WEBVTT - Evaluations Under Pressure | Jaguars Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, August tenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars Happy Hours brought to you by the Saint John's

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<v Speaker 1>River Water Management District and now Doug Peterson's personal Visor Advisor.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Kay Stevens, Jay P.

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<v Speaker 2>Checker, and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Thursday afternoon, a busy two hours ahead as

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<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars prepare for the Dallas Cowboys coming up Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>water It's worth saving and coming up on the show today.

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<v Speaker 3>Preseason week one prep continues. Playing time questions they have

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<v Speaker 3>been answered by Doug Peterson this week. Roster spots on

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<v Speaker 3>the line. Really the exams are the preseason games. The

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<v Speaker 3>Class SUSI throughout the week and you really get to

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<v Speaker 3>shine under the lights of some of these games players

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<v Speaker 3>making their debuts this week. And then at five o'clock,

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<v Speaker 3>the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network will

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<v Speaker 3>have the best of Doug Peterson's sound. In the press

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<v Speaker 3>conference from earlier in the week, we'll hear from Andre

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<v Speaker 3>Cisco as well. Jaguars safety JP Shadwick with you, Jeff

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<v Speaker 3>log him in alongside.

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<v Speaker 2>Good afternoon, Jeffrey, Hey, JP, how are you doing? Doing good?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing good?

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<v Speaker 3>Excited to have a week to where we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>got an opportunity to look at game evaluation, which is

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<v Speaker 3>where you want to get to in the preseason. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the first couple of weeks. It's kind of new

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<v Speaker 3>and exciting the first week, and then once you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of get into the second week, it gets a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit old watching the same guys go against the same guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it gets old for those.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys said, yeah, it really does, right, it really does.

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<v Speaker 3>And so players are anxious and always excited to get

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<v Speaker 3>that first game under their belt. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>players are going to have a lot of emotion because

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be their first game action for some

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<v Speaker 3>of them, which can be very exciting and and it's

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<v Speaker 3>also will provide a lot of reality for some people

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<v Speaker 3>because this is a business and not everybody who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get equal reps, and that's just the nature of

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<v Speaker 3>the beast. It's just the way it is. They can't

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<v Speaker 3>divvy up reps equally amongst everybody. You mentioned reps one

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<v Speaker 3>of the questions this week, will the starters play and

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<v Speaker 3>if so, how long? Doug Peterson had an answer.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, I think it's important for them to play,

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<v Speaker 4>to feel the you know, I think the excitement around

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<v Speaker 4>a game. You know, don't plan on playing them long

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<v Speaker 4>at all, but just want to get them, get him in,

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<v Speaker 4>get him out, and then you know, but yet still

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<v Speaker 4>get get some quality working.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is going to be as vanilla of an

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<v Speaker 3>offensive and really defensive scheme. Let's start on the offense though,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got keep You want to get everybody, maybe a touch.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to keep the quarterback upright. If Michael Parsons

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<v Speaker 3>is playing, you're gonna see screens all over the field

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<v Speaker 3>just to get it out of his hands. But hey,

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<v Speaker 3>a nice sustained drive, spread the ball around, maybe get

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<v Speaker 3>some points. If you get six eight plays on a drive,

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<v Speaker 3>you might not see him again. Yeah, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>you know the like what you're saying is that if

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<v Speaker 3>you have a drive for early drive in the ball game,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's ten plays, eleven plays, twelve plays and it's

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<v Speaker 3>really good, then that's probably gonna be it. If it's

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<v Speaker 3>a three and out on the first drive and a

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<v Speaker 3>three and out on the second drive, you may go

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<v Speaker 3>three series, you know, just to try to find a

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<v Speaker 3>way to end the game with some success and some productivity.

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<v Speaker 3>And that mindset is definitely there. And JP the simplicity

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<v Speaker 3>of first preseason games is about as simple as you

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<v Speaker 3>can get. I mean, game plans are really non existent.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not doing walkthroughs with cards to where you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at Michael Parsons. You're not game planning for Michael Parsons.

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<v Speaker 3>And if Michaeh. Parsons plays, then your tackles are just

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to block them right well, yeah, or

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of it quick. Yeah, I mean, that's just

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<v Speaker 3>that's just part of the deal. And uh, and the

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<v Speaker 3>reason that they do that is they want to get

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<v Speaker 3>a very strong evaluation where where players are playing the

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<v Speaker 3>game free without thinking. So they want to see the athleticism,

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<v Speaker 3>the competitive nature, a player who can be aware of

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<v Speaker 3>some assignment responsibility but not become burdened with assignment responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>And and then you know, in the next game, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you start to see game planning, and then they get

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<v Speaker 3>to evaluate from that aspect. And so every game represents

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<v Speaker 3>kind of another stage or another level in the evaluation process.

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<v Speaker 3>We know what this offense looked like last year. It

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<v Speaker 3>kind of evolved as it went on, but there was

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<v Speaker 3>always motion and pre snap things and changes at.

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<v Speaker 2>The line up. It will be none of them. You

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<v Speaker 2>won't have it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you might have some motion, but you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a lot of stuff. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>kind of simple, basic meat and potatoes of your offense.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to hand the ball off. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>see how your linemen get movement. You want to see

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<v Speaker 3>how your your wide receivers, the young wide receivers block

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<v Speaker 3>special teams. Is going to be a huge evaluation point

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<v Speaker 3>in this game. So there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be looking at, and the one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that you want to look at is players that are

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<v Speaker 3>playing free so you can evaluate the athleticism, the playmaking ability,

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<v Speaker 3>and the talents of the players. Yeah, and then build

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<v Speaker 3>upon that moving ahead, or work on something on the

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<v Speaker 3>practice field next week if need be, and get some

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<v Speaker 3>guys going yeah. And this is a great I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a great atmosphere to have an evaluation in.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look Jerry's world. The stadium in Dallas, Fort Worth,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever wherever it is in Arlington, Arlington is tremendous and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a great environment for players to play in because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, part of the evaluation process is not only

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<v Speaker 3>just evaluating the player, but also evaluating the player's ability

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<v Speaker 3>and mental ability to handle some big moments. And I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you jp the first time that I ever

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<v Speaker 3>played at the old.

