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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August tenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Checker, and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: It is Thursday afternoon, a busy two hours ahead as

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars prepare for the Dallas Cowboys coming up Saturday

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Speaker 3: and Arlington.

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Speaker 3: water It's worth saving and coming up on the show today.

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Speaker 3: Preseason week one prep continues. Playing time questions they have

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Speaker 3: been answered by Doug Peterson this week. Roster spots on

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Speaker 3: the line. Really the exams are the preseason games. The

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Speaker 3: Class SUSI throughout the week and you really get to

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Speaker 3: shine under the lights of some of these games players

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Speaker 3: making their debuts this week. And then at five o'clock,

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Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network will

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Speaker 3: have the best of Doug Peterson's sound. In the press

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Speaker 3: conference from earlier in the week, we'll hear from Andre

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Speaker 3: Cisco as well. Jaguars safety JP Shadwick with you, Jeff

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Speaker 3: log him in alongside.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Jeffrey, Hey, JP, how are you doing? Doing good?

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Speaker 2: Doing good?

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Speaker 3: Excited to have a week to where we kind of

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Speaker 3: got an opportunity to look at game evaluation, which is

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Speaker 3: where you want to get to in the preseason. You know,

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Speaker 3: in the first couple of weeks. It's kind of new

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Speaker 3: and exciting the first week, and then once you kind

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Speaker 3: of get into the second week, it gets a little

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Speaker 3: bit old watching the same guys go against the same guys.

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Speaker 2: Sure it gets old for those.

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Speaker 3: Guys said, yeah, it really does, right, it really does.

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Speaker 3: And so players are anxious and always excited to get

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Speaker 3: that first game under their belt. And a lot of

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Speaker 3: players are going to have a lot of emotion because

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Speaker 3: it's going to be their first game action for some

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Speaker 3: of them, which can be very exciting and and it's

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Speaker 3: also will provide a lot of reality for some people

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Speaker 3: because this is a business and not everybody who's going

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Speaker 3: to get equal reps, and that's just the nature of

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Speaker 3: the beast. It's just the way it is. They can't

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Speaker 3: divvy up reps equally amongst everybody. You mentioned reps one

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Speaker 3: of the questions this week, will the starters play and

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Speaker 3: if so, how long? Doug Peterson had an answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's important for them to play,

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Speaker 4: to feel the you know, I think the excitement around

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Speaker 4: a game. You know, don't plan on playing them long

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Speaker 4: at all, but just want to get them, get him in,

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Speaker 4: get him out, and then you know, but yet still

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Speaker 4: get get some quality working.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is going to be as vanilla of an

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Speaker 3: offensive and really defensive scheme. Let's start on the offense though,

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Speaker 3: you've got keep You want to get everybody, maybe a touch.

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Speaker 3: You want to keep the quarterback upright. If Michael Parsons

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Speaker 3: is playing, you're gonna see screens all over the field

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Speaker 3: just to get it out of his hands. But hey,

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Speaker 3: a nice sustained drive, spread the ball around, maybe get

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Speaker 3: some points. If you get six eight plays on a drive,

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Speaker 3: you might not see him again. Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 3: you know the like what you're saying is that if

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Speaker 3: you have a drive for early drive in the ball game,

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Speaker 3: and it's ten plays, eleven plays, twelve plays and it's

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Speaker 3: a three and out on the first drive and a

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Speaker 3: three series, you know, just to try to find a

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Speaker 3: And that mindset is definitely there. And JP the simplicity

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Speaker 3: You're not doing walkthroughs with cards to where you're looking

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Speaker 3: at Michael Parsons. You're not game planning for Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 3: And if Michaeh. Parsons plays, then your tackles are just

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Speaker 3: going to have to block them right well, yeah, or

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Speaker 3: reason that they do that is they want to get

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Speaker 3: a very strong evaluation where where players are playing the

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Speaker 3: game free without thinking. So they want to see the athleticism,

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Speaker 3: And and then you know, in the next game, you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of another stage or another level in the evaluation process.

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Speaker 3: We know what this offense looked like last year. It

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Speaker 3: I mean, you might have some motion, but you're not

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Speaker 3: You're going to hand the ball off. You want to

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Speaker 3: see how your linemen get movement. You want to see

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Speaker 3: how your your wide receivers, the young wide receivers block

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Speaker 3: special teams. Is going to be a huge evaluation point

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Speaker 3: in this game. So there's a lot of things that

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Speaker 3: playing free so you can evaluate the athleticism, the playmaking ability,

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Speaker 3: and the talents of the players. Yeah, and then build

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Speaker 3: this is a great atmosphere to have an evaluation in.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look Jerry's world. The stadium in Dallas, Fort Worth,

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Speaker 3: it's a great environment for players to play in because

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Speaker 3: you know, part of the evaluation process is not only

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Speaker 3: can tell you jp the first time that I ever

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Speaker 2: Texas Stadium, yeah, in Irving, it was a big deal.

