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: quickly the apologies are taken. Dred defends herself, I do 385 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: not have the heart to leave someone or not be 386 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: there for someone, and then Crystal says, definitely, a few 387 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: people in this group protect each other at all costs, 388 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: and they would hold none of each other accountable and 389 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: if they do something wrong they get a slap on 390 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: the hand. But with us, the wrath comes out. And 391 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: I'm sick of the double standard. Listen. Yes, do I 392 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: think there's always double standards and Housewives, Yes, But it 393 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: really depends on the person you're fighting with. If you 394 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: see when Garcell was having the issue with Erica recently, 395 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: when she went on the reil and talked about it. 396 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: Immediately Garcell said, I'm sorry, and Erica dropped it, did 397 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: you not? Yeah, No, you're right, You're right, Like it 398 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: really just depends. There's ways to shut down an argument, 399 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: and there's ways to exacerbate in our for sure, for sure. 400 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: So Candy talk seating arrangement for the Real Housewives Atlanta 401 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: reunion with Andy co in Um. She was shocked by 402 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: the lineup where they were sitting. Was that because she 403 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: was at the end, just like Say? Andy said, because 404 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: Say and Marlowe had the most drama, they were sitting 405 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: next to him, which is normal, right, typical. Candy agrees, 406 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: thank you for saying that, So says, it's a seat 407 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: for the people who have been in the most mess 408 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: says Drew and Sonia sitting next to each other was weird, 409 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: and we I think we talked about this on you know, 410 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: one of the reunions, saying it was weird for them 411 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: to be sitting next to each other because her back 412 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: was to her. You know, it was like it was 413 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: a little weird. So I'm not going to disagree with 414 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: what Candy has said. Me eat the Um okay, let's 415 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: take a little break and we'll come back and talk 416 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: about Beverly Hills. We are back, and this is the 417 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: episode before the finale, and I you know, oh, so 418 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: we only have one more episode of Beverly Hills. They're 419 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: in like episode twenty, episode twenty. That is a long season, 420 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: long long season. Okay. It starts out with dried and 421 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: Kyle's face time. Umdre says, Rnna left early and no 422 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: one knew why. However, Crystal actually did know why. And 423 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: then let's i mean also point out the obvious that 424 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: Kathy didn't come on the plane but came in pretending 425 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: all was okay. And you know, that's that's the beginning scene. 426 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: We realized that, uh, that wasn't really going to be addressed, 427 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: and people were at this point going to pick where 428 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to lie on whatever happened of camera. Now, 429 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: what killed me in the very beginning was a little 430 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: scene with her and her daughter I ten men three 431 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: five four three. I'm like, oh my god, Pen, this 432 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: is going to be a star. She is. She she's 433 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: already a little star. Like she knows how to ham 434 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: it up. Get like she she a scene Steeler every 435 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: time she's she's really thinking. But both the kids are 436 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: like that, right, yeah, but Phoenix, I think, I mean, 437 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: Phoenix is just I don't know, she's she's adoring me. Um. 438 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: Then that's when Kyle says she thinks it's maybe best. 439 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: She doesn't know how bad it actually was or what 440 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: things were potentially said. So it was that their makeup 441 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: scene because I kind of feel like, um, when they 442 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: were in unless I missed something, when they were in Aspen, 443 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: Jari was really you know, team Erica and kind of 444 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: like we said, she was playing both sides. Well, I 445 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: think that's just been her thing this entire season. Um. 446 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: I think they made up in Aspen when like she 447 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: got ready. But like obviously they still have that because 448 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: we saw the watch What Happens Live. I mean they 449 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: may have made up, but there's still some sort of 450 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: tension because you saw. That's what I thought, because of 451 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: what happened on Watch Heaven's Live. Okay, yeah, so I 452 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: mean I don't think that everything's hunky dory, No, I know. Um, 453 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: I gotta get props to Erica. Um. I love seeing 454 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: my housewives with no makeup on at their you know, 455 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: when they're sad and upset, and a lot of housewives 456 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: will not do that. Well. I think she learned her 457 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: lesson after that hiking scene from last year. Or she 458 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: was crying and then didn't wipe the tears and there 459 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: was just the line. Yeah, I mean it was sad. 460 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: It broke my heart. Erica says since moving out and 461 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: filing for divorce, she has made therapy a regular thing. 