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Stadium, yeah, in Irving, it was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, Oh, you walk in.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, oh my god, this is where the Dallas

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys play. And it's going to still have a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of that. I think emotion connected to it for

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<v Speaker 3>some young players. And so from the aspect of evaluating

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<v Speaker 3>the player's ability to handle big moments, this is also

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity to have that. And I hope that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a good crowd and generate a little of excitement

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully some of the Cowboys are playing in this game,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can see some ones against some ones before

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<v Speaker 3>giving away to the backups. You know the old line

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<v Speaker 3>about the hole in the roof at Texas Stadium and

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<v Speaker 3>the retractors so God could shine down on the count

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<v Speaker 3>so he could watch his favorite team play. Yeah, right, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>It's a post on X at JP Shadwick at logs

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<v Speaker 3>five six. Well, the Jaguars, you're huge on there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a social media maven. It wasn't big on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm big on X times. Change times. They are

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<v Speaker 3>a change in pads, pads in practice Saturday, Sunday, Monday

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<v Speaker 3>earlier this week, the intensity ramped up a bit. And

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<v Speaker 3>I get it's not like the old days, BISSELLI was

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<v Speaker 3>in here the other day talking about that. But in

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<v Speaker 3>this world, the NFL, and in this training camp for

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<v Speaker 3>this Jaguars team, they kind of ratcheted things up, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday and then into Monday they're doing live tackling really

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<v Speaker 3>for the only time in training camp, and that's as

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<v Speaker 3>intense as this. They set the tone I think for

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<v Speaker 3>the physicality needed.

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<v Speaker 2>For this team.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and as Doug said, he said, you know you

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<v Speaker 3>want to you want to test and put these guys

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<v Speaker 3>through a little bit of mental strain to see how

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<v Speaker 3>they respond, and the team handled it very well. And

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<v Speaker 3>what's interesting is it was having a conversation with gentlemenager

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<v Speaker 3>Trent Balky today about you know, the the old camps

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<v Speaker 3>versus the modern day camp and and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was kind of surprised that that, uh, in

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<v Speaker 3>no pads today. You know, this guy's just joking around

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<v Speaker 3>with him, as you know, we always used to be

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<v Speaker 3>in an upper shoulder pads and have contact two days

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<v Speaker 3>before a preseason game back you know, in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>And he kind of chuckled and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, the crazy thing is is with the collective

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<v Speaker 3>Bargaining agreement the way it is now that if you

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<v Speaker 3>have three consecutive days and pads, you are required to

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<v Speaker 3>have three days to follow without pads. About that, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So so Doug took the opportunity to go three days

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<v Speaker 3>to do that mental challenge part. But then on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of that, now you got to go three

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<v Speaker 3>days and no patch, which day off they had on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>and then no pads yesterday, and then no pads today.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's three days.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they'll I think probably they're not nothing on

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<v Speaker 3>the field practice official. I think tomorrow, but walk through traveling, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>walk through and then travel day something. I mean, could

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<v Speaker 3>you go full pads if you wanted to? I mean probably,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're trying to get ready to you imagine get

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<v Speaker 3>ready for a preseason somebody who would Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if that would go.

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<v Speaker 2>Over very well? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked a lot and hurt a lot the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks on the defensive side, especially Mike Caldwell

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it. The Jags defensive coordinator that the number

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<v Speaker 3>one real priority for this defense is tackling. They had

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<v Speaker 3>some tackling issues a season ago that they've referenced. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to practice tackling. You don't get many opportunities,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tackling a dummies different than well, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to be creative, right, how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>First, the first thing I think and when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to tackling is angles. Angles, of approach. When you take

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<v Speaker 3>good angles, you put yourself in the best position to

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<v Speaker 3>make a tackle. So teaching angles is.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>The form and fit which you can't tackle, but you

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<v Speaker 3>can get the body ready and in position to do

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<v Speaker 3>that without following through with the physical part of the tackle.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I don't know if you happened to see

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<v Speaker 3>after practice. I think it was on Monday, and which

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty amazing to see and that, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>just had three days in a row of padded practices.

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<v Speaker 3>And then over on the farfield you got foy L

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<v Speaker 3>Devin Lloyd, Shaq quarterman. They're working on tackling themselves, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're on the single sled and they're forming up and

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<v Speaker 3>fitting it, driving it and then turning the sled and

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<v Speaker 3>dumping it. And so there's a way that you can

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<v Speaker 3>practice tackling against an inanimate object, whether it be a

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<v Speaker 3>pad somebody's holding for you, or whether it be the

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<v Speaker 3>tackling sled, which is I think the best way to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. But nothing beats live tackling against another human

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<v Speaker 3>because I can tell you jp look, tackling a sled

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<v Speaker 3>or tackling somebody in a game or in a practice

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<v Speaker 3>is not like tackling somebody in real time or in

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<v Speaker 3>a real game. And you know, for example, and look,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're coming from the side and you're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>tackle Eric Dickerson or an Emmett Smith and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get your hat across the bow, they're don't run through

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<v Speaker 3>you like you know, you're just a you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>little bag of talcum powder. Which I speak from experience

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<v Speaker 3>on it. Eric Dickerson got you, man. I had him

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<v Speaker 3>lined up one time JP. It was uh, it was

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<v Speaker 3>in New York and I was coming off the edge

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<v Speaker 3>of the goal line and I had him unblocked full

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<v Speaker 3>speed and was just gonna I was gonna blow him up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was going to send him to the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of the field in the air. And all

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<v Speaker 3>I remember is is him running right through me. And

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<v Speaker 3>he just walked into the end zone. I didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>my hat in front. And the Eric Dickerson had an

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<v Speaker 3>uncanny ability of running with strength, just like Emmett.

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<v Speaker 2>Big, big, big dude.

