1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in FRASCOO and 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: now your host, Kyle Yeomans. 5 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Today is Thursday, April seventeenth, and yes, we are one 6 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: week out from the NFL Draft, seven days away. This 7 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: is the Draft Show presented by Miller Lyte, the official 8 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: beer of the Dallas Cowboys. It is Miller time, and 9 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: yes it's officially draft time. We've got seven days left. 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: We've got Tommy Yarish. Brian brought us Votch Lombardi with 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomans. Glad you 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: are with us, gentlemen, it's getting closer. You get the 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: Waterburger shirt on. Brian say, can we represent to it? 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: Miss the water Burger shirt. He's got the Super Bowl 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: ring on. I mean, this is do you have the 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: this is this is top. 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: Tier stuff here. Mister brought us a little bright huh. 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: This is good stuff right here. He's like all the 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: way he's locked in. 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: It tolls you. It tows you how long ago that 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: I was in the Super Bowl. This ring is tiny 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: compared to what they have nowadays. 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 5: I'm just YouTube, but that's better than what I got. 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: You're saying that the top doesn't rop us not a 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: mini stadium anyway, it's a shiny g man. Thank you, man. 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. It's when you have a really good quarterback, 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 4: that's what you get. 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: And that's about right. The uh, the final seven days 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: until the draft and tonight since where you do have 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: the water Burger shirt on, that's we're doing. We've got 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: our draft one on one tonight. All of us will 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: be there. Botch is even going to be in attendance. 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: Right listen, man one, O, five three. Gotta do a 34 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 5: better job of it. 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 6: Man, they they I feel like they ain't really pushing 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 6: it out there. I feel like they ain't really showing 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 6: us love like. 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 5: That, you know what I mean? 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: He mean, well, he's he's watch is you want the 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: tag on? 41 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 6: Like the hope they listening to because because that sweet out. 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 6: Hey guys doing Draft one on? What it's Zach And 43 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 6: I'm like, what about us? I got a cool little 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 6: Twitter following. I gotta cut people in chat right now 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 6: that the pedal come through. 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: Hey, now that they know is going to be there. 47 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: The floodgates are open. 48 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: That ain't true, tweeted it. 49 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta limit the amount of people that 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: can come here. Waterburger's only got one hundred sandwich. 51 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 6: I would rather turn people down than us show up, 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 6: needing questions for the last hour and two people in 53 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 6: there because because they're not telling folks that it's going. 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: Down, Like I can't wait to hop in the autograph 55 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: line for watching Broadest. 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Are you hopping in it? 57 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 58 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, such a big, big fan, big fan, not yours. Yeah, 59 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm good off of that. 60 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 6: But shouts out, shouts out to the one O five 61 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 6: three people. I don't mean no harm. I don't work out. 62 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 6: I don't work I don't mean no harm. But you 63 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 6: could tag Vace Lombardy and people go, oh damn, okay, 64 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 6: I like him. 65 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 5: I would do this, tag Tommy Yards, tag Nickair. 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: They like us, Yeah, what it is? That's okay? Come 67 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: on follow back on Twitter? Yeah, oh, thank for us. 68 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 5: That's why I got I haven't done what. 69 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 4: You haven't followed me back on Twitter yet? Boch really 70 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: doesn't get involved with Twitter all that. 71 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 5: I don't treat Twitter, Facebook, you know. 72 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: That's why I got to hop in the autograph line. 73 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 5: I'll do it, I'll do it, I'll do it. 74 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: I just do it. With that being said, i's gonna 75 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: be mute. 76 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: Do the same thing to him. He's gonna block me 77 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: in two weeks after we. 78 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 5: Waits at a draft though I never see none of 79 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: y'all again. 80 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: It's gonna go back in the hiding. 81 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just deal. They hate when 82 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 5: I do it is Cob, I love it. 83 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: I think it's great. Seven o'clock tonight in the Fans Showroom, 84 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: forty one thirty one North Central Expressway, free Waterburger for 85 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: those that show up. We're giving away some prizes, Ceedee 86 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Lamb helmet, Dak Prescott, signed gear. We're all gonna be there. 87 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna be on the air for about an hour. 88 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: I think seven to eight is what the allotted time 89 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: is for. So we're really excited about it. Zach Wolchuck's 90 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: gonna to head up our coverage down there, and we're 91 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: gonna answer as many draft questions as possible. So according 92 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: to Twitter on the twenty Vox Lombardi, we're gonna get 93 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: through two over that hour of time. Can't wait, but 94 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to hit that initially. Ain't lying with it 95 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: being a week out from the draft, gentleman, we got 96 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: a lot of questions out there, but Votch, you did 97 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: bring up a topic of conversation that I do want 98 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: to get to. I want to gauge where we would 99 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: feel comfortable filling certain roles on this team and how 100 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: deep into the draft we can get into it, how 101 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: deep into the draft we can find certain places and needs, 102 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: like wide receiver too, like running back one, like a 103 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: starting offensive line, all of these different elements. So I'm 104 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: going to run through each position. I want you to 105 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: tell me what is the latest that we could possibly 106 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: draft each one of these guys that would fill it in. 107 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: We'll start with wide receiver two. When is the latest 108 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: you would feel comfortable drafting a wide receiver two? Not 109 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 2: talking about a Jalen Tolbert competitive I'm talking to somebody 110 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: that is a clear cut two behind CD lamp. 111 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 6: So this player would be better than Jaln Tobin. Yes, 112 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 6: that can come in and get six touchdowns and you know, 113 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 6: six hundred yards year one. Sure, I would say I 114 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 6: would say round two is as is as late as 115 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 6: I would feel confident about this So for me, that's 116 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 6: Jack Best, Jalen Royals, and elk al Manure. I think 117 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 6: Jalen Noel would be a good player. These are my 118 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 6: third round guys. I think Tedz Johnson be a good player, 119 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 6: Trey Harrison be a good player. I don't see them 120 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 6: getting what Jalen Tobert would get because then you have 121 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 6: to account for Jalen Tobert's next next bump up or whatever, 122 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 6: like year four Jalen Tober or whatever. So I think 123 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 6: round two is as far as it to go. So 124 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 6: context for this though, Kyle, the reason why you know, 125 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 6: just bringing this up is because you kind of got 126 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 6: to figure out what goes where, like like like where 127 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 6: you're gonna take picks, because for me, I'm not really 128 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 6: into the offensive tackle race, but I love Josh Simmons, 129 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So once I get past 130 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 6: Simmons or maybe like one other guy like you know, Membo, 131 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 6: I'm not really looking for offense tackle at all. So 132 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 6: that's my context for like bringing this up like this. 133 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: So once we get passed round two, I'm moving on 134 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 6: from wide receiver. 135 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 5: I'm looking for some else. That's just the context. 136 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: Mind it. 137 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So what do you think wide receiver two can 138 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: be Brian. 139 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: You know what, Yeah, that Vosch has hit the right names. 140 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 4: I think I would include Royals in there. I think 141 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: I could carry this thing down to God. This is 142 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: gonna be tough, but here we go. I think I 143 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 4: could carry this thing to Kyle Williams. Wow, okay, and 144 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: I got him at sixty six on my stack. And 145 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 4: but that's kind of where I'm at right now. Save 146 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 4: you on Williams. I really do like that kid from TCU. Man, 147 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: he does a lot of things from you. As Bill 148 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 4: Parcells would say, you take him to the game, You're 149 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: gonna get a lot of plays out of him. But 150 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: I think that you're I think that Voch has hit this. 151 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: I think that Besch I am in your those kinds 152 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: of guys. I think I think Tommy's going to tell 153 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: me about Harris from Old Miss Uh, you know, as 154 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: a guy that could be impossibly there. But I Kyle 155 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: Williams is kind of the guy that I'm looking at 156 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 4: and saying, Okay, maybe that's the guy that could come 157 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: in and and give me that role as a second guy. 158 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: Vertical player across the field, player, run after catch player. Yeah, 159 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: that's kind of where I'm I'm maybe putting the line 160 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: in the sand. 161 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: We haven't talked a whole lot about him, specifically at 162 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: wide receiver, and you've you've been very very high on 163 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: saving on Williams from TCU I have off the jump. 164 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: So I'm a little shocked to hear you say you 165 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: have Kyle Williams higher. Tell me a little bit about what. 166 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: Well once once I studied it. But once I studied 167 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: Kyle Williams out of Washington, Washington State, you know, I 168 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 4: just started to see a guy who was a high 169 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: targeted guy. I saw separation. I saw run after catch, 170 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: I saw being able to make contested catches. I saw separation. Yeah, 171 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: deep ball stuff. I mean there there. You look at 172 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: the way that he was able to make plays down 173 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: the field and make it at all three levels the screen, 174 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: the screen game that the Cowboys are any great screen 175 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: running team. But but you saw it really at Washington 176 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: State at all three levels. And the same thing with Williams. 