1 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: Hey, professional Homegirls and men. Before we dive into this 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: week's episode, let's handle some housekeeping real quick. Make sure 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: to give me a follow at the Professional Homegirl on Instagram, 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: TikTok and YouTube. Oh and don't forget to follow at 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: the PHG podcast on Instagram as well so we can 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: keep key about the episodes. And if you're loving the 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: conversations from the show, show some love by dropping a 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: five star review on Apple Podcasts. Remember hold me down, 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: don't hold me up. 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: Okay. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed this week's episode, but if 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the conversation starts to become triggering, please remember to put 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: your well being and your mental health first. Love y'all, 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: deep and until next time. Lada, our amazing guest, is 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: back to Key Key on the next chapter of her 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: life changing journey. Get ready for some real talk as 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: she dives into the nitty greedy of how she tackled 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: the hurdles that life threw her way, from epic challenges 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: to sweet victories. She's holding nothing back, child, and I 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: mean nothing. Okay. Get ready to be inspired because her 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: life is nothing short of a roller coaster ride, but 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: one that is well worth it. Let's dive into part 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: two of our guest Incredible Transformation starting now. So, how 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: do you feel about men? 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Now? 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: I know we like in the middle of your story, 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: but I can only imagine from like cause You're right, 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: every person in your life that did that brought harm 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: to you were men. 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be honest with you. God has healed me. 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: And I want to say, is I want to say 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: about a good three years? About good three years because 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: even though I came to church trying to give myself right, 34 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: I've been churched, I've been abused by churchmen's content. It 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: was a continued thing. Mmmm. So I will honestly say 36 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: these last three years, guy has really been transformed in 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: my heart where I don't hate men, but I'm very 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: caut shit. Yeah, I'm very call shoit me too. I'll 39 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: be having guys trying to talk to me and I'll 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: be giving them the second girl. We got like one 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: hundred questions. 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't play with these men. I do not 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: listen like I don't have kids yet and I haven't 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: been abused, but like just been doing this for so long, 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: or having close friends that's been abused, or like you know, 46 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: just being in growing up in her neighborhoods. You just 47 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: see things like I don't play no games, Like I 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: can spy a predator out of way. 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: You know what I can too? Yeah, I can too. 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: I can't walk the streets, and I can tell. I 51 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: can tell, and then if I say something about it 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: and somebody I got these France girls, I got two 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: good friends. When I say, if you getting him a name, 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: they will go five that person. Yeah, and then they'll 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: come back. Oh my gosh, he was, how did you know. 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. It's just something I guess 57 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: from my abuse. I can tell. I could just tell. 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't play no games with these men, so 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: have my nieces. I'd be like, keep you ill. 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: Wow. 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Another story you mentioned is that you were kidnapped. 62 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was, it's not funny, but so it was. 63 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: It was me and a couple of my friends. We 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: was being fast. I was like sixteen and we were 65 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: being fast walking the streets like one two o'clock in 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: the morning, and the guy. Later on, I found out 67 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: that the guy chose when he's seen me first, and 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: then he chose to do what he did because he 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: knew My second husband now mad you. My second husband 70 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: was in the game, right, so he knew my second 71 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: husband and he had this thing that he wanted to 72 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: hurt him and he was going to take me and 73 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: kidnap me so he can find girl. Was crazy when 74 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: I found out about it. But that's what happened. We 75 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: was being fast walking the streets one two o'clock in 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: the morning. These guys was driving. They did a whole 77 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: U turn and you know back then, you know they'll 78 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: pull up on you, and you know you will be 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: talking like what you are. Then all of a sudden, 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: they jumped out. They jumped out the car, and I 81 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: think all of us was like because there were three 82 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: of us, were shocked, like what is going on? So 83 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: they got us in the car. But the way they 84 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: had me in the car, I couldn't get out because 85 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: my two friends had they were able to escape. 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: Hih, Were you mad that they left you? 87 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: No? I wasn't mad, beca because the way the way 88 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: we were situated in the court, if I had a 89 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: chance to get out, I probably would have got right. 