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Speaker 7: It is Thursday, October thirtieth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 7: episode number sixty nine. Welcome to the Lay's edition of

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Speaker 7: Today we continue our preparation for Arizona Arizona versus.

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Speaker 2: Dallas that will happen on Monday night.

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Speaker 7: Today we're gonna focus in on the Arizona defense against

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys offense.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But today I want to do what's wrong? Why are

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Speaker 2: you laughing? My man here to my left him in

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Speaker 2: this chair.

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Speaker 5: You cannot get comfortable in this chair.

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Speaker 8: It must be the cop of or something man something

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Speaker 8: going on and then being trying to fit me in

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Speaker 8: the bike.

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Speaker 3: I laugh every time. I laugh every time I go

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Speaker 3: from being far left to like, oh you know what

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Speaker 3: did I come back?

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Speaker 7: He's moving around and Beam's like what He's trying to

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Speaker 7: get the camera, trying to get the camera, trying to

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Speaker 7: get the camera.

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Speaker 8: Because I'm trying to follow the rules and do the

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Speaker 8: turnaround and look at the camera thing.

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Speaker 9: We'll settle in about the three minutes the next show

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Speaker 9: before hours, and that's a one man show, and then

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Speaker 9: we jump in here for people. He got to readjust

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Speaker 9: all the camera.

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Speaker 6: We just scream at each other four hours.

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Speaker 2: That's a week basically.

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Speaker 6: Battery Yeah, ugiy Caro on and such.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you.

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Speaker 5: I like when you guys said the word fuss.

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Speaker 3: Huh, when you're fussing, When you're fussing, we're fussing each

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Speaker 3: other fussing, Caroline, yeahs, I've never heard.

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Speaker 2: You're a Southern guy.

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Speaker 10: You never heard fussing, even though I've heard of.

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Speaker 5: I grew up in Dallas, bro, have you heard. I

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Speaker 5: never know it's putting up.

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Speaker 6: Have you heard that putting up a fuss?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I've never heard. That was fuss No, Yeah, fussing

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Speaker 3: is hilarious.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's not fussy buss fussy.

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Speaker 6: What's your favorite word?

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Speaker 1: Bro?

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Speaker 8: Like you know dirty mackinscluding hoghland, rat, gamble?

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Speaker 6: What's your favorite suck? Sometimes? Working with you since the

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Speaker 6: kid pardon me, I said, I said, well you okay, So.

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Speaker 3: Dirty macot is pretty funny. When I learned that from you,

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Speaker 3: I was I didn't know what.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys break? Would dreams come true?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Teaching the world.

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Speaker 7: All right, let's let's talk about America's teacher. Let's talk

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Speaker 7: about Trayvon Diggs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: We did not talk about him earlier in the week,

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Speaker 7: but Jerry had some comments, uh, and I thought they

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Speaker 7: were interesting, and I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 7: about the cornerback position, but I want to start first

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Speaker 7: with Trayvon Diggs. He was quote from Jerry said, Dick's

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Speaker 7: biggest problem is he's injured and it's not the same

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Speaker 7: knee that he's been doing his rehab with, so that's

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Speaker 7: his number one challenge. Unfortunately, he's got a handful of

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Speaker 7: challenges here that are physically related, and that's why he

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Speaker 7: has the status he's got today.

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Speaker 2: What do we know?

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Speaker 7: I guess at this point about that knee injury, not

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Speaker 5: You're gonna look at me for this.

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Speaker 8: On a scale of one to ten, how much do

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Speaker 8: y'all y'all think that this is made up? Because one

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Speaker 8: time Jerry's like, I just don't think he's in shaved

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Speaker 8: enough to play football, like you know. So I'm just wondering,

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Speaker 3: I I you know what, I've kind of went out

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Speaker 3: of sight, out of mind on this one. Here and

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Speaker 3: no and no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, don't

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Speaker 5: Don't say that pain here. No no, but don't say

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Speaker 5: it's not hurt.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, he's not here, he says, not here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sorry, my bad, my bad is not here.

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Speaker 6: No no, no, no, I see.

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Speaker 5: My sixty one year ears heard like.

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Speaker 6: Oh I was that's my name. He is not here.

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Speaker 8: So I think the right thing for the Cowboys do

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Speaker 8: is to move forward as if he's not.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be real honest with everybody that I

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Speaker 3: love on this table here. I don't have an answer

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Speaker 3: I've kind of like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to focus on the guys that are here, and

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Speaker 3: I know we have to do a show and it's important.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, I did hear that it was the

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Speaker 3: other knee. I I can confirm that, And I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's lying about that. I shouldn't use the word lie.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's tell the I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: but I I do. I do know that there's an

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm that's that's that's what I'm right now,

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Speaker 3: so that that's all kind of news to me. And

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Speaker 3: but I've kind of in my mind said, Okay, I've

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Speaker 5: But uh, I'll try and run that down.

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Speaker 7: No, that's all good, but focusing because here's the deal.

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Speaker 7: I think you're in the same boat as most everybody.

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Speaker 7: I think everybody's kind of looking around scratching your heads, like, man,

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Speaker 7: this all just seems like it just seems weird.

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Speaker 2: It just seems like there's a lot of what's going on.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of.

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Speaker 7: No one really knows. But but but moving on to

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Speaker 7: that they happen.

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Speaker 9: Since you were teaching words and sayings.

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Speaker 10: Cat right cat, yes, hat like a top trap cat.