177 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: You saw Williams. They put him in the backfield and 178 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: it's handing the ball. And Vach will probably tell you, 179 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: I'm sure that, hey, man, is this guy running back, 180 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 4: this guy running this guy kind of should we look 181 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: at him as more of a running back, you know, 182 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 4: than really a wide receiver the way he runs the ball. 183 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: But I just feel like that Kyle Williams is just 184 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: give me level, give me that play on all three 185 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: levels that I need and would be really really good. 186 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: And I think he's I think right now it would 187 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: be a better player than Tolbert. 188 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I feel good in the In the third, I 189 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: think for a wide receiver two and a lot of 190 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 3: the names that these guys have thrown out there, Brian 191 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: mentioned it. 192 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: I'm higher on Trey Harris. I've got him in the second. 193 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: So that would be if you get him at forty 194 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: four and you want to focus on something else at twelve. 195 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: I can live with that. 196 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: But I think this is these first three routes of 197 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: wide receivers are for what the Cowboys are looking for. 198 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: You've got guys there, I mean, Besh you as mentioned 199 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Io Mannor from Stanford. I'm with Brian, I love Royals 200 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: from Utah State. Jaden Higgins, I've got him in the third. 201 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit lower on him, I think, And 202 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: then you know, save on Williams from TCU. I've got 203 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: him in the fourth So even if he falls down 204 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: and you know, the Cowboys do something to trade up 205 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: and get their fourth round pick back, potentially, Yeah, that 206 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: would be someone that I'd be good with. So I 207 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: think that if you don't look at if the Cowboys 208 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: don't look at McMillan and Golden at twelve as like, 209 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if we want to take a wide 210 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: receiver two guy at twelve and we want to wait 211 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: till later. I don't think that's the worst thing in 212 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: the world. I just think a guy like McMillan, if 213 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: he's there at twelve, makes way too much sense. 214 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, and I think that's the conversation you have to have. 215 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: And then goes back to what Vox was talking about, 216 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: can you stretch wide receiver if you don't go there 217 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: in the first because I think right now we would 218 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: all say wide receivers one of, if not the most 219 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: likely picks at twelve, Yeah for the Cowboys, So we 220 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: can you push it past that? 221 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 7: Now? 222 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 4: We keep talking about though, but do they feel differently 223 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: about their wide receiver room than we do? Maybe you 224 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: know they they feel like with Mingo and Tolberd and 225 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: floorin Away and Brooks. Do they feel different about them, 226 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 4: and you know, and you know you're yeah, I mean, 227 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: the the evaluation would say, and there's a reason why 228 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: they brought all those receivers in, all those top receivers. 229 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: They probably, but I just wonder if in fact that 230 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 4: they that they look at me personally, I kind of 231 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: feel like the corners even more pressing than wide receiver 232 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: at times. 233 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, but does that value line up? Because that goes 234 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,239 Speaker 2: back to Will Johnson and Jade Barron in that conversation. 235 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I'm gonna have I'm gonna 236 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: have these wide receivers high on my board. But again, 237 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if they would That's the thing I 238 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: don't know. Even though they brought all those guys in, 239 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: I don't know if they smoke screening us. Maybe, you know, 240 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: are they saying, hey, we're not gonna we're It's it's 241 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 4: like one thing when they when they bring in the 242 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: East Carolina corner, which I think and I don't know 243 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: the other five or six names. There might have been 244 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: some more corners in that group, but there was one corner, 245 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: you know. To me, if they just brought in one 246 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: of these wide receivers, maybe that would telegraph what they're 247 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: thinking about or did they bring all these guys in 248 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 4: to say, listen, we're not going to give anybody an 249 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: opportunity to kind of get a gauge of what we're 250 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 4: doing here. But I mean, corner to me is super 251 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: super pressing. But they might feel better about wide receiver 252 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: than I know our show does. 253 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: Well, let's go into a corner then as a part 254 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: of this, I guess rundown for the most part. By 255 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: the way, I would take seven receivers, So second round 256 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: is where I've got it. I mean, the last guy 257 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: that I would take over Jalen Tolbert in this same 258 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: kind of comparison, would be Royals from Utah State. That 259 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: would be the last guy I've got in terms of 260 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: the current wide receivers. But let's go to corner starting corner. 261 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: That you could have. 262 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: It could be a nickel, it could be an outside corner, 263 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: it could be one of those guys on the boundary. 264 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: Where would you feel comfortable making a starting caliber corner 265 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: as deep as you possibly can. 266 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 5: So I think corners totally different. 267 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 6: And I wish I was on Last Week show or 268 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 6: Last Last Show or whatever Tuesday show. Yeah, Yeah, the 269 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 6: picck a tackle or whyever he'd running back conversation whatever. 270 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: I was on Team one Tech for that, Yeah, you were, 271 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 6: because the Cowboys have problems with the run game and 272 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 6: things like that. But I just feel like cornerback is 273 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 6: you left out corner, right, But I feel like cornerback 274 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 6: is deepest all get out. So I'm down in round 275 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 6: four and maybe in the middle of five, I'm up 276 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 6: here like longer. Beam can probably play some corner for 277 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 6: me right now, Kobe Bryant, Riley Huzzy, I'm just thinking 278 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 6: about names, Wade, Wade, way deep down in there. More 279 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 6: than likely Cowboys are probably gonna take a third round corner. 280 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 6: I got Maxwell Harrison that he might be a first 281 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 6: round guy since he going to the draft and all that. 282 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 5: So I'm just wrong on that one. But like Darian Porter, 283 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 5: he'll be a fantastic Cover three guy for you. 284 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 4: You know. 285 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 6: So there's every single round I'm looking at at corners, 286 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 6: and I'm just not running out of guys. I think 287 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 6: at most, at most from Lsu Alexander, he can convey Alexander, 288 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 6: he can compete with Kayln Carson at least, you know. So, 289 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 6: I'm corners is deep in this class. 290 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: This is my Remember Kayln Carson was what as and 291 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 2: he immediately had some rotation there at Corner. They felt 292 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: really good about that, but they could go deep into 293 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: this class. I mean I'm looking at fourth and fifth 294 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: round guys that I'm looking at, Guys like like Elijah 295 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: Hussey from North Carolina and Jalen Smith from USC. You 296 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: mentioned Brian Jabarbihammad from Oregon. These are all guys I 297 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: would feel comfortable with at least putting in a rotation 298 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: right now now a bona fide starter, you probably gotta 299 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: go top three rounds. 300 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: Also to Kyle and Table, do you guys think that 301 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 6: the league is valuing Corner like less? Because walking into 302 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 6: a draft, I'd be like boy Terrian Arnold, that's top 303 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 6: ten dude for me. Quinnyon Mitch is a top ten 304 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 6: dude for me. What's our guy? Pittsburgh Ago, Penn State, 305 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 6: Joey Boy. Joey Porter is a dude that everybody on 306 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 6: draft We love Joey Port and these guys fall and 307 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 6: they get to the league and they do fine, But 308 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 6: why is Corner falling like that? 309 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: Like? 310 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 6: Why all of a sudden corners that we love that 311 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 6: we watched film on and it goes to the league 312 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 6: and do fine. 313 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 5: So we're not wrong. League, league is wrong. We right, 314 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: Why did those guys drop so much? 315 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think the best example of somebody 316 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: that didn't think exactly what you just said was Philadelphia Eagles. 317 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: So they realized they drafted two corners and that changed 318 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: their defense completely. It's what they did with with you know, 319 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 4: with Mitchell and the Gene So you know, I try 320 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: and play without a couple of them. Dallas did that 321 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: for a while, and you know, and they and they 322 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: and they had to throw Carson out there and it 323 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: didn't work out, and they were signing guys off the street, 324 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: didn't work out. You know, there was there's a lot 325 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: of things. But you know, I I don't want to 326 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: believe that teams are are doing that or saying that 327 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: about corners because I think it is such an important position. 