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Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles Gangster the Goals. We're gonna tell you how

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Speaker 1: James and Bixtil strictly from the streets. Hello, we welcome

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Speaker 1: to another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. I'm with

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Speaker 1: my homeboys. Nick James eight was craving what's happening? Man?

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Speaker 1: know California is the land of sunshine, beaches and palm trees,

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Speaker 1: but it has a dangerous underbelly and two thousand nineteen

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Speaker 1: you doing man? You know it's a lot of California.

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Speaker 1: It's because of the pandemic. It seemed like it got worship.

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Speaker 1: we do. However, to the flip side of that point

425
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: is the resources they go into a high profile murder

426
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: or some kid from USC who's playing football versus a

427
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: guy down and who got shot for linker starts the resources.

428
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: Then the oftentimes all the difference, you know, because these

429
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: investigations get really expensive. So who would be killed? Big

430
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Tony the pimp, He should gonna go in the cold

431
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: cases because you know, we're trying to saw this ship. Yeah,

432
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: they got pill the book a badass for us. So

433
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: I mean it's like they pick and choose what what

434
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: we really need to go after? Who we really If

435
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: this guy killed the five year old girl and reaped

436
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: the five year old girl, we gotta get him off

437
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: the street, right opposed to us killing each other and

438
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: just mane each other on the round. So it's basically

439
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: these is gonna keep happening. But this cat crossed the

440
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: line raping and killing the fire your child, them in

441
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: the pedophiles. We got to get off of there. Regardless

442
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: how many of these cases we saw, they're gonna keep coming.

443
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: And you know, there's victims and then there's truly any victims.

444
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: Victims part if you're a gangster and you're in that

445
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 1: game and you're putting yourself into a situation where you're

446
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: likely to get killed, you're contributing to that, you know.

447
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: So so I like a kid who's you know, walking

448
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: home from school and gets hit by straight boy and

449
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: I never understood that part um pain is pain. I

450
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: didn't understand that until my brother Alexon died. Uh, the

451
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: face I saw my mom's, the the way my sister

452
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: and them cried. I mean my mom my mom pain

453
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: was like she was just straight wounded, you know what

454
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it was like, damn, mona. Was there

455
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: nothing I could say? And I just had to sit

456
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: there and think, like, damn, it's just what I do.

457
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: The people, just the reaction the families get, so you

458
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: gotta look at it. It's the mama's, the unties, the

459
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: the babies, the girlfriends. You affect maybe a thousand lives

460
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: just by one one person, you know what I'm saying.

461
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: And then we do this over the course of our lives.

462
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: And then when it hit home, you're like, damn, it's

463
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: it's definitely not a victimous crime because I couldn't know.

464
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm imagine losing the child, and I like, you gotta

465
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: think about this. No matter what that person is doing,

466
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: whether he a pamp, gangster or whoever, there's somebody out

467
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: to the love that dude. There's somebody out that the

468
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: love that woman, you know, So it's definitely and That's

469
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: why I think I wanted to talk about it so much.

470
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: We have been talking about over the past two days,

471
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: just talking about this. A lot of unnecessary violence out here,

472
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: and I think, and I don't even feel a shame

473
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: seeing this. I think it's black and black crime. It's

474
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: just worse than anything else. I think black people do

475
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: each other worse than any other. Like, I think we're

476
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: the biggest threat to each other, you know, bigger than

477
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: any police officer, bigger than anybody else. It's just like,

478
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: because when you grow up in these poverty stricken neighborhoods

479
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: and ghettos, and you know, mama on the county getting

480
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: county checks and motherfucker's don't be seeing. It's no hope.

481
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: And then so the first thing you do is go

482
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: join the gang and you start serving and doing all

483
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: that ship, and that's your fucking mentality. It's like, Okay,

484
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: that's my brother, that's my brother. But I wasn't taught

485
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: that ship. But being from the being, being from the neighborhood,

486
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: you know why, I can only speak for me. I

487
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: took the hood over family my possible ship, you know

488
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And once that once that cat was

489
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: out the picture. It was the hood. It was it

490
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: was the homes too. Took that place that they filled

491
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: that boy for me and watching the older guys, the

492
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: only way you're gonna survive and making in the hood

493
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: is too start paying attention toward's real they're going on,

494
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: and how to react and what fights you pick and choose.

495
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: And it just made it easier going home at night

496
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: and going to sleep, but then wake up at Craig

497
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: and dawn and and get that beer and you're back

498
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: in the hood doing your thing. That was my comfort zone,

499
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So everything that came with

500
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: being a game member, a lot of cats didn't get it.

501
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: A lot of cats didn't get it. A lot of

502
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: people thought a lot of game bankers thought that robbing,

503
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: snatching purses and and and all that that extra ship

504
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: was a part of being a gang member. That's not

505
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: a part of being a game member. Being a part

506
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: of the game and being a gang banger is winning

507
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: your colors to be recognized and to be ready for war,

508
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: and that that that sets you different from everything else

509
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: out there. If you want to go bring in the house,

510
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: that ain't praying on the people that that ain't game members.

511
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: I hated that type of ship because that's not what

512
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: game banging was about, you know what I'm saying, snatching

513
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: the old lady person you need to get your ass for.

514
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: But more fockers was out there doing their thing that way.

515
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: And then come back in the hood down they're sagging

516
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: their pants and they did, and they that it's just

517
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: so different, you know what I'm saying. But the purpose

518
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: of being it don't change the fact that that the

519
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: ship that we did and the things that I know

520
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: I destroyed, you know, being a game member down there's

521
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: something totally different. And as you get older, you you're

522
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: you're looking at ship like man, you know what I'm saying,

523
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: And I think, I think God that that I've seen it.

524
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: After Alton was killed, I don't seen a whole lot

525
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: of the homies die. I didn't have him die. My

526
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: arm Kenny tell us, I mean, I watched them tickets

527
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: last brother, But it was nothing like my brother. Seeing

528
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: my brother at a gas station laying there full of holes.

529
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: And when we got in the hospital and seeing this

530
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: ship and and his eyes still open and they won't

531
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: let me touch him through a nutty This is mine, right, here.

532
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I've never been in a

533
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: situation like that, so it was totally different. And what

534
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: kind of interesting It just goes back to we're saying

535
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: like there was a business, but until it wasn't just

536
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: business exactly. We all gotta understand there's a flip side

537
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: to what we're doing, and that usually it takes you

538
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: that direction, the high road or the lower brand feeling.

539
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: It's always that decision. Yeah, you know, and what percentage

540
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: of those cases going solved? Because I think you know,

541
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: I see Mothers on TV and you will hear about

542
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: the detective solved in the case for twenty years agoing

543
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: to Mama's just crying like it's yesterday. I think it's

544
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: that sense of closure, that feeling of closure, you know,

545
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: like Okay, this guy's go be punished for what he did.

546
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's death, because when that guy

547
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: goes to jail, you still go feel it don't bring

548
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: nobody back. What do you think is that you being

549
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: around that situation? Man? What do you think the parents

550
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: go through? Do you think people go through a lot?

551
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: They go through a lot of mental anguish Man, When

552
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: did you guys decide to say this is enough, like

553
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: we can't do nothing, We can't find these guys. Never

554
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: really over with yet. Well, you know, we we try

555
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: to exhaust every avenue of investigation. We try to, you know,

556
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: you use every resource available and exhausted until it either

557
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: goes cold, where you've done everything you can, you just

558
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: can't make it work. You can't get all the you know,

559
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: puzzle pieces to make a picture and see your stuck um.

560
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: At other times, other things get involved. You know, you

561
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: get there's there's you know, there's there's legal parameters and

562
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: in obstacles that you have to overcome. You could sit

563
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: and have really you know what happened. You know that

564
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: maybe that confession was illegally obtained. Now you can't prosecute

565
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: that guy, and so there's it's it's very complicated um scenario.

566
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: But ultimately, you know, the game things were the hardest

567
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: because of just this culture of the people that knew

568
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: what happened aren't going to tell you what happened. They're

569
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: gonna nobody is saying nothing them. It's nest has always

570
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: been in every neighborhood, even in Cleveland where we didn't

571
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: have a gag thing back then. But I heard it's different.

572
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: I heard they've got gangs up there. And though even

573
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: that was young, you was always talked to mind of

574
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: your business. You don't open your mouth up about nobody's stuff,

575
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So something happened, if you

576
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: know the rudy depend on the corner shot, somebody shot

577
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: a trick. You was always talking. I didn't see nothing.

578
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what you're talking about.

579
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you. You You don't even want to

580
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. You didn't even want to be seen

581
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: talking to the police, you know. I mean, the guy

582
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: had is no pad off back in the day. You

583
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: don't want to be seen talking to because you can

584
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: wind up in a dick somewhere. So if if somebody

585
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: shot your mom in front of you, and and and

586
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: killed your mama right in front of you, and the

587
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: police asked you who did it, what you're gonna tell

588
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: don't I'm not gonna say. I'm saying I don't know

589
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna kill that motherfucker myself. I don't

590
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: know who did it. I want to go handle this myself,

591
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: because I do think it's a such thing as hood justice.

592
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't want him to go kich. So it ain't revenge.

593
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's yeah, deficially, I'm killing my mom. It's like

594
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: a motherfucker, it's still revenge. I don't kill y y'all flipsis.

595
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: I didn't tell Gregg. I don't know who did it.

596
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get me the biggest pistol of the

597
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: fun and go. If I can't get him, I'm gonna

598
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: probably hear everybody else around them. I'm gonna make him

599
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: feel the pain you're talking about, mama. You know in

600
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: a lot of way that that's true justice. And when

601
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: you think about Orlando killing Tupac and you think about poo,

602
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: you're killing big You know, they didn't go jail and

603
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: sit there for years. They got killed on the streets

604
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: in the same way that they know exacted their own

605
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: sense of justice on And so you've got this situation

606
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: like for me, that's perfect justice is an eye for

607
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: an eye. You kill somebody, you need to get killed yourself.

608
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: That's how it works. Is that had to be. And

609
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: there's biblical like to keep one wish that's biblical. It's like,

610
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: I'm not bothering nobody, Mama own, but if you come

611
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: text one of mine to bring the whole own reason

612
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Trojans and Smartens and all the motherfucker's ship you kill

613
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: the motherfucker and coming with a thousand ships about I

614
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: got an honest question, Greg, George Floyd, do you think

615
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: there's racism is a two part racism in the police

616
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: depart racist police officers in the police department? And did

617
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: you think what that officer did to George Floyd just

618
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: sitting on his nick was right? No, I can't say

619
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: that I think it was right. Um. I think that

620
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: there was a lot of contributing factors. Though I don't

621
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: think that that in and of itself is what got

622
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: George killed. But I think that there was other things

623
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: going on physiologically obviously that I was on his neck

624
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: way too long, But there was a lot of things

625
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: that contributed to that death. The whole thing was just

626
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: an extremely unfortunate situation. Um. But yeah, I don't know.