90 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: I really wasn't. I wasn't man because I was like 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 2: in the middle, like they had me smushed in the middle. 92 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: So it was no way I can. I was able 93 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: to get out. 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: So when you to what happened next? Because you was 95 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: in the car with the guys. So when did when 96 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: did it just become you and him? 97 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: So he because he I don't know if he was 98 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: driving when they pulled up from us, I can't remember that, 99 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: but I know when it got us, he was the 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: one that was driving. So he dropped the other guys off. 101 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: He had me up in the front now once again, 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: because I'm so used to if you threaten me, I 103 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: go numb. And so he threatened me. He had threatened me, 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: and so I was just I was numb and I 105 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: was stuck. So we went to this little mo tell 106 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: we went to this motel. We got out and everything, 107 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: and I promise you that man never touched me. 108 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: So what did y'all do or what did he do? Nothing? 109 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: Nothing? 110 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Because I know he kept me for like three days. 111 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, he did nothing to me, and he made 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: sure I ate. That's when I found out why he 113 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: did it because I asked him. I said, well, why 114 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: why are you doing it? Yeah? I said, so what 115 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 2: what he said, Well, I'm gonna say my second husband, 116 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say his name. He was like, well, you 117 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: know your second husband and he think he tough, and 118 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: when I seen you, that was a great opportunity for 119 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: me to grab you to get back in him. I'm 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: looking like, I'd rather you just have sex for me, 121 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: like if you really want to get back at and 122 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: get back. 123 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: A like we gonna do this, let's do it. 124 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: But he never and he is the one who dropped 125 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: me off. He said, what do you want me to 126 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: drop you off there? And I and I told him 127 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: to draw me off at my friend's house. 128 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: So when your second husband found out what happened, like 129 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: anything happened to be mad. 130 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: He was mad, but he didn't find out until I 131 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: want to say, maybe a year because we had broken up. 132 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: So the guy didn't even know we broke up, so 133 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: he didn't even know, but I had. We was talking 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: and I happened to say I told him the situation, 135 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: and he was mad, but it was overwhere it was 136 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: like a whole year ago. 137 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 1: So right, you have a question and be like, yo, God, 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: come on now, you gotta give me a break. 139 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: I did you know what? I have never been the 140 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: person you know how you hear a lot of people 141 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: say they was mad at God. I have never been 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: mad at God. I didn't know how to be mad 143 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: at God because I told you, my mom been in 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: church forever. She never she never gave us that opportunity 145 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: to be mad at God, like I something went on, 146 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: let's say our lights was cut off. She will always say, 147 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: you still praise God because He's going to make a way. 148 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: And so she never gave us that. We can't even 149 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: think to hate God. But I did question God like look, now. 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Come on now me like, what's what's the goal here? 151 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: So what what what is your real purpose of this? 152 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Right? 153 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, but I never I was never mad at 154 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: God about nothing. That's why I believe. And I tell 155 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: like I'm a mentor, I tell my mentees, I just 156 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: this is just my personal belief. I believe everything we 157 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: go through God has a perfect plan for it, even 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: the pain. He has a perfect plan for your pain 159 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: and when. And the reason why I say that is 160 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: because where I'm at right now, I am able to 161 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: be somebody's mouthpiece. I'm able to help someone to to 162 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: to not want to kill someone. It's something better on 163 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: the other side. I know you hurt, but it's something 164 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: better on the other time. On other side, Hey, what 165 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: do you want to do? So that's when I started 166 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: realizing because I have always been one of those kids 167 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 2: that had a journal. I always had a journal, and 168 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: so going through my therapy, when my when my baby girl, 169 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: the therapist sought me, she said, why don't you write 170 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: a book? Now? It took me years later to do that, 171 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: but I realized when I when I write, a lot 172 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: of my pain come out of my writing. 173 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: But was it triggering for you? 174 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: It was triggering, but then it would trigger, but then 175 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: it would h hill at the same time. 176 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, becoming a mother to four children, do 177 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: you feel that your firstborn was the turning point in 178 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: your life? 179 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: She was a turning point and she called the work 180 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: the rough part of me that make then they make 181 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: make saying so because I had her, that was a 182 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: lot of the reasons why I decided to Look, I 183 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: can't hang out with the same people no more. Yeah, 184 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: I can't be going around fighting folks for nothing. 