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<v Speaker 3>But he ran upright so you know, you thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be an easy target to just blow

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<v Speaker 3>him up. Nah, No, it didn't work out that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Big and fast and strong and the whole deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he was. He was special. I mean Hall of Fame guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, I mean Emmett, Hall of Fame guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, these guys were so strong and hey, you

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<v Speaker 3>think that you could just, you know, knock him down

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<v Speaker 3>and make it look easy. It just it never worked

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<v Speaker 3>out that way. But you know, that's the one thing

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<v Speaker 3>I think with the change of training camps and practices. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's doing it in the league, so it's not like

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<v Speaker 3>anybody's at a disadvantage. Everybody has to work within the

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<v Speaker 3>same system. So I'm not going to be one of

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<v Speaker 3>these guys that they should go back to the old

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<v Speaker 3>days and have more hitting, tackling, et cetera. Is the

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<v Speaker 3>tackling as good as it used to be in the

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<v Speaker 3>first couple games of the season. No, But the game

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<v Speaker 3>is different too. It's faster, it's more wide open, and

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<v Speaker 3>so that creates a lot of challenges that weren't there

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<v Speaker 3>or weren't in this game. You know, ten fifteen years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>plenty ahead, we're return with Trayvon Walker Jaguars outside linebacker,

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<v Speaker 3>and also a discussion about the interior of the d

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<v Speaker 3>line and the stoutness of that group up front. And

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<v Speaker 3>what logs you might expect against the run on defense

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<v Speaker 3>this year. It starts right there in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the defensive line. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you

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<v Speaker 3>It's worth saving this this Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>The growth of my mentality last year. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to say I always had a dog mentality

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<v Speaker 5>is just always you know what I'm saying. The little

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<v Speaker 5>things that I had to learn from last year is

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<v Speaker 5>being a rookie, just coming into the league, to understanding

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of different scheme things and mental things and

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<v Speaker 5>just how to switch up my game within the game

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<v Speaker 5>and just elevate as a player.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's still the.

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<v Speaker 5>Same mentality, just trying time to take it to a

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<v Speaker 5>new level, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dog mentality for the former Dog Trayvon Walker, current jag

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint.

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<v Speaker 3>JP Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, Glad you're with us. The Doug

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<v Speaker 3>Peterson Show coming up at the top of the hour

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<v Speaker 3>five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network will have the

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<v Speaker 3>best of Doug Peterson from the week in his press

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<v Speaker 3>conference earlier. We'll have coach Peterson live with us again

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<v Speaker 3>week one before the Jaguars visit the Indianapolis Colts. So hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Trayvon Walker, let's start with him going into year two.

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<v Speaker 3>I always say they know everything, but they are usually

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<v Speaker 3>right about this year one is a rookie to year

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<v Speaker 3>two in the NFL, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Overall, the world's calmer.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, You've seen everything once, you know where everything is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what you need to do to prepare for

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<v Speaker 3>a game, and that's really the baseline.

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<v Speaker 2>For a lot of guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and you're also you're training for a football season

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<v Speaker 3>where when you're a rookie, you're spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>time training for combine, preparing for interviews, You're traveling a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and the focus isn't on ball in a lot of instances.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, you get a big jump typically from

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<v Speaker 3>year one to year two. And Trayvon is a big,

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<v Speaker 3>strong dude, and he's really going to show I think,

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<v Speaker 3>more improvement and big improvement this year, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's got the one tool that you just can't teach,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the big and strong and toughness of a

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<v Speaker 3>of a defender.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The one thing that you want to see with him

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<v Speaker 3>is that progression of starting to advance the moves and

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<v Speaker 3>pass rushing everything. And I think that that will come

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<v Speaker 3>in time. He's got to learn to get on the

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<v Speaker 3>edges of guys and and I'm looking forward to watching

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<v Speaker 3>how he plays this year. But it's not just him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's there's other guys too. I mean, Josh

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<v Speaker 3>Allen's got to get to his best form. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>some other guys that defensive tackle tackle that are going

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<v Speaker 3>to have to emerge. Can Roy Robertson Harris get better.

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<v Speaker 3>Devon Hamilton has been really good pass rushing so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Akasi Fatikasi last year was banged up a ton. Can

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<v Speaker 3>he get back to being what they thought he was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be when they acquired him in free agency?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And the one guy that is intriguing to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>today he was wearing a red jersey, and that's the rookie, Yeah, Doula,

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<v Speaker 3>who I think has a lot of natural pass rush

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<v Speaker 3>ability and he had a lot of successful with it

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<v Speaker 3>in college. He's in concussion protocol. By the way, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why the orange jersey today. But you know, maybe he'll

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<v Speaker 3>be back fairly soon. You know, back to to Walker,

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<v Speaker 3>What have you seen in those one on one drills

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<v Speaker 3>that you've seen out there against the offensive lineman. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where you'll start to see some of those moves emerge.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you seen more out of him in those instances?

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<v Speaker 3>You're seeing him try some different things, and that's really

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<v Speaker 3>what a lot of that pass rush is for, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because as a pass rush, you don't know what works

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<v Speaker 3>until you try something new, and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 3>it's not comfortable when.

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<v Speaker 2>You first do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the best pass rush are the ones that feel

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<v Speaker 3>natural and reactionary, and that takes time to accomplish that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you may end up having a move say hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have this. I'm gonna try a spin move

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<v Speaker 3>on this play, But in reality, the best spin move

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<v Speaker 3>that you have is a reaction to an offensive tackle

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<v Speaker 3>that's oversetting you instead of a plan. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>work the spin move, but the only way that you

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<v Speaker 3>learn to have it become reactionary is to intentionally try

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<v Speaker 3>it on a particular pass rush move.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think he's gotten.

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<v Speaker 3>Better to where he's starting to work on the edges

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes that's a hard lesson to learn because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not something that comes natural to some people. But

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<v Speaker 3>the one thing that's natural to tray Von is the strength,

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<v Speaker 3>the power of the athleticism. And he has a tool

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<v Speaker 3>bag that a lot of guys just don't have. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I think he's got an incredibly high ceiling and

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<v Speaker 3>I like where his floor is at because he's got

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<v Speaker 3>the ability to do some really good things against the run,

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<v Speaker 3>to push.

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<v Speaker 2>The pocket, to be powerful.