462 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Her therapist tells her that she is not only at 463 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: a loss of her husband, but also at a loss 464 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: of the of who she thought he was. Erica talks 465 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: about how she misses the Tom who made everyone feel good, 466 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: but as sweet as he could be, he could flip. 467 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: So did you ever see him really flip? Or I 468 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: never really saw him. I think I met him one time. 469 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: She had a pretty mess concert. I met him at 470 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: in the green room for one second, like not even 471 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: we didn't even we weren't even introduced. And then the 472 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: second time was at Erica's house where he came in 473 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: and just like told stories about himself the entire time 474 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: and um and but then they do flashback scenes of 475 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: where he is being, you know, dismissive of her, and 476 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: I think that's why she quit bringing him around the group, 477 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: Like wouldn't you be the same, like if you're gonna 478 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: treat me like that on camera? But um, I mean 479 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: two other things came up while I was watching the scene, 480 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: which the ancient MacBook Air was definitely not on the 481 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: list of things to be sold. When I saw the computer, 482 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: I was like, that's like my computer that never turns on. 483 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Um so that And did you recognize the therapist? No? 484 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I didn't, but she was very glad in her zoom. 485 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Who is it? That's Dr jin Well, I think Dr 486 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 1: jin Man. She used to be doctor Jim Berman, who 487 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: was on either couple's therapy familiar, Yes, and she has 488 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: all these books And I mean I liked what she said. 489 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: It made a lot of sense. But the first thing 490 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: I noticed was like she was on that train wreck 491 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: reality show with like and I loved that show, um 492 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: so well, I think because in general, I don't even 493 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: know if that's her real therapist. It could be, it 494 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: could not be. But most therapists are not okay to 495 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: go onto a reality show. Yeah, unless they're like a 496 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: well there like the guy. No oh yeah Dr Ken, 497 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: dr Ken. Yeah. Yeah, unless you're doctor Drew. You really 498 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: don't want to. Yeah, unless you're a celebrity therapist. Most 499 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: of the time they you want to keep a pretty 500 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: low pro for sure. Yeah. I definitely don't see uh, 501 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: my my therapist wanting to make any kind of podcast. Kid, 502 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: She's like, I talked to you one out, honey. Um. 503 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: And then this part really sunk into me was when 504 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: Erica says, I want to believe it all got away 505 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: from Tom, not that he orchestrated it this way, but 506 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: like kind of the way she said it, like like theory, 507 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: and but it felt like a raw moment of being 508 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: afraid and changing her mindset to acceptance, like something I 509 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: think we all forget about everything she's going through. It's 510 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: not just these lawsuits, but she's lost her husband of 511 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: twenty some years, to her house, her security, all that stuff, 512 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: her career, like her other side of her career, like 513 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: which I think that's where she found a lot of 514 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: her happiness was through you know, performing and doing all that. 515 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: We never saw her perform once this season or anything. 516 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: I know, that's what I was thinking, if she was 517 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: going to go back to it, Well, I think it's expensive. 518 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. It's gotta be expensive 519 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: and got to be expensive. I think also some things 520 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: came out in this therapy appointment when you see the 521 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: Dr Jen saying, you know, this is a lot like 522 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,479 Speaker 1: your childhood where you weren't allowed to have a voice, 523 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: and you you know, those are little tidbits that like 524 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: bring us into like things that we don't really know, 525 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: Like she's a human, she's got feelings people. Um. And 526 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: then but she says it again, I'm going to say 527 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: something that isn't popular, and she brings up the fact 528 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: that you know, she also is you know, she's also 529 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: a victim here. Whatever it was that she actually said, um, 530 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: where you're just like, I wish you would leave it 531 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: where it is. We know we know that part. I know, 532 