627
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't know shopping. I think this is the pronunciation

628
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know what that guy's perspective

629
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: is on race. So I don't know that man, So

630
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: I can't speak for him. Obviously, we can speculate or

631
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: he must be racist because he's kneeling on the neck.

632
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I can't I want to elaborate

633
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: on that. I want to take a little bit. I

634
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: don't know the man, and I don't want to elaborate

635
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: on that. Okay, cool, Well we're gonna take a break

636
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: right now. We'll be back with more Gangster chronicles in

637
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: a minute. And we're back with more Gangster chronicles. You

638
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: have something to say before the brigade? Um, I want

639
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: to elaborate on the what James was saying earlier about,

640
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, the George Floyd thing. And my thing is,

641
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: do you feel, as being a former officer, how do

642
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: you feel about how uh you're assigned to different areas?

643
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: You know, how does the process go that gets you

644
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: to patrol minority areas as opposed to going somewhere like

645
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills or whatever. So how is that, you know,

646
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: uh played out? Because I feel that sometimes you should

647
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: evaluate the officers and get the try to figure out

648
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: who should work certain areas. You should see who has

649
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: the tolerance to deal with motherfucker's like I used to

650
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: be as a youth for James or whatever, because let's

651
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: face it, you send a white guy to the area

652
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: where it's a gang of black niggas and ship like that,

653
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be uprest unless there were certain cops that

654
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: could come through the neighborhood that we knew that we're

655
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: cool as opposed to here comes so and so you

656
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: know we're fitna get fucked with. So how does how

657
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: does that work to where you know a motherfucker might

658
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: have a certain attitude towards but then they elect to

659
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: patrol this area. All right, So I can only speak

660
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: as it applies to mp D because that's my experience. Um,

661
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: it's it's relatively random. What you what you do is

662
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: you put in a wish list for where you want

663
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: to work. A lot of us, including myself, you know,

664
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: we wanted to work the places that the we're the

665
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: most action was just because that's the most exciting. I

666
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: want to go where things are happening because I want

667
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: to learn more and have more opportunities to get engaged with,

668
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, police work. I don't want to work in

669
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: a sleepy area and you know, sitting around waiting for

670
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: a burglar alarm to go off. Some of its ladies cats,

671
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I wanted to go and learn and

672
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: be you know, I want to do go and engage,

673
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: not in a bad way that I wanted to go

674
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: somewhere where police work was active. And uh, but to

675
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: your question, it's random. You put in a wish list.

676
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: I put in like I want to work Southwest seventy

677
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: seventh and Newton Division. I ended up in a new

678
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: division in South Central, but all three of those divisions

679
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I put in, we're south Central, and it was just

680
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: because that's where most of the action was happening. And

681
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: as a job, it's more exciting just and honestly it's

682
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: it's more exciting and so you're more challenged. You get

683
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, you have an opportunity to really see what

684
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: you're made of, Like how am I going to behave

685
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: and reacting these kind of different environments that I that

686
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't exposed to as a kid. But it's not

687
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: in a nefarious way. It's they're just because I want

688
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: to go and learn and so. But I can also

689
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: to your point though, because I think I know where

690
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: you're kind of going with this, Man, I'm telling you

691
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: some of the African African American cops that I work with,

692
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: they were vicious, probably worse than the Yeah, so you know,

693
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: it's a really it comes down to the individual. And

694
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: then that's kind of strange, you know, James, because I

695
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: was trying to elaborate on the George Floyd thing and

696
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: shaving and you know, the next situation, and it was

697
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: obvious you was angry to be in that particular area

698
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: of patrolling. This is this is what I believe. I

699
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, before you start

700
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: your ship till me if I'm wrong. My my thing

701
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: is to come home. But that sets it off as

702
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: soon as you get in that car and you don't

703
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna face today on the beach, you

704
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you got some officers, all

705
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: officers ain't really equipped for it because everybody got a

706
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: little fear in them when certain things happened, and when

707
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: when certain things happened, you're not thinking just like us,

708
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But at the end of

709
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: the day, I'm gonna do my job and I want

710
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: to go home. But what happens if you get into

711
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: situation of shooting or or just because that one person

712
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: had a gun and a lot of cats are being

713
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 1: shot because there's no, ain't no morning shots. We're gonna

714
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: popped his mother because we ain't gonna give me a

715
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: chance to shoot us. I'm going home at the end

716
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: of the day to my wife. So just like when

717
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: I was speaking about Eric Barradon, he came. He was

718
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, he was working at the pool. He

719
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: was being pumped, you know what I'm saying. And now

720
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: he's a police officer. Now he has a grudge against

721
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: those that that was punking him. So now, being a

722
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: top I got action to get back at him. And

723
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: then you see that mentality. The mentality is like you said,

724
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: it's random. I could choose them any fucking wearing patrol.

725
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm going back there because I won't be able to

726
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: funk with mother. So again and that no what what

727
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: what happened? I was in a situation. It was a shooting,

728
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: and my stupid as you know, I ain't looking back

729
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: and this and that they were. I'm in a turn

730
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: of lane and catch drove up. We in the situation.

731
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: He's two cars behind me and when when they seen it,

732
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: we hit it. We hit the left. They came right afterwards.

733
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: But bye, But now I'm in jail and it's all

734
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: these police officers in the hold of tank, and they said,

735
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I just caught him. Read had to move.

736
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: You ain't called me doing ship. So he went big

737
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: on me, but by me knowing Eric, you ain't evenna

738
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: hit me, mother funker. I don't even get me his cop.

739
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: And it was fortunate for me that Reggie right was there,

740
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: senior and grabbed me and set my ass down. Do

741
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: you know that? For the whoop your ass up in here?

742
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: And and he had action at that because it's just

743
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: me and jail faced with all these other police officers,

744
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: but just me being me, I had to lash back

745
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: at it. You know what I'm saying, because I know

746
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Eric is a weenie. You know what I'm saying. But

747
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: the badge, how do you like? I can do what

748
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: I want to do? Now I can't get So I

749
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: was faced. The tables turned on me because now in

750
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: your cor he's not a lifeguard, he's a police officer.

751
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: He's with his game now. Okay, So now he got

752
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: asked to take everything that I've been to him and

753
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: get your pa and he hadn't. I can do that.

754
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: So it's I know for a fact that it's police

755
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: officers out there that are are nervous of their jobs,

756
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: So why pick to patrol what? You know? Motherfucker's That's

757
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: actually a great point, and I think if there is

758
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: reform that is probably you gotta do that. You you

759
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: should never be on the work where you are going

760
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: to be encountering people that you got a pure group

761
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: against that you know you shouldn't. That's what I'm saying.

762
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: He took it a point like one. He became a cop.

763
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: He know when our greedy and he is over there.

764
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: He grew up over there. He made a deep at

765
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: to fucking choice and when I put this badge on,

766
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: I want to patrol there. So but then again, so

767
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of probably gonna second guest. I remember

768
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: working with this guy named Andy Thedford, and he grew

769
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: up in the neighborhood that he patrolled, and he was

770
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: a fantastic officer, and he just saw generations of kids,

771
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, over his thirty year career. And because he

772
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: knew his neighborhood and he knew a lot of these kids,

773
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: that's what made him so good is because he had

774
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: an insight that guys like me could never have had, really, right,

775
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a double edged sword because you

776
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: know you're going back. Yeah, you can have beef with

777
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: people and try to get even using your badge and

778
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: your gun in your authority. At the same time, maybe

779
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: the best guys somebody who understands those neighborhoods better than

780
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: anybody else, which which is good. But he used to

781
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: get his asks. It's not because exactly getting talked. Now,

782
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: what if he would have caught me on a bad

783
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: night walking through the apartment at loss and then he

784
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: pulled me over and then he got me right there

785
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: when they go if he's shoot and killed me, this

786
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: is morb James. This guy is look at his record

787
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: him so everything is gone. It's justified. It's justified. So

788
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: my life didn't mean at this point because now here

789
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: my history is catching up with me. I'm facing a

790
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: cat that I used to get your bit sit your

791
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: bitch now, y'all gonna go, you know what I'm saying.

792
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: And then now here he is, he can do whatever

793
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: he wants to me, you feel me. So my whole

794
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: point is that you have police officers that that that

795
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm scared when they get out there, they and the

796
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: flowing just like mine everybody is pumped up. Do they

797
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: have that that that Okay, I can handle the situation.

798
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: I know how to handle this situation now. Like Reggie

799
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: Wright Singer, He've been in a whole bunch of situations.

800
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: Half the catch put their ship down and you got

801
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: me red, you know what I'm saying. But the ones

802
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: that done with my ass, I'm not giving up to them.

803
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: I can't surrender to them because I know what's going

804
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: to happen now that up guy beat up so many

805
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: times in the back of the police car or bent

806
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: over that car so many times. Oh he ain't benna

807
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: catch me. He ain't gonna let him get me, you

808
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But all police officers ain't bad,

809
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: and you're a prime example of that. But people don't know,

810
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just like they didn't know

811
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: that area's out here now. But everyone's getting pumped Did

812
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: we put him in the situation? But they don't know

813
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: that he's going where Catch used to do him like this,

814
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And nobody would never know.

815
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: If I want to told the story about the ones

816
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood exactly, this white killed him. James got

817
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: killed because was scared of him and James Ship. But

818
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: what your police officers, you know what I'm saying, And

819
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: my question, greg is and I don't want you to

820
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to put you out there like that

821
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: to say. I want you to say it. It's all

822
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: police officers good to be on the force. Do you

823
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: think that every police officer has that training to be

824
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: on the streets. Well, it's certainly not. I mean, you

825
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: look back at some of the examples of guys that

826
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: just within the LAPD that should never have had badges,

827
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: that David Max and the Raphael Presis and the people

828
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: that just had no business doing that, but you know,

829
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: they were there. And we've got to deal with the

830
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: fact that it's the fallible. It's a it's a human institution,

831
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: and there's valiability, and you're gonna have bad seeds, you know,

832
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, in that profession, you just can't afford to

833
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: have bad seeds because there's so much at stake. And

834
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: you know so, but it's it's never gonna be a

835
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: perfect equation. We can't have robots, we can't get people

836
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: out there that can you know, and and and you

837
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: and and fear is a big factor. And you know

838
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: you brought up you were an environment where being around

839
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: guns and violence and stuff, you could tell their fear

840
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: because you're exposed to it. They have cops that aren't

841
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: exposed to that. All of a sudden encountering that and

842
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: that fear goes, you know, through your veins, and so

843
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: maybe you overreact. It's not necessarily out of like it's

844
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: some bad intention. It's just you overreact with situation that

845
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: you're not fully equipped to deal with because you didn't

846
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: grow up in an environment where guns and violence and

847
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: ship like that with second nature, And now you did.