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, this is where the Dallas

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Speaker 3: bit of that. I think emotion connected to it for

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to have that. And I hope that you know,

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Speaker 3: giving away to the backups. You know the old line

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Speaker 3: about the hole in the roof at Texas Stadium and

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Speaker 3: the retractors so God could shine down on the count

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Speaker 3: so he could watch his favorite team play. Yeah, right, whatever,

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Speaker 3: five six. Well, the Jaguars, you're huge on there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're a social media maven. It wasn't big on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: a change in pads, pads in practice Saturday, Sunday, Monday

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Speaker 3: earlier this week, the intensity ramped up a bit. And

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Speaker 3: I get it's not like the old days, BISSELLI was

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Speaker 3: this world, the NFL, and in this training camp for

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Speaker 3: this Jaguars team, they kind of ratcheted things up, you know,

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Speaker 3: Sunday and then into Monday they're doing live tackling really

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Speaker 2: For this team.

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Speaker 3: Well, and as Doug said, he said, you know you

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Speaker 3: want to you want to test and put these guys

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Speaker 3: what's interesting is it was having a conversation with gentlemenager

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Speaker 3: Trent Balky today about you know, the the old camps

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Speaker 3: And he kind of chuckled and he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: So so Doug took the opportunity to go three days

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Speaker 2: So that's three days.

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Speaker 3: And then they'll I think probably they're not nothing on

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Speaker 2: Over very well? Probably not.

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Speaker 3: we've talked a lot and hurt a lot the last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks on the defensive side, especially Mike Caldwell

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Speaker 3: one real priority for this defense is tackling. They had

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Speaker 3: some tackling issues a season ago that they've referenced. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's hard to practice tackling. You don't get many opportunities,

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Speaker 3: First, the first thing I think and when it comes

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Speaker 2: Part of it.

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Speaker 3: The form and fit which you can't tackle, but you

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Speaker 3: And then over on the farfield you got foy L

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Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd, Shaq quarterman. They're working on tackling themselves, and

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Speaker 3: Glad you have us here today. All right, let's move

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Speaker 3: the middle, even without Patacasi there that had a stretch

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Speaker 3: they weren't good, Yeah, but for the most part they

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Speaker 3: were pretty good. They finished twelfth in yards per game

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Speaker 3: against the run. I think they were better than that

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Speaker 3: in yards per play. I think fourth in the league

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Speaker 3: in yards per play in rushing. So this is a

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Speaker 3: group that should be good against the run. Well, and

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Speaker 3: look here's the reun I mean, look at some of

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Speaker 3: these numbers. Here, you know, twelfth in points allowed, which

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Speaker 3: ultimately that's the number one stat you know, because it's

444
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Speaker 3: a points game, right, I mean, that's how you win.

445
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Speaker 3: It's a passing league. So you look at the rush

446
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Speaker 3: defense and twelfth ranking and you feel really good about it.

447
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Speaker 3: But it's a passing league. Right on pass defense, you're

448
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Speaker 3: twenty eighth. You know, third down percentage twenty ninth. I mean,

449
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Speaker 3: those are near the bottom. I mean, those are the

450
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Speaker 3: areas that you've got to get better at and how

451
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Speaker 3: do you do that? Welsh rushing cover. The one thing

452
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Speaker 3: that you really love is the takeaways, twenty seven of them, sure,

453
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Speaker 3: and I think that was a category that really kind

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Speaker 3: of allowed this defense to survive in a lot of

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Speaker 3: the games that they played. And so you hope that

456
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Speaker 3: they were able to replicate those numbers from last year

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Speaker 3: as far as the takeaways and then get better and

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Speaker 3: third down and pass rush and pass defense. You know,

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Speaker 3: I said this on Huddle Up Yesterday, available on Jaguars

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Speaker 3: dot Com, the official team website.

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Speaker 2: By the way.

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Speaker 3: You saw it, you said it right there too. The

463
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Speaker 3: Jags were twenty fourth in total defense. If they're only

464
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Speaker 3: twenty nine yards better per game, twenty nine few yards.

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Speaker 3: They're in the top ten in the league in defense

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Speaker 3: per game less if they allow the game that's right

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Speaker 3: on average.

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Speaker 2: But if you do the mass, multiply that by seventeen.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if it's thirty yards less per game,

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Speaker 3: one one extra drive you don't get, well, that's two

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Speaker 3: explosive plays essentially.

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Speaker 2: It's right.

