Speaker 1: Fifty percent year, I love you fifty percent to sit down.
Speaker 1: Didn't become the most prominent form your ass up early
Speaker 1: in the morning. But they told me it was. Y'all said,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I'm getting three people's short morning. Everybody is
Speaker 1: dj M v Angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are
Speaker 1: the breakfast club. We got some special guests in the
Speaker 1: building from the fake h you count University, Jamilla Lemu,
Speaker 1: good morning, Amber Phillips and Philip. I don't know what
Speaker 1: school you with, Damba. I went to a small women's
Speaker 1: college in Pittsburgh called Chatham. Chad, good morning. I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring Amber Jamiller. Yeah, like that. But you
Speaker 1: said you bring any black woman you want. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm bringing am. Absolutely controversy for Jamilla. They get up here,
Speaker 1: Jamilla and Amber. That was when Charlotte Mayne was pictured
Speaker 1: with Tommy Laren. They were some laughing emoji saying I
Speaker 1: don't see color, do you? Yeah? Jamilla, tell us about
Speaker 1: that struck a chord in you, because it struck a
Speaker 1: chord in me too when I first saw it. If
Speaker 1: George W. Bush gave us one good thing and his
Speaker 1: whole presidency, it was we don't negotiate with terrors. When
Speaker 1: you take somebody who has said things about our people
Speaker 1: that are so racist, that are so hateful, that are
Speaker 1: so lacking in value, we don't need to sit with
Speaker 1: somebody like that to understand why she feels the way
Speaker 1: she does or where she's coming from. And if we do,
Speaker 1: it's not on a platform where we're laughing and joking
Speaker 1: because the things that she says, she's not coming up
Speaker 1: with them on her own. She's not the architect, she's
Speaker 1: not the head of any of this. But she is
Speaker 1: making this very dangerous rhetoric normal and comfortable. Right. So
Speaker 1: she's a cute girl. She looks like any other little
Speaker 1: blond twenty something you can follow on Instagram. So her
Speaker 1: saying that gold further with young folks, particularly young white kids,
Speaker 1: that it does coming from an ad culter or Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: She's making it cool. She's making it sexy. When you
Speaker 1: give her a platform and joke around and palle around
Speaker 1: with her as if she's anybody else you have a
Speaker 1: disagreement with, that legitimizes her in ways that I don't
Speaker 1: think we should. And what we were all so upset
Speaker 1: with you about so much of what she said and
Speaker 1: people like her was about black men, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the idea that black men are inherently criminal,
Speaker 1: and so when black women got mad, it was like
Speaker 1: a Charlomagne and hell with him, blah blah. It's like
Speaker 1: it was a lot of that. But it's coming from
Speaker 1: a place of we're defending you. When somebody's comparing the
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement to the Clue Klux Klan, that's
Speaker 1: putting us in danger, but that's putting you in danger too.
Speaker 1: We're standing up for you. We're saying, look, we love
Speaker 1: our men. We don't want you all to be brutalized
Speaker 1: by the police. This is somebody who's made light of
Speaker 1: young men and women. Of course, we're particularly man being
Speaker 1: killed by the police and harassed by the police and
Speaker 1: stopped them for us. And when you joke around with
Speaker 1: that and say ha ha, we you know, we can
Speaker 1: keep key and make little Black Penis Matter jokes and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, it's hurtful to people who are literally
Speaker 1: putting their lives on the line. I'm a journalist, I'm
Speaker 1: a writer. She's an activist. They're people who are spending
Speaker 1: and they're not famous, and you don't see them on
Speaker 1: Seeing In or MSNBC. They're spending nights weeks in jail,
Speaker 1: they're losing their jobs, so they're not out there at all.
Speaker 1: The attempting that, well, why isn't there any woke the
Speaker 1: black and her span women. But they are out there.
Speaker 1: But that's not what I said, though. But I do
Speaker 1: feel like we should poke holes in her narrative any
Speaker 1: chance we get, because she does have the voice of
Speaker 1: young people. She's gonna be a voice for the conservative
Speaker 1: right for the next four I think she needs not
Speaker 1: in a joking manner, right, It's not. I'm a guy
Speaker 1: that can go from serious. I can go from righteous
Speaker 1: to ratchet real quick, right, I think so coming from
Speaker 1: my perspective. I'm also known as a high priest, is
Speaker 1: a Black Joy on our podcast called the Black Joy Mixtape.
Speaker 1: And there's a way to do both, right. I think
Speaker 1: there's this assumption around That's why I'm so thrilled to
Speaker 1: be here. There's assumption around black feminists that we're just
Speaker 1: sitting in our rooms reading Audrey Layd being so serious
Speaker 1: all the time. But we listen to you right like
Speaker 1: we were laughing. Just we've used are you done? Or
Speaker 1: are you finished? Several times in our own organizing spaces.
Speaker 1: That's why we talk about black Joy a lot, because
Speaker 1: there's room to joke with it, but there's also room
Speaker 1: to make sure that she doesn't leave your platform feeling
Speaker 1: more confident than before. She went back on her platforms
Speaker 1: and said all these terrible things about Trevor Noah, saying
Speaker 1: that he basically wasn't black enough. She made comments around you,
Speaker 1: and I think she clearly didn't learn anything from being here.
Speaker 1: But all I'm saying is the conversation that we had
Speaker 1: was me sitting there explaining to her why her rhetoric
Speaker 1: is dangerous to black people, especially black men, Like we
Speaker 1: had these It's not even the first of all I've
Speaker 1: had this conversation with her. I had this conversation with
Speaker 1: her back in February and a public platform when I
Speaker 1: was on her show on the Blaze Network, And then
Speaker 1: when I saw what she said on Trevor Noah, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: she still doesn't get it. So since she's not coming
Speaker 1: to the breakfast club, let's sit down and have a
Speaker 1: conversation so I can explain to her why her rhetoric
Speaker 1: get so dead. But what does it mean? To offer
Speaker 1: her friendship outside of holding her accountable. A big piece
Speaker 1: in the movement that we talk about is like we're family,
Speaker 1: were this, but in order to be family have to
Speaker 1: struggle together. And honestly, there are just people with whom
Speaker 1: you can't reason, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: it's the moderates that we might be able to have
Speaker 1: some success with because they didn't show up by the
Speaker 1: droves to protect us from Donald Trump. You know, a
Speaker 1: whole lot of white voters stay at home. And I
Speaker 1: don't think she can be reached in a fun, cool
Speaker 1: hip hop space. I don't think she can be reached
Speaker 1: by Trevor Noah, who's very conciliatory and all we have
Speaker 1: to do is listen to each other. But what your
Speaker 1: audience needs, I think it's for you all to just
Speaker 1: really understand the power that you all have in radio.
Speaker 1: People come here to talk to millennials, So what are
Speaker 1: you going to talk to millennials about? And for years, Charlomagne,
Speaker 1: I felt like, on the various shows that you've done,
Speaker 1: a lot of people I can't believe you like him.
Speaker 1: You know, he's problematic, he says. I'm like, he's complicated,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, but I've heard you so
Speaker 1: many times to be the voice of reason, particularly around
Speaker 1: issues of race. That's why I was so personally hurt
Speaker 1: that this was the person that you wanted to joke
Speaker 1: around with and is really based on hate and ignorance,
Speaker 1: and people that believe those things feel like she's their spokesperson.
Speaker 1: And if she doesn't have that, she doesn't have that
Speaker 1: platform anymore. She already has a platform. And that's why
Speaker 1: I made the comment I made, which was not meant
Speaker 1: to be offensive in any way, shape or form. Are
Speaker 1: discredit any black women high span of coming. I just
Speaker 1: feel like we need an online news network with news
Speaker 1: pundits that can combat that young voice that's going be
Speaker 1: coming from the conservative right for the next four years.
Speaker 1: And I think that we have that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It doesn't like we don't get boosted up
Speaker 1: in the way that she does because we don't represent
Speaker 1: what she does and in our community, we don't have
Speaker 1: the money and resources. But like, look at me, I
Speaker 1: started my career with the blog. I'm thirty two years old.
Speaker 1: I'm a media executive, right like I I'm in a
Speaker 1: position to hire other people to hire editors, to assign
Speaker 1: work and we have big plans for next year at
Speaker 1: Interactive one. You look at Crystals, right, you look at
Speaker 1: Francesca like you look at all these look at Amber.
Speaker 1: We are building platforms now again. We're not gonna get
Speaker 1: put on a blaze. We're not getting shows on MSNBC
Speaker 1: like we were a few years ago. So what we
Speaker 1: need now more than ever, is not to boaster somebody
Speaker 1: like her up by giving her access to your space,
Speaker 1: but to boaster somebody like Amber. Right, so right now,
Speaker 1: maybe it's like, look, once a week, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a fifteen minute Black Lives Matter. Just check in, We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to an activist. We're gonna talk to a
Speaker 1: journalist and just kind of talk about what's going on.
Speaker 1: You have you have. But I think it's like making
Speaker 1: it a concert, like this is the thing that we're
Speaker 1: calling it what it is, and we're saying every Thursday,
Speaker 1: this is your black lives you know whatever, check in,
Speaker 1: But trust black women like and I totally apol I
Speaker 1: didn't look at Crystal in that way, Francesca in that
Speaker 1: way like I'm thinking news pundit, but in the way
Speaker 1: they are the absolutely are. So how do we help
Speaker 1: them amplify their voice, you know, like allowing like when
Speaker 1: you have me on your MTV show, it was something
Speaker 1: terrible happened, somebody had gotten killed. I was kind of
Speaker 1: brought in to be the voice of read now, not
Speaker 1: to tell jokes, and I tell drunks and stuff too.
Speaker 1: I'm ratchet, I you know, like you know, like I'm
Speaker 1: breaking a girl and I'm not dressed up. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't even in my tents, But like I want
Speaker 1: you all, Like I think like everyone's saying this assumption
Speaker 1: that you know, we're all just so angry all the
Speaker 1: time and we're mad. It's like, yeah, we're angry in
Speaker 1: the way that everybody in this room is angry because
Speaker 1: there's things that are happening in the world that are
Speaker 1: bad and scary. But we're also regular girls, you know,
Speaker 1: and folks that listen to hip hop and listen to
Speaker 1: you all who deserve to be hurt. And I just
Speaker 1: think that, like I feel for Angelas sometimes, so I'm
Speaker 1: like just being the only woman in the room period.
Speaker 1: It's always hard. But with something like that, knowing that
Speaker 1: other black women were hurt and offended by something that
Speaker 1: you did quite innocently and honestly, I don't think you
Speaker 1: go out of your way to say things to hurt
Speaker 1: black women, to get outraged, but when you do it,
Speaker 1: it's just how you receive what we say. So that
Speaker 1: I appreciate you having us here to don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Jamilla Lemiue, Amber Phillips is the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Speaker 1: What y'all is TJ MV heybody name of Charlemagne the
Speaker 1: Gut and we just want to say happy holidays from
Speaker 1: all three of us, all y'all to Breakfast Club. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get everybody as DJ Envy angela Ye,
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. We have
Speaker 1: Jamilla Lemiue and Amber Phillips in the building. What do
Speaker 1: you think it is Dunky of to day when he
Speaker 1: get himself Dunky today. I appreciated it. I think there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, I was wrong, but
Speaker 1: but the butt was I was actually trying to empower us,
Speaker 1: like I was saying, let's create a platform with young
Speaker 1: black Hispanic women to be a voice like Tommy Long.