848
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: That's just like one of the war. You know, I

849
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: didn't want to be here, but I'm here, this is

850
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: my job. And then now I'm faced with gang members

851
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: with with guns. I don't know what they got in

852
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: this car, and and I truly believe if I was

853
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: a police officer, I'm gonna walk to the car with

854
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: my hand on my gun because I don't know. That

855
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: part is understandable. But you gotta know when the time

856
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: is right. If you're not ready for the time is right,

857
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of us is getting killed. You

858
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Me and Reggie had an issue

859
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: with how police do certain things. When when you say

860
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: I didn't want to speak, I don't, I don't ask

861
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: questions made you feel if you don't, if you tell

862
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: me something like that, I'm gonna get mad. And now

863
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: you don't pitch me off. Now I'm gonna do this

864
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: and that to you. Now I want to search your card,

865
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: whether you've got license, insurance or whatever. Now I'm gonna

866
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: pull you out and treat you a different kind of way.

867
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: So it's basically, if you ain't kiss in my asses, yes, certainly,

868
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: no shirt. We're gonna have a bad day. Now, what

869
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: happens when you run into that one police officer that

870
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: that's having a bad day and come to work because

871
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: he mattered his wife? You in trouble? Are you just

872
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: running to a game manner that you really feel like,

873
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't care no more. It's like I look at

874
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: the whole situation with police like this is they they

875
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: still human beings, just like you got asshole that might

876
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: live the next door to you, and he might be

877
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: the grocery manager. You grocery manager, ass So that same

878
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: dude come a cop. He's a cop that as so

879
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: now you're doing and I think whenever you have that

880
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: human element, you always go have some kind of room

881
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: for error, because, like you said in the rodbots, like

882
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: um they talked about in the l A County you know,

883
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: um Shaff Department, that it's a game there called executioners.

884
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: There's a big game there. And apparently this guy aust

885
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: Berthrow Gonzalez, you know, he had knowledgely he put it

886
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: an anonymous hip. This dude, we're doing some bad ship.

887
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: He gets a text on his phone, there's a picture

888
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: of the words he's a snacks on the wall. So

889
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: now he's scared for his life because he came and

890
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: dropped the dime. Do you think that this? And I

891
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you could talk about that, it's not

892
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: great because I don't know, you've got a cold. You

893
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 1: steal the police officer, you can be you know, telling

894
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: them nobody. But how big is that in the law

895
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: enforcement like gangs and stuffing from the police department. Well,

896
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't for me because that turn gangs is a

897
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: specific thing. You know, there's a definition for gangs and

898
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't apply under these situations. And so let's say groups, Yeah,

899
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: so there are groups. So there are these cliques or

900
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: brotherhoods or these you know, these kind of fraternal um

901
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: type of mentalities, they definitely exist and just like they

902
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: do in the military, and you know, so we do

903
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: kind of align ourselves under this life when we listen,

904
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: I got your back. We're gonna be in this together.

905
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: We're facing all these you know, these these uh different situations.

906
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: But it's not they're not gangs because the gangs means

907
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: a particular thing to me. Right there's a definition for

908
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: what a gag is and it doesn't apply to that um.

909
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: But certainly this idea that you know, we need to

910
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: get these certain tattoos to identify ourselves as part of

911
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: this you know station, because that's one of the things

912
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: that l A County had a big you know, ordeals

913
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: like why are these guys having these tattoos put on themselves? See,

914
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: then it starts to get it's then it starts to

915
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: fulfill those qualifications of what a game and what a

916
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: gain is. And that's what I was gonna say, because

917
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, they said that these guys had matching school tattoos,

918
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: and people in the community see as as a criminal

919
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: gang within law enforcement, you know, because they understand what

920
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: people's ask because I'll tell you. And this is why

921
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I had to escalated. You know, sitting in between two

922
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, you get off the seventh m the one

923
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: or five they're going to seventeen, and seventeen is closed off.

924
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: So I wound up getting off on like Atlantic or

925
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: something like that. So I'm going in Atlantic, you know,

926
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: to go back to the crib. I get pulled over

927
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: and these dude snacks baby seats on the back of

928
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: the car. I'm sitting on the curb and they pretty

929
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: much told me if we're don't find nothing, you can go.

930
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: I have some you know speakers. You know you got

931
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: your big speakers back in the day. They punched a

932
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 1: hole of my speakers, and well, we're trying to find

933
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: like it's pretty much tork my stuff up right. I

934
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: asked to do it for his badge number, you know,

935
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: like I need your name and your badge. Remember, he

936
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: was just like, you don't need ship, you body, just

937
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: hope we don't find ship. And that was that. They

938
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: sent me on my way and I felt real like

939
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: not not sign no pussy, but I don't feel fold.

940
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: I said, man, these dudes just don't pretty much pulled

941
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: me up a punk. You don't talk my ship, but

942
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: they can't do it. And hi yo, that's normal sucking

943
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: wear and tearing here. Well I found that out there.

944
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: You have to remember this later on life, but not

945
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: to just be on the booze ship. I don't even

946
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: look like I'm you know, I'm brought it back. I'm

947
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: coming back from the nigga in fucking little Langwood and

948
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: a fucking Catalan truck. Is that they rite your profile?

949
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: Is you are profiled forecatching the car, chew, catching the car,

950
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: hats on leaning music. Let's see what they got. Nine

951
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: times out of ten they found something, because that's how

952
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: you roll it, find it. They's always have a gun

953
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: on them. No, wait a minute, they already know that.

954
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: But we don't switch it up. You know, at the

955
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: end of the day, we did because we had the

956
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: females following us with all the goodies. But we're rolling cool.

957
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: So when they pull us over, you got your license

958
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: and bad they pull you out. They put you in

959
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: the back seat of their car. They searched the car.

960
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Y'all going to row, we check off shoot and see

961
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: that's the legal in itself, because when they wanted all

962
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: of them you're not supposed to do that. We know,

963
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: but you ain't supposed to know that you're not supposed

964
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: to do They're not talking about said, dude, you just

965
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: can't just go on my ship shots and know what

966
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. They the due shut out and that

967
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: the whole situation is what I'm trying to say is

968
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: they do that not to disrespect, but they do that

969
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: because you are nigga dumb from Compton Long Beech with

970
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: you ain't supposed to all that. It ain't supposed to

971
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: be talking about. You can go in my glove compartment.

972
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: That's illegal search and siege. You ain't supposed to know that.

973
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: And you can say about of hammering there A good

974
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: lawyer's gonna be the case because I love I left

975
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: the middle of that. I look, it was all It's

976
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: just lucked, right, had the key to it was just

977
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: lucking dude Twarter like true, you know I'm locking a

978
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: death strong He twitter shot up like like what is he? Like?

979
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: What's looking for something? And it wasn't no expection. The

980
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: explanation and why I got pulled over, It was just

981
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: you get over sitting the curve. Then you know it's

982
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: like this and another time I had to do that. Um,

983
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: he was out writing tickets. This is when I stayed

984
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: in orph Long Beach. Right, he was up there right tickets, right.

985
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 1: And so he told my car for being this much

986
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: like a little inch over in the red right eve

987
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: until it he gave me a ticket. Right, I'll see

988
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: it some smart ship. Because he was sitting up, you know,

989
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: sitting a smart street. I rolled by and I pulled

990
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: out like up. I said, hey, I'm gonna get some donuts.

991
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: You want something. I was stupid. I should have did

992
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: that ship. The next day, this motherfucker knocked on my door.

993
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: I pulled up to the house to go get my wife, right,

994
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: because we just want to get our son. You know,

995
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: my mother loves us. And he said, by the way,

996
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: that you thought you had a women for your arrest,

997
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: And that motherfucker said something like ten And I said

998
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: for what? And I said, he said, you have a

999
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: warrant from arrest from nine nine two. I said, he

1000
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: was a damn I wasn't even driving from nine. It

1001
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: was a ticket to turn to a warrant, right, And

1002
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: the things said, Norman Steam. This dude took me down

1003
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: a jail man. That's when I realized right there, I said,

1004
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: she just for the inconvenienced that you caused him when

1005
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: you could have been cool. Actually thought that that was

1006
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 1: you had a warrant Norman Stein. I wasn't even getting

1007
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: nothing to them. It don't matter out here. The mentality

1008
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: when I when I was growing up in the hood,

1009
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: that was normal ship. I could be riding by my

1010
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: motherfuck himself and he was ready to bust a left

1011
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: or right, and as soon as the motherfucker make eye

1012
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: contact with me and some of that, and you could

1013
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: be clean. No dope, no whatever, it don't matter. Get

1014
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: your ass out, sit on the curve and let me

1015
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: tear up everything. And then when I don't find nothing,

1016
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: you thank me my fun. But you gotta look at it.

1017
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: You like this, say, being in the hood, they know

1018
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: who you are. You already profiled exactly. Anybody that signed

1019
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: that we know who you is. So when they see you,

1020
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: they already know what type of person you is. They

1021
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: we just might find someone this due today nine times.

1022
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: I've to tend that's what they're going on. Exactly half

1023
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: of the half of the ship that we do getting

1024
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: fished off. We know we can't win. I learned this

1025
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Just say, okay, you just keep

1026
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: your hands on the car, don't put your hands in

1027
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: your pocket. That's a sign, that's the gesture that what

1028
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: the fun you're doing talking ship to him? Ain't finna

1029
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: get you nowhere? Nine times out of chin is a

1030
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: small infraction, change into get your ashwood kicked on the

1031
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: ground the whole night. When all I had to do

1032
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: is just go back. When I tell you that them

1033
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: dudes that came back to the crib right because he's

1034
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: taking me outside and I'm telling them, dude, I wasn't

1035
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: here in college because I came here in eight with

1036
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: the long bat City College, got a scholarship somewhere, and

1037
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm over there during that time, you know, the second

1038
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: two years. So I'm like, I wasn't even here, you

1039
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So hey, gonna tell me I

1040
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: got a warmth my risk. But when I tell you

1041
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: whatever he was from that microphone, this is about forty

1042
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: motherfucker's poplished They had me some let me have a problem,

1043
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: reach play do the cool up. I saw this point

1044
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: through this. He was just waiting with timass up like

1045
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: a pin young. So you're seeing this whole scenario through

1046
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: with your eyes. That guy doesn't know that you weren't here.

1047
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: In his mind, he's just processing information, trying to make

1048
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, try trying to make sense of it all,

1049
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: and he might think this warrant is yours, so he

1050
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: has to go through a certain procedure. He doesn't know

1051
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: you weren't here. You know you weren't here. And that

1052
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: makes sense to you when they when they call it

1053
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: a certain warrant or whatever, the hype, the weight and

1054
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: everything shows up. Yeah, it should the warrant that you know,

1055
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: if it's a ten year old warrant, how much can

1056
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: change in ten years just hype. Well no, I'm just

1057
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: saying that that those things need to be taken in consideration.

1058
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: If I pulled you over and it says five ten,

1059
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, clearly there's a problem here, right,

1060
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm already gonna be like this probably isn't you.

1061
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: But if there are consistencies that I have to go

1062
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: through the process. If because I can't to whom he's

1063
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: telling me the truth? Ticket and up man, this misty.