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Speaker 6: In the corner like a like a cat trappling.

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Speaker 9: Like huh, something suspicious going on here?

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, that's like that's.

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Speaker 8: A clever tricky something's going on.

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Speaker 2: Got it, got it? Got it? I know you know

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Speaker 2: you don't tripping man.

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Speaker 8: You know I can't speak it and understand it when

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Speaker 8: they're talking fans, but I know vocabulary, Hamby telling I

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Speaker 5: There's a lot. There's a lot going on here.

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Speaker 8: One time say this off air one time when people

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Speaker 8: leave you on Rid, there's some serious stuff. Though everybody

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Speaker 8: I asked about it, I get left on Rid about it.

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Speaker 8: So that made me feel like it ain't my dad

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Speaker 7: It just the problem I think the problem is, and

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Speaker 7: I shouldn't, it's not even a problem.

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Speaker 2: But I think the reason why.

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Speaker 7: This happened is because of the nature with which we

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Speaker 7: bring suspicion like what uh, what happened? And knew there

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Speaker 7: was no Okay, here's what happened. So then it's left

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Speaker 7: And this is my biggest problem with sports media. If

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Speaker 7: I think that's kind of just that the whole circumstance

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Speaker 7: this cloud of suspicion that who knows what's really happened

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Speaker 7: because nobody's really there is no real report that says

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Speaker 9: There are a lot of times that if something happens,

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Speaker 9: and here talks about it. That doesn't necessarily mean that

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Speaker 10: To be careful with.

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Speaker 9: But this is one of those things that I've literally

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Speaker 9: Heard about this whole situation, which is it's so weird.

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Speaker 2: We'll be doing a documentary on it in years.

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Speaker 5: There you go, I don't think you will do a

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Speaker 2: No, we've already done a Trayvon Diggs documentary.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think you'll do a documentary on this one.

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Speaker 6: It ain't gonna be cute to the public, you know, think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we think we've told some not so cute stories before.

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Speaker 6: I just think any times somebody get hurt at their.

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Speaker 2: House, I'm not I'm not speculating on anything. I don't

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Speaker 7: I don't think I don't think that's fair ever to

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Speaker 7: just start throwing us out there, because you know, people

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Speaker 7: you know what, they're running with it and they're saying

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Speaker 7: it is.

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Speaker 6: Just yes, look, yeah, I don't believe in that, but

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think we should do that. I don't

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Speaker 2: think we should do that. Now. Here's what I did

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Speaker 2: want to talk about, though.

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Speaker 7: I understand obviously Treyvond's over here, like let's just put

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Speaker 7: cornerbacks they still have available to them. Yeah, what do

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Speaker 7: you think is the best group Like, what's the best

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Speaker 7: threesome you can put out there?

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Speaker 2: Because we've seen some different groupings that they put out there.

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Speaker 2: They had tra Queezy play this last week quite a bit.

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Speaker 7: What what do you think is the best grouping that

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Speaker 2: The guys that are fag.

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Speaker 8: Our honest answer is there's no way to know. Nobody,

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Speaker 8: there's no clue for us to possibly know. Because as

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Speaker 10: And how much were is going to get?

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Speaker 7: brought to you by blockchain dot com. All right, let's

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Speaker 7: talk about the Arizona defense.

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Speaker 2: Brian, what you got?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Real quick?

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Speaker 3: If I could, I went back and looked at my

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Speaker 3: Kalin Carson notes. We're talking about him, just real quick,

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Speaker 3: if I could. Uh, he played it as a field corner.

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Speaker 3: So he played There's we've talked about this before, boundary

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Speaker 3: corner in field corner. So field corner would be a

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Speaker 3: guy that carries he's opposite of like when we talked

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Speaker 3: with if the balls on the right hash, that would

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Speaker 3: be the boundary side he has, the opposite side, he

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Speaker 3: has the large side of the field. I saw the

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Speaker 3: quick feet. I saw he's able to stay connected with

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Speaker 3: the receiver, the fluid hips, bility to turn, seeing routes develop,

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Speaker 3: and then able to trigger on the ball, especially good

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Speaker 3: when it comes to reading screens and those inbreaking routes.

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Speaker 3: I kind of saw a guy that can carry routes

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Speaker 3: inside to and you know, there was some times where

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Speaker 3: maybe his his length.

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Speaker 5: I thought his length and his demeanor were very good

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Speaker 5: for the position.

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Speaker 3: And that's just kind of a cliff notes version of

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Speaker 3: what I what I saw with this guy. But I

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Speaker 3: was thought that one of the lines I said was

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Speaker 3: very competitive and fiery in the way he plays. That's

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Speaker 3: that's the guy they need out there right now. That

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Speaker 3: they need somebody out there that is has got that

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Speaker 3: kind of demeanor to go out there and play. And

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Speaker 3: and you know, and Votch asked about, oh well, or

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Speaker 3: Derek asked about, oh would you play him inside or outside? Well,

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's a field corner that just tells

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Speaker 3: you that he can. The thing I worry about, though,

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Speaker 3: is his confidence. I said it earlier, So that's but

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Speaker 3: that's what the notes were from my scouting notes of

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Speaker 3: canleing cars. Okay, when you start to talk about this defense, fotch,

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Speaker 3: this defense is interesting in a couple of different ways.

