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Speaker 4: She has sent her pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, feeling a little under the weather today. She got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: The one and six Panthers are at the four and

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Speaker 4: Where are they playing at home?

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. I mean, the league has gotten away with

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: The worst thing, it's it's Fred's favorite team too. The

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Speaker 4: You know, we ran the play, and you ran the play,

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Speaker 4: Jimmy golant To. You would come back and say, Paul

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Speaker 4: and done that, only because I was so sick of

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Speaker 3: Do you think you could go into the wide receiver

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Speaker 4: And I think I could tell them to you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Paul finishes his five minute like you know, fire and

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Speaker 4: Like, who was that. That's the guy that works on

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Speaker 6: He just knows.

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Speaker 3: It is Tuesday here at Let's Stadium, and it's a

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Speaker 3: victory Tuesday because the Patriots beat the Jets. It's always

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Speaker 3: a good day when the Jets lose, and even better

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Speaker 3: when you win when you beat them.

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Speaker 4: So what I was doing the pup, but I wasn't

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Speaker 4: on oh victory Tuesday. Absolutely. I just want to echo

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Speaker 4: your sentiments from the post game show and let you

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Speaker 4: give get a chance to reiterate. Just I'm proud.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud of the guys, I'm proud of the bounce back,

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Speaker 4: The response, yeah it, m yeah, Fred Fred had a

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Speaker 8: I feel like I was I was so off because

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Speaker 6: Don't worry to Paul, just the ending.

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Speaker 8: And I was like, this is great, what a nice win.

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Speaker 8: And all of a sudden, I had this like where

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Speaker 6: And I had to talk about it because I was

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Speaker 4: Get a late step.

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Speaker 3: I was so frazzled, rattled, and I wasn't really.

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Speaker 4: Honest with you. I didn't sense that. Now I seem

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Speaker 3: That was jump in.

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Speaker 6: You know that energy from my future energy.

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Speaker 6: But I'm hoping to have a little good feel to

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Speaker 3: It's a good win last year, last week. Last week

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Speaker 4: That's right, all of us, He actually said that. He

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Speaker 9: Good Win by who?

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Speaker 4: Great drive by who? Who drafted him?

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Speaker 4: So I and the rest was about that. Now, in

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Speaker 6: I don't know why it's just not going to work.

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Speaker 4: But most people, in all seriousness, I'm joking with you

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Speaker 4: because I do know that. That's why you said it.

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Speaker 4: Like I think he's just being.

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Speaker 4: He's not playing with.

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Speaker 3: That's all on Rogers, I think, I really do.

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Speaker 8: I didn't get to big Shot, my favorite week, No,

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Speaker 3: It's still not like they don't have good running backs.

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Speaker 9: Cascratch? And it's on this real quick with Bill, because

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Speaker 9: Who drafted him at the trade deadline last year when

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Speaker 4: What was the offer right?

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Speaker 9: And what were you doing? Were you locked in? Were

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Speaker 9: Why didn't you trade him last year when his value

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Speaker 4: He is a pretty good player in a situational role.

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean you don't trade him. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: an expiring contract. You made that mistake, as Evan absolutely

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Speaker 4: garnered a draft pick. The other part that Bill said,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you caught this, you know it's

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Speaker 4: you know, that's a waste. They were going to get

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Speaker 6: I don't think you're gonna get off set by anyone.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna sign some guys that we are going to

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Speaker 8: easily offset that contract.

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Speaker 9: It just rubs me the wrong way because I look,

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Speaker 9: it was that they got for him. So you know,

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Speaker 3: And I just so that said, regardless of what Bill

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Speaker 4: Oh for this year, for this year? No, No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I mean I mean maybe maybe, yeah, maybe someone would

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Speaker 8: Yeah, It's seemed interesting to me to see how they

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Speaker 8: these athletic quarterbacks. I think it's the same kind of

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Speaker 6: Okay, but he's just always been what he was. He's

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Speaker 3: Calledst the run, No can't.

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Speaker 8: But it's you know, I'm just probably not and he's

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Speaker 3: But if you're a Chiefs fan, you're like, listen, they're

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Speaker 4: So I'd be very surprised. I'd be very surprised if

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Speaker 4: But that's a team that's gonna play with the lead

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Speaker 4: You know, mobile quarterbacks that can make play some place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean tough.

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Speaker 8: I mean Jonathan Jones banged up. I mean I might

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Speaker 9: Locker room guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe kJ Osborne.

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Speaker 4: You know, I would do that in a blink.

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Speaker 3: But I don't you would.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I would.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I would. Anyone's given you a

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Speaker 8: You're just so desperate for talented players. He drafted one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, don't don't get rid of him. Now, keep your drafting, developing,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, but I don't know if they haven't any real value.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they would have any interest in

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Speaker 4: I just think the day in terms of just.

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Speaker 3: you said before the show that was a big yard.

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Speaker 3: It was a big yard, you know, for for Stevenson.

442
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Speaker 4: You know, And I think that you know, it's funny

443
00:19:19,114 --> 00:19:22,834
Speaker 4: because it's all perception, right. I think everything that we're

444
00:19:22,833 --> 00:19:25,033
Speaker 4: talking about that we liked about the game in terms

445
00:19:25,073 --> 00:19:30,354
Speaker 4: of their mental fortitude and you know, their response and handling,

446
00:19:30,513 --> 00:19:34,434
Speaker 4: sort of the noise of the week all happened over

447
00:19:34,474 --> 00:19:37,113
Speaker 4: the first you know, fifty nine minutes and forty seconds.

448
00:19:37,154 --> 00:19:40,393
Speaker 4: If they didn't get the yard and it was close,

449
00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:44,633
Speaker 4: I mean they looked at it right, Yeah, But perception wise,

450
00:19:44,754 --> 00:19:46,994
Speaker 4: it would be so different if they did all of

451
00:19:46,994 --> 00:19:50,234
Speaker 4: that and lost again, all the talk would be can

452
00:19:50,273 --> 00:19:52,793
Speaker 4: they get up off the mat? You know, and they

453
00:19:52,914 --> 00:19:54,833
Speaker 4: poured a lot out they you know, they emptied the

454
00:19:54,833 --> 00:19:58,394
Speaker 4: bucket in that, you know, emotionally, the backup quarterback comes

455
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Speaker 4: in and plays. I think that by far the best

456
00:20:01,073 --> 00:20:05,434
Speaker 4: game he's played this year. Yeah, per set, they can

457
00:20:05,474 --> 00:20:08,634
Speaker 4: they rebound from that. It's just so much different perception wise.

458
00:20:08,634 --> 00:20:11,914
Speaker 3: Are you surprised at how the Jets attacked per set?

459
00:20:11,994 --> 00:20:14,353
Speaker 3: Like they really didn't like send the house.

460
00:20:14,194 --> 00:20:16,033
Speaker 4: You know, and they didn't really butz him until the

461
00:20:16,073 --> 00:20:16,553
Speaker 4: last drive.

462
00:20:16,634 --> 00:20:18,834
Speaker 9: Yeah, last drive, they came after him a little bit.

463
00:20:20,073 --> 00:20:24,153
Speaker 9: I want to give a VP a little bit of flowers,

464
00:20:24,313 --> 00:20:27,153
Speaker 9: because if we're gonna kill him when they're down, then

465
00:20:27,194 --> 00:20:29,434
Speaker 9: I sure when they have a good games, we should

466
00:20:29,434 --> 00:20:33,153
Speaker 9: give him some praise. He's getting better at it, like

467
00:20:33,234 --> 00:20:35,914
Speaker 9: you can tell in the games that he's getting better

468
00:20:36,434 --> 00:20:39,994
Speaker 9: at you know, calling the right calls at the right

469
00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,634
Speaker 9: times and timing things up to the coverages and attacking

470
00:20:43,674 --> 00:20:47,914
Speaker 9: tendencies and things of that nature. I thought that last

471
00:20:47,994 --> 00:20:51,714
Speaker 9: couple of weeks really he deserves credit to for for Drake,

472
00:20:51,914 --> 00:20:54,834
Speaker 9: Like Drake May has been ready to play three weeks

473
00:20:54,874 --> 00:20:57,353
Speaker 9: in a row. They've had him ready to play. He

474
00:20:57,394 --> 00:20:59,713
Speaker 9: knows what he's looking at, he knows what they're asking

475
00:20:59,754 --> 00:21:04,393
Speaker 9: of him. He's making plays. He's head coach offense, and

476
00:21:04,593 --> 00:21:08,073
Speaker 9: you know, Drake May's development is his purview. Also, getting Jacoby,

477
00:21:08,194 --> 00:21:10,914
Speaker 9: you know, ready to be the backup is his purview too.

478
00:21:10,994 --> 00:21:15,994
Speaker 9: So they're run out. Their rushing attack is still dreadful, frankly,

479
00:21:16,073 --> 00:21:18,914
Speaker 9: but the passing game has gotten a lot better.

480
00:21:18,994 --> 00:21:21,394
Speaker 4: Doesn't it seem like so long ago that they were

481
00:21:21,474 --> 00:21:24,073
Speaker 4: racking up like one hundred and seventy yards on the ground.