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Speaker 3: So if you're a little bit better, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: the perception changes. Oh, top ten defense, right, you know, well,

475
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Speaker 3: that's how fine a line it is on defense. Well,

476
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Speaker 3: and how do you get the improvement? Okay, with the offense,

477
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Speaker 3: you got high draft picks on offense. On defense, you know,

478
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Speaker 3: they didn't draft defense until you get a little later

479
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Speaker 3: in the draft, and there was something towards the end

480
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Speaker 3: of the draft and didn't go out and get a

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Speaker 3: lot a ton of guys and really any guys in

482
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Speaker 3: free agency for the most part. So they're expecting improvement

483
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Speaker 3: by two ways. One is the development of the roster

484
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Speaker 3: that they have, and it's also the development of the

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Speaker 3: coaching staff that they have, allowing everybody to get the

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Speaker 3: year two and improve across the board. And you hope

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Speaker 3: that that's that works. And I think it will work,

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Speaker 3: but it's not easy to do, you know. The I

489
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Speaker 3: think the easy thing to do right now is to

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Speaker 3: is to sit there and scream, where's the defense, where's

491
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Speaker 3: the defense, where's the pass rush, where's the coverage? I mean,

492
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Speaker 3: and look, that's what they have preseason four, and then

493
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Speaker 3: this is I think this defense is going to be

494
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Speaker 3: able to take some steps, but they've got to be

495
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Speaker 3: able to take some steps without lying on the takeaways

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Speaker 3: to sustain that success, because takeaways.

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Speaker 2: Are funny thing. You know.

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Speaker 3: You go back to just look a little bit back

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Speaker 3: in the Jaguars history twenty seventeen, which was arguably I

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Speaker 3: don't even think it's arguable. I think it was the

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Speaker 3: best Jaguars defense in its history. I mean tremendous. I mean,

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Speaker 3: at one point in twenty seventeen with AJ Boy and

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Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey at corner, Kalieth Campbell, Malik Jackson, Sean Gibson

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Speaker 3: on the back end, the two edge rushers. Josh was

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Speaker 3: a rookie at that point. N Gakway was there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this defense puslunding was unbelievable, and the numbers were literally

507
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Speaker 3: almost at the all time greatest level, like Bears of

508
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Speaker 3: eighty five, the Ravens of two thousand, those numbers, I mean,

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Speaker 3: just unbelievable. Then all of a sudden, the next year,

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Speaker 3: you still had the same personnel, but the takeaways weren't there,

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Speaker 3: and the ranking dropped significantly when the takeaways weren't there.

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Speaker 3: So that's how important takeaways can be to a defense.

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Speaker 3: So this year you hope that you get the improvement

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Speaker 3: overall and you still maintain that category of takeaways. Jaguars

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Speaker 3: Happy Hour is brought to you by the Saint John's

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Speaker 3: when we return Kai Stevens, Jaguars reporter joining us, we'll

518
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Speaker 3: get her take on camp this week and much more.

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Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm looking forward to it a lot.

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Speaker 5: To get the game plan against another opponent, go against

521
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Speaker 5: new guys that's not your own teammates.

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Speaker 2: We can really just let it all loose. So I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to go out.

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Speaker 3: Anton Harrison, Jaguars right tackle Doug Peterson said he might

525
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Speaker 3: play a little longer than the starting group and welcome

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Speaker 3: back at Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by the

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Speaker 3: Saint John's River Water Management District, Florida's water. It's worth saving.

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Speaker 3: JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. We're on Tenson Xcel ninety

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Speaker 3: two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. If

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Speaker 3: you want us, you can find us almost anywhere. Kyle

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Speaker 3: Stevens is with us. She's found us in studio.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Kai, you guys have a lot more jazzy music

533
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Speaker 6: than we have in the morning. We're a little more punchy.

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Speaker 6: But you guys are like punchy happy hour club music.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's the whole idea. It's a party of it.

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Speaker 2: We're not in charge of that. True.

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Speaker 6: We couldn't let JP pick. I know that much.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, you don't want me to pick.

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Speaker 3: We don't want you no chance, not at all.

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Speaker 6: Got to keep our viewers and listeners a week, right.

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Speaker 2: Jap's got great taste of music. Did you know that?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: I come in some morning because j let's storytime JP

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Speaker 6: at like six am, So I stroll in and he's

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Speaker 6: just got his own personal concert going on like at

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Speaker 6: like nine after I get hassled by security trying to

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Speaker 6: get in the building. But yes, yes, JP has his

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Speaker 6: music going. But I've never Well, you want to pick

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Speaker 6: the music next week?

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Speaker 3: You've never asked, You're you never asked what it is. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna share it here.

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Speaker 6: It's not a big deal, but whatever, all right, next

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Speaker 6: show one.

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Speaker 2: Of these days.

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Speaker 3: If you ever wanted to play name that tune, I

556
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Speaker 3: want him on my team.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, he's good.