328 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 4: So I I just the example of Philadelphia if you 329 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: if you want to believe that, and then I'm not 330 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 4: saying I'm not going to I'm saying, but if you 331 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 4: want to believe that, go look at the Philadelphia Eagles. 332 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: Go look at how they ended their season two years 333 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: ago on defense, and then look how they ended the 334 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: season this last year. That's all you need to know. 335 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: That's all you need to know about how important corners 336 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: are for your football team. Me personally, though, I think 337 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: when you start getting past, say, Kobe Bryant at Kansas, 338 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 4: I'm starting to kind of feel like, Okay, am I 339 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 4: really really going to get a starter out of this one? 340 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: Where do you have him? 341 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: He's my one hundred and thirty fifth best player on 342 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: my board? 343 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: So is that a fourth? 344 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 4: That's about a fourth? I like we mentioned Alexander, I 345 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: have a one thirty nine Ranshaw. I mean it is 346 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: a drop. And when I get down to Ranshaw from 347 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: Tulane was a guy that I looked at. 348 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: I picked up you know late you as a corner 349 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: of safety. 350 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: I'm a corner. 351 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he played a lot of safety. Yeah, two lane. 352 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I got him at picked one seventy one. 353 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: So maybe to me it's more like the guys you 354 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: were talking about. It was Huzzy Mohammed maybe from Oregon, 355 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: Dotson another guy, and Bryant and Alexander. That might be 356 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: where you kind of start to and everything else after 357 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: that might be you're kind of thinking, Okay, guy's got traits, 358 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: but he's limited doing this. 359 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, guys, but I just feel like, 360 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: because of what we saw with Philadelphia last year, you wonder, Okay, 361 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: do we take a premium pick on a corner if 362 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: we're going to get that kind of game changing defensive performance. 363 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: Out of a guy like that? Is there a guy 364 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: in this draft early? I think there could be. 365 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: I mean you look at guys in like the second round, 366 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame, Trey Amas from Ole, miss 367 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: Osrayah Thomas, I've got him in the second So you know, 368 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: names like that can come into a room where you 369 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: don't know when Trayvon Diggs is gonna come back. You 370 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: don't really have a nickel guy at the moment. So 371 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: is that something that they decided to double dip or 372 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: I know there's been people have talked about moving to 373 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: Ron Bland inside. I'm not out of the opinion that 374 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: they should do that. But do you get a high 375 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: value guy like that? Do you use a premium pick 376 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: on it and try to bolster your defense that way? 377 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: I don't think it's out of the equation. As far 378 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: as how comfortable, I think I'm with the consensus here. 379 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: You know, you look at names like Corey Black from 380 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, that would be one. 381 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: I'd be okay with. 382 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 3: Quincy Riley from Louisville's a guy. I really like, Dorian 383 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: Strong Virginia Tech. All names that could make sense for you. 384 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: But I think I would prefer to spend one of 385 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: those second or maybe even third round picks on a corner, 386 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: just because right now this team needs a starting cornerback 387 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: alongside Deron Bland for as long as Trayvon Diggs isn't there. 388 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, where do y'all have joh 389 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 6: A Barron versus last year? 390 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: Right? 391 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 6: Versus Mitchell and Arnold from last year's draft Quinn Shawn 392 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 6: Mitchell and yeah, Tyran Arnold. Like like, I'm saying Baron 393 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: because we all may not feel that great about Will 394 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 6: Johnson or whatever, so I'm saying Barry. I think we 395 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 6: all can agree that we love Baron. Here, Where do 396 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 6: you gray Baron versus last year's best corner? 397 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 2: He would beat my fourth corner. He would be behind Arnold, Mitchell, 398 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: de Jene and that's it. 399 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: I would put him four. 400 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 6: Put those three guys up above him, Johnny probably a 401 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 6: second round. 402 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: And that's based off last year. I pulled up my 403 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: draft boards from last year, so that's before they even played, 404 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: and those three guys ended up playing pretty well throughout 405 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: the year. But that's that's where i'd have them. 406 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 6: I don't know if it wouldn't matter, but this draft, Man, 407 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 6: we gotta account for inflation, you know what I'm saying, Like, like, 408 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 6: we gotta we gotta account for the idea. 409 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: That nobody wants to hear about that on this show. 410 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: I apologize dealing with that anyway. 411 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 412 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, We got to account for the 413 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 6: idea that that that this year's class ain't like last year's. 414 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 6: I see it a lot on this just oh well, 415 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 6: that's not a player that's worth the twelfth overall pick. Like, well, man, 416 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 6: this one of them drafts where the dude that we 417 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 6: draft at twelve this year ain't gonna be like the 418 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 6: dude that went twelve last year. So we have to 419 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 6: we have to think about that. 420 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: I went last year. I'm just looking at my board. 421 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 4: I had Arnold Mitchell Wiggins. I had Wiggins, and then 422 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: I had the gene as the first player in the 423 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: second round. If that helps you with anything. But I'm 424 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 4: kind of feeling like that maybe I would have Like 425 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 4: I think I would have had Arnold over. I don't 426 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 4: think I would have had Mitchell over. Baron is where 427 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm at right there, So I think maybe only Arnold 428 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: would have been the guy that I had over over. 429 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: Where is he in your stack? 430 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: Baron? Baron? 431 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious. 432 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, the things like my Knine guy. 433 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're I have him at twelve. 434 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let me look at this real quick because 435 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: I want to make sure I get it right. Uh yeah, 436 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: he see, these corners are bothering me in a way 437 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 4: because of the injury stuff, and I'm trying to get 438 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 4: as much. I'm trying to get as much information about 439 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: him as I can. And I got reveal at twel 440 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: I got fifteen names, so I've got him. It's it's 441 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure I had him all 442 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: in the first. We get reveal in the at twelve, 443 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: Baron at fourteen, Benjamin Morrise at fifteen, and then I'm done. 444 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: So I just was like I was waiting for medical 445 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: information on him. I got favorable one on Revel, I 446 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 4: got favorable report on Morrison. So I'm going to leave 447 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 4: him right there, but yeah, I have Baron as my 448 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: fourteenth best player. Okay, and remember, for those at home listening, 449 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: Brian considers Hunter a wide receiver. I do's wide receiver 450 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: number one. 451 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take our first break. We'll get 452 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: into some more of those I want to talk detackle 453 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 2: definitely in the second or the third segment, and then 454 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: I want to talk a little O line. When would 455 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: you feel comfortable drafting offensive lineman in that third segment 456 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: as well. When we come back, it's time to go 457 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: into some twitter on the twenty What prospect has taken 458 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: the biggest hit from the beginning of the draft process 459 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: up until this point and where could they possibly end up? 460 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: All right, yeah, here we go. 461 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: Take it in the next week's draft. 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The action kicks off Thursday, 512 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: April twenty fourth with the Ultimate Draft Party, continues Friday 513 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: with the Draft Hangout, and wraps up on Saturday with 514 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: the Draft Day five K presented by Baylor, Scott and 515 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: White health three days of football fun and fan experiences 516 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: you won't want to miss. Visit Dallas Cowboys dot com 517 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: slash Draft for more details. We will be on the 518 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: air through every single one of the two hundred and 519 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: fifty seven picks of this NFL Draft. Can't wait for 520 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: next week's coverage. We'll get started night one at six 521 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: o'clock on one to five to three the fan in the 522 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: Odyssey app also on Dallascowboys dot com as well, and 523 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: then we'll continue through the entire first round, same start 524 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: time for Day two, we'll go six o'clock right at 525 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: the beginning of the draft in the second round, and 526 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 2: then on Day three we start at ten. We'll go 527 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: on an hour early before the first pick ends up 528 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: at about eleven o'clock Central time, so ten o'clock Central, 529 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: and we'll get to talk to some of the coaching 530 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: staff and some of the players or the prof scouts 531 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: to do that. Stuff like that is what we're anticipating, 532 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: So lots of coverage and everybody will be mixing and 533 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: matching throughout the weekend there uh starting next Thursday. But 534 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: with that being said, it's time for our penultimate edition. 