Speaker 1: I think I know what I'm saying. You said lifetime,
Speaker 1: but don't even bring her name. But think about how
Speaker 1: she became a voice. It's like Facebook. Do y'all realize
Speaker 1: how much power y'all have on social media? Even when
Speaker 1: y'all talk about like Tommy. Tommy used Facebook to get popping.
Speaker 1: Nobody watches the Blaze. She took her little clips, put
Speaker 1: them on Facebook. They got popping. Y'all make things trend
Speaker 1: in moments. I've been trending for two weeks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: never snuber one on Facebook. All the interviews I've done TV,
Speaker 1: I've done never until Black Women collectedly came together and
Speaker 1: said we're gonna try to get him about it the paint.
Speaker 1: Don't get that with in Secure on Sundays number one
Speaker 1: trending Scandal, how do you murder? Y'all can do that
Speaker 1: for you, turning into opportunities. Look at Lovey and I
Speaker 1: think you all had it back and forth about the
Speaker 1: word females. Right. She's a New York Times best selling author.
Speaker 1: Now you know she started a blog. She was funny.
Speaker 1: She's a social media strategist. She tweeted about Scandal. I
Speaker 1: feel like loves like half the reason Scandal blue all
Speaker 1: the way up. I heard her. I hit her book
Speaker 1: in my house too. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: My wife bought her book and I hit it. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I think you should have her on your show and
Speaker 1: talk to her. You know what I mean, because if
Speaker 1: you will talk to somebody like Tommy, talk to your sister,
Speaker 1: even when when you make us man, when we make
Speaker 1: you man, we need to be able to talk to
Speaker 1: each other because no matter how deep our differences are,
Speaker 1: we're family. She's not your family. But I just recognize
Speaker 1: y'all power, like y'all could trump her easily because of
Speaker 1: the power you'll have on social media. I feel like
Speaker 1: social media is the engine. We just have to create
Speaker 1: a car. I think we do have to create an
Speaker 1: online news network and say yes, Jamila is a news
Speaker 1: pointing now, Christian is a news pointing now. Our Francesca
Speaker 1: is the news pointing now. I really think we need that.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm working I run one of the sites.
Speaker 1: I am in charge of this news one dot com.
Speaker 1: We're building out a big news site like I'm on that.
Speaker 1: But I think it's really important that you understand where
Speaker 1: your family just going forward, and how you talk to
Speaker 1: female celebrities and how you respond when male celebrities come
Speaker 1: in here and say certain things about women. Understand that
Speaker 1: black women live and die for our men, literally absolutely,
Speaker 1: and we deserve that. In response, where did this narrative
Speaker 1: that black men treat white women better than black women
Speaker 1: come into play observation? I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: about you going on white girls with the girls that
Speaker 1: we would sweat out if you didn't do that. They
Speaker 1: like when that black man makes it, he gets too
Speaker 1: white women. That's been Kanye West of himself. I wasn't
Speaker 1: from Queens and I went to Hampton University, like there
Speaker 1: wasn't too many white women, you know, growing up, and
Speaker 1: my mom and papa listened like automatically, you're black, you're
Speaker 1: gonna stay with black. That's how I was raised, brought up.
Speaker 1: The old in the hood was the white girl, the
Speaker 1: wh white girl that wanted to hang around. This is
Speaker 1: a a male privilege moment my whole life. I never
Speaker 1: is there certain things Black women were here, That's what
Speaker 1: we've seen on TV. Women were here like you know
Speaker 1: what and that, and that's interesting. As far as treating us,
Speaker 1: you know, treating white women better, I think that there's
Speaker 1: a space at times that it's made to engage them
Speaker 1: and hear them out which is why somebody they're just
Speaker 1: white female privilege. They're particularly a good looking quote unquote
Speaker 1: white woman likes Tomie Has and so if she looks okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, she's not what beautiful is to me. And
Speaker 1: I certainly know that I'm not what beautiful and that's
Speaker 1: totally fine. But I know that she exists in the
Speaker 1: world where she is treated as a very pretty woman.
Speaker 1: If she were the three hundred pounds of bad acne,
Speaker 1: she probably would not have been introduced to you. She
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been introduced to Trevor Noah, and she wouldn't
Speaker 1: have blown up in the way that she wouldn't be
Speaker 1: the face of anything, right, But just being willing to
Speaker 1: have that conversation with her, like this isn't the first
Speaker 1: time that black women had really come for you on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And again, yes, she've had me on your show. I
Speaker 1: reached out to you about something in particular. I hope
Speaker 1: we get a second to talk about that about being
Speaker 1: on the show. You've been respectful to me. To be fair,
Speaker 1: I'm already an industry person, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm easier to talk to people perceiving me a little
Speaker 1: bit differently than they do folks like Ambert, but I
Speaker 1: hate Ambo. We did we have still talked too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the black Joyments say would love to still talk to
Speaker 1: Charlottagne Like this is such an opportunity. I do not
Speaker 1: take it lightly at all, But I appreciate this so
Speaker 1: much because again, your platform reaches the people who we
Speaker 1: want to activate. The folks who listen to this show
Speaker 1: are the people who I will help to register to
Speaker 1: vote or who I will help to turn out to
Speaker 1: say her name rally. And that's just such a critical point.
Speaker 1: And again it can be all done. People consume politics
Speaker 1: and culture at the same time. Right, Donald Trump will
Speaker 1: be on The Apprentice apparently doing politics and pop culture
Speaker 1: from the highest level, so why not us as well?
Speaker 1: I agree, don't go anywhere. Jamilla Lemieu, Amber Phillips is
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Happy holidays, wishing you and
Speaker 1: your family the very best this holiday season from all
Speaker 1: of us here at the Breakfast Club. To Breakfast Club
Speaker 1: and the morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne
Speaker 1: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Jamilla
Speaker 1: Lemieu and Amber Phillips in the building. Now, okay, so
Speaker 1: what is it that you wanted to bring up so
Speaker 1: we make sure we get yes. So I reached out
Speaker 1: to Charlottegne after Nick Cannon was on the show. Nick
Speaker 1: Cannon Yes, because of some of the things he said
Speaker 1: about planned parenthood and black genocide. And I know that
Speaker 1: you've had other on this show. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: call them out by name who also speak to that
Speaker 1: same way of thinking. And it's dangerous. So as somebody
Speaker 1: who he talks about planned parenthood being black genocide, particularly
Speaker 1: about abortion, think about all the stuff they deal with
Speaker 1: planned parenthood and all of that type of stuff. That's
Speaker 1: that's that type of stuff is to take our community
Speaker 1: and forget gentrification. It's real, it's real genocide. And it's
Speaker 1: been like that for years. This system is not built
Speaker 1: for us. I am of the belief that is incredibly
Speaker 1: important that black women have access to reproductive health care
Speaker 1: planned parenthood, which I do not work for them. I've
Speaker 1: done work with them, I've spoken some of their conferences,
Speaker 1: I've been on panels with them. They provide so many
Speaker 1: people in our community, men and women and gender nonconfirming
Speaker 1: people with access to STD and STI testing, to breast screening,
Speaker 1: birth control condoms, things that people need to have healthy
Speaker 1: sexual lives, and what we know is that the majority
Speaker 1: of adults of you know, childbearing age, are sexually active. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't expect everybody to share my views on abortion.
Speaker 1: I understand that that is a moral decision that each
Speaker 1: individual has a right to make. But when you take
Speaker 1: a huge platform, and you're a huge celebrity and you
Speaker 1: say something like Planned Parenthood has advocated for black genocide
Speaker 1: or represents black genocide, that's simply not true. And I
Speaker 1: don't like always deferring to the three percent number, but
Speaker 1: it don't Abortion only represents three percent of the business
Speaker 1: a Plant Parenthood. Most plan Parenthood locations do not provide abortions.
Speaker 1: I don't like saying that number because it also implies
Speaker 1: that there's something wrong with abortion. And people also need
Speaker 1: more access to abortion care, and they should have access
Speaker 1: to abortion care. And if we think that there's this
Speaker 1: myth that abortion is just birth control for irresponsible black
Speaker 1: women having a whole bunch of sets, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of things to a lot of people. But most of
Speaker 1: the people who who have abortions are already raising children.
Speaker 1: This is somebody making a decision that for economic reasons
Speaker 1: for personal reasons. They're not interested in bringing another child
Speaker 1: into the words women that are married and they're struggling
Speaker 1: financially and they decide, Okay, we don't want to have
Speaker 1: another child and disagree with Black women having abortions. Why
Speaker 1: I'm just messing with y'all. Job I say, I was like,
Speaker 1: but why? But also, in Nick Cannon saying that Plan
Speaker 1: Parenthood is supporting Black genocide, what that lands on the
Speaker 1: eras is that Black women are supporting the killing of
Speaker 1: our community. And we just know that's not true. Black
Speaker 1: women are making the best decisions they can with the
Speaker 1: resources they have. And actually, if black if Nick Cannon
Speaker 1: would like to lead a conversation on reproductive healthcare, we
Speaker 1: can talk about how there's grown men out here who
Speaker 1: still don't know how to put on a condom the
Speaker 1: right way. In fact, that is way more effective than
Speaker 1: you saying that we're killing our kids and our communions
Speaker 1: and the wrong size kindom. Damn well, you know, damn well,
Speaker 1: you know, do you you think kindoms are systemically uncomfortable for
Speaker 1: black men? We should do a condom demonstration right now
Speaker 1: because of that, you know, you know what balls me
Speaker 1: know about our community? I feel like when somebody in
Speaker 1: our community says something that most of us are, majority
Speaker 1: of us don't agree we attack. It's attacks. Have a
Speaker 1: problem with that because they might not know, they might
Speaker 1: not have the information, they not might not be educated.
Speaker 1: So I feel like when they attack, people are scared
Speaker 1: to see what they really feel and never know what
Speaker 1: they're feeling. You know it's coming from a personal place,
Speaker 1: because it's not that. And they said he agreed with
Speaker 1: stopping frisk a couple of crazy I mean, but I mean,
Speaker 1: when somebody tries to kill you and you have four
Speaker 1: bullet holes in your car and you know you're trying
Speaker 1: to go home to your family, you say things that
Speaker 1: make your emotional that and that's what it was. That's
Speaker 1: one of the things people used to say the breakfast
Speaker 1: clubs problematic. NVA agrees with stopping frisk. Charlemayne Field black
Speaker 1: women don't have no platforms. But also think about where
Speaker 1: those attacks are coming from, right, I think there are
Speaker 1: some folks who are definitely just popping off to be
Speaker 1: popping off. The attacks are coming from people who are
Speaker 1: also trying to save their own lives. Right There are
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are not here right now
Speaker 1: because of stopping frisk if we're using that example, right,
Speaker 1: we know Eric Garner is gone. We know that there
Speaker 1: accounts from I'm from Columbus, Ohio to mere Rice isn't
Speaker 1: here right now. So the reason why people are coming
Speaker 1: out and they're saying, hell, no, you're not going to
Speaker 1: say this is because we're scared, and like you're saying, like,
Speaker 1: there's there's two sides of this, right, you want to
Speaker 1: protect your family too, And there are people who are like,
Speaker 1: we're dealing with this at every side, right, and we
Speaker 1: don't have as bigger platforms as we need to to
Speaker 1: get the communications right on why our lives are important.