482
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah those the first game.

483
00:21:25,754 --> 00:21:26,833
Speaker 4: They had, first couple.

484
00:21:27,313 --> 00:21:31,754
Speaker 9: Yeah, they had minus thirty one yards before contact in

485
00:21:31,754 --> 00:21:35,833
Speaker 9: this game, negative thirty one. That is that's hard to

486
00:21:35,833 --> 00:21:36,634
Speaker 9: do like that.

487
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Speaker 4: That is answer your question as to why stephensenter right, yeah, yeah,

488
00:21:41,874 --> 00:21:43,874
Speaker 4: right on them. I mean he's getting hit every time

489
00:21:43,874 --> 00:21:46,994
Speaker 4: he gets Yeah, I mean he had seven force missed

490
00:21:46,994 --> 00:21:50,353
Speaker 4: tackles in this game and twenty four yards after contact,

491
00:21:50,674 --> 00:21:52,994
Speaker 4: you know, above expectations.

492
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Speaker 9: So like you're looking at Remandre just any of the

493
00:21:56,313 --> 00:21:59,673
Speaker 9: running yards that they got were either Drake may or Remandre.

494
00:21:59,353 --> 00:22:01,754
Speaker 4: Just maybe something in the field.

495
00:22:02,033 --> 00:22:05,354
Speaker 9: Yeah. So they can't run block, that's a big concern.

496
00:22:05,434 --> 00:22:08,354
Speaker 9: But their past protection has been better and their scheming.

497
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Speaker 9: I think in the.

498
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Speaker 3: Past myself game yeah, right, one day I can't drive

499
00:22:12,234 --> 00:22:14,754
Speaker 3: and I can put next day my short game stinks,

500
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Speaker 3: but then I can drive.

501
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

502
00:22:16,114 --> 00:22:17,714
Speaker 3: You know, now all of a sudden they can pass

503
00:22:17,754 --> 00:22:19,553
Speaker 3: protect okay, and now they can't run block.

504
00:22:19,714 --> 00:22:23,034
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's definitely been better in protection. Yeah, that's

505
00:22:23,033 --> 00:22:24,754
Speaker 4: why I put it on. It was one of the

506
00:22:24,793 --> 00:22:27,194
Speaker 4: things I on my good list for the week. I

507
00:22:27,313 --> 00:22:29,553
Speaker 4: kind of blew it off a little bit in the

508
00:22:29,634 --> 00:22:31,754
Speaker 4: Jacksonville game because I didn't really think it was that

509
00:22:31,954 --> 00:22:34,153
Speaker 4: much better. It was just so much better than it

510
00:22:34,234 --> 00:22:37,594
Speaker 4: had been. But I think Jacksonville doesn't really get after

511
00:22:37,634 --> 00:22:39,714
Speaker 4: the passer at all. I still thought the numbers were

512
00:22:39,714 --> 00:22:43,553
Speaker 4: reasonably high. But this game, the Jets can get after

513
00:22:43,593 --> 00:22:46,073
Speaker 4: the passer a little bit. They killed them with it

514
00:22:46,154 --> 00:22:48,513
Speaker 4: in the first game. Now, I don't know how much

515
00:22:48,513 --> 00:22:50,954
Speaker 4: of that is the Jets maybe outthought themselves a little

516
00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:53,113
Speaker 4: bit and said, well, we sent all those all that

517
00:22:53,154 --> 00:22:55,433
Speaker 4: pressure at them the first time, they're going to be

518
00:22:55,474 --> 00:22:57,073
Speaker 4: more prepared for it. We're not going to do it

519
00:22:57,114 --> 00:22:59,433
Speaker 4: this time. I don't know if they kind of, you know,

520
00:22:59,474 --> 00:23:03,074
Speaker 4: they know what we we know. Maybe they they would themselves.

521
00:23:04,474 --> 00:23:07,313
Speaker 4: But the pass protection was better. I mean, those guys

522
00:23:07,394 --> 00:23:10,994
Speaker 4: did a better job, I thought. Bill. One of the

523
00:23:10,994 --> 00:23:13,153
Speaker 4: things that Bill pointed out that I think was valid

524
00:23:13,714 --> 00:23:17,954
Speaker 4: was Thesan Reddick, you know, doing the Chris Slade chasing

525
00:23:18,033 --> 00:23:18,754
Speaker 4: cars behind the.

526
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Speaker 3: Course Chicago been a possible destination for Bill Belichick.

527
00:23:23,914 --> 00:23:27,474
Speaker 6: After out the Chicago.

528
00:23:27,593 --> 00:23:32,994
Speaker 4: After I hadn't heard that cornerback wouldn't have been taunting

529
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Speaker 4: the fans.

530
00:23:33,994 --> 00:23:36,793
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that that wouldn't have happened. That's a

531
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Speaker 3: place where got the quarterback go in.

532
00:23:40,994 --> 00:23:43,793
Speaker 8: That works, Like he hits that bomb and that's what

533
00:23:43,833 --> 00:23:47,434
Speaker 8: they're and like we Patriots get in like one play,

534
00:23:47,553 --> 00:23:49,954
Speaker 8: like one play kind of it's like deflected to a

535
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Speaker 8: guy in the back of the end zone.

536
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Speaker 6: You know, like just he just everything, you know.

537
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Speaker 3: Even the way he created time.

538
00:23:55,914 --> 00:23:58,313
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was trying to take car away from him.

539
00:23:58,313 --> 00:24:00,273
Speaker 4: I'm a great play by Daniels. I don't know if

540
00:24:00,313 --> 00:24:02,513
Speaker 4: you guys watched any of that, like before, just the

541
00:24:02,553 --> 00:24:04,833
Speaker 4: highlight of the Hail Mary kind of a month. The

542
00:24:04,874 --> 00:24:08,074
Speaker 4: fourth quarter was an incredible football. It was really good.

543
00:24:08,154 --> 00:24:10,594
Speaker 4: Like Washington probably should have won the game by three

544
00:24:10,674 --> 00:24:14,474
Speaker 4: touchdowns prior to that because Chicago couldn't do anything offensively.

545
00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:17,234
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden they couldn't be Like Caleb

546
00:24:17,273 --> 00:24:19,673
Speaker 4: Williams just caught fire in the fourth quarter. They had

547
00:24:19,674 --> 00:24:21,234
Speaker 4: the long run at the end of the third quarter

548
00:24:21,273 --> 00:24:23,954
Speaker 4: by Swift and then they got all the way down

549
00:24:23,994 --> 00:24:28,633
Speaker 4: there to take the lead twice, and they tried to

550
00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:31,914
Speaker 4: hand the ball off to a lineman who dropped it. Yeah,

551
00:24:31,234 --> 00:24:35,073
Speaker 4: that wasn't a great handoff, and fairness to the lineman.

552
00:24:35,154 --> 00:24:37,193
Speaker 4: I don't think Williams did a really good job of

553
00:24:37,553 --> 00:24:40,714
Speaker 4: giving the ball, but they fumbled inside the two yard

554
00:24:40,714 --> 00:24:42,913
Speaker 4: line yep. And then you're like, oh, they had a

555
00:24:42,994 --> 00:24:45,714
Speaker 4: chance to steal this game. Nope, they stopped him and

556
00:24:45,754 --> 00:24:48,513
Speaker 4: went right back down the field, and Williams made some

557
00:24:48,593 --> 00:24:51,273
Speaker 4: really really good plays to do it, and I thought

558
00:24:51,313 --> 00:24:53,273
Speaker 4: that was going to be like kind of a defining

559
00:24:53,353 --> 00:24:55,833
Speaker 4: win for him, and then all of a sudden they

560
00:24:55,833 --> 00:24:58,273
Speaker 4: came up by al Mary, which was amazing.

561
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Speaker 9: Can we normalize not backing off on Hail Mary's, Like,

562
00:25:04,754 --> 00:25:08,033
Speaker 9: I just they like two man three man rushes that

563
00:25:08,114 --> 00:25:09,234
Speaker 9: you see on Hail Mary's.

564
00:25:09,273 --> 00:25:11,393
Speaker 4: The rush so stupid, it's ridiculous.

565
00:25:11,434 --> 00:25:14,273
Speaker 9: Like you got the quarterback. I saw it on Sunday

566
00:25:14,353 --> 00:25:17,674
Speaker 9: Night Football at Jayden Daniels had twelve seconds almost thirteen.

567
00:25:17,714 --> 00:25:19,234
Speaker 4: It was like twelve yeah, nine to.

568
00:25:19,273 --> 00:25:21,954
Speaker 9: Run around back there, like can you blitz them or

569
00:25:21,954 --> 00:25:24,793
Speaker 9: something like you just you don't have to put everybody

570
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Speaker 9: in the end.

571
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Speaker 3: Two things, the ineligible man downfield rule is still an

572
00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:31,754
Speaker 3: effect on a Hail Mary, right, Yeah, so you don't

573
00:25:31,793 --> 00:25:33,633
Speaker 3: have to, like you said, you don't have to do

574
00:25:33,714 --> 00:25:34,273
Speaker 3: it that way.