1064
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: But it was inconvenient with me because I had to

1065
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: build up I never got that money back. But that's

1066
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: what it was. It was inconvenience, just as smart as

1067
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: the other day by rolling by showing your bank I

1068
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm gonna say that we have enough stuff

1069
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: that we can do, or we're not gonna spend a

1070
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: whole bunch of time just trying to inconvenience you because

1071
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: we can go out and do our job, find other

1072
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: things to do. To take you to the station and

1073
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: find out that it's not really you, that's a pain

1074
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: in the ass. Yeah, but I see that's coming from

1075
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: a cop like you, who's on the up and up,

1076
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: a motherfucker like the dude that y'all used to punk,

1077
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker that you're showing your bank roll too.

1078
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find a reason to funk with you, straight up.

1079
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: It got nothing to do with it. Yeah, of course,

1080
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: we got plenty of fucking ships we could be doing.

1081
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: Then the fucking with you. But you want to be

1082
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: an asshole, and I want ready in this this this

1083
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: element of bangers and drug dealers and motherfucker's I don't

1084
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: really get down with. So the colde is motherfucker shut

1085
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: up and don't say ship because I'm just an asshole.

1086
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: I see your cars in the red by ten inches.

1087
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: I could be like him and be like, hey, move

1088
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: your car, or I could be like his cop and

1089
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: go you got ticket, And then when you want to

1090
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: come by and go yeah, I'm going to go get

1091
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: some done nuts. Okay, motherfucker. I'm gonna get on my

1092
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: computer and find the motherfucker that fits your description and

1093
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: close to you, and I'm coming back and take your

1094
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: asking to do. I know it ain't You're fuck if

1095
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: I ain't, I know it ain't you. But the inconvenience

1096
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: that pulled you out of that motherfucker because you're doing

1097
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: all of this now, convenience asking goes spend that ship

1098
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: on the bail. When I tell you that this dude

1099
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: drove by my house all the time, Me and mother me,

1100
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like a ticket picture of the world. He's

1101
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: right like this, just me, mother like this. Anything, let's

1102
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: do something's there. I can do some far rob Man

1103
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: and I would tickets askew to you and sit you

1104
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: right back down. Keep one of the crests and I'm

1105
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: not looking at them. So y'all got it, y'all ask

1106
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: what's the color? I used to go in the house

1107
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: and open the windows, rolling windows out to break your

1108
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: bit chests in here. I used to make up the man, mother,

1109
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: come on in our dare you well, come on outside, James,

1110
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: and let's let's talk. Do you think I'm stupid? I

1111
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: used to them all the time. They came to my

1112
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: house and uh, talking about I just did a robbery,

1113
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: and uh we out there part of this When I

1114
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: had parties every every weekend. They told me I had

1115
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: to shut it down. I don't have a license for it, man,

1116
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: and put the locker on the gate. Everybody inside with

1117
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: y'all talking. They came back, said it was Robbie. I

1118
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: pit the description. They went in the house, they found

1119
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: two pistols and they wouldn't mine, but they found the

1120
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: two pistols, and uh, I go to jail and Reggie said,

1121
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: this ain't it? What what what are you in there for?

1122
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: And that was one good thing about Reggie right Sen,

1123
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I totally don't fit

1124
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: the description of these more focuses, but I had police

1125
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: officers just just didn't like me. And Regie right said,

1126
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: that's a good example for a guy who who worked

1127
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: where he lived community police. And that was a good thing.

1128
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: That's why I think that should be you know, sort

1129
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: of uh inherited into motherfucker's joining the force or whatever.

1130
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: I need to know why you want to patrol in

1131
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: Compton being who you are? But is that contradicted because

1132
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: the brother police officers, black police officers, they was harder

1133
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: than the white boys because a lot of them was pumped. Asked,

1134
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker's and now they want to come back to a

1135
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: place where they can pump. The next he had a

1136
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of friends. Motherfucker grow up and get his ass

1137
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: kid getting puffed and can't get it to motherfucker set

1138
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: your ass down. You can't get the pool right there

1139
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: that I would grow up and I'm ana join the force.

1140
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: And when they asked me where I want to patrol

1141
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: like Louis Park is why I want to God never,

1142
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: the first thing I do with I put that badge

1143
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: over want. I just mean, I'm wanting down this motherfucker's

1144
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm going down your street, right down. They in my car,

1145
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: and I don't have been cooking up in the six phone.

1146
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: Motherfucking dates they got come it down that mother coke

1147
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: r And I'm just rolling looking at your ass in

1148
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: the front yard like every would have had to do

1149
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: what he had to do if that would have ever happened,

1150
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: because I ain't gonna let him pump me, you know

1151
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But he probably gonna you know, he

1152
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't got it. He when he got it that he

1153
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't get it in best use window. He is like,

1154
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: excuse when it was totally against me. And and I

1155
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't give him that satisfaction. I couldn't. I wouldn't give

1156
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: a funk if I was scared as fun because I

1157
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: know they've feenl with my ask. I couldn't give him that. Yeah,

1158
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: and that's crazy. You can give him that satisfaction, you know. Great.

1159
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the murders real quick

1160
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: because it's a couple of but I'm really trying to

1161
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: find out man, it's why it's California murder rate so

1162
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: high compared to these other places. But what I wanted

1163
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: to ask you, I wanted to go back to one

1164
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: of real famous one that men have happened not too

1165
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: long ago, Rest of peace, Nipsey Hustle. What did you

1166
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: think about that whole thing? But again, so this goes

1167
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: back to the idea that you know, if you have

1168
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: a high profile name, you're gonna get more resources dumped

1169
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: into the investigative effort. And so because he was somebody

1170
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: that was a notable figure, and um, there was a

1171
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: lot of pressure to solve that. A lot of you know,

1172
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: it went to robbery homicide. You Otherwise, if it's just

1173
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: a random gangster, would have stayed division or with the

1174
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: homicide investigators who are already taxed because they've got a

1175
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: bunch of other homicides to investigate. Right, So then it

1176
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: goes to a specialized you know like Robert Homicide division

1177
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: where they can just dump tons of resources and mappower

1178
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: into it. And so that's why you know, he got

1179
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: salved relatively quickly. Um, and is my whole partner, Darren

1180
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: Depre you know, worked on that case, and if he

1181
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: worked on Pop Smoke and uh, you know you And

1182
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: when you say the resources that are provided, is that financial,

1183
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: it's not? Just so basically, yeah, the money basically falls

1184
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: where the high profile case goes, right As opposed to

1185
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: Mipsy being just a regular homie from sixties got popped,

1186
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: nobody's offering fifty thou dollar rewards for information. There's no

1187
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: money for getting up on emergency wire taps, which are

1188
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: really expensive pain informants. There's a whole bunch of different

1189
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: avenues of investigation that call money that you're not going

1190
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: to spend on. Just some hold on, I'm let me

1191
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: go back to the paying informance, so that those two

1192
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: dudes who make a living like a much how much informance?

1193
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: How much the performance get Well, if you're a federal

1194
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: informat if you're working for one of the you know,

1195
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: the d A or the FBI, you're making pretty good

1196
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: money because they have you know, they have a deeper

1197
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: pockets and lap d informat If you're buying dope, you're

1198
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: just you're barely making enough to get through the week,

1199
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: you know. So it just really depends on what type

1200
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: of work you're doing and for who. So they has

1201
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: got a budget, is that what they do with all

1202
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: the dope that they sees when that money comes up?

1203
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: Miss when they took that money. So there's so if

1204
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: you're an informant working for the d e A and

1205
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: you you know, assistant an investigation that leads to a

1206
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars and assid forfacer asked that forfeit your seizures,

1207
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: you know you're you are potentially entitled to of that

1208
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: what they see. Really, so if you sees stuff, you

1209
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: are the informative thing is that busses, the Tony Montanas

1210
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: and the mansions and the rolls races and all that money.

1211
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: So you can you can actually live and get you

1212
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: buy your own and if you get you go stitch

1213
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: it on the big top. Butfuckers getting your tempers say

1214
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: confession what you that's crazy. But the money that that

1215
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: that the government sees, they take that money and put

1216
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: it right back into that's the resources that they have

1217
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: goes back in the drug enforcement operations. So it just

1218
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: funds out because it's super expensive. You're getting up on

1219
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: a wire tap, you know, Um you're all these monitors

1220
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: and all of these people that are typing things. It's

1221
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: really expensive. So why does they say they broke and

1222
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: they don't They don't have researchers to go after this

1223
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: person and that person. When every case they have in season,

1224
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: cars and houses and all that which are sold, that

1225
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: money goes on the dollar. By the way, you know

1226
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff isn't sold for what it's

1227
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: actually worth. The government doesn't want to be taxed, can help,

1228
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to. It makes them look

1229
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: get rid of this. Yeah, and so it's it's sold

1230
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: for much less than it's actually worth. And then but

1231
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: if they're if they're just actual you know, cash seizures.

1232
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you stumble one a million dollars, you know,

1233
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: most of that just goes right back into the process

1234
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: of investigating, goes right back to feed the effort. You know,

1235
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 1: I know a lot of that money come and missing

1236
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: before they even hit the station too, because again you've

1237
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: got the human element, you know what I mean. You know,

1238
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: let's go back to the pop smoke thing. Um. With technology, man,

1239
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: are you think the police department is seeing more people

1240
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,480
Speaker 1: like with the pop smoke incident? He was on Instagram?

1241
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: You know, the location is one that's what people don't

1242
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: know when you put a picture up sometimes if you're

1243
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: don't have your settings on the phone or right away,

1244
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 1: if somebody got the right software, they can tell where

1245
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: you took the picture of. It gets even more interesting

1246
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: than that. Like it's called deal fencing. And what happens

1247
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 1: is if there's a crime scene and the police department

1248
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: has the capability of putting a fence around a certain

1249
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: vicinity and they can capture everything that's getting tweeted, everything

1250
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: that's getting Facebook, everything that's being communicated is in seeking

1251
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: then digital if if if some witness from their windows

1252
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: season murder bill downs just man, I just saw that guy,

1253
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: and then they can go and talk to her. You

1254
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: tweeted this out, You just tweeted this out. Did you

1255
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: actually see this or not? You know? And sometimes it's

1256
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: like now I didn't. So do they do that just

1257
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: randomly or it happens when a crime seem happens. It

1258
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: happens when it's a crime scene of significant significant So

1259
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,799
Speaker 1: they can put up a digital fence and basically go back.

1260
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: It's just like reading a cell tower going in, being going.