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Speaker 3: Now, if we could have like a team of three,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take JP, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: take Joe Fortanado.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Joe knows everything, our producer, Joe knows all the things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd go undefeated. I think on that.

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Speaker 3: Are you guys pretty good? You guys would be carrying me.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that, Yeah you would. Anton Harrison

565
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Speaker 3: hopefully is in time carrying this offensive line. He's going

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Speaker 3: to get some time at right tackle and gonna get

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Speaker 3: a lot of it. He was at the podium today.

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Speaker 3: We just saw and heard it. If you're watching on

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Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com, you saw it. If you're on radio,

570
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Speaker 3: you heard it. But hey, he's excited to get out

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Speaker 3: there kai and we're excited.

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Speaker 2: To see him.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's the first round pick, so you definitely want

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Speaker 6: to see what you have. We've seen him a little

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Speaker 6: bit in practice. He's been dealing with that shoulder injury,

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Speaker 6: so we weren't sure if we're going to see him,

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Speaker 6: but Doug Peterson said, we would see with the Ones,

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Speaker 6: and he probably will stay out of a little bit

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Speaker 6: longer just so he can all get a look at

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Speaker 6: what's going on. But he's just from what I've seen,

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Speaker 6: been really good at, you know, asking questions. He's always

582
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Speaker 6: like trying to, you know, work with some obviously the

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Speaker 6: offensive line is very talented and kind of working with

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Speaker 6: someone at all times. And what I thought was interesting

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Speaker 6: is like you forget how young they are because he

586
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Speaker 6: was talking a little bit. He's from Washington, d C.

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Speaker 6: So he's like, oh, yeah, I grew up watching sheriff,

588
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Speaker 6: you know, on my hometown team, and you're like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: I forgot, you're like very young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The impressive thing about him and the thing that I'm

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Speaker 3: most excited about what about what Doug Peterson said is

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Speaker 3: that he's gonna play, but then he's probably gonna play

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Speaker 3: longer than the Ones. And a lot of people say, well,

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Speaker 3: why would you be excited about that because he's gonna

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Speaker 3: play more. I'm excited because that means that the shoulders

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Speaker 3: okay enough to be able to play longer.

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Speaker 2: That's true. He missed what three days?

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Speaker 3: Okay, he missed some time, and he's wearing what looks

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Speaker 3: like a A lot of times when guys get shoulders,

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Speaker 3: they wear this device that goes around their chests, and

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Speaker 3: then there's a cuff that goes around the arm, and

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Speaker 3: there's a connector that connects between the stuff that's around

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Speaker 3: the torso to the arm, so it limits the range

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Speaker 3: of motion of that shoulder. So when you see a

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Speaker 3: guy wearing something like that, your concern is, oh, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's got a pretty significant shoulder thing. Well, when the

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Speaker 3: head coach turn around, turns around and says, hey, look

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Speaker 3: he's gonna play with the ones, you know he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be good to go and then he's probably gonna play more.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there going all right. That means the shoulders

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Speaker 3: good enough.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: I mean that because look, I mean first round pick

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he's missing time with the shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Shoulder and an offensive linemen are not best friends, okay.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the one part of the body you

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Speaker 3: want to be good. You can play with little nicks

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Speaker 3: and bruises and bumps and other aches and pains at

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Speaker 3: other joint, but the shoulder is pretty important with an

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Speaker 3: offensive line, especially tackle. I think you just want to

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Speaker 3: see him out there running around. He's so athletic. I

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Speaker 3: don't know was I telling you today, but anyway, I

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Speaker 3: was telling somebody that there was a play in practice

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Speaker 3: that anton And so he's in a two point stance,

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Speaker 3: which is pass pro stance. Okay, and most and most

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Speaker 3: guys when they're in the two point stance and it's

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Speaker 3: a run play, they kind of give it away. Okay,

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Speaker 3: they're kind of leaning and they're not looking like they're

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Speaker 3: going to kick out and to a forty five degree

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Speaker 3: angle for a pass set. So he is really disguising

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Speaker 3: it well. And from that two point stance, the play

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Speaker 3: that was actually called was a run away from him.

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Speaker 3: So his job from a two point pass pro stance

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Speaker 3: was to slide his body and cut off a three

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Speaker 3: technique defensive tackle. There ain't many dudes in the league

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Speaker 3: that can do that athletically, and he did it like effortless,

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00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: and I'm going, oh my god, that was awesome. But

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the kind of athleticism that he has

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Speaker 3: great feet, great hands, great finisher. That's the things that

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Speaker 3: I got from his college tape. The one thing I

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00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 3: think that he's still got to grow into is that body.