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Speaker 3: It's another one of those odd front defenses that you

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Speaker 3: play with three down linemen. I think there's some things

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Speaker 3: that they try and do to you coverage wise, to

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Speaker 3: maybe mix you up. Play a lot of cover four.

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Speaker 3: And for Jerry Madaline, as I'm gonna do, Jem, go

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Speaker 3: and explain it to you, Cover four is you take

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Speaker 3: quarters of the field. Is what you want to do.

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Speaker 3: So if you see a lot of cover four, that

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Speaker 3: means that they're trying to keep everything really in front

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Speaker 3: of them. So you get your two corners, your two safeties.

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Speaker 3: Everything is just think of quarters of the field.

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Speaker 16: That's how they play four guys deep.

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Speaker 3: So how do you attack this stuff? How do you

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Speaker 3: attack this there's pockets where you could do even the

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Speaker 3: underneath because you got the linebackers, you got a linebacker

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Speaker 3: that takes the middle, and you got the two outside linebackers.

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Speaker 3: They kind of the kind of play a little bit wider.

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Speaker 3: But there's pockets when you've got corners and safeties going deep,

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Speaker 3: and then you've got that line that underneath to play.

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Speaker 5: The short stuff. There's kind of those intermediate.

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Speaker 3: Spaces and stuff like that, So Dallas could probably attack.

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Speaker 3: Their teams have done a good job against Arizona kind

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Speaker 3: of attacking that areas. But they've also though what the

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Speaker 3: problems that teams have had when you play cover four

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Speaker 3: is double moves. So all of a sudden you get

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Speaker 3: guys playing at a little bit of depth, and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden it's the out bite now up and

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Speaker 3: then you've got plays down the field. So the things

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Speaker 3: that Dallas can do with their their they could do

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Speaker 3: stuff with their tied end and that intermediate they can

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Speaker 3: run the inbreaking routes to kind of handle that. We

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Speaker 3: could also see some vertical routes off some double moves,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you get the time. But that's the

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Speaker 3: thing with Arizona. I'm sure Vatch is about to tell

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Speaker 3: you you're going to see some pass rush here from

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Speaker 3: Arizona with a couple of different guys that we very

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Speaker 3: very familiar with.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Brian, you know last week the Broncos kind of

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Speaker 8: rolled out there guys and their guys are are there guys?

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Speaker 8: They lined up our front three guys and their two

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Speaker 8: linebacks to the outside, and they didn't really move those

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Speaker 8: dudes around too much. What the Carlinals do is they'll

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Speaker 8: put a whole bunch of different people in there. So

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Speaker 8: they got eight rushes and they kind of rotate them all,

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Speaker 8: and they'll change up the front so they're not just

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Speaker 8: in a three four. They'll line up in a two

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Speaker 8: guys in the middle, two linebackers standing on the outside,

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Speaker 8: and one mic. Sometimes they'll load up the middle b gaps,

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Speaker 8: you know, load up the a's, and then they'll put

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Speaker 8: two rushers here. Sometimes they look real, real goofy where

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Speaker 8: they have one small dude just lined up over the center,

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Speaker 8: two guys wide, and nobody really behind them. So I

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Speaker 8: think it's interesting. You can kind of chess game it up.

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Speaker 8: We've seen the Cowboys run on third down, like third

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Speaker 8: and loan, like just to do it, just to see

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Speaker 8: what happens. I think if Arizona rolls out here trying

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Speaker 8: to get pretty, trying to get cute and lovely with

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Speaker 8: maybe somebody small as like Dante Sills. Yeah he about

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Speaker 8: two ninety or something like that, but he plays on

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Speaker 8: the interior for the most part. I've seen plays where

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Speaker 8: he's like just a loan, eight gap player, two outside guys,

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Speaker 8: and one linebacker. If I'm the Cowboys, it's third and eight,

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Speaker 8: I'm just gonna run at that and whatever I get,

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Speaker 8: I'll just go for it on four for three because

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Speaker 8: I don't want to punt.

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Speaker 2: You might get eight, you might get eight, you.

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Speaker 6: Might, you might.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. You just never know what's

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Speaker 8: gonna happen. But all of their past, I mean, there's

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Speaker 8: some there's some some big guys in the middle that

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Speaker 8: we should be aware of. Dalvin Tomlinson big character, always been.

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Speaker 5: A more giant guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not really.

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Speaker 8: But he's not really gonna pass rush you very much

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Speaker 8: on past rushing downs, he's leaving. Kalaeis Campbell has sacks,

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Speaker 8: but he's in there on run downs.

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Speaker 7: For the most It's like they got the guys that

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Speaker 7: five years ago, ten years ago would have been like

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Speaker 7: they got a big time defensive line for show for show,

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Speaker 7: but they got kalay Campbellton might keep being in an

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Speaker 7: NFL for.

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Speaker 8: He bout twenty one years in, I believe, honestly, But

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Speaker 8: lucky for the still by the way, he still can't play.

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Speaker 8: He got like three sacks or something, so he will

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Speaker 8: be a top Saxon for us. But you know, as

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Speaker 8: far as offensive line goes, I think as long as

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Speaker 8: they're not slanting fronts, stunting and things of that nature

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Speaker 8: like these speed guys, I don't I think it's hard

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Speaker 8: to just say I'm just gonna bull rush the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: and win and we just gonna knock on some woods somewhere.