185 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're feel bad? So you felt bad about that? 186 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: You ever felt bad about beating people up like where 187 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: you at now? 188 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: No? I never thought no, I never no. 189 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: And the only reason why I ask because I know 190 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: now you are in your heel version of yourself, So 191 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: looking back, you can be like, damn that person that 192 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: deserve that. 193 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: It never really thought about it. I'm gonna be honest. 194 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: I just never really thought about it. But then if 195 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: I look back at some people like, nah, they needed 196 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: the only person. Now that I'm glad you asked me 197 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: that the only person that I will say I regret. 198 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: Me and my siblings had like a fan me fight 199 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: with another bunch of siblings and instead of me fighting 200 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: the kids, I fought the mother. So I do regret 201 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: that point now that you brought that back to me. 202 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: I do regret that because she was somebody's mother. But 203 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: at that time I didn't. I just didn't care. 204 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: You know, No, me got to get you a lifetime moving, 205 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: then you must be her. 206 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: Bad I did? It was really it was really bad. 207 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: Wow. 208 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, But then that came back from I used to 209 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: forget mothers. I wasn't too big on fighting girls. I 210 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: was real big on girl I got a sister that 211 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: to fight you, or I give my friends to fight you. 212 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: But where y'r mama at? Yeah? 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Because that was that was how you felt about your mother. 214 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: That's how I felt about my mother and I and 215 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: I to get those mothers and those grandmothers. 216 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: Grandma not It's like I. 217 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 2: Had one grandmother that stayed on the same street. But 218 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: that's only because she didn't act like a grandmother. Like 219 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: I know she had grandkids, but she didn't act like one. 220 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: So you go get into brandy, how. 221 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Many grandma should beat up? 222 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know that this is this 223 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: one grandmother. She gave me a run for my money, hunty, 224 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: and she should. 225 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Man, she had to put you on your ass because you, well, 226 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: run for mama what she was breaking. 227 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: What we became. We became best friends before she died. 228 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: We became real good friends. Yeah, wow, run for my money, honey. 229 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: I was trying. I was swearing. 230 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: I was girl, you ran up on the right one. 231 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: But we became real good friends after that because we 232 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: were able to talk. Like she came to me and 233 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: she was like, why would you want to fight me? 234 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: Then I just looked at her and I was like, 235 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. And that was her opportunity to talk 236 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: to me. 237 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: And did you tell her what was going on and 238 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: stuff or things that haven't occurred. 239 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: He at that time, I wasn't really talking like that 240 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: I was just like, you know, I got father issues, 241 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: and she was like, well, yeah, you know, I had 242 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: father issues and dah da da da. And so she 243 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: went on from ther and then like she would see 244 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 2: me going to the store, she would walk with me 245 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: to the store. She would just talk to me, and 246 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: so we became friends before she passed away. Yeah, where 247 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: was your mom? Mom's at at work in that church? Wow, 248 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: my mom spent a lot of time because she was 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: the bread wind. 250 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: No no, no, not your mom, your grandmam, but your mom's mother. 251 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: My mom's mother and her dad had passed away when 252 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: she was younger. Oh okay, like fifteen and sixteen year 253 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 2: so we never knew her parents, right. 254 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: So what were some of the things you did to 255 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: get back on track and rebuild your life? 256 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: It was so hard, boy. But the first thing I 257 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 2: did start attending church, because that's all I kind of knew, 258 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: like you got to I had to do something different. 259 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: So church was different for me. So that was the 260 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: first thing, is to attend the church. And then from ther, 261 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: I went to college. I went to college. I went 262 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: to a community college. It took me a minute to 263 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: graduate only do to I had to go through surgery, 264 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: so I had to sit out, I had to heal, 265 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: and then I was pregnant. Then I had kids. So 266 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: it took me a little minute to go back to school, 267 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: but I did. I got got my associates and degrees, right, 268 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: I do I have. I have associates and human services, 269 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: which is it's similar to social work. So and then 270 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: I went back to school and got I went to 271 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: a theology seminary, so I have my bachelor's and Christian theology. 