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Speaker 3: And he's a little more leading the pencil, so to speak,

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Speaker 3: so that when he takes on a bull rush he

645
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: can throw the anchor out and sit it down and

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Speaker 3: stop a guy. But that will come in time. I mean,

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Speaker 3: look at Josh Wells's body now, Kyle. We saw him

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Speaker 3: when he was a young man. How different is his

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Speaker 3: body now from when he was a younger. He was

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Speaker 3: a skinny little guy, right, really not that little, but

651
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Speaker 3: he was, you know what I mean, compared to now.

652
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: He's been in the weight room for ten years.

653
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: So like Anton, what is he twenty one twenty two

654
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: young player?

655
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Speaker 2: Right?

656
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Speaker 3: I mean, give him a couple of years to even

657
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: mature more. And it's kind of crazy. We're saying out

658
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: about a three hundred and fifteen.

659
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Speaker 6: Pounds, but he couldn't tell. He's so tall and he

660
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: doesn't carry it like that. It's not like you know,

661
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 6: an average height person that's three hundred pounds.

662
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Speaker 2: I love him. I think he's going to be really good.

663
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Speaker 3: I think he's going to get better over time, and

664
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Speaker 3: he's got the right mindset. Yeah, he takes advice from

665
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: some of those guys. So I talked to Josh Wells

666
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: today after practice and he said, ay, it's the feet

667
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: he's ever seen on a young guy. Yeah, oh yeah, Okay,

668
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: I believe that's one thing. But they've grown very close,

669
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Speaker 3: and you know, it's basically Wells. Part of Wells's job

670
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: is to carry it on down to the young guys,

671
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Speaker 3: including the first round pick who's playing it right tackle.

672
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: And Josh Wells has plenty of time there as well,

673
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: so he understands his role. But the fact that Anton

674
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: is open to these veteran players like Sheriff and like

675
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Speaker 3: Wells and even Walker Little on the left side. Cam's

676
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: been at it. I know he has been around him

677
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: a lot on the practice field. That's a good group.

678
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Speaker 2: To learn from.

679
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Speaker 6: And I just I also he was talking to us

680
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 6: and he said, you know, I like to ask questions.

681
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 6: There's some people that are just you know, scared or

682
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 6: you know, not ready, not quite there. And He's like,

683
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Speaker 6: oh no, I bug them all the time. I'm always

684
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 6: asking him how they do it, why they do it

685
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 6: that way, And that's what you want right. And people

686
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 6: say this about Tank as well, like just being a

687
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 6: sponge absorbing everything around. Obviously, you're in the NFL, you've

688
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 6: never been there before. You're just going to be a

689
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 6: learning curve. But he does a great job of just

690
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Speaker 6: being like, all right, how much can I learn? And

691
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: every single day learn something new and try to pick

692
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Speaker 6: this up as quickly as it can, which is a

693
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 6: great sign.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guys that come in that think they

695
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: know those are not it. Those are not the guys

696
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: you want to have on your football team. You want

697
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: the guys that are coming in the door and saying, look,

698
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: I don't know anything, and it's better to keep my

699
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: mouth shut my ears open so that I can learn

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Speaker 3: and get better. And that's the kind of player that

701
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: he is, and that's good to see a young player

702
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: who is hungry and he wants to learn. If you're

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709
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Speaker 3: back to that thing when I said about anton there's

710
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Speaker 3: a reason that we have two ears in one.

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Speaker 2: Mouth, right, zipit? Yeah right?

712
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Speaker 3: I mean especially for young players. I mean use those

713
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: two ears, okay, and don't use that mouth a whole lot.

714
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: We mentioned two uts already in Harrison in Bigsby. But

715
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Speaker 3: who else are you excited to see finally get on

716
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: the grass out of here Saturday?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean obviously thirteen draft picks. There's a lot

718
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Speaker 6: of an undrafted free agents, so there's a lot of

719
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 6: people to see. I hope that you know, some of

720
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 6: the higher draft picks Tank Brenton Strange, that they play

721
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 6: a decent chunk of time because you don't know what

722
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 6: they are yet.

723
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Speaker 2: Right.

724
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 6: We've seen them practicing and it looks good, but I

725
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 6: have no idea what that's going to look in it

726
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 6: like in a real game. So at least a little

727
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 6: bit of that, I think some of you know Antonio Johnson,

728
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 6: some of.

729
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: The his name's popped up all over the place, of.

730
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Speaker 6: Course, and every out of everyone, out of Doug, out

731
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 6: of you know, everybody's been talking about him. So just

732
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 6: to see kind of how they use him as well, right,

733
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Speaker 6: because you know, we've heard about him on special teams,

734
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 6: We've heard about him on defense, and just the roles

735
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 6: that they put everybody in. Parker Washington is return maybe

736
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 6: returning kicks and punts like we've seen him doing a

737
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 6: lot of that, and just how they use everybody, right,

738
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Speaker 6: So seeing how it looks in a real.