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Speaker 8: If it's a game where BB can play, I feel

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Speaker 8: real good about the interior, but there are gonna be

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Speaker 8: questions about the outside. I don't think Tyler Goidon did

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Speaker 8: a horrible job last week. And Tyler Guidon versus Benito's

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Speaker 8: a dude.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: Benito's a guy, you know, and Tyler Goidon particularly struggles

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Speaker 8: against guys Benito', Brian Burns, guys like that. But if

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Speaker 8: we just talk about regular just good dudes, I feel

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Speaker 8: good about those matchups. Terren Steell, we probably got to

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Speaker 8: have a longer conversation about but that's where we're gonna

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Speaker 8: get gonna get hit there. So their past rushers, Baron Browning,

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Speaker 8: Josh Sweat, they're more of the quicker guys ben to

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Speaker 8: your guys, but they can rush power guys. Jordan Birch,

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Speaker 8: who is a three tech in college, played at Oregon.

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Speaker 8: They stand him up and rush him on the edge,

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Speaker 8: but he is very powerful and he can't move a

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Speaker 8: little bit, but he's a backup. And Xavn Collins first

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Speaker 8: round pick, former former first round pick. He was supposed

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Speaker 8: to be like an edge linebacker, hybrid time, you know,

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Speaker 8: you know, type of guy linebacker. Didn't worry, you know,

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Speaker 8: it did work out for him. But now he's just

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Speaker 8: a pass rushing dude. Something that's interesting. They got a

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Speaker 8: guy Mac Wilson is just kind of hanging around in

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Speaker 8: the middle. He gets he gets blitched a bunch pressure

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Speaker 8: and sacks also, So they got a bunch of guys

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Speaker 8: up front that can make it weird for you. I

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Speaker 8: didn't see them stunt a whole bunch. They rushed for

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Speaker 8: and just kind of running like that. I think the

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Speaker 8: Cowboys will be fine. It just depends on the kind

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Speaker 8: of day Terran Steels gonna be had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they really want to just rush for if they can.

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Speaker 3: That's their idea. That's the best way for play. Like

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Speaker 3: I say, you're gonna get Vox was talking about You're

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Speaker 3: gonna get you're gonna get like found twenty two percent.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: The rest of it's gonna be zoned tight. Window throws

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Speaker 3: are right around twenty percent. I mean, this secondary, they've

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Speaker 3: they've allowed eight touchdowns, four interceptions, They've knocked down thirty

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Speaker 3: five passes. The secondary has got some guys. When I say,

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Speaker 3: and we've talked about Will Johnson, a bunch out of Michigan,

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Speaker 3: the rookie corner. There was some thought about him. If

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Speaker 3: we all remember go back to our draft shows here

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Speaker 3: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. He was always the guy

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Speaker 3: what does he run? What does he run?

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Speaker 5: How fast? We all had questions. They never ever ever

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Speaker 5: got a time on him.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Dallas, he was a guy that that

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys were kind of talking about that, oh maybe.

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Speaker 5: That's this Will Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Will Johnson's playing well for the Arizona Cardinals, and he

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Speaker 3: is he is a he is a quality corner here.

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Speaker 3: Uh you know, Mac Melton plays on the other side.

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel like though this is a group

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Speaker 3: that that maybe, like I say, you have to be

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Speaker 3: a little bit careful. It's it's a little bit more

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Speaker 3: difficult to find the guy on this group that you

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Speaker 3: would attack I think that you mentioned Uh, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you talked about Jalen Thompson. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: played some of the nickel. He lines up at safety,

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Speaker 3: Buddha Bakers back there. They've got some kind of some

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Speaker 3: guys that are that. Buddha Baker is kind of a

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Speaker 3: turnover guy. You got to be alert about running him.

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Speaker 3: He's a punch the ball loose guy. He's a rip

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Speaker 3: the ball guy. He's an interception guy if you overthrow stuff.

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Speaker 3: But they're gonna play, like I said, they're gonna play

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Speaker 3: a lot that cover four. They're gonna try and keep

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Speaker 3: things in front of him and then rally and tackle

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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 8: Johnson is a guy, Brian, but I don't think of

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Speaker 8: him as like a Pats Tan.

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Speaker 6: He didn't want them to do J. C. Horn. But

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Speaker 6: he is playing well.

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Speaker 8: He's playing well per what we what we kind of

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Speaker 8: thought of him or whatnot. But uh, you know, when

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Speaker 8: we come in here, Brian and we break down Cowboys

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Speaker 8: offense on Thursdays, it's a much different vibe and how

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Speaker 8: I talk on Wednesdays. Wednesdays, I'd be happy to get anything, Brian.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, they got Will Johnson. But we got Ceedee

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Speaker 8: Lamb and George Pickens. If they want to decide to

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Speaker 8: run some Cover four against Lamb and George Pickens to

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Speaker 8: try to take the deep ball away into To their credit,

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Speaker 8: they don't give up a bunch of deep passes, but

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Speaker 8: we'll throw it intermediate and go be Yet guys, we've

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Speaker 8: learned Pickings is a uh is a a yat guy.

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Speaker 8: Pittsburgh just didn't didn't use him in that way what

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Speaker 8: cowboys will. And Ceedee Lamb is notorious as a yet guy.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't even hate if you know, turping got involved

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Speaker 8: crossing the field you were when you were mentioning pockets earlier.

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Speaker 8: There's this term that we call that we call clearing.