272 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nah, this is my favorite story man, because you're 273 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: also a minister. 274 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: Y's man, I'm a whole pastor. 275 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me stop cursing and be respectful. You just 276 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: that's okay because you just got me so excited with 277 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: this story. 278 00:15:25,240 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: That girl, that's okay, that's okay, that's okay, that's okay, okay, okay. 279 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: Wow, what made you get to the grad theology? 280 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: I just wanted a little more than what I was 281 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: getting from church. M You know, church, you don't need 282 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: to teach you certain stuff, you know what I'm saying. 283 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Nothing against church, but I just wanted a. 284 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: Little more, especially when it comes to the understanding of 285 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: the word and stuff. 286 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, hmm. 287 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: Now I feel like the moment you were on the 288 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: right path, another unfortunate incident happened and you would jump 289 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: by five men. 290 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was during the time that was back. 291 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: I want to say I was nineteen because my daughter 292 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: was just one. So that was during the time when 293 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: I was like, I can't do this no more. I'm 294 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: cutting all this out. Let me go, let me get 295 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: into somebody's school. So I just thought I was cool 296 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: because it was a different environment, right right, And I'm 297 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: just to walk into the store early. First of all, 298 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: I was early in the morning. It was like seven 299 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: to eight o'clock in the morning, na, And I'm walking 300 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: and once again this core passes me and it made 301 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: a new time. I'm still not thinking nothing like okay, 302 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: people make you turns. Baby. I couldn't even get halfway 303 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: across the street. Them boys, those grown men jumped out 304 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: their car, and I mean it was a bunch of them. 305 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: They just and they had backs, they had poles and 306 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: all kind of all I knew to do is just 307 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: crawl in a fetal position in the middle of the street. 308 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: And all I remember hearing get off of her. And 309 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: so when I kind of peeked in between, like in 310 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: between a couple of the boys. It was an old 311 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: man and they ring. I don't know what. I don't 312 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: know if that old man was like old. 313 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Ran because that's what I was getting from the store 314 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: when I had. 315 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: All hopped in the car and they just ran off, 316 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: and he came and he was trying to help me up. 317 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: I was bleeding. I mad you. I was bleeding so bad. 318 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: I thought it was raining, that's how bad I was 319 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: bleeding from my head. I was bleeding. He was telling me, 320 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: take your take your shirt off so I can't wrap 321 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: it around your head. But because I'm so at that time, 322 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: I was so used to defending myself, I was just like, 323 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm fine, Just let me go, just let 324 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: me go. So I made. I made it home. I made. 325 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: And I knew that was the rivalry game due to 326 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: their color. M m yeah. And you you know you 327 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: hear stuff. You think you want to ride with so 328 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: and so and so and so, you think you tough, 329 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: you know you hear all that. 330 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: So yeah mmm, and then you went home and just 331 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: doctor your stuff like because that's what I was used to. 332 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: And I used to fighting on the street with my 333 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: friends and we used to come home with bruises. That's 334 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: what I was used to doing, a doctor and all myself. 335 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: So that's what I did. And at that time, my 336 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: siblings was a whole lot younger than me, so they 337 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 2: already had my daughter. So I just made it. I 338 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: made it in the house where they couldn't. They knew 339 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: I came, but they didn't really see nothing. So I 340 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: kind of like ran past them, went to the bathroom 341 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: doctor on myself. Just like in the movies when people 342 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: put something in their mouth so they won't scream. I 343 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: literally had to do that because I but I got 344 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: a gash right here in my head and I have 345 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 2: two gashes, and so I was pouring alcohol and peroxide 346 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: in her. So I had to put something in my 347 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: mouth so my siblings, my younger siblings wouldn't hear me, right, yep, 348 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: I had. I had a gash in my eye. This 349 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: I remember. My left eye was black, my nose was bloody, 350 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: my body was bruised because they kicking me, you know. 351 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: So I had the doctor on myself and why are 352 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: you even want to go to the hospital, like because 353 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: it was gang related, because that would have been the 354 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: first thing they would have asked me. What I you know, 355 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: and I ain't know what the lab, I ain't know 356 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: what kind of life to say. 357 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: I would have been like I was literally just walking 358 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: down the street. 