1261
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: So they can put up this fence in this perimeter

1262
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: and just basically just start pulling up everything from the

1263
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: last five hours anyway. And I hope the kids out

1264
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: here here all this, you know, because the thing he

1265
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: was like, I tell people today, man, it's almost impossible

1266
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: to get away with some shot. It's almost impossible because

1267
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: the thing he was, if you go smoke somebody, you

1268
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: haven't have your cell phone in your pocket and they

1269
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: asked you where were you having this? And you talked

1270
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: about man, I was in Corona doing this and they said, well,

1271
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: we have your cell phone, you know, being tracked on

1272
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: on each side of the company, you know what I'm saying,

1273
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: and that night, so it's almost impossible, man, because the

1274
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: way they got Pop smoked. Man. You know, he was

1275
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: in Beverley Hills and the door got kicked in. And

1276
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: now see I looked at that as something they was

1277
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: coming to get him directly, because they didn't take nothing, nothing,

1278
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't still nothing, So it wasn't like

1279
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: it was just a regular home invasion robbery. They didn't

1280
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: take ship, They left all the jury when they just

1281
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: want to kill him. Let me tell you something, a

1282
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: lot of these cats were being killed. It's inside ship.

1283
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: If you welcome with a stack of money. If you're

1284
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: hanging out with a stack of money and you ain't

1285
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: spreading that stack of money amongst us, somebody out of

1286
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: that five or somebody out of that group period is

1287
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: gonna set you up. That's a money racks. Man. We

1288
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: can eat up that before we could do who who

1289
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: what that? That's all that happened to him, And and

1290
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: the majority of them want buckers. See we do the

1291
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: ship to each other once again. So that's all that

1292
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: happens you out here, just like the little cat that

1293
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: was in and he had these eighty racks on him

1294
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 1: and he checking pictures and all of this, and they

1295
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: gathered bet five thousand, vet ten thousand. I'm talking about

1296
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: they He had eighties sitting there, sitting there, and he

1297
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: still got a backpack full of money. You don't know

1298
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 1: me from jack now. If I was like tways twenty

1299
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: years ago, it over gotta being on the phone. Get

1300
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: up here right hey, my nigga, I'm about I'm about

1301
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: to go, but just right here and getting here with

1302
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: a hunted in the back, we pick the flow show

1303
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 1: and show what we've got going on. You got cats.

1304
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: You gotta remember you got people out here that of

1305
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: starting brothers out here that we'll get you for that paper.

1306
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: So if you if you're profiling like that, and then

1307
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: you you on you on Instagram, you're on Facebook, you're

1308
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: going live. They know you right there, they know what

1309
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: you think. It goes back to the to the just

1310
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: what I was saying, like the other day, Um, when

1311
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:47,600
Speaker 1: I grew up, we had a certain code of but

1312
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 1: not flossiness. He feel me today. It's the main stay

1313
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: for the young cats. All of them do it just

1314
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: money to the ear, the two million dollars of ice on,

1315
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, because to them that represents respect from other motherfucker's.

1316
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. In our days, the respect

1317
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 1: came from who you was and which you could do

1318
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: with these or he was in the period and give

1319
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: a funk. You didn't have to be. I didn't have

1320
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: to be the big time fucking drug dealer nigga. Don nigga,

1321
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: no need period, you give me. That's the respect we had.

1322
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 1: That Kemper's in the T shirt. That's it. We didn't

1323
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: have to remember. Let me go to the this motherfucker

1324
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: to swap me and buy me up a gang of

1325
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: Turkish ropes and do all. We had a few drug

1326
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: dealers and ballers who did that ship before the majority

1327
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: niggas had names as a whole. Who they are. We

1328
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: now to respect code and who you demand. If you

1329
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: show up with a billion chains on and then you're

1330
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: taking pictures with the phone to your ear and you

1331
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: get me like like my nigga, James said, it's nigga's

1332
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: still starving in Compton. It's a nigga next to you starving.

1333
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: You might have bought it that the outfit gutting some

1334
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: shoes that look like you and that's their homie. But

1335
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: he ain't got the fucking tents in his pocket. And

1336
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 1: you're sitting over here with fucking fucking half a million

1337
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: in your laughing like this. That causes jealousy. Come on, man,

1338
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: but this story has ended them, story James, this story

1339
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: has ended No. Um, he was up in the game,

1340
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: little fat boy. Um James talked to him and told

1341
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,799
Speaker 1: him to be careful. I'll talked to him. He showed

1342
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: me a little nine million media in his back. Well,

1343
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: I got some o g somebody coming here and I said, man,

1344
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 1: that's not gonna do shoot. I said, I know some

1345
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that come here with a twin too, to lay

1346
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: everybody down in this motherfucker before somebody they just blended

1347
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: in because it's people. They don't know if they with us,

1348
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: We don't know if people to other people. So that

1349
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: somebody being there just blending and I know the body

1350
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 1: and I take this, my motherfucker get hit once motherfucker

1351
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 1: here that pup. Everybody gonna get the scattering and everybody

1352
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: will get the phone on the flooring ship because they've

1353
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: nobody in there outside you know us go do they

1354
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna fall on the floor? And I said, you could

1355
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: lose your life. I said, I called somebody right now

1356
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: and tell him the plump here hit me in the

1357
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: here to make it look good. You know what we got?

1358
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: He left there. Oh yeah, a week after that man

1359
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: left there, he was in DC gambling. There was online

1360
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: all on camera. He was in DC gambling, got killed.

1361
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: And when I tell you I got killed, it was

1362
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: on there. Then he had guns like they were showing off.

1363
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: They look good and stuff. Dude try to pull the

1364
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: a K off the back of the car and went

1365
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: to shooting, and he didn't know what the hell he

1366
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: was doing. And you get saw him backing up and

1367
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: there was some dudes whoever the mother dude, Well, they

1368
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: knew what they were doing because due was just backing up.

1369
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: I saw the one dude dropped the a K and

1370
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: getting shot up in the back, you know what I mean,

1371
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: because he didn't know who they used it. They had

1372
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: all these tools, but didn't know what they used. But

1373
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: he died out there in DC behind the same thing

1374
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: shooting dice because somebody said, it's the motherfucker up here.

1375
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: With a bag of money. Come and get this motherfucker ship.

1376
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: I'll be the nigger right there with you gambling and

1377
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: go like ship. They got back the motherfucker money, and

1378
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: that can paint happening to lay down right now? This

1379
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 1: ship and and and and and for real, this this

1380
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 1: is nothing new. And this is how we've been doing

1381
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: each other from the beginning, when the dog came, when

1382
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: the dome came, and that certain individual came up. And

1383
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: you're still doing the twenties and the buying them fifty packs. Man,

1384
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm wasting my time. Now you've got the homies kicking it.

1385
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 1: Homie didn't got killed. They have stole took everything inside John,

1386
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: So we do the ship to ourselves and then now

1387
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: here we have black lives matter. Why the hell is

1388
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: we getting mad? And I'm gonna keep saying this on

1389
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 1: every show. Why are we getting mad when the police

1390
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: we were supposed to but why we ain't trying to

1391
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: fix the ship ourselves instead of saying, okay, the police

1392
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: were killing each other more than they're doing it. But

1393
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: it don't make it right that they're doing it. But

1394
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 1: let's be mad at ourselves first. We can't fix nothing.

1395
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: Blaming everybody else and and and we've gonna get that going.

1396
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 1: And this is where we're at because we've been doing

1397
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: this ship from the beginning of time, exactly doing each

1398
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: other from the beginning of the time. Yeah, and it's

1399
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: still some jealousy. Um, I can't stand and see why

1400
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: the fund did he make it as a rapper? Fuck him?

1401
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: Who the fund do he think he is? And you

1402
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: could be coming back just on some regular degulous stuff,

1403
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: just coming back to see your people. You know, you

1404
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: missed the neighborhood. You're coming back to hang out with

1405
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: some friends. Right, they're same people looking at you, like,

1406
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: who the fun he was? He came to show up,

1407
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: look at his chain, and you might not be be

1408
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: thinking about that, you know what I mean. But that's

1409
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: why I said, that's the mentality of the motherfucker who

1410
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,440
Speaker 1: hasn't succeeded or who's still in the neighborhood with that mentality.

1411
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: And I said, I got ship motherfucker's today from that.

1412
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: Some of the some of us, we'll never get out

1413
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. No a fact, some of us truly believed

1414
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: that I'm stuck. I don't want no different don't see

1415
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: no difference. Don't want to go nowhere. And that's the

1416
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: crazy part about it. Man, I was happy to get

1417
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: up out of here. You know what I'm saying, You

1418
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: get tired of it. But some cats, like the older cats,

1419
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: like older than me. If you're still in the neighborhood,

1420
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: you can't knock him for still been in the neighborhood.

1421
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: Because I didn't have a they don't. They didn't have

1422
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: a No, I'm still to make a phone call to him. Man,

1423
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: I want to do a show. I want to do this.

1424
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: They didn't have a grad Katie to say, Man, you

1425
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: have an interesting story. Man, you want to go to Australia?

1426
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: What austrated? Damn. I don't think I'm gonna be able

1427
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: to get a passport, you know what I'm saying. So

1428
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: we don't everybody don't get those outs, you know what

1429
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So everything is gonna still be what it is.

1430
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: But we gotta get inside the neighborhood and then get

1431
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: at the little youngsters and say, come on, man, this

1432
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: ain't what y'all doing. That's why we're doing the podcast.

1433
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 1: So let to inform those that I think it's cool

1434
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: to be a gamest in all of that that's not

1435
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: what's happening here. You got n C eight. He didn't

1436
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: did his thing in bad? Should he have somebody chargeting

1437
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: him because oh man, I know he got a lot

1438
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: of money. No, come on, man, don't cheer me down

1439
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: because you you don't want it, you know what exactly.

1440
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: And it's almost like subconsciously somebody is looking at you

1441
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 1: and blaming you for their misfortune. Kind yeah, that happened,

1442
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, And it's like in their head they've justified

1443
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: that man who the funks ain't think he was up

1444
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: there talking. Man, I'd be a more ship than he did,

1445
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, you know, people

1446
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:43,799
Speaker 1: are crazy. Our jealousy and envy within our own people

1447
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: is being at it all time. Huh. And I never

1448
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: cared that. Like James said, Um, a lot of people

1449
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: want to blame the police, and of course it's wrong

1450
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: to be in uh, George Floyd's situation or for Yanna

1451
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: Bailer or anybody that we feel that may have lost

1452
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: their lives by you know, police brutality or whatever. But

1453
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: then it again, like he said, we've been gang banging

1454
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: for years, smoking each other bloods and cripts and the essay,

1455
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: homies have been in in thean the brown and the

1456
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: minorities in the Asian game, and we've been killing each

1457
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: other before. Black lives matter. So I understand people want

1458
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: to rally behind something, you understand. You know that's how

1459
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: we I feel. We are as a people too, you know,

1460
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: our Niggers are as a people. You know, you do something,

1461
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: come out. We all flocked to that ship. You give

1462
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: me the latest trend. We flocked. You know, we all

1463
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,879
Speaker 1: gotta do this ship all every and look for somebody

1464
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: to blame. But like you said, motherfuckering go tomorrow and

1465
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: smoke up the next nigger from the enemy hood across

1466
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: the street. And we don't have no marches. You know,

1467
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: we might got a little a couple of moms out

1468
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 1: there who grieve and a couple of but for the

1469
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: most part, it's ordinary. Um. And this is my honest opinion,

1470
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: because in every neighborhood you still have some ogs who

1471
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: give a damn the dude that don't been the pin

1472
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, and this don't make no sense.

