WEBVTT - A $400,000 Mattress? 

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<v Speaker 1>A four hundred thousand dollars mattress. It's one more thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm strong andy, one more thing? Does it come with

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<v Speaker 1>a woman already on it? That's wrong for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be overpriced? Are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even then it'd be like, that's ridiculous. So I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember if it was on the long end

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<v Speaker 2>illegal and moral and perverse and sick and exploitive but

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<v Speaker 2>also overpriced, man and hot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I talked about this either on the show or

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<v Speaker 1>on the One More Thing podcast a year or so ago,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd read this article in the New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was an I grabbing headline, A

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred thousand dollars mattress Hastin's bed. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you pronounce it. I can't say it exactly like

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<v Speaker 1>the Swedish salesman to Swedish company, the Swedish salesman, because

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<v Speaker 1>the a's got dots over it and stuff. But oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Hastens. There's something but has t e n s.

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<v Speaker 1>I had talked about this year so ago. I read

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<v Speaker 1>this article in the New York Times and it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a fun article about a guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>reviewing this product. He heard about it and he laid

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<v Speaker 1>down on the beds and he wrote about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really interesting, and it was a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was interesting. And they've got only

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of stores around the world, and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Last summer, when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City with my kids, we were walking down

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<v Speaker 1>Park Avenue and I saw one of the stores. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>holy crap, they've got a store here. But it was closed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh wow, I would love to have

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<v Speaker 1>laid down on one of those beds. Well, it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out they've got a store in Palo Alto. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>they do, because if you're listening in other parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the country, maybe you don't know this, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little area of California they call Silicon Valley. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I crossed the bridge, whichever is that the Dumbarton er,

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<v Speaker 1>I get my bridges mixed up. But anyway you drive

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<v Speaker 1>across in there, I am on one Hacker Way. There's Google.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's Facebook. There's Google. Just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>miles up the road, there's Apple. Tesla's right over there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like five of the seven most valuable companies

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<v Speaker 1>in the world are all within a couple of blocks

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<v Speaker 1>each other. So there are a lot of really really

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<v Speaker 1>rich people around, and there's some fancy shopping in that area. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>I had coffee with a friend there once. It was

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<v Speaker 2>several years ago, but and he's in the industry and

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<v Speaker 2>hipped to it, and he kept saying, you see that

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<v Speaker 2>guy over there. I'm like, in the puffy vest and

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<v Speaker 2>the shirt that everybody else is wearing. He's like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy sold whatever jostogram to metaph for three point

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<v Speaker 2>four billion dollars. I'm like, damn, now he's working on something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you see that guy over there that Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>teeming with those people.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to go to a fancy mall on

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday, and I went to the uh the mall.

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<v Speaker 1>There were right next to where Stanford University is, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking from store to store and I see a

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<v Speaker 1>sign for this bed and I thought, Wow, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>one of those stores here, and it was open, and

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in and I said, I read about your

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<v Speaker 1>beds in the New York Times. I've got to lay

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<v Speaker 1>down on them. Well, it gets interesting from the very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning and I would love to know more about the

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<v Speaker 1>way they train their sales people and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They clearly did what Ferrari dealers, these people who sell

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<v Speaker 1>three million dollar homes whatever, they've got to qualify their

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<v Speaker 1>customers right off the bat to figure out if they're

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<v Speaker 1>wasting their time or not. And he had all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of clever ways to try to get around to figuring it.

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<v Speaker 1>For like, I'm even possibly could be a person who

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<v Speaker 1>would buy a bed that they range from forty thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just talking to mattress. You got to get your

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<v Speaker 1>your actual bed frame is separate. That's the low end.

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<v Speaker 1>The low end is thirty eight grand, but with tax

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<v Speaker 1>would be forty thousand dollars. That's the cheapest. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>by far the most expensive mattress I've ever heard of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. We've done a lot of commercials for people

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<v Speaker 1>who so bed and usually like the most expensive mattress

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<v Speaker 1>you can get. You're talking like nine ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for just the over the top insane who buys this mattress.