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Speaker 8: Once you clear the linebacker, there's a pocket, but if

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Speaker 8: you keep running, there's another linebacker there. But if you

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Speaker 8: clear that linebacker, there's another pocket in between those those pockets, crossers,

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Speaker 8: things of that nature, spot rafts. Sitting down in those zones,

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Speaker 8: I think you will definitely be able to whoop up

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Speaker 8: on Arizona.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing think about too.

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Speaker 7: When you're playing Cover four, that means you've got four

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Speaker 7: guys deep, which means you only got three underneath most times,

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Speaker 7: which means there are more there's more room.

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Speaker 2: For you to operate with it.

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Speaker 7: And those three that are underneath typically are not your

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Speaker 7: greatest cover guys. They're typically linebacker types, so you do

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Speaker 7: have a little bit more room to work with underneath.

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Speaker 7: And if you can get those guys like as you said,

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Speaker 7: those crossing routes where you get them on the run,

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Speaker 7: now they have an opportunity to really make something after

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Speaker 7: the after the catching and get something.

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Speaker 2: With it real quick.

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Speaker 7: I did want to you said, it's a longer conversation

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Speaker 7: we got to have about Terrence Steele. Let's have that

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Speaker 7: conversation at this point. Where are you with Terrence Steele?

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Speaker 7: Do you feel like it's at a point where this

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Speaker 7: is holding you back so much where you got to

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Speaker 7: make a move or do you feel like, hey man,

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Speaker 7: we just know what we know of him. He's gonna

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Speaker 7: have some ups and that's what I feel like.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I beat up.

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Speaker 2: You know what it reminds me of Brian.

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Speaker 7: You'll remember this Doug Free, Like I don't think Doug

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Speaker 7: Free was a horrible right tackle, but it was an

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Speaker 7: easy target, like he was gonna have some moments in

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Speaker 7: every game where you're like, it wasn't great, but he

696
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Speaker 7: wasn't a horrible tackle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Is it the same thing here with with Terren Steele

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Speaker 7: or is it one situation where no, he is, he's

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Speaker 7: pretty bad and they're gonna have to find I just

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Speaker 7: feel like.

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Speaker 5: That Nate Nate Thomas is a better player overall.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like that when you start to talk

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Speaker 3: about the when you look at the past protection, you

705
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Speaker 3: look at the run block and stuff, and and and

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Speaker 3: Steele has had his moments where he's worked well with

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Speaker 3: Booker and they've been able to get movement and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 5: I just kind of.

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Speaker 3: Feel like, though, if you just had that edge just

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Speaker 3: a little bit stronger, if you put two big guys

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you got Booker over there,

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Speaker 3: you got Thomas over there, and then you got say

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Speaker 3: span Ford standing over there, that's just a different look

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Speaker 3: that teams have to deal with. I I know, I

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Speaker 3: guess it's I guess I'm in that mode where I

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Speaker 3: know what Steele is. I'm really interested to see what

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Speaker 3: Nate Thomas is. That's That's where I'm at right now

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 8: You know what, Brian, what it is is we get

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Speaker 8: paid the Big Book to hyper focus.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, We not just washing letters

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Speaker 6: Brian Brothers.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. We on the fries, you

725
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Speaker 8: know what I mean. We zero in on every single

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Speaker 8: thing that's that's going on here. If we were some

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Speaker 8: national media show, we probably wouldn't even talk about Terrence

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Speaker 8: Steele in real life, how offensive line is in the league.

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Speaker 8: Not a whole bunch of people got offensive lineman that

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Speaker 8: they could be proud of.

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Speaker 6: It's just that what we five of them, five of them.

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Speaker 8: It's just that when we come on this show, we

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Speaker 8: have to talk about something and we have to hyper

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Speaker 8: focus on the guys that that you know, that.

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Speaker 6: Are out there.

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Speaker 8: Uh, Terrence Steele, he ain't playing perfect, but but you know,

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Speaker 8: we are just coming off games where like connor Ley

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Speaker 8: is like giving up sacks to Cowboys pass rush that

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Speaker 8: that never happens. Every single week, we're you know, breaking

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Speaker 8: down some new guys, some right tackle that isn't all

741
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Speaker 8: that good this week. Johonna Williams out there right tackle.

742
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Speaker 8: I would rather have Terren Steele than John Wiggins for sure.

743
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Speaker 8: But I do think if we're breaking down the types

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Speaker 8: of guys that Terrence kind of has issues with like

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Speaker 8: these power guys that are just kind of run right

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Speaker 8: through Arizona.

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Speaker 6: Got some guys.

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Speaker 8: So if I had to, you know, if this was

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Speaker 8: a show where we could just give hot takes, quick takes,

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Speaker 8: Oh cowboys, go out there, beat the hell of Arizona

751
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Speaker 8: Cardinals like a's it and just and that's a three

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Speaker 8: minute show. But just if we could find any little

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Speaker 8: advantage for the Cardinals, I would say, if they're looking

754
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Speaker 8: for somebody, they're not gonna look to win versus Tyler

755
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Speaker 8: Smith or a book or if Bbie you know, comes back,

756
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Speaker 8: They're not gonna bull arrest those guys. But if I'm Arizona,

757
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Speaker 8: if I'm looking for an advantage, I would look for

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Speaker 8: Terrence Steele More. I think in the run Game, Terrance

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Speaker 8: Steel ain't ain't all that horrible. Terrece Steel does does

760
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Speaker 8: do some things not perfect as we want it, you know,

761
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Speaker 8: but Terren Steel's solid in the run game. You know,

762
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Speaker 8: he gives up whatever whatever. But if we just had

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Speaker 8: to look at something, it'll be Terrence as the one

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Speaker 8: guy that I would look for.