1473
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: This don't make no sense. What's going on? If you

1474
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: had them, dude, start holding on court to the idiot

1475
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: that getting the car out in the car and just

1476
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: start randomly shooting at people, kill four or five kids.

1477
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: I bet you if they had to deal with those people.

1478
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: Man on cercait a certain kind of level. You do

1479
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: some dumb ship over here, we go discipline your grass,

1480
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I bet you all that

1481
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: ship because this is different kind of keep it in

1482
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, keeping the house motherfucker's king, But that

1483
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: the younctions out here today and respecting the o G s,

1484
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: they don't they don't done it. If they don't have

1485
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: it how we had it when we grew up, they're

1486
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: kill o G. Then you got some ogs don't want

1487
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: to deal with these young because they might have to

1488
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 1: kill one of these new cats, not even back in jail,

1489
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of like, uh,

1490
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: flip side to it, because if I get involved with

1491
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: these new cats and they ain't listening to me, they

1492
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: already know him, gonna knock him upside the head. Now

1493
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: I knocked him ups out of the head, And now

1494
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: I gotta worry about the slow cat coming back and

1495
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: popping out the bushes and shooting, you know, because damn

1496
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: so coming back exactly so it's it's just a you

1497
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: need more than a big homie in the hood. You

1498
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: need cats like like you have the East Coast and

1499
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: all of these other where's a lot of them seven

1500
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 1: six whatever. You need all them cats to get together

1501
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: and then get at each other. Everybody gotta come a

1502
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: one in the neighborhood and then say what went man.

1503
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: You have to be active to stop it. You have

1504
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: to be the big homie in the hood that's with

1505
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: it to stop it, not an o g that's kicking

1506
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 1: it with his wife. And now, I mean, y'all just

1507
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: seeing how we used to do and you can't have

1508
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: it like that. You gotta have somebody that was active,

1509
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: like really in there to be a part of that

1510
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: instead of the way Nipsey did it. And if she

1511
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: was involved in everything and everybody in it. And you

1512
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: know half of those half of those cats didn't like

1513
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: the way he was doing certain ships. So you was

1514
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna run into some resistance. But you have to

1515
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: do it like in the hood. You gotta be in

1516
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: the hood. You gotta really be with it for those

1517
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: little cats to understand and respect you, you know what

1518
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and respect the game. So me personally. Me,

1519
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: I say, knock him off, get him out of the way,

1520
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: because they don't want to listen. But you'll be killing

1521
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: them everybody. Yeah, then you kind of like a kind

1522
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 1: of um hypocritical thing is seeing a black black crime,

1523
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: but the little homies is disappearing, you know, So like

1524
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 1: I see your point. Um, what I think is this, man,

1525
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: Well people don't look at man. We just can't still

1526
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: and blame us man California, like we do that ship

1527
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: up in bills. We have to blame us. But we're

1528
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: put in certain conditions man, where we go almost condition

1529
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not one of those people to make excuses,

1530
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: but we are almost conditioned to hate each other. Yeah,

1531
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: it's like almost like it's just been that way for

1532
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: as long as I remember me. I mean, but you

1533
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: really don't. As a kid, I mean, I went to

1534
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: school with a lot of Niggers who end their enemies

1535
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 1: from different neighborhoods. I mean, it's just like a motherfucker

1536
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: being talk racism. Uh. A lot of children, a lot

1537
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 1: of white kids or whatever they're gonna grow up or

1538
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: born with. I don't like that motherfucker's talk. But that's

1539
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: what conditioning is. Minding this in this stream of somebody

1540
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: having some in my conditioning, James or whatever. You know,

1541
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: my condition as a young gang banger was I'm from

1542
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: this hood. We got beef with them. My conditioning is

1543
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: follow the code and you beef. It wasn't the I

1544
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: was born with it because five years ago when we

1545
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: went to elementary me and it's been a play in

1546
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: kickball with each other. And then when it's signed to

1547
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: go to junior high, he go up the street to

1548
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: the school and I go around the corner. They banging

1549
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: this over here, and they're banging that over there with

1550
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: the neighborhood structure. So now my friends become them. I

1551
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,839
Speaker 1: wasn't born to hate him, but now that I'm running

1552
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 1: with them, since the hat Fields in the Cooways, they've

1553
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: been hating that neighborhood. I'm over here now. So that's

1554
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: my conditioning, my conditions. I want to be a part

1555
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: of Track New Park, so fucking we don't like them.

1556
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 1: So if you want to be long, your conditioning, motherfuck

1557
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: is you hate everything about them, period, whether that and

1558
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of the ship is. I gotta cousin

1559
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: over there, a relative. I gotta be mad at my

1560
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: cousin and you're on the hood, well, well funk with them,

1561
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: not your conditioning of what I was brought up. So

1562
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: you have to be able to change that structure. And

1563
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: like you said, James said, we gotta be You gotta

1564
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: be o g s in the hood who changes that

1565
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: structure and that mentality of conditioning the young homies too.

1566
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: We beef with the eight nines, or we beef with

1567
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 1: the mob, or we beef with them. So it's that

1568
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: mentality that has to be changed our field. It's just

1569
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: like saying, getting rid of the police. What what do

1570
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,839
Speaker 1: you think, harbins? If you give rid of the police.

1571
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: If you get rid of the police, that tells me

1572
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: I can go kill anymore. But they want to. You

1573
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: got to have them? How do you? How do you

1574
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 1: get around that? So we gotta be one honey with

1575
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: ourselves and what the funk we're doing. We gotta take

1576
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: accountability for the ship that we're doing. That's what I say.

1577
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: It's important for me to try to say one of

1578
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: these little youngsters, we we we we. I mean, if

1579
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,839
Speaker 1: we don't step up, then everything stays the same exactly.

1580
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: We don't show or say everything stays the same. So

1581
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: instead of talking about it. Man, we gotta figure out

1582
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: a way to fix it. I think it will go

1583
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: better forward for the especially the police that's really there

1584
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: to fix it, approached to the ones that come to work,

1585
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: just so you can see how many motherfucker's ask even more.

1586
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's the average cop. I think the

1587
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: average cop goes to work with good intentions and they

1588
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: just want to get home with their family. Because another

1589
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: another thing that we have to stop doing because I

1590
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: hate when I see this. I trained my sons because

1591
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: the world is just the way it is when they

1592
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: first started driving. If officer puts you over, you keep

1593
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: your hand on the wheel, the respectful. Don't be moughling

1594
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: off to me. Keep your hand there giving the driver's license.

1595
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 1: If something happened, I'd rather bear you off and bury

1596
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: it right man, you know, so just do what you're

1597
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: supposed to do. Keep your hands with steering wheel. And um.

1598
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: I think that's the average cop though, that that has

1599
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: good intentions. And I hate when I see us officer

1600
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: sometimes be being cool as hell. He pulled somebody over,

1601
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: They got the wunder up this side. What are you

1602
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: pulling me over for? What? Then, do you want that's

1603
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: that's the new narrative of the of the Cloud. Ye

1604
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: do the club says, Yeah. So they got the camera

1605
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: and you can see this officer is being cool as hell, right,

1606
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: and you got the motherfucker's and you give them blues.

1607
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: It's just like the one brother that got shot in

1608
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: his back. Somebody was you know, I kind of walked

1609
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: in on the conversation of one of my partner's house, right,

1610
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: he was like this, so funked up they shot home

1611
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: and look how they shot him, And I said, well, man,

1612
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 1: it looked like he running in the car reaching for

1613
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: some ship. What the funk else were they supposed to do?

1614
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, Don't get me wrong, I hated that brother

1615
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: lost his life. I feel bad for a lot of

1616
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: things they could have did because they changed him first.

1617
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: If they chased him, that should have been there right there.

1618
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: You get on him, you you handcuff him, and you

1619
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: you you you got the situation under control. Yeah, that's it.

1620
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: But that's what that lobster didn't make. This dude running

1621
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: on a cargo reef, like, what are you reaching for?

1622
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 1: He listening? No, no, But to your point, James, they

1623
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: chased him and didn't work. When they chased him, took him. Well,

1624
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: you would hope that if the taser doesn't work to

1625
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: where he's incapacitated, you're not going to run up and

1626
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: try to tackle the guy with a knife in his hand.

1627
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 1: He didn't have an absolutely, did I guaranting you did

1628
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: it absolutely? And to the ship than with everybody. Man. Absolutely,

1629
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: he's armed with a knife and he said, I've got

1630
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: a knife, and there's a knife in his hand. And

1631
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna run up and try to

1632
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: tackle somebody like that, right, So the taser, because they

1633
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: know this, we're keeping our distance. Well that's not working.

1634
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Now he's running away. We're gonna chase him. Now he's

1635
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: running and reaching in the car of that debt belonged him,

1636
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: and there's kids in there, so it's it gets really complicated.

1637
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: Car no open, he reached in the car. You know

1638
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: what I heard was there was another domestic situation going on.

1639
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 1: He came up to diffuse the domestic situation. When the

1640
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: police pulled up automatically, it's an excalation or whatever. Whatever.

1641
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: They see him there. Everybody's whatever, so hey, what's going on? Whatever? Whatever?

1642
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Now I never heard a story about a knife or whatever,

1643
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 1: the domesticalist that he the old lady, that he had

1644
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 1: a secondary stream or against him. Okay, so this is all.

1645
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: This was not a random thing where he was getting

1646
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: involved in somebody else's where they said it was a

1647
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:38,719
Speaker 1: domestic So everybody is feeling uneasy because it's Black Lives Matter,

1648
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: George Floyd and Brianna Taylor. So so naturally, when you

1649
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: see incidents that involves a black person in the white

1650
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 1: cop it's automatically gonna be escalated to uh, the black

1651
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: on white fund, the police type or whatever situation that's

1652
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: been going on. So nobody really wants to look and

1653
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: see what's happening and like and people questions or why

1654
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: they didn't do this, or why they do that, or

1655
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 1: why you even let them get to the fucking car

1656
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: in the first place. And then it's horrifying because now

1657
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: the realization is you're shotting fucking six times. But even

1658
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 1: with a knife, are you trained to to to take

1659
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: some weapons from a person? Yeah, So typically, like there's

1660
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: this is part of the police training. You learn how

1661
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: quickly somebody can cover ground and you know, and if

1662
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: you're eight ten feet away from me by the time

1663
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: I process information and make a decision to shoot. You

1664
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: can get to me that fast. You know, you can

1665
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: get to me before I figured out he's running at me.

1666
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: He's and all of a sudden, I'm trying to defend

1667
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 1: myself and you've already got your knife in my throat.