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<v Speaker 1>The cheapest one they had at the store was forty grand.

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<v Speaker 1>It went up to eight hundred thousand dollars for a mattress.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless the support structure is gold bars. What the f

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<v Speaker 2>were we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a guess they profiled me on just

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<v Speaker 1>putting you having me lay down in a bed to

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<v Speaker 1>start with, because it's all about you know, pegging the negotiations, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in sales, it's a similar sort of way.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't want to put you in an unattainable number

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<v Speaker 1>to start with, because then you're going to be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that'd be my guess. There's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>a psychology to it, I would think anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I just went in what sense I mean, because

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<v Speaker 2>after laying down on the eight hundred thousand dollars one,

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<v Speaker 2>the three hundred and fifty thousand dollars one was jabbing

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<v Speaker 2>you in the back or what. It's all imaginary anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Well see that's the other part of it too, is

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<v Speaker 1>the and you know this about like wine, musical instruments, jewelry,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of things we sorts a liquor. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have control of our brains, no human does. You

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<v Speaker 1>do not have the ability to separate knowing what this

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<v Speaker 1>costs from what it actually tastes like, sounds, like drives

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever. You just can't it's impossible. And some people

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<v Speaker 1>get into the well it's expensive, so it's it's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be good thing in their brain subconsciously. Some people go

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<v Speaker 1>the other direction. I've known this crowd too, got to

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<v Speaker 1>this time I could get something for five dollars. It

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<v Speaker 1>days like good. Some people have to go the other direction,

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<v Speaker 1>or for whatever reason. You get all mixed up in

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<v Speaker 1>your head about you know how much of this is

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<v Speaker 1>imaginary or not? Which is fascinating, Yes, Katie.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I'm just listening, and I'm I'm still trying

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<v Speaker 3>to wrap.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to do. I've done out with wine

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<v Speaker 1>where people give me wine from a glass of wine,

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<v Speaker 1>a sipple, wine from a two hundred dollars bottle, and welly,

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<v Speaker 1>this tastes really good, but is it? In my imagination

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<v Speaker 1>it tastes really good? Being convinced that it is it

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<v Speaker 1>the label cool? Would I feel like a rube if

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<v Speaker 1>I said it tastes just like the other one? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, it's like, well no, go ahead, no you

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I've seen those things where they'll take, like

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<v Speaker 3>phronsiea boxed wine and put it into a really nice

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<v Speaker 3>bottle and then all of a sudden, your brain does

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<v Speaker 3>that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as my brother, the nuclear engineer, would point out,

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<v Speaker 2>the scale is not linear. The idea that a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars bottle of wine is separated by the same amount

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred dollars bottle of wine as one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and fifty to one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to two on up to you know, presumably a four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty dollars bottle of wine ought to be

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<v Speaker 2>as much better than a four hundred dollars bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>wine than a one to fifty is to a one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred to a fifty, and it's not. It's not even

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<v Speaker 2>remotely like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well right, so then if you're starting to cut it

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<v Speaker 1>down to a two hundred dollars bottle of wine is

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<v Speaker 1>five percent better than an eighty dollars wine, whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>better even means? There does the human mind have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to separate out the amount of money this is

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<v Speaker 1>from the marginal taste difference. I mean, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fine with your imagination and your ability to convince yoursel test.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a personality test.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really interesting. So then get getting to the bedding

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<v Speaker 1>on this whole thing. Is that eight hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>one is it?