575
00:25:34,553 --> 00:25:37,474
Speaker 4: The defense, it just does have to do with intelligible

576
00:25:37,513 --> 00:25:38,114
Speaker 4: men down field.

577
00:25:38,194 --> 00:25:40,234
Speaker 3: Well, it's not like you can have guys down there

578
00:25:41,154 --> 00:25:42,474
Speaker 3: able to catch the ball.

579
00:25:42,593 --> 00:25:46,154
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, because you're always talking only five

580
00:25:46,194 --> 00:25:49,793
Speaker 9: eligible receivers, right right, So can we have one, you know,

581
00:25:49,874 --> 00:25:54,033
Speaker 9: six or guys down there instead of everybody or seven entirely?

582
00:25:54,073 --> 00:25:55,633
Speaker 4: What I would do, I would either do what Evan's

583
00:25:55,634 --> 00:25:58,074
Speaker 4: talking about now would I don't know if you guys

584
00:25:58,073 --> 00:26:00,353
Speaker 4: saw the week before, Probably you don't because I'm the

585
00:26:00,434 --> 00:26:03,033
Speaker 4: only one that cares about this crap. But Detroit, Minnesota

586
00:26:03,114 --> 00:26:06,714
Speaker 4: had a similar situation the prior week. It's about Midfield

587
00:26:06,754 --> 00:26:10,593
Speaker 4: Minnesota's got uh hail Mary. They went after him and

588
00:26:10,634 --> 00:26:12,953
Speaker 4: they ended up sacking them. You know, they sent more

589
00:26:12,994 --> 00:26:15,194
Speaker 4: than they could block and they got them right. And

590
00:26:15,273 --> 00:26:16,833
Speaker 4: I think their theory is the very.

591
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Speaker 3: Least, you're not going to have a good base in

592
00:26:18,194 --> 00:26:19,273
Speaker 3: which to throw it at eighty.

593
00:26:19,474 --> 00:26:22,914
Speaker 9: But the receiver receivers also need the time to get.

594
00:26:22,793 --> 00:26:25,074
Speaker 4: They need time to get down there. Jill said, I'm

595
00:26:25,073 --> 00:26:26,913
Speaker 4: not giving him time to get down there. And I

596
00:26:26,954 --> 00:26:30,793
Speaker 4: think Fred's point is really valid. Who can throw the

597
00:26:30,833 --> 00:26:34,474
Speaker 4: ball with the guy hanging on him sixty five yards

598
00:26:34,474 --> 00:26:36,833
Speaker 4: like Jayden Daniels did. He didn't have to throw it

599
00:26:36,874 --> 00:26:39,394
Speaker 4: with a guy hanging on him because they only rushed three.

600
00:26:39,553 --> 00:26:41,833
Speaker 4: Now here's what I really don't understand about that play

601
00:26:42,313 --> 00:26:45,834
Speaker 4: rush Like, to me, either rush nobody and put all

602
00:26:45,833 --> 00:26:49,033
Speaker 4: eleven guys in the end zone, or play it conventionally.

603
00:26:49,793 --> 00:26:52,353
Speaker 4: What the Bears did is they rushed three guys with

604
00:26:52,434 --> 00:26:56,954
Speaker 4: a spy. What is the spy doing? Did you see that?

605
00:26:57,033 --> 00:26:59,954
Speaker 3: I didn't notice that they had, Like, you know, Casey

606
00:26:59,994 --> 00:27:04,033
Speaker 3: takes off and then then what then he can't catch him? Well,

607
00:27:04,073 --> 00:27:05,353
Speaker 3: you got the Miami miracle.

608
00:27:07,553 --> 00:27:09,714
Speaker 4: Make make them do it that way if they want,

609
00:27:09,793 --> 00:27:12,513
Speaker 4: don't you know? Like I just didn't really understand the

610
00:27:12,593 --> 00:27:14,833
Speaker 4: idea of we're only going to rush three and we're

611
00:27:14,833 --> 00:27:17,273
Speaker 4: going to keep a spy in case Daniels gets out

612
00:27:17,313 --> 00:27:20,393
Speaker 4: of the pocket like he was, like Evan said, thirteen

613
00:27:20,434 --> 00:27:23,033
Speaker 4: It was almost thirteen seconds he bought on that.

614
00:27:22,914 --> 00:27:25,994
Speaker 6: Play rush five one on one across that would.

615
00:27:25,793 --> 00:27:28,154
Speaker 4: Just come after him. I might even send an extra guy.

616
00:27:28,353 --> 00:27:30,433
Speaker 9: It depends on where you are on the field. Because

617
00:27:30,674 --> 00:27:32,234
Speaker 9: a couple of years ago, it's probably a lot of

618
00:27:32,313 --> 00:27:36,313
Speaker 9: years ago now, but Greg Williams famously sent the House

619
00:27:36,434 --> 00:27:39,114
Speaker 9: in a similar situation and they just had a one

620
00:27:39,114 --> 00:27:41,234
Speaker 9: on one on the outside, and the guy threw a

621
00:27:41,234 --> 00:27:44,673
Speaker 9: go ball for a game winning touchdown and it burned.

622
00:27:44,714 --> 00:27:46,633
Speaker 9: He ran cover zero and it burns.

623
00:27:46,634 --> 00:27:48,433
Speaker 4: Oh was it a hill Mary or is it?

624
00:27:48,874 --> 00:27:51,834
Speaker 9: I can't remember exactly where they were on the field, right,

625
00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:55,033
Speaker 9: Like that's the difference. Like, if they're in, you know,

626
00:27:55,033 --> 00:27:56,634
Speaker 9: on the other side of the fifty, even if it's

627
00:27:56,714 --> 00:27:59,674
Speaker 9: just inside the fifty, then most quarterbacks can make that throw.

628
00:28:00,073 --> 00:28:01,873
Speaker 9: But once you start to get to like, you know,

629
00:28:01,914 --> 00:28:06,033
Speaker 9: a sixty plus yard bomb, that's when he said, Like, if.

630
00:28:05,914 --> 00:28:07,874
Speaker 4: It's a situation where you can just have him throw

631
00:28:07,914 --> 00:28:09,234
Speaker 4: it up and he can catch it at like the

632
00:28:09,313 --> 00:28:12,194
Speaker 4: thirty and run the thirty yards, then you can't do it.

633
00:28:12,754 --> 00:28:14,954
Speaker 4: But if the guy needs to get the ball to

634
00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:18,754
Speaker 4: the end zone and you you do what Detroit did.

635
00:28:18,793 --> 00:28:20,954
Speaker 4: I just don't see what Sam Donald can possibly do.

636
00:28:21,114 --> 00:28:23,234
Speaker 4: I don't know how he can get that pass off.

637
00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:25,033
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Lions, are they the best team in

638
00:28:25,033 --> 00:28:26,073
Speaker 3: the end NFL right now?

639
00:28:26,793 --> 00:28:30,154
Speaker 4: And they're playing the best So I have a little

640
00:28:30,674 --> 00:28:34,154
Speaker 4: little observation. I'm curious with you guys, think all three

641
00:28:34,194 --> 00:28:36,673
Speaker 4: of you you've been watching some of the stuff that

642
00:28:36,714 --> 00:28:38,633
Speaker 4: the Lions have been doing the last few weeks.

643
00:28:38,914 --> 00:28:40,394
Speaker 6: He's got a little trolling.

644
00:28:40,074 --> 00:28:42,314
Speaker 4: Two thousand and seven, Bill Belichi vibe.

645
00:28:42,114 --> 00:28:44,873
Speaker 3: To it, like where Dan Skipper, Yeah, we're having too

646
00:28:44,954 --> 00:28:46,714
Speaker 3: much fun. Yeah.

647
00:28:46,834 --> 00:28:47,034
Speaker 4: Yeah.

648
00:28:47,274 --> 00:28:48,714
Speaker 9: Montgomery threw a touchdown pass.

649
00:28:48,754 --> 00:28:51,194
Speaker 4: Montgomery threw a touchdown pass. They kicked a fifty one

650
00:28:51,234 --> 00:28:54,994
Speaker 4: yard field goal to make it fifty two to fourteen. Yeah,

651
00:28:55,074 --> 00:28:58,434
Speaker 4: you know stuff like you know, like almost like Joe

652
00:28:58,434 --> 00:29:01,714
Speaker 4: Gibbs is coaching the other team. You know, we got

653
00:29:01,714 --> 00:29:04,754
Speaker 4: some kind of forty year old actra grind. It just

654
00:29:04,914 --> 00:29:08,474
Speaker 4: seems to me that Dan Campbell is out of poops

655
00:29:08,474 --> 00:29:10,514
Speaker 4: to give and he's look, he's looking to win these

656
00:29:10,554 --> 00:29:11,514
Speaker 4: games as impressively.