Speaker 1: So I would see the attacks as a conversation for
Speaker 1: you to ask, say more why people might have been
Speaker 1: stopped in frisk and had their own personal situations right
Speaker 1: that happened, because I mean, you talk to somebody that
Speaker 1: was on both sides, but right, I'm sure it's numerous times,
Speaker 1: and that's been I feel for y'all. You know. The
Speaker 1: sad thing about it is a lot of the information
Speaker 1: that you look up a line, a lot of it's
Speaker 1: not true, a lot of it's not accurate. So you
Speaker 1: think it's true, you think it's accurate. You think it's
Speaker 1: doing a good thing. And what happened was me being
Speaker 1: in the community doing these talks and doing shows. I
Speaker 1: would have women that would come up to me who
Speaker 1: had kids that have been killed from stopping frisk or
Speaker 1: teachers that said, my students are linked because of stopping people.
Speaker 1: They go to jail because they had a little weed
Speaker 1: on that. So that you opened up and makes you
Speaker 1: think about it and it changes your mind. And it
Speaker 1: had nothing to do at old they were own envy.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of these times conversations need
Speaker 1: to be It's so important to have the conversation with
Speaker 1: our folks, and to keep having these conversations with art folks.
Speaker 1: Like even back in the day when you had the
Speaker 1: debates with um Malcolm X and James Baldwin, like you
Speaker 1: brought more black people and more black intellectuals together so
Speaker 1: that we can get to the heart of this. That's
Speaker 1: worth having now more than ever. The call to have
Speaker 1: politicians on here, to have funds, you know, and to
Speaker 1: not I know, if I'm just saying, like in addition
Speaker 1: to that, when somebody calls you out for something that
Speaker 1: you said, that's not the time to lash out. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's not the time to get mad. It's to do
Speaker 1: what we're doing right now and have a dialogue about it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well we got more dialogue when we come back.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Jamilla Lemieux, Amber Phillips. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning, what's up y'all? Liss Angela ye you, Wishing
Speaker 1: you and your family the very best this holiday season
Speaker 1: from all of us here at the Breakfast Club. The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club wanting everybody is DJ m vy angela Ye,
Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. Usually
Speaker 1: we do the rumors here, but we're pushing the rumors
Speaker 1: back because we have these lovely ladies joining us from
Speaker 1: the fig h U Jamie La Lemieux and Amber Phillips. Now, Charlemagne,
Speaker 1: I get everybody to benefit of the conversation because I
Speaker 1: have any conversations change some people over the years, like
Speaker 1: I've like I can look at Lena Dunham. Lena Dunham
Speaker 1: got that lasting on social media and she immediately but
Speaker 1: she's around people. She understands how black women have been
Speaker 1: excluded from the feminist feminism rhetoric for so long, and
Speaker 1: she's trying to include them now, like I've seen it
Speaker 1: literally change people over the years. So I give everybody
Speaker 1: to benefit of the conversation if they don't change up
Speaker 1: to that. That's how I feel about Tommy anybody else,
Speaker 1: and that's how people feel about you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, I know there are certainly are
Speaker 1: people that am like, I'm not going on there. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to him, you know, which I think is
Speaker 1: silly because it's like, Okay, you disagree with them Hill.
Speaker 1: If he gives you acts to his platform, you use
Speaker 1: it to say what you gotta say. You go home.
Speaker 1: That does not mean that were you know, friends or
Speaker 1: that It's like, hell, you know, I wouldn't go on
Speaker 1: the Blaze because I don't think there's any value whether
Speaker 1: I win the argument or she talks circles around me.
Speaker 1: I just feel like nobody's going to really be educated
Speaker 1: by that. You don't go to the Blaze to watch
Speaker 1: it because you have an open heart, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not even it's it's to the right
Speaker 1: of Fox News, right, you know. I just think all
Speaker 1: that would happened is that I would get more complete circle.
Speaker 1: But like all I would get would be more death threats,
Speaker 1: more people harassing me, more scrutiny around what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned with convincing Black people of our own
Speaker 1: humanity than I am trying to convince white people of
Speaker 1: our human man convincing Black people of all power. We
Speaker 1: have power, but we cannot adequately use that power until,
Speaker 1: for example, our men really come to terms with the
Speaker 1: ways that black women suffer at the intersection of racism
Speaker 1: and sexism. How you all can perform that and be
Speaker 1: complicit in that. It's not just white men that are
Speaker 1: doing us harm. It's not just domestic violence that's doing
Speaker 1: us harm. It's how we're treated by people who we raise,
Speaker 1: who we nurture, who we date, who we love. That's
Speaker 1: not always fair and equal and jest, and so it
Speaker 1: can be very small. It could be calling us females
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It could be not listening to us. It
Speaker 1: could be more, you know, just simply appearing like you're
Speaker 1: more open to what tomy than you are to somebody
Speaker 1: like us. It could be berating little Mama until she
Speaker 1: cries because she's little Mama and she's a punchline. It's nobody.
Speaker 1: But then you work in media, so you have to
Speaker 1: think about optics. So yes, I can name a lot
Speaker 1: of really great interviews you've done since then and times
Speaker 1: that you talked to a black women and it was
Speaker 1: dope and it was great. But that's the thing that's
Speaker 1: in people's memory. So you have to work against So
Speaker 1: but that's how imagery works, So you have to work
Speaker 1: against that. You can't just be an age from like
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. I did it six years ago,
Speaker 1: No big deal, forgive me. It's like, forgive me because
Speaker 1: of my actions since then, right, you know, maybe even
Speaker 1: bringing her on, she's been and I just I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to a spot and we talk about this with
Speaker 1: my co host Jasmine Walker. Have to give her a
Speaker 1: shout out the King of the South about how we
Speaker 1: need to hold the line that if it's not um
Speaker 1: liberation just can't be for some black folks. Right, if
Speaker 1: we're not extending this to LGBTQ folks, queer trans people,
Speaker 1: um women, then it's anti black. That if we can incorporate,
Speaker 1: if we can't bring all of us to justice together,
Speaker 1: then it's not it's not what we're actually looking for,
Speaker 1: which is our collective liberation. Everybody got to make it
Speaker 1: to the other side with us. You know, fort you.
Speaker 1: I like dealing with women more men anyway. I'd rather
Speaker 1: have a bunch of strong women around meeting a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys. We appreciate you guys for coming up conversation
Speaker 1: so much. This was great and the platform is always open.
Speaker 1: Was to look up and Amber like a demo for Amber.
Speaker 1: I would look forward to seeing y'all again. I'm ready
Speaker 1: put me at the mentorship whatever you need. There's a
Speaker 1: bunch of black women behind me who are like, we're
Speaker 1: there and we're ready and we're on the front lines
Speaker 1: and they would love to talk to you. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm Amber Jay Phillips online. You can also find
Speaker 1: me on the Black Joy Mixtape dot com. We're Black
Speaker 1: Joy Mixtape on Twitter and Instagram, and we would love
Speaker 1: to hear from y'all and Jamilla. We appreciate you for
Speaker 1: joining us too, Baby d On Morning Everybody is DJ Envy,
Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomne the Guy. We are the breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: We got a special guests in the building beating single
Speaker 1: Yeah Morning suf Be. Now, we've had some opinions about
Speaker 1: each other over the past off so heard you on
Speaker 1: tax Podcasts yeah, and then you know, I was questioning
Speaker 1: you with your with your disrecords. Man, it sounded you
Speaker 1: sounded like a hater lately. Man, hater? Yeah? How you
Speaker 1: say that? Because I feel like, you know, you put
Speaker 1: out two disrecords, but then you was in the studio
Speaker 1: with me like like eight days prior to the first disrecord,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if anybody else did that, I think
Speaker 1: you'd be saying that was a sucker movie that I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you qualified even say I
Speaker 1: sound like a hater it because you don't know all
Speaker 1: the particulars. So how you how you qualified to say
Speaker 1: I'm a hater? Hate? On what? Why? I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you why? Why? Why? Why do you say I'm a hater?
Speaker 1: Because you know everything is that used to be me
Speaker 1: and I used to be in that position. And when
Speaker 1: did you ever hear me say that? On tax podcasts?
Speaker 1: Absolutely you said that you was like, yo, he can't
Speaker 1: rap better than me, which could be a fact that
Speaker 1: used to be me. People come up to me all
Speaker 1: the time and say when you was in that position,
Speaker 1: beings things was better. It wasn't like that, dude, do
Speaker 1: that sound that's that's a hater or me giving U
Speaker 1: some advice to somebody to move a little different. Did you?
Speaker 1: Did you? Did you not? Also hear me say I
Speaker 1: don't want you to make the same mistakes I did.
Speaker 1: So it is that me schooling somebody or sounding like
Speaker 1: a hater. That sounds like a no disrespect, But but
Speaker 1: then you disrespect them, especially because I mean just for
Speaker 1: me president when you say Meek not really like, oh,
Speaker 1: Meek not a real person. He never been in the street,
Speaker 1: that's cool, but like eight days prior he was in
Speaker 1: the studio with him. Yeah, that's why I said that.
Speaker 1: You're sitting back, Like I told people, don't let immediate
Speaker 1: social media make up your mind. You're gonna buy from
Speaker 1: what you're just seeing. You don't know what conversations transpired
Speaker 1: before that, what events transpired before that. And like I said,
Speaker 1: before I jump out the window for somebody who ain't
Speaker 1: gonna even walk out the door. You got to prove yourself, bro,
Speaker 1: That's what I meant by that. Like if you've gotten
Speaker 1: something and you come and get me, yo, we got
Speaker 1: to go do this. Hold up because I know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Got you ride for somebody? You don't
Speaker 1: think real like you, because it's bigger. It's bigger than
Speaker 1: it's bigger than that particular person. It's for the city.
Speaker 1: I'm for my city in a hole, so he's a
Speaker 1: part of that, a very important part of the city.
Speaker 1: And it's not about me hitting on me. I I've
Speaker 1: me totally. But when you do something now and it's
Speaker 1: like so like I said, but fo I jump all
Speaker 1: the way out and winning because I know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do one another level, Like it's two levels to
Speaker 1: just say, it ain't about music. It's about that and
Speaker 1: it's about so whatever. You ain't qualified to ask me
Speaker 1: that question. You ain't qualified to get the answer. Bro,
Speaker 1: let's rewant it. The game came up here and you
Speaker 1: know he did a disrecord going at Meek and then
Speaker 1: we heard a Meek record and we heard you on
Speaker 1: the record. Yea, so we thought that, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the world thought that you would jump in with
Speaker 1: Meek and starting to go at at games. So what happened?
Speaker 1: And why did you jump on that record for my city?
Speaker 1: But you wouldn't game? Cool? Yeah, because because it's music.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, this this think about it game and Meek.
Speaker 1: It's music ain't not ain't not gonna transpire from that.