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: let's leave it like this is such a good moment 533 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 1: where we we actually see the softer side of you 534 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: leave it. Yeah. Um, well obviously it's hard for her yeah, um, 535 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: but she does have her her pretty much hey, her 536 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: pop up shop, pretty mass hair pop up shop? Where 537 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: then yeah, say that three times fast hair pop up shop. 538 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: And did you see who was there doing the press? Uh? Lena? Yes, 539 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: I know. When I saw that, I go, okay, yep, 540 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: that well, she used to be a People magazine. I 541 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: don't know where she is now. No, she used to 542 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: be at Hollywood Life. Hollywood Life, and then she went 543 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: to People. Did she move again? I don't know. She's freely. 544 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: I have no idea because it didn't say below People Magazine. 545 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: That's the only reason I'm not sure where she is. 546 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: But it's impossible to go to any event and her 547 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: not be there. Her not be there, right. She was 548 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: like when we went on that hike that day. I 549 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: know when we went up we did like an ad 550 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: for something and went on this hike for like hey, 551 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I'm like hey, and 552 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: she's like, can I enter your first second? Remember remember 553 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: she took Kyle over to the side and we're like 554 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: be careful, We're like and then we were trying to 555 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: have a conversation on the hike, and she kept getting 556 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: closed certain clothes at us, and we're like, no mind, 557 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: we're trying to gossip here and you're gonna leak everything. 558 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Get away. We had to, we had to stifle ourselves 559 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: because she is sweet. She's sweet, she is nice. Um, 560 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: she's I know, she's nice. But but the pop up shop. 561 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: And then, you know what I love the most about 562 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: the pop up shop? When Lisa Wrenna admitted that her 563 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: outfit was rented, well, I don't think Lisa really thought 564 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: they were going to get that part. Well obviously obviously. 565 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: Now my question, but does she rent all her clothes? 566 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: Because you know what, not a bad idea. I'm jealous. 567 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: I wish I knew about this, and then I wouldn't 568 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: have to loan all my clothes to you so that 569 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't have its guilty about buying them. I will 570 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: never borrow another piece of article from you again, because 571 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: you called me out every time. Well, no, it's good, 572 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm borrowing stuff from you. Are you kidding? I already 573 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: saw that the coral dress that you wore, and we 574 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: can't talk about what it was, but not the on 575 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: dress with the other one. I think it's a suit. Yeah, 576 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, the short suit. Yeah of course. Um yeah, 577 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: I want to know if you can find out where 578 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: she rents from, because there's Rent the Runway, but they 579 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: don't really have a lot that stuff like that. That's 580 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: not like stuff like that. It's not high end. But 581 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: we're at the Rent the Runway. I have rented address 582 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: for opening titles once from Rent the Runway because I 583 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 1: needed a specific color Da da da da, and they 584 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: had it. I'm like, what the hell? My guess is 585 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: by rent, she probably means she pays a stylist and 586 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: the stylists borrows and then she you know, like if 587 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: you pay a stylist fee like the high end, they 588 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: can get the I don't know, but that's borrowed, she said. 589 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: She clearly said rent. So I I went online and 590 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I said, well, what the hell? So I put rent 591 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: high end clothes and of these, there's a few websites 592 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: out there that do it. But then I started to 593 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: get into it. Then you gotta put all your information 594 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't do this right now. So 595 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna look into it. Yeah, I am so 596 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: sick of buying clothes. I believe me, you know me, 597 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: I'd rather just be in sweats. I mean I even 598 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: have my Christmas pajamas on right now. Yeah, I have 599 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: my um my ug slippers and like my workout pants. 600 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: I still need to shower from my workout this morning. 601 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: Like this is this is lovely, um and Dorine. At 602 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: the moment, it looked like a brats doll, like a 603 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: precheen with the braids in the front. Oh my god, 604 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: that's so funny. Oh my gosh, she kind of did. 605 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: But I love that Renna once again walks in with 606 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, a wig, and the like is that, like, 607 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, she didn't come with her own hair. She 608 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: came with a wig again, not supporting your friend's business. 