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<v Speaker 3>But the toolbag needs to grow and that's all part

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<v Speaker 3>of the growth process. Caleb on Chase on Logs is

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<v Speaker 3>in his fourth season, fourth season contract year for him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't pick up the option, and so I mean

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<v Speaker 3>this is a big year for him. And has he

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<v Speaker 3>shown anything to Yeah, you know, he's actually done some

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<v Speaker 3>good things in past rush And he's the one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that Calebon didn't really show a lot in the first,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, three years of his career. He didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>show that he's a physical player. And I think over

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<v Speaker 3>the last two years he started to develop a little

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<v Speaker 3>physical nature about him where he's using his pass rush

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<v Speaker 3>technique of power to set some other things up and

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<v Speaker 3>that's good to see. You know, a lot of people say, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's a bust and they're going to give

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<v Speaker 3>up on him. But look, there's Jerry Hughes. Was a

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<v Speaker 3>guy and I bring him up just because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he was one of these guys that was a late bloomer.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a first round pick of the Indianapolis Colts

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<v Speaker 3>and he really didn't do anything for the Indianapolis Colts.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't do anything until he got to the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 3>Bills and then all of a sudden he blossomed. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that Calebon is going to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>but sometimes it takes guys a little bit longer to develop,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hope that he's one of those guys. But

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<v Speaker 3>right now, if I had to pick out my four

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<v Speaker 3>best pass rushers on this team, I'm gonna take or

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<v Speaker 3>you gonna start.

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<v Speaker 2>At four or one? What do you mean we're ranking

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<v Speaker 2>him right? No, I'm not thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just four guys line up with four guys, no

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<v Speaker 3>particular order, no particular order. These are my four guys

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<v Speaker 3>that I would love to see line up and right now,

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<v Speaker 3>Devon Hamilton in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been getting great push.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, I'm gonna have Trayvon in the middle, in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle because I think it's that combination of athleticism and

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<v Speaker 3>power would be very well suited to being an inside

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<v Speaker 3>pass rusher. When you get to second long and third

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<v Speaker 3>and long, those are two Josh Allen and then you

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<v Speaker 3>see her Abdullah my two outside guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, Okay, those are your four right now? Those are

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<v Speaker 2>my four right now. That can change.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it can change, yeah, I mean it can

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<v Speaker 3>be pre season week one, but I mean those are

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<v Speaker 3>the guys right now that are showing me the best.

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<v Speaker 3>And Devon Hamilton's been like Brandon Sheriff can't stop them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's like, here we go. He's just power

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<v Speaker 3>and Sheriff back pretty good. Sound back the pockets, sound

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<v Speaker 3>like police academy.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's been doing that to everybody. Yeah, he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>that to.

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<v Speaker 3>The backup guards, Blake hands, He's done that to Fortner

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<v Speaker 3>and by the way, Fortner, just a quick note on him.

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<v Speaker 3>You heard me talking last week about how he worked

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<v Speaker 3>on the functional strength. I'm gonna tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's showing his power and one on one pass rush

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<v Speaker 3>is dramatically better dramatically better than last year. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's like, wow better impressive. That's that's much better,

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<v Speaker 3>Like wow better as much better? Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>Glad you have us here today. All right, let's move

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<v Speaker 3>to We talk about the pass rush all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really the hot topic right now outside the building.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of fans are like, hey, what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>with that? How can they improve it? But we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about a lot of those interior guys. This Jags defense

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<v Speaker 3>last year was pretty good against the run. Stout in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle, even without Patacasi there that had a stretch

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't good, Yeah, but for the most part they

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<v Speaker 3>were pretty good. They finished twelfth in yards per game

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<v Speaker 3>against the run. I think they were better than that

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<v Speaker 3>in yards per play. I think fourth in the league

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<v Speaker 3>in yards per play in rushing. So this is a

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<v Speaker 3>group that should be good against the run. Well, and

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<v Speaker 3>look here's the reun I mean, look at some of

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<v Speaker 3>these numbers. Here, you know, twelfth in points allowed, which

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately that's the number one stat you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a points game, right, I mean, that's how you win.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a passing league. So you look at the rush

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<v Speaker 3>defense and twelfth ranking and you feel really good about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a passing league. Right on pass defense, you're

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighth. You know, third down percentage twenty ninth. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>those are near the bottom. I mean, those are the

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<v Speaker 3>areas that you've got to get better at and how

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<v Speaker 3>do you do that? Welsh rushing cover. The one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that you really love is the takeaways, twenty seven of them, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that was a category that really kind

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<v Speaker 3>of allowed this defense to survive in a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the games that they played. And so you hope that

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<v Speaker 3>they were able to replicate those numbers from last year

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<v Speaker 3>as far as the takeaways and then get better and

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 3>third down and pass rush and pass defense. You know,

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I said this on Huddle Up Yesterday, available on Jaguars

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<v Speaker 3>dot Com, the official team website.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw it, you said it right there too. The

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.679
<v Speaker 3>Jags were twenty fourth in total defense. If they're only

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 3>twenty nine yards better per game, twenty nine few yards.

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 3>They're in the top ten in the league in defense

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<v Speaker 3>per game less if they allow the game that's right

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<v Speaker 3>on average.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you do the mass, multiply that by seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, if it's thirty yards less per game,

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<v Speaker 3>one one extra drive you don't get, well, that's two

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<v Speaker 3>explosive plays essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're a little bit better, all of a sudden,

0:23:56.080 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 3>the perception changes. Oh, top ten defense, right, you know, well,

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 3>that's how fine a line it is on defense. Well,

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 3>and how do you get the improvement? Okay, with the offense,

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 3>you got high draft picks on offense. On defense, you know,

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 3>they didn't draft defense until you get a little later

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft, and there was something towards the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the draft and didn't go out and get a

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<v Speaker 3>lot a ton of guys and really any guys in

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<v Speaker 3>free agency for the most part. So they're expecting improvement

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<v Speaker 3>by two ways. One is the development of the roster

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 3>that they have, and it's also the development of the

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 3>coaching staff that they have, allowing everybody to get the

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<v Speaker 3>year two and improve across the board. And you hope

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<v Speaker 3>that that's that works. And I think it will work,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not easy to do, you know. The I

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<v Speaker 3>think the easy thing to do right now is to

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<v Speaker 3>is to sit there and scream, where's the defense, where's

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 3>the defense, where's the pass rush, where's the coverage? I mean,

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.880
<v Speaker 3>and look, that's what they have preseason four, and then

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 3>this is I think this defense is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to take some steps, but they've got to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to take some steps without lying on the takeaways

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<v Speaker 3>to sustain that success, because takeaways.