Speaker 1: Days later you called him an apologize. No, that's bulls
Speaker 1: called whack on the phone that you called get him
Speaker 1: on the phone. My questions to them if you standing
Speaker 1: on what you're saying, like, I don't want to keep
Speaker 1: reiterating this because I think I clarified that once conversations
Speaker 1: was going back and I asking the brother, yo, is
Speaker 1: this real? Because you can get straightened out on a
Speaker 1: different level. So when you say stand down and all right,
Speaker 1: were you hand do that? But then when game comes
Speaker 1: back and it's like, yo, we gotta do this, No,
Speaker 1: we ain't gotta. You gotta handle that, bro. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're dealing with two people. You don't
Speaker 1: want Mac and you didn't want BEANIEC. So when I see, oh,
Speaker 1: this is something being see, I can go on to
Speaker 1: booth and slaughter them up right. With the records being said,
Speaker 1: we've seen you at the console and people assume that
Speaker 1: you were out helping them write raps. Did you gooset
Speaker 1: right any of those? A few of them? YEA for
Speaker 1: both Meek and o'melli. Yeah, yeah, I mean just just
Speaker 1: the whole situation seems shaker. I know you say, I'm
Speaker 1: not qualified to speak on it. I'm not. I'm just
Speaker 1: observing it. But it just seemed like, you know, loyalty
Speaker 1: with you lies with who's providing you opportunity at the time.
Speaker 1: Get the man provide me what what? Loyalty who he
Speaker 1: ain't provide me no opportunity. He ain't called me and
Speaker 1: asked me to do that. I did that. I walked
Speaker 1: into Meek wasn't even there. It was just Omelli in
Speaker 1: the studio. So I called you to the studio. No,
Speaker 1: me called you to the studio. No, it wasn't no call.
Speaker 1: Somebody told me, uh little talk me cousin. Yo, O'melli
Speaker 1: in the studio. They recording something I go on there
Speaker 1: or this is what y'all doing. I wasn't even gonna
Speaker 1: get on them. X y Z help you mind. No,
Speaker 1: you gotta do this, bro, say that. I went in
Speaker 1: a reference to track point and they just kept that
Speaker 1: part in there with my vocals. Two bars, that's all
Speaker 1: I said. I don't even think it was a whole.
Speaker 1: Two part made me even a bar, So I just
Speaker 1: kept my voice in it. But I ain't get no
Speaker 1: phone called Matt, come help, come ride, come do that.
Speaker 1: That ain't go down there in the studio. I went
Speaker 1: to the studio. What's the situation? But is it true
Speaker 1: that you said that you you just wanted to get
Speaker 1: next to him because he wasn't returning your call by
Speaker 1: the by the concert or something. It wasn't see my word.
Speaker 1: I might have said it wasn't about that, because that's
Speaker 1: what made me be like, that's kind of that's real snakes.
Speaker 1: If you wanted him ton no, it didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it, ain't had about it, and I'm about that
Speaker 1: if you if you listen to it to show that
Speaker 1: he had that people wanted him to do it was
Speaker 1: when I realized it why he didn't want to do
Speaker 1: it after the fact he wanted to show because game
Speaker 1: was on the same bill. Now which snakes? Which snakes?
Speaker 1: Knowing I didn't hear the ninety two parts, if I
Speaker 1: would have heard that, I would have said, all right,
Speaker 1: you handle that. You know this dude just picked me
Speaker 1: up in a record, shout on me out crazy. You
Speaker 1: knew that. You know I didn't hear that, So you
Speaker 1: didn't hear the record at all before at all? Okay,
Speaker 1: So if I tell you, if I tell you, sh
Speaker 1: mayn't take this rob with me and did we wind
Speaker 1: up going somewhere and then this happened? Liken, you walk
Speaker 1: me in. Why you got? You? Got you? Okay? So
Speaker 1: with snake? Is that that answer that that snake is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right? Now what happens? Because, like you said, there's
Speaker 1: Beanie Seagull and then there's Matt. Right, we thought it
Speaker 1: was Beanie Seagull. We thought it was rapped. Then you
Speaker 1: get to a performance and somebody steals you. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: now now where is it now? Because it's no longer
Speaker 1: Hey man, listen, Now, I'm a rap fan. I'm qualified
Speaker 1: to answer this one. As a rap fan. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see violence between your brothers, but I also
Speaker 1: want to see Beanie Seagull be the Beanie Seagull that
Speaker 1: we've heard he's been all these years, but you but
Speaker 1: then on the other side of me, like we all
Speaker 1: grown now, I don't want to see that. So where
Speaker 1: does it stand? I got my moments, I got my
Speaker 1: moments if I was going to do it Matt wanted
Speaker 1: to do. You weren't hearing on records from me? Come on,
Speaker 1: Sean man, you know me. You didn't see me a
Speaker 1: hole in the walls absolutely unexpectedly. That's why I wish
Speaker 1: shocked that somebody would test you in Philly. I mean,
Speaker 1: it can't happen to anybody, anybody Philly. But I was
Speaker 1: surprised you by yourself Philly. Yeah, because I've seen you
Speaker 1: when when back in the day to Rockefeller Beef and
Speaker 1: the Rockefeller mixtapes. If you were buy yourself, you had
Speaker 1: a mac on you, yeah, or you had thirty So
Speaker 1: what I had say property with me. I was surprised
Speaker 1: that you would buy yourself knowing that you were going
Speaker 1: there and knowing that he was there, knowing what it was.
Speaker 1: He's harmless though me armless, armless, armless boy about to
Speaker 1: do that that you got into it with. He didn't
Speaker 1: see see you got. You're only seeing what you saw.
Speaker 1: You didn't see what transpired from there. I wanted by myself.
Speaker 1: I was told my brows, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: He file for two, but let him teller, he's six four.
Speaker 1: It was trashed by the little fire for so the
Speaker 1: embarrassment set in. You had every opportunity to do what
Speaker 1: you what you wanted to do in my face, that's
Speaker 1: the only way you can get that off on my
Speaker 1: back turn can't get that off in my face. And
Speaker 1: this situation sticky because it's close. It's like it ain't
Speaker 1: like it was one of meet bons. This is family.
Speaker 1: Hi the way, choose the word it or what do
Speaker 1: you want to say? This is? It's too close man?
Speaker 1: All right, well we got more with Beanie Seager when
Speaker 1: we come back. Don't go anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning, Hey, Charlomagne the God here, and I just
Speaker 1: want to wish a Mary Christmas to all my credit
Speaker 1: cards cameras out there this this season, to find you
Speaker 1: a scamera friend so you can save some money in
Speaker 1: any major department store in America. The breakfas his club,
Speaker 1: right and morning. Everybody is dj M v Angela. Ye,
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the God. We are the Breakfast Club. Now. Beanie
Speaker 1: seagulls in the build and he's clearing up some things.
Speaker 1: He's clearing up his beef with Meek Mill. Also the
Speaker 1: game now, Charlemagne. So what you hate about the rappers
Speaker 1: is the feminization of the rappers. Do you I let
Speaker 1: people do that? Man? It's not my boy, it ain't.
Speaker 1: I gotta you gotta say which politically, Cray, I just
Speaker 1: don't I don't. I don't. I don't care, like, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, that's sad that Yeah, two daughters. Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1: The thing with it is one thing out of this
Speaker 1: whole situation that I appreciate is the fact that bars
Speaker 1: are coming back. I told you that when you set
Speaker 1: the record, I was like, this is what the game
Speaker 1: has been missing, and not just with you with Meek
Speaker 1: Meek spit of freestyle or flex that was dope game spitting, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what the game has been missing bars and people
Speaker 1: like really putting through it into their lyrics, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that that made me say,
Speaker 1: I'm glad this happened because I haven't heard from Beanie
Speaker 1: the way that I wanted to hear from Beanie in years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you said you wasn't gonna do no dis records though,
Speaker 1: now you said, yeah, that was that was before I
Speaker 1: heard the phone Master flex. Oh okay, yeah, you makes
Speaker 1: sense when you put it all together. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but what did he say on the flex thing that
Speaker 1: really pitched you off? Because I didn't catch it, Shott,
Speaker 1: I didn't stopped playing games. Drake threw one at Mathie
Speaker 1: threw one that game wasn't stop playing, man. So when
Speaker 1: somebody throws one that you you come with three hard ones?
Speaker 1: You you you're gonna mean that because it was like
Speaker 1: a situation that happened at hand. I got every right
Speaker 1: to say you know what and do me and you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to stand that. Man. Whoever, do
Speaker 1: you feel like you bought this on yourself though? By
Speaker 1: being studio with me? If you if you knew me,
Speaker 1: if you say Meek, wasn't it real to this whole time?
Speaker 1: You know he was? It don't matter. No, ain't know
Speaker 1: half of these motherfuckers in the music business same real,
Speaker 1: So why be around him? So it ain't about me?
Speaker 1: Because he's from Philadelphia. That's why he represents Philadelphia. He's
Speaker 1: a voice for Philly right now. That's why. That's why
Speaker 1: I being arounding. That's why he like a target because
Speaker 1: it's a young flying it with the bad ship. Regardless
Speaker 1: if he real, if it's facade, Who cares if I
Speaker 1: go in on him all the tax podcast and keep
Speaker 1: repeating that he's not real If it don't because because
Speaker 1: because the incidents that occurred, that's why a chain of events.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for that, then I want to did that.
Speaker 1: He never spoke to him after that. He never had
Speaker 1: a conversation after the whole game. And because it seems
Speaker 1: like you're all from Philing. Yeah, after after the game thing,
Speaker 1: we had a conversation. And when that conversation transpired, he said,
Speaker 1: some boys over the photo to Yeah, it was over
Speaker 1: the plone. So now you gotta stand on that. If
Speaker 1: I felt it distain in my heart towards young and
Speaker 1: like I did, it wouldn't be no music. Man, understand,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be no music. But you know, Philly has
Speaker 1: always had the reputation that y'all can't get along. So
Speaker 1: it's like, right now, it's you're just proving that point
Speaker 1: because you got a skin over here talking about you
Speaker 1: ain't doing this. It just seemed like none of y'all
Speaker 1: can get along. Let's talk about New York. Don't people
Speaker 1: go to beef in New York soon? Absolutely Troy having
Speaker 1: this one, So can New York get along? No, that's
Speaker 1: all right, So don't just make it a focal. Don't
Speaker 1: just make it a destroyed New York ultimate leader. All right.
Speaker 1: Well that's y'all, So what do you hope to gain
Speaker 1: from the situation not gain. I guess what do you
Speaker 1: hope for this to accomplish? Would it accomplished? I don't
Speaker 1: have no artior mortal come in you the og. So
Speaker 1: if you're OG and you're talking to the younger, do
Speaker 1: you hope for me to get the game from knowledge
Speaker 1: from this or what? Absolutely that's been our conversations prior
Speaker 1: to all us through all Its just giving a knowledge
Speaker 1: of make the mistakes out there. But I do feel
Speaker 1: like he's a punching bag right now. He's yeah, well
Speaker 1: like I don't know why they would think that, but
Speaker 1: they think he's an easy target because I see when
Speaker 1: people go date. So many people have gone at me
Speaker 1: trying to knock off his character from where, from everywhere,
Speaker 1: anywhere you got to well you got well, you got
Speaker 1: to look at it, the raps you here's who you
Speaker 1: is when you get off the steps. See, I come
Speaker 1: from an era when Nick checked your background. I think
Speaker 1: he brought that upon himself. If me gets destroyed or
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a career in a couple of years,
Speaker 1: that hurts the city of Philly. No, it don't, because
Speaker 1: you got a lot of dudes in Philly happen right
Speaker 1: and it just be a door open for somebody else
Speaker 1: to come from Philly. But you don't think me. After while,
Speaker 1: it starts to look like like your emo, like when
Speaker 1: something don't go beings way means gets upset, like what
Speaker 1: keep harping on that it was with Hole or like
Speaker 1: now with me? It's personal, Dog, that's that was personal.