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<v Speaker 2>You're supported by the brains of Nobel laureates that have

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<v Speaker 2>been preserved. I mean, I'm trying to picture what it

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<v Speaker 2>would be the eyebrow air of virgins with IQs over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty or with the hell it's hilarious, yea,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you justify that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, to a certain extent, it's art in the same

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<v Speaker 1>way that like really expensive mechanical watches. You're paying for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, you know, the handful of craftsmen on

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<v Speaker 1>Earth that can work with their hands and make these

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little parts, make a watch that will display the

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<v Speaker 1>moon phases and keep to the second over a year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a two hundred thousand dollars watch you're

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<v Speaker 1>paying for. You know that the artisanship of that, not

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<v Speaker 1>that it tells better time. The bet is similar that

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<v Speaker 1>way to a certain extent, and that at the upper

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<v Speaker 1>tier beds you have nine artisans he used that term

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<v Speaker 1>nine artisans. It takes them like almost a year to

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<v Speaker 1>make the bed. They sew all the fabric around it

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<v Speaker 1>by hand with certain kind of double stitching thread. Blah,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. The main thing with the betting itself

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<v Speaker 1>is it's horse hair, and horse hair has some properties

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<v Speaker 1>or some other bs. For some reason, there's a horse

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't that handy? And on the upper to your beds,

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<v Speaker 1>the artisans take the horse hair and straighten out it'ch

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<v Speaker 1>each individual hair. Oh oh for come sbs.

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<v Speaker 2>Calligula would be embarrassed by that. So let me get

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And these beds are according to my son mentioned and

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<v Speaker 1>rap song stuff like that, like they sort of rap

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<v Speaker 1>song where you talk about crystal champagne and driving in

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<v Speaker 1>your lambeau. They mention, uh, and Trump was a frequent

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<v Speaker 1>heston mention in that sort of song for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>living like Trump. So anyway, so I go into the store.

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<v Speaker 1>They somehow pegged me as the guy that should lay

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<v Speaker 1>on one particular bed. And then at one point he says,

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<v Speaker 1>so you read the New York Times article, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>aware with that. And he didn't say the cost. He

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<v Speaker 1>had some fancy term for the entry point or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, the investment in this world or something. I said, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what they cost. He said that bed you're

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<v Speaker 1>laying on. Well, first of all. So I have to

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<v Speaker 1>take off my shoes and my jacket, and I took

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<v Speaker 1>my glasses because I'm the only person in the store

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<v Speaker 1>and there's three people kind of working on me. And

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<v Speaker 1>they turn off the lights. Get to lay down to

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<v Speaker 1>the bed and they bring me a blanket and cover

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<v Speaker 1>me up and kind of tucked in and they get

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<v Speaker 1>a pillow behind my edge, and I took off my

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<v Speaker 1>shoes in my jacket and my glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Me.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you cuddle up next to me place? Yeah, spoon,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's spoon. I like to the little spoony half

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<v Speaker 2>an hour. Yeah, I'm the littlest spoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. This all experience was so entertaining. I was there

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<v Speaker 1>for like forty five minutes, and I was happy to

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<v Speaker 1>do it because I'd been wondering about this for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and it was my birthday. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to entertain myself. I had nothing on my schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, so I get under. They give me these

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<v Speaker 1>like little booties to put on, like really cool. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're like wool on the inside, booties that are

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<v Speaker 1>made of the same fabric of the bread the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>These beds are famous for being this blue and white

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<v Speaker 1>checkered pattern. That's like how you notice if you go

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<v Speaker 1>in somebody's house and you see that that they've got

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<v Speaker 1>one of those beds. So I got these booties on

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<v Speaker 1>that are that, and I'm laying down in the bed

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm getting tucked in and all that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. And I'm laying there and he said that

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<v Speaker 1>that bed you're in right there is six so ninety

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollars mattress and box springs, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to wrap your head around.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're still working the lower end.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say it felt better than any bed

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever laid on. I think, unless my mind is

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<v Speaker 1>tricking me, the thing that I mentioned to him was

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<v Speaker 1>my bed, and I've got a really nice bed. My

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder hurts from my motorcycle wreck all the time, minor,

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<v Speaker 1>not a big deal, but it always hurts laying in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how I lay in this bed, it did

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<v Speaker 1>not hurt at all. Now, is that my mind doing

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<v Speaker 1>a trick on me? Maybe? Who knows? Maybe the I

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<v Speaker 1>think at this level, the horse hairs have not been

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<v Speaker 1>straightened out by hand. They just stuff it full of

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<v Speaker 1>a certain kind of horse hair. Machines straightened, no machines