609 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: First it was tequila and now it's the wigs. But 610 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: I love that, Crystal. It has to break like Crystal, 611 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's a way, you know what we all 612 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: know what Renna's hair looks like. Yeah, she's pointing out 613 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: the obvious and then she's like, oh is that the extensions? 614 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: Like oh my gosh. And then I have to say 615 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: I really liked Sutton this episode, um her saying that 616 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: she when her and Erica were making the joke back 617 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: and forth about Sutton saying she was probably not going 618 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: to come and then Sutton. Then Erica says, Sutton rose 619 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: above my petty ass and she wants and then Sutton says, 620 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: I want Erica to beat this and it succeed and 621 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: I hope by showing up she was very sweet. I 622 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: I love Sutton. I have a very soft spot in 623 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: my heart for Sutton. Um. I thought it was really cute. Um. 624 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: And then and in a not shocking turn of events, uh, 625 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: Diana gets another celebrity FaceTime, this time from Elton John. 626 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: And so my question to you is, who is the 627 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: most famous uh FaceTime we've seen? Is it? It's gonna 628 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: be Elton John right on a housewife show? I don't know, 629 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I mean, did they become more famous 630 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: than Elton John? Was Lady Gaga on Beverly Hills one season? 631 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: Or did they just do that? So they did a 632 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: music video? And then um, we had um who was 633 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: at the Atlanta cardiv I can't remember, but I mean 634 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I think that's just you know, Diana's reminding. Uh. And 635 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: then Dered is Dreed is moving story along this episode. 636 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: She starts saying, Dered says Kathy called her and pretty 637 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: much admitted her behavior and isn't proud of it, and 638 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: then it's more about Kyle than anyone else. And then 639 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: everybody kind of agrees that they said Kathy is coming 640 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: to this event. Even Erica says, well, I never heard 641 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: she wasn't coming, and Garcella let me know she wasn't coming, 642 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: So once again things are not clear with Kathy. Um. 643 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: Then Renna says, did Kathy try to silence me? Is 644 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: it veiled threats? You know, I don't do well with those, 645 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: and she reads the text the no boy Now instead 646 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: of no boy now. Um says that she took ownership 647 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: and then went on Instagram Live and lied, Yeah, that 648 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: was flashback. That was like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, 649 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's where this is getting tricky. 650 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: And you can tell that it's turkey and confusing. It 651 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: really is. You can tell the production is involved in this, 652 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: and the problem is production was not involved in what 653 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: actually happened. So now they're trying to pick up the 654 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: pieces and it's the hardest thing ever for them to 655 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: do on any show, is if stuff happens off camera 656 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: and it becomes a big storyline. They're scrambling to try 657 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: to make sense of it. So it's either like, you know, 658 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: don't talk off camera, don't be together off camera, because 659 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: then these things won't happen. But that's always how when 660 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: you're staying in a house and I've read all these 661 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: things that people thought that production was lying and that 662 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: cameras are actually up all the time in the houses. Guys, 663 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: they are not. This isn't Celebrity Big Brother like, but 664 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: Ultimate Girls Trip. They are Ultimate Girls Trip there up twenty. 665 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: That's why you saw those like late night things in 666 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: the kitchen. Oh did you see October fourteen they are 667 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: going to air the Ultimate Girls Trip for the one 668 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: that I was on, Yeah, on Bravo. So so it 669 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: was on Peacocks. So now you guys, if you didn't 670 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: have Peacock and you didn't get to see it, you'll 671 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: be able to see Ultimate Girls Trip too on on 672 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: Bravo's I get to relive that one again. Well, you 673 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: were great. I mean, you're very lovable. I know, I mean, 674 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: but you know, as everybody says, I bought it, Uh, 675 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: you are, but I mean, you know, goodness for you, 676 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: and I'm having to recap you I'll probably be the 677 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: same because Okay, no, I give you full permission to 678 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: call me an asshole. I will. There's gonna there's gonna 679 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: be a lot of moments. Oh no, they're happy to 680 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: have you back. Um, and then Dared explains to the group, um, 681 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: how it comes out that it was about Billy Jean 682 