Speaker 1: I explained that already. It ain't that about. It didn't
Speaker 1: go on, mate, that was personal something between me and
Speaker 1: my brother Lie familiar family. Well you think things are
Speaker 1: ever truly to say once? Once you do that, because
Speaker 1: people look at you like, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can trust me? How you can't trust because it seems
Speaker 1: like you just flipped I'm a man about mine like
Speaker 1: it's hard to trust somebody. I said, you know, I
Speaker 1: know you'll keep going back to this, But it's true.
Speaker 1: He was in the studio of me eight days prior that.
Speaker 1: We did not just answer that, but you knew you wasn't.
Speaker 1: You said he wasn't. You didn't think he was real
Speaker 1: when he was in the studio with him, all right,
Speaker 1: put it like this, it's Kanye and street Nick absolutely nothing. Huh.
Speaker 1: But when Kanye put that phone call in, you know
Speaker 1: the stories who was dead and he ain't a street nick,
Speaker 1: but he part of part of that finger of ours.
Speaker 1: So I took penitentiary chances. He put the call and
Speaker 1: I was dead, strapped truth to nail because he a
Speaker 1: part of our family. You understand what I'm saying. People don't, don't.
Speaker 1: You know how you don't understand because you know why
Speaker 1: because you not from that cloth. That's cool. I don't
Speaker 1: get you not, that's why you don't understand that. That's
Speaker 1: like saying somebody's not a street. They're saying somebody's not
Speaker 1: real and a sucker. That's a difference. There's to being
Speaker 1: a street and real Kanye, when you portray yourself who
Speaker 1: when you portray yourself in a shirt and light, like
Speaker 1: you gonna go all the way right there, and you don't.
Speaker 1: I got to draw back. So understand that. Like it
Speaker 1: don't matter if a person where he could be a square,
Speaker 1: But that's my man, that square, that's my man. And
Speaker 1: we play video games because that's what he do. And
Speaker 1: I want to come and I chill with him. If
Speaker 1: he got a problem here, stone cold square, it ain't
Speaker 1: you Phil, You I got that. That's what men do.
Speaker 1: Now I'm just the type of phone like somebody I
Speaker 1: don't pretend to that's just bull. You're a character, that's why.
Speaker 1: That's the truth though, your character. He's a time. Life's
Speaker 1: too short to be wasting your time with suckers. All
Speaker 1: people you think it suckers. So why I'm here? I
Speaker 1: think you're a sucker, So I should be out right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, ask me personally,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, didn't have a conversation with a sucker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're sitting here and you're badged a little girl, little
Speaker 1: mama to she cried, that's what you do and cowards
Speaker 1: me and you're talking to each other. Now, I tell
Speaker 1: you that I think. I think you're a hypocrite. Anything
Speaker 1: what you want, and I think you'd be coming off
Speaker 1: as a hater sometimes moaning. Everybody is dj mvy Angela Yee,
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the guy we are the breakfast club. Beanie Siegel
Speaker 1: is in the building. Now, what's next for you? Musically?
Speaker 1: That's the good thing that's going to come out of
Speaker 1: head and and that's what I told you. It's good
Speaker 1: because we haven't heard Beanie Seagull in a while and
Speaker 1: a lot of these kids don't know who Beanie Seagull is. Now,
Speaker 1: how is it recorded? With one love? It's hard? Is
Speaker 1: it true? You gotta stop in between songs, in between
Speaker 1: bars and song twisted because we can tell you even
Speaker 1: with your voice. You know your voice is not the same.
Speaker 1: Is that bad you at all? Because it's not that same? No,
Speaker 1: that's why you hand on music from me, because I
Speaker 1: couldn't embrace that. I'm used to going and boofing, going
Speaker 1: for four or five minutes straight no breath, and had
Speaker 1: a lot of weight on me at the time. It
Speaker 1: was rolling like it's my voice. I couldn't hear him
Speaker 1: meause I'm used to me sounding a certain where I
Speaker 1: couldn't hear man. Then, you know, I just had to
Speaker 1: embrace it, like this is what it is. It's it's
Speaker 1: hide sound. Because even now when I hear you spit,
Speaker 1: I have to get over the voice because it ain't
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, and you you're listening to the balls.
Speaker 1: It's the same balls, but not the same voice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The kinds of the music ain't gonna never change. Like
Speaker 1: I've been through too much, and the average person I
Speaker 1: have been through too much. That's the other thing, too,
Speaker 1: you named about four elements you were suffering from when
Speaker 1: you was on tax podcast. Did that not make you
Speaker 1: want to say, you know what, maybe I need to
Speaker 1: calm down on NA on the screet thing. Nah, not
Speaker 1: at all, because you wouldn't say that like you saying
Speaker 1: that because the incident that occurred. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna buy any right mind, gonna stand straight in
Speaker 1: front of me and square off. You're gonna catch an
Speaker 1: ell I do this. I mean even when something up,
Speaker 1: you don't think you'll ever grow out of the screet
Speaker 1: thing because I think you heard it on a song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: married time I get out, they won't push. I think
Speaker 1: we need to make a distinction between real and screen.
Speaker 1: I think that's sending the wrong message to the kids.
Speaker 1: I think it's a difference between being criminal and being real,
Speaker 1: because you could be somebody like Kanye who's a real
Speaker 1: individual to himself. You know what he does. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: just this is where I come from. This just me,
Speaker 1: that's me. I see you. You wouldn't rock with me.
Speaker 1: And if I was to be something else, why not.
Speaker 1: I like growth. ID like to see people involved. I
Speaker 1: think it's whack when you stay in the same place
Speaker 1: and look stagnated. I think after while you look corny.
Speaker 1: But you've seen over the week and you see the
Speaker 1: picture that was posted was a jar rule Dmax a hole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now what do you think about that? Because you've been
Speaker 1: around and seen all of this that's going down. That
Speaker 1: was good. Same thing when you see me and Jay
Speaker 1: on b side, it's good. Have y'all talked since? Yeah,
Speaker 1: something gonna come out of that. Uh So it'd be
Speaker 1: good for Dyn them just did a bad boy. So
Speaker 1: like a fellow you, Hanswald, you've been making comments about
Speaker 1: the young rappers too. You don't think you should just
Speaker 1: let kids be kids because somebody let you be a
Speaker 1: kid once. Nah, somebody needs to talk to the kids.
Speaker 1: Somebody need to get them talk about it. I don't
Speaker 1: raise the dreads that women like men when when men
Speaker 1: started doing that, you had, you had people in the
Speaker 1: back of the day like George Clinton. Different is good,
Speaker 1: it's good, But when you get to the point whereas
Speaker 1: though it's blatant, I shouldn't have to explain to my
Speaker 1: son why two men kissing on TV. I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to explain to my son why people wear men is
Speaker 1: wearing high You want to would you want to explain
Speaker 1: that to your son? Nah? And I don't want to
Speaker 1: explain to my son. Why dudes on Instagram? What guns? Either?
Speaker 1: We saw you on the ground with two guns up,
Speaker 1: like criminalization, criminalization is neither one is good? How that's criminalization?
Speaker 1: There was props. I mean you talk about the kids clothes.
Speaker 1: You remember you did the state property clothing line. I
Speaker 1: remember the interview you did when you said they got
Speaker 1: the little compartments to hide your guns and hide your
Speaker 1: dope like it could have that that that looks crazy?
Speaker 1: And when you think, why Charlotte man shop? What's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Man? So? What is it? Is
Speaker 1: a new project coming out? And are you staying independent
Speaker 1: on you signed? What what's the what's the future for
Speaker 1: Beanie se Man? I might do it double she they
Speaker 1: just music coming out. I'm gonna get back to the
Speaker 1: other music though. I just had the lord click on
Speaker 1: that side just in case hip hop? So what happens
Speaker 1: if me cause you and be like, yo, Mac, what's up?
Speaker 1: Let's squatch this put the phone calling, let's sit down
Speaker 1: and talk about It's just that simple. It's that easy.
Speaker 1: But then but you in your mind. You still think
Speaker 1: he's not real, he's a sucker. You just keep saying
Speaker 1: that you. I'm not gonna let you put words on
Speaker 1: my mouth. You keep you, regardless of you. I'm not
Speaker 1: putting one your mother. You said that, regardless you keep
Speaker 1: why you keep harping on that. We answer that you like,
Speaker 1: So don't talk out to that because you want you,
Speaker 1: you want if you're saying you want unity, to stop
Speaker 1: keep doing that, man, don't stop playing. It's confusing to
Speaker 1: you because you don't know the severity of the situation.
Speaker 1: You doing two and a half hour record. You don't
Speaker 1: know the severity of the situation. Man. But it can't
Speaker 1: be that's too close to home. It's too close song.
Speaker 1: We'll see, Like I said, I don't know. I might
Speaker 1: not pick that call up, but we'll see, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: that'd be the better move. That'd be the smartest move
Speaker 1: for me. I don't want to walk a track and
Speaker 1: somebody present the rest of my life or I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that, So that'd be what Beanie Sig
Speaker 1: should do. Like I said, it got what Matt want
Speaker 1: to do, but what Banie c you want to do?
Speaker 1: It's just that. And I was curious did you speak
Speaker 1: to Game or Drake like one of those things just
Speaker 1: like his a verse or not hasn't been that way? Mean,
Speaker 1: the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. Man, that's being a sucker. I
Speaker 1: couldn't do that. I gotta see how that play out. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't take a versim drink or a versi
Speaker 1: from Game going at me. Nah, that's got to be
Speaker 1: totally corny and that's some bullshit all and that might
Speaker 1: be good for me. I don't know about game, I mean,
Speaker 1: but Drake, the biggest thing, what do you think a
Speaker 1: game in the stuff? It don't matter what put it?
Speaker 1: Like this, I know who who in LA, I know
Speaker 1: who anybody can be, anybody behind music. I know my
Speaker 1: conversation with Gaining why it would stand down? That's it. Well,
Speaker 1: I know I'm not qualified to speak on this, but
Speaker 1: you can understand how some people don't think what you're
Speaker 1: doing is all the way solid. You might not think that,
Speaker 1: but you're not qualified. Dog, you're a rating no personality. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't come from my world. You don't come from
Speaker 1: you wouldn't understand my world. You don't come from my world.
Speaker 1: You don't know nothing about that, man, Nah, I don't yeah,
Speaker 1: running come off, man, I don't want to stop running
Speaker 1: ship and it's dangerous. It's dangerous, Dub. You're talking about
Speaker 1: somebody who went to Wall Police. It's dangerous. Attempting murders
Speaker 1: and the height of my career. It's dangerous. You don't
Speaker 1: know nothing about that. Man. We should have playing. Your
Speaker 1: job is to play games. Play with something safe, man,
Speaker 1: don't play with me, all right, Penny single. It's the
Speaker 1: Breakfast clubb good morning, good morning, tutute off the red nose,
Speaker 1: rid of every side. If you ever saw it, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't even say Breakfast Club pitches. Sholo man say the game.
Speaker 1: Don't get out of the shape. Man. You are the
Speaker 1: Donkey today. Just not discriminate. I might not have the
Speaker 1: song of today, but I got to donkey that. If
Speaker 1: you ever feel I need to be a Donkey man.