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<v Speaker 1>involved in anything. They're just still curling but very very

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<v Speaker 1>very comfortable bed. So there's no doubt about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I try a whole bunch of different beds because they

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<v Speaker 1>got firm and soft and this and that and different

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<v Speaker 1>things that different beds do, and put me in the

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight thousand dollars bed and uh, it still felt

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<v Speaker 1>really really good, but not quite as good as the

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six thousand dollars bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to hear about the parting of company,

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<v Speaker 2>but before I do a follow up, I remember when

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times article came out, we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this number one. I was confused, Katie. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was horrors hair that they had shorn the heads

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<v Speaker 2>of sex workers for this man cool you extra that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was, oh boy, and uh what was the Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that just flit it out of my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Horror's hair, I started.

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<v Speaker 2>I was picturing bald headed hookers and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>so distracting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>That the maintenance of these things. Yes, yeah, so are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the maintenances comes with the bed, So that's really

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<v Speaker 1>nice you throw in with the so the bed will

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<v Speaker 1>last you basically the rest of your life. If I

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<v Speaker 1>were thirty years old and made a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly justify that over that amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>replacing mattresses, you get close to breaking even for a

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<v Speaker 1>better sleep. Possibly you could. I don't know, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not thirty years old, and you know money is a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so U but yeah, you have to have them flipped

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<v Speaker 1>in massage two or three times a year. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the deal. They'll send a team of two

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<v Speaker 1>artisans to your house a couple times a year and

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<v Speaker 1>they will flip in massage your bed to get it back.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's always working at its ultimate. But you got

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<v Speaker 1>to make.

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<v Speaker 2>Her say that's what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>To know she's not a cop? Is that? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>how that works?

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<v Speaker 2>Joe stuck on Hookers flipped in massage?

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<v Speaker 1>Please?

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<v Speaker 2>I got that once in Thailand, the greatest night in

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<v Speaker 2>my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I lay down in all these different beds and

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<v Speaker 1>they are amazing, And so he said, would you like

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<v Speaker 1>to lay down on the fore Uner thousand dollars bed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one that Drake sleeps on and it's mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>in one of his songs. So I go lay down

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<v Speaker 1>in that bed, and this is just like I'm using

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<v Speaker 1>the words from the New York Times review because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember it. It was as if I was just floating

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<v Speaker 1>in air, like it was air pockets holding me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like like if enough air pressure had me up in

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<v Speaker 1>the air. It was as if nothing was touching my body.

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<v Speaker 1>If I you know, it was perfectly comfortable. It was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to describe it was. I don't know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's like I described, It's just if you're just

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<v Speaker 1>floating there, like if you were a weightless in space.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose that would would it would feel I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the Space Show. And I was just on my back,

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<v Speaker 1>like no points of pressure whatsoever of any kind. It

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<v Speaker 1>was wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Please try not to picture the poor shaved horses running

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<v Speaker 2>around fling exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just their skin showing. You know, cold it

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<v Speaker 1>gets some Sweden in the winter.

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<v Speaker 2>The horses, yeah, exactly, they're like those damn weird looking cats.

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<v Speaker 1>So the four thousand dollars bed was amazingly comfortable. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not. I don't know why I didn't. I just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't make myself even laid down. He said, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to try the one next to it, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred thousand dollars bed. And I just didn't. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to buy a four hundred thousand dollars mattress.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no point in me. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to waste your time. But I probably should have

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<v Speaker 1>laid down it. Would it have to feel twice as good?

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<v Speaker 1>What have I had? This is what I wonder the

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<v Speaker 1>second I lay down? Do I work on them a ted?

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<v Speaker 2>Get a little tiring? Honestly, see you're in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they let you keep the booties? Yes? Nice, I

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<v Speaker 1>think probably because my feet had been in them. But

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<v Speaker 1>and put them in a bag made of the same

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<v Speaker 1>material as the thing. So I got this cool tote

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<v Speaker 1>bag with the booties. I was pretty awesome. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe they probably do that for every Tom Dick or

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<v Speaker 1>Harry that walks in off the street course in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>and not a lot of Tom Dick and Ariess are

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<v Speaker 1>walking off the street unless they're you know, Tom the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO at Tesla.