535 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: Of Some Twitter on the Twitter. Let's go. 536 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: Phillip wants to know what prospect has taken the biggest 537 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: fall from the beginning of the draft process and which 538 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: has made the biggest climb. We'll start with the biggest fall. 539 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 2: Brian started started humming the Aggie wore him. 540 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's Nick Gordon, isn't it from 541 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: Texas A and M. Might be do you think so? 542 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: I mean he I know that there were there were 543 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 4: when I when Fotch and I were all we were 544 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: all looking at this stuff. I know, Tommy and then 545 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 4: we probably started looking at this draft and during the 546 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,719 Speaker 4: football season in the summertime. But when I picked it up, 547 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: you know, Nick Gorton a guy that from Texas A 548 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 4: and M that a lot of people had potentially as 549 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: a first round guy, and now you do not see 550 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: him really on any of the first round things. I 551 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 4: mean there's a lot of people that you know, I 552 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 4: mean they do the three when they do the three 553 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: pick mocks, you know, he might be a third round 554 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 4: guy for some people and stuff like that. So I 555 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 4: think those I think those Texas A and M kids, 556 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 4: we spent a lot of time trying to kind of 557 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: figure them out. But I believe he was the one guy. 558 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 4: And I'm sure Vach is going to come up with 559 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: somebody else different than that. But we I know, when 560 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: we started working together, those those A and M kids 561 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 4: were just we were struggling bad or I was struggling, 562 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: i should say. And but Nick Gorton was that guy 563 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: that was seemed like to me that he was a 564 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 4: lot higher than where he is right now. 565 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 5: The time I got phone names. 566 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: He was the guy that. 567 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: Well, he was the guy that when he transferred A 568 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: and M from Purdue, was kind of like a top 569 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: ten guy we're talking about. And you look at that 570 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: A and M defensive line, Gordon Stewart, our turner in 571 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: the middle, and it just kind of didn't live up 572 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: to the expectation. 573 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: I don't think for. 574 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: The Aggies this past year, you know, people will say, oh, well, 575 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: you're a Texas guy. 576 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: You're just saying that. So to counter that, everybody in 577 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: my family went to A and M. So yeah, I'm 578 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 4: saying that. 579 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: Well for for everybody who says, oh told me he's 580 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: a Texas homer. Sure, but I also think that the 581 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: player that's dropped the most is Cam Williams, the tackle 582 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 3: from Texas. I mean, this is a guy who in 583 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 3: the middle of the season, even really early on in 584 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: this draft process when we were talking, people were mocking 585 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: him as a first round pick, and I was like, 586 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: I don't see it. 587 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: Like this guy. 588 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: He's got holding penalties all the time. He's I mean, 589 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: the size that he's got is you can't match that 590 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: six seven, Just big dude who can When he moves 591 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: his feet and he gets his hands on you, it's 592 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: hard to get past him. But he doesn't. He's still 593 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: kind of learning the game of football. I think we 594 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: talked to him at Texas's pro day. He said that, 595 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: you know, when he got Texas, he didn't really know 596 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: very much about the game of football. And when he 597 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: played at Duncanvill High School here in the Dallas Fort 598 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: Worth area, it was more of just he was so 599 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: big that high school kids weren't able to get around him. 600 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: And at Texas it was more or less the same thing. 601 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: You're obviously just playing against better players. But when you've 602 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: got a guy like that, he's sat two years behind, 603 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm bringing Christian Jones. When he was 604 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 3: playing right tackle at Texas, he sat behind him, got 605 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: the time to develop, but I feel like he could 606 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: have benefited from another year at Texas, and I think 607 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: you're kind of starting to see that. The NFL waters 608 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: are reflecting that maybe he got some you know buzz 609 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 3: early that hey, you could be a first round pick 610 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: because teams are going to bank on your size and 611 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 3: your potential. But you watch the film and there's just 612 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: some things that he doesn't really do very well. Yet 613 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: you can't teach the size, and you know what he's 614 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: got physically, But from a technical standpoint, I think there's 615 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: still a lot of room to grow, and I think 616 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: teams are kind of opening their eyes to that. 617 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: Somebody did say that Texas bias in this show is 618 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: unbelievable and hilarious. So I'm looking right at you cowboys 619 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: taking guy like every round. 620 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: If you be fine, I'll tell you what. You could 621 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: have the first three rounds of Texas drafts and you 622 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 4: would be just fine, Golden. 623 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: Then you get the and Macouba something like that, just fine. 624 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: I'd be totally fine with all that. Better not a 625 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: Texas guy either. So all right, you said you had 626 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: four names, I've got a couple after you. 627 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, roughly, man, You know when we when we first 628 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 6: you know back in January. Yeah, the first thing we 629 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 6: do is we run the brugaler Man shouts out the 630 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 6: Dame man and I was out, by the way, the 631 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 6: beasts are going get it. Paid for it to do 632 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 6: the athletic thing and go do it. But the first 633 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 6: thing on Day's list, like the first seven names, like 634 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 6: Will Johnson was like Johnson the third guy. Uh, all 635 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 6: the A and M kids, they was like five and 636 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 6: six back to back with each other. Jalen Walker was 637 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 6: like five up in there. I was like, all right, 638 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 6: and then I'll watch film on those guys and I 639 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 6: was like, they some cool players. Some of them are 640 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 6: third round guys. Some of them are second round guys, 641 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 6: my boys, some of them a little later. And I 642 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 6: just think the draft process kind of does that they 643 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: just weed all these guys out. Kelvin Banks, I saw 644 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 6: one thing where he was like the first overall guy 645 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 6: because he was the best offensive lineman there. And hey, 646 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: Kelvin Banks, you know, gets a little injury and he 647 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 6: has a little bad film later on. 648 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 5: To see Texas Bias. 649 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 6: He has some bad film later in the season, and 650 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 6: Kelvin Banks kind of tumbled a little bit. Kevin Banks 651 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 6: maybe a guy that goes in the twenties or something 652 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: right now, twenty first kind of based on. 653 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: Where he's at. 654 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 6: So a lot of these guys they tumble because some 655 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 6: brand new film comes out. Brand new film is important. 656 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 6: You always just keep watching film, keep watching film. Highlights 657 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: right here, take a look at him. So, yeah, just 658 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 6: six or seven guys. This is gonna fall just by 659 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: way of how the draft just works. But I don't 660 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: think that that's their fault. I just think that they 661 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 6: get these way too early top one hundred lists and 662 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 6: they kind of get, you know, put up there. But 663 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 6: the film always, you know, film always let you know 664 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 6: where to go. 665 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, one more to kind of add to the list. 666 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: I actually pulled up a couple of twenty twenty four 667 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: way too early mock drafts just to see it. Like 668 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: those people that just throw him out there, just to 669 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: throw names out there. There were three Mott drafts that 670 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: I looked at. Go Ollie Gordon is up there. Yeah 671 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: that was one of the names. But how about Colston 672 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Loveland from Michigan. He was in the top fifteen picks 673 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: and three of these mock drafts that I pulled up. 674 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: He's still a good player. I have him in the 675 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: late second. Yeah, but the fact that he's not even 676 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: remotely in that first round love and he's kind of 677 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: the second or third or tight end on your board 678 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: compared to maybe some of those. 679 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: Mason, I think Mason Taylor is a better player. I mean, 680 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 4: and there's your LSU bias right there. But I've said 681 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 4: this all along about Mason Taylor. I watched him play 682 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 4: for three years at LSU, and Loveland is a nice player, 683 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 4: But Mason Taylor he was when LSU needed an absolute play. 684 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: He was the guy that went to and LSU has 685 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: a bunch of talented wide receivers, but they throw the 686 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: ball to this kid and he and he absolutely goes 687 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: and gets it. So you know, but yeah, Loveland was 688 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: a great example of guy. And I think Voss is right. 689 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: I think the media scouts we all kind of look 690 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: at a list and we start off with this list, 691 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, it's like wait a minute. Now, 692 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: once you really start diving in and the film starts 693 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: coming in, you're like, well, they're not as good as 694 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: the players we saw here, and then you know, that's 695 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 4: when you kind of question yourself. But in reality, though, 696 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 4: then the NFL scouts that kind of get into the 697 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: mix and they start to say, well, you're right about that, 698 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 4: that this guy really isn't as high as where he 699 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: was initially. 