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 1: and guys, for those of you all that trolled me, 683 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: I hate to say it. You were right, but I've 684 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: told you so, told just so Billy Jean. It's not 685 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: we're not allowed. As Crystal would say, well, he knows 686 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: that it's problematic to request Michael Jackson right now, but 687 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: what is she a millennial? Okay, I didn't know that 688 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: it was problematic. I mean, I know that there's been 689 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 1: stories about what went down, but he um, I mean, 690 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: it's kind it's just another one of those things like 691 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: it's we don't know the backstory Michael Jackson. But just 692 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: of course, Crystal Scotta just it's everything to just show that. 693 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: I just I just want that more compass every single 694 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: I just want to see Kathy dancing to Billy Jane. 695 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: That's what I want to say, is that is that 696 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: the Congo line Billy Jane it's not. But then uh, 697 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: Diana goes on and says that she paid them off 698 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: for two hundred dollars and that Kathy should know better 699 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: that you gotta pay people off. And you know, I 700 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: was like, this is this conversation is going down? How fast? 701 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: But then SHERI says when she got to the hat shop, 702 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: Kathy was shaking, she was so upset. And then girl 703 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: and that she was at the hat hat shop that 704 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: was about the teal and that's why she was shaking. Yes, 705 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: remember she was so mad about the But then why 706 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: why is that so shakable? Do you think? Ultimately? If 707 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: I were to guess, and let's just remember anything, I say, 708 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: here is my opinion. I don't think she's ever been 709 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: forced to do one of those trips where she has 710 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: to go and participate in all of the things. Housewife 711 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: trips are brutal, Yeah they are. They are brutal. So 712 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: and she wasn't even participating in them. But if you're 713 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: actually full and you are non stop, and I think, yeah, no, 714 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: I agree, But what what what do you think about 715 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: the comment when Renna said that she thinks that Cathy 716 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: is jealous of the Kardashians, Well, I mean, I think 717 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: that's really true. I need to be jenerous about well. 718 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, because Chris is as famous, is almost as 719 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: famous as her daughters. Do you feel like maybe? But 720 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: do you feel like Kathy that's her goal to be 721 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: super famous? Well, do you come on a reality television 722 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: show if you don't want to be famous? Well, she's 723 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: kind of not really on a reality television show. She 724 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: just doesn't even know where she's at. I think she's like, 725 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: what we're filming? Who did you know that? You don't 726 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: think that that's you think that's the all that around? No, see, 727 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. See, I don't know her. I met 728 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: her one time at Craig's with Nikki and they came 729 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 1: up and said high and that was That's my extent 730 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: of knowing her. But on the show, you know, I'm 731 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: just watching his viewer. I don't have any insight. She 732 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: just I feel like she just doesn't know where she's 733 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: at and how she got there. But obviously I don't 734 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: know everything. I mean, I think that people show what 735 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: they want to be seen on a show, But you know, you, 736 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's a person that goes on 737 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: a reality television show that isn't craving fame or money. Yeah, 738 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: I'm speaking from yeah actual experience of saying yes to 739 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: something that my family was like, absolutely not, do not 740 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: go on that show. Okay, So do you think that 741 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: the problem is that Kim was Paris's friend and Kim 742 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: got famous hanging out with her When Kim's sex sex 743 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: tape was released? Do you think that has something to 744 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: do with that? I don't think so. I think there's 745 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: just so much I personally, if I were to guess, 746 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,439 Speaker 1: I think that Ris car jin Chris car Jenner, there's 747 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: a good one. I'd like that Chris Jenner is just 748 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: like the mecca of managers and money and every single 749 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: one of her daughters has these huge businesses. And I 750 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: don't know if she's necessarily jealous, but I think that's 751 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: if it was coming from somebody other than Renna and 752 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: it was said with different inflection, it would be considered shade. Yeah, 753 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: but I think that we should call each other ted 754 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: right now, Tedra, Hey, ted Ra, it's the Tedra show. Um. 755 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: And then Dereed asks if it goes further than Kyle 756 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: and you see Renna say, I can't speak any further 757 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: than that. There was a barrage of I can't believe 758 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: I have to be around them. This is my show. 759 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: I will ruin Kyle's life. NBC is protecting me. Um. 760 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: And then that's when they do the flashback of Crystal 761 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: and she says, Um. They say, who do you believe? 