359 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: So I was just like, that's game related. You know. 360 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: They probably put me in a black out and all 361 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 2: that crack. I was just thinking and the most important 362 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: thing that had me going was my doughma. I was 363 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: just like, I'm just gonna get myself together for my dough. 364 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, So, how has therapy or counseling been beneficial 365 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: in your healing process? 366 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: That's the greatest thing ever I tell people, and I 367 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: know it's taboo in the black community, but I tell people, 368 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: you get get with a really good therapist because what 369 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: therapy did for me, they did not judge me, and 370 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: that's what therapists not supposed to, right. Yeah. So I 371 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: was able to express myself without wondering how you're gonna 372 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: look at me when I walk out of here? How 373 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: you go look at me while I'm talking to you. 374 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: So I was able to express myself and that's that 375 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: was the beginning of me. Because mad you at first 376 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 2: didn't I didn't say too much and nothing. 377 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: What made what made you go to therapy? 378 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: My doctor okay, okay, I was pregnant. I was pregnant 379 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: with my eighteen year old, and I guess she's saying it, 380 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: and she kind of threatened me. Yeah, he was like, 381 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a referral and if you 382 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: don't go, this is what's going to happen. And all that. 383 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: That's what made me go. And I thank her because 384 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: I did it for about four years. 385 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow, and you was going to the same therapist 386 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: or mm say it. 387 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: Was a white it was a white, older white lady. 388 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, cool, cool, wow. And I also think I 389 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: heard or I read somewhere that you was diagnosed with 390 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: PTSDN bipolar one. 391 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: Yes, actually the psychiatrist. So I went to a therapist, 392 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 2: then a psychiatry. So the psychiatrist is the one who 393 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: diagnosed me. But when I thought, when I think back, 394 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: I'm like, sure that she gave me that a little longer. 395 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: But every no, not even trying to be funny, but 396 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: everything that you've been through is very traumatizing. 397 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very traumatizing. And I'm an advocate of medicine. 398 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: Now I don't force medicine, but like I tell people, 399 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: just try it. It's nothing wrong with just trying it. 400 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: If it don't work, it just don't work. But I'm 401 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: an advocate because it worked for me. It worked for me, 402 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: and it worked for me to the point when when 403 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: I did wean myself out and I felt, you know, 404 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: those same symptoms coming back, I'm like, oh, okay, I know, 405 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: I know what's going on. Now, you know what I'm saying. 406 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: So I'm an advocate of medicine. I didn't have to 407 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: do it that long, but I did, and it and 408 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 2: it helped. Yeah, and the help. 409 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like when you find the right medication, yes, 410 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: that's that's because I. 411 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: Had I had to go through and no, it was 412 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: just it was just too it was two different kinds. 413 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: So once you find the right and then it does you, 414 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: well do what you do what's going to help you. 415 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: That's what I tell people, right, you know, don't get 416 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: caught up with people saying, well, you go be acting 417 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 2: like this, because I did when I got that right 418 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: man saying you will never know you know how, you 419 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: know how, you will never know why I was on 420 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: it because I was still preaching, I was still ministring, 421 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: I was still I was a dance instructor, and I 422 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: had three kids. So that's that's one of my examples 423 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: when I tell people and they didn't even know. 424 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, did you tell people? 425 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: It did not change me. I wasn't like no zombie, 426 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: I wasn't nothing like that. It just it had me focused. Yeah, 427 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 2: it just had me focused. 428 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: And that's probably why you was able to accomplis so much. 429 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I ain't think about that. That's good girl. 430 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm baby Oprah. So how did you learn 431 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: to trust others again after experiencing all of this abuse. 432 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I still have that problem. Mm hmm. 433 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: I still have a trust issue. The only difference is 434 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 2: what you give me. I understand now, that's that's what 435 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: you give me. So I'm not trying to make an 436 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: example like if I see a black guy out here 437 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: and whatever, he looked like my dad, I don't instantly 438 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: go into, oh he's so rapist and he is. No. 439 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: If it's meant for us to have a conversation, I'm 440 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: gonna have a conversation with you, and I'm gonna I'm 441 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: gonna treat you the way you you bring whatever you 442 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: bring out to me. So my trust I still have 443 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: trust issues. But it it's only with what you what 444 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: you give to me, And then I'd be like, oh, okay, 445 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: I kind of knew that, but you know I was 446 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: giving the benefita down. Yeah. 447 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: Do you still get triggered? 