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<v Speaker 3>AI enthusiasm is back as AMD rallies on a blockbuster

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<v Speaker 3>Forcus and nvidiaoting's a deal with fiber maker Corning. Plus,

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<v Speaker 3>Disney posts stronger results than expected thanks to improve profitability

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<v Speaker 3>and its streaming business, and we speak with Uber's CFO

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<v Speaker 3>as the right hailing platform posts a second quarter outlook

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<v Speaker 3>that also beat expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>First, we return to these markets that are risk on look.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of that has to do with geopolitics. There

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<v Speaker 3>is hope of a de escalation between Iran and the

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<v Speaker 3>United States. Could it's a deal be getting closer. The

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<v Speaker 3>market trades on that. Stocks rise higher, and indeed bon

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<v Speaker 3>yields pull back. We see a move in the dollar

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<v Speaker 3>two Oil on the down side means we're at one

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<v Speaker 3>point four percent on.

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<v Speaker 2>The nasat one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's a whole host of other news as to

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<v Speaker 3>why technology stocks are on top, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes from earnings and AI ambitions.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got AMD pumping up fifteen percent once again taking

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<v Speaker 3>the breath away from investors that not only are we

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<v Speaker 3>seeing GPU traction, but CPU is seemingly on fire, despite

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<v Speaker 3>of course also concerns about memory. We're still seeing growth

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<v Speaker 3>in that trajectory. And in Nvidia up four percent, managing

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<v Speaker 3>to play a bit of catch up after it's sold

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<v Speaker 3>off for the last few days.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's as they could do with Corning.

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<v Speaker 3>They could be buying up to five hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>worth of shares and it's all about optical fibers. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all about the AI data center too. So as TALKI

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<v Speaker 3>infrastructure with a man who's been doing it for years

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<v Speaker 3>in Kings with us in first AMD Lisa Sou managing

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<v Speaker 3>to show that the total addressable from a market for

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<v Speaker 3>CPU in particular really on fire as well as GPUs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now you're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>They put out earnings that were sort of pretty good,

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<v Speaker 5>not as maybe exciting as some had hoped and learn.

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<v Speaker 5>On the conference call, she gave a very bullish projection

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<v Speaker 5>for the CPU, which is one of their core parts,

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<v Speaker 5>part that's kind of been neglected in this AI race,

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<v Speaker 5>and said, look, things are really strong there and guess

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<v Speaker 5>what in this current quarter things are going to be

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<v Speaker 5>up seventy percent for that particular business, and that was

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<v Speaker 5>affirmation of what a lot of other companies have said.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I mean, how is she navigating some of the

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<v Speaker 3>issues that we've seen from a supply chain perspective, some

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<v Speaker 3>of the memory issue that of course hits the PC

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<v Speaker 3>side of the business.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean she got a lot of questions on

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<v Speaker 5>the conference call exactly on that point, as you would imagine,

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<v Speaker 5>and her answer was like, look, we've seen this coming,

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<v Speaker 5>We've been working really hard. Guess what if you're a

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<v Speaker 5>memberships player, you want to be selling this extremely expensive

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<v Speaker 5>memory to me and to data center. So don't worry,

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<v Speaker 5>we can meet our forecast, was what she was essentially

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<v Speaker 5>assuring people.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, AMD managed to pay off and we are seeing

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<v Speaker 3>them ramp up sales. But when you compare like an

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<v Speaker 3>eleven billion dollar guidance for the Core to coming compared

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<v Speaker 3>to well seventy billion dollars we expect from the like

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<v Speaker 3>sort of an Nvidia, it's still a second versus the giant,

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<v Speaker 3>and the giant making news to day in what did

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<v Speaker 3>you think about the deal with coreing Corning And once

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<v Speaker 3>again is this cirt killar financing in some way or

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<v Speaker 3>just making sure that AI infrastructure can get built.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Jensen would explain it as you did at

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<v Speaker 5>the Milk and conference this week, is like, look, we

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<v Speaker 5>are going to go out. We're going to use our

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<v Speaker 5>money to remove or to do our best to remove

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<v Speaker 5>any possible bottle neck that's out there. And fiber is

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<v Speaker 5>a big potential bottle neck going forward. Speed of light

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<v Speaker 5>is as fast as you can transmit information. Traditional copper

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<v Speaker 5>is reaching its limits. Guess what we need to make

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<v Speaker 5>sure we have a lot of fiber optic connections out

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<v Speaker 5>there for our forthcoming chips to keep this whole thing going.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's obviously been putting his money to work in

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<v Speaker 5>that kind of company as.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, company based right here in New York State and

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<v Speaker 3>King We so appreciate you out on the West coast

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<v Speaker 3>for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Let's speak about more of all of this

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<v Speaker 2>streny perjury is.

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<v Speaker 3>With US Semiconductor and Semi's equipment and this obviously capital

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<v Speaker 3>your latest note, can you highlight how am d strong

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<v Speaker 3>CPU growth doubling of projections is that achievable?

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<v Speaker 2>What could Chow call that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>Right now? The demand is very strong, you know, Agent

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<v Speaker 6>Ki is the primary reason. But overall, AI capex has

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<v Speaker 6>been going up as well. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 6>we're seeing strong demand on the enterprise you know, server

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<v Speaker 6>side as well. So I think in a part of

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<v Speaker 6>it is AI, part of it is in a traditional

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<v Speaker 6>server demand. Overall demand is very strong, and in addition

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<v Speaker 6>to that, you know, supply has been tight. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Intel talked about you know, not not having you know,

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<v Speaker 6>enough supply to you know, address the current demand. As

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<v Speaker 6>a result, you know, the visibility is extending, the backlog

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<v Speaker 6>is extending through the year, even into into next year.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think I think there's also the structural you know,

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<v Speaker 6>uh tailwind from you know, you know what we call

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<v Speaker 6>the CPU to GPU ratio. If you look at the

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<v Speaker 6>systems today in AI, typically it's one to four is

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<v Speaker 6>what we see. In some cases one too, but the

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<v Speaker 6>view is that that's going to go to one to one,

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<v Speaker 6>even you know, more than one to one.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, that will be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Tiny for our audience talk through that step function. It's

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<v Speaker 3>all about agent KI, It's all about the need for inference, right.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I mean, look in training workloads. You know, historically

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<v Speaker 6>we have seen you know, a CPU to GPU ratio

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, one to four, even in some cases

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<v Speaker 6>one to eight. And as we move to influencing, that

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<v Speaker 6>is changing, primarily because of agentic AI. And of course

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<v Speaker 6>you need to run the models still on you know,

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<v Speaker 6>powerful GPUs, but to manage you know, because users are

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<v Speaker 6>creating so many agents, to manage these agents, and to

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<v Speaker 6>make sure that agents are you know, getting the appropriate

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<v Speaker 6>data and they're talking to you know, other APIs. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>CPUs you know, play a critical role. So we are

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<v Speaker 6>seeing again it's early days. It's it's difficult to draw

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<v Speaker 6>you know, too many conclusions, but the trend is moving

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<v Speaker 6>in the direction of you know, that ratio improving in

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<v Speaker 6>favor of cp you. So you know, our view is

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<v Speaker 6>that at least you know, we have visibility based on

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<v Speaker 6>you know, some of the architectures that we have seen

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<v Speaker 6>from Nvidia and AMD and Google, et cetera. Into twenty

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<v Speaker 6>twenty seven. You know, it's moving in the in the

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<v Speaker 6>direction we think it's going to get to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>one to two by end of next year. But whether

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<v Speaker 6>it gets to one to one or even higher than

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<v Speaker 6>one to one, that remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I talk you about talk to you about valuations,

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<v Speaker 3>because when you look at AMD on a one year hr,

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<v Speaker 3>it's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at a new record high.