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Speaker 9: The whoop mart And I think Nate Thomas catches your

766
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Speaker 9: attention because he's something new, He's something newer, like a

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Speaker 9: shinier product out there.

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Speaker 5: But I'm hoping better. That's and I told it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you watch him, and that's the thing. It's

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Speaker 9: you know already what you've got in Terrence Steell, but

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Speaker 9: when Nate Thomas, you have that expectation in your head

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Speaker 9: of what he can possibly be. But at the same time,

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Speaker 9: the grass isn't always greener on the other side, as

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Speaker 9: some poets may say. But with him, I'm curious to

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Speaker 9: see him more because of that of the.

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Speaker 10: What do you call it, just the.

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Speaker 9: The interest in trying to find out what does he

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Speaker 9: actually looks like?

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Speaker 4: Curiosity curiosity, but curiosity killed the cat, say, But honestly, honestly,

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Speaker 4: it just it intrigues me more.

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Speaker 9: But at the same time, I truly don't know how

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Speaker 9: much different he would actually be in expecting to give

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Speaker 9: you something like I think other teams would attack Nate

784
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Speaker 9: Thomas as well.

785
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Speaker 10: Nate he would give up someplace.

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Speaker 6: Too, different though, because he's strong, so yeah, in.

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Speaker 10: A different kind of way.

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Speaker 9: But still it's gonna happen from the time I think

789
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Speaker 9: turns Still, yes, he's not perfect, but also he deserves

790
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Speaker 9: a lot of credit for what he has.

791
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Speaker 10: Done, how long he's been able to stay on the team.

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Speaker 9: Actually, and looking back the way that he started, all

793
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Speaker 9: the criticism that he got from everybody, including myself, I

794
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Speaker 9: did not understand why McCarthy took that decision, but he

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Speaker 9: went on with.

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Speaker 6: It, and either I don't know why the hell he did.

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Speaker 10: It either, but he stay here for a while.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I worry more about Terrence Steele in

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Speaker 7: games where and it's gonna sound weird, but follow me,

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Speaker 7: I worry more about him in games where the defensive

801
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Speaker 7: tackles are getting pushed in the middle, because Dak can

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Speaker 7: handle the two or three times a game when Terrence

803
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Speaker 7: gets beat and somebody gets to him, Dak will get

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Speaker 7: rid of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Dak will be fine.

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Speaker 7: The problem is when, as we've seen in the games

807
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Speaker 7: where it has been a problem, you've got a lot

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Speaker 7: of pressure coming up the middle, and now Dak can't

809
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Speaker 7: step up, he can't evade that guy, and now.

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Speaker 2: It's just a jail break.

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Speaker 7: Because the defensive tackles in his inside defensive ends coming

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Speaker 7: around the outside, he has nowhere to go. That's what

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Speaker 7: creates the problem. So I think I think it's more

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Speaker 7: about the matchup, and it's not even just Terrence Still's matchup,

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Speaker 7: it's what's happening in the middle.

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Speaker 2: I think that that worries me more about what I.

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Speaker 7: Think is going to be the day that Terrence Still

818
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Speaker 18: and Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders.

886
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: Back to the.

887
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 10: Break at n T Connection changes everything.

888
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 7: Welcome Back, when you say Mississippi, that's why I know

889
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 7: you really from Missippi.

890
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 6: Mississippi.

891
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 7: Pardon me, no, no, no, when you say Mississippi, that

892
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 7: means you really from mississ.

893
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 8: I wonder how much random anster people catch up on,

894
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 8: because I don't know when Beam hit the button to go.

895
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: We've been on. We've been on for a minute, so

896
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: we just you should.

897
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: Say one time when Mickey and I were in that

898
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: f and each other that on camera. It wasn't lie,

899
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: but it was like you could read my lips and

900
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: his lips. I mean, we were going at it.

901
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 6: I was a fan back back in that time.

902
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I thought you was like literally boxing in

903
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 8: the hallway.

904
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: No know, Mickey stood up and I stood up and

905
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 3: robbed Phillips tried to get in the middle.

906
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 5: No, Mickey, nicky credit by the way, he stood up fiery.

907
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: Now don't he stood up, twisted.

908
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 5: Me he started.

909
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: I ain't called him trap robbing.

910
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: Robin Bill Jones were kind of like, oh hey, you know, and.

911
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: Mickey was like you can see that that Illinois Chicago

912
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: guys I.

913
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: Was on squad. I was.

914
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 5: I was like I stood up and he stood up

915
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 5: and like.

916
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 6: What you stand up? Tell me, what made you stand

917
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 6: what you're saying? What did he say to make you?

918
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 5: He stood up?

919
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 7: First?

920
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: I was talking about what did you say to make him?

921
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 5: I thought we're talking about you get seen on camera. Yeah,

922
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 5: that's what we're.

923
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: Talking by the way.

924
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 7: By the way, it happens like there have been a

925
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 7: number of times in our conference where people have had

926
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 7: some moments where they had to they bowed up, and

927
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 7: then later it comes to me like, hey, man, you

928
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 7: realize this happened.

929
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, it happened.

930
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 8: I'd be one fights like for the Draft show or whatever. Right,

931
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 8: Like when I was a fan of the Draft show,

932
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 8: all I saw was Dane and Brian and Kat and

933
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 8: all those guys and and Dave.