700 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, Donovan e was another one. 701 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: That's a good one too, Running Back, Michigan, same kind 702 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: of thing as same as all Oli Gordon had an 703 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: incredible Yeah twenty twenty three was unbelievable there and then 704 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: just kind of fell off and he's I think both 705 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 2: of those guys have been hurt by the group that 706 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: is coming out at Running Back too. You have so 707 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: many names kind of thrown out there that it does 708 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: ultimately affect it. All Right, this is kind of a 709 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: question I want to direct this toward brought us here. 710 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 2: Any chance this is from Jacob, any chance that they 711 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: would check with Dak Prescott in the Golden McMillan preference 712 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: debate since there might be a split of opinion. 713 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 4: They've always uh, Jerry Jones likes to solicit opinions and 714 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: so yeah, the most famous one was was Trey Eightman 715 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: took that Lsu tight end that didn't work out here 716 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: in the first round. So you know, yeah that you know, 717 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: I you know, they'll they'll maybe they run names by 718 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of these players are pretty hip 719 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: on understanding. You know, who the who the players are 720 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 4: in college football. These guys, you know, they know college football, 721 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: they watch college football, and so you know, with Dak, 722 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: he probably has an understanding. I mean, maybe they've kind 723 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 4: of explained to him that hey, we really really like 724 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: these receivers and maybe that you know, he had an 725 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: opportunity to meet him when they came in. You know, 726 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 4: these guys came in for thirty visits and he got 727 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 4: to know him a little bit. But sure, you know, 728 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 4: you may be running by you just but you wouldn't say, listen, hey, 729 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 4: who do you who is your preference here? You know, 730 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 4: maybe Dak on his own wanted to come in and 731 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: sit down what receivers you got here and and watch 732 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 4: a little tape with a coach or watch a tape 733 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: with some scouts or whatever and kind of get an 734 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: idea about it. But sure you would you would ask him, 735 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 4: but you wouldn't say, Okay, we're going to draft the 736 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: guy that you tell us to drive. 737 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: Based on you just you alone. 738 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, quarterbacks always going to get the opportunity in and 739 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: Dak's kind of the guy that would probably want to know. 740 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: He would probably want to know, Okay, who they're talking 741 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: about here, you know, and get an idea of that. 742 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, this is from G, and this is kind 743 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: of opening a door to a conversation we had off 744 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: the air that I would like to get in. 745 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: The tight end, by the way, was he Yeah, G. 746 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 2: Wants to know Ted and Golden are gone at twelve? 747 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: So the wide receiver off the board. How far do 748 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: you trade back? And what's the pick? 749 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 6: I don't trade back, okay, I just I just I 750 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 6: just take memboo because my phone's not ringing, and ain't 751 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 6: nobody trading up to come get Mike Green or nothing. 752 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna take the best player. 753 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 4: Of my boys. 754 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: Tell me why the phone's not ringing, because the. 755 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 6: Phone probably just don't ring, like like if the if 756 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 6: the phone is ringing, its likely ringing for somebody that's 757 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 6: there that they want to come get. So a tougher 758 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 6: question is, like, Okay, McMillan is there, but Seattle wants them. 759 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 6: Do you draft mcmilland or do you let them come 760 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 6: up and take them and get their like their picks, 761 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 6: Like that's a real trade back to right, you don't 762 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 6: get wiped out and the best player on the board 763 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 6: is I don't know, Coason Lovelin and go all right, 764 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna hit the button and trade back, and 765 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 6: they gonna draft right here. Why don't want a draft? 766 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 6: And they gonna give me their picks where both of 767 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 6: us want to draft. I don't think it's realistic. I 768 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 6: think it's it's much more realistic to go, damn, we 769 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 6: wiped out, Who's next? 770 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 5: Like, who do we draft? 771 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 6: And you may have to draft the guy that you 772 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 6: you know, didn't walk in excited about, But just take 773 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 6: the pic and. 774 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: Just run with it. Yeah, I think you always have 775 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: to be able to have the flexibility of understanding that 776 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 4: somebody is going to trade ahead of you. You have 777 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: to be prepared. You can't, you know. And let's let's 778 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 4: go back to the Travis Frederick draft. I don't think 779 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: they were necessarily prepared that their player was going to 780 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 4: come off the board in that draft. And then that's 781 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 4: why they blew the hatches and went for the bottom 782 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 4: of the ocean there, you know, and got the third 783 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 4: round pick. You know, But they were prepared for when, 784 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: you know, when Ryan Shazier was taken ahead of them, 785 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: they were ready to go, like you know, and then 786 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 4: even Jerry tried to kind of derail things with Johnny 787 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 4: Manziel talk on the clock and Steven and and Will 788 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 4: and then you know, Jason Garrett at the time said no, 789 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 4: this is how we have him stacked. And that's why 790 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: you have them stacked. That is why you you definitely 791 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: have I don't think you can wipe Dallas out at twelve, 792 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I really don't, because, like 793 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 4: I say, there could be a situation where, you know, 794 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: you could you could take like membu Is. It would 795 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 4: be a great that would be a great pick. You 796 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: know me personally, I think that Josh Simmons would be 797 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 4: a great pick if he was there. Those offensive tackles. 798 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 4: There's a couple of these guys like that. But to me, 799 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 4: I you know, it's trading back, is it? People? It's 800 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 4: really like I say, when I came in here, I 801 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: was talking about for thirteen drafts. I sat there and 802 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 4: watched the phone not ring. You know, folks, it's not 803 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 4: that easy. This isn't Madden, this isn't And I think 804 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: we get kind of sometimes we get spoiled in draft 805 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: simulator thing, the mock draft, the mock drafts that we think, 806 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 4: oh we could automatically trade back and somebody's going to 807 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 4: come get our picks. Yeah, you know. I ran a 808 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 4: draft in Philly in ninety eight and I told the 809 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 4: guys in the room and the ladies that were in there, 810 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: I said, I go, you want me to let this phone? 811 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 4: And we wait for the phone. I waited seven minutes, 812 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: and then we handed that pick in, you know, and 813 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 4: I and I had the eleventh pick of the draft, 814 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 4: you know, and I said, we'll let's take our guy 815 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 4: and let's go. And that was it, you know. So 816 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 4: it the phone and the cowboys are not going to 817 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 4: pick up the phone. They told you. They tell you 818 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 4: that they feel like if you're picking up the phone, 819 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 4: orf they're picking up the phone, they're probably losing the trade. 820 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: So I don't see them. I don't see them trading. Now. 821 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 4: Could they trade one or two spots, sure, yeah, but 822 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 4: you think they're going to, you know, blow the hatches 823 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 4: and go all the way to the bottom of the ocean. Again, 824 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 4: I don't know about that. Yeah, And I'm with Vatch. 825 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 3: With the Membo pick and you know, one of the 826 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: things that you know, I listened to a lot of 827 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 3: what Brian's advice, just because he's been doing this for 828 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 3: so long and he one of the things he told 829 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 3: me when we started this was if you like the player, 830 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 3: take them. Yeah, And I think you look at a 831 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 3: guy like a mechgg Buka, Yeah, yeah, there you go. 832 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 4: You could fit that mold. 833 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 3: And you know, you might not be the most exciting pick, right. 834 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 3: You may not say, oh twelve's too rich, and you 835 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: know I would agree. I think if you can trade 836 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 3: back and pick up more capital for him, that would 837 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 3: be preferred. But you look at you know the fact 838 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: that this guy was the robin to so many Batman's 839 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 3: at Ohio State, and he left that university as the 840 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 3: school's all time leading receiver. When you've got guys like 841 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: Chris Carter that played there, I mean, that's just phenomenal. 842 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 3: To Mery gn yeah, I think that's that's unbelievable. And 843 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: so you know, you think about the trajectory of that program. 844 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: And obviously he's Scott the player, not the helmet. But 845 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 3: this guy is a savvy route runner. He gets open quick. 846 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 3: And if you lose your guys and McMillan and Golden 847 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 3: and you say, okay, we really feel like we need 848 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,800 Speaker 3: a wide receiver here. I don't think I Buka is 849 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: a bad pick at all. 850 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if he would have ended up being 851 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 2: the pick at twelve, then we are looking across the 852 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: hall and saying they have a massive need at wide. 853 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: They had the absolutely they felt like they had in 854 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 2: the conversation that we had in the opening segment of 855 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,919 Speaker 2: we can maybe stretch this thing in the forty four. 856 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 2: They probably didn't think at that point if he if 857 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: Buka is the pick, that means they couldn't stretch it 858 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: past twelve. That meant that they looked at their scenarios, 859 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 2: it has to be twelve, and that's what would happen. 