657
00:29:11,714 --> 00:29:14,393
Speaker 8: I set it off the ineligible receiver thing that they

658
00:29:14,434 --> 00:29:16,314
Speaker 8: did with Skipper right last year, that that was the

659
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Speaker 8: whole thing. Like I get that's why they were initially

660
00:29:18,754 --> 00:29:20,473
Speaker 8: kind of felt wronged by the league. But has there

661
00:29:20,514 --> 00:29:21,994
Speaker 8: been something else that they like that.

662
00:29:21,954 --> 00:29:23,794
Speaker 4: I don't know, but they've started with the Dallas, But.

663
00:29:23,754 --> 00:29:25,514
Speaker 6: I've seen what you're talking about. That's why have a

664
00:29:25,554 --> 00:29:25,914
Speaker 6: lot of.

665
00:29:26,074 --> 00:29:28,113
Speaker 9: They have a lot of trick plays in their bag,

666
00:29:28,274 --> 00:29:31,274
Speaker 9: and they're not afraid to use them. They're very tricky,

667
00:29:31,314 --> 00:29:34,114
Speaker 9: Like Johnson's just a douche. Yeah, but I.

668
00:29:34,154 --> 00:29:36,994
Speaker 4: Wonder if like it's I don't know this, I don't

669
00:29:37,034 --> 00:29:39,314
Speaker 4: cover the Lions, but I'm just looking at it. I

670
00:29:39,394 --> 00:29:43,393
Speaker 4: believe that they're trying to do these trick plays in

671
00:29:43,434 --> 00:29:44,794
Speaker 4: an effort to run the score up.

672
00:29:44,954 --> 00:29:49,153
Speaker 9: Yeah, the touchdown was definitely I was like, okay, this

673
00:29:49,234 --> 00:29:49,874
Speaker 9: is a little much.

674
00:29:49,914 --> 00:29:52,194
Speaker 4: I mean they had they had the touchdown pass back

675
00:29:52,234 --> 00:29:55,554
Speaker 4: to Golf I think like two weeks ago, you know now,

676
00:29:55,554 --> 00:29:58,074
Speaker 4: and then you say that, and then at the same time,

677
00:29:58,234 --> 00:30:00,514
Speaker 4: like Jared Goff threw for eighty five yards in that game.

678
00:30:00,594 --> 00:30:01,913
Speaker 8: That's what I was going to say, Paul. It kind

679
00:30:01,914 --> 00:30:04,034
Speaker 8: of feels that the Lions are an anti Perillo team.

680
00:30:04,074 --> 00:30:06,914
Speaker 8: They don't throw well, they just run and they score

681
00:30:06,954 --> 00:30:07,554
Speaker 8: fifty points.

682
00:30:07,554 --> 00:30:09,714
Speaker 4: Well, this game, they just decided to let their punt return.

683
00:30:10,554 --> 00:30:10,754
Speaker 9: Yeah.

684
00:30:10,794 --> 00:30:13,913
Speaker 4: They had like two hundred and sixty something yards of

685
00:30:13,954 --> 00:30:14,834
Speaker 4: returns in this game.

686
00:30:15,074 --> 00:30:19,114
Speaker 9: They had five drives start inside the Tennessee twenty six

687
00:30:19,194 --> 00:30:23,274
Speaker 9: card line, right, four turnovers by the Times, two big returns.

688
00:30:23,514 --> 00:30:26,193
Speaker 9: I obviously am I'm reading my pre you for the Titans.

689
00:30:26,194 --> 00:30:28,474
Speaker 4: I think they were three big returns they had. I mean,

690
00:30:28,514 --> 00:30:29,754
Speaker 4: you're not counting the touchdown.

691
00:30:30,274 --> 00:30:31,913
Speaker 9: The punt return and the kickoff return.

692
00:30:32,074 --> 00:30:34,514
Speaker 4: They had two punt returns of over fifty yards. I

693
00:30:34,594 --> 00:30:37,834
Speaker 4: believe they had one hundred and ninety yards of punt returns. Yeah,

694
00:30:37,874 --> 00:30:38,994
Speaker 4: in this same I still.

695
00:30:38,754 --> 00:30:41,274
Speaker 6: Think it's an anti Parlo game though, all special teams

696
00:30:41,274 --> 00:30:42,034
Speaker 6: in credit game.

697
00:30:42,114 --> 00:30:43,594
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.

698
00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:45,954
Speaker 9: But even like when you look at the Titans defense

699
00:30:45,994 --> 00:30:48,314
Speaker 9: and the Lions offense in that game, it like, wasn't

700
00:30:48,354 --> 00:30:51,354
Speaker 9: that bad for the Titans defense. They're just getting twenty

701
00:30:51,554 --> 00:30:53,633
Speaker 9: They literally get the ball at the twelve yard line, Like,

702
00:30:53,674 --> 00:30:54,873
Speaker 9: what do you want the defense to do?

703
00:30:54,954 --> 00:30:58,154
Speaker 4: It's like force a field goal? But no, they I'm

704
00:30:58,194 --> 00:30:58,633
Speaker 4: just kidding.

705
00:30:59,234 --> 00:31:01,834
Speaker 9: They have our twenty fourth defense.

706
00:31:02,114 --> 00:31:05,994
Speaker 4: And they are number one in defense period. Yeah that's deceiving, right,

707
00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:09,194
Speaker 4: well I assume, but like they're ninth and DVA, so

708
00:31:09,234 --> 00:31:11,794
Speaker 4: they're they're the other team gets the ball on such

709
00:31:11,834 --> 00:31:14,794
Speaker 4: short fields, right, but yards wise, But that doesn't explain

710
00:31:14,834 --> 00:31:17,434
Speaker 4: at all. That explains the game Sunday. Yeah, like they

711
00:31:17,434 --> 00:31:21,954
Speaker 4: get fifty two points and yeah, I mean I'm just

712
00:31:21,994 --> 00:31:22,514
Speaker 4: looking at it.

713
00:31:22,634 --> 00:31:23,354
Speaker 9: Two points.

714
00:31:24,034 --> 00:31:27,274
Speaker 4: It's twenty four carries for one hundred and sixty four yards,

715
00:31:27,274 --> 00:31:30,554
Speaker 4: Like that's that's you know, good ground production. But it

716
00:31:30,634 --> 00:31:33,274
Speaker 4: was one seventy yard run, you know, to go the

717
00:31:33,274 --> 00:31:36,674
Speaker 4: whole Democras Covington route and Chared Goff is twelve or

718
00:31:36,714 --> 00:31:42,954
Speaker 4: fifteen for eighty five yards, so you know, no three touchdowns. Statistically,

719
00:31:43,074 --> 00:31:45,954
Speaker 4: did the number one ranked defense in football yards wise,

720
00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,794
Speaker 4: yards wise and pass yards, which to me is far

721
00:31:48,834 --> 00:31:54,514
Speaker 4: more Yeah, wouldn't. I just look at it, and you

722
00:31:54,634 --> 00:31:57,633
Speaker 4: better be ready to not, you know, to try to

723
00:31:57,674 --> 00:31:59,713
Speaker 4: take the ball away because I don't think you're going

724
00:31:59,754 --> 00:32:01,834
Speaker 4: to mount a lot of based on these stats. The

725
00:32:02,034 --> 00:32:04,153
Speaker 4: number one and you know they turned the ball minus

726
00:32:04,194 --> 00:32:06,474
Speaker 4: thirteen yeah, turnal ratio.

727
00:32:06,634 --> 00:32:09,514
Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean the advanced metrics really like their defense too.

728
00:32:09,554 --> 00:32:14,794
Speaker 9: They're ninth in DVA. They're top what twelve in EPA

729
00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:18,754
Speaker 9: right as well, and like their their defenses are really exotic,

730
00:32:18,794 --> 00:32:21,674
Speaker 9: like they it's hard to identify exactly what they're doing

731
00:32:21,834 --> 00:32:24,074
Speaker 9: in the back end some of the time. And they

732
00:32:24,394 --> 00:32:27,314
Speaker 9: have a good defense. It just they've been put in

733
00:32:27,354 --> 00:32:29,153
Speaker 9: some really tough spots. They're not very good in the

734
00:32:29,154 --> 00:32:31,394
Speaker 9: red zone. They had they're twenty fourth in the red zone.

735
00:32:31,954 --> 00:32:33,794
Speaker 9: So to Paul's point, they don't they don't force a

736
00:32:33,834 --> 00:32:35,953
Speaker 9: lot of field goals when they get the ball at

737
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:38,473
Speaker 9: the twenty yard line, but a lot of it is

738
00:32:38,474 --> 00:32:39,594
Speaker 9: not on on the defense.

739
00:32:39,634 --> 00:32:41,634
Speaker 6: It sounds like don't get a lot of takeaways either.

740
00:32:42,234 --> 00:32:44,234
Speaker 3: All right, eight five to five pass five hundred is

741
00:32:44,274 --> 00:32:48,314
Speaker 3: the TPX hotline podcasts at Patriots dot com. Is the

742
00:32:48,354 --> 00:32:50,674
Speaker 3: email address? Anything else before we open it up?

743
00:32:51,674 --> 00:32:52,714
Speaker 9: Good for Jacoby?