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club bitches they just don't give Today Today. Yes,
Speaker 1: Dunkey Today goes to Cat Williams cat pack all day.
Speaker 1: Cat is entering red territory when it comes to receiving
Speaker 1: Donkey today. He's a repeat offender. I didn't think anybody
Speaker 1: could ever receive donkey to day as much as Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: But Cat Wims is on his heels. Now if you
Speaker 1: haven't heard, a video surfaced online and a forty two
Speaker 1: year old grown ass Cat Wims and a physical altercation
Speaker 1: with a little boy. Now they say in seventh grade. Okay,
Speaker 1: when I say a little boy, I'm thinking maybe eighth
Speaker 1: grade at the most tenth. All right, now, first of all,
Speaker 1: why was Cat Williams hanging out at what appears to
Speaker 1: be a school? Why? No security, no manager, no assistant.
Speaker 1: You just at the school posted for what. You're not
Speaker 1: picking up new kids, You're not doing community service, So
Speaker 1: what in the hell when you posted up at a
Speaker 1: grade school for you just randomly at recess? That's number one? Okay,
Speaker 1: n number two, Cat Williams sucker punch that little boy
Speaker 1: and couldn't even knock him out. Now, I know y'all
Speaker 1: saying he had no business punching out boy, and I
Speaker 1: would have to say, depending on the circumstances in this case,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was justified. But I can understand
Speaker 1: the little boy was all in this grill, all in
Speaker 1: this personal space. Cat Williams could have just told the
Speaker 1: boy back up. Off me. But like I always say,
Speaker 1: you never know how someone's gonna react when you do
Speaker 1: something to them. Little boy was in Cat's face. Some
Speaker 1: of us would have chose to tell a little boy
Speaker 1: back up, give me fifty feet. Some of us would
Speaker 1: have pushed a little boy back some of us some
Speaker 1: of us may have just walked away. Cat Williams chose
Speaker 1: to throw a punch. Now, I can't say I agree
Speaker 1: or even maybe disagree with him in this situation. I'm
Speaker 1: just mad that a forty two year old man can't
Speaker 1: knock out a child. All right, Cat Williams at a
Speaker 1: close range sucker punch hit him flush on the jaw,
Speaker 1: and that little boy wasn't even tickled. That little boy
Speaker 1: wasn't moved at all. In fact, the little boy proceeded
Speaker 1: the rustle Cat Williams to the ground. Cat Williams was
Speaker 1: man handled by a kid, all right. He got a
Speaker 1: little boy, handled the young and put Kat Willams in
Speaker 1: the crispin water crippler cross face. And then Kat proceeded
Speaker 1: to give us some great ad libs. Can we hear
Speaker 1: a little a little tussle? Plu? You know what you need?
Speaker 1: That little girl look no biby tell me that first.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Back about me a little boy, I
Speaker 1: got to hit him like that comt They didn't do
Speaker 1: that to us. Sorry, that's a community. I let a
Speaker 1: little boys do that to us, celebrity. He sins high
Speaker 1: that tussed is soul music because Kat Williams punched a
Speaker 1: little boy. But he quickly realized he was in over
Speaker 1: his head. He went from get your dumb ass out
Speaker 1: of my face. The really little boy really, you know
Speaker 1: the type started fighting. When they started getting their ass washed,
Speaker 1: it turns to chill out. Stop, you're going too far.
Speaker 1: I can't be mad at the little boy for defending himself.
Speaker 1: That's what he's supposed to do to a forty two
Speaker 1: year old grown man. Okay, grown man, put their hands
Speaker 1: on you, and they're not your daddy. Do what this
Speaker 1: young man did. Put him in the bob backling cross face,
Speaker 1: chicken wing or maybe it was a million dollar dream.
Speaker 1: Whatever the move was, Kat Williams tapped out. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. When you get beat up by a
Speaker 1: little boy, and you got a little boy at home,
Speaker 1: your kids won't respect you anymore. How As a parent,
Speaker 1: you gotta threaten your kids, especially in your little boys
Speaker 1: and telling them I bought you into this world and
Speaker 1: I would take you out. But when they realized that
Speaker 1: you really can't take them out, because you can't even
Speaker 1: take out this little seventh grader that's his age and
Speaker 1: his size that you sucker punched. Jesus christ Man got
Speaker 1: here a little bit of the tussle again, just a
Speaker 1: little bit, just a little bit broke. They can't do
Speaker 1: that to a Maybe this was a sketch, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what pissed me off. But first of all,
Speaker 1: finances don't mean nothing when it comes to fish fighting. Okay,
Speaker 1: you think because I'm broke, I won't put the beats
Speaker 1: on you and how you financially flexing on the seventh grader.
Speaker 1: That little boy isn't Saint wester Blue I view, why
Speaker 1: would he be balling in the seventh grade. For you
Speaker 1: to even try to justify that ass whipping with money
Speaker 1: shows how much of a sucker you are. Cat and
Speaker 1: you're asked the wrong question. The question shouldn't be y'all
Speaker 1: let a little broke boy jump on a celebrity like that.
Speaker 1: You should have been asking yourself, why am I a
Speaker 1: rich celebrity risking my freedom? And my finances because you're
Speaker 1: gonna get sued. Why am I risking my freedom and
Speaker 1: my finances fighting a little boy? This Cat Williams story
Speaker 1: is not going to end well. People and want to
Speaker 1: get into all you idiots who love to defend Cat Williams.
Speaker 1: Donkey ass. Please remember it's not the media, it's not
Speaker 1: the illuminatty. This is nobody's fault, but Kat Williams. Please
Speaker 1: give Kat pack all day the biggest heat Hall Police.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you when Kat Women's asked about this, he's
Speaker 1: gonna say, y'all know, I couldn't beat up no little boy,
Speaker 1: even though he swung on him first. Yea, he definitely couldn't,
Speaker 1: he might say. After he swung on him, he realized
Speaker 1: he was a little boy, so he fell back. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: Kat No, Yeah, that that boy had him choked up crazy.
Speaker 1: I know his parents are very proud of him. Whoever,
Speaker 1: this little boy's parents are cat women sitting on the
Speaker 1: ground breathing hart reevaluating his whole life. Morning. Everybody is
Speaker 1: dj Envy Angela. Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We are the
Speaker 1: breakfast club. We got a special guest in the building. Man.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was in jail, Stevie j
Speaker 1: I did was jail. Now I'm not in jail. You know,
Speaker 1: I got a brace on the the put you on
Speaker 1: house arrest. I mean the child support thing. I remember
Speaker 1: you did the video. It sounded like you was like
Speaker 1: saying you was about to go away. They wanted to
Speaker 1: lock me up. But you know, thank god they didn't
Speaker 1: lock me up. I'm out here with my kids, so
Speaker 1: I'm happy. Did you. Oh they said you a million
Speaker 1: dollars you paid everything? Yeah, they said an old a
Speaker 1: million a half. But it's looking like nothing close to it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But we're gonna take care
Speaker 1: of that and keep it pushing. How do you get
Speaker 1: to a million and a half? I didn't even get
Speaker 1: to that number because you know, they had the default
Speaker 1: judgment against me, like I was Kobe or something for
Speaker 1: like fifteen thousand a month. But you know it wasn't
Speaker 1: really that number. So they found out the right number.
Speaker 1: So it's looking more like under a hundle. See that
Speaker 1: the curse of reality TV because it's a lot of
Speaker 1: fame that comes with it. So I guess big Mama,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I feel like that's the curse of
Speaker 1: the nineties being hot in the early two thousands, and
Speaker 1: everybody think you're getting fifty million dollars off of the
Speaker 1: royalty every other day. Yeah, I mean the money was good,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't once and fifteen thousand a month in
Speaker 1: Child Player. You ain't ever shooting no jump shots, no, no,
Speaker 1: no jump shot. All right, now, let's discuss this because
Speaker 1: I saw the ultimate baby shower over the weekend for Joscelyn,
Speaker 1: but you weren't there. But you were just with Jocelyn
Speaker 1: the other day. That's your baby. First of all. I
Speaker 1: mean we're gonna see. Can't you get a test while
Speaker 1: the baby's still inside? Yeah? We did that. Results come
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. Oh tomorrow, you should have tomorrow, the results
Speaker 1: come back. I wasn't there, you know. I mean, she
Speaker 1: was all good just a week ago. It was I
Speaker 1: saw you. She was cooking for you. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And then her brother went with me to the gym.
Speaker 1: He came buy my house, and he came up my
Speaker 1: house and saw one of my artists leaving and told
Speaker 1: her it was Tommy. You know how her and Tommy
Speaker 1: don't get Tommy was having sex with each other, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that but um, I missed that. But you know, he
Speaker 1: told it was Tommy, but it wasn't. He just went
Speaker 1: back and just after we went to the gym, he
Speaker 1: I dropped him off at the mall. He like, Yo,
Speaker 1: Tommy was at the house and just started her the
Speaker 1: wild you know what I'm saying, for no reason, and
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do that when she's not much pregnant. So
Speaker 1: do you even love your sister to do some fire
Speaker 1: stuff like Stevie, you ain't got a lot of us
Speaker 1: now that I understand, that's a good lot of tell.
Speaker 1: But Tommy, y'all in the trailer for your new show.
Speaker 1: So that's like my niece. You know what I'm saying. Nothing,
Speaker 1: He didn't even say my nephew. That's why, Oh what
Speaker 1: happens in jail? You know what I'm saying. She dated Simmons,
Speaker 1: Like we're just family. That's sitting that she scrappers in jail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but knowing that Jocelyn doesn't like that, is it weird
Speaker 1: that you would be cool and or even have a
Speaker 1: rail business? Is business? Really? So she could be cool
Speaker 1: with people that you don't mess with it, and she
Speaker 1: she messed with what's your clowns? I'm us with Now,
Speaker 1: well what clowns? Because we heard you didn't like young Droe. Okay,
Speaker 1: who's that? Young Joel was running around with Joslyn and
Speaker 1: I saw he said, I'm here for whatever you need.
Speaker 1: He had posted man listen man. But let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. In an ideal world, she wouldn't run around
Speaker 1: deal world. But people you don't like that, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: run around take care of their own children and our
Speaker 1: jail world before they try to take care of other people.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, young girl don't take care as kids.
Speaker 1: That's well, remember young j FDB because his baby mom
Speaker 1: wouldn't let him see his cow. You know, I'm just blessed. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Stevee? Savannah, um Shot day Eva, Dory and
Speaker 1: all my kids. Go ahead. This is the guy that
Speaker 1: you don't claim not to know this young girl. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna be beeping with Stevie J. Are you. That's
Speaker 1: one thing I told him I would not do. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't talk it alone because I know he's very protected.
Speaker 1: We don't know. You know, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia means
Speaker 1: I don't know Stevie J like period, you know, and
Speaker 1: I don't but you know what though, I think he
Speaker 1: t my phone one time. That's what it was. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, get at me to Steve. I I thought,
Speaker 1: I wonder what was he calling me about? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I was like, I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't hit him back. We were gonna
Speaker 1: talk about I'm definitely not dating this girl, you know,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't. I don't got any to talk about.