762 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: And they actually break it to hear production ask her 763 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: and you know, we all know she saw the beginning 764 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: of the breakdown happen at the club. She's like, I 765 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: believe Kathy. I'm like, if you're Pinocchio, you chattered the camera, 766 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: like like, it's fine, protect your friends, do whatever. But 767 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: you know, not everybody can agree on these Housewives shows. 768 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: If everybody agreed, then we wouldn't have a show. But 769 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: I think there's a way to say to get if 770 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: if if you're trying to prove your point and protect 771 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 1: your person without one million percent calling somebody else a liar. 772 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe that they said, like actually said like 773 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: Bravo and NBC. I think it's the only way they 774 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: could get her. I think, yeah, it had to been 775 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: because you know, you didn't really like breaking the fourth 776 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: wall lot and talking about the network and that that 777 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: to me was a little shocking. Yeah, I think that's 778 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happens when things happen off camera, 779 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: and I think ultimately the extent of what happened is 780 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: why it's you know, we are where we are right now. 781 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: But how do you feel about um Cathy's apology to Kyle? Do? 782 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: Do you were you okay with that? Well? I think 783 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: when Kathy comes into the house, I mean she's obviously coming, 784 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: and you know she rips a flower off when she 785 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,240 Speaker 1: arrives that she's wearing the same piece shirt she woren't. 786 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: I almost died and fell off my chair when she 787 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: ripped the flower out of her flower pot. And then 788 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: she's like, brought it, come in, I come in peace 789 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: from the ponder rosa and cart rat. I'm like what 790 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: that was that? That That was bizarre? Yeah, and then she 791 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: left she did the same thing, Oh Kyle, I love 792 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,879 Speaker 1: these flowers. So yeah, I think it's it goes back 793 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: and you could see her personality actually shift, like when 794 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: you could tell like I don't necessarily have the ability 795 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: to shift myself if I'm annoyed or if I'm upset, 796 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: or if I'm gonna cry or I'm gonna yell. Yeah, 797 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I can't go back and 798 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: forth that quickly. So I think that's where we see 799 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: that she is aware of what she's doing. Um. But 800 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: I thought it was hilarious though. I'm like, oh my god, 801 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: this woman is so oblivious to what's going on. Oh 802 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: look at these flowers, Kyle, They're beautiful. I could see 803 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: her grabbing the whole plot taking it home. Yeah. I 804 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: mean I thought the apology originally when it was to 805 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: Kyle was I was happy with it. I was happy. 806 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: Kind it came in and it's like a tornado. But 807 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: even before it happened, I mean, you could see like 808 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: she she's taking ownership for saying, you know, awful things, um, 809 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: but then also still saying things that you know are 810 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna Probably would you say prior to the reunion filming, 811 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: because I can imagine the reunions probably horrible on both 812 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: of them, Kathy and Kyle. Did they come to a 813 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: place where the they were okay in the relationship. I 814 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: don't know, um, but I can't imagine because you know, 815 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: during the reunion with a couple of weeks ago, they 816 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: had to have brought up all that crop. And it's 817 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: also after seeing this, and I do think it's hard. 818 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it being family because of course you 819 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 1: want to protect your family and you want two, but 820 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: you also you know that you know there are things 821 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,800 Speaker 1: being talked about, and I think it's only going to 822 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: get worse as we see for the scenes for next week. Um, 823 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 1: but you start to already see Kathy start to say 824 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 1: things like, oh, I didn't like the jokes being made 825 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: about me with my clothes or you know those kind 826 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 1: of things. That was and that's why she was screaming 827 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 1: and seeing red at the club up and Kathleen mostly 828 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 1: sort of said what she said at the house has 829 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: two glasses of wine and altitude, and I felt like 830 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: those were