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<v Speaker 3>We're up three hundred percent over that one year basis,

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<v Speaker 3>we're up sixty more than sixty percent on the year,

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<v Speaker 3>and a new record high of look at six hundred

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<v Speaker 3>billion dollars market cap, that's nothing compared to the four

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<v Speaker 3>trillion of Nvidia. But when you start to get a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit anxious about where the stock trades, well.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, the valuation is rich, right, you know, and videos,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, trading in high teens. When you look at

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<v Speaker 6>calendar twenty seven members and AMD is probably trading close

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<v Speaker 6>to twice the multiple. It is at a premium. But

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<v Speaker 6>as you said, it's a smaller market cap name. You

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<v Speaker 6>could argue maybe it's growing faster because it's smaller in size.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, for US, I think CPU certainly helps

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<v Speaker 6>the short term, but longer term, if you look at

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<v Speaker 6>the GPU opportunity that's much bigger, I would say GPUs

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<v Speaker 6>probably we're talking including the custom chips, you know, a

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<v Speaker 6>trillion dollar type SAM and the CPU. As Lisa said,

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<v Speaker 6>it's about one hundred and twenty billion. It used to

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<v Speaker 6>be sixty, not too long ago. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>essential that AMD make progress on the GPU front. And

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<v Speaker 6>they've announced you know, new customers, you know, Open Ai

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<v Speaker 6>and Meta, and those customers are expected to ramp later

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<v Speaker 6>this year and into next year. So you know, that's

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<v Speaker 6>why we're we're actually sitting on the sidelines right now,

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<v Speaker 6>even though the demand is very strong because of valuation.

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<v Speaker 6>We want to see some evidence that you know, AM

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<v Speaker 6>they can actually gain and compete against Nvidia and gain

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<v Speaker 6>some incremental share as we go into next year.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's about execution for Lisa, Sue talk to us

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit about what we seeing in optical fiber

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<v Speaker 3>exuberance today as well. Corning up fourteen percent in video

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<v Speaker 3>saying look, I want I want to in on your

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<v Speaker 3>shares up to five hundred million dollars worth and the

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<v Speaker 3>right start purchase them. What can Corning bring to AI

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<v Speaker 3>data centers?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, at a high level, you know, AI demand is

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<v Speaker 6>putting pressure on connectivity. You know, you know it's one

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<v Speaker 6>thing to process the data, but you also need to

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<v Speaker 6>move the data at the super fast speeds, and the

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<v Speaker 6>demand has been so strong that you know, all those

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<v Speaker 6>connectivity you know, bottlenecks are emerging and optical plays a

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<v Speaker 6>key role in moving the data not only between you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the servers, but also between data centers. So you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we're seeing, you know, the supply constraints emerge across the board,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think in videos, what EN Video is trying

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<v Speaker 6>to do is make sure that you know, those supply

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<v Speaker 6>constraints are not going to limit their growth and they're

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<v Speaker 6>using their balance sheet strength. And that's one of the

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<v Speaker 6>reasons you know, we like n Video because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>they not only have the best products in the industry,

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<v Speaker 6>but also have the balance sheet strength. I think that

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<v Speaker 6>is a structural like vantage in an environment like this

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<v Speaker 6>where everything is so tight.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bec analyst Streni perjury. It's really great to have

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<v Speaker 3>your analysis on the show today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Indeed.

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<v Speaker 3>Meanwhile, sticking with all things chips, Germany's Infinian also reporting

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<v Speaker 3>earnings forecasting revenue of around four point eight billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>for its fiscal third quarter that did beat expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>The company is saying it's benefiting from spending moon on.

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<v Speaker 3>AI infrastructure, where it's power supply solutions for data centers

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<v Speaker 3>and very high demand. But as you see, the stock

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<v Speaker 3>has been under pressure in European trading like twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 3>they say on track to grow about ten percent coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Disney gets a profit boost from some successful sequels, improved

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<v Speaker 3>streaming results, and guests spending at their parks will dig in.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been by tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Check in on shares of Disney having their best day

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<v Speaker 3>in a year, currently up seven percent, the company posting

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<v Speaker 3>stronger than expected results thanks to improve profitability from its

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<v Speaker 3>streaming business and guests they're spending more at the parks.

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<v Speaker 3>Here discuss is Helen and Wang, which is Philip Securities

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<v Speaker 3>research analyst. You were impressed by the numbers and all

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<v Speaker 3>being given by the new CEO.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I think it's a pretty solid number of the

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<v Speaker 7>m ros first earnings both revenue and EPs pis estimate

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<v Speaker 7>and they've guided for twelve percent EPs girls for twenty

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<v Speaker 7>twenty six, so that's for the acceleration. So I will

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<v Speaker 7>say it's pretty good start for the new CEO.

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<v Speaker 3>Good start when actually we thought maybe things didn't look

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<v Speaker 3>so pretty when he first took up the reins. There

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<v Speaker 3>was Sora unraveling the deal with open Ai. There was

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<v Speaker 3>concerns with what's happening with Epic Games and their partnership.

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<v Speaker 3>But more broadly, how do you think the consumer is

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<v Speaker 3>feeling right now getting into the park, because we've got

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of micro headwinds.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, looking at their experience division, they are seeing a

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<v Speaker 7>slight decrease in their US parkeet so that is probably

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<v Speaker 7>something paired from the wall. So fewer for as far

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<v Speaker 7>as are traveling to the US, but we are seeing

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<v Speaker 7>guests spending more at the US parks. So per person

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<v Speaker 7>spending group five percent you're on year, So that means

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<v Speaker 7>people are spending more on the tickets, on the food,

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<v Speaker 7>on the merchandises. They're seeing very strong booking in their

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<v Speaker 7>Disney World. Another factor that's coming is they're seeing the

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<v Speaker 7>cruise ship having higher volume, probably because of the new

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<v Speaker 7>introduction of their Disney Destiny and Disney Adventure that was

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<v Speaker 7>introduced in March twenty twenty six, so that kind of

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<v Speaker 7>gives them a forty percent increase in cruise booking capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>I love how in your notes you really think about

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<v Speaker 3>the flywheel effect, the IP flywheel effect.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how this business makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that they've got new frozen experiences coming online.