Speaker 1: Did you text him and say what's up? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: told him to hit me, but you know, anybody texts
Speaker 1: my phone tell me to hit me, I'm like, who
Speaker 1: is this? You know what I'm saying, I'll respond. You know,
Speaker 1: when people don't hit you back, I mean, you know, disrespectful, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little? Do you do you do you like? Do
Speaker 1: you think the baby's yours? We'll see, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm hopeful, but you know, okay, so you
Speaker 1: hope you hope that's your baby. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: hopeful that she have a healthy baby. Right. Does the
Speaker 1: way you did with women moving forward, like has a
Speaker 1: change because you blew Joscelin up. You made her hot
Speaker 1: and then she went out, didn't like started popping the
Speaker 1: poop poop for a little bit. I can't think of
Speaker 1: the name me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know, me
Speaker 1: and Mimi have a different type of relationship, like she's
Speaker 1: one of my best friends or whatever. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, definitely moving forward. It affects on my relationship
Speaker 1: or hot deal with women. But you know, I'm still
Speaker 1: be the good guy regardless. Then I'll come on, ste
Speaker 1: if you really think you were the good guy in
Speaker 1: all these cases, you don't. You don't take responsibility for
Speaker 1: any of the things that you did. And man, tell
Speaker 1: you why you're a good guy because he was always honest.
Speaker 1: I was honest. And then look at that, look at
Speaker 1: the money they made every year. But everything's not about money.
Speaker 1: If somebody thinks I'm just gonna be with you, I
Speaker 1: love you, and then who thought that? You know, at
Speaker 1: any point, you don't think MEMI really wanted to be
Speaker 1: with you. That is your you know, one of your
Speaker 1: best friends, like she did. She always goes back to
Speaker 1: you know, it seems like it, but you never know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just I'm just happy that I did
Speaker 1: great for both of them. You don't think you're hired
Speaker 1: to date. I'm not easy, but you know I'm a
Speaker 1: good guy though, when I'm when I'm hired, when I'm president,
Speaker 1: I'm near you may me, Me and Johnson knock each
Speaker 1: other off like that's what before the show started, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that was real. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff is contrived, but not the
Speaker 1: steviej story. Now, you couldn't make the whole polygamy thing
Speaker 1: work with everybody one big sand much because you know,
Speaker 1: one day one of them is more happy than the
Speaker 1: other one, one of them getting more beefcaked than the
Speaker 1: other one. So it doesn't work that way in the
Speaker 1: perfect world. WO be great, but that had never happened.
Speaker 1: Now what line do you use to get all these
Speaker 1: girls just start popping off with each other? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't use the line. Probably just pick up the
Speaker 1: guitar and scene to him, and you know they like
Speaker 1: show them to pack to something. What about Rick Roles?
Speaker 1: Because Rick Ross was rumor that Rick Ross was dating
Speaker 1: Jocelyn too. I don't think it was true, but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Who you know, they've grown. Let
Speaker 1: them do what they do. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You think you could be in a monogamous relationship. Oh no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But right now, I just want to just love money
Speaker 1: and love my work, and I'm happy by my new show.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy than I'm working and able to provide
Speaker 1: for my family, my kids, my dad and my mom,
Speaker 1: my sisters and brothers. Because that show was supposed to
Speaker 1: be you and Jocelyn. Originally, absolutely not, Okay, the first
Speaker 1: show was you know, the name of the show is
Speaker 1: the Stevie J. Project. So the first show I chose
Speaker 1: the name Stevie and Jocelyn, you know, so it could
Speaker 1: have just been Stevie J. I'm saying, But originally that
Speaker 1: was the plan, Stevie and Jocelyn. Originally the plan was
Speaker 1: Stevie J. You know what I'm saying. I was nice enough,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that girl at the time
Speaker 1: of the time, you know what I'm saying. Once things
Speaker 1: got a little disrespectful. It was like, you know, once again,
Speaker 1: business is business, and she was calling you gay. She
Speaker 1: said she with molestation accusations or something, which which I
Speaker 1: feel like you can't just throw that accusation out here.
Speaker 1: You can't come back from certain things, and that's one
Speaker 1: of the things you can't come back from you know,
Speaker 1: and and you know the people from Defects was all
Speaker 1: at Mimi's house and all at my heart, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: saying they closed the case on step all the fifth
Speaker 1: actually investigator of the jobs. And yeah, just because she
Speaker 1: said that. Wow, but you still did just recently try
Speaker 1: to go and make amends with her with your baby
Speaker 1: on the way. Even still, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I made amends. You know what I'm saying that I
Speaker 1: got a lot of flak from you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying my family, like you, how could you even want
Speaker 1: to deal with this check out that she said that
Speaker 1: about your daughter's just like even your own children, Like
Speaker 1: what are you doing right? So at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's just like I did that in the
Speaker 1: same day, she want to fight me. Next day she
Speaker 1: come on set, want to fight me. So it's like,
Speaker 1: let me just leave that away. So she did attack
Speaker 1: you where you physically like had injuries and everything. She
Speaker 1: admitted that the baby before the baby, right before the
Speaker 1: um the Sunday and Monday, fought me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, come on, I know you were scared
Speaker 1: because you could have lost the baby. I mean it's
Speaker 1: more or less like, why would her brother even put
Speaker 1: in a situation to want to fight nine months pregnant?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's that's what kind of
Speaker 1: guy as a brother like it? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously he's not that bright of a guy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Um, you got to have no love
Speaker 1: for your family to want to lose the baby or
Speaker 1: nine months you know, and she's high risking them are
Speaker 1: even just to tell on another guy? Guy cold? But
Speaker 1: lie to your brother though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna lie to your sister, right, No, not lie,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm not gonna say he broke guy
Speaker 1: code from there. Yeah, he definitely broke just you don't.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't telling another man. But if it's
Speaker 1: your sister, I would approached Stevie for like Stevie, who's that?
Speaker 1: But then like this, but I'm not dating your sister
Speaker 1: that too, you're not together. We're not together. So he
Speaker 1: just goss been basically gossip. We got more with STEVJ
Speaker 1: when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club morning. Everybody
Speaker 1: is DJ m vy angela Ye, Charlemagne, the God, we
Speaker 1: are the breakfast Club. We have Stevie J from Love
Speaker 1: and Hip Hop Atlanta in the building. Nwe yes, Steven.
Speaker 1: So we've been hearing about you and Faith Evans. You
Speaker 1: guys have been pictured together on the bad Boy tour.
Speaker 1: So are you guys really dating? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know the for almost twenty five years, and you know,
Speaker 1: did you like her back in the day, Like back
Speaker 1: in the day when she was with Big it wasn't
Speaker 1: just like our family. And then you know, as she
Speaker 1: has progressed, we're just forgingna hang out more talk more.
Speaker 1: So is this new and new to us? It's new brand?
Speaker 1: So do you see a real future like this could
Speaker 1: be the person I settled down with. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just feel that I shouldn't have crossed that line because
Speaker 1: once you crossed that line, emotions really overwhelmed you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, overwhelmed me and herd. So what do
Speaker 1: you mean cross the line like half sex? Yeah, she
Speaker 1: started dating your best friends? Look different. Wow, you played
Speaker 1: a guitar for her and yeah she sang for me
Speaker 1: all the time. You're dating Biggie's wife, you know, Biggie's
Speaker 1: ex wife. Stop widow. Widow, do you ever wear condom? cVj? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like what was I left my wife? How do you
Speaker 1: decide whether or not you want to wear condoms or not?
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, if I don't know the person,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wrap up. So okay, if I don't know,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't even be bad with somebody you don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm good because I want why like your family at
Speaker 1: greats A good point? Why would you want to have
Speaker 1: kids with Jocelyn her Nanda? And we've seen videos of
Speaker 1: her wild in the studio, looking like she all on drugs,
Speaker 1: so yeah, we don't know if she's mentally ill, Like,
Speaker 1: why would you want to breed with Jocelyn Hernand? Well,
Speaker 1: it just happened, you know. It wasn't doesn't seem so dark.
Speaker 1: It wasn't playing though. It just happened, you know, And
Speaker 1: obviously she knew it was going on. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying before I did. But it is what it is.
Speaker 1: We just got to approach it the way we got.
Speaker 1: Especially if you think that she there sleeping with a
Speaker 1: bunch of different dude that would have made me if
Speaker 1: I did hit put a condom on it. But you
Speaker 1: know that was probably at the time where we wasn't
Speaker 1: even just a good nights. Yeah, you never had an
Speaker 1: STD or nothing. No, I ain't got the like I say, now,
Speaker 1: did you ever have met little clamydia? Little syphilis? A crab?
Speaker 1: Did had the crabs? I was on the plane and
Speaker 1: I'm like, what year? This was? All right? That made sense?
Speaker 1: Let somebody hold some of my stuff and they wore
Speaker 1: and your draws? Do you let somebody draws? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about close with a hitman? We didn't. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? My joint on the plane? And
Speaker 1: it was crazy? So you never had three things with
Speaker 1: Tommy and Jocelyn right, No, So they was just it
Speaker 1: was just something they was doing on their own. See
Speaker 1: what happened when you do something by yourself, don't work out? Right?
Speaker 1: So how did Timmy end up on the show? Was
Speaker 1: it because it was because of your nephew and yeah,
Speaker 1: my nephew Scrap and Sash, So you basically bought everyone
Speaker 1: on there. Well, you know, I just played a part
Speaker 1: of making everybody, you know, get paid. What about production?
Speaker 1: You're back to producing working? Yes, absolutely, I'm working on
Speaker 1: His Faith the King and the album were almost finished Um,
Speaker 1: I'm executive producing with her, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and working on some new artists for Epic. Can this
Speaker 1: boy working on my project? I'm just working, man. Kelly
Speaker 1: Price has just finished her project, so I'm just back
Speaker 1: to doing what I love doing. I wondered about that too,
Speaker 1: because he was on you came up on some some
Speaker 1: of the Bad Boy dates. Yeah. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's on all of them, but I saw you on
Speaker 1: a few of them. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Me and Puff's just cooling, just talking, and he wanted
Speaker 1: me to showcase that musical talent instead of being in
Speaker 1: front of television. He felt like people needed to see
Speaker 1: me with a guitar in my hand. I don't want
Speaker 1: How did they treat you like today? Man? It was
Speaker 1: all love? Okay, all love. So you feel like, let's
Speaker 1: talk about your show? Who else is on it? Because
Speaker 1: we know the trailer hit Jock on it, we gotta
Speaker 1: Scrappy on it, we got Faith on it, we got
Speaker 1: Timmy on it, we got my children on it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's just man, this sounds more
Speaker 1: like a peaceful Yeah, it's a peaceful family show us
Speaker 1: like a family Matters type show. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's it's more or less away from the ratchet stuff
Speaker 1: and just into a happy space with your Matt right now,
Speaker 1: because it wasn't so happy last year. I told Johnson
Speaker 1: had the baby and then you got to do the
Speaker 1: DNA test. I mean then I'm still gonna be happy
Speaker 1: because I'm just gonna gonna tomorrow. Yeah. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm playing a lot of instruments on the show, more music,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, singing and stuff. It's cool doing country Western shows. Funny,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Now, you told Tims that
Speaker 1: if the baby is yours, you're gonna seek full custody. Why.
Speaker 1: I mean, my thing is like this. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're not in your right mind to be fighting at
Speaker 1: nine months when you're pregnant and all that, I need
Speaker 1: to cycle evaluates, you know what I'm saying. I need
Speaker 1: to know what's up with you when that baby is born.
Speaker 1: I want to test the baby. I want to test you.