744
00:32:52,674 --> 00:32:55,154
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, good for Jacoby, yep, really good?

745
00:32:55,314 --> 00:32:55,554
Speaker 4: Yeah.

746
00:32:55,794 --> 00:33:00,074
Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's go to Mike and Vermont. What's up, Mike.

747
00:33:01,914 --> 00:33:03,153
Speaker 10: How are you guys doing today?

748
00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:04,074
Speaker 3: We're doing great.

749
00:33:05,634 --> 00:33:07,674
Speaker 10: My thing is why did the rest call?

750
00:33:07,794 --> 00:33:09,914
Speaker 4: How much the helmet on May?

751
00:33:11,194 --> 00:33:13,913
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good non call. Honestly, I

752
00:33:13,914 --> 00:33:16,394
Speaker 3: thought May went into a slide light. I don't think

753
00:33:16,394 --> 00:33:19,234
Speaker 3: there was any way that the defender could have held up,

754
00:33:20,034 --> 00:33:21,234
Speaker 3: So I wasn't like.

755
00:33:21,354 --> 00:33:23,433
Speaker 4: Oh my god, they could have been could have been

756
00:33:23,594 --> 00:33:25,114
Speaker 4: it could It.

757
00:33:25,034 --> 00:33:27,834
Speaker 3: Was definitely helmet to helmet contact, no doubt.

758
00:33:27,834 --> 00:33:28,314
Speaker 4: No doubt.

759
00:33:28,634 --> 00:33:29,474
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

760
00:33:29,834 --> 00:33:32,113
Speaker 9: I had no problem with the non flag for the

761
00:33:32,154 --> 00:33:35,274
Speaker 9: reasons you're talking about. It probably was helmet to helmet. Oh,

762
00:33:35,394 --> 00:33:37,554
Speaker 9: but it wasn't a late hit on the court, right, No.

763
00:33:37,674 --> 00:33:40,554
Speaker 4: And I would also say that I think it's pretty

764
00:33:40,634 --> 00:33:44,234
Speaker 4: rare thanks to see helmet to helmet hits with established

765
00:33:44,234 --> 00:33:47,074
Speaker 4: ball carriers, like you see it on the defenseless receiver,

766
00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:50,194
Speaker 4: and you certainly see it in the pocket with the quarterback.

767
00:33:50,794 --> 00:33:53,634
Speaker 4: But when the quarterback runs, I mean, he had already

768
00:33:53,674 --> 00:33:56,274
Speaker 4: run seventeen yards for a touchdown. Now he's in the

769
00:33:56,274 --> 00:34:00,434
Speaker 4: midst of an eighteen yard run. You got to treat

770
00:34:00,474 --> 00:34:02,674
Speaker 4: him like a runner. I think that's probably you mentioned

771
00:34:02,714 --> 00:34:05,953
Speaker 4: this Sunday, Freddy, maybe a little lesson well, you know

772
00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:07,914
Speaker 4: what you can get and get down.

773
00:34:08,034 --> 00:34:11,393
Speaker 3: My thing on pap was very filtered. My little thing

774
00:34:11,434 --> 00:34:13,913
Speaker 3: that I do on that show was talking about you know,

775
00:34:15,594 --> 00:34:17,834
Speaker 3: I'm not saying get rid of the slide rule, but

776
00:34:17,874 --> 00:34:20,714
Speaker 3: I think these teams need to start coaching their quarterbacks

777
00:34:20,754 --> 00:34:23,154
Speaker 3: to be a little bit more aggressive and not rely

778
00:34:23,314 --> 00:34:24,794
Speaker 3: on the slide rule to protect you.

779
00:34:24,834 --> 00:34:26,674
Speaker 4: And I think they also and I don't know how to.

780
00:34:26,794 --> 00:34:28,554
Speaker 4: I don't know. I have no idea how that this

781
00:34:28,594 --> 00:34:33,074
Speaker 4: would be incorporated. But these quarterbacks are getting really good

782
00:34:33,074 --> 00:34:36,354
Speaker 4: at it. You know, that's sort of I'm gonna go

783
00:34:36,354 --> 00:34:39,034
Speaker 4: out of bounds maybe like Mahomes did a couple of

784
00:34:39,074 --> 00:34:42,274
Speaker 4: weeks ago, and then you tip down the sideline. You

785
00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:46,314
Speaker 4: should get blasted. You but it's so hard because aren't

786
00:34:46,314 --> 00:34:48,993
Speaker 4: you surprised that that wasn't a penalty on Sunday when

787
00:34:49,034 --> 00:34:51,553
Speaker 4: you saw that live, didn't you think the helmet? Yeah?

788
00:34:51,634 --> 00:34:52,194
Speaker 6: I was.

789
00:34:52,393 --> 00:34:53,953
Speaker 4: I'm not asking you if you thought it should have.

790
00:34:53,994 --> 00:34:55,034
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't surprised.

791
00:34:55,074 --> 00:34:57,513
Speaker 4: I was. I was really surprised. And I'll bet you

792
00:34:57,514 --> 00:35:00,073
Speaker 4: if you know not to go all Patriots Homer here,

793
00:35:00,114 --> 00:35:02,113
Speaker 4: I bet you if it was Mahomes, it would have. Yeah,

794
00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:05,074
Speaker 4: Josh Allen wouldn't have got that cooled down, but Mahomes

795
00:35:05,074 --> 00:35:05,393
Speaker 4: would have.

796
00:35:05,433 --> 00:35:06,953
Speaker 6: The whole slide itself is just so taugh.

797
00:35:07,074 --> 00:35:09,354
Speaker 4: It's so late, and I don't know how the defender

798
00:35:09,393 --> 00:35:13,194
Speaker 4: is supposed to determine as he's coming full blast that

799
00:35:13,514 --> 00:35:14,274
Speaker 4: he's going down.

800
00:35:15,754 --> 00:35:20,154
Speaker 9: The only thing he literally just ran through three guys

801
00:35:20,514 --> 00:35:22,834
Speaker 9: to break a tackle to get to get to that point.

802
00:35:23,473 --> 00:35:25,633
Speaker 9: The Drake May and we were talking about a little

803
00:35:25,674 --> 00:35:27,714
Speaker 9: bit in the in the press box about getting used

804
00:35:27,754 --> 00:35:31,594
Speaker 9: to a mobile quarterback. Yeah, and I have some tough

805
00:35:32,074 --> 00:35:35,473
Speaker 9: times determining whether I like it or I don't like

806
00:35:35,674 --> 00:35:37,954
Speaker 9: It's really like the seventeen yard touchdown.

807
00:35:37,994 --> 00:35:40,433
Speaker 4: It this isn't the day. This isn't the day for it.

808
00:35:40,514 --> 00:35:43,674
Speaker 4: Because it was a great win. I could have a

809
00:35:43,714 --> 00:35:46,193
Speaker 4: two hour show about how much I liked the first

810
00:35:46,274 --> 00:35:50,034
Speaker 4: quarter plus in his development as opposed to the previous

811
00:35:50,034 --> 00:35:50,514
Speaker 4: two games.

812
00:35:50,554 --> 00:35:52,114
Speaker 6: Really, yeah, that's interesting.

813
00:35:52,114 --> 00:35:55,553
Speaker 4: I think everything they did offensively that was positive was

814
00:35:55,714 --> 00:35:56,354
Speaker 4: him scrambling.

815
00:35:56,393 --> 00:35:58,714
Speaker 3: Oh yeah right, It just there's so much have been

816
00:35:58,754 --> 00:36:01,314
Speaker 3: that big throat of booty if he hadn't dropped it.

817
00:36:01,634 --> 00:36:04,554
Speaker 4: Thornton, Yeah, Thornton. But yeah, sorry, right, even that was

818
00:36:04,634 --> 00:36:06,114
Speaker 4: kind of I mean, that was a great throw, but

819
00:36:06,154 --> 00:36:09,634
Speaker 4: that was school yard but broke containing he's running around.

820
00:36:09,674 --> 00:36:12,433
Speaker 3: Oh but that was the kind of thing that we said, Oh,

821
00:36:12,473 --> 00:36:13,593
Speaker 3: he's going to be able to do.

822
00:36:13,514 --> 00:36:15,354
Speaker 4: That, and I love it, and I love it. I

823
00:36:15,393 --> 00:36:19,034
Speaker 4: love the athleticism. Yeah, I don't say that as a negative,

824
00:36:19,873 --> 00:36:22,834
Speaker 4: but yeah, I kind of liked more, you know, the

825
00:36:22,913 --> 00:36:27,714
Speaker 4: conventional stuff. I thought that the Ville first quarter, like

826
00:36:27,873 --> 00:36:30,314
Speaker 4: he can move, he moved around, he bought some time

827
00:36:30,314 --> 00:36:32,194
Speaker 4: and that, but he also like so I thought he

828
00:36:32,234 --> 00:36:34,553
Speaker 4: was seeing it really well from the pocket. Maybe he

829
00:36:34,594 --> 00:36:37,113
Speaker 4: did in this game too. I didn't love the first

830
00:36:37,154 --> 00:36:37,913
Speaker 4: third down throw.