934
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: I saw them fight each other.

935
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Right yeah.

936
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 6: So when I first time in my draft, I'm like,

937
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 6: all right.

938
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: Here we go, like what we're doing?

939
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 8: We want to go and boy, we got some I

940
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 8: am friends with all those guys. Shouts out to all

941
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 8: y'all to dress. You know, I saw all my guys

942
00:38:59,520 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 8: that was on this.

943
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: Well, Dave ain't a fighter, like Dave's pretty. Dave's pretty.

944
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 6: He cussed somebody out once. It wouldn't bad because.

945
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: They will fight with words. He'll do it.

946
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: He'll do it, He'll do He'll do it in a

947
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: witty way.

948
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're inseparable or something.

949
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: He'll you somewhere and you're like going insufferable, insufferable, Yeah, inseparable, sufferable.

950
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 5: Hell, you somewhere like that, and you're like what, You're like,

951
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 5: what do you mean? And then I'm like, I went

952
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: to the same damn school as he did.

953
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: And he's like, you use these words and and it

954
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: just stops you in your tracks.

955
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 8: You're just like, I can't wait for somebody to call

956
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 8: me insufferable.

957
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: He did. He called me that. He called me that

958
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: one time.

959
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 6: Damn boy. All right, you'res cussing me on the Draft

960
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: show man?

961
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: Are Temmy Will not?

962
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 10: I guess you don't know him well.

963
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: In time.

964
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 8: Tommy was ringing a D Lincoln Timmy, all right, that's

965
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 8: that happened our liquors, the crazy.

966
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 5: Up or down? Go for it, man. We're trying to talk.

967
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: About Johnny start falling star. Here's some names. Kenny Clark.

968
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: I think two of the last three weeks it's been

969
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: a little bit of a struggle for him. I think

970
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 3: that you know, to me, I know last year he

971
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 3: was hurt if he watched the tape with the toe

972
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: and all that and it wasn't getting it done. Is

973
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Kenny Clark on the ground as much

974
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: as this. I mean, it's he he's not on the

975
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: ground player, and there's been some games where there's some

976
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 3: big runs where he is on the ground and that's uh,

977
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: you know where they've been doubling, the doubling the three

978
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: and and just single blocking him with the one. It

979
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: hasn't been some of the best moments for him as

980
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: a as a player. And I think that's I don't

981
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: know if he's playing through some stuff. He did that

982
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: last year, but it's it's clearly, uh, it's not as

983
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: as good as it was earlier in the year.

984
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 8: I'm not looking for a reason of blame flues Man,

985
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 8: but yeah, falling Clark is not as good now as

986
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 8: he was when he when he first got here. You know,

987
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 8: if we watched Green Bay film, you know he was

988
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 8: a guy that moved around. He was in bigas sometimes

989
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 8: line up why versus tackles. He's getting double team all

990
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 8: the time now, so maybe he's wearing down a little bit.

991
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 6: Who knows what you're reading the comments.

992
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 10: No, I'm reading my own thoughts. I'm like, I don't

993
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 10: like because comfortable.

994
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 9: I feel too comfortable in this show that I'm like, Okay,

995
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 9: I might regret as soon as I walk out the door,

996
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 9: I might regret.

997
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 6: Let me tell you what I like about.

998
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 8: Him, though, Kenny Clarks, as long as as long as

999
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 8: you're keeping it a buck pople be like, yeah, man,

1000
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 8: I'm playing like.

1001
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 7: And I actually love this about players like him when

1002
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 7: he first got here, from that moment till now, after

1003
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 7: every single game, whether he plays well or doesn't, whether

1004
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 7: the team plays well or doesn't, he is there to

1005
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 7: be accountable.

1006
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: He's giving. He will give you honest critiques about himself, absolutely,

1007
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: and I love that. I respect that. And there aren't

1008
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: a lot of you'd be surprised how few guys there

1009
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: are like that.

1010
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 7: They won't talk to where after the game where it's good,

1011
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 7: they're like, hey, everybody want to talk after a game

1012
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 7: is bad.

1013
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 9: But my thing with him, what I what I was

1014
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 9: gonna say. I do think he's still a rising start.

1015
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 9: But my point is that he came in here fresh

1016
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden he became what his

1017
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 9: environment was.

1018
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 10: That was so bad and I.

1019
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 6: Changed the wording my head to that that's hard.

1020
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: I mean it was that was a bar.

1021
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: That's a bar.

1022
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 10: I changed the wording head.

1023
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 6: That's like, we we do super analysis. Sometimes we just

1024
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: missed the easy stuff.

1025
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 8: She said easy stuff like hey, guys, I don't watch

1026
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 8: but but she say the cold and stuff stuff.

1027
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 7: That makes the most sense to like, that's maybe, like

1028
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 7: maybe this is a result of the environment.

1029
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 5: Diamonds, diamonds and do.

1030
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 7: When you say the environment, I want to be clear,

1031
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 7: are you saying because I don't think it's a culture thing.

1032
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 7: You're talking You're not talking more because the players that

1033
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 7: are around him, he finds himself in a situation where

1034
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 7: there's so much going wrong that it's hard for anybody

1035
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 7: to look good in this situation.

1036
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, and this is is and this was not a

1037
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 9: tours the players around This is more of the scheme

1038
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 9: and what's going on.

