1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Hey, Kobe, how are you. 2 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm good? 3 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 3: Are you? 4 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I know you talked about this a 5 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: little bit last week, but I wanted to follow up 6 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: on something regarding the decision to have Jamie kickoff. Both 7 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Jude and Jamie have strong legs, and I'm just kind 8 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: of wondering what gives Jamie the edge on kickoffs. I 9 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: know he has that rugby background. I think Jude played soccer, 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: but I'm just kind of curious what heck gives Jamie 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: the advantage. 12 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily an advantage over the 13 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 4: other person. 14 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: I've said this before. 15 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 4: Jamie's flex to be able to do kickoffs I think 16 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 4: gives him a lot of value, and sometimes it's to 17 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 4: get him in the flow of the game, not knowing, 18 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: you know, when we're gonna be punting, so, you know, 19 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 4: wanting him to stay active I think is one thing. 20 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 4: But but aside from that, I thought Jamie did one 21 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 4: heck of a job kicking off. He showed the ability 22 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: to place the ball where we needed to, and that's 23 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: something that you know, obviously, if he gives us the 24 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 4: strongest uh, you know inclination that he's going to be 25 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: the best kickoff. Then that's a guy that will continuously use. 26 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: But I think, like I said before, all those guys 27 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: have the ability to paint the field, which is a 28 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: huge advantage for our specialists to do. 29 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: And then just one quick follow up, how much does 30 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: directional kicking factor into the equation? 31 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: A lot? 32 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: It does because your coverage has to tie into that. 33 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: Wherever the ball location is, your coverage has to follow suit. 34 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: So whether you have certain patterns going on, or whether 35 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: you're trying to kick it in between the hashes, those 36 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 4: are all things that deal with the whole kickoff defense. 37 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: So kick locations is an important part of them doing it. 38 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, yep. 39 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 5: And at Valentine, hey go be one of the one 40 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 5: of the positive areas yesterday, you know, aside from Jamie 41 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 5: was your kickoff return. You had the the almost big 42 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: one from Tay. You finally got a team to kick 43 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 5: a couple of balls to the gunner and he did well. 44 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 6: Can you just talk a little. 45 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 5: Bit about about how they did and the development of 46 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 5: your kickoff return? 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I think from the start of training camp 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 4: that was one thing that we dove deep into the 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: technique standpoint, the schematic standpoint, and that's something that's been 50 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: an ongoing process to put us in the best position. 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: You know, I've said it before. 52 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: Kickoff return is the first play of offense, so we 53 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: wanted to have a really strong position from a kickoff 54 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: return standpoint to give the ball back to our offense 55 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 4: with advantage in the field position. So it's a credit 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: to all those guys out there blocking number one and 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: then number two, the ball skills of those returners, you know, 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: just understanding how they set up their blocks, understanding that 59 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: catch mechanics are critical to have efficient returns. Those are 60 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: all things that deal with the success of the whole unit. 61 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, obviously Gunner has done a 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: nice job. Tay has done a nice job in the 63 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: past couple of games, and the other guys that have 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: been back there as well have definitely have definitely owned it. 65 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: So I'm really pleased with where a kickoff return unit 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: is right now, and hopefully we can keep that moving forward. 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: Thank you, hey Goby, thanks for doing this. 68 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 69 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 6: Banks has looked pretty comfortable with. 70 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: The ball in his hands on the kick returns, but 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: there was one yesterday where I guess it must have 72 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: been Gunner running it. 73 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 6: Whoever the other returner was running it and Banks didn't 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 6: seem to. 75 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: Know who to block, or didn't seem to give a 76 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: great effort blocking. 77 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 6: What do you chuck that up to. 78 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it was a lack of effort 79 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: by any means. I think, you know, part of the 80 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: development of the returner position is also the development of 81 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: the off returner position, because you don't know if you're 82 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: guaranteed going to. 83 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: Get the ball. So sometimes. 84 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: That process of them learning you know that certain tracks 85 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: to run when they when they're going to block the 86 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: urgency it takes to get there. That's all a feel 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: thing with. With time on task, I think that will 88 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: continuously develop. And the fact of the matter is when 89 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: those reps are on tape, you have the ability to 90 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: show them. Okay, So this is where we got put 91 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: in a compromise position. This is how we get better 92 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 4: and know and Tay, he's gonna fix it right away. 93 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 4: He's a very headsy kid and wants to do right 94 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 4: and he's loved the opportunity to be back there. So 95 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: we'll stay connected to the fundamentals it takes for him 96 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 4: to have success on. 97 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: Both being a returner and being an off returner. 98 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 7: And then you made it seem Thursday like the kicking 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 7: competition was open. So what did you see to last 100 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 7: week in practice to stick with Graham? Because the first 101 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 7: week you made it sound like it was like a 102 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 7: chemistry of the unit thing. 103 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: Because I said Graham, I meant Jude obviously, because you 104 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: made it seem like a chemistry of the unit thing 105 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 3: because Jude had been here a while. 106 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 6: Was it still that or did you just perform better 107 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 6: than Kup? 108 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 109 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: So to that point, you know, I thought the first 110 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: week the consistency with operation, and Jude had done a 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: nice job in the preseason. I thought that was telling 112 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: for his first game into it, and then going in 113 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: a week two, I thought Jude kicked the ball well 114 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: and it was nothing that Ku didn't do. I thought 115 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 4: Jude just had a good week of practice, And you 116 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: know the fact of the matter is having a good 117 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: week of practice, having a good game before, you know, 118 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: you kind of want to have a little bit of 119 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: continuity with it. So I thought jud did a nice 120 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,559 Speaker 4: job for us on Sunday, and you know, that's something 121 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: we'll continue to stay connected to whoever gives us the 122 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: best opportunity to to score points. I think that'll continuously 123 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: always be a competition. I think it ultimately elevates both 124 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: the both the positions. 125 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: You know like it. 126 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 4: It reveals a lot of things to you throughout the 127 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: week of what are they gonna be the strengths, what 128 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: are gonna be the challenges and obviously knowing the environment, 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: those are all things they'll play into it. 130 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 6: We have time for one more if there is one 131 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 6: go to be I'll just I'll ask, I'll ask about Philly. 132 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 6: I know it's a quick turnaround. 133 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: It's like one question is about the Saints and ones 134 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: about the Eagles, but just when you look at their specials, 135 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 3: you know, as you have so far throughout the season, 136 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: what pops from Philly specials? 137 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is a quick turnaround. 138 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: And that's one thing about these Thursday night games you 139 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: gotta be in tune two is how quickly can you 140 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: focus on the on the next opponent. And you know, 141 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: I think Michael Clay does want a great job in 142 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: terms of getting his guys to play hard. 143 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: I think Philly in terms of. 144 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: The returners between dots and between ship Lee, between big speed, 145 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 4: those guys all have great run skill, good to elite 146 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: top end speed, and then they have core players that 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: you know, challenge you with their physicality, challenge you with 148 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: their speed. You know, those are all things from a 149 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: personnel standpoint that that start on their team. You know, 150 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: we we got to know where all those guys are 151 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: at and it's going to force us to win. With fundamentals, 152 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: this game like any other game, and certainly a lot 153 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: of study that has to go into in a few 154 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: few amount of days.