excuses though, that's what I'm saying. So there's 831 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: parts of the apology to Kyle that I really like, 832 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: when and you can see Kyle's like breaking down, and 833 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: when she says that mom would be proud of you 834 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: and I'm proud of you, like Kyle needs to hear 835 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: those things. I mean, what I think we forget is 836 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: they don't both of their parents have passed. That's hard. 837 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: It's hard and their family and they their family. You 838 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: don't want to do this on National TV with your 839 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: family I definitely wouldn't. And I think what she says 840 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 1: is like, I mean, you we have to remember and 841 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 1: flash back to like the tumultuous years that they've had 842 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 1: in the past that we've we've seen play out on 843 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 1: the press, and so I think every time you forgive somebody, 844 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: whether it's your husband, your sister, your friend, whomever, it 845 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: it just is another Like yeah, no, I agree, it's 846 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: so it has to add up. But then Kyle tells 847 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: her that Rena is on the way over and that's 848 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: when she says, you know, Kathy, you've got to, you know, 849 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: really take ownership because they're trained assassins. Um I don't. Honestly, 850 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how I completely feel about Rena's conversation 851 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: with Kathy. I felt like she did more damaged in 852 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: that situation than good. Like I said earlier, I know 853 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: where she's coming from, but I felt like they just 854 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: got to a place where you know, they were hugging, 855 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: they were hugging it out, they were crying, and then 856 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 1: she came in. It was just Pope, Pope, Pope poke 857 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 1: and just made things. I mean, it made great TV, 858 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: but you know, it's hard for me after how Renn 859 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: has acted this entire season to look at Kathy and said, Kathy, 860 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to get away with us. Yeah, I 861 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: mean that does that to me? Was like if it 862 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: would have came from anybody else, anybody, it would mean 863 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: because to eat or anybody, people would probably like, I mean, 864 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: imagine if it came from Garcella or Sutton. Yeah, it wouldn't. 865 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: It would have been different. It would have been different. Yeah. 866 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: But I think what we have to remember going into this, 867 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 1: and this isn't me having Renna's back, It's just me 868 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: pointing it out. Renna didn't leave the club because she 869 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: had it out for Kathy. She left the club because 870 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: she wanted to protect Kathy from stranger seeing her having 871 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 1: meltdown on her sister in the club. So the meltdown 872 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: started in the club and the club that's when she 873 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: was saying changing at Kyle and and other people. That's 874 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: when Diana said she paid off the guy and Bobba. 875 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, all of that happened at the club. So 876 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: Renna wasn't. Remember this is off camera, so we can 877 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: say as much as you want, but Renna wasn't trying 878 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: to create net a scene moment. In the moment of 879 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: taking her out of the club. She's simply saying the 880 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: same way she took Erica out when Eric was I 881 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: and I get it, like I do see both sides. 882 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, when you've had so many bad moments all 883 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: season long, it just falls flat, it doesn't It falls like, oh, 884 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: you're just being mean again. I mean, because this part 885 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: was still pretty good. Like Kathy apologized to Renna and 886 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: says she's really sensitive because of her mom. Then Kathy says, 887 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: I don't have a temper, and then Renna says, well, 888 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: what would you call this? And Kathy says, losing my temper. 889 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: And then this is where I feel like it gets 890 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: a little tricky. Renna says, I think you may need help, 891 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: and Kathy said, I think you can be very unkind too. 892 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: And then Kathy says a friend of mine is has 893 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: cancer and it starts crying, and Renna says, I understand 894 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: the pain. And then you can just see them back 895 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: and forth, and you see two highly emotional people that 896 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: right now are keep bring their ship together, starting to 897 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: trigger one another. And then they flash back to Renna 898 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: getting you know, smashing the the glass on Kim and 899 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: doing all that. So then people in their minds are going, well, yeah, 900 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: Renna has done these things. But what we have to 901 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,280 Speaker 1: also keep in mind, yes, it's never okay to smash 902 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: a glass. Renna was being provoked in that moment with Kim, 903 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 1: I know, and that's the beauty of editing, the beauty 904 