1668
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that fast, James, It's really this ship

1669
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 1: happened so fast, and we have to do this thing,

1670
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: and you know, we have to take in a consideration

1671
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 1: response time, and it is there's there's seconds involved. And

1672
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: and when you start to consider that and you're trained

1673
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 1: that this guy can cover ground really quick. And so

1674
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: if if you feel like he's gonna advance on you

1675
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 1: and he's right there and you're in fear for your life,

1676
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: you have to do what you gotta do to protect yourself.

1677
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: I know that we can sit here and look at

1678
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 1: it like, well, it's just a knife and he's ten

1679
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 1: ft away, twelve feet away, man, you can cover that

1680
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: ground really quick. And it's been proven. They do all

1681
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 1: kinds of training on this, and so you know you've

1682
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:38,400
Speaker 1: got to when you're processing information and the decision will ship.

1683
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 1: He's running at me, has a knife and pull your trigger.

1684
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 1: That's all the time. It takes for him to get

1685
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: to you. Okay, I want to ask to elaborate on

1686
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,919
Speaker 1: the situation about what you can control as an officer

1687
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: in your situation, um in your training or you as

1688
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: an officer, what is your first thought when you're in

1689
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: that situation? Is it to kill a motherfucker? You know,

1690
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: not so graphic, or should I take one pop in

1691
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: the leg or something to wound the motherfucker because it

1692
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: seems to us or some people, shooting blah blah blah

1693
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: is a little bit extensive right into it. It's a

1694
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: little extensive than to just Okay, the motherfucker's reaching and

1695
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,759
Speaker 1: getting his car bot and then let me see what's happening,

1696
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: let me pop him in the ass or shoot him

1697
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: in the leg, as opposed to I'm just gonna bust

1698
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: six shots at his back, and being being what's the

1699
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 1: training process that you as being a cop in that

1700
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: situation deal with knowing the black lives matter? And it's

1701
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 1: you get me when you up there in the moment,

1702
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,759
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about that, But I think that's offense.

1703
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 1: That's really a great question because like you know, and

1704
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 1: I've always personally had had how to how to beef

1705
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: with the way that we do this, like we do

1706
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: two shots to the chest, wanted the head right double tap,

1707
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: and if the two shots, if the two shots of

1708
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 1: the chest don't work, because this is center mass is

1709
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to hit. It's really hard to like

1710
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,559
Speaker 1: shoot somebody in a kneecap or you know, to take

1711
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: a very shooting is much more difficult than you think.

1712
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: Most students happen to you still miss, you know, and

1713
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: you look at police shootings and more times than not

1714
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 1: you're missing your target because and they're only ten, twelve,

1715
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:38,360
Speaker 1: fifteen ft away. And so the training is center mass,

1716
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to hit is right in the middle

1717
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 1: of this picture. And then if that doesn't work, then

1718
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,560
Speaker 1: you try to do a failure drill, which is to

1719
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: hit him in the head because that's gonna stop him.

1720
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: If those first two shots don't work, then you go

1721
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: to where you know it's gonna stop him. And until

1722
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: you've seen people who have been shot and still continue

1723
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: to advance and still continue to fight, and you start

1724
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 1: to appreciate, like you know, there's but to your point,

1725
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: like I think, if given the opportunity, you should take

1726
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: that selective shot. If you have that chance and guy's

1727
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: got a knife put in. It's kind of crazy that,

1728
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, when you're trained and the first thought is

1729
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: regardless of the fucking situation, the traffic stop or whatever,

1730
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 1: but if it escalates to something, the first trained is

1731
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 1: bop bop, chest bop head, like, fuck it, this motherfucker

1732
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 1: is obviously drunk or obviously mentally whatever, So fucking bop bop,

1733
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: you know. But we're trained to send an ass bing

1734
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: bing and if that don't work, fuck it bing. No

1735
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:48,879
Speaker 1: question the languages, But I'm saying, how do you depict

1736
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: that from the situation that you know, a motherfucker drunk?

1737
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: And I know if this motherfucker wasn't drunk, he wouldn't

1738
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: probably be trying to come at me. So do I

1739
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: want to kill his motherfucker because he don't know what's

1740
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: going on? And by the way, though that happens all

1741
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, there's all kinds of these situations

1742
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 1: where they're like this, this guy's just not right in

1743
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: his mind, and he's not proudly you know that even

1744
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: though he's a threat because he's got a gun or

1745
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: i'm sorry, he's got a knife. Most likely he's got

1746
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: a baseball bat. Whatever, he's got a weapon, and that

1747
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 1: you just know that he's out of you know, and said,

1748
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 1: you do your best to try to figure that out.

1749
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: But once he becomes like an imminent threat where he's

1750
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: rushing you, then you gotta deal with that. And you know,

1751
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 1: whether it's in the think the easiest thing is to

1752
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 1: put two into his chest. And what's so funked up

1753
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: about that? Not to cut you off, James or whatever.

1754
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: But we're seeing so many situations. Put a white guy

1755
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: in the same situation and you see it all day

1756
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and motherfucker ran at him. He chased them around the

1757
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: car and they're like, hey, hey, man, come on stop,

1758
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot you when you But then when he comes,

1759
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: put somebody of his color in the place and it's instant.

1760
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the biggest difference with the nothing to

1761
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 1: cut you off. But this is what I think, that

1762
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,679
Speaker 1: white guy that's out there acting crazy, they're not really

1763
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: scared of him. When they pull you over, they already

1764
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 1: got him out their mind. Man, I might get murdered

1765
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: with this motherfucker's well, I'm not playing with it because

1766
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: see that's kind of that's kind of that's kind of fun.

1767
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: They use more caution with certain individuals that they deal with.

1768
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: And and unfortunately it is me. I'm the one with

1769
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: the name. I'm the one that they gotta worry about.

1770
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: Uh uh, Tom and Jodan. What these motherfucker's doing over here?

1771
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: So none times out of the chin that stop is

1772
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: not gonna be a severe Damn. I gotta look what

1773
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: they did to you. That's a big motherfucker right there.

1774
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Three four or four four, we gotta big motherfucker. This

1775
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: motherfucker might want to fight. So they got a call

1776
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: for back up and prepare the show to take you

1777
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 1: down because the way, But is that a decision that

1778
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: you personally make? Is that a decision you make in

1779
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: that situation if you see a white guy or a

1780
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: black guy or Mexican or what in the same scenario,

1781
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 1: do you make that personal de go I'm gonna handle

1782
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 1: this black guy differently than I handle this white guy

1783
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: or this and it's like three different Sonia, but they're

1784
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: all the same scenario. Yeah No, not for me, absolutely not.

1785
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: If I see a guy that's you're six six, six

1786
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 1: seven whatever you YEA. If I see a big guy,

1787
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 1: I know that I can't handle physically, right I don't

1788
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 1: care what color he is. That's a threat, right if

1789
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: we're going at it and get my ass kicks. So

1790
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure out a way to not engage with

1791
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: this man, whether it's tasting him or using whatever. I

1792
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: don't see it, you know. But that to your other

1793
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,520
Speaker 1: point here. The thing like, I think there's a perception

1794
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: um that more white guys get killed by the cops

1795
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: in this country than black guys. Yes, so statistically, the

1796
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: argument that you know that you're more at risk than

1797
01:39:56,479 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 1: the white guy, it just doesn't play out statistic I'm

1798
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,240
Speaker 1: not saying, you know, more at risk in my neighborhood

1799
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: where I'm from, though, most like yeah, absolutely, And so

1800
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, all these things happen to be taken into consideration.

1801
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that that the vast majority, I don't

1802
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 1: think that they that they're racially motivated shootings. I think

1803
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: that what happens is that horrible scenarios arise, cops out

1804
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 1: of fear or justified force take action. It always looks bad.

1805
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: It always looks bad to shoot somebody, no matter what

1806
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 1: it's just is always gonna look bad, and there's always

1807
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: going to be then opportunity to second guess it and

1808
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: go Could it have been done differently and better? Sometimes yes,

1809
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 1: sometimes no. But you know, I don't think that this

1810
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: racial animosity that we have in this country today is justified.

1811
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: I personally don't believe it. And I think that the

1812
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: police officers today are better than they have ever been

1813
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: in the history of our country. In the sixties they

1814
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: were the city exties. The seventies they got better than nineties,

1815
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 1: were better than the eighties, two thousand and twenties, better

1816
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: than two thousand and ten. Because we're learning through our

1817
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: mistakes and you can't get away with ship. We're all

1818
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 1: you know, everything's monitored, everything's you know, three and four

1819
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: levels of of evaluation, body cameras. All of these things

1820
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 1: are done so that we have to be held accountable.

1821
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 1: But it also allows us to see what's going on

1822
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: and in our culture. Right now, you know, we're just

1823
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:33,759
Speaker 1: having knee jerk reactions to things that look bad. Yeah, exactly,

1824
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 1: and before you know, before we wrap up, we've been

1825
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 1: towing a wild Now. I wanted to ask, when this

1826
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: may be a rhetorical question, let's go back at the beginning.

1827
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: Why do you think the murder rate is so high

1828
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: in California. Well, I think that I think cops are

1829
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: afraid to do their job, and so I think that

1830
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: there is to to James's point is like when the

1831
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 1: enforcement is less, the streets are gonna do more than

1832
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: they would have there not been this presence. And so

1833
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 1: I think that when we pin a handcuff the police

1834
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 1: where they're scared to do their job, skis they're gonna

1835
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: get second and triple guests. You know, we don't have

1836
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 1: the enforcement capabilities consequences. Yeah, I think that maybe that's

1837
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 1: part of it. And then you know what, because you

1838
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: know that's true. The state is so liberal. You know.

1839
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 1: I want to go try to buy twelve gigs the

1840
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: other day, and they were telling me it was just

1841
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 1: like I might as well have been going to go

1842
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: buy mac tim because they gave me such a hard time.

1843
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 1: When you don't have this before when I used to

1844
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: go by twelve gigs, I can should mind beat give it.

1845
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: And I'm a lot, you know what I mean, I

1846
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 1: might minutes max, you know what I mean. Now you

1847
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 1: can't go buy bullets, you can't. You know, it's it's

1848
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. So it's almost like this state

1849
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,839
Speaker 1: being so liberal, it almost as in power up the criminal.

1850
01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 1: They got all the guns, they won't Well, we'll be

1851
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 1: we'll be at a lordship we get rid of the police.

