WEBVTT - Beanie Sigel + Classic Interviews 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:05.920 Fifty percent year, I love you fifty percent to sit down. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.360 Didn't become the most prominent form your ass up early 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.480 in the morning. But they told me it was. Y'all said, 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:23.160 hell yeah, I'm getting three people's short morning. Everybody is 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.160 dj M v Angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.000 the breakfast club. We got some special guests in the 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:35.200 building from the fake h you count University, Jamilla Lemu, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.320 good morning, Amber Phillips and Philip. I don't know what 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.960 school you with, Damba. I went to a small women's 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:47.519 college in Pittsburgh called Chatham. Chad, good morning. I know 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:54.400 you're gonna bring Amber Jamiller. Yeah, like that. But you 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.240 said you bring any black woman you want. I said, 0:00:56.280 --> 0:01:00.160 I'm bringing am. Absolutely controversy for Jamilla. They get up here, 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.520 Jamilla and Amber. That was when Charlotte Mayne was pictured 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:08.160 with Tommy Laren. They were some laughing emoji saying I 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:12.080 don't see color, do you? Yeah? Jamilla, tell us about 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:13.600 that struck a chord in you, because it struck a 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.720 chord in me too when I first saw it. If 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.200 George W. Bush gave us one good thing and his 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.839 whole presidency, it was we don't negotiate with terrors. When 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.959 you take somebody who has said things about our people 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.080 that are so racist, that are so hateful, that are 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.240 so lacking in value, we don't need to sit with 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.800 somebody like that to understand why she feels the way 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.440 she does or where she's coming from. And if we do, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.720 it's not on a platform where we're laughing and joking 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.920 because the things that she says, she's not coming up 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.600 with them on her own. She's not the architect, she's 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.920 not the head of any of this. But she is 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:53.480 making this very dangerous rhetoric normal and comfortable. Right. So 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.400 she's a cute girl. She looks like any other little 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.400 blond twenty something you can follow on Instagram. So her 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:03.120 saying that gold further with young folks, particularly young white kids, 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.320 that it does coming from an ad culter or Donald Trump. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.120 She's making it cool. She's making it sexy. When you 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.120 give her a platform and joke around and palle around 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.000 with her as if she's anybody else you have a 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.520 disagreement with, that legitimizes her in ways that I don't 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.040 think we should. And what we were all so upset 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.120 with you about so much of what she said and 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.400 people like her was about black men, you know what 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.720 I'm saying, like the idea that black men are inherently criminal, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.680 and so when black women got mad, it was like 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.960 a Charlomagne and hell with him, blah blah. It's like 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.839 it was a lot of that. But it's coming from 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.840 a place of we're defending you. When somebody's comparing the 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:46.040 Black Lives Matter movement to the Clue Klux Klan, that's 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.600 putting us in danger, but that's putting you in danger too. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.560 We're standing up for you. We're saying, look, we love 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.440 our men. We don't want you all to be brutalized 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.000 by the police. This is somebody who's made light of 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.560 young men and women. Of course, we're particularly man being 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.440 killed by the police and harassed by the police and 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.000 stopped them for us. And when you joke around with 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.720 that and say ha ha, we you know, we can 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.400 keep key and make little Black Penis Matter jokes and 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.920 all that stuff, it's hurtful to people who are literally 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.079 putting their lives on the line. I'm a journalist, I'm 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:18.040 a writer. She's an activist. They're people who are spending 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.600 and they're not famous, and you don't see them on 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.760 Seeing In or MSNBC. They're spending nights weeks in jail, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.920 they're losing their jobs, so they're not out there at all. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.400 The attempting that, well, why isn't there any woke the 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:30.400 black and her span women. But they are out there. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.480 But that's not what I said, though. But I do 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.399 feel like we should poke holes in her narrative any 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.120 chance we get, because she does have the voice of 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.760 young people. She's gonna be a voice for the conservative 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.760 right for the next four I think she needs not 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.080 in a joking manner, right, It's not. I'm a guy 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.040 that can go from serious. I can go from righteous 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.480 to ratchet real quick, right, I think so coming from 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.880 my perspective. I'm also known as a high priest, is 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.000 a Black Joy on our podcast called the Black Joy Mixtape. 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:02.520 And there's a way to do both, right. I think 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.360 there's this assumption around That's why I'm so thrilled to 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.080 be here. There's assumption around black feminists that we're just 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.520 sitting in our rooms reading Audrey Layd being so serious 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.400 all the time. But we listen to you right like 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.200 we were laughing. Just we've used are you done? Or 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.840 are you finished? Several times in our own organizing spaces. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.440 That's why we talk about black Joy a lot, because 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.760 there's room to joke with it, but there's also room 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.440 to make sure that she doesn't leave your platform feeling 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.440 more confident than before. She went back on her platforms 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.000 and said all these terrible things about Trevor Noah, saying 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.680 that he basically wasn't black enough. She made comments around you, 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.560 and I think she clearly didn't learn anything from being here. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:44.800 But all I'm saying is the conversation that we had 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.640 was me sitting there explaining to her why her rhetoric 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.839 is dangerous to black people, especially black men, Like we 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:54.360 had these It's not even the first of all I've 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.479 had this conversation with her. I had this conversation with 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.640 her back in February and a public platform when I 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.200 was on her show on the Blaze Network, And then 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.120 when I saw what she said on Trevor Noah, I'm like, yo, 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.880 she still doesn't get it. So since she's not coming 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.680 to the breakfast club, let's sit down and have a 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.880 conversation so I can explain to her why her rhetoric 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.600 get so dead. But what does it mean? To offer 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.920 her friendship outside of holding her accountable. A big piece 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.359 in the movement that we talk about is like we're family, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.720 were this, but in order to be family have to 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.040 struggle together. And honestly, there are just people with whom 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.360 you can't reason, you know what I mean. I think 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.880 it's the moderates that we might be able to have 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.400 some success with because they didn't show up by the 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.359 droves to protect us from Donald Trump. You know, a 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.120 whole lot of white voters stay at home. And I 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.320 don't think she can be reached in a fun, cool 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.320 hip hop space. I don't think she can be reached 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.479 by Trevor Noah, who's very conciliatory and all we have 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.880 to do is listen to each other. But what your 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.919 audience needs, I think it's for you all to just 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.520 really understand the power that you all have in radio. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.400 People come here to talk to millennials, So what are 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.920 you going to talk to millennials about? And for years, Charlomagne, 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.960 I felt like, on the various shows that you've done, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.840 a lot of people I can't believe you like him. 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.360 You know, he's problematic, he says. I'm like, he's complicated, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:03.839 like a lot of people, but I've heard you so 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.400 many times to be the voice of reason, particularly around 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.479 issues of race. That's why I was so personally hurt 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.279 that this was the person that you wanted to joke 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.680 around with and is really based on hate and ignorance, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.560 and people that believe those things feel like she's their spokesperson. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.640 And if she doesn't have that, she doesn't have that 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.159 platform anymore. She already has a platform. And that's why 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.960 I made the comment I made, which was not meant 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.320 to be offensive in any way, shape or form. Are 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.920 discredit any black women high span of coming. I just 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.839 feel like we need an online news network with news 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.040 pundits that can combat that young voice that's going be 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:38.880 coming from the conservative right for the next four years. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:40.880 And I think that we have that, you know what 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.360 I'm saying. It doesn't like we don't get boosted up 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.839 in the way that she does because we don't represent 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.920 what she does and in our community, we don't have 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.479 the money and resources. But like, look at me, I 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.120 started my career with the blog. I'm thirty two years old. 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.960 I'm a media executive, right like I I'm in a 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.320 position to hire other people to hire editors, to assign 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.200 work and we have big plans for next year at 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.840 Interactive one. You look at Crystals, right, you look at 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.280 Francesca like you look at all these look at Amber. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.080 We are building platforms now again. We're not gonna get 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.720 put on a blaze. We're not getting shows on MSNBC 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.960 like we were a few years ago. So what we 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.360 need now more than ever, is not to boaster somebody 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.280 like her up by giving her access to your space, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.400 but to boaster somebody like Amber. Right, so right now, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.000 maybe it's like, look, once a week, we're gonna do 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.440 a fifteen minute Black Lives Matter. Just check in, We're 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.280 gonna talk to an activist. We're gonna talk to a 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.080 journalist and just kind of talk about what's going on. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:36.920 You have you have. But I think it's like making 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.640 it a concert, like this is the thing that we're 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.240 calling it what it is, and we're saying every Thursday, 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.080 this is your black lives you know whatever, check in, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:49.560 But trust black women like and I totally apol I 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.080 didn't look at Crystal in that way, Francesca in that 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.680 way like I'm thinking news pundit, but in the way 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.440 they are the absolutely are. So how do we help 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.920 them amplify their voice, you know, like allowing like when 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.000 you have me on your MTV show, it was something 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.320 terrible happened, somebody had gotten killed. I was kind of 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:07.840 brought in to be the voice of read now, not 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:09.480 to tell jokes, and I tell drunks and stuff too. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:13.920 I'm ratchet, I you know, like you know, like I'm 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.200 breaking a girl and I'm not dressed up. You know, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:18.960 I can't even in my tents, But like I want 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.880 you all, Like I think like everyone's saying this assumption 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.880 that you know, we're all just so angry all the 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.040 time and we're mad. It's like, yeah, we're angry in 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:27.720 the way that everybody in this room is angry because 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.360 there's things that are happening in the world that are 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:33.280 bad and scary. But we're also regular girls, you know, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.400 and folks that listen to hip hop and listen to 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.520 you all who deserve to be hurt. And I just 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.200 think that, like I feel for Angelas sometimes, so I'm 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.320 like just being the only woman in the room period. 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.599 It's always hard. But with something like that, knowing that 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.360 other black women were hurt and offended by something that 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.640 you did quite innocently and honestly, I don't think you 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.440 go out of your way to say things to hurt 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.720 black women, to get outraged, but when you do it, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.280 it's just how you receive what we say. So that 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.079 I appreciate you having us here to don't go anywhere. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.920 Jamilla Lemiue, Amber Phillips is the Breakfast Club. Good morning. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.640 What y'all is TJ MV heybody name of Charlemagne the 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.719 Gut and we just want to say happy holidays from 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:16.640 all three of us, all y'all to Breakfast Club. I 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.360 don't want to get everybody as DJ Envy angela Ye, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.000 Charlemagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. We have 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.760 Jamilla Lemiue and Amber Phillips in the building. What do 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.040 you think it is Dunky of to day when he 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.880 get himself Dunky today. I appreciated it. I think there's 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.320 a little bit of you know, I was wrong, but 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:39.400 but the butt was I was actually trying to empower us, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.600 like I was saying, let's create a platform with young 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.400 black Hispanic women to be a voice like Tommy Long. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:51.319 I think I know what I'm saying. You said lifetime, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.520 but don't even bring her name. But think about how 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.560 she became a voice. It's like Facebook. Do y'all realize 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.199 how much power y'all have on social media? Even when 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.480 y'all talk about like Tommy. Tommy used Facebook to get popping. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:06.840 Nobody watches the Blaze. She took her little clips, put 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.480 them on Facebook. They got popping. Y'all make things trend 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.599 in moments. I've been trending for two weeks. Yeah, I 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:16.120 never snuber one on Facebook. All the interviews I've done TV, 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.839 I've done never until Black Women collectedly came together and 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.480 said we're gonna try to get him about it the paint. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.840 Don't get that with in Secure on Sundays number one 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.280 trending Scandal, how do you murder? Y'all can do that 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.440 for you, turning into opportunities. Look at Lovey and I 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.160 think you all had it back and forth about the 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:34.320 word females. Right. She's a New York Times best selling author. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.000 Now you know she started a blog. She was funny. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.240 She's a social media strategist. She tweeted about Scandal. I 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.719 feel like loves like half the reason Scandal blue all 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.400 the way up. I heard her. I hit her book 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:45.760 in my house too. I'm not gonna lie to you. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:47.520 My wife bought her book and I hit it. I'm not. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:53.040 I think you should have her on your show and 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:54.760 talk to her. You know what I mean, because if 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:58.160 you will talk to somebody like Tommy, talk to your sister, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.640 even when when you make us man, when we make 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:01.960 you man, we need to be able to talk to 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.920 each other because no matter how deep our differences are, 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.600 we're family. She's not your family. But I just recognize 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.040 y'all power, like y'all could trump her easily because of 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.960 the power you'll have on social media. I feel like 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.040 social media is the engine. We just have to create 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.520 a car. I think we do have to create an 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.000 online news network and say yes, Jamila is a news 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.839 pointing now, Christian is a news pointing now. Our Francesca 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.080 is the news pointing now. I really think we need that. 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.480 I mean, and I'm working I run one of the sites. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.520 I am in charge of this news one dot com. 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.200 We're building out a big news site like I'm on that. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.400 But I think it's really important that you understand where 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.160 your family just going forward, and how you talk to 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.199 female celebrities and how you respond when male celebrities come 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.720 in here and say certain things about women. Understand that 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:51.359 black women live and die for our men, literally absolutely, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.600 and we deserve that. In response, where did this narrative 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.960 that black men treat white women better than black women 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:02.160 come into play observation? I don't know. I don't know 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.280 about you going on white girls with the girls that 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.959 we would sweat out if you didn't do that. They 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:09.800 like when that black man makes it, he gets too 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.320 white women. That's been Kanye West of himself. I wasn't 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.480 from Queens and I went to Hampton University, like there 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.800 wasn't too many white women, you know, growing up, and 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.600 my mom and papa listened like automatically, you're black, you're 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.240 gonna stay with black. That's how I was raised, brought up. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.120 The old in the hood was the white girl, the 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.000 wh white girl that wanted to hang around. This is 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:34.720 a a male privilege moment my whole life. I never 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.120 is there certain things Black women were here, That's what 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.240 we've seen on TV. Women were here like you know 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.120 what and that, and that's interesting. As far as treating us, 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.079 you know, treating white women better, I think that there's 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.880 a space at times that it's made to engage them 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.520 and hear them out which is why somebody they're just 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.880 white female privilege. They're particularly a good looking quote unquote 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.640 white woman likes Tomie Has and so if she looks okay, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.680 I mean, she's not what beautiful is to me. And 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.480 I certainly know that I'm not what beautiful and that's 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.640 totally fine. But I know that she exists in the 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.160 world where she is treated as a very pretty woman. 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.480 If she were the three hundred pounds of bad acne, 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.920 she probably would not have been introduced to you. She 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.040 wouldn't have been introduced to Trevor Noah, and she wouldn't 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.520 have blown up in the way that she wouldn't be 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.960 the face of anything, right, But just being willing to 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.760 have that conversation with her, like this isn't the first 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.000 time that black women had really come for you on Twitter. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.000 And again, yes, she've had me on your show. I 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.000 reached out to you about something in particular. I hope 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.240 we get a second to talk about that about being 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.000 on the show. You've been respectful to me. To be fair, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.800 I'm already an industry person, you know what I mean. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.720 I'm easier to talk to people perceiving me a little 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.439 bit differently than they do folks like Ambert, but I 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.200 hate Ambo. We did we have still talked too. Yeah, 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.840 the black Joyments say would love to still talk to 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.520 Charlottagne Like this is such an opportunity. I do not 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.280 take it lightly at all, But I appreciate this so 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.600 much because again, your platform reaches the people who we 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.120 want to activate. The folks who listen to this show 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.880 are the people who I will help to register to 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:04.800 vote or who I will help to turn out to 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.040 say her name rally. And that's just such a critical point. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.240 And again it can be all done. People consume politics 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.280 and culture at the same time. Right, Donald Trump will 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.920 be on The Apprentice apparently doing politics and pop culture 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.400 from the highest level, so why not us as well? 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.640 I agree, don't go anywhere. Jamilla Lemieu, Amber Phillips is 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:29.200 the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Happy holidays, wishing you and 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.520 your family the very best this holiday season from all 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.240 of us here at the Breakfast Club. To Breakfast Club 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:41.080 and the morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:43.600 the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We have Jamilla 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.800 Lemieu and Amber Phillips in the building. Now, okay, so 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.160 what is it that you wanted to bring up so 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.360 we make sure we get yes. So I reached out 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.760 to Charlottegne after Nick Cannon was on the show. Nick 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.480 Cannon Yes, because of some of the things he said 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.920 about planned parenthood and black genocide. And I know that 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.360 you've had other on this show. I'm not even gonna 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.680 call them out by name who also speak to that 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.760 same way of thinking. And it's dangerous. So as somebody 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:12.320 who he talks about planned parenthood being black genocide, particularly 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.840 about abortion, think about all the stuff they deal with 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.960 planned parenthood and all of that type of stuff. That's 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.280 that's that type of stuff is to take our community 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.720 and forget gentrification. It's real, it's real genocide. And it's 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.600 been like that for years. This system is not built 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.120 for us. I am of the belief that is incredibly 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:35.000 important that black women have access to reproductive health care 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.760 planned parenthood, which I do not work for them. I've 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.680 done work with them, I've spoken some of their conferences, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.880 I've been on panels with them. They provide so many 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.880 people in our community, men and women and gender nonconfirming 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:52.120 people with access to STD and STI testing, to breast screening, 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.120 birth control condoms, things that people need to have healthy 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.280 sexual lives, and what we know is that the majority 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.960 of adults of you know, childbearing age, are sexually active. Now, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.600 I don't expect everybody to share my views on abortion. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.200 I understand that that is a moral decision that each 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.840 individual has a right to make. But when you take 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.280 a huge platform, and you're a huge celebrity and you 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.760 say something like Planned Parenthood has advocated for black genocide 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.000 or represents black genocide, that's simply not true. And I 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.760 don't like always deferring to the three percent number, but 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.240 it don't Abortion only represents three percent of the business 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:31.720 a Plant Parenthood. Most plan Parenthood locations do not provide abortions. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.640 I don't like saying that number because it also implies 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.080 that there's something wrong with abortion. And people also need 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.000 more access to abortion care, and they should have access 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.600 to abortion care. And if we think that there's this 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.560 myth that abortion is just birth control for irresponsible black 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.880 women having a whole bunch of sets, it's a lot 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.960 of things to a lot of people. But most of 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:55.160 the people who who have abortions are already raising children. 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:58.560 This is somebody making a decision that for economic reasons 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.080 for personal reasons. They're not interested in bringing another child 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.600 into the words women that are married and they're struggling 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.200 financially and they decide, Okay, we don't want to have 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:12.840 another child and disagree with Black women having abortions. Why 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:26.480 I'm just messing with y'all. Job I say, I was like, 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:32.280 but why? But also, in Nick Cannon saying that Plan 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.080 Parenthood is supporting Black genocide, what that lands on the 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.320 eras is that Black women are supporting the killing of 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.040 our community. And we just know that's not true. Black 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.080 women are making the best decisions they can with the 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.320 resources they have. And actually, if black if Nick Cannon 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.480 would like to lead a conversation on reproductive healthcare, we 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.560 can talk about how there's grown men out here who 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.159 still don't know how to put on a condom the 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.880 right way. In fact, that is way more effective than 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.720 you saying that we're killing our kids and our communions 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:04.160 and the wrong size kindom. Damn well, you know, damn well, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.680 you know, do you you think kindoms are systemically uncomfortable for 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:13.840 black men? We should do a condom demonstration right now 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.919 because of that, you know, you know what balls me 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.280 know about our community? I feel like when somebody in 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.040 our community says something that most of us are, majority 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.280 of us don't agree we attack. It's attacks. Have a 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.640 problem with that because they might not know, they might 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.400 not have the information, they not might not be educated. 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.720 So I feel like when they attack, people are scared 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.000 to see what they really feel and never know what 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.840 they're feeling. You know it's coming from a personal place, 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.000 because it's not that. And they said he agreed with 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.520 stopping frisk a couple of crazy I mean, but I mean, 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.320 when somebody tries to kill you and you have four 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.920 bullet holes in your car and you know you're trying 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.719 to go home to your family, you say things that 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:51.520 make your emotional that and that's what it was. That's 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.000 one of the things people used to say the breakfast 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.000 clubs problematic. NVA agrees with stopping frisk. Charlemayne Field black 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.680 women don't have no platforms. But also think about where 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.000 those attacks are coming from, right, I think there are 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.280 some folks who are definitely just popping off to be 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:05.720 popping off. The attacks are coming from people who are 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.960 also trying to save their own lives. Right There are 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.560 a lot of people who are not here right now 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.160 because of stopping frisk if we're using that example, right, 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.679 we know Eric Garner is gone. We know that there 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.680 accounts from I'm from Columbus, Ohio to mere Rice isn't 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.359 here right now. So the reason why people are coming 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.159 out and they're saying, hell, no, you're not going to 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.120 say this is because we're scared, and like you're saying, like, 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.240 there's there's two sides of this, right, you want to 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.679 protect your family too, And there are people who are like, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:34.480 we're dealing with this at every side, right, and we 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.720 don't have as bigger platforms as we need to to 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.040 get the communications right on why our lives are important. 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.520