739
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Speaker 3: Game, yeah, because you've got to try it out in

740
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: a game and see and if they can't do it,

741
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Speaker 3: then okay, let's adjust and move forward. There's going to

742
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: be there's gonna be some guys that don't make the

743
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: active roster that other teams are gonna be sitting there waiting.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of people that aren't gonna

745
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 6: make this roster that are gonna end up on a

746
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 6: different prosers.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean the wide receiver group is talented. I

748
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 3: mean from top to bottom. I mean one of the

749
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 3: guys that you know that may not make this team,

750
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 3: and I think he's got a shot is the big

751
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: tall guy, okay, Jacob Harris. I mean Jacob Harris gives

752
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: this wide receiving group something that they don't have. That

753
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: six foot five, rangey, big guy you know, because most

754
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: of the guys are a Ridley, A Kirk, say Jones.

755
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: These are smaller types, you know. And then when you

756
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: get down to that number five wide receiver, he's got

757
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: to be a special teams guy. So with Harris having

758
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: some size, I mean maybe that's an event, but you know,

759
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: here's the reality. If you keep him, who are you

760
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: not gonna keep?

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Speaker 6: Exactly?

762
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Speaker 3: You got Parker Washington. He's a slot guy draft pick

763
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Speaker 3: right now. Tim Jones can play every position and special

764
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Speaker 3: teams guy. I mean, you really have Let's see Ridley's

765
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: Ridley's on the team. He's gonna make it, says Chance Jones,

766
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Speaker 3: Christian Kirk, Jamal Agnew. Let's say Parker Washington's five. All

767
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Speaker 3: the rest of these guys are battling for a six spot. Yeah,

768
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Speaker 3: you don't. You don't typically see a team keep seven.

769
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Speaker 3: Six is like the top typically the top number because

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Speaker 3: you need you're gonna need running backs. You got four

771
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: tight ends most likely that can make it well. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean numbers game four tight ends, you know, could

773
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Speaker 3: it be three? I mean there's a chance that would be.

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Speaker 6: Even harder for me to make a decision, I think

775
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Speaker 6: than the wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: And if you if you keep three let's just say

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Speaker 2: tight ends. Can you slide?

778
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Speaker 3: Can you sneak one of those guys somewhere that they

779
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: don't get clean, maybe practice squad, but the one they

780
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 3: still got to clean the clear waivers. The one position

781
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: that I think that the coaching staff are going to

782
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: be watching incredibly close lee is cornerback. I mean, that's

783
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: the one position that you know kind of who your

784
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: first two guys are, and then after that you don't know.

785
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: And so these games, these preseason games, these upcoming practices

786
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Speaker 3: against the Detroit Lions, this is gonna be incredibly important

787
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Speaker 3: for that position group's evaluation because, to be honest with you, JP,

788
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: I don't really have a leader beyond the top two

789
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: guys right now in my mind, play some ball, figure it.

790
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Speaker 2: Out, let's do it right.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited and in Dallas as well. You ever been

792
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 6: right right lights, big stage city, not the not stadium, though,

793
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 6: very excited you have.

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Speaker 3: It's the most incredible stadium in the National Football League.

795
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's just it's white glove crystal. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's impressive. You know, the all the fan amenities

797
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: that are at field, level, the both sides of the

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Speaker 3: end zones up prodex the number of suite I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it is tremendous.

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Speaker 2: You will be.

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Speaker 6: Impressed excited to see it.

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Speaker 2: Kai, well done as always.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 6: We will and we'll have game things to talk about it. Yeah,

806
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 6: that's right, this is very exciting you.

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Speaker 3: We'll contribute to our pregame radio coverage as well, and

808
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: you'll be on the sidelines for radio.

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Speaker 6: So we'll be on the sidelines for radio on Saturday,

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Speaker 6: and then we're coming back for like a day, and

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Speaker 6: then we're going to Detroit for joint practice. We'll have

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Speaker 6: all our JAGSAM shows there Wednesday and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a plan to me. We'll talk to you, kay,

814
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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Kis Stevens with us.

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by the Saint

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Speaker 3: John's River Water Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving

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Speaker 3: the injury report and much more coming up than at

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Speaker 3: five o'clock the Doug Peterson Show.

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Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: Even the young guys from last year, you know, you

821
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Speaker 4: look at you know, Chadmoma as a young second year

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Speaker 4: linebacker who's gonna get plenty of you know, plenty of

823
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Speaker 4: time not only in preseason but the regular season. You

824
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Speaker 4: look at the young secondary guys who are going to

825
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: get a lot of opportunities this spring or this, uh,

826
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Speaker 4: this this training camp, and that's encouraging, and it gives

827
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Speaker 4: you depth on special teams, you know, and there's some

828
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Speaker 4: there's some key roles there that we can fill. So

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Speaker 4: I think we're in a better position than me where

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Speaker 4: a year ago, uh, depth wise, and it'll be you know,

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Speaker 4: it'll be difficult at the end to make some some challenging,

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Speaker 4: you know, decisions.