860 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: I don't think we would sit here and be upset 861 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: about Abuka being the pick. May just say they were 862 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: wiped out and they needed to fill a need and 863 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 2: they went for need over Bpa. There's probably going to 864 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: be a player higher on my board than Amika Buka 865 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: at that point in time. But you still feel pretty 866 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: good about the pick because it fits in your system 867 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: and if you like the player you pick them. 868 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 4: Well. I've kind of tried to cheer lead for this 869 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 4: thing though. To me, give me the player that has 870 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 4: the ability, is healthy and also the character stuff. Yeah, 871 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 4: and that's why a champion, That's why championed Ashton genty. 872 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 4: You know, a champion that type of player. This guy 873 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 4: might be second on the board when you start to 874 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 4: talk about the top guys that kind of does has 875 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 4: all those things. I mean, there's guys that these these 876 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 4: corners that we're talking about banged up. You know, they're 877 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 4: all the great players. This kid right here has played 878 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 4: in a ton of big games. I wouldn't feel terrible 879 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 4: about picking him. And I see why they brought him in. 880 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 4: You know, like I say, I don't think you're wiped 881 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: out if you're taking this guy because he fits the 882 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 4: things that I'm asking for a guy that I want 883 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 4: to pick in the top of the board. The character, 884 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 4: the health, and the ability. He's got all three of those. 885 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 3: And I could I think you could also look at 886 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 3: this kind of changed my perspective doing the group chat 887 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 3: article that we've got on Dallas cowboys dot com. Cowboys 888 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 3: only have five defensive tackles on their roster right now. 889 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 3: So is that something where you know, if we're talking 890 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 3: about positions of need and they feel like, Okay, we 891 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: have a need we need to fill this trying to 892 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 3: take Grant in the first round? Is Grant there is? 893 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: Do you think about Derek Harmon from Oregon? You know, 894 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 3: is if Mason Graham drops or something. I'm really high 895 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: on Walter Nolan. If Walter Nolan was the pick at twelve, 896 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: I would be happy with that. But you know, is 897 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 3: that a position where it's just there's so many things 898 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: they could do and it just comes down to, Okay, 899 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 3: do they feel like and they've said this, you know, 900 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 3: publicly to the media, but behind closed doors it could 901 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: always be different. Do they feel like they have done 902 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 3: enough in free agency that they can actually go and 903 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 3: take the best player available when pick number twelve comes. 904 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 4: Well, the thing about it the other time is they've 905 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 4: got so many needs, right, I Mean, it's like it's 906 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: not like they're folk they could focus on just one thing. 907 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 4: But you know, this draft in a lot of ways 908 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 4: kind of sets up for them at the positions, the 909 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 4: depth at corner, the depth at wide receiver, the depth 910 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 4: at running back, the depth a defensive tackle. You know, 911 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 4: they just kind of find a way to navigate this 912 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 4: thing the right way and make sure And that's why 913 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 4: I ask you guys the other day about which which 914 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 4: position would you eliminate if you didn't have a four? 915 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 4: You know which you don't you don't have a four, 916 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: but you got four need right off the jump that 917 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 4: we can think about, you know which position would you eliminate? 918 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I like I said, I think 919 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 4: they'll be fine here. I don't worry about I really 920 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 4: don't worry about the first three rounds here, I really don't. 921 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 2: It's after that where I start to worry, the fifth 922 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 2: round and sixth round and more. They have the top picks. 923 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: I would love for them to package and get back 924 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 2: into the fourth because once we get to the fifth 925 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 2: that's when things get dicey. All right, final question for 926 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 2: Twitter on the twenty you mentioned Kelvin Banks, Junior out 927 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 2: of Texas. Somebody wanted to know this just says just 928 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: the dude on Twitter? What up a news call? 929 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 11: You? 930 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,720 Speaker 5: Dude? 931 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 2: Production is a big deal in most cases. Kelvin Banks 932 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: has tremendous offensive line production against some of the college 933 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 2: game's best defensive stars. Why is he dropping? He even 934 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: used the hashtag what gives? Why would Banks be dropping 935 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 2: outside of the top fifteen picks? 936 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 4: Per se? 937 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 6: He probably because he kind of got hurt and he 938 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 6: didn't finish the season all that well. But and it 939 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 6: may not be anything bad why he failed. It may 940 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 6: just be that the guys around him they just went 941 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 6: up and he just didn't go up. 942 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, see we got the we didn't get to 943 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: the Risers through the draft. I think our guy, the 944 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 4: Missouri tackle that we were just talking about, Memboo Mimbo 945 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 4: was one of these guys that he I think he 946 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 4: started off somewhere probably in the twenties, maybe the late twenties, 947 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, I've seen him as 948 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 4: high as New England at four. You know, So that's 949 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 4: he went from being a guy that was down near 950 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 4: the bottom of the board to being in So you 951 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 4: have other guys and then you know, the people answer 952 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 4: the questions about Will Campbell. He said, you know, so 953 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: you've got you've got tackles mean personally, you know, I 954 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 4: love I keep saying this, I love Josh Simmons. I 955 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 4: think they like Josh Simmons too. So to me, you 956 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 4: have three or four tackles that that probably are better 957 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 4: than our people are evaluating, better than what Banks is right. 958 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 6: Now, Golden Memboo Guys like Booker just just rise h 959 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 6: just just getting better over the. 960 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 4: Whatever. 961 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 2: Banks and Campbell were both there from the beginning. It 962 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: was we're up there already. Yeah, so you end up 963 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 2: just kind of evening out because you have guys that 964 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 2: jump above them. Doesn't mean they did anything specific. 965 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 6: Guys like Mike Green just jumped them a little bit. 966 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 6: Just he just gets bummed down the board. 967 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 3: It is what is all right, the era of me 968 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 3: trying to step away from my Texas. The Banks's Banks 969 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 3: is a top He's number five for me overall. 970 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 5: Phenomenally, he's incredible, He's he's O T one for me. 971 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 4: And I've got I've. 972 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 6: Got you gotta lie, you gotta lie at this point. 973 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: From Will Campbell or something I've got. 974 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 4: I've got, I've got i got Will Campbell is number one. 975 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 5: I put a camera one time. 976 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we can keep the film on. It's all good. 977 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 4: That's just gonna back my point up. 978 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think this is one of those 979 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 3: things where you know, sometimes when we get late in 980 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: this process, and this is this is my first time 981 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 3: doing the draft thing, but I've noticed that the past 982 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 3: is as time goes on, I think naturally you know, 983 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 3: when the guys rise up, people just kind of overthink 984 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 3: some of these guys who started the year off as 985 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 3: these one and two guys like Banks and Campbell. I mean, 986 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: Campbell stayed pretty steadfast. He's going to be a top 987 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: ten pick more than likely, and rightfully so. But you know, 988 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 3: Banks is the guy that I've set up before his 989 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 3: second career game. He shuts down will and Anderson as 990 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 3: a true freshman in college and stayed healthy for most 991 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 3: of his career at Texas, then got banged up down 992 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 3: the stretch, made an effort to come back and play 993 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: against You know, he's trying to get on the field 994 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 3: to try and stop mikel Williams and Jalen Walker when 995 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 3: they tore him apart and in the first time that 996 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 3: they played in the regular season. So this is a 997 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: guy that checks all the boxes for you. You can 998 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 3: play him at tackle. I feel like you could play 999 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 3: him at garden. He could step up there. He'd be 1000 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 3: willing to do that. Really athletic. Moves his feet very well. 1001 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 4: Ben, Yeah, me, Ben. 1002 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 3: When you get him in space and moving, he can 1003 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 3: he can make he can make people people lay out 1004 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 3: on the ground and more than likely not get up 1005 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: and so he he plays physical and does well as 1006 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 3: an athlete too. 1007 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 4: Just I've got him. 1008 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 3: I think he's the most athletic tackle in this draft 1009 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 3: behind Membo. So there's a lot to like with Banks. 