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<v Speaker 2>Are funny thing. You know.

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 3>You go back to just look a little bit back

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 3>in the Jaguars history twenty seventeen, which was arguably I

0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>don't even think it's arguable. I think it was the

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 3>best Jaguars defense in its history. I mean tremendous. I mean,

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 3>at one point in twenty seventeen with AJ Boy and

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Ramsey at corner, Kalieth Campbell, Malik Jackson, Sean Gibson

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 3>on the back end, the two edge rushers. Josh was

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:35.160
<v Speaker 3>a rookie at that point. N Gakway was there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this defense puslunding was unbelievable, and the numbers were literally

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 3>almost at the all time greatest level, like Bears of

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 3>eighty five, the Ravens of two thousand, those numbers, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>just unbelievable. Then all of a sudden, the next year,

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<v Speaker 3>you still had the same personnel, but the takeaways weren't there,

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 3>and the ranking dropped significantly when the takeaways weren't there.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's how important takeaways can be to a defense.

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<v Speaker 3>So this year you hope that you get the improvement

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<v Speaker 3>overall and you still maintain that category of takeaways. Jaguars

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<v Speaker 5>To get the game plan against another opponent, go against

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<v Speaker 2>We can really just let it all loose. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>excited to go out.

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<v Speaker 3>Anton Harrison, Jaguars right tackle Doug Peterson said he might

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<v Speaker 3>Stevens is with us. She's found us in studio.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, Kai, you guys have a lot more jazzy music

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 6>than we have in the morning. We're a little more punchy.

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 6>But you guys are like punchy happy hour club music.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's the whole idea. It's a party of it.

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 2>We're not in charge of that. True.

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<v Speaker 6>We couldn't let JP pick. I know that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, yeah, you don't want me to pick.

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 3>We don't want you no chance, not at all.

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<v Speaker 6>Got to keep our viewers and listeners a week, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Jap's got great taste of music. Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 6>I come in some morning because j let's storytime JP

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<v Speaker 6>at like six am, So I stroll in and he's

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 6>just got his own personal concert going on like at

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<v Speaker 6>like nine after I get hassled by security trying to

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 6>get in the building. But yes, yes, JP has his

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 6>music going. But I've never Well, you want to pick

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<v Speaker 6>the music next week?

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<v Speaker 3>You've never asked, You're you never asked what it is. Well,

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna share it here.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not a big deal, but whatever, all right, next

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:07.159
<v Speaker 6>show one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of these days.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever wanted to play name that tune, I

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 3>want him on my team.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, he's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, if we could have like a team of three,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take I'm gonna take JP, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take Joe Fortanado.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Joe knows everything, our producer, Joe knows all the things.

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'd go undefeated. I think on that.

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Are you guys pretty good? You guys would be carrying me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that, Yeah you would. Anton Harrison

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>hopefully is in time carrying this offensive line. He's going

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 3>to get some time at right tackle and gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of it. He was at the podium today.

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<v Speaker 3>We just saw and heard it. If you're watching on

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Jaguars dot Com, you saw it. If you're on radio,

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 3>you heard it. But hey, he's excited to get out

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 3>there kai and we're excited.

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<v Speaker 2>To see him.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, it's the first round pick, so you definitely want

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 6>to see what you have. We've seen him a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit in practice. He's been dealing with that shoulder injury,

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<v Speaker 6>so we weren't sure if we're going to see him,

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<v Speaker 6>but Doug Peterson said, we would see with the Ones,

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 6>and he probably will stay out of a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>longer just so he can all get a look at

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<v Speaker 6>what's going on. But he's just from what I've seen,

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<v Speaker 6>been really good at, you know, asking questions. He's always

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 6>like trying to, you know, work with some obviously the

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 6>offensive line is very talented and kind of working with

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<v Speaker 6>someone at all times. And what I thought was interesting

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<v Speaker 6>is like you forget how young they are because he

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<v Speaker 6>was talking a little bit. He's from Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 6>So he's like, oh, yeah, I grew up watching sheriff,

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, on my hometown team, and you're like, oh yeah,

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 6>I forgot, you're like very young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The impressive thing about him and the thing that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>most excited about what about what Doug Peterson said is

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<v Speaker 3>that he's gonna play, but then he's probably gonna play

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<v Speaker 3>longer than the Ones. And a lot of people say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why would you be excited about that because he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>play more. I'm excited because that means that the shoulders

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<v Speaker 3>okay enough to be able to play longer.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. He missed what three days?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he missed some time, and he's wearing what looks

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<v Speaker 3>like a A lot of times when guys get shoulders,

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 3>they wear this device that goes around their chests, and

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.239
<v Speaker 3>then there's a cuff that goes around the arm, and

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 3>there's a connector that connects between the stuff that's around

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 3>the torso to the arm, so it limits the range

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<v Speaker 3>of motion of that shoulder. So when you see a

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 3>guy wearing something like that, your concern is, oh, you know,

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 3>he's got a pretty significant shoulder thing. Well, when the

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 3>head coach turn around, turns around and says, hey, look

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna play with the ones, you know he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be good to go and then he's probably gonna play more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there going all right. That means the shoulders

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<v Speaker 3>good enough.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that because look, I mean first round pick

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden he's missing time with the shoulder.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoulder and an offensive linemen are not best friends, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the one part of the body you

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<v Speaker 3>want to be good. You can play with little nicks

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>and bruises and bumps and other aches and pains at

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>other joint, but the shoulder is pretty important with an

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line, especially tackle. I think you just want to

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<v Speaker 3>see him out there running around. He's so athletic. I

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know was I telling you today, but anyway, I

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 3>was telling somebody that there was a play in practice

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<v Speaker 3>that anton And so he's in a two point stance,

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<v Speaker 3>which is pass pro stance. Okay, and most and most

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 3>guys when they're in the two point stance and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a run play, they kind of give it away. Okay,

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>they're kind of leaning and they're not looking like they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to kick out and to a forty five degree

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 3>angle for a pass set. So he is really disguising

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>it well. And from that two point stance, the play

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 3>that was actually called was a run away from him.