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<v Speaker 2>And every Sundar Mark and Elon who walks in off

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<v Speaker 2>the street exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder how many of these beds they actually sell.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how many you need to sell to stay open. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a good question. I wondered about all that.

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<v Speaker 1>The business structure. I find that super interesting. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about it, Like how many, literally do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to sell a month to keep the doors

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<v Speaker 1>open and pay your salespeople? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think you probably sell the eight hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars one two, like rappers and singers who know

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<v Speaker 2>that rival singer has the four.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundreds in LA you do, and in this area it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably all tech people right right right in LA. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because he used to run the story in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>and that would be like movie stars. He said, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie stars and the rappers, they all they all

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<v Speaker 1>know about this brand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been among the very very successful. Fair amount

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<v Speaker 2>they tolerate me because I'm amusing, But I know if

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<v Speaker 2>nobody knows correct you're you're the super rich guy who

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<v Speaker 2>has the watch, the mattress, the car, then there's no

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<v Speaker 2>satisfaction exactly exactly. So what do you get like a

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<v Speaker 2>lawn sign with that checkering your pattern you're referring tour?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you let people know?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 1>I it's funny, I'm My life is the opposite, because

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<v Speaker 1>I said to the guy, said, if I ever bought

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<v Speaker 1>one of these, I couldn't tell a single person because

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<v Speaker 1>my my world is the opposite. Everybody I know who

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<v Speaker 1>knows me, family and friends of me like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you freaking knuts? You morons? They wouldn't react with, oh cool,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you fake? It'd be like you are a you

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<v Speaker 1>are an idiot? Right, would be the reaction of everybody

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<v Speaker 1>I personally hang out with. Uh, he said, you'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think that, But he said, eventually he gets a point,

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<v Speaker 1>and he brought up a TV show I forget was

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<v Speaker 1>a Netflix series where there's a dinner party among powerful

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody brings up, yeah, I got a bed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a Heston. You probably haven't heard of it. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I have, I have one too, And then everybody

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<v Speaker 1>at the table mentioned that they have a Heston bed.

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<v Speaker 1>So like among just like you were saying, among the

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<v Speaker 1>super powerful, it's kind of a Oh you're in the club.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the club too. We're in the club of

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<v Speaker 1>people who buy six figure mattresses.

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<v Speaker 2>See if I were them, I'd have like cloth of

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<v Speaker 2>napkins in that pattern, and you just have a dinner

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<v Speaker 2>party and you'd have those napkins and people would be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>as a Heston.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And also I was talking to my kids about that,

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<v Speaker 1>could I even have enough money that I would buy

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<v Speaker 1>a four hundred thousand dollar mattress? And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I could. I mean, I'm not a tax the billionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>You should feel guilty for your luxuries sort of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there's one child on earth that doesn't have something,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't justify having a four thousand dollars mattress. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just insane. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently, according to Forbes, they saw about sixteen thousand premium

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<v Speaker 3>beds a year.

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<v Speaker 1>The main model, the two thousand t I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their top selling model. That's the one that varies

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<v Speaker 1>between like forty eight and ninety six or something. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they sell mostly. But how many people could post?

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<v Speaker 1>What does he do with the people that come in

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<v Speaker 1>there that he figures out quickly can't afford one of

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<v Speaker 1>those beds, gives them the bums. Rusher tells him we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to close in five minutes. I'll bat Oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I know what happens because I've been in this

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<v Speaker 1>situation before. Because I'm often dressed like a hobo when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going places. Ah, do you have an appointment? This

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<v Speaker 1>is an appointment only store. So if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>make an appointment on our website and that just gets

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<v Speaker 1>you out of the store and then hopefully you figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what it costs before you ever make an appointment.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you walk in with a Jamba juice and

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<v Speaker 4>a radio station T shirt, yeah, that's probably what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Screams that you get out peasant. Well, you can't be

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<v Speaker 1>wasting forty five minutes on somebody who couldn't even conceivably

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<v Speaker 1>afford your your product. There'd be no point. Oh how

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<v Speaker 1>many people walk in the store per day? I was

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<v Speaker 1>there for forty five minutes. I was the only person

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<v Speaker 1>there the whole time. They might have locked the doors

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<v Speaker 1>after I was in there, for all I know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. So when Judy and.

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<v Speaker 2>I were in London, we stayed, Yeah, sure enough, we

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<v Speaker 2>stayed in Mayfa, which is like super high end expensive

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<v Speaker 2>shopping district. We're in actually a flat above a store,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are all these like arab oil shakes with

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<v Speaker 2>their six woman harems in their beekeeper outfits trailing after

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<v Speaker 2>them or going into incredibly high dollar shops, including perfume

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<v Speaker 2>stores in particular. But sure enough, I was curious and

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<v Speaker 2>there's the Hashton's not far. It's actually right at the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of Mayfair. I'll bet they do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>business with your oil money folks too.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably what an interesting luxury brand, though, isn't it? The Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the psychology behind it is as interesting to me as

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. The sure convincing you you're actually on a

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable bed along with the this makes me important

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, you know the thing that Joe was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about with the brand, so you can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mention it kind of in a whisper to other people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to do. I'd love it if they did

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<v Speaker 1>one of those blind tests with you know, your top

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<v Speaker 1>of the line Sealy Posterropedic or temper pedi or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>When you don't have in your mind that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the bed Drake Slip sleeps on or Jennifer Aniston is

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<v Speaker 1>another name, they're thrown away. If you didn't know that,

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<v Speaker 1>would you notice any difference. There's a famous thing that

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<v Speaker 1>came out a couple of years ago with top violin

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<v Speaker 1>players playing million dollar strads along with like a five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars violin and not picking the strat is the

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<v Speaker 1>best violin. When they didn't know ahead of time. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a blind test, so we're all it doesn't make you

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<v Speaker 1>stupid or weak or whatever. We're just all susceptible to that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's almost impossible to get that out of your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody but me, completely neutral. I'm completely neutral.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you. That's very handy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it is very handy. It's saved me a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money suits.

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<v Speaker 1>I I walked out of there. They wanted my email

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<v Speaker 1>address and my phone number and everything like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>they sent me a couple of proposals on the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand dollar bed and the forty eight thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>bed and they break down and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Proposals I propose, I give you money, you give me

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<v Speaker 2>the bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I can get back to them if I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's more complicated than that, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you got the mattress in not the

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<v Speaker 1>box spring, because it breaks down like the mattress was

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<v Speaker 1>like on the ninety six thousand dollars bed that I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked the way I felt my shoulder didn't turn.

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<v Speaker 1>So the mattress is like fifty thousand dollars, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the box spring was like twenty eight thousand dollars, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there was another like ten thousand dollars stand or

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<v Speaker 1>something it went on or something whatever, whatever adds up

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<v Speaker 1>to ninety six. And could you live without all those

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<v Speaker 1>other pieces? You don't know, Oh my goodness, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a while back as I was climbing the

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<v Speaker 2>ladder of wealth from the bottom rung to the middle

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<v Speaker 2>lower portion that I says to myself, if I says,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

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<v Speaker 1>Four hundred thousand dollars mattress, like you said earlier, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like a fifty thousand dollars pen. I mean, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>into hilariousville at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, on the other hand, of Drake swings by and

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<v Speaker 2>needs to spend the night. You know you'll feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You can sleep on my couch. Drake, you and your

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old girlfriend. I'm on team Kendrick Lamar. What

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<v Speaker 1>completely out of my depth? Now? You don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>Drake Kendrick Lamar battle. Drake is a into underage girls.

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<v Speaker 1>His favorite line in one of the songs Kendrick Lamar.

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<v Speaker 1>We were listening to this the other day. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>guess what key that song is a minor? Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good shot.

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<v Speaker 4>guess that's it.