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<v Speaker 3>They're investing in the IP and the entertainment but also

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<v Speaker 3>in the experience space, are you willing to take down

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<v Speaker 3>more of that investment at the moment because they have

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<v Speaker 3>spent a lot on cruises, they are updating the way

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<v Speaker 3>in which they're serving people at the parks.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, they're definitely investing very aggressively right now, but I

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<v Speaker 7>see it comes from a point of confidence because they're

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<v Speaker 7>doing so well in their current business, so they're trying

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<v Speaker 7>to expand more in order to lay out more on

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<v Speaker 7>the lanesom Girls Wrongway. So they're coming up with a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of major part expansion globally. They're coming up with

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<v Speaker 7>another new cruise ship in Japan, and they're also coming

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<v Speaker 7>up with a new scene part resulting Abu Dhabi. So

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<v Speaker 7>I guess the war impact is very minimum for them.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess it's a good thing because their unique value

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<v Speaker 7>is rooted in the strong brand, reputation and the flightway effect.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a really good point that even though

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<v Speaker 3>we've got conflict geopolitical anxiety in the Middle East, they're

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<v Speaker 3>still going ahead with what's happening in Abadabi. Just one

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<v Speaker 3>area of concern is just the cost of doing business

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to sports as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, ESPN did show that weakness.

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<v Speaker 3>There is that something that you also have to take

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<v Speaker 3>down in terms of investment.

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<v Speaker 2>They need the content, they need to win the rights.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, ESPN actually the increasing revenue because of the higher

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<v Speaker 7>subscription and affiliate fee due to their NFL transaction, But

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<v Speaker 7>it's definitely they're showing a decreasing operating income because of

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<v Speaker 7>the highest flora and production costs. But I guess everybody

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<v Speaker 7>in the streaming industry right now is trying to increase

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<v Speaker 7>their life sport because it's a large market, it has

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<v Speaker 7>a very loyal fan base that will always be there,

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<v Speaker 7>and everybody wanted the piece of that juicy pie and

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<v Speaker 7>sport where are so expensive right now, especially if you

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<v Speaker 7>want it as skill and Disney they already have the skill,

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<v Speaker 7>so I think even though the cost is a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit high for them, but they do have the advantage

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<v Speaker 7>in that sector.

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<v Speaker 2>Helena, it's great catching up with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for joining again, Helena Wang of Philip Securities. There

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<v Speaker 3>are all things Disney Now, it's time for talking tech.

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<v Speaker 2>First up, White House economic advice that Kevin.

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<v Speaker 3>Has It says a potential executive order is in the

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<v Speaker 3>works to provide a quote clear roadmap for AI safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the directive is taking shape.

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<v Speaker 3>Weeks off, Terranthropic revealed its mythos model that could pose

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<v Speaker 3>a global cybersecurity risk. Plus, Morgan Stanley is rolling out

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<v Speaker 3>cryptocurrency trading on his e trade platform, charging clients at

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<v Speaker 3>just fifty basis points, half the cost of some major

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<v Speaker 3>rivals like Robin Hood. So latest move in a massive

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<v Speaker 3>Wall Street pivot. The biggest banks are no longer just

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<v Speaker 3>watching the crypto space, looking to own it. And Samsung

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<v Speaker 3>has officially entered the trillion dollar club, making the firm

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<v Speaker 3>only the second Asian firm after TSMC, to hit that

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<v Speaker 3>one trillion dollar milestone.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The company's gain also pushed the Cosby Index past seven

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<v Speaker 3>thousand for the first time in history. Coming up, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be speaking with the Uber cfo Alargi, Christian

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<v Speaker 3>Murphy as as the Right Haling Platform posts a second

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<v Speaker 3>quarter outlook the beat expectations. We're talking all things AI

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<v Speaker 3>as well as delivery the Supremo Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>Checking in on shares of Uber company.

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<v Speaker 3>Reporting second quarter bookings outlooks the beat expector that we're

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<v Speaker 3>out eight point four percent as break down striving bookings

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<v Speaker 3>growth in particular, you' a CFOs with us Alergi Krishna Murphy, ALERGI,

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<v Speaker 3>talk to me about why we're amid the macro concerns,

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<v Speaker 3>amid maybe a slightly worrying environment with oil prices, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>You're still managing to push forward on bookings on demand.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Caroline.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think you know, if you think about our quarter,

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<v Speaker 9>the first thing I'd say is we're incredibly proud of

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<v Speaker 9>the pace with which our teams have been introducing new products,

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<v Speaker 9>and you would have seen just recently we at our

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<v Speaker 9>annual go Get event, we introduced a number of new

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<v Speaker 9>products and features that meet our customers where they want

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<v Speaker 9>to go, whether they're developed internally at uber or through

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<v Speaker 9>our partners like Expedia, we're bringing them best of breed solutions.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's setting us up for incredibly strong top line momentum,

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<v Speaker 9>and we delivered twenty one percent growth in the quarter.

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<v Speaker 9>This is the third successive quarter where we've done that

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<v Speaker 9>kind of a mark for the company, and we are

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<v Speaker 9>also in addition to those product innovations organically in our core,

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<v Speaker 9>we also reported that we were able to scale our

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<v Speaker 9>nascent autonomous vehicles business ten x here on year, which

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<v Speaker 9>is again a really good starting possession for us to

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<v Speaker 9>be at.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 9>We're doing all of this in a very choppy macro environment,

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<v Speaker 9>as you rightly pointed out. I'm happy to talk about

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<v Speaker 9>some of the detracting items there, but what we have

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<v Speaker 9>been doing as we get this growth, we've been focused

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<v Speaker 9>on extremely disciplined operations from a cost management standpoint, and

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<v Speaker 9>we're embracing AI increasingly to drive more efficiency for the company.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's allowing us to report EPs growth of forty

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<v Speaker 9>four percent here on you as well on top of

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<v Speaker 9>that twenty one percent and top line growth, and it's

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<v Speaker 9>setting us up really well for the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 9>And you see that in our outlook, which I think

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<v Speaker 9>met and exceeded expectations on both top and bottom line.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take into that Uber Expedia partnership.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only about a week old or so, and I

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<v Speaker 3>can understand that it's sort about adding hotel bookings, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this some sort of real uptick to subscriptions? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think in the longer term, how does it help

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<v Speaker 3>just bring more and more people back to the app

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<v Speaker 3>time and again?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, So I think the important thing to know

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<v Speaker 9>there is we think consumers who engage with our products

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<v Speaker 9>across our portfolio are incredibly valuable to us, and today

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<v Speaker 9>only about twenty percent of our monthly active consumers engage

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<v Speaker 9>across the platform on both mobility and delivery services, but

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<v Speaker 9>when they do, they drive significantly higher growth, bookings profits

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<v Speaker 9>for the company. And underpinning all of that activity for

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<v Speaker 9>US is our Uber one program, right, and we talked

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<v Speaker 9>about getting to about fifty million members as of this quarter.