448 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: Very much? So? Yeah, I still have dreams. Yeah. I 449 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: cannot stand the smell of cigarettes because my dad was 450 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: a cigarette smoker. I cannot. I cannot stand the smell 451 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: of beer because my dad was a beer drinker and 452 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: he made me drink beer. Before he used to put 453 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: his hands on me, he would make me drink beer. 454 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: So I can't stand the smell or the taste of beer. 455 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 2: And cigarettes is a big thing for me. So I 456 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: do get I still get trigger. I still have dreams. 457 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: I just know how. I just know how to cope 458 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: with them. With the grace of God, I just know 459 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: how to cope with them right now. No. 460 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: Earlier, we spoke about receiving an apology from both of 461 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: your parents, But have you forgiven them, especially your dad? 462 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: Absolute I got to. Yeah, I got to, and I 463 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: believe that that's why he's still living. Well that makes sense, Yeah, 464 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: because I done for a long time, because I don't 465 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: know if you heard the part that I tried to 466 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: kill him twice. No, he got out of jail. So 467 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: when he got out of jail back when I was 468 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 2: nineteen by nineteen nineteen and a half, I tried to 469 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: kill him. Pow. The first time I tried to kill him, 470 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: I was still dealing with some of the guys that 471 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: I used to roll. 472 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: With, and I told him, you're gonna line him up. 473 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna. Yeah, every time you laugh, you make 474 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 2: me laugh. 475 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: I love it. 476 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 477 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: And so what happened? I mean, obviously he's still a lie. 478 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: But so what had happened at that time? Because I 479 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: was I was about could call him because we had 480 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: it all planned out. If he when he go out 481 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: this the other So what happened? My siblings came home, 482 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: look at God, I had, so I had to call 483 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: it off. So the second time I wrote. 484 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: It out, what I'm assuming that they was gonna they 485 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: was gonna shoo him up. 486 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: They get them right? 487 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: Does your dad know this? 488 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, Chip, I don't think my mom do. 489 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: And what she saying nothing, it's not what can she say? 490 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: She can't her saying nothing? She was just looking at me. Wow. 491 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: And then the second but the second time I wrote 492 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: it out and if if I believe it my memory, 493 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: I think she found the letter. So what I was 494 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: going to do, I was gonna drench him in gasoline 495 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: and I was gonna cover my mother with one of 496 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: those torches. I was going to cover her. I was 497 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: gonna drench him with gasoline and hear me up and 498 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: strike it. Wow. But I wrote it out and I 499 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: believe she found it, and so that's what stopped it. 500 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: And she ain't say nothing about that. 501 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: No, she told me she found the lab. It's coming 502 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: back to me now. 503 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: And then did she what did you say? Like, did 504 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: you have a conversation about it? 505 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: I was just like, he go die, he go out, 506 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: That's all I kept saying. 507 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: Wow, I really do hope your mom and y'all have 508 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: a conversation, because for her to still be with him 509 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: after knowing what he did to one of her babies 510 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: is like and that I mean, by the grace of God, 511 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you're here because that would have 512 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: broke a lot of people. 513 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, just a couple of years ago, right before 514 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: my book. What's it before my book? I think it 515 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: was a little bit before my book. Me and him 516 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: had got into an altercation at her house. And it 517 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: was only due too, because I walked in. He was drunk, 518 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: high and drunk, and he hit me my mom. So, now, 519 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: six years ago, I'm forty years old. You not about 520 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: to put your hands on my mom, right, because you 521 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: don't know who you're dealing with. Right. So I hauls 522 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: off and I'm all up in his face, you know. 523 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: So my mom gets in the middle, like I'm ready. 524 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a knife. I'm ready to kill him. 525 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: I need to kill him, just saying. And he told 526 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: me in the midst of there, he said, I never 527 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: wanted you. I wish you was dead. I never wish you. 528 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 2: I never wanted you. I always wish you was dead. 529 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: And that always kind of like fade in my ears 530 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: here and there because even though we was ordering, I 531 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: never said that to him. Yeah, I never said that 532 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: to him. But I believe this. I know the world say, well, 533 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: I just say that out of anger. I don't believe 534 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: you speak out of anger, because I am a firm believer. 