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 3>So his job from a two point pass pro stance

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 3>was to slide his body and cut off a three

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 3>technique defensive tackle. There ain't many dudes in the league

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 3>that can do that athletically, and he did it like effortless,

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 3>and I'm going, oh my god, that was awesome. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the kind of athleticism that he has

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 3>great feet, great hands, great finisher. That's the things that

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<v Speaker 3>I got from his college tape. The one thing I

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<v Speaker 3>think that he's still got to grow into is that body.

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 3>And he's a little more leading the pencil, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 3>so that when he takes on a bull rush he

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 3>can throw the anchor out and sit it down and

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.719
<v Speaker 3>stop a guy. But that will come in time. I mean,

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>look at Josh Wells's body now, Kyle. We saw him

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<v Speaker 3>when he was a young man. How different is his

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 3>body now from when he was a younger. He was

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>a skinny little guy, right, really not that little, but

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 3>he was, you know what I mean, compared to now.

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 2>He's been in the weight room for ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>So like Anton, what is he twenty one twenty two

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 3>young player?

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, give him a couple of years to even

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>mature more. And it's kind of crazy. We're saying out

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 3>about a three hundred and fifteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Pounds, but he couldn't tell. He's so tall and he

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 6>doesn't carry it like that. It's not like you know,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 6>an average height person that's three hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him. I think he's going to be really good.

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to get better over time, and

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 3>he's got the right mindset. Yeah, he takes advice from

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 3>some of those guys. So I talked to Josh Wells

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<v Speaker 3>today after practice and he said, ay, it's the feet

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 3>he's ever seen on a young guy. Yeah, oh yeah, Okay,

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's one thing. But they've grown very close,

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it's basically Wells. Part of Wells's job

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 3>is to carry it on down to the young guys,

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 3>including the first round pick who's playing it right tackle.

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 3>And Josh Wells has plenty of time there as well,

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 3>so he understands his role. But the fact that Anton

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 3>is open to these veteran players like Sheriff and like

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Wells and even Walker Little on the left side. Cam's

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 3>been at it. I know he has been around him

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<v Speaker 3>a lot on the practice field. That's a good group.

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<v Speaker 2>To learn from.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just I also he was talking to us

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<v Speaker 6>and he said, you know, I like to ask questions.

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<v Speaker 6>There's some people that are just you know, scared or

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 6>you know, not ready, not quite there. And He's like,

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 6>oh no, I bug them all the time. I'm always

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 6>asking him how they do it, why they do it

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<v Speaker 6>that way, And that's what you want right. And people

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 6>say this about Tank as well, like just being a

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 6>sponge absorbing everything around. Obviously, you're in the NFL, you've

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 6>never been there before. You're just going to be a

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 6>learning curve. But he does a great job of just

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 6>being like, all right, how much can I learn? And

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 6>every single day learn something new and try to pick

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 6>this up as quickly as it can, which is a

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 6>great sign.

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the guys that come in that think they

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 3>know those are not it. Those are not the guys

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 3>you want to have on your football team. You want

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 3>the guys that are coming in the door and saying, look,

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know anything, and it's better to keep my

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 3>mouth shut my ears open so that I can learn

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 3>and get better. And that's the kind of player that

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 3>he is, and that's good to see a young player

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.160
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0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 3>back to that thing when I said about anton there's

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 3>a reason that we have two ears in one.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Mouth, right, zipit? Yeah right?

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean especially for young players. I mean use those

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 3>two ears, okay, and don't use that mouth a whole lot.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 3>We mentioned two uts already in Harrison in Bigsby. But

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 3>who else are you excited to see finally get on

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 3>the grass out of here Saturday?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean obviously thirteen draft picks. There's a lot

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 6>of an undrafted free agents, so there's a lot of

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 6>people to see. I hope that you know, some of

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 6>the higher draft picks Tank Brenton Strange, that they play

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 6>a decent chunk of time because you don't know what

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 6>they are yet.

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 6>We've seen them practicing and it looks good, but I

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 6>have no idea what that's going to look in it

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.919
<v Speaker 6>like in a real game. So at least a little

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 6>bit of that, I think some of you know Antonio Johnson,

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 6>some of.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>The his name's popped up all over the place, of.

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 6>Course, and every out of everyone, out of Doug, out

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 6>of you know, everybody's been talking about him. So just

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 6>to see kind of how they use him as well, right,

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 6>because you know, we've heard about him on special teams,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 6>We've heard about him on defense, and just the roles

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 6>that they put everybody in. Parker Washington is return maybe

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 6>returning kicks and punts like we've seen him doing a

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 6>lot of that, and just how they use everybody, right,

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 6>So seeing how it looks in a real.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Game, yeah, because you've got to try it out in

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 3>a game and see and if they can't do it,

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 3>then okay, let's adjust and move forward. There's going to

0:35:59.920 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 3>be there's gonna be some guys that don't make the

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 3>active roster that other teams are gonna be sitting there waiting.

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 6>I think there's a lot of people that aren't gonna

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 6>make this roster that are gonna end up on a

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 6>different prosers.

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. I mean the wide receiver group is talented. I

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.799
<v Speaker 3>mean from top to bottom. I mean one of the

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 3>guys that you know that may not make this team,

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.479
<v Speaker 3>and I think he's got a shot is the big

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 3>tall guy, okay, Jacob Harris. I mean Jacob Harris gives

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 3>this wide receiving group something that they don't have. That

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 3>six foot five, rangey, big guy you know, because most

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 3>of the guys are a Ridley, A Kirk, say Jones.

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 3>These are smaller types, you know. And then when you

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 3>get down to that number five wide receiver, he's got

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 3>to be a special teams guy. So with Harris having

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 3>some size, I mean maybe that's an event, but you know,

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 3>here's the reality. If you keep him, who are you

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 3>not gonna keep?

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Exactly?