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Speaker 2: That's the head coach, Doug Peterson, of course. And welcome back.

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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you by the Saint

835
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Speaker 3: John's River Water Management District, Florida's water It's worth saving.

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Speaker 6: J P.

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Speaker 3: Shadrick, Jeff Logman, Glad you're with us. More from Doug

838
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Speaker 3: coming up at five o'clock on the aptly named Doug

839
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Speaker 3: Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Well here plenty

840
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Speaker 3: of from Doug in his press conference earlier this week.

841
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 3: He'll be back with us in studio Week one, when

842
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: the Jaguars visit the Indianapolis Colts to kick off the

843
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 3: regular season. A lot going on. Training camp schedules are nuts.

844
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 3: So we're giving him a few weeks off.

845
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: That's okay, We're giving it to him. We're giving them

846
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: time on throwing them a bone. That's what's happening.

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, coaches a bit busy, you know, coaching football. Yeah,

848
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: that's the most important. I mean that, I will say

849
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: just real quick. I mean, the demands of being a

850
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 3: head coach in the National Football League are unbelievable. I mean,

851
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: think about how many different moving parts there are to

852
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: the football as an organization goes for the football operation

853
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: at this time of year with just the number to

854
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: sheer number of people, and I mean, heck, you got

855
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: ninety guys. You got ninety one because they got yeah,

856
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: and then you have the staff is handed for training

857
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: camp to be able to handle the additional number of players.

858
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: The demand turns in turns all across the board. You

859
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 3: have walkthroughs, meetings, you're scheduling and planning for trips, et cetera.

860
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's media. I mean, it's it's like never ending.

861
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Speaker 3: I mean, I admire the guys that do that job

862
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 3: well because it is a lot on their plate. It's

863
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: not just coaching ball. I mean it's management, right, and

864
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: and how people handle it. And tremendous amount of respect

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00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 3: for Doug because he handles everything with such class and

866
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: a nice calmness. You know, guys nice. I mean even

867
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: he's you know, yeah, he's he's fantastic. I'm sure those

868
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: wheels turn inside though for a guy that's successful, Oh yeah,

869
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 3: that smart of an offensive mind. I mean, it's always

870
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: moving in there. But he as cool as can be

871
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: on the outside. He hides some frustration. Well, yes, times,

872
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. All coaches have it, All people

873
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: have it sometimes, that's for sure. Hey, it's time for

874
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: the injury report presented by Baptist Health and the Jacksonville

875
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

876
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: Three players in concussion protocol according to the team this afternoon.

877
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: Tyson Campbell had the orange jersey off today and was

878
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: out there practicing, but still is officially in the protocol.

879
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: You mentioned you see Abdullah outside linebacker, rookie, he's in

880
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: it now. Samus reyis the big Chilean tight end, is

881
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: in there as well in the concussion protocol. Of course,

882
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: Ben bartch into Want Smooth both in the physically unable

883
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: to perform active list. Tyler Shatley still off to the

884
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: side after his ap episode earlier in the week. No

885
00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: real timetable from the team on Shatley's return. You maybe

886
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: could see Bart sometime in the near future. We'll see

887
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: what happens with that, and then Smoot maybe into the

888
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: season for him. Yeah, I think Smoot's going to be,

889
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: you know, quite a way's end of the season. I

890
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: think BArch may be back next week. Possibly, Hey, that'd

891
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 3: be good. You know. So he's kind of chomping at

892
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: the bit to get out there. He's worked on you well,

893
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: we watch him work on the side. I mean, the

894
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: guy's been i mean just getting after it on the side.

895
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: You know.

896
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: When I say on the side, he's not wearing pads

897
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: or a helmet or anything because you can on pup,

898
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: but he's working some individual type drills with trainers and

899
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: the strength and conditioning staff. I mean, he's definitely looks

900
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: I mean just what the eye test, it looks like

901
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: he's really close to being ready to go, and that

902
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: would you know, hey, get him out there. He started

903
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: the year last year, and there's all these this talk

904
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: about oh hey, Walker Little's practicing it left guard and

905
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: what happens when Cam comes back he slide automatically. Well,

906
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: if bart' is fine and he's playing good ball and

907
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: he's healthy, and that's a moot point, right, well, I

908
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: mean it could be.

909
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: I mean, look, here's the reality.

910
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: Ben Bartch hasn't played football in a long time, okay,

911
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: and he's coming back from a pretty significant knee injury

912
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: that he sustained last year. So just you know, assuming okay,

913
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: he's back doesn't mean that he's going to be back

914
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: to form.