535 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: Whatever you, however you feel, that's what you speak. 536 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: You don't speak out what they say. A drunken mind 537 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: speaks a sober. 538 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: Heart, yes, yes. And so when he said that. I said, Oh, 539 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: that's how he feel about me. That was it right there? 540 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I'm gonna pray for your mom because yeah, yeah, 541 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: God bless her because ain't something ain't right, ain't no 542 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: way hmm. And for her to be getting into an 543 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: altercation with him and getting beat on at this age. 544 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I was saying. I said, so 545 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: he's still right, and I do remember her say I 546 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: can handle him. 547 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: I said, okay, yeah, I'm gonna keep her in my 548 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: prayers because that ain't that ain't right? 549 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: Man? 550 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: What what a life? 551 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: Man? Before we wrap it up, that's about it. I just, 552 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: I just, I just give all the praise and honor 553 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: to God. Yeah, God was always with you because I 554 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: didn't do none of this, because if it was meant 555 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: for me, a few a few people would have been dead. 556 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: I probably been in somebody's jail, in the ground, or 557 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: in the ground myself, you know. So I just, I just, 558 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: I do, I truly truly bless God for the change. 559 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: And one thing I want to say about change, you 560 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: have to want to change. I wanted to change, Yeah, 561 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: because all that anger and everything. That was the reason 562 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: why I had to go to surgery because I woke 563 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 2: up one day and I had a tumor hanging out 564 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: on my neck, hanging out on my neck, hanging out 565 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 2: on my neck, hanging out on my hanging out on 566 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: my k what just literally I went to sleep flying 567 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: walk up with a hanging out the side of my 568 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: neck while I couldn't not move, I could not drink. 569 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: That anger was festering inside. 570 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: Of Yes, yes it was, Yes, it was. It became 571 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: bittering it, that's real. It became rage and all that stuff. 572 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 2: And so I believe God allowed that to happen to 573 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: lay me on my back so I won't do nothing crazy. 574 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, nah, you know, I'd be telling you when certain 575 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: things be happening. I said, Yo, that's God. God gotta 576 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: sit you down. 577 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and he had to. 578 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he would give you so many chances until yes, 579 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: he had to. 580 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you now, you that was that twenty two. 581 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: I was on the warp when he got he got 582 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: in jail. When I was nineteen, I was on the 583 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: war path. I was like, he yo, that yeah, that's 584 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: all I kept hearing. Oh he yo, die you know, 585 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: And so God like I got a better plan for you. 586 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to lay you on your back, 587 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: little mama. 588 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd be telling people don't force guy's hand man. Yes, 589 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: because I was a situation. God got his lip back. 590 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: I said, you got it, I'm done, hands up, I surrender. Yes, 591 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: That's how I know it's real. When you said I surrender, 592 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: you got a big dog. 593 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: I'm good. 594 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: No, seriously, because when yeah, like when God get involved. 595 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: Oh man, you better hope you make it. 596 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah for real, because when God get in, it can't 597 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: nobody pray you all love it? Oh nobody, Nobody do 598 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: nothing when God get in. 599 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're here now. 600 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 601 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: So what are some advice you would give to others 602 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: who are currently on a healing journey after experiencing abuse. 603 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: First thing I will tell them is to go seek therapy. Yeah, 604 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm a great advocate. I'm the biggest advocate of therapy. 605 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: Go talk to someone, talk about if it's okay to 606 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: talk about it, because it's your story, is your truth. 607 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Can't nobody tell you nothing more or nothing less. Talk 608 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: about it. Get it out of your spirit, get it 609 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: out of your soul, get it out of your body. 610 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: You know, that's why a lot of people so tensed 611 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: up because they got so much anger in them. You know, 612 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: get it out of you, get it out of you. 613 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: So when you get it, when you are able to 614 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: get it out there, you can receive the goodness that's 615 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: coming behind it. So what's coming behind pain? Peace? What's 616 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: coming behind biterness, blessings? What's coming behind all that anger? 