0:36:55.000 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 3>You got Parker Washington. He's a slot guy draft pick

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 3>right now. Tim Jones can play every position and special

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 3>teams guy. I mean, you really have Let's see Ridley's

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Ridley's on the team. He's gonna make it, says Chance Jones,

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 3>Christian Kirk, Jamal Agnew. Let's say Parker Washington's five. All

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 3>the rest of these guys are battling for a six spot. Yeah,

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 3>you don't. You don't typically see a team keep seven.

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Six is like the top typically the top number because

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 3>you need you're gonna need running backs. You got four

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 3>tight ends most likely that can make it well. And yeah,

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean numbers game four tight ends, you know, could

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 3>it be three? I mean there's a chance that would be.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 6>Even harder for me to make a decision, I think

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 6>than the wide receiver.

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.919
<v Speaker 2>And if you if you keep three let's just say

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>tight ends. Can you slide?

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Can you sneak one of those guys somewhere that they

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 3>don't get clean, maybe practice squad, but the one they

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.240
<v Speaker 3>still got to clean the clear waivers. The one position

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 3>that I think that the coaching staff are going to

0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 3>be watching incredibly close lee is cornerback. I mean, that's

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 3>the one position that you know kind of who your

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 3>first two guys are, and then after that you don't know.

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 3>And so these games, these preseason games, these upcoming practices

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 3>against the Detroit Lions, this is gonna be incredibly important

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 3>for that position group's evaluation because, to be honest with you, JP,

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't really have a leader beyond the top two

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 3>guys right now in my mind, play some ball, figure it.

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Out, let's do it right.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm excited and in Dallas as well. You ever been

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 6>right right lights, big stage city, not the not stadium, though,

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 6>very excited you have.

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 3>It's the most incredible stadium in the National Football League.

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's it's just it's white glove crystal. I mean,

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 3>it's it's impressive. You know, the all the fan amenities

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 3>that are at field, level, the both sides of the

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 3>end zones up prodex the number of suite I mean,

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 3>it's it is tremendous.

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<v Speaker 2>You will be.

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<v Speaker 6>Impressed excited to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Kai, well done as always.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next week.

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<v Speaker 6>We will and we'll have game things to talk about it. Yeah,

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 6>that's right, this is very exciting you.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll contribute to our pregame radio coverage as well, and

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 3>you'll be on the sidelines for radio.

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<v Speaker 6>So we'll be on the sidelines for radio on Saturday,

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 6>and then we're coming back for like a day, and

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 6>then we're going to Detroit for joint practice. We'll have

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 6>all our JAGSAM shows there Wednesday and Thursday.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like a plan to me. We'll talk to you, kay,

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. Kis Stevens with us.

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<v Speaker 3>Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by the Saint

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0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 3>the injury report and much more coming up than at

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<v Speaker 3>five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 4>Even the young guys from last year, you know, you

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 4>look at you know, Chadmoma as a young second year

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 4>linebacker who's gonna get plenty of you know, plenty of

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 4>time not only in preseason but the regular season. You

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 4>look at the young secondary guys who are going to

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 4>get a lot of opportunities this spring or this, uh,

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 4>this this training camp, and that's encouraging, and it gives

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 4>you depth on special teams, you know, and there's some

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 4>there's some key roles there that we can fill. So

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I think we're in a better position than me where

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 4>a year ago, uh, depth wise, and it'll be you know,

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 4>it'll be difficult at the end to make some some challenging,

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, decisions.

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 2>That's the head coach, Doug Peterson, of course. And welcome back.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.919
<v Speaker 3>It's Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint

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<v Speaker 6>J P.

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 3>Shadrick, Jeff Logman, Glad you're with us. More from Doug

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 3>coming up at five o'clock on the aptly named Doug

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Well here plenty

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 3>of from Doug in his press conference earlier this week.

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 3>He'll be back with us in studio Week one, when

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 3>the Jaguars visit the Indianapolis Colts to kick off the

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 3>regular season. A lot going on. Training camp schedules are nuts.

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 3>So we're giving him a few weeks off.

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, We're giving it to him. We're giving them

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 2>time on throwing them a bone. That's what's happening.

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, coaches a bit busy, you know, coaching football. Yeah,

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 3>that's the most important. I mean that, I will say

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 3>just real quick. I mean, the demands of being a

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:34.439
<v Speaker 3>head coach in the National Football League are unbelievable. I mean,

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 3>think about how many different moving parts there are to

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the football as an organization goes for the football operation

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 3>at this time of year with just the number to

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 3>sheer number of people, and I mean, heck, you got

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:56.799
<v Speaker 3>ninety guys. You got ninety one because they got yeah,

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and then you have the staff is handed for training

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 3>camp to be able to handle the additional number of players.

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 3>The demand turns in turns all across the board. You

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 3>have walkthroughs, meetings, you're scheduling and planning for trips, et cetera.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's media. I mean, it's it's like never ending.

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I admire the guys that do that job

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.879
<v Speaker 3>well because it is a lot on their plate. It's

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 3>not just coaching ball. I mean it's management, right, and

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.880
<v Speaker 3>and how people handle it. And tremendous amount of respect

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 3>for Doug because he handles everything with such class and

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 3>a nice calmness. You know, guys nice. I mean even

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 3>he's you know, yeah, he's he's fantastic. I'm sure those

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 3>wheels turn inside though for a guy that's successful, Oh yeah,

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 3>that smart of an offensive mind. I mean, it's always

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 3>moving in there. But he as cool as can be

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 3>on the outside. He hides some frustration. Well, yes, times,

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. All coaches have it, All people

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 3>have it sometimes, that's for sure. Hey, it's time for

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 3>the injury report presented by Baptist Health and the Jacksonville

0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Three players in concussion protocol according to the team this afternoon.

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Tyson Campbell had the orange jersey off today and was

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 3>out there practicing, but still is officially in the protocol.