831
00:36:38,034 --> 00:36:39,674
Speaker 3: Not everyone could be Vince Ferragama.

832
00:36:39,754 --> 00:36:42,114
Speaker 4: I thought he saw great point.

833
00:36:42,714 --> 00:36:46,513
Speaker 9: I thought he saw the field pretty well. But like

834
00:36:47,234 --> 00:36:49,033
Speaker 9: you just you don't want to be nitpicky when you

835
00:36:49,194 --> 00:36:51,514
Speaker 9: when you're watching the film, because there are times where

836
00:36:51,834 --> 00:36:53,754
Speaker 9: you're like, well, if you'd stayed in the pocket, like

837
00:36:53,794 --> 00:36:56,474
Speaker 9: he probably could have just made this throw instead of running.

838
00:36:56,674 --> 00:36:58,634
Speaker 9: But then he runs for a seventeen yard touchdown and

839
00:36:58,674 --> 00:37:01,194
Speaker 9: you're like, Wells said, yeah, and I.

840
00:37:01,234 --> 00:37:03,553
Speaker 4: Totally agree with that. And I get back to the

841
00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:06,314
Speaker 4: Belichick criticism of the Jets pass rush. I thought they

842
00:37:06,354 --> 00:37:08,633
Speaker 4: gave him those those lanes. I didn't think it was taken.

843
00:37:08,714 --> 00:37:10,274
Speaker 4: He didn't have to be Houdini to get out of

844
00:37:10,314 --> 00:37:13,074
Speaker 4: the pocket. I think, you know the seas parted.

845
00:37:13,393 --> 00:37:15,674
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was some of the blitzing stuff we were

846
00:37:15,674 --> 00:37:17,794
Speaker 9: talking about earlier. I think you know they came into

847
00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:20,513
Speaker 9: this game from a game plan standpoint. It's you can't

848
00:37:20,594 --> 00:37:23,114
Speaker 9: blitz them, Like it's it's much harder to blitz him

849
00:37:23,154 --> 00:37:25,113
Speaker 9: than it is to butch Jacoby, right, So it might

850
00:37:25,114 --> 00:37:28,953
Speaker 9: not have been in their game plan to blitz a lot.

851
00:37:29,114 --> 00:37:32,434
Speaker 4: We talked about that. Yeah, you know, how much different

852
00:37:32,473 --> 00:37:34,714
Speaker 4: was the game plan because of may as opposed to

853
00:37:34,873 --> 00:37:37,393
Speaker 4: present Now. I would if I were the Jets, I

854
00:37:37,393 --> 00:37:39,113
Speaker 4: would have heeded him up and see if he could

855
00:37:39,274 --> 00:37:43,033
Speaker 4: handle it first, and then backed off. Yeah, but they

856
00:37:43,114 --> 00:37:44,073
Speaker 4: chose to do it the other way.

857
00:37:44,274 --> 00:37:47,074
Speaker 3: Jacob and Illinois writes in it continues to boggle my

858
00:37:47,194 --> 00:37:50,194
Speaker 3: mind how winning a game can cause so much division

859
00:37:50,234 --> 00:37:52,754
Speaker 3: in this league. The amount of comments I've seen on

860
00:37:52,754 --> 00:37:55,513
Speaker 3: social media saying the season is lost and everyone needs

861
00:37:55,514 --> 00:37:58,234
Speaker 3: to be fired into the sun because May got hurt

862
00:37:58,274 --> 00:37:59,314
Speaker 3: is rage inducing.

863
00:37:59,594 --> 00:38:00,354
Speaker 4: Who said that?

864
00:38:00,594 --> 00:38:02,434
Speaker 3: I don't know, is this a straw man email?

865
00:38:03,114 --> 00:38:06,434
Speaker 4: Didn't hit? I got an a SPFW from one person

866
00:38:06,674 --> 00:38:09,033
Speaker 4: who I'm not even sure he was entitly serious, but

867
00:38:09,354 --> 00:38:10,473
Speaker 4: I have not really heard that.

868
00:38:10,634 --> 00:38:13,074
Speaker 3: Now, this isn't a huge set back if TUA is

869
00:38:13,114 --> 00:38:16,154
Speaker 3: any metric to measure by, and we should be rejoicing

870
00:38:16,194 --> 00:38:19,674
Speaker 3: that we rained on the New England New Jersey Packers parade.

871
00:38:20,114 --> 00:38:22,553
Speaker 3: Whether it's Brisset or May wins the good so let's

872
00:38:22,554 --> 00:38:25,194
Speaker 3: be happy about them. Should be as hard as shop

873
00:38:25,393 --> 00:38:27,314
Speaker 3: at Bob's Discount Furniture.

874
00:38:27,473 --> 00:38:28,114
Speaker 11: U p s.

875
00:38:28,433 --> 00:38:30,794
Speaker 3: Any of you watch games and lament your picks and

876
00:38:30,834 --> 00:38:32,154
Speaker 3: spread standings as they.

877
00:38:32,634 --> 00:38:35,513
Speaker 6: Yes, definitely this week, Definitely this week.

878
00:38:35,554 --> 00:38:37,234
Speaker 9: I'm going to be honest, I kind of forget I

879
00:38:37,274 --> 00:38:38,474
Speaker 9: was going to say.

880
00:38:39,994 --> 00:38:40,553
Speaker 3: Who I picked.

881
00:38:40,554 --> 00:38:44,993
Speaker 6: I write it down, and then.

882
00:38:43,514 --> 00:38:46,714
Speaker 4: Sometimes I remember the like there's always a game or

883
00:38:46,714 --> 00:38:49,234
Speaker 4: two that I picked differently than everybody else, and I

884
00:38:49,274 --> 00:38:52,794
Speaker 4: remember that particularly game, But in general terms, I don't

885
00:38:52,794 --> 00:38:55,314
Speaker 4: remember who I picked, and I have noticed a lot,

886
00:38:55,433 --> 00:38:59,674
Speaker 4: especially lately, I picked different on Thursday, and then sometimes

887
00:38:59,674 --> 00:39:01,274
Speaker 4: that those games are in the six pack, Like I

888
00:39:01,274 --> 00:39:03,433
Speaker 4: picked the Eagles in the six pack and I picked

889
00:39:03,433 --> 00:39:06,274
Speaker 4: the Bengals on Thursday. Now, I didn't know that t

890
00:39:06,393 --> 00:39:09,114
Speaker 4: Higgins wasn't going to play, and that impacted my my

891
00:39:09,234 --> 00:39:09,834
Speaker 4: Sunday pick.

892
00:39:09,913 --> 00:39:14,754
Speaker 9: But I also just wonder with the back to the emailer,

893
00:39:14,794 --> 00:39:19,714
Speaker 9: sorry for a second, but football, like, what what are

894
00:39:19,794 --> 00:39:22,113
Speaker 9: they tanking for this year?

895
00:39:22,154 --> 00:39:26,073
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody anybody who were they taking. That's

896
00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:26,553
Speaker 4: what I said.

897
00:39:26,554 --> 00:39:31,234
Speaker 9: So last year. If you embrace the tank for the quarterback,

898
00:39:31,354 --> 00:39:35,354
Speaker 9: then I totally understand. But they picked the quarterback and

899
00:39:35,393 --> 00:39:37,593
Speaker 9: we all think that he looks pretty good and it's

900
00:39:37,634 --> 00:39:38,714
Speaker 9: trending in the right direction.

901
00:39:38,953 --> 00:39:40,914
Speaker 4: That gives you freedom, So they don't need.

902
00:39:40,794 --> 00:39:44,794
Speaker 9: Another quarterback, So we're tanking for for Travis Hunter.

903
00:39:44,834 --> 00:39:47,513
Speaker 4: I haven't heard it. Maybe I'm just not listening to

904
00:39:47,514 --> 00:39:50,834
Speaker 4: the right people. I haven't heard people be upset with winning.

905
00:39:51,114 --> 00:39:52,873
Speaker 4: I haven't heard people say lose as many.

906
00:39:52,714 --> 00:39:57,033
Speaker 11: Games on your show for the draft pick, that's Felger. No,

907
00:39:57,393 --> 00:40:01,633
Speaker 11: the callers, but they really you've fallen for it. You're

908
00:40:01,674 --> 00:40:04,474
Speaker 11: falling for it. He's inventing it. No, they're not calling

909
00:40:04,514 --> 00:40:07,393
Speaker 11: in saying that on any consistent basis. He picks the

910
00:40:07,433 --> 00:40:11,354
Speaker 11: one guy that just did that, and he says, that's consensus. Okay,

911
00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:13,314
Speaker 11: I heard it.

912
00:40:13,433 --> 00:40:13,993
Speaker 4: I heard him.

913
00:40:13,994 --> 00:40:15,953
Speaker 3: Oh we should have lost the draft.

914
00:40:15,873 --> 00:40:19,913
Speaker 4: Because he's the one, Fred, he's the one. Trust me.