915
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: He's got to be able to.

916
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 3: Get back to playing football and making sure that the

917
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 3: leg is strong. And it's not a thought now when

918
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 3: you come back from a significant knee injury.

919
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: I had to do it.

920
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: You think you're ready when you're doing all these kind

921
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: of drills on the side, but then it's the things

922
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 3: that you don't think about is where that has to

923
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: start to come naturally. You know, where your knee and

924
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: the muscles are all firing without you sitting there going

925
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 3: you know, make it fire, make it fire, and being

926
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: conscious about it. So I mean it's you can't assume

927
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 3: that he's going to be back and be one hundred percent.

928
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: You can't assume that he's going to be back and

929
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: immediately pick up where he left off before the injury.

930
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: So there's going to be some work that needs to

931
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: be put in to get back to that level for him.

932
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, could Shatley hold on to it?

933
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that is a possibility. Shatley played

934
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: really well last year. You know, could you end up

935
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: having Walker Little moved to left guard? That's all hypothetical.

936
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: You know, maybe he's playing well enough where he's you're

937
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: not going to move him. There's just so many different

938
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 3: things that you don't know. I think as a coaching

939
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: staff and as a personnel staff, you just have to

940
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 3: let your eyes tell you what you need to do.

941
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 3: Some football has to happen, and it hasn't happened yet.

942
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 3: It's been a couple of weeks of camp, but all

943
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: these games kind of change things. But I'm excited for

944
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 3: for BArch to get back a couple of reasons. One,

945
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's it's no fun not playing football

946
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: when you get injured. But if you look at where

947
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: he started his rookie season to where he was was

948
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: getting last year. I mean, he had made tremendous improvement.

949
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: I think the year before I said that he was

950
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: one of the most improved players that I've seen in

951
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: a long time in this organization. I thought he did

952
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 3: a tremendous job. And so I'm excited for him to

953
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: get back to playing football because he's still a young

954
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: player that I think has a He's got a lot

955
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: of things to help this football team. With three quick

956
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: things you want to see Saturday go well. Number One,

957
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: you want to see the team look organized, which I

958
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: expect nothing less than that from a Doug Peterson coach

959
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: football team. I want to see a team that plays fast,

960
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 3: and I want to see a team that plays tough,

961
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Speaker 3: because that's what football is. It's a tough game, and

962
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: they're playing fast and that means they're playing free. And

963
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 3: in the first game, that's you want to see organization,

964
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: playing fast and being tough. And I think if you

965
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: can accomplish those three things in the first game, it's

966
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Speaker 3: a great start. Doug Peterson Show coming up in just

967
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: a couple of minutes, will of course, here plenty from

968
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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson in his press conference Earlier in the week.

969
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 3: We also here from Andre Cisco. I had a chance

970
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: to catch up with the JAG's third year safety. Really

971
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: his second year on the field, didn't get much time

972
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: at all. Obviously in twenty one at the end of

973
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 3: the season, he did after there was a coaching change,

974
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: and he was out there all last year. He has

975
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 3: been in the weight room this offseason, logs and looks

976
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: like a totally different player out there well. And he

977
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: looked great last year. Yeah, I mean he's but he's

978
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: just bigger now physically. Last year he was like very

979
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 3: in great shape, and this year he looks in great

980
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: shape as well. And I'm looking for big things from

981
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: Cisco because the one thing that he has which you

982
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: don't need a lot of big muscles to do, he's

983
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: got great ball skills. I mean his ability to make

984
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 3: plays on the ball and catch the ball. He might

985
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: have missed his calling at some point and maybe I

986
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: don't know exactly which coach made the move to take

987
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: him away from wide receiver to move him to safety,

988
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: but I mean he's got great ball skills. And most

989
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: corners dbs would claim, oh yeah, I could play. They

990
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: all think they can right until but they can't. Yeah, Cisco,

991
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: I guarantee you that you could move him and play

992
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: wide receiver slash tight end because he's a little bigger

993
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: and he and he's got great hands. You wouldn't worry

994
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: about him for having many drops. You like these safeties

995
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: on this team.

996
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: I love them.

997
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: I think I think it's one of the strongest position

998
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: on the entire football team. Yeah, I mean you got to.

999
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 3: You got guys that literally if you lost your frontline guys,

1000
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 3: you'd feel really good about the second team at both

1001
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: positions being starters for that. Coming up next, Jaguars Radio

1002
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Speaker 3: Network coverage of The Doug Peterson Show. Or thanks to

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Speaker 3: Kay Stevens, Joe Fortunado on the audio side, Brent Reeber

1004
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 3: on the video for Jeff Logman. I'm JP Shadrick. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.