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 3>You mentioned you see Abdullah outside linebacker, rookie, he's in

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 3>it now. Samus reyis the big Chilean tight end, is

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 3>in there as well in the concussion protocol. Of course,

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Ben bartch into Want Smooth both in the physically unable

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 3>to perform active list. Tyler Shatley still off to the

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 3>side after his ap episode earlier in the week. No

0:43:55.520 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 3>real timetable from the team on Shatley's return. You maybe

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 3>could see Bart sometime in the near future. We'll see

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:07.520
<v Speaker 3>what happens with that, and then Smoot maybe into the

0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 3>season for him. Yeah, I think Smoot's going to be,

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, quite a way's end of the season. I

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 3>think BArch may be back next week. Possibly, Hey, that'd

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 3>be good. You know. So he's kind of chomping at

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 3>the bit to get out there. He's worked on you well,

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 3>we watch him work on the side. I mean, the

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 3>guy's been i mean just getting after it on the side.

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 3>When I say on the side, he's not wearing pads

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 3>or a helmet or anything because you can on pup,

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 3>but he's working some individual type drills with trainers and

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>the strength and conditioning staff. I mean, he's definitely looks

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean just what the eye test, it looks like

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 3>he's really close to being ready to go, and that

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 3>would you know, hey, get him out there. He started

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 3>the year last year, and there's all these this talk

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 3>about oh hey, Walker Little's practicing it left guard and

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 3>what happens when Cam comes back he slide automatically. Well,

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 3>if bart' is fine and he's playing good ball and

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 3>he's healthy, and that's a moot point, right, well, I

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 3>mean it could be.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, here's the reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Bartch hasn't played football in a long time, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's coming back from a pretty significant knee injury

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<v Speaker 3>that he sustained last year. So just you know, assuming okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he's back doesn't mean that he's going to be back

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<v Speaker 3>to form.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got to be able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get back to playing football and making sure that the

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<v Speaker 3>leg is strong. And it's not a thought now when

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<v Speaker 3>you come back from a significant knee injury.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You think you're ready when you're doing all these kind

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<v Speaker 3>of drills on the side, but then it's the things

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't think about is where that has to

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<v Speaker 3>start to come naturally. You know, where your knee and

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<v Speaker 3>the muscles are all firing without you sitting there going

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<v Speaker 3>you know, make it fire, make it fire, and being

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<v Speaker 3>conscious about it. So I mean it's you can't assume

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<v Speaker 3>that he's going to be back and be one hundred percent.

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 3>You can't assume that he's going to be back and

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<v Speaker 3>immediately pick up where he left off before the injury.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's going to be some work that needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be put in to get back to that level for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, you know, could Shatley hold on to it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean that is a possibility. Shatley played

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<v Speaker 3>really well last year. You know, could you end up

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<v Speaker 3>having Walker Little moved to left guard? That's all hypothetical.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe he's playing well enough where he's you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to move him. There's just so many different

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<v Speaker 3>things that you don't know. I think as a coaching

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<v Speaker 3>staff and as a personnel staff, you just have to

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<v Speaker 3>let your eyes tell you what you need to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Some football has to happen, and it hasn't happened yet.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a couple of weeks of camp, but all

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 3>these games kind of change things. But I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 3>for BArch to get back a couple of reasons. One,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, it's it's no fun not playing football

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<v Speaker 3>when you get injured. But if you look at where

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<v Speaker 3>he started his rookie season to where he was was

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<v Speaker 3>getting last year. I mean, he had made tremendous improvement.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the year before I said that he was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most improved players that I've seen in

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<v Speaker 3>a long time in this organization. I thought he did

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<v Speaker 3>a tremendous job. And so I'm excited for him to

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<v Speaker 3>get back to playing football because he's still a young

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 3>player that I think has a He's got a lot

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 3>of things to help this football team. With three quick

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 3>things you want to see Saturday go well. Number One,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to see the team look organized, which I

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<v Speaker 3>expect nothing less than that from a Doug Peterson coach

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<v Speaker 3>football team. I want to see a team that plays fast,

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to see a team that plays tough,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what football is. It's a tough game, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're playing fast and that means they're playing free. And

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<v Speaker 3>in the first game, that's you want to see organization,

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<v Speaker 3>playing fast and being tough. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 3>can accomplish those three things in the first game, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a great start. Doug Peterson Show coming up in just

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of minutes, will of course, here plenty from

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<v Speaker 3>Doug Peterson in his press conference Earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 3>We also here from Andre Cisco. I had a chance

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<v Speaker 3>to catch up with the JAG's third year safety. Really

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 3>his second year on the field, didn't get much time

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<v Speaker 3>at all. Obviously in twenty one at the end of

0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 3>the season, he did after there was a coaching change,

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 3>and he was out there all last year. He has

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<v Speaker 3>been in the weight room this offseason, logs and looks

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 3>like a totally different player out there well. And he

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 3>looked great last year. Yeah, I mean he's but he's

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 3>just bigger now physically. Last year he was like very

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:36.959
<v Speaker 3>in great shape, and this year he looks in great

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 3>shape as well. And I'm looking for big things from

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<v Speaker 3>Cisco because the one thing that he has which you

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 3>don't need a lot of big muscles to do, he's

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<v Speaker 3>got great ball skills. I mean his ability to make

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:54.399
<v Speaker 3>plays on the ball and catch the ball. He might

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:57.320
<v Speaker 3>have missed his calling at some point and maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know exactly which coach made the move to take

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 3>him away from wide receiver to move him to safety,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean he's got great ball skills. And most

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 3>corners dbs would claim, oh yeah, I could play. They

0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:12.240
<v Speaker 3>all think they can right until but they can't. Yeah, Cisco,

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee you that you could move him and play

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver slash tight end because he's a little bigger

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 3>and he and he's got great hands. You wouldn't worry

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 3>about him for having many drops. You like these safeties

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 3>on this team.

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<v Speaker 2>I love them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's one of the strongest position

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<v Speaker 3>on the entire football team. Yeah, I mean you got to.

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<v Speaker 3>You got guys that literally if you lost your frontline guys,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd feel really good about the second team at both

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<v Speaker 3>positions being starters for that. Coming up next, Jaguars Radio

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<v Speaker 3>Network coverage of The Doug Peterson Show. Or thanks to

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<v Speaker 3>Kay Stevens, Joe Fortunado on the audio side, Brent Reeber

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<v Speaker 3>on the video for Jeff Logman. I'm JP Shadrick. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.