915
00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:22,513
Speaker 4: You don't want to be a zero, one or two

916
00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:26,033
Speaker 4: win team. Trust me on this? Well, I agree with him,

917
00:40:26,114 --> 00:40:29,634
Speaker 4: No you do. Yeah, Wow, that's really controversial. Take what

918
00:40:29,634 --> 00:40:31,154
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You don't think it's a good thing to

919
00:40:31,154 --> 00:40:32,434
Speaker 4: be two and fifteen.

920
00:40:32,114 --> 00:40:33,794
Speaker 3: Saying that there were callers that disagree.

921
00:40:33,913 --> 00:40:36,234
Speaker 4: We'll tell yeah, and I'm going to tell you out

922
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:40,194
Speaker 4: of their percentage of callers, there's like two. Okay, but

923
00:40:40,314 --> 00:40:42,354
Speaker 4: he makes it out to be all right. The other

924
00:40:42,473 --> 00:40:45,033
Speaker 4: wicks them, Oh we picked not only he picks them.

925
00:40:45,314 --> 00:40:49,474
Speaker 4: He accentuates, oh listen, and he creates that as consensus.

926
00:40:49,913 --> 00:40:51,114
Speaker 6: That sounds like the great OZ.

927
00:40:51,154 --> 00:40:53,754
Speaker 4: Because I don't know about you, Mike, but I think

928
00:40:53,794 --> 00:40:56,274
Speaker 4: it's really good if we only win one or two games.

929
00:40:56,314 --> 00:40:58,993
Speaker 4: That means we're a really good team. That's what all

930
00:40:58,994 --> 00:41:02,674
Speaker 4: the great teams do. Let's win two games. Trust me

931
00:41:02,714 --> 00:41:04,594
Speaker 4: on this mic. You don't want to be there. We

932
00:41:04,634 --> 00:41:06,274
Speaker 4: don't want to do that six or seven.

933
00:41:06,314 --> 00:41:08,473
Speaker 9: They wanted to lose sixteen games in a row. That's

934
00:41:08,473 --> 00:41:10,553
Speaker 9: why that's what everybody did.

935
00:41:11,234 --> 00:41:13,953
Speaker 4: Like Felger is the voice of reason, like he's the

936
00:41:13,953 --> 00:41:16,553
Speaker 4: one that had to teach us how it's better to

937
00:41:16,594 --> 00:41:19,474
Speaker 4: go fifteen and two than two and fifteen. It's you people,

938
00:41:19,634 --> 00:41:22,554
Speaker 4: because you people want you people want to lose.

939
00:41:22,873 --> 00:41:28,154
Speaker 3: Uping Fresno writes in uh subject line, thank you Jacoby Brissett.

940
00:41:28,554 --> 00:41:30,274
Speaker 6: There we go, go Fred.

941
00:41:30,274 --> 00:41:32,873
Speaker 3: If we're supposed to issue Matt Patricia a big thank you,

942
00:41:33,674 --> 00:41:35,594
Speaker 3: I'd say it's high time we did the same for

943
00:41:35,674 --> 00:41:42,114
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett. Sure, Rogers's post menopausal, but Perset manufactured a

944
00:41:42,154 --> 00:41:45,473
Speaker 3: win that might destroy the entire Jets organization, and did

945
00:41:45,514 --> 00:41:49,074
Speaker 3: so despite having the lumbering gait of Tom Barringer at

946
00:41:49,114 --> 00:41:53,874
Speaker 3: the end of Major League the movie broad a point

947
00:41:53,913 --> 00:41:56,794
Speaker 3: though the wins should be credited more to what Brissett

948
00:41:56,873 --> 00:41:59,794
Speaker 3: did on the field than to what Mayo previously said

949
00:41:59,794 --> 00:42:00,594
Speaker 3: on the podium.

950
00:42:00,994 --> 00:42:01,713
Speaker 4: I'm with Mike.

951
00:42:01,994 --> 00:42:04,994
Speaker 3: Maybe the team isn't baby bottom soft, but there's still

952
00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:08,554
Speaker 3: several viagras short of rock hard. They didn't really stop

953
00:42:08,594 --> 00:42:11,114
Speaker 3: the run we're doing here. Yeah, they really didn't stop

954
00:42:11,154 --> 00:42:12,913
Speaker 3: the run. The Jets didn't run as much as they

955
00:42:12,913 --> 00:42:15,474
Speaker 3: should have, so they ended up with less total rushing

956
00:42:15,554 --> 00:42:17,794
Speaker 3: yards and high yards per carry.

957
00:42:18,714 --> 00:42:19,834
Speaker 6: Yeah, can we put that?

958
00:42:19,913 --> 00:42:21,994
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I wasn't trying to take anything

959
00:42:21,994 --> 00:42:24,953
Speaker 8: away from the team's response and how they played. I

960
00:42:25,034 --> 00:42:27,954
Speaker 8: just didn't connect it directly to I think these comments

961
00:42:27,994 --> 00:42:30,953
Speaker 8: got blown up outside and everyone saw it as well,

962
00:42:30,953 --> 00:42:32,473
Speaker 8: they need to respond to this. I'm not sure that

963
00:42:32,473 --> 00:42:34,074
Speaker 8: they ever really felt like I listened.

964
00:42:33,834 --> 00:42:35,913
Speaker 6: To what key On White said. He wasn't going out

965
00:42:35,913 --> 00:42:39,194
Speaker 6: there feeling like in his mind thinking about what may A.

966
00:42:39,114 --> 00:42:40,873
Speaker 4: Couple of different team meetings about it.

967
00:42:41,433 --> 00:42:42,234
Speaker 9: That was about it.

968
00:42:42,274 --> 00:42:43,393
Speaker 4: They offered that to us.

969
00:42:44,794 --> 00:42:45,593
Speaker 9: Team meetings, though.

970
00:42:45,714 --> 00:42:47,433
Speaker 6: Was that about losing six in a row or was

971
00:42:47,473 --> 00:42:47,994
Speaker 6: that specific?

972
00:42:48,074 --> 00:42:50,194
Speaker 4: I think it was in the wagons. I think I

973
00:42:50,234 --> 00:42:51,074
Speaker 4: think it was the latter.

974
00:42:51,274 --> 00:42:53,873
Speaker 9: I think in some of it was about, you know,

975
00:42:53,913 --> 00:42:55,913
Speaker 9: some of the rumors that were going on with the

976
00:42:55,994 --> 00:42:58,834
Speaker 9: receiver room and like stuff like just it was more

977
00:42:59,074 --> 00:43:01,393
Speaker 9: it was more about like buttoning things down than I

978
00:43:01,433 --> 00:43:04,234
Speaker 9: think it was directly about Gid's comments.

979
00:43:04,393 --> 00:43:06,874
Speaker 4: I think it was all part of it. I totally

980
00:43:06,913 --> 00:43:08,993
Speaker 4: agree with you with the receivers. I think they wanted

981
00:43:09,034 --> 00:43:11,873
Speaker 4: to tighten things up a little bit. But the fact

982
00:43:11,913 --> 00:43:14,593
Speaker 4: that they felt important enough to have a meeting, and

983
00:43:14,873 --> 00:43:17,873
Speaker 4: I think Juwan Bentley addressed the team.

984
00:43:17,994 --> 00:43:21,074
Speaker 9: Jonathan Jones, Jonathan Jones, veteran guys.

985
00:43:21,473 --> 00:43:23,794
Speaker 4: Like that to me, tells me it wasn't just the media.

986
00:43:23,953 --> 00:43:25,513
Speaker 4: First of all, the media had nothing to do with it,

987
00:43:26,314 --> 00:43:27,234
Speaker 4: said it not the media.

988
00:43:27,314 --> 00:43:29,673
Speaker 3: The wide receiver room was a mess, and it still

989
00:43:29,754 --> 00:43:34,033
Speaker 3: might be, but it needed it needed something. And and

990
00:43:34,433 --> 00:43:35,794
Speaker 3: right there's still not playing well.

991
00:43:36,154 --> 00:43:38,754
Speaker 9: Let the four drops in this game, and and some

992
00:43:38,873 --> 00:43:41,114
Speaker 9: bad ones like two on third down and then obviously

993
00:43:41,154 --> 00:43:42,274
Speaker 9: Taekwan's drop, and.

994
00:43:42,314 --> 00:43:45,553
Speaker 4: So do you you guys, Mike, I'm sorry you're going

995
00:43:45,674 --> 00:43:48,913
Speaker 4: to drop, but you only you only grinded the defense

996
00:43:51,754 --> 00:43:57,473
Speaker 4: a couple of crossers, booty and borne business decisions.

997
00:43:58,634 --> 00:44:03,754
Speaker 9: I always hate going there, but because I alligator arms,

998
00:44:03,794 --> 00:44:06,954
Speaker 9: like you know, like like why where they protected themselves

999
00:44:07,194 --> 00:44:08,194
Speaker 9: because they were going to get hit?

1000
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:11,393
Speaker 4: Those are tough, Yeah, should have been. Yeah, it's but

1001
00:44:11,433 --> 00:44:13,354
Speaker 4: it's easy for us to say, just catch the ball.