1010 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 3: And I think it's one of those things whereas the 1011 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 3: process goes on, you just kind of start to overthink 1012 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 3: a little bit and forget how good some of these 1013 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 3: players are. 1014 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 4: I think there was. 1015 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 3: A point in time where McMillan was that way, and 1016 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 3: now people are kind of starting to get back on 1017 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 3: track of like, Okay, yeah, wait, this guy is like 1018 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: a top ten player in this class, and so you know, 1019 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: you wonder if that's a guy that even gets to 1020 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 3: twelve now for Dallas. 1021 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be excited when like Chicago takes Banks 1022 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 2: at ten and we're like, Tommy's gonna be like, I see, 1023 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: I told you that was. 1024 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 3: Our in our magazine, Knock. 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If 1100 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 2: you're in Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Midland, or El Paso, 1101 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 2: mark your calendar for dates and tickets. Visit Dallas Cowboys 1102 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 2: Cheerleaders dot com slash tour. Wrapping things up here one 1103 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 2: week out from the NFL Draft. On The Draft Show 1104 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,280 Speaker 2: presented by Miller Lyte, It's Miller Time. We've got Tommy Yarish, 1105 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: Brian Bradess, Fach Lomb Party with Chris Beam in the 1106 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: back of Kyle Yeomans. All right, we started this in 1107 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 2: the first segment. We want to continue on how deep 1108 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: can you feel comfortable taking specific picks specific positions later 1109 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,800 Speaker 2: in the NFL Draft. Let's go to interior defensive line. Wotch, 1110 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,399 Speaker 2: I know you were very much so on the one 1111 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 2: tech bandwagon, trying to take a one tech to help 1112 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 2: this football team stop the run and do a couple 1113 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: different things well at the line of scrimmage. Where do 1114 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: you feel like you can get a starting one tech 1115 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 2: in this draft? 1116 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 6: I would love to get one in the second round. 1117 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 6: That'll be lovely because I think all those guys are 1118 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 6: really good like Grant Williams Harmon, you know, but that's 1119 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 6: probably not gonna work out for me. But I'm just 1120 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 6: looking at my third round guys CJ. West, Phillips, Peebles, Colin, 1121 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 6: some some people got Collins as a round two guy 1122 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,240 Speaker 6: got him in the third and that's all right. And Farmer, 1123 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 6: Josh Farmer, he's he's one of the last guys I 1124 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 6: think that can come in. And I'll just say push Mazi, 1125 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Of course, there's a bunch 1126 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 6: of guys that can push Who's Who's second guy Justin 1127 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 6: Roger Rogers. There's some guys that can that can push Justin. 1128 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 6: But just me looking at my fourth round. The one 1129 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 6: one tech guy that I have in there is called 1130 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 6: Well from Oregon. 1131 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, I was going to ask you about 1132 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 4: that because that to me, I kind of draw the 1133 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 4: line at the one technique there you have Cam Horsley, 1134 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 4: you have him higher or lower than that. 1135 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 5: I got Horseley in the high fifths. 1136 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 4: Okay, So yeah, I mean that to me, I kind 1137 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 4: of I kind of look at Well is the guy 1138 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 4: that I would would draw the line at. And then 1139 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 4: I'm kind of thinking about in the for the then 1140 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 4: that's a for a one technique, but on the on 1141 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 4: the three, the three side of things maybe go down. 1142 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 4: Pegeese might be the guy from Old Miss that. I'm 1143 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 4: kind of thinking that now. But there's some guys like 1144 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 4: I say that the Riley Mills and stuff like that 1145 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 4: from Notre Dame Ty robertson. I think Ty Robinson needs 1146 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 4: to like lose weight and kind of play. But but 1147 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 4: I I kind of feel like that maybe that uh, 1148 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 4: that that that Pegeese is as a three and then 1149 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 4: Calwell is a one would be that for me. Yeah, 1150 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 4: I like Caldwell a lot. 1151 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,720 Speaker 3: I think I think Caldwell and Collins from Texas would 1152 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 3: be the perfect fits for Dallas in terms of, hey, 1153 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 3: we just need you to come in and stop the 1154 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 3: run like that. 1155 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 4: That's what those two guys did. 1156 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 3: Well Collins and Texas and then Caldwell at both Houston 1157 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 3: and Oregon. 1158 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 4: So that's good fit. 1159 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 3: So I think that would be as far back as 1160 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 3: I would want to go, just because you look at 1161 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 3: this team and like I said, they got five defensive 1162 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 3: tackles on the roster right now, this is a music 1163 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 3: show where they need some help. We talked about Robinson 1164 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 3: on Tuesday Show. 1165 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 4: I like him a lot. 1166 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 3: You know, obviously he's He's probably more of a three 1167 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 3: guy and more of a five gap potentially guy too. 1168 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 3: I'm not as high on Williams from Ohio State, but 1169 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 3: if you can get him in a value spot, I 1170 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 3: think he'd be good. 1171 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 5: What do you mean, like a value spot for Williams 1172 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 5: from ohuse Williams from House? 1173 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 3: What do you mean if people see him like I see, 1174 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 3: I have him in the third? If he drops the third, 1175 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 3: I think I'm comfortable with that. I know that's a 1176 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 3: why would Why would he drop to the third? 1177 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 4: Though? Time? 1178 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 3: I so when I watch him, I see I see 1179 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,879 Speaker 3: really strong, but he doesn't move his feet. I don't 1180 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 3: see it. And maybe I could be wrong. This could 1181 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 3: be one where I'm kicking myself when we come back 1182 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 3: here next year. But I think he is just reliant 1183 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 3: too much on his strength and not as much moving laterally. Obviously, 1184 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 3: he does a good job stop in the run, but 1185 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 3: struggles to get pushed the line of scrimmage against inferior competition. 1186 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 3: Should makes up for it by getting five blockers and 1187 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 3: bringing down ball carriers. Gets in the quarterbacks face pretty 1188 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 3: well and has his hands up to knock down passes, 1189 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 3: not a huge throw as a pass rusher out that 1190 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 3: they need that the Cowboys at a one tech spot. 1191 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 3: But I don't know, I was I watched him twice. 1192 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 3: I did kind of what everybody does where it's like, okay, 1193 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,760 Speaker 3: let me see if I saw this guy right and. 1194 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 6: Time was sipping that whiskey and when he was watching jams. 1195 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 6: You're actually high on tylerk will I love Tyler? Where 1196 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 6: do you have him? I got him in the second 1197 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 6: got him the second round, second round, like like a 1198 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 6: true second round guy, like not like a second round 1199 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 6: that'll go eighteen or something like that. Like he's a 1200 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,840 Speaker 6: guy that the middle second right around the fort is 1201 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 6: in fifties. So Tommy, Tommy got him halfway. Like he 1202 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 6: is strong as all get out, but I think that 1203 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 6: he that he moves a little better than I think 1204 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 6: tom is giving a little bit of credit for there's 1205 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 6: many plays where they're running some outside zone stuff and 1206 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 6: he's hustling and shoveling his ass over to get those plays. 1207 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 6: So that's the that's the that's the one thing that 1208 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 6: I kind of, you know, I'm just look at his. 1209 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 5: Big boys just running all over the place, and. 1210 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 6: Look, he's the one sake. So he's not gonna be 1211 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,760 Speaker 6: a full blown pass rusher. He's more of a packet pushing, 1212 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 6: you know kind of guy. 1213 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 5: Whatever. 1214 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 6: But as far as like run down latter athleticism or whatever. 1215 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 6: Let him run over there and you know, do some 1216 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 6: do some b gaps, He gap things. I think he 1217 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 6: makes plays versus run all over the place. But that's 1218 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 6: where I got him. I got him in the second round. 1219 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 6: I'm gonna stand on now when you know, Tommy, you 1220 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 6: my guy put him in the third. But but you know, 1221 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 6: third round, Man's I don't know, Man's Isley gonna be gone. 1222 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 4: It's funny that I understand where you're going here, Tommy. 1223 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 4: I think this guy could play all the line positions. 1224 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 4: I think you could kind of move him even you 1225 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 4: have to play like this a five technique as an end. 1226 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 4: They put him out there head up end. The guy 1227 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 4: that I feel like that I'm wrong about that, I'm 1228 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 4: not high enough on is Collins from Texas. That's the 1229 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,359 Speaker 4: guy in the third round where Votch is. You're looking 1230 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,760 Speaker 4: at me like you're nuts. 1231 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 5: I'm with you on it. 1232 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 2: You're in the third round. I've got him in the 1233 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: third two. 1234 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 4: Okay, everybody thinks that I I kind of feel like 1235 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 4: that Collins might be a guy that you have to make. 1236 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 4: He might go late too or in the second round. 1237 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,440 Speaker 4: I just don't know when the run of these guys 1238 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 4: is going to start. There's going to be a run 1239 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 4: in this draft of these three hundred and twenty pound 1240 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 4: defensive linemen in these tackles, and I wonder, I wonder 1241 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 4: if you're gonna have to take Collins earlier than the 1242 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 4: third round. 