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<v Speaker 4>We added about twenty million.

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<v Speaker 9>Members the last year alone, and now these members drive

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<v Speaker 9>fifty percent of our gross bookings for the company. When

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<v Speaker 9>you think about a partnership like Experia, what we are

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<v Speaker 9>trying to do is to expand the surface area of

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<v Speaker 9>what we consider cross platform and today's mobility and delivery

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<v Speaker 9>in the core. But hotels are a very adjacent opportunity

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<v Speaker 9>for US, where fifteen percent of our mobility gross bookings

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<v Speaker 9>comes from airport trips, forty percent of our US riders

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<v Speaker 9>take trips outside of their home cities, and then last

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<v Speaker 9>year we did one point five billion trips globally that

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<v Speaker 9>happened in outside users' home cities. So when you bring

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<v Speaker 9>in a program like this, it allows us to bring

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<v Speaker 9>the best prices to our consumers on hotel bookings from

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<v Speaker 9>experience platform, and in addition, we're giving them ten percent

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<v Speaker 9>cash back which is quite incredibly valuable, which they come

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<v Speaker 9>back and spend.

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<v Speaker 11>On our plot.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I talk about the B to B business?

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<v Speaker 3>You want it to become a ten million dollar plus

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<v Speaker 3>business briefly?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the growth markets for that?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>So very exciting trajectory there for us as well. We

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<v Speaker 9>noted that we're at now five billion in gross bookings

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<v Speaker 9>on that business and it's growing forty five percent relative

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<v Speaker 9>to that twenty one percent total that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 9>When you think about our B to B business, it's

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<v Speaker 9>effectively bringing ubers services across both mobility and delivery to

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<v Speaker 9>enterprise grade sort of modality to customers across the enterprise stack.

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<v Speaker 9>When we where we are today, we are at about

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<v Speaker 9>three hundred thousand organizations globally that are using our services

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<v Speaker 9>through this offering, and we do think that over time

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<v Speaker 9>we can service as many as a million organizations globally

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<v Speaker 9>and that would allow us to get to five get

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<v Speaker 9>from five to ten billion dollars there.

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<v Speaker 2>It was CFO Alergy.

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<v Speaker 3>Christian Murphy, thank you very much indeed for joining us

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<v Speaker 3>today on all things earnings. Let's turn our attention to

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<v Speaker 3>energy now, because Microsoft is considering delaying or abandoning is

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<v Speaker 3>ambitious clean energy targets. According to sources, the reason AI

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<v Speaker 3>race and most body four joins us for more on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Just spell out what the targets were for Microsoft, why

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<v Speaker 3>they were so perhaps over and above others in the space.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, you remember, there was a point in time where

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<v Speaker 12>we heard big companies talk a whole lot more about

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<v Speaker 12>the climate than they do now.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>Microsoft was one of these large tech companies. I was

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<v Speaker 12>quite vocal, and they said that we're going to match

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<v Speaker 12>one hundred percent of the energy we use in our

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<v Speaker 12>offices and data centers by putting clean energy back onto

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<v Speaker 12>the grid. That might be solar, battery, wind, stuff of

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<v Speaker 12>that nature. But of course these targets were set before

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<v Speaker 12>the AI boom, and now they're racing to get as

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<v Speaker 12>much power as they can and starting up gas power plants,

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<v Speaker 12>and so our understanding is that inside the company, there's

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<v Speaker 12>a growing sense that we're going to have to revise

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<v Speaker 12>and take back some of these ambitious climate targets that

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<v Speaker 12>were so important at least to our marketing.

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<v Speaker 3>You say, talks inside Microsoft are ongoing there's no final decision.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, you spoke to a spokesperson for the story

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<v Speaker 3>and talking about how they're continuing to look for opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>to maintain that annual matching goal. But look, they're not

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<v Speaker 3>commenting on the much tougher hourly commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a tell?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's one of these things that's quite wonky. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>I certainly had to learn a lot of these differences,

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<v Speaker 12>but matching on the annual level is not quite as

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<v Speaker 12>difficult because essentially, during the daytime there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 12>clean energy, largely due to solar. Matching your energy use

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<v Speaker 12>in the nighttime is the big challenge, especially because data

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<v Speaker 12>centers run twenty four to seven, and so you could

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<v Speaker 12>maintain your annual matching and it still sounds pretty good.

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<v Speaker 12>But what this is, and it's important to recognize, is

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<v Speaker 12>it's a step back on climate goals. Assuming they go

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<v Speaker 12>through with this decision, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Makes Brady ford the impact of AI, we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>With AI costs, open ai expects to spend fifty billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars on computing power in just this year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's according to the company's.

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<v Speaker 3>President, Greg Brockman, testifying in open AI's courtroom battle against

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk. Brockman also said he and other co founders

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<v Speaker 3>were concerned that Musk lacked the patients and AI understanding

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<v Speaker 3>to run the chat chypt maker. The trial continues today.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up Disney's bottom line. While it gets a boost

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<v Speaker 3>from some hit sequels, it got some what.

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<v Speaker 2>To come as well.

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<v Speaker 3>We're also talking about the streaming turnaround, resilient spending in

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<v Speaker 3>the parks.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a new CEO and it was pretty good news

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<v Speaker 2>to him.

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<v Speaker 3>As the stock reacts up to seven percent, the best

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<v Speaker 3>day for Disney in a year at least. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 3>about NASA one hundred one and a half percent the

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<v Speaker 3>socks again.

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<v Speaker 2>Chip stocks are on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>We see Nvidio inking deals of corning to ensure that

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<v Speaker 3>there's AI infrastructure supply, and AMD really impresses on its earnings.

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<v Speaker 2>This is brumbo tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to bloommeg tech. We have got techtogs in demand.

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<v Speaker 3>There's geopolitics at play. There's hope that there is some

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<v Speaker 3>de escalation between US and Iran and that plays into

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<v Speaker 3>the markets. But so two to earnings and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the nastag up one.

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<v Speaker 2>Point six percent.

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<v Speaker 3>We're a record high again for the tech heavy benchmark,

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<v Speaker 3>and we think about what's leaving the pack in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of points. There's a lot to do with earnings. I

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<v Speaker 3>dig into one of them. Disney currently having its best

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<v Speaker 3>day in a year, new CEO Josh Damara, able to

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<v Speaker 3>deliver strong results in particular. Look, we're up six percent

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 3>on the name. We're just rolling over from our previous peak.

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.360
<v Speaker 3>But this is all about a company that's getting more optimization,

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 3>more monetization from streaming in particular. And look, Bloomberg Intelligence

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.440
<v Speaker 3>is pointing to the strengthening growth outlook and more consistent

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 3>earnings trajectory. More broadly, as a company brushes off part

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 3>concerns with higher and exbra share guidance too. Keith Raganavin

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 3>from Bloemegg Intelligence joins us now and look, can you

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<v Speaker 3>talk about perhaps the anxiety going into this about the

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<v Speaker 3>consumer and they show resilience.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the box office? Is it the was working?

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<v Speaker 13>Everything seems to be working right now, Caroline. And of course,

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 13>coming into this quarter, there was a lot of concerns

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 13>about whether Disney would in fact lower their guidance for

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<v Speaker 13>the full year, and they did exactly the opposite, which

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 13>is why we're kind of seeing the shares really react

0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 13>with so much more confidence today. So, you know, on

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 13>the theme parks, which is sixty percent of total company profit,

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 13>we were expecting, you know, very very modest profit increase

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 13>for the fiscal second quarter. They actually outperformed with five

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 13>percent increase in profit, and you know, they attribute that

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 13>to pretty strong per capita spending, even though visitation was

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.639
<v Speaker 13>a little challenged, so international visitation to their domestic parks

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 13>has been heard by you know, a stronger dollar and

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 13>some of the geopolitical tensions. But despite that, they kind

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 13>of delivered. And really, I think the upbeat commentary for

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 13>the fiscal third quarter where they talked about, you know,

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 13>a pickup in demand and some of those attendance headwinds

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 13>kind of fading away, really lends credence to their very

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.399
<v Speaker 13>optimistic outlook for fiscal twenty twenty six and even fiscal

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<v Speaker 13>twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about what we're discussing at the top of

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 3>the show, the flywheel effect of the IP and how

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:14.439
<v Speaker 3>attractive it is that plays into the streaming into the content.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to listen to Josh Tomorrow on the call yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 14>We centralized television programming within Disney Entertainment DTC. So we're

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<v Speaker 14>programming for Disney Plus and Hulu while being smart about

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 14>window and content to linear so that we can expand reach.

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 4>And maximize monetization.

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 14>And we also integrated our games business into Disney Entertainment

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 14>and this creates new opportunities to cross promote franchises and

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:44.240
<v Speaker 14>use games to extend storytelling and ultimately develop new ip.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course was this morning not last night? My

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 3>days are a loss eitho when we're in earnings, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>interested as to what Josh did to convince about perhaps

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 3>his big epic games bet, the Fortnite bet that people

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<v Speaker 3>have been worried about to start of his reign.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so it's really, you know, as part of that

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<v Speaker 13>whole content strategy. Yes, you're right to point out video games,

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 13>and they're basically trying to create, you know, this one

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 13>stop shop really using Disney Plus as kind of the

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 13>hub for so many more products because you know, at

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 13>the end of the day, at Disney has such a

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.919
<v Speaker 13>fantastic product portfolio with of course streaming, but then you

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 13>have movies, and you have theme parks, and you have merchandise,

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 13>and you have video games, and it's really, you know,

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 13>Josh Tomorrow kind of setting the stage for achieving that

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 13>whole next phase of growth by leaning more heavily into

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 13>that Disney Plus experience. Right with video games, you have

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 13>access to a whole new audience, a much younger audience,

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 13>you know, whom you can sell into. And that's exactly

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 13>what he's planning to do. But it's really about reintegrating

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 13>the content engine as a whole. And I think he

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 13>did a pretty good job of convincing investors that he

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.200
<v Speaker 13>knows exactly what he's doing and he has a plan

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<v Speaker 13>in place.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're all excited for Devils product.

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 3>Too, if you haven't already seen it, but took us

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 3>to another place where content is coming. Warner Brothers Discovery

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 3>got their earnings after the Bell.

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, So for Warner Brothers, it's just such a completely

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 13>different story. I mean, I think, you know, fundamentals their earnings.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 13>That's a little bit of a sideshow here. It's all

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 13>about M and A. We do know that one of

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 13>the numbers that we're going to be looking for as

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 13>the street will be is at TV advertising revenue and

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 13>advertising revenue in general. We do expect a pretty dismal

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 13>quarter if you would you if you can call it

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 13>that for TV advertising, just because Warner Brothers Discovery lost

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 13>its rights to the NBA, and so that is definitely

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 13>going to have a huge impact. But other than that,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 13>any color that you know they can offer, just generally

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 13>from an M and A perspective, although I doubt they

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 13>will do that.

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a busy timmy if you too, Thrang and app

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.719
<v Speaker 3>and we so appreciate you of Bloomberg Intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's stick with those earnings.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 3>We're getting back to MD why because it's the biggest

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 3>points contributor on the nasat one hundred, that a record high.

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>It shares a record high. We're up seventeen percent.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Bluebag's Round for Stelca has been writing about well, some.

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Of the competitive threats that are coming in video's way.

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's go in on AMD because this isn't actually just

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:07.879
<v Speaker 3>a GPU story, this is CPU story. This is about

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 3>a total addressable market that doubles.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good morning, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 15>So what I would start with is that AMD coming

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.639
<v Speaker 15>into this report was coming off its biggest one month

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 15>gain since the dot com era, so expectations were really

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 15>elevated for this report. And even with that, it really

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 15>just blew everyone away. Very strong results, very strong forecast.

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 15>At least a couple of upgrades I saw, including from

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 15>Goldman this morning. People were very impressed by their ability

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 15>to draw like really impressive growth and really sort of

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 15>establish themselves as a major player within AI.

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Some of the price target changes were actually I watering.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I think some of them.

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 3>First Team were doubling their price target on AMD, so

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 3>big moves. Ryan, what about in video playing a bit

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 3>of a catch up today, because you've been writing a

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 3>lot about how maybe it's been beaten up when the

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 3>rest of the market, in the socks at least, have

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 3>gone up into the we've been worrying about competition.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, truly interesting is if you look at the socks,

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 15>it's up I think about sixty percent since late March. However,

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 15>in Vidia, the biggest company really in the world, certainly

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:14.479
<v Speaker 15>the biggest semiconductor company, really hasn't been participating in that

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 15>rally to the same degree. And it does seem like

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 15>there is a growing appreciation that a couple of years

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 15>ago it basically had a monopoly on AI chips. Now

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 15>we are seeing more and more people come into this market,

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 15>including some of Nvidia's biggest customers. So Alphabet last week

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 15>talked about how it's going to start selling its TPU

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 15>chips to other clouds. Those are specifically designed for AI applications,

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 15>so there is a lot of demand for them. People

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 15>even view them as superior to in Nvidia products in

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 15>certain use cases. Amazon has its own chip, Meta is

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 15>developing its own chip. Microsoft is These are all of

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 15>Nvidia's biggest customers. So while it is dealing with competition

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 15>from the likes of AMD, Intel, Qualcom, all these sort

0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 15>of traditional chip makers, it is also seeing more aggressive

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 15>moves into the space from its biggest customers. Like I said,

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 15>Alphabet probably being the most notable one. Certainly people are

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 15>starting to wonder what does this mean for Nvidia's growth, margins, pricing, power,

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 15>market share, all of that if we start to see

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 15>some of its biggest customers looking to reduce their reliance

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 15>on Nvidia.

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Most ran Laselca.

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<v Speaker 3>We thank you very much for the round up on

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>chips and let's stick with chips. The semiconductor market is

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 3>on track to hit one trillion dollars, but global tensions

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>rising demand of forcing the chip supply chain to adapt.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 3>That's the focus of this week's episode of Bloomberg Primer,

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Take a look.

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<v Speaker 2>AI is booming.

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 3>AI chips accounted for more than one quarter of all

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 3>chips sold in twenty twenty five. That figure is expected

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 3>to reach more than half by twenty twenty nine. Chip

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 3>demand is no longer dictated by which new iPhone or

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 3>PC will have customers lining up.

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<v Speaker 16>What has changed over the years in the semiconductor industry

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 16>is since we're seeing such a surge in the need

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 16>to build data centers for AI deployment and applications, we're

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 16>seeing a more sustained growth period in semiconductors as opposed

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 16>to the old fashioned sickle call when we used to

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 16>have Intel come out with chips that everybody had to

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 16>upgrade their computer for.

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Spending on AI infrastructure like data centers is projected to

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 3>soon cross the one trillion dollar mark.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 2>So the demand for these chips is there.

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 3>There's just one maybe not so nanoscopic problem. How concentrated

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 3>is too concentrated for this supply chain. Here more from

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>the team at Bloomberg Originals on today's episode of Primer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Tonight Bloomberg six pm ET or on Bloomberg Originals

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 3>at eight pm New York time. Now, sticking with chips,

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 3>let's take a look at today's big number, fifty five

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>billion dollars. That is how much SpaceX is estimating elomusks

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Terrafab chip factory will cost to build along with Tesla's

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>according to a public notice which shows the estimated total

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.959
<v Speaker 3>capital investment could actually write to one hundred and nineteen

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 3>billion and the additional phases of the project are completed.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Coming up, Apple going to let users choose their own

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 3>AI models across iOS twenty seven. More on that next,

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>As Broomberg tech cool and I was trying to turn

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 3>its devices into a comprehensive AI platform with the iOS

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, this full users will be able to choose

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>from multiple outside AI models like Google's Gemini or own products.

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Claude Bloomberg, Mark German is here with us, and Mark

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>is it trying to be agnostic here in some way?

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 4>In some way it's trying to be agnostic.

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<v Speaker 17>But what it's really trying to do is understand where

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 17>it's at in artificial intelligence. And if you look at Siri,

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 17>you look at the Apple intelligence capabilities, there are nowhere

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 17>up to par what you're seeing on Android. What you're

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 17>seeing from competing devices, what you're seeing from CHADGBT, Claude,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 17>you name it, so they recognize that. So the name

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 17>of the game is making the default offerings, right, Siri,

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 17>Apple Intelligence competent and good enough. Right in the same

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 17>way that the built in apps on an iPhone are

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 17>competent and good enough. But then you have an app

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 17>store where you can outfit your iPhone with a bunch

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 17>of apps that many people consider superior. But you're still

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 17>using an iPhone, and you're still driving services revenue to Apple,

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 17>and obviously the harder revenue because they're buying you're buying

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 17>their products, and so in the same way, they want

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 17>to make the AI stuff good enough, but also offer

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 17>customers the ability to put their own choice of AI

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 17>models on top of features or to power certain features.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 17>So you're still using an iPhone, and maybe you're even

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 17>making them more money by subscribing to different AI services

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 17>like chat GPT or Geminii their platform, which they'll get

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 17>a cut of through the app store.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 2>So at the moment mark you can interact with chat GPT.

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 3>That sort of got the first in with Apple across

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>some of its functionality, but when it comes to sery.

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 3>We understand that it's alphabets technology that they're sort of

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 3>turning towards.

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Where are we going to see and feel it differently?

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 4>So there's a couple of things going on here, right.

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 17>So Apple Intelligence when it first launched in twenty twenty four, Siri,

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 17>that was based on Apple models, but there was what's

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 17>called an extension to be able to tap into chat GPT.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 17>Now Apple's rebuilding Siri, so it's in house Siri using

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 17>Google Gemini models, but that doesn't have Google Gemini functionality.

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 17>It's basically like they hired the engineers from Google to

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 17>fix Siri because you know, obviously they're doing a better

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 17>job building their models. But now in addition to chad GPT,

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 17>you'll be able to tap into outside AI sovices, Gemini

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 17>being one, Claude being another. And we'll see if they

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 17>end up allowing meta Alexa.

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 4>And you name it.

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<v Speaker 17>In terms of when this is all coming, So they'll

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<v Speaker 17>introduce these new features as well as the Revampseiri in

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<v Speaker 17>June on the eighth at WWBC, and they'll roll it

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<v Speaker 17>out in September, and I think if it rolls out

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<v Speaker 17>any later than that, another disaster on their hands.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think this is going to happen this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this going to be enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this Apple being In the longer term, I'm making

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<v Speaker 3>the decision that they are just going to outsource this.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's start with the short term.

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<v Speaker 17>In the short term, if you're a customer, if you

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:10.840
<v Speaker 17>really can't ask for more.

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 4>Other than to have access and have optionality to have anything.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 17>As Gemini improves, as Cloud improves, chat youpt improves, you're

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 17>going to get the best stuff on an iPhone. So

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 17>from a customer standpoint, that's great. From a long term standpoint,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 17>I still think that Apple needs to get improved models.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 17>They need to be on the frontier of things when

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 17>it comes to AI, because they have all sorts of

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 17>hardware plans in the future, and if you're a hardware

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 17>company like Apple, you don't want to be reliant on

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 17>third parties to power the underlying AI powering those products.

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 17>So in the short term they're going to be great.

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 17>In the long term, they need to get things moving

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 17>in a far better, more competitive direction.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're likely therefore to see more of these announcements coming.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 3>And you as always set us up for what to

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 3>anticipate with Apple Rumg's Mark gum and in some Frantsisco

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.479
<v Speaker 3>on all things Appleine and integration of AI.

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm but used to say. Now though, we can get

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 2>back out to.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 3>The Milkene conference in California where Bloomberg's Joe Matthew and

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Krol Masser are sitting down with Kathy would have ARC.

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Let's listen in.

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<v Speaker 18>All right, Paul and Scarlet, thank you so much. We

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 18>welcome everybody on Bloomberg Radio, Bloomberg TV, across Bloomberg platforms. Yes, indeed,

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<v Speaker 18>Carol Masser, Joe Matthew here at the milk and Institute

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 18>Global Conference. We have a special guest. And I feel

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 18>like reading in this morning, the headlines were made. It's

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 18>like they knew Kathy was going to join us. Kathy

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 18>would CEO, CIO and of course the founder of ARC invest.

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<v Speaker 11>It's so nice to talk with you again. Thanks, delighted

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 11>to be here. You gave me my big break in

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 11>twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 18>I'll never forget that. Well, it's so funny because I

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 18>want to talk to Elon because you kind of put

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 18>him for me on the radar, and I just feel

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 18>like it was a time when so many people questioned

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 18>what he was up to now, everybody is so excited

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 18>about the SpaceX ipo. We see increasingly how he's kind

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 18>of melding his universe together. Tell us about kind of

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.280
<v Speaker 18>that bet. And even today we have that he's building

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 18>a chip factory at least fifty five billion in investment,

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 18>maybe as much as almost one hundred and twenty and

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 18>he's doing this chip factory SpaceX with Tesla. How are

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 18>you looking at Elon right now and what his next

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 18>era is.

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<v Speaker 10>So this is why I founded ARC invest.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 11>We knew that the seeds that were planted in the

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 11>twenty years that ended in the bubble, they've been germinating

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 11>for twenty twenty five years and now they're flourishing. And

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 11>what we're seeing is fifteen different technologies evolving and they're

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:36.879
<v Speaker 11>all converging. And Elon, about six months ago, and we've

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 11>been using the word convergence for a long time, he said,

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 11>you know what, I think, my companies are converging more

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 11>than even I understood. And so we're seeing of course

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 11>SpaceX XAI, rumors about Tesla, and really he believes that

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 11>in the new world, or to create the new world,

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 11>a company has to be vertically integrated, and so that's

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 11>what's happening here. He is moving into incredible vertical integration

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 11>as he moves data centers into space.

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 18>Is it all about our Bloomberg intelligence? George Ferguson cover Space,

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 18>covers Defense, but he said, it's all about Elon controlling

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.800
<v Speaker 18>the supply chain. Kathy, But I do feel like globally

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 18>we're seeing countries companies really thinking about their supply chain.

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 18>Is that part of his strategy?

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 10>Absolutely? Absolutely?

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 11>And also when a company is breaking new ground literally

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 11>in this case, and really inventing something, the supply chain

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 11>doesn't exist very often or not all parts of it exist.

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 11>And I think also as he's discussing where he's going

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.840
<v Speaker 11>and how he's going to do it, he is getting

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 11>the supply chain ready.

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 7>You know.

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 10>He always sets.

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 11>The time frame, you know, much sooner than most people

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 11>would expect. But it's to get his employees and the

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 11>supply chain focused, because when he moves.

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 10>He moves fast.

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<v Speaker 8>You've really helped to define people's perception of Elon Musk

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 8>and the company Tesla largely as one that is not

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 8>about making cars, but one that's about autonomy and robotics.

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 8>When you walk out the Hilton here, different than where

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:26.439
<v Speaker 8>I live in Washington, DC, driverless weaymos are picking people

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 8>up and driving away with them all day long. The

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 8>mainstreaming of autonomous vehicles is just about here. I'd like

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 8>to know if you see that actually fulfilling itself in

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 8>the next year, and if this is a zero sum

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:43.240
<v Speaker 8>game or you're going to have Uber, Weimo, Tesla all involved.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, this is where vertical integration comes back into the conversation.

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 10>In the robotaxi world.

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:56.479
<v Speaker 11>Tesla's vertically integrated and has created the platform upon which

0:39:56.480 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 11>others will build their companies. So I credit our team,

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 11>So Tasha, Daniel, Brettwinton. We have been focused on this

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:13.280
<v Speaker 11>from day one twenty fourteen when I founded ARC and yes, slowly,

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 11>slowly than all at once. So vertical integration for Tesla

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 11>means it will have the lowest cost structure by far.

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 11>Now it's going to use Uber's umbrella here three dollars

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 11>plus per mile, but if our analysis is correct, those

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 11>costs as robotaxis scale are going to drop to twenty

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 11>five cents per mile.

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 10>Think about it.

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 11>The cost of transportation is going to collapse here.

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:45.240
<v Speaker 10>And no one Waimo's cost structure.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 11>According to our estimates in twenty thirty will be fifty

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 11>percent higher than Tesla's because they're dependent on other auto

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 11>manufacturers and others in the supply chain that Tesla is not.

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<v Speaker 18>How are you thinking about the SpaceX IPO, Kathy? Do

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 18>you anticipate there's so much enthusiasm going into it, massive size,

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.240
<v Speaker 18>massive interest. But do you think there'll be a drop

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 18>off initially after you know, once it makes its public

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:17.440
<v Speaker 18>debut and then ultimately kind of play out like Tesla

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 18>did that eventually it goes up again, Like how do

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 18>you see the trajectory?

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 10>Right?

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<v Speaker 11>So this is only at least what we know so far,

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 11>seventy five billion dollars. There is so much demand out there.

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 11>We have in our venture fund, so ARKVX SpaceX is

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 11>the largest position. And because we're direct to consumer when

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.839
<v Speaker 11>it comes to venture, although the fund has scaled north

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:46.439
<v Speaker 11>of eight hundred and fifty million, investors had to look

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 11>for us and how did they find us? They were

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 11>looking for SpaceX. So the demand is voracious out there.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 11>Only seventy five billion. Yes, it's a big IPO, but

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 11>just think about how SpaceX has reawakened the dream of

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 11>space exploration. This has captured the imagination not just of

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 11>investors but really everyone.

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 18>So does that mean you don't think it'll fly? You

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 18>think the animal will continue? Do you think there will

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 18>be some settling it.

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 11>I think there'll be supply demand imbalance in the beginning.

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 11>You'll see that pop. It will be volatile, I would imagine,

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 11>But we hope to serve in terms of providing our research.

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 11>We've already got a SpaceX model out there on our

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:37.440
<v Speaker 11>site art dash invest dot com. We have not added

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 11>data centers orbital data centers in however, our preliminary work

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 11>suggests that that part of the business could take relative

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 11>to our existing model, could take Tesla from a revenue

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 11>generation point of view, orders of magnitude higher, ten twenty

0:42:56.880 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 11>times higher.

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 18>I'm so glad you went there. Data centers and space,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 18>and I mentioned before we got going it came up

0:43:02.080 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 18>on a real estate panel where so many of the

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 18>real estate investors, even like related companies, has switched their

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 18>focus to data centers. But we brought up data centers

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 18>in space. What does that mean though? Then, for all

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 18>of the data center build out and money that is

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 18>happening here on Earth, does that mean a lot of

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 18>that goes away? There's a little bit of a bubble,

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 18>like how do we reconcile.

0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 11>That we think And this is the important judgment call.

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 11>Is this hype? Is this nineteen ninety nine? I can

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 11>tell you unequivocally it is not. As I mentioned, the

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 11>seeds were planted. Then now we're ready, and we think

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 11>this technology revolution is going to dwarf the industrial revolution

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:47.879
<v Speaker 11>by far. So I think that we'll need the orbit

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 11>bild data centers. And of course Elon is informed by

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 11>his experience in Memphis, Tennessee and now Mississippi. Memphis became

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 11>not in my backyard, You're increasing my tricity prices and you're.

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 10>Ruining our land.

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 11>So he's basically saying, I'm not going to have to

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.720
<v Speaker 11>worry about not in my backyard in space.

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 18>But does it make a bubble of the stuff on?

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 11>We don't think so. I don't think so. We think

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 11>we're going we need all of it.

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 18>Yep, Sorry, I know I'm dominating.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean you guys should walk away with this.

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 8>Go to ask you about something that took place today.

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.239
<v Speaker 8>You woke up and saw your third largest holding just

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 8>go through the roof in AMD another blow the doors

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 8>off quarter and it's really creating this question now about

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 8>whether we should be paying a lot more attention the

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 8>market is to CPUs after GPUs went crazy. We're looking

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.959
<v Speaker 8>at people take money out of Nvidia now and chase

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 8>stocks like A M D. Do we need both or

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:49.439
<v Speaker 8>is that where you're looking?

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 10>We think we need both.

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 11>I do think there is more competition. We want it,

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 11>we need it. But it was interesting Sarah Fryar at

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 11>open A. I'm going to give her a shout out

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 11>because I heard her speak and she she was saying,

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 11>you know, people are chasing GPUs. They're they're going to

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 11>be really shocked at how Agent k Ai activates CPUs

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:20.279
<v Speaker 11>and infernt generally activate CPUs. Yesterday, Lisa Sue provided a

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 11>stat we had never heard before. Right now, for every

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 11>for every CPU, there are four to five GPUs when

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 11>it comes to enabling AI. Lisa thinks it's going to

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.879
<v Speaker 11>go one to one in the future. I think that

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 11>has been the sleeper and you see Intel has taken off.

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 10>In fact, we're seeing a lot of stocks that were

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 10>you know.

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 11>They were very big in the bubble. And I just

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 11>said to our team today, I said, what's going on.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 11>We're going back to the future. You know Intel resurrecting

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 11>Yes and Flextronics is.

0:45:55.600 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 10>Now called flex boom. So I think we need.

0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 8>It all not to mention data storage, which has been

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:08.320
<v Speaker 8>one of the most remarkable examples of a shortage creating

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:09.240
<v Speaker 8>a monster rally.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:10.280
<v Speaker 10>So you need these.

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 8>Old fashioned chips Yes to get to this new fashion AI.

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 10>All hands on deck.

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 18>We want to ask you about a story that came

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 18>out Google Microsoft to give US agency early access to

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 18>AI models. So basically the White House vetting AI models

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 18>this good are bad?

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:30.439
<v Speaker 11>And knowing this administration and David sachs our ais are.

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.839
<v Speaker 11>I don't think we're talking about heavy regulation here. We

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 11>might be talking more about national security. National security we

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 11>heard this with Metho's. You know, software that has not

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 11>has been a place for sixty years and never been penetrated.

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 11>AI can find these vulnerabilities. So they're probably trying to

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.960
<v Speaker 11>tighten up a lot of what we do out there

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 11>and make sure that our industries are safe.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 8>Bring a political implication though, to what may or may

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 8>not be available to people if the White House is

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 8>choosing which platform we ought to use.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 11>Now you know what's interesting, and this is taking a

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 11>leaf from Open AI in its early days GPT, you

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:16.439
<v Speaker 11>are saying, we don't think we can release this, this

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<v Speaker 11>is too powerful. Is great marketing. It's true that it's

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<v Speaker 11>very powerful, but it's also great marketing. A lot of

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<v Speaker 11>the people at Anthropic came from Open Ai, so while

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<v Speaker 11>they're blazing trails, no question about it, and they're leapfrogging

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<v Speaker 11>one another, which is great. Competition is great for US here,

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<v Speaker 11>including competition from China.

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<v Speaker 10>I think that you know we're on our way.

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<v Speaker 18>I want to ask you about stable coins tether and

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<v Speaker 18>their potential. Do you think it has a chance to

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<v Speaker 18>become big in the US under the Genius Act? And

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<v Speaker 18>you've also invested in Circle, are you looking at other

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<v Speaker 18>stable coin related players beyond that? Crypto Bild tell me

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<v Speaker 18>there's a lot going on right now.

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<v Speaker 10>It is a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 18>It's a big meeting at mor Lago. Like I know

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<v Speaker 18>a lot of crypto folks.

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<v Speaker 11>They tell us well, and you know, in the last election,

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<v Speaker 11>I do think the crypto community was very was part

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<v Speaker 11>of the swing factor because they knew deregulation would take

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<v Speaker 11>place under this administration. That's absolutely true. So yes, we're

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<v Speaker 11>seeing the deregulation. You know, is this is creating a

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<v Speaker 11>new financial world order. Many people think the dollars should

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<v Speaker 11>be going down because of our deficit and debt and

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<v Speaker 11>all of that.

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<v Speaker 10>And what we're seeing here in the United States is.

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<v Speaker 11>Deregulation, tax cuts, and a very business friendly, very business

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<v Speaker 11>friendly administration. We think the return on invested capital is

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<v Speaker 11>going to go up in the US generally, and we

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<v Speaker 11>think that the crypto revolution we were at risk of

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<v Speaker 11>losing it. Yeah, and yes, we do think USAT has

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<v Speaker 11>a shot.

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<v Speaker 18>You do, Yes, all right, I'm not gonna have like

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<v Speaker 18>IM just a million more questions. Who's doing Kathy, thank

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<v Speaker 18>you so much, really.

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<v Speaker 10>Appreciate it, and thank you really so much.

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<v Speaker 18>Really appreciate it. Kathy would of course, she's the CEO,

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<v Speaker 18>CIO and of course founder of arc in Vest. Someone

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<v Speaker 18>like I said, it was ten years ago, yes, that

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<v Speaker 18>we first started talking, yes about Elon Musk's so really

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<v Speaker 18>tremendous to catch up with her again. And I feel

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<v Speaker 18>like we we didn't even talk about alphabet, which I

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<v Speaker 18>know was a great call for you before earning.

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<v Speaker 8>Before earning.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, believable