617 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: You know, it's just just the glory of just being 618 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 2: able to just live another day. So the first thing 619 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: I will tell people, don't get some therapy, honey. And 620 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 2: if you can't afford it, or you don't have an insurance, 621 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 2: find someone that you trust, that you know they got 622 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: your back, that you know that whatever you tell them 623 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: you when I hear it again, I tell them all 624 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: I need you to do is be a ear. Yeah. 625 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: And I want to tell people cry it out. But 626 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: I was saw. I was so hard. I didn't know 627 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: how to cry. I did not know how to cry. Yeah, well, 628 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: you probably go the funerals and then I cry. 629 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: I just sit there like, well, you probably stop crying 630 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: at the age of five. 631 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: I probably did because I didn't know how. Yeah. So 632 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: I tell people, get it out of you and cry 633 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 2: it out. If you need a cuss, cuss, yeah, hit 634 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 2: some walls, like, get it out of you. That's the 635 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: biggest thing is to get it out. So so when 636 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: you get it out, then you have room for the growth. 637 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: You have room for your you know, for your peace, 638 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 2: you have room for your healing. Alliday. Yeah, yeah, it 639 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: don't your joy, your happiness, none of that. It don't 640 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: have no room, you know. So talk to someone. And 641 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: if you talk to someone like a third perst psychiatrist 642 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: and they and they say, well, hey, can we try 643 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 2: this for you? Try the medicine. Yeah. Yeah. The only 644 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 2: thing it can do is help you or it don't. 645 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: That's all. If it don't help, then it just don't help, 646 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: you know. But if it helped, keep it going. Don't 647 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: be letting all these people in your ear telling you this, 648 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: just telling you that here's some therapy. If you need medicine, 649 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: get's some medicine. And it's okay. It is okay. And 650 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: that's what we don't hear a lot, but it is. 651 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 2: It is okay. It's okay to be angry, it's okay 652 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: to be mad, it's frustrated, it's okay, it's okay. First 653 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: of all, you have to know that God give us 654 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: these emotions. He give us these emotions so we can 655 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: have an exit plan. So all of our emotions supposed 656 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 2: to exit all of us, so we can get some 657 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: good stuff in there. So it's okay. That's all I 658 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: want to say, is it's okay. Nobody never talk. It's 659 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 2: okay that you're mad. It's okay that you're angry about that. 660 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: I was always told you don't just leave it alone. No, 661 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 2: it's okay to be mad. It's okay. You know. 662 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: I was speaking to a guest before earlier when I 663 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: was recording, and one of my favorite things she told 664 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: me is God gave you that pain because he knew 665 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: he can trust you with it. 666 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: That's a word. Baby. Yeah. 667 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: When she said that, oh man, I teared up. I said, 668 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: that is it right there? 669 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: Look, I don't know. She probably been in one of 670 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: my sessions because I told I told a couple of 671 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 2: women there. I said, I had a conversation with God. 672 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: That's when I was asking him what is happening. He said, well, 673 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: I knew that I can trust you with that. I said, 674 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 2: wait a minute, Yes, for God to say that he 675 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: can trust you, that's a big deal. That's a big deal. 676 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: I said that. Tell her, tell her, Look, we're gonna 677 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 2: have to look, we want to do a tag team thing. Yeah. 678 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: No, facts fast for God. 679 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: To say that he trusts you with the because he 680 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: know he had a purpose for it, but he trusts 681 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 2: you with it because everybody can't walk in your shoe. 682 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: Everybody can't walk, baby, they can't even put the shoes on. 683 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: Say nine, I'm telling you. Yeah. And I had to 684 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 2: think because I never really thought about that. But I 685 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: was talking to a younger lady and she was like, hell, 686 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 2: you ever a thought about I said, yeah, I thought 687 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: about suicide at the times. I even tried it a 688 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: few times. Yeah. But then when I realized that I'm 689 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: still here. 690 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, Yeah, I feel like this has been 691 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite episodes. Man, thank you, I need 692 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: know seriously. I feel like you know, obviously thank you 693 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: for sharing your story, but your journey of healing after 694 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: surviving the amount of abuse that you have endured is 695 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,839 Speaker 1: such a powerful testament to human resilience. So I hope 696 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: that your experience inspired empathy and empower others facing similar 697 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: challenges to seek killing and find confidence in knowing that 698 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: they are not along they not. Yeah, So thank you 699 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate you to the listeners. If you 700 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: have any questions coming, some concerns, I know we was 701 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,439 Speaker 1: keycking and laughing along. 702 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it too. If we keep 703 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 2: on being so serious, I'm gonna be my girls right right, It's. 704 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: Okay, you right, don't tell you gotta laugh through it, y'all. 705 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: You got to got to laugh to keep crying. 706 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: Yes, If y'all have any questions coming or concerns, please 707 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: make sure to reach out to me and hello at 708 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: the PSG podcast dot com. 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