1243 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 6: See, Collins looks really good, and he has all the 1244 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 6: things that the that the pros want. 1245 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 5: He's a big, great move and. 1246 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 4: This guy's three hundred and thirty four pounds. By the way. 1247 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, Collins, Williams, will Good, William Josh. 1248 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 6: Collins' hands get a little weird for me, like like 1249 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 6: his technique, and I think he gets lost a little bit, 1250 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 6: like in the in the play, like he's so focused 1251 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 6: on whooping the guy in front of him that he'll get, 1252 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 6: you know, lost with the run or whatever. But I 1253 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 6: think Williams is the opposite that, like Williams, will Stack, 1254 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 6: shd find the ball, play the ball, and they they 1255 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 6: buff can get a little high a little bit. You know, 1256 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 6: pat love is a problem for a lot of the 1257 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 6: guys in this thing. But you know, just out of 1258 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 6: those two, I think Williams is better technically, so that's 1259 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 6: why I give him the go. But Brian hates ceiling 1260 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 6: talk or whatever. But Collins has the much high ceiling. Yeah, 1261 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 6: because Collins has a lot more room. 1262 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 4: To real quick that where you got hermon in all this? 1263 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 4: Then Harmon, because see Harmon is not a three d 1264 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,720 Speaker 4: and thirty pound guy. No, Harmon's three thirteen. So I wondered, 1265 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 4: is you know, do you kind of see him as 1266 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 4: a wander do you see him more as a three? 1267 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 6: I got him as a one that can play three? Yeah, 1268 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 6: see super athletic moving one that can't. 1269 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 3: Play Yeah, the agility and stuff like that. So okay, 1270 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 3: I love Harmon. He's my third, okay, behind Graham and Nolan. 1271 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 3: Then Grant after Harmon, Oh. 1272 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 5: Grant, Yeah, you got Kenny Grant after Harmon after Harmon? Time? 1273 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 4: What was going on? 1274 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, what are you watching now? 1275 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 5: You ain't getting out? 1276 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyler, Williams and Collins are both in the early 1277 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: parts of the third for me, so I think either 1278 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 2: one of those guys touching tags. They're not going to 1279 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 2: be there at seventy six. In my opinion, Williams and Collins, 1280 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 2: when you're looking at at attempting to take a starting 1281 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 2: defensive tackle, I think you've got to do it in 1282 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 2: forty four. Before forty four. If you take anybody after that, 1283 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 2: it's a rotational piece, which I think you could be 1284 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 2: okay with, but it's not what you're trying to get. 1285 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 2: I like Peebles, I like some of these other guys 1286 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 2: like you mentioned West from Indiana, Farmer from Florida State. 1287 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,360 Speaker 2: You can maybe get those guys at seventy six, but 1288 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 2: I think even that's gonna be back to what Brian 1289 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 2: was saying, dependent on when this run happens, because there 1290 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 2: will be a run where teams pair these defensive tackles, 1291 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 2: these big body guys. There's not a ton of guys 1292 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 2: like that that really stand out to me. It's a 1293 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 2: select list, and I think because of that, they're going. 1294 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 4: To go pretty early. I know we have just a 1295 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 4: few minutes left here. Tommy Reid Grant. 1296 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 3: For me, Grant, Yeah, I gotcha quick for his size, 1297 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 3: athletics sacrifice to some of his power, causing to get 1298 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 3: pushed back at times, but he's still got plenty of 1299 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 3: ability to flatten somebody doesn't give up on the play, 1300 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 3: even when he's double team and moved around, gets his 1301 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 3: hands up and throwing win at a bat down passes. 1302 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 3: I think he's a really good player. I just think 1303 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 3: Harmon can do it all. I mean you mentioned playing 1304 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 3: one tech or three tech. I mean he can line 1305 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 3: up anywhere, gets after the passer phil well and run gaps, 1306 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 3: really good motor. He's shrunk the line of scrimmage, moves 1307 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 3: his feet, keeps him active to to keep pushing and 1308 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 3: keep the play alive. From his standpoint, I like, I mean, 1309 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 3: they're they're not that far apart. I don't think in 1310 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 3: terms of I mean, like I said, they're touching tags 1311 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 3: for me, they're not that far apart. 1312 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 4: You know. I just I like harm it a little bit. 1313 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 2: Where did you have him Grant? Did you have him 1314 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 2: in the second grant? 1315 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 4: Second? Yeah? 1316 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah, you're just you just like a 1317 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 2: guy better. So yeah, stand on your your thought. 1318 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 4: I'm standing on all my takes here that I'm on 1319 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 4: an island. 1320 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 5: Change his mine and then like he's just he's just wrong. 1321 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 4: That's fine. 1322 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 2: Well down the line. 1323 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 3: If I'm wrong, that's fine, I'll on it. I'll fall 1324 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 3: on the sword. But I just I don't know what 1325 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 3: it is. 1326 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 4: To do this long enough. You'd be wrong a lot. 1327 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 2: That's exactly if we're all wrong all the time. Walter Nolan, 1328 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: do you have him in the defensive tackle conversation or 1329 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 2: do you have him elsewhere? 1330 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 4: It's like, you mean like the one. 1331 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: Tech three tech, he's a three, he's a three yea 1332 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 2: three from So do you have him on a separate 1333 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 2: list or where do you have this? 1334 00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:58,440 Speaker 4: No, I've got all this one list. 1335 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 3: I've got Nolan is my best defensive tackle behind Graham, 1336 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 3: and that's been the case since we started. Yeah, you've 1337 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 3: been on that. Yeah, Yeah, I think he's just quick, powerful. 1338 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 3: You know, you don't see a lot from Nolan because 1339 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,919 Speaker 3: they double team him all the time where he's gotta 1340 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 3: he's still getting through that. 1341 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 4: He's been double team since. 1342 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 3: He was the number one overall recruit coming out of 1343 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,640 Speaker 3: high school a couple of years ago. And he went 1344 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 3: to that Texas A and M class and it hasn't 1345 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 3: stopped since you watched the old mistape. 1346 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 4: It happened to him there Texas A and M. 1347 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,439 Speaker 3: For whatever reason, just didn't put him on the field, 1348 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 3: and that's why you saw the mass portal exodus that 1349 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 3: they had with all their players. Yeah, he's just an 1350 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 3: incredible player, super athletic, throws guys off of him, gets 1351 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 3: pressure through those double teams, fills the run. 1352 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 2: Well, I like this guy a lot. Let's do offensive 1353 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 2: line real quick. Where would be the latest you would 1354 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 2: take a starting offensive lineman? 1355 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 6: Uh, let's see. So I like Booker, Jackson, Zabel, Milon 1356 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 6: rad Lest, I like Lamping a little more than you 1357 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 6: know some. 1358 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 14: Just start with the guys that you have currently. Hey, man, 1359 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 14: I'm talking about like starting. I'm gonna I'm gonna bump 1360 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,680 Speaker 14: into Brock and he ain't gonna like me. Man, But 1361 00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,800 Speaker 14: I think I think Milon Radless, Jackson, Isabel, Booker push him. 1362 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 14: Lampkin is probably more of a more of a center 1363 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 14: type guy, so he ain't pushing bb uh Connor Kobe's 1364 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 14: probably what he is right now. So yeah, so it's 1365 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 14: like third round for me for guard. 1366 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 4: Miles Fraser, l s U and then here we go home. 1367 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 5: I like Miles Fraser too, so Yo. 1368 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 4: Reville, I know and I and I know there's some 1369 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 4: people Jonah from Zona go back another guy that people 1370 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 4: have kind of talked about, but I kind of I 1371 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 4: kind of feel like that Miles Fraser from l s 1372 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 4: U would be kind of where I'm at on the 1373 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 4: starting guards. I know that there's a love for uh 1374 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 4: for Caleb Rogers from Texas Tech and so yeah, but 1375 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 4: I think Miles I think we're talking about Miles Fraser here. 1376 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 4: I think he would be probably where I'm at as 1377 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 4: far as that last starting guy right now. 1378 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 3: I think the furthest back I would go. I've got 1379 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 3: Luke Candra from Cincinnati. I've got him in the fourth. 1380 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 3: I think that would be the furthest back. 1381 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,959 Speaker 2: So you feel like he could push somebody at that point? 1382 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 4: Good? Yeah, I like I like Candra a lot. 1383 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 3: I don't feel like we're talking about enough really good player. 1384 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 2: I've got him in the third. I like him a 1385 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 2: lot too. I don't know if he would be a 1386 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 2: seventy six possibility or not. He's collecting, but I like 1387 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 2: him enough to be in that conversation. You've brought him 1388 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 2: up before, I've got the hook him Momoji next to him. 1389 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,760 Speaker 2: There you go, so I know you've brought him up. 1390 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 2: I like Jonah from Zona a lot. I think that 1391 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 2: would be the last name I have as a starting 1392 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: caliber that's going to push the guy that you have 1393 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 2: right now, which would beat brock Hoffman in this case. 1394 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 2: And so I feel pretty good about either one of 1395 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 2: those guys. So you would have to do that, maybe 1396 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 2: any one of those top three picks. Either way, you're 1397 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 2: having to address some needs and you're gonna have to 1398 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 2: do so early in the top eighty picks of this 1399 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 2: NFL Draft. Things are gonna get dicey coming up next 1400 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 2: week when the NFL Draft gets underway on Thursday. 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