1852
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 1: I think at the police need to do a little

1853
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,879
Speaker 1: better with how they handle certain situations. Uh as farthers

1854
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,799
Speaker 1: checking the police that they're putting on the job because

1855
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: some of them really don't care. Some of them look

1856
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: at it as a paycheck and I'm going home, so

1857
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: they don't care how they treat the people. Any Time

1858
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 1: you get a police officer that that will beat the

1859
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: shit out of a sixty year old woman he's mad

1860
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 1: at something else, don't bring that to your job. And

1861
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 1: I think they need to fix that part. I think

1862
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: it would be better. But we have to learn how

1863
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 1: to police our own hoods. And and let's say, help

1864
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 1: police our own hoods, because we ain't gonna be able

1865
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: to do it, you know what. We Yeah, we definitely

1866
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 1: need the police. And I think one thing, Yeah, what

1867
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: the don to get rid of the police. But what

1868
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:57,600
Speaker 1: what we need is our feel We need to have

1869
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:02,600
Speaker 1: more um, we have to need to have more communication

1870
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: with officers who joined in the fucking forces with as

1871
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 1: far as why you want to patrol over here? Just

1872
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: the bombers ship right here. If you can get us

1873
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: to work with the police, like I'm so handed hands

1874
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: for the real ship and being there, because the first

1875
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 1: thing they're gonna say, oh, you're with the police, is

1876
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: ntch No, what is the community? What do the community

1877
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: meaning you? We're tearing it up, so it don't mean

1878
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 1: ship to us, you know what I'm saying. So you

1879
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: get them and you work with them to help us

1880
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 1: get rid of and fix the ship that moving the

1881
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: sore thumbs. You know what I'm saying. We need to

1882
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 1: get rid of the sore thumbs people from getting killed you.

1883
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: But like you said, if you can't give rid of

1884
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: a mob, James, You're gonna always have a problem, you

1885
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because that dude purpose is just

1886
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 1: to be a game bagger and create your habit. So

1887
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 1: you gotta remove him, you know what I'm saying. If

1888
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,599
Speaker 1: you ain't do that, the hood ain't gonna do it

1889
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 1: unless he get killed. That's the only way to get

1890
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 1: rid of you. But if you if you got guys

1891
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 1: like us and saying, okay, our hood, we need to

1892
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: fix this. So because it saves your nieces, your little cousins,

1893
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: your nephews and everybody else because now they see us

1894
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:25,480
Speaker 1: working with them, helping fix what we call our community,

1895
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: our neighborhood. You see what I'm saying. If you don't

1896
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: do that, then we find each other and you know

1897
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 1: what the problem it was. Man, The first thing somebody

1898
01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: go say, oh, he's working with the police, because people's

1899
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:41,200
Speaker 1: definition with snitchey meals is so like skewed and funked

1900
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 1: up nowadays. For the record, sniche is this. If you

1901
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 1: are a member of the underworld and you're partaking any

1902
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: criminal activity, like you go rob a bank, your partner

1903
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: you robbed the bank with, don't get caught. But you

1904
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 1: get caught and you say, well, man, I know the

1905
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,600
Speaker 1: eight hedn't want to talk me into this ship. And

1906
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: he even he still got a hundred fifty dollars he

1907
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 1: did it. And he's hiding over his cousin's house on Riverside.

1908
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: That's snitching right there. That's what snaky kneels right there.

1909
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: If my wife I'm not at home enough, somebody's breaking

1910
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: the house and she called the alarm company and they

1911
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 1: come over there and say that man was trying to

1912
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 1: break in my window. She is a civilian woman. She

1913
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,360
Speaker 1: is not a snick She's incapable of being a snitch.

1914
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: And that's the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. What

1915
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: you call a competent and uh oh yeah, that's it.

1916
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, these these kids that they they got,

1917
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: they call them motherfucker's rhets just to call people. You

1918
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 1: got people out there today and just slow behind that

1919
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 1: hip hop ship and the code of of hip hop

1920
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 1: and the code of you know, the Takashi bullshit and

1921
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 1: all that ship then. And like I said, the youth today, uh,

1922
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 1: they inherit, uh the snitching ship of some new form

1923
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: of whatever. Like you said, we've been dealing with that

1924
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 1: ship for a decade. Motherfucker's used to go tell Bump

1925
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 1: Johnson or who was doing this or delivering the numbers

1926
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever. So we've had snitching, so to speak,

1927
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 1: since the beginning of time. What it is is that civilians,

1928
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: we never considered civilians to be snitchers. You know, we

1929
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:19,400
Speaker 1: never considered a motherfucker if it was an innocent kid

1930
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 1: got killed or a baby and you told who did

1931
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 1: to drive by shooting or ship. You know, it's just

1932
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 1: a different code that we have and what the kids

1933
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: want to do nowadays. Uh So it shouldn't be a

1934
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: factor of niggas from the neighborhood wanting to control the

1935
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: neighborhood on a positive aspect, because ship, when you're happy

1936
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: and everything is fun and fine and everybody got money,

1937
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 1: you usually don't have the fucking problems. So and then

1938
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 1: another thing with trying to control our areas and getting

1939
01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 1: rid of the bad motherfucker because you just have to

1940
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 1: get you a pack of niggas who want to see

1941
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 1: the hood doing better. Si ganga niggas like this. I

1942
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 1: just want to ask one question, one last question before

1943
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:07,639
Speaker 1: we get out of here. Um we need police your

1944
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 1: mentality when you were a kid, what made you want

1945
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: to become a cop? So? Um, I never thought about

1946
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: it as a kid, like it was never even a

1947
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 1: thought in my mind. And then as I got older,

1948
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: and uh, I realized that, you know, I was gonna

1949
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 1: have to make it on my own and figure out

1950
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: how to how to do that. A friend of mine's

1951
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,400
Speaker 1: dad was a cop and he was also my football coach,

1952
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 1: and so he was somewhat of a mentor. And so

1953
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: I grew up without my dad, and so you know,

1954
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: I kind of fell under this guy's influence and he's like, Greg,

1955
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, you're in any direction where it's very easy

1956
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 1: for you to get, you know, into a situation where

1957
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 1: you'll never have an opportunity to do this because yeah,

1958
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, I was heading for trouble and he goes,

1959
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, but it's so far. You haven't gotten to

1960
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: the point where you've disqualified yourself. And it's a good career.

1961
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: And so I didn't do it out of this, you know,

1962
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 1: this aspiration like I just want to be a caught.

1963
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 1: I looked at it as this is a really good

1964
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: career and it's a chance for me to get in

1965
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: a good profession. I was relatively uneducated at a G E.

1966
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 1: D UM And to your other point, though, I think

1967
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: education should be absolutely required for anybody going to law enforcement.

1968
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 1: You should have a college education. And these days, you know,

1969
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 1: I think that that's um. But for me, I got it.

1970
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: I got into it because there was an opportunity. And

1971
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 1: then once I started, UM, I just I it was

1972
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: the right career path for me. But just because of

1973
01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, I grew up all around dope.

1974
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: I grew up with a hippie mom. I grew up

1975
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 1: in all this environment where I could really appreciate and

1976
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: empathize with the people that I was encountering. No drug addicts.

1977
01:49:56,479 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 1: I understood, like, this can happen to anybody, almost right.

1978
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 1: I didn't see them, rejected them. That also saw the

1979
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: sinister aspect of it, of the people that we're dealing

1980
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: those dope or dealing drives. So all of that just

1981
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: evolved into me being um a police officer that I

1982
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 1: think as relatively fit for it. I don't know if

1983
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 1: that answer your question. It just it just ends with

1984
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say and end with is you

1985
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 1: have to appreciate your job or you want to you know,

1986
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you can come into law enforcement or

1987
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: want to be a police with the mentality of that

1988
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 1: fuck it you give me. You know, you thought it

1989
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 1: was a good career and in doing so, you were

1990
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: able to come in and figure out, yeah, dope, shit

1991
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: is fucked up and crackheads and fucking kids whatever. Whatever.

1992
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying about today with the policing,

1993
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: we need to find motherfucker's who really are passionate about

1994
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 1: being a fucking pole. That's that's the point. He was

1995
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 1: able to relate growing up sin and ship. So now

1996
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm a police officers. Now that he's the police officer,

1997
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: he could relate to being on the street and see

1998
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: the ship that was going on and and uh what

1999
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: is that? Um damn, I got the word for this.

2000
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 1: He see what's going on, and and now I can

2001
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 1: I relate to talking to these people because I've been

2002
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: around it. I know what it's about. So it's it's

2003
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:40,600
Speaker 1: a good move. So you can honestly say he's in

2004
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 1: the right place because I can relate to you people.

2005
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 1: I can relate to what you're going through. Cocaine hit

2006
01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: everybody go by. It didn't have no no, no, it

2007
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:56,120
Speaker 1: wasn't racist. It took everybody out that. I think that

2008
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: was would be way better for situations day if dudes

2009
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 1: who joined the force were educated. Uh, we're knowledgeable about

2010
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 1: where they're from, the police, the people in the area

2011
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 1: of the community, and not just right now you give me.

2012
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: You need to study and learn about what's been happening

2013
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 1: over in the mob for the last thirty years. You

2014
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,639
Speaker 1: need to know what down and Dragon or south Side

2015
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: or where. So that's all that was my last point.

2016
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm done there. There's this real quick thing seven grade

2017
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 1: with what you said about we bought. We've got to

2018
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: work together, right, We've got to figure that out. How

2019
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: to you know, regain a mutual um respect for one

2020
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 1: another that you started this whole thing out with, Like

2021
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 1: what is it like to grow up in hopelessness? And

2022
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:52,600
Speaker 1: like until we get those communities to where there's to

2023
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: where there's opportunity. Until you can get those communities to

2024
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 1: where there's opportunity, there's gonna be hopelessness. And when the

2025
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 1: hopelessness becomes a d valuation of life and the evaluation

2026
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 1: of life, well, I'm just gonna take some ship from

2027
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 1: you to take your life because it really doesn't mean anything.

2028
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 1: And that until we get those communities to where there's

2029
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity, then you're still gonna have that sense of

2030
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: like what the funk might not I'll just go out

2031
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: and take mine, that's right? Is that right? I just

2032
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 1: feel like you've got to figure out how to make

2033
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: the fire out. People feel like if people have opportunities

2034
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 1: to work towards, you know, when you ain't got an

2035
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to work towards and that and ship, it's gonna

2036
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: be a bad day. And with that that reps up

2037
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 1: in another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Who like

2038
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,480
Speaker 1: think Greg Katie Man forgiving us some really insightful information.

2039
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: You got a podcast coming out, don't you. And I'm

2040
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: hoping to you you know what, I'm trying to do

2041
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 1: this little thing I want to do. You guys remember

2042
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:49,560
Speaker 1: that Christopher Dorner case that things are gonna try to

2043
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 1: do something with that that's really do That's yeah, definitely

2044
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 1: we could be to open Greg out with that man

2045
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 1: and supporting them for whatever he needs. Man Is he's

2046
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: definitely a friend of the show d and you will

2047
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 1: hear more from him. Make sure you go check out

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01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 1: our website man www dot Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com.

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Speaker 1: Hit us up on Instagram with the gainst the Chronicles podcasts,

2050
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Speaker 1: and everywhere else on Make sure you download that I

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01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 1: heart app, go to Apple, it tunes, subscribe, comment, and

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01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: we out of here. Jim the Chronicles, He's brunch you

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Speaker 1: by that podcasting a