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 1: of editing, right, But Kathy was not being provoked by 905 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: the women. Nobody was coming after. Kathy says, it's just 906 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: freaking messy, and I think that you're gonna have people split. Yeah, 907 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: I mean, right, my pasty. Kathy kept it cool, and 908 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: that's something that I'm trying to learn to do. And 909 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: it's not in my nature. Like if I get mad, 910 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,959 Speaker 1: I blow up and I will scream, I will yell, 911 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: and then your message doesn't come across well and then 912 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 1: you just like the crazy asshole that is going after 913 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: Betty when you actually have a good message. But if 914 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: you do it like Cathy was very calm and very cool. 915 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: She just like gave the look like like make it, 916 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: make it stop, Kyle, Kyle um. But I mean, it 917 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: was a hard scene to watch all in all. There's 918 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: a lot of fan thoughts though, hold on, we missed 919 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: a scene. We did, Yeah, but we can just go 920 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: through quickly. A scene that wasn't hard to watch that 921 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,760 Speaker 1: I actually enjoyed watching was the scene UM between Sutton 922 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: and Erica where they had Pope eyes and iced tea. Okay, 923 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: I was dead that she had her fine china and 924 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 1: she bought popeyes, which, by the way, looked amazing. It's 925 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: so good. I've been wanting a biscuit ever since. Biscuits 926 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: are my favorite favorite. UM. Then would they showed the 927 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,439 Speaker 1: season finale which there's a Birkin party, um, and then 928 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 1: Renna starts telling Garcel and then this is where you 929 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: see that this is start. Now you see Kyle has 930 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: come to the place of protecting Kathy and her hurt, 931 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, like she's putting aside her hurt. In my opinion, 932 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm just by watching UM that Kyle is uncomfortable that 933 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 1: the girls are talking about it. And then they say 934 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: every details leaked to the press. And then Crystal says, 935 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: what is the motive? Who leaks it? Who leaks it? 936 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know, we gotta stay tuned. Do you 937 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: think they're going to tell us who's leaking it to 938 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: the press. I don't know, but I do know that 939 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 1: we saw Linnae at the pretty much party. Who Okay, 940 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean, I don't know if that's 941 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm just speculating when I saw her, because of course, yeah, 942 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: but we saw we saw a girl, Lenaie like, we 943 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: really get her a lot of shout out. Maybe we 944 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: need to have her on the pod. Um. Fan thoughts 945 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: are pretty much what we've already said. I feel like 946 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: we've talked this all through. UM. Yeah, I mean there, 947 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty much it's what we've We've pretty 948 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: much talked it through. UM. I think, well, some people 949 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 1: that they have a split. Some people are saying that 950 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: Cathy is very calculated, and then other people were, um, 951 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised at Cathy's owning her ship. Yeah, 952 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: and then there's the people saying, um, Kyle needs to 953 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: stand up for Kathy when Lisa is treating her family 954 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,720 Speaker 1: that way. I think, yes, one million percent. You want 955 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: to protect your family, but once you go onto a show, 956 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: there's only so much you can protect someone when other 957 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: people are involved. I was only so never want a 958 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 1: best friend or a family member to come onto the 959 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: show with me. I just wouldn't. It's just it would 960 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: be too hard to navigate. Yeah, because you can't. It's impossible. 961 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: You have you're not in charge of editing, you're not 962 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: in charge of what each other says to other women. 963 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: So there's only so much you can do. And you 964 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: definitely call out people more than you would do in 965 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: your everyday life. So if your sister cousin, our best 966 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 1: friend was doing something you had to call him that, 967 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: that would be hard. It could be a relationship killer. Yeah, 968 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,920 Speaker 1: and then you know, the next person says, does Kathy 969 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: have that much power? And b H team Rena. I mean, 970 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,760 Speaker 1: I think ultimately, if I was going to have somebody 971 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: mad at me, the easier person to have mad at 972 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: you is Na than Kathy, because Kathy comes with more 973 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: family that have Yeah, Cloud, but I mean, you know, 974 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,840 Speaker 1: a pretty powerful family. So yeah, I don't know, but 975 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: that is that. Um, I feel like we should wrap 976 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: for today and come back and we'll recap Salt Lake 977 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: City tomorrow. Okay, let's do it all right, Bye guys, Bye,