1039
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 10: And when all leads back to the voice.

1040
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 8: The voice, like the chair right now, like the chair

1041
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 8: being honest is how can every bottle on the defense

1042
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 8: be bad? Like everybody?

1043
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 7: Right?

1044
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: That's that's all worry. Yeah, it's hard to say.

1045
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 7: And by the way, some of them have been good

1046
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 7: players in their career. But all of a sudden, everybody's.

1047
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 8: We could be like back in the day, right the

1048
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 8: defense was solid, but cornerback number two would be bad,

1049
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 8: right right, so just fixed cornerback two.

1050
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 6: Everybody's looking weird.

1051
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 8: Think past rush. We can't tack, we can't die nothing. Please,

1052
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 8: that's a bar. Good on you, that's all right.

1053
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: Next one, Donovan asaku man, he threw the roof.

1054
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 6: He just he just gotta finish what I mean, he said,

1055
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 6: hook him tommy dog. Come on you as a you

1056
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 6: as a say that right? Professional man? Do you do

1057
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 6: you hop around with them?

1058
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 5: Yes?

1059
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 7: I do, but I'm not gonna do it on air

1060
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 7: because we can't play that on there because when he

1061
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 7: writes to the song. But yes, if I am at

1062
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 7: a place, hey man, no no, no, no no, but.

1063
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Give me from out there, you will get up there.

1064
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 9: No I was.

1065
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 6: I love about it like it's just you gotta.

1066
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: And then you just it's just gotta know, you gotta,

1067
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: you gotta give it to him.

1068
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 6: My grades wouldn't good enough to.

1069
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 10: Listen have that stuff in the minic Republic. We don't

1070
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 10: have that. We don't have fraternities or what do they call.

1071
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 6: My grade? My grade my grades weren't good enough to complete.

1072
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 6: But training camp.

1073
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 10: There was a kid, young man.

1074
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, here we go.

1075
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 10: You know, let me tell you. You go off script.

1076
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 6: So I believe I seen him.

1077
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 8: I don't think what sounds silent, show him doing this something,

1078
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 8: catch him a conversation.

1079
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 6: But now I'm snitching, and I don't think.

1080
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 9: There was a young man at training camp that came

1081
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 9: and was introduced to Derek. And he was part of

1082
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 9: the what is it brotherhood? Okay, the fraternity, the fraternity.

1083
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 9: But Derek whispered something and I just watched the interaction

1084
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 9: because I'm very observant, and he whispered something to his ears,

1085
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 9: and then the kid he looked like, in short, he

1086
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 9: looks scared.

1087
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 10: He looked scared. I was like, Derek, what did you say?

1088
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: Nothing?

1089
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 10: And Derek is like, don't ask. I'm not gonna tell

1090
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 10: you this is I'm like, I'm just a curious gal.

1091
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 10: You know, I've never experienced it, I've never been around it.

1092
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 10: I don't.

1093
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway, it's just in the brotherhood. I got

1094
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: to know the young man. I got to know that man,

1095
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: and that's it.

1096
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 6: He asked nobody has found as if he ain't know

1097
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 6: he was looking, did.

1098
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: That's not what? But go ahead, I ain't saying, like,

1099
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: what the hell a y'all talking?

1100
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 6: Love Point said, no man doing.

1101
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: He's every week you see him doing something. I think

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Speaker 3: this is the week that he kind of breaks out.

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Speaker 3: I would not be donovant, I'm saying. I said, who Now,

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Speaker 3: I could see with you, he said, I could see

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Speaker 3: children Williams having some problems with him this week.

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Speaker 5: I think you're gonna see a couple of socks.

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Speaker 7: So you guys, do you guys feel at this point

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Speaker 7: based on what you've seen that Donovan maybe the guy

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Speaker 7: that if you if you.

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Speaker 6: Look at his pressures, he's getting close.

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Speaker 8: He's getting close, but you know when you give up

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Speaker 8: seven yards of cushion and you know the ball comes

1113
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Speaker 8: out fast. But he's showing some of those past rush

1114
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Speaker 8: moves that we were seeing in camp.

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, that's awesome because I think right now that

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Speaker 7: was what for me, at least when they made the

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Speaker 7: Micah trade, I was like, now it becomes even more

1118
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Speaker 7: critical that Zerako turned into a player for them, particularly

1119
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Speaker 7: a pass rusher for them. And I know he's a rookie,

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Speaker 7: I get it, but he has to develop you he

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Speaker 7: doesn't necessarily have to be Micah, but he's got to

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Speaker 7: be a guy who is a really, really good pass rusher.

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Speaker 7: One of those guys that we talk about every week

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Speaker 7: were like, you know, he ain't like, he's not Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 7: but he can get after you, you know. And if

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Speaker 7: he can be a dude like that, and I think,

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Speaker 7: and you pick up two first round picks, I think

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Speaker 7: you did something there and that's what that's why that

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Speaker 7: that move for me was all about.

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Speaker 2: What can you get out? Ezeraka?

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Speaker 7: All Right, I appreciate you, guys, Jumps. I'm back tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna wrap this thing up. Amber will be gone,

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Speaker 7: but I've already got a game plan for you guys.

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Speaker 7: A little bit of yetti time. We'll do that tomorrow

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Speaker 7: for Vach Lombardi and Brian brought us and Amber Garcia.

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Speaker 7: I'm Derek Giltman. Has been The Break live on Dallas

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