Speaker 1: I want to you know what I'm saying. If everything
Speaker 1: was on the up with us and then she wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to fight me in you know, I come to
Speaker 1: her in piece and she want to fight and vold
Speaker 1: the crazy When a woman's pregnant, you can't. But now
Speaker 1: but still we don't. You gotta think about the baby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she just you know, saying, just punching me in my
Speaker 1: face and my crab and I'm grabbing telling her brother, yo,
Speaker 1: just get her. I'm my crab. And he's standing there
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. I just want to
Speaker 1: make sure that the baby is good. Babe. Having a
Speaker 1: baby will change her though, because that does happen for
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Well, you know, you you're having
Speaker 1: strippers at the at the baby shower and all that,
Speaker 1: and then you got the cake and you asking dudes, yo,
Speaker 1: you want to eat the d on the cake? How
Speaker 1: about you eat to you know the cake? Come on.
Speaker 1: This is interesting though, because when a person shows you
Speaker 1: who they all believed. And we've been seeing this Joscelyn
Speaker 1: for years. You know, I thought that it was going
Speaker 1: to change due to the baby and all that, but
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. You think it's
Speaker 1: an age or two. I didn't realize she was just thirty.
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all, you like fifteen years older than I'm thirteen.
Speaker 1: Years older than now. But you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, thirty is still thirty, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not eighteen, you know. And then I showed
Speaker 1: you a great life. Why would you want to disrespect
Speaker 1: the guy that that that made your life a full circle?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, looked at you as a woman,
Speaker 1: that treated you as a woman, not just you know
Speaker 1: somebody that's the problem. Man, When you a girl and
Speaker 1: teach or something what you clearly did, and then she
Speaker 1: turned around and disrespects you. It's crazy to me, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'll be kissing my feet,
Speaker 1: keeping feet and toes how many times? How many times
Speaker 1: you think you told her in your life, I made you?
Speaker 1: Have you ever? I never said that to her, oka
Speaker 1: saying it's more or less like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then she emailed me, I appreciate everything you've done
Speaker 1: for me and my career and now this baby. And
Speaker 1: then the same breath, you out there having so um
Speaker 1: papers and buildings saying I'm a molester in all this,
Speaker 1: but you email. I actually thought like, that's probably the
Speaker 1: worst thing you could say about somebody, you know. But
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have friends like Dda Edo was to
Speaker 1: just keep me calming and allow me to use my
Speaker 1: brain raving in emotions. You know what I'm saying, dealing
Speaker 1: with s how do her emails a little? Because I
Speaker 1: mean it looked like somebody wrote them up for you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's too good to do. This
Speaker 1: is something I'm saying. But you know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm not gonna beleed those emails. When
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You got somebody running around
Speaker 1: with a monkey mask on in Atlanta throwing these documents
Speaker 1: in the office buildings. What kind of stuff is that?
Speaker 1: They said that she destroyed sixty five thousands worth of
Speaker 1: your stuff? What did she destroy? Um? She cut up
Speaker 1: my minx, my bad boy jackets on my shoes. She's
Speaker 1: just destroyed a lot of clothes beside she dishes. She
Speaker 1: just you know, destructive. You ain't gonna have a back
Speaker 1: in the crib no more na. Yeah, I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: rather just keep it a distance. I don't need to
Speaker 1: know where she lives. She don't need to know my
Speaker 1: new crib back. I have somebody to pick up the baby,
Speaker 1: and and that s all right, we got more with TEVJ.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll update you on this relationship
Speaker 1: with Mimi and one of the last time you spoke
Speaker 1: to Eve. We'll find out when we come back. It's
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the breakfast club you need
Speaker 1: for morning. Everybody's DJ, Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the God.
Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We have Stevie J from
Speaker 1: Love and Hip Hop Atlanta in the building. Now, when
Speaker 1: Mimi was being fake gay for TV's she has a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Now No, al right, Okay, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people in Atlanta and they all say even when it're
Speaker 1: for Sady, you know she likes man. She was with
Speaker 1: Jocelyn before the show. Yeah, but A pioneered that. Okay,
Speaker 1: you started that. Okay, Steve, do you make all your
Speaker 1: girls go by I mean, not faith Na. She's a
Speaker 1: real woman. She's beautiful. She older though you. But you
Speaker 1: know some old joints then you know, never tasted exactly,
Speaker 1: but I do. It's just their choice. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I just like I used to
Speaker 1: like to have a lot of fun, but now you
Speaker 1: don't calm down. Yes, now you're getting older. Two women
Speaker 1: take a lot to do two women, just what I
Speaker 1: went through with the old Johnslyn things. It's like, yo,
Speaker 1: come on, scared straight? No, yeah, you really thought she
Speaker 1: should have been a star a musician. I mean it's
Speaker 1: not even that she. My thing wasn't as a musicians,
Speaker 1: like loving hip hop. So I need to create this artists,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Give her something to do
Speaker 1: on the good. But then you know she she had
Speaker 1: to look and then she had the attitude. So it's
Speaker 1: like I'm like, boom, I'm gonna give you something that
Speaker 1: she ain't gonna go take your clothes off. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do this music thing with you, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and not just allowed her to believe that
Speaker 1: she was Selena. You know what I'm come on, now,
Speaker 1: do you still have a stake in her as far
Speaker 1: as management? Yeah? And I haven't been paid in years.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying. I wants my friend.
Speaker 1: Are you waiting for her love and hip hop checks? Too?
Speaker 1: I wants my bread. Oh, you're waiting for the baby
Speaker 1: to be boys? So when she comes for that, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, I'll come in for this business. Why haven't
Speaker 1: it bade you, Um, it's up to her to cut
Speaker 1: her to check. She's supposed to come to me my
Speaker 1: thirty percent. Thirty percent. Wow, that's that's mild because now
Speaker 1: doing fifty fifty deals, what's what is these? What are
Speaker 1: these deals? These artists doing firty sixty deals for reality shows,
Speaker 1: for music and everything. I mean, television is a little different.
Speaker 1: But you're not a label I am. I'm a full
Speaker 1: on entertainment confer I'm saying, I guess I gotta sign
Speaker 1: the Vibe com Three weeks after she signed a contract
Speaker 1: a six year deal. Who does that? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? You're not even who are you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? How long is your deal for? No? I
Speaker 1: just accumulated a few years, you know, somebody terming to
Speaker 1: Sherman Hemsley on TV and all that, that's a great deal.
Speaker 1: So so she got different shows coming out like she
Speaker 1: might have her own. She got the own thing especial
Speaker 1: about the baby and all that that. I'm not a
Speaker 1: part of that, but she's got that. I helped pioneer
Speaker 1: that too. Right, what if she's do you know I
Speaker 1: want my thirty you have to sue somebody else? See, well,
Speaker 1: you know that's already done. What if she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we can be peaceful. I won't come at you for this.
Speaker 1: Just let me get out of my contract. I needs
Speaker 1: my bread. That bread's gonna outweigh anything I got to give.
Speaker 1: What does your daughter say now that you have custody
Speaker 1: and she's you know, seventeen eighteen, it's just like, yo,
Speaker 1: don't have her over here, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and just keep her over there after kids yours and
Speaker 1: we're just do what we do with the baby. But
Speaker 1: you know she doesn't really feel it. But because of
Speaker 1: all the stuff that she was saying about a little sister, right,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, none of the kids feel her now.
Speaker 1: One of your older sons, Dorian, was on Instagram freestyle
Speaker 1: and saying you and ask the tea father. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't see that, you know what I'm And maybe
Speaker 1: he was in his emotions at the time. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just saw him at Eva's birthday party,
Speaker 1: hugged me, said he's sorry, he loved me, and you
Speaker 1: know he came we ate dinner. But you know I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would never steal from my father, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying it was an instance where he stole a
Speaker 1: lot of equipment from me and I had to just
Speaker 1: as myself. You know what I'm saying. How old was he? Um?
Speaker 1: Twenty one? Oh? Was he a grown man? Not even
Speaker 1: a kid? No more. You can't even forgive him like
Speaker 1: you do forgive a job, right, you know, I just
Speaker 1: forgive him, but you're not in the trust fund no more.
Speaker 1: So you really don't rock with him, so it's not
Speaker 1: like you would have rock with him. But you gotta
Speaker 1: come to the table right now. Yeah, let's just take
Speaker 1: that away because I don't owe you anything. I did
Speaker 1: what I did. Now, you're twenty two and you got
Speaker 1: a kid. I take care of you and your kid.
Speaker 1: Now you have to show me that you can get
Speaker 1: a job. Once you get a job, then maybe we
Speaker 1: could talk about the trust. Is that a convo you
Speaker 1: had with him? Like you know, you're on Instagram talking
Speaker 1: about him a father you stole from you know, wrock.
Speaker 1: You didn't know what he did. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Some certain things don't have to be said. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I still love him, but sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta show that tough love. I would never stand
Speaker 1: for my father CBJ don't had a rough pass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it only makes me stronger. I'm happening.
Speaker 1: What's the last time you seeen? Eve? Oh man? He
Speaker 1: was watching this like I really hope again again? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we cool? She followed me on social media. Now we're cool? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: To be mad about you never said nothing about it,
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, And you guys really
Speaker 1: did dat. It wasn't a secret and it was a
Speaker 1: great relationship. And I helped her get the Grammy and
Speaker 1: it was the best record you ever made when I
Speaker 1: produced it with her. You know what I'm saying, Snow,
Speaker 1: he says, the best records you ever made? You know
Speaker 1: the Scorpion joined with the Stefani join want to Grammy
Speaker 1: for that? Let me blow your mind. I wrote that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Oh you're good the whole so
Speaker 1: many credits, it's like, so, so who's that guy? Young Flow?
Speaker 1: What's his name? Girl? I'm like, who his accolades next
Speaker 1: to mine? Put his you know anything he ever done
Speaker 1: accomplishments next to mind? Then you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But y'all, I don't have no issues with each other
Speaker 1: aside from just because of this job, you know, just
Speaker 1: to say slick stuff. I'm in the gym, so you know,
Speaker 1: you know the walls closed in, They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be next to me, you know what I'm saying. I've
Speaker 1: seen Stevie J fight before, man, Charlotte, North Carolina. Was
Speaker 1: that then? Remember that it was a weekend. That wasn't
Speaker 1: a fight like I jumped. Yeah, that wasn't no fight.
Speaker 1: You know what I no, I saw you helping somebody.
Speaker 1: I was mistaken. Now you was mistaken. I'm watching a
Speaker 1: whole go down. Now my crew have fought and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: my crew have fought somebody, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: get involved in fights unlessons in one on one and
Speaker 1: I gotta you know, wrinkle somebody school close up. You
Speaker 1: think you and jo can get over that though, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't got nothing to say a woman
Speaker 1: that you know already know what she's staying. And he's
Speaker 1: saying that he never messed with her. Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: saying he never messed with her and they just did
Speaker 1: some music together. He's on other station, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's an other station saying this and that.
Speaker 1: But you know, this is what it is. I'm just
Speaker 1: about this paper man, you know what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: and new improved Stevie Ja not really but okay, all right,
Speaker 1: ain't about the creep life anymore. I'm done with all that.
Speaker 1: I'm just want to make sure I'm providing for my
Speaker 1: next three generations. Man. I got my daughter living with
Speaker 1: me now, so it's different. All right. Well, there you
Speaker 1: have it. That's tough. It's Stevie Seat, it's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning,