1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: The next time you see this Catholic bishop on television 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: or the internet pointing a finger judging, remember something. Christ 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that, but a politician would. And politicians with 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: clerical collars have historically been very dangerous people. And this 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: man speaking of danger seems like someone we all ought 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. Today, I'm going to talk 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: about a grave threat facing the country. Now, there are 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: some people who say this danger isn't real, it's so called. 9 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: They deny its existence. And this denialism fall somewhere between 10 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: delusional and sinister, because the threat that I'm going to 11 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: talk about is very real. The threat is nationalism. But 12 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: there's a very specific derivative type of nationalism that is 13 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: American in character. National socialism was very German in character, 14 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: the torchlight parades, the vast rallies, they were Teutonic in nature, 15 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: an esthetic effect. America is a different society, a different culture. 16 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: So the nationalism we are going to talk about today 17 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: is Christian nationalism. And let's distinguish between Christianity and Christian nationalism. 18 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: Christianity is a faith of peace and love. Christian nationalism 19 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: is a political dogma of violence, subjugation, and death. A 20 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: Christian nationalist is a contradiction. The word itself is a 21 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: perversion of language because the two are repellents opposites put 22 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: together to describe something that is unholy. What is it? 23 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: How should you think about it? Well, think about it 24 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: like this. Imagine an Islamic nationalist. What would that be? 25 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: It would be Isis or the Taliban. And that's what 26 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Christian nationalism is. I do my best to explain it 27 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: in a new movie that has just appeared and is 28 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: streaming across all platforms starting today. That faith. Here's what 29 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: I say about Christian nationalism, and there's nothing to do 30 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: with with Christianity. It's about it's about power and politics, 31 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: and let's separate it from religiosity. In this country, we 32 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: have freedom of religion, where a secular nation that is 33 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: built by, sustained by, and filled with people who have 34 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: deep faith in God. But that's not Christian nationalism. There's 35 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: a fictional work Margaret Atwood book called The Handmaids Kim 36 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: that's Christian nationalism. It's man saying that this is God's 37 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: law in administering it for the purposes of achieving absolute 38 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: political power, and the societies that practice it in whatever 39 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: form it takes are the most evil places on earth. 40 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a story today about a danger, 41 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: about a political hit job, about an act of intimidation 42 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: that came from an unlikely place. I'm going to expose 43 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: to you something today that sinister, no good, and ugly, 44 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: and I'm going to lay it out in detail. It's 45 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: a story about a journalist, a Catholic bishop, a political extremist, 46 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: and the Attorney General of Washington, d C. But more 47 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: on that in a minute. What I'm going to attempt 48 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: to do today is to be a guide. Look at 49 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: this image of a river. What do you see? Do 50 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: you see uniformity in the water? Can you see the current, 51 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the eddies, the pools where the fish are. Each river 52 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: moves at its own pace. And for a person who 53 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: knows the river, they can see its language, they can 54 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: see its movements, they can see its contradictions in all 55 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: that is happening. To the untrained eye, it just looks 56 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: like water, but it's not. There's so much going on 57 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: on the surface and below the surface. Think about the iceberg. 58 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: Only a small part of it is visible above the waterline. 59 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: The vast mass remains invisible. Let's start with something that's important, 60 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: and let's put a nail into it and make sure 61 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: that there is no space, no room for denialism. When 62 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: we talk about Christian nationalism, it is real, it exists, 63 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: and it is a profound danger. It has killed many 64 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: times in America. Let me show you Christian nationalism. This 65 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: is what Christian nationalism is. It is death. This is 66 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City and this is the Christian nationalist Timothy McVeigh 67 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: and his partner Terry Nichols. All over America there are 68 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: compounds filled with fascist Christian nationalist extremists that are heavily 69 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: armed and are training for civil war. There's a Frontline 70 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: documentary that highlights it. It ends with the documentarian walking 71 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: a fence line. On the other side of it is 72 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: the sound of automatic weapons fire. It's General Flynn's compound 73 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: and the people in it are training for civil war, enduring. 74 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: What sounds like automatic weapons from not very far away. 75 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: General Flynn talks about this all the time in the 76 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: company of extremist pastors who seek to dominate American life 77 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: by taking political power. There is a philosophy, it's called dominionism. 78 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: There is a conspiracy, and the conspiracy is the attempt 79 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: by people to take power across all the peaks of America, 80 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: in life, in the culture, in politics, in the media, 81 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. It is real, So 82 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: why would it be denied? And why would such an 83 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: obvious and real threat ever be dismissed by a US 84 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Bishop of the Catholic Church, This man, Bishop Baron, I'm 85 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: going to lay out for you a political hit job. 86 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Like all stories, this one requires us to start at 87 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: the beginning. Let me introduce you to Heidi Presbola. She 88 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: is a veteran journalist broadly admired for her fairness and professionalism, 89 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: who works at Politico as an investigator reporter, but before 90 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: that is a veteran of NBC News and Bloomberg News. 91 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: For anybody who follows American politics and has paid attention 92 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: over the last twenty years, it's almost impossible to imagine 93 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: a scenario where you haven't seen Heidi Presbola on television. 94 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is, I've known her 95 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: for a very long time, and you can hold a 96 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: gun to my head. I have no idea what her 97 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: politics are. She's a true journalist, somebody who views their 98 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: job as holding powerful people accountable. Illuminating the truth to 99 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: the public through the prism of the public good and 100 00:09:51,880 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: the public interest. This concept is what instills journalism with nobility. 101 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Heidi Prasbla was appearing on MSNBC and she was asked 102 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: the question. Here was her answer. 103 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: Remember when Trump ran in twenty sixteen, a lot of 104 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: the mainline evangelicals wanted nothing to do with the divorced 105 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 3: real estate mogul who have cheated on his wife, and 106 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: with the porn star and all of that. Right, So 107 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: what happened was he was surrounded by this more extremist element. 108 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: You're going to hear words like Christian nationalism, like the 109 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: New Apostolic Reformation. These are groups that you should get very, 110 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: very schooled on because they have a lot of power 111 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: in Trump's circle. And the one thing that unites all 112 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: of them, because there's many different groups orbiting Trump, but 113 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists not Christians, 114 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different, is 115 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all 116 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: human beings, don't come from any earthly authority. They don't 117 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: come from Congress, they don't come from the Supreme Court. 118 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: They come from God. The problem with that is that 119 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: they are determining man. Then it is then are determining 120 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: what God is telling them. And in the past, that 121 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: so called natural law is you know, it's a pillar 122 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 3: of Catholicism. For Catholicism, for instance, it has been used 123 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: for good and social justice campaigns. Martin Luther King evoked 124 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: it in talking about civil rights. But now you have 125 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 3: an extremist element of conservative Christians who say that this 126 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 3: applies specifically to issues including abortion, gay marriage, and it's 127 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: going much further than that, as you see, for instance 128 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: with the ruling in Alabama this week that judge is 129 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: connected to that dominionist faction. 130 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Now that answer really is divided into two parts, the 131 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: first part and the second part. And before we go 132 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: any further, let's be clear about something. Heidi Presbola is 133 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: the first person to say that she communicated awkwardly here. 134 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: She wasn't clear, but what she said is not wrong. 135 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: What I'm going to show you is a distortion. In 136 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: a minute, I'm going to show you somebody who takes 137 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: the first part of what Heidi Presibola says and wildly 138 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: inflames it while completely omitting the second part of what 139 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: she said, while disingenuously claiming that they just happened upon 140 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: seeing this, the most dangerous thing that they've ever seen 141 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: on television, the doorway to totalitarianism. That shit, you not. 142 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: But before we go there, let's watch the distortion. Let's 143 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:11,359 Speaker 1: watch Bishop Baron, the Prelate of the Wenona Rochester Diocese 144 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, attack target single out Haidi Presbola for the 145 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: specific purpose of generating a vast sea of headlines that 146 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: threaten her like these and these and these, and a 147 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: lot of social media vitriol, a lot of animals, all 148 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: of it on purpose, all of it deliberate, all of 149 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: it premeditated, and all of it designed to send a 150 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: message which is very simple. Stop your reporting. We'll get there. 151 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: But let's watch the intimidation. 152 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: On furl Hey, everybody's Bishop Baron. I want to share 153 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: with you some reflections on a clip I saw. I 154 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 4: think it came out last night Heidi Prisbola from Politico 155 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: was on MSNBC. It was one of the most disturbing 156 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: and frankly dangerous things I've ever seen in a political conversation. 157 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: Wait a second, the most dangerous thing his excellency has 158 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: ever seen. Is this Heidi Press below with Michael Steele, 159 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: really not this. 160 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 5: Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity 161 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong 162 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 5: for our country, our country, our country has been under 163 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 5: siege for a long time. 164 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Or this, let's goss, what about this? But you also 165 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: had people that were very fine people on both sides. 166 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: What about Donald Trump's call to violence in a presidential debate? 167 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: Stand back and stand by. It is incredible to think 168 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: that his excellency has lived such a sheltered life that 169 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Heidi Presbola and her words in twenty twenty four are 170 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: the most dangerous thing this man, who is north of 171 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: sixty years old, has ever seen. Astonishing, really astonishing. What 172 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: is it that Heidi Presbola said that is so dangerous? What, well, 173 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: let me show it to you. I'll unspoil it. 174 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: He's going after what she calls Christian nationalism. But what 175 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: she said was there are these Christian nationalists out there 176 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: who are claiming that our rights don't come from any 177 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: you know, human authority, they come from God. And she specified, 178 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: you know they're claiming these weirdos. 179 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: What you are seeing is sophistry a sophist at work. 180 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Heidi Presbel had never talked about Christians as weirdos. But 181 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: his excellency is trying to expand the argument, to broaden it, 182 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: to inflame, to divide. He is planting a seed of grievance. 183 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: He's trying to inflame, to make a fire bigger, build 184 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: it up. You see what Heidi Presbel has said now 185 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: has really nothing to do with what his excellency is 186 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: talking about. She made no mention of weirdos. She did 187 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: not try to put Christians outside a circle. What Heidi 188 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: Presbola did is speak awkwardly about the difference between Christianity 189 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: of faith and Christian nationalism. A deadly political document. Now 190 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: listen to the trick of the sophist on his way 191 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: to becoming a demagogue. The trick is simple. It's denialism, 192 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: and denihilism is a thread that runs across and through 193 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: so much of the fascist right in America, specifically directly 194 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: and with evidence. Denihilism of the Holocaust, denihialism of the genocide, 195 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: denihialism of the presence of an illiberal menace that proclaims 196 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: God's providence in the name of their political power. Let's 197 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: listen to Marjorie Taylor. 198 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: Green, President Trump is joining some of the most incredible 199 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: people in history being arrested today. Nelson Mandela was arrested, 200 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: serve time in prison. Jesus Jesus was arrested and murdered 201 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: by the Roman government. There have been many people throughout 202 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: history that have been arrested and persecuted by radical, corrupt governments. 203 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: And it's beginning today in New York City. And I 204 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: just can't believe it's happening. But I'll always support him. 205 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: He's done nothing wrong. 206 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Pastor Paula Amanda. 207 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 6: Sandatatata Rita ea ata Rica dha da. Let justice be done, 208 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: Let justice be done. Let we the people have the 209 00:18:54,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: assurance of affair and a just election. Hear our cry 210 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 6: and turn our hearts to you. God. I pray that 211 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 6: you return the hearts of those who were in power 212 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 6: and position to make decisions, to walk in your wisdom 213 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 6: and to do justly today for the integrity of democracy, 214 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 6: for our nation. God, we ask right now in conclusion, 215 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 6: for your provision, for your protection, for your power, for 216 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 6: an outpouring of your spirit like never before. I secure potus. 217 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 6: I thank you for President Trump. 218 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: How about Pastor Locke. Let me tell you something. You 219 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: ain't seen the insurrection yet. The charge of the Living 220 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: God is an institution. That's the case of hell shall 221 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: not prevail against it. And the Bible says that we'll 222 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: take it by force. Guys, what the Bible says? This 223 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: is real, and his excellency's denihilism does not make it 224 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: less real. Christian nationalism isn't just so called anything. It's 225 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: a real thing. And that real thing is a deadly thing. 226 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: Make no mistake about that. Surely his excellency is aware 227 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: that the Ku Klux Klan claimed God's providence, and that 228 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: they too were Christian nationalists in the eighteen seventies and 229 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: the nineteen twenties and the nineteen fifties, and that the 230 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: segregationists and the adherents of Jim Crow they too were 231 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: Christian nationalists. He must know this. But in twenty twenty 232 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: four history is denied. But for what purpose? We'll get 233 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: to that. Let's keep watching. 234 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: They're coming, you know, not from the Supreme corrit or 235 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 4: from Congress. Well, first of all, it was Thomas Jefferson 236 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: who made that claim. We hold these truths to be 237 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: self evident, that we're endowed by our Creator with certain 238 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: inalienable rights, and may ask everybody. It is exceptionally dangerous 239 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: when we forget the principle that our rights come from 240 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 4: God and not from a government, because the basic problem 241 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: is if they come from the government or Congress or 242 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court, they can be taken away by those 243 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: same people. This is opening the door to totalitarianism. This 244 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: is not some kind of religious nationalism or sectarianism. It's 245 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 4: one of the sanest principles of our democratic governance that 246 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 4: our rights come from God. Yes, government exists to secure 247 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: these rights. The Declaration says not to produce them. 248 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: Bishop Baron began his hit piece against journalist Tity Prezbola 249 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: by saying he had some reflections. Well, I hope he'll 250 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: reflect on what I'm about to say because it will 251 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: help him with his understanding of American history, which he 252 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: seems to have quite a thin grasp of. Let's talk 253 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: about the Declaration of Independence first. It was drafted by 254 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: committee Robert Livingstone, Roger Sherman, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin, 255 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: with Thomas Jefferson as the principal author. The Declaration of 256 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: Independence was the fulfillment of a trajectory that can be 257 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: traced back to the Magna Carter. It was a moment 258 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: that lit the world, that broke it, that turned it 259 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: upside down. It was one of the most significant before 260 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: and after moments in all of human history. These words 261 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: put to paper by the mind of man, written by 262 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: a hand steeped in the contradictions and hypocrisy of America's founding. 263 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: Because the man who declared that all men are created 264 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: equal and endowed by a creator with inalienable rights, including life, liberty, 265 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: and the pursuit of happiness, owned six hundred human beings 266 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: as slaves. The story of America has been the struggle 267 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: between the fulfillment of this idea and ideal and our reality, 268 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: and over and over and over again, the forces of 269 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: oppression and subjugation in America, whether they were Confederates, whether 270 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: they were Ku Klucklan, whether they were boomed, whether they 271 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: were Nazis, whether they were January sixth insurrectionists have claimed 272 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: God's providence and blessing to do so. That's not holy, 273 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: that's not godly, that's sacrilegious. It's blasphemy, and it's evil. 274 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: And there's another important thing to understand about the Declaration 275 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: of Independence. It was not law. It was exactly what 276 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: it proclaimed to be. It was a declaration of independence 277 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: that separated the colonies from the British Crown. You see 278 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: the committee the founders believed it was appropriate that they 279 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: write down for posterity the reason for the vote that 280 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: would be taken in early July seventeen seventy six that 281 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: would separate forever the United States of America from Great 282 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: Britain from the dominion of His Majesty's round. The resolution 283 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: passed by Congress is what made America independent. The Declaration 284 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: was the justification for the action. It is not until 285 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: the Constitution of the United States and its thirteenth and 286 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: fourteenth and fifteenth Amendments are passed that equality is established 287 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: legally in the Constitution between black and white. And it's 288 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 1: not until the nineteen sixties, one hundred years after the 289 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: ending of the Civil War, where the Civil Rights and 290 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: Voting Rights Acts are enshrined into federal law that breathed 291 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: life into the meaning of the concepts of the Declaration 292 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: of Independence. The Declaration of Independence has another vital meaning. 293 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: It was the north star to which Abraham Lincoln attached 294 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: himself when he reconsecrated the meaning of the Civil War 295 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: and its purpose, and called upon the country to finish 296 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: it through more bloodshed, through more struggle. At the war's 297 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: greatest killing field in Gettysburg, in an eighty seven words speech, 298 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln said, this government of the people, by the people, 299 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: for the people, shall not perish from this earth. He 300 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: made the war about the Declaration of Independence's loftiest aspiration 301 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: and highest ideal, that we are all created equal. But 302 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: make no mistake this declaration that told the King that 303 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: no American was beneath him, that he was equal in 304 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: the eyes of God, to every New England, Yankee skipper, 305 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: and every Virginia farmer. The rule of law and the 306 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: separation of church and state are foundational to the concept 307 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: of the United States of America. And this distortion that 308 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: people are being fed by the bishop to attack a 309 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: journalist who misspoke is deeply wrong. But it has a purpose, 310 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: and it has a red which we'll get to in 311 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: a minute. But let's keep watching. 312 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 4: It is exceptionally dangerous to go down this road, because, 313 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 4: as I say, we lose our groundedness in something transcendent 314 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 4: and become therefore by that very move victims of a 315 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: potentially totalitarian state that can take away the same rights 316 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: that they gave us in the first place. So can 317 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: I just say that, in their enthusiasm, I suppose, you know, 318 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 4: to go against so called Christian nationalism, they're actually going 319 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 4: against the foundations of our democracy. 320 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: Do you know what the deadliest words of the twentieth 321 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: century are, the deadliest words in human history. They exist 322 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: in every language on earth. They, them, and us. These 323 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: are the words that can be weaponized and turned into 324 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: poisoned arrows by demagogue, by a person like Adolf Hitler 325 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: or Mussolini, or a person like Donald Trump. They them us. 326 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: Whenever you see a demagogue speak, the tell that they 327 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: will drop is their employment of they, them and us. 328 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: So let's watch his excellency, the Bishop, start to broaden 329 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: the argument, start to lay the seeds of conspiracy. He's 330 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: laying a groundwork. What he's saying is that we good 331 00:29:54,200 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: people are surrounded by an enemy. It's insidious. It's everywhere. 332 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: It's conspiring. The enemy is they in them, and of 333 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: course the left. It is the left. Now let's connect 334 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: the dots. Let's connect the words. Heidi presbola, danger, the 335 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: most dangerous thing I've ever seen. A threat has been breached, 336 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: a threat has been realized. Heidi Presbola has opened the 337 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: door on MSNBC with Michael Steele to tautalitarianism. Yes, she 338 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: has the left, the left and the hostility to religion. 339 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: Don't you see the left, Heidi Presbola, Grave Danger, MSNBC 340 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: and the left who are against you us, They in 341 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: them against us. Heidi Presbola, MSNBC, Grave Danger, the left. 342 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: This is how it works. Do you see the connection. 343 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Do you see the construction of the demagogic attack against 344 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: Heidi Presbola. We're going to get to why that happened. 345 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Why this bishop of the Wynona Rochester Diocese is attacking 346 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: a journalist as part of a conspiracy of the left that, 347 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: according to him, as he alleges, whatever that may be, 348 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: is against religion in America. Let's keep watching. 349 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: And it's a further evidence of this extreme hostility of 350 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 4: the left now toward religion. No, no, precisely, as an American, 351 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: I want to hold that my rights come not from 352 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: something as vacillating and unreliable as Congress or the Supreme Court. 353 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 4: They come from God. 354 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: And note for the second time, it is the so 355 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: called Christian nationalists. I can name the Christian nationalists, but 356 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: why can't the bishop seem to name any of the 357 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: conspirators in this grave threat from the left beside tiny presbila. 358 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: Why is it that the bishop is mentioning the journalist. 359 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: At the beginning, I mentioned that there were two other 360 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: people in this story, the Attorney General of the District 361 00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: of Columbia and a political extremist. The political extremist is 362 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: named Leonard Leo, and he's been written about extensively. Leonard 363 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Leo is always present when there is corruption around the 364 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. 365 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 7: Leonard Leo, Welcome to firing line. 366 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 8: It great to be here. 367 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 7: You have had quite a week where you have finally 368 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 7: successfully ushered through the nomination of Brett Cavanaugh after a 369 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 7: very contentious political. 370 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 8: Fight, probably the most contentious Supreme Court confirmation we've had 371 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 8: in history. 372 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 7: Brett Cavanaugh was really the second judicial nominee that you 373 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 7: successfully ushered through both Neil Gorsich and Brett kavanaughh you 374 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 7: were very involved with, but the Federal Society has also 375 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 7: been involved in two other successful Republican appointments to the 376 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 7: Supreme Court, both Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito. How 377 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 7: did you end up in the position of directing and 378 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 7: guiding and advising the President of the United States on 379 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 7: his judicial appointees. 380 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 8: I have no idea. What I do know is that 381 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 8: the Federalist Society distinguished itself as an institution that was 382 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 8: a magnet for some of the best legal talent in 383 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 8: the country, and so I think presidents naturally looked to 384 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 8: the Federalist Society for that kind of talent. 385 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: Leonard Leo was there with Clarence Thomas in the Billionaires, 386 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: flying on the private jets to Alaska, opening the good 387 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: wine for the man who proclaimed to be happy in 388 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: an RV camping in Walmart parking lots, but instead traveled 389 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: the world like a sultan. You see. Heidi Presbola is 390 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: a particular type of journalists. She's an investigative journalist, and 391 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 1: she's written stories about corruption. She's written stories about Leonard 392 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: Leo and his organization, and the facts of her reporting 393 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: were so egregious that it led to the opening of 394 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: a criminal investigation in the District of Columbia by the 395 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: Attorney General. Something remarkable happened. Scores of Republican attorney generals 396 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: from different jurisdictions interfered with Wade In and wrote letters 397 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: to the Attorney General of the District of Columbia demanding 398 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: that an investigation into tax improprieties by Leonard Leo's organization 399 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: be stopped. This isn't just unusual, it's unprecedented, and make 400 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: no mistake, it's an act of intimidation by the very 401 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: same Republican attorney generals who sought to deny the results 402 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: of a presidential election. And that is something the bishop 403 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: should understand because the real threat to American democracy is 404 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: not what he made up to attack Heidi Presbola because 405 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: she wrote a story that he didn't like about his 406 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: friend Leonard Leo, and he went out and did the 407 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: hit job commissioned by Leonard Leo on the reporter, Leonard 408 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: Leo has become a powerful man in Washington. He is 409 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: a wizard of Oz figure that power is mostly illusory 410 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: until it turned real. He was a big player in 411 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court confirmations that I led for the Chief Justice, 412 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: and sadly Samuel Alito during the Bush White House who 413 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: became a major player in the American extremist cause because 414 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump made a deal with him. The three times 415 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: married reprobate who steffed every small contractor who ever met 416 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: who was a vulgarian of the first order. Needed to 417 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: get the votes of the Christian American fundamentalists that Leonard 418 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: Leo and so many others represent or claim to represent, 419 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: Trump just cut a deal. Leonard Leo said, you said 420 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: your pro choice. Trump said, I'll do whatever you want. 421 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: Leonard Leo said, here are the judges on this piece 422 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: of paper that we want you to nominate from. Trump 423 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: looked at the piece of paper and said, I'll nominate 424 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: these judges. They shook hand and the deal was made. 425 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Leonard Leo became a king maker because in the American system, 426 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: it's the president who is supposed to pick the justices, 427 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: not an extremist activist who's elected by nobody. But what 428 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: became clear when Trump surprisingly won was that the person 429 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: who held the keys to the Supreme Court and could 430 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: load it up with whomever he wanted because Trump didn't care, 431 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: was Leonard Leo. And then something incredible happened. Three justices 432 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: were confirmed, and Leonard Leo became legitimately powerful, so powerful, 433 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: in fact, that a billionaire died and left it all 434 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: to Leonard Leo, whose organizations now have so much money 435 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: that the interest alone is enough every year to open 436 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: up a new heritage foundation forever. And because of that money, 437 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: because of the reach that that money gives, Leonard Leo 438 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: has a lot of power. That's why with the snap 439 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: of a finger he can command multiple attorney generals from 440 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: across the country to lay into an attorney general who 441 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: would dare to investigate his NONIT tax status after well journalism, 442 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: and he's powerful enough a consultant who works for the 443 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: US Conference of Catholic Bishops to order a political hit 444 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: on the journalist who wrote the stories about him by 445 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: a Catholic bishop, of all people, it is despicable. Donald Trump, 446 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: Bishop Baron, Leonard Leo, and Bill Barr all came together 447 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: at a breakfast thrown by Leonard Leo, honoring Bill Barr 448 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 1: for being christ Like. I'm serious, He had just started 449 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: executing people again and federal prisident and of course was 450 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: an architect of the cruelest immigration policy the country has 451 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: ever had. By the way, thinking about it, Bishop Baron 452 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: talking about danger, has never said a word about Trump's 453 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: plans to create a police state to deport millions and 454 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: millions of people from vast well concentration camps. They'll be 455 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: spread over the country. Curious, isn't it. But anyway, there 456 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: at that breakfast there was a gathering of a type 457 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: of right political right that cloaks itself in religion and 458 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: Catholicism that Poke Francis recently warrant Catholics and the world about. 459 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: It's a warning that should be taken seriously. Heidi Presbo 460 00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: is a reporter doing her job. The bishop isn't just 461 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: an ordinary bishop from the Winona Rochester Diocese. He has 462 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: a large ministry. He's bragged about it. He's called out 463 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: other Catholic publications saying that their reach isn't nearly as 464 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: much as his. You see his YouTube channel is now 465 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: over a million. He has a big Twitter account, he 466 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: has videos, and he's selling Bibles for thousands of dollars. 467 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: He has a ministry for some odd reason that is 468 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: filled with bodybuilders and that glorifies not Christ in its 469 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: promotional materials. But his Excellency, who seems to like the 470 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: attention the Father started out on radio. In any Catholic 471 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: prelate in the United States should have an appreciation about 472 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: the danger of a Catholic demagogue wearing a clerical collar 473 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: to divide, in flame in the United States of America. 474 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: Because it happened before. There was once a man named 475 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: Father Coughlin in the nineteen thirties. He reached every week 476 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: one out of every four Americans, thirty million people in 477 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 1: a nation of one hundred and twenty million. That would 478 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: be the equivalent today of an audience every week of 479 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: north of eighty eight million people. What would you do 480 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: with that audience? Would you use it to spread the 481 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: good news? Would you use it to lift people up, 482 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: to spread the gospel of American justice and democracy and patriotism, 483 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: or would you use it to inflame and poison and divide. 484 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: Because that's what Father Coughlin did, And that's exactly what 485 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: Bishop Baron did when he took a hatchet to the 486 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: truth and he distorted what Heidi Presbil has said, and 487 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: he sought to intimidate her for one of his patrons, 488 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: a political extremist named Leonard Leo, who's done a lot 489 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: of damage in the United States of America, abetting a 490 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 1: cause that led to an insurrection. And that, my friends, 491 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: is the threat to American democracy. It is the threat 492 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: of extremism from a fascist cause that denied an election 493 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: result and tried to stage a coup, and a lot 494 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: of the elements of that coup did so proclaiming that 495 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: it was God's will. That's what Christian nationalism is, regardless 496 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,479 Speaker 1: of whether the bishop denies it or not. The next 497 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: time you see this Catholic bishop on television or the 498 00:43:54,040 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: internet pointing a finger judging something, christ wouldn't do that, 499 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: but a politician would. And politicians with clerical collars have 500 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: historically been very dangerous people. In this man speaking of 501 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: danger seems like someone we all ought to keep an 502 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: eye on. Heidi Presbla. I suspect she'll keep on keeping 503 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: on and keeping an eye on all of them, because 504 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: that's what journalists do. The American media faces a crisis 505 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: of journalism. It's part of the reason why we have 506 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: a very difficult time in this country distinguishing between the 507 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: lie and the truth. That's why they stand equal out 508 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: in the twilight, indistinguishable to each other. For so many 509 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: of us, the truth matters, and what Heidi Presbola wrote 510 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: and reported about a corrupt movement led by corrupt people matters, 511 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: and I suspect she's going to write more about it 512 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: and the intimidation directed at her, even from a man 513 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: wearing the authority of his office, isn't going to dissuade 514 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: her at all. This is the warning. Be warned about 515 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: Christian nationalism. It is real, it is present, and it 516 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: is here. Watch this film and don't be deceived by 517 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: any bs. The threat is real, it is here, and 518 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: it is present. I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning 519 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: and I invite you to join. Subscribe on our substack, 520 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel, follow us. Welcome to the community.