1002
00:44:13,354 --> 00:44:14,434
Speaker 4: You're gonna get hit anyway.

1003
00:44:14,794 --> 00:44:17,234
Speaker 6: The board one was terrifying, the other one scary.

1004
00:44:17,354 --> 00:44:19,354
Speaker 4: That's what I'm asking you guys a chance to watch

1005
00:44:19,393 --> 00:44:19,834
Speaker 4: it again.

1006
00:44:20,114 --> 00:44:25,113
Speaker 9: The second booty one from Brissett just was he didn't

1007
00:44:25,473 --> 00:44:26,953
Speaker 9: l in the zone like that was more of like

1008
00:44:26,994 --> 00:44:29,194
Speaker 9: a route running issue than it was like there was

1009
00:44:29,234 --> 00:44:30,913
Speaker 9: a guy coming and he was going to take a hit.

1010
00:44:31,194 --> 00:44:34,513
Speaker 9: But the two incuts that they threw the booty and Bourne, uh,

1011
00:44:34,554 --> 00:44:36,674
Speaker 9: there is a guy flashing, and I do think that

1012
00:44:36,754 --> 00:44:40,034
Speaker 9: they might have sensed that. I hate the business decision label.

1013
00:44:40,074 --> 00:44:41,673
Speaker 4: But but you know what I mean, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1014
00:44:41,754 --> 00:44:42,354
Speaker 4: yeah yeah.

1015
00:44:43,393 --> 00:44:46,554
Speaker 3: Aaron's in Connecticut on the tpx houtline. What's up Aaron?

1016
00:44:47,154 --> 00:44:48,394
Speaker 4: Oh is gone?

1017
00:44:49,754 --> 00:44:52,714
Speaker 3: Then let's go to Baltimore where Rashad's on the line.

1018
00:44:52,754 --> 00:44:54,634
Speaker 3: What's up for shot?

1019
00:44:54,994 --> 00:44:55,234
Speaker 4: Hey?

1020
00:44:55,274 --> 00:44:55,634
Speaker 3: What's up?

1021
00:44:59,154 --> 00:45:02,634
Speaker 5: Well? I mean, first, let me just say I like

1022
00:45:02,794 --> 00:45:06,194
Speaker 5: the Jets. They they I mean, it's like we always

1023
00:45:06,194 --> 00:45:09,393
Speaker 5: in the season, So I guess I should have known

1024
00:45:09,393 --> 00:45:10,794
Speaker 5: that we would somehow.

1025
00:45:10,354 --> 00:45:11,433
Speaker 10: Someway win that game.

1026
00:45:11,554 --> 00:45:17,714
Speaker 5: But I'm calling because of the pretty much like the talent,

1027
00:45:17,834 --> 00:45:20,393
Speaker 5: but like the wide receiver was like I feel like

1028
00:45:20,433 --> 00:45:22,314
Speaker 5: we about to go through what we went through, like

1029
00:45:22,714 --> 00:45:24,794
Speaker 5: the last full year, the goal where we're going to

1030
00:45:24,834 --> 00:45:27,953
Speaker 5: have to try to believe in these wide receivers to develop,

1031
00:45:28,794 --> 00:45:31,594
Speaker 5: and I don't think none of them won't really develop

1032
00:45:31,674 --> 00:45:36,114
Speaker 5: to you know, anything special. So you know, it just sucks.

1033
00:45:36,314 --> 00:45:39,714
Speaker 5: It's like I had high hope for a lot of receivers,

1034
00:45:39,714 --> 00:45:42,674
Speaker 5: but I think at best, you know, they still it

1035
00:45:42,754 --> 00:45:47,634
Speaker 5: might be a two or three, but you know snow ones,

1036
00:45:47,834 --> 00:45:50,394
Speaker 5: you know the defense. You know, they try their best,

1037
00:45:50,794 --> 00:45:54,674
Speaker 5: but like we just not, they just don't have the talent,

1038
00:45:54,834 --> 00:45:57,354
Speaker 5: Like they just don't have the talent the speed. Like

1039
00:45:59,114 --> 00:46:02,754
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm glad they won, but like I'm not,

1040
00:46:02,913 --> 00:46:05,074
Speaker 5: I'm not and I'm not in the boat of tanking.

1041
00:46:05,154 --> 00:46:06,594
Speaker 5: I don't want them to tank, like I don't. I

1042
00:46:06,634 --> 00:46:08,194
Speaker 5: don't want to see them lose, Like I don't want

1043
00:46:08,194 --> 00:46:09,834
Speaker 5: to see them lose every game, Like I want to

1044
00:46:09,873 --> 00:46:14,754
Speaker 5: see them compete and win. Like I'm I'm a realist

1045
00:46:14,953 --> 00:46:17,593
Speaker 5: saying like like they're not good like they you know,

1046
00:46:18,354 --> 00:46:21,714
Speaker 5: Like I love Drake May. I definitely think he's the truth.

1047
00:46:21,754 --> 00:46:25,074
Speaker 5: He's the one we might got this one, but like

1048
00:46:25,554 --> 00:46:27,513
Speaker 5: we got it around him with Pama, Like we.

1049
00:46:27,554 --> 00:46:29,513
Speaker 3: Got We've got a lot of work to do in

1050
00:46:29,634 --> 00:46:32,754
Speaker 3: the offseason. Yeah, thanks for show. I appreciate the call.

1051
00:46:32,913 --> 00:46:34,634
Speaker 4: A lot to be excited about that.

1052
00:46:34,953 --> 00:46:37,794
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not like to like the receivers are what

1053
00:46:37,834 --> 00:46:40,953
Speaker 9: they are for this season, right, but if you have

1054
00:46:41,034 --> 00:46:42,114
Speaker 9: a quarterback.

1055
00:46:43,393 --> 00:46:45,553
Speaker 3: Right now, you had to make a decision, these are

1056
00:46:45,554 --> 00:46:47,593
Speaker 3: the guys we're going to keep from the receiver room.

1057
00:46:47,674 --> 00:46:48,354
Speaker 3: Who would it be?

1058
00:46:48,913 --> 00:46:49,754
Speaker 9: Pop Douglas?

1059
00:46:49,873 --> 00:46:51,913
Speaker 3: I would put him on my list.

1060
00:46:52,034 --> 00:46:55,153
Speaker 9: End of list, Like did I absolutely need to keep?

1061
00:46:55,354 --> 00:46:58,194
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you read like the X this week,

1062
00:46:58,754 --> 00:47:03,034
Speaker 3: like you know, Booty is now he's earned, he's earned

1063
00:47:03,034 --> 00:47:05,473
Speaker 3: what you know, a lot more reps and he has

1064
00:47:05,554 --> 00:47:07,434
Speaker 3: one he's on the he's on the rise.

1065
00:47:07,674 --> 00:47:10,993
Speaker 9: He has one really good vertical route of game. There's

1066
00:47:11,034 --> 00:47:13,873
Speaker 9: the deep ball in Jacksonville, the deep ball in Houston,

1067
00:47:14,074 --> 00:47:16,314
Speaker 9: the deep ball this week. He has one really good

1068
00:47:16,393 --> 00:47:21,754
Speaker 9: rout of game that doesn't make him. Starting receivers on

1069
00:47:21,834 --> 00:47:24,873
Speaker 9: other teams have six or seven of those routes a game,

1070
00:47:24,953 --> 00:47:27,794
Speaker 9: not just one. Yeah, you know, so like you're he's

1071
00:47:28,114 --> 00:47:30,473
Speaker 9: he's been fine. And I'm not trying to rag on

1072
00:47:30,514 --> 00:47:32,953
Speaker 9: the guy, but I think Douglas is the only guy

1073
00:47:32,953 --> 00:47:35,434
Speaker 9: that consistently separates every week.

1074
00:47:36,114 --> 00:47:37,354
Speaker 3: That was a question I got in the many one

1075
00:47:37,393 --> 00:47:39,754
Speaker 3: holding out hope for Pope that he can turn it around.

1076
00:47:39,834 --> 00:47:41,513
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so sure?

1077
00:47:41,913 --> 00:47:42,274
Speaker 4: Why not?

1078
00:47:42,554 --> 00:47:44,354
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I don't I mean, I don't have

1079
00:47:44,514 --> 00:47:47,354
Speaker 8: the question just because all these guys are gonna be

1080
00:47:47,354 --> 00:47:49,154
Speaker 8: back next year and they're gonna get a chance to compete.

1081
00:47:49,154 --> 00:47:50,834
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that they have to be the starters.

1082
00:47:51,074 --> 00:47:53,514
Speaker 6: They can get bumped down. But I don't is anybody

1083
00:47:53,594 --> 00:47:57,714
Speaker 6: realistically saying we're gonna cut Kendrick Horn, We're gonna cut kaishambui.

1084
00:47:57,834 --> 00:47:59,913
Speaker 3: Like, well, I think once camp comes around and if

1085
00:47:59,913 --> 00:48:00,993
Speaker 3: you do bring another.

1086
00:48:00,754 --> 00:48:03,714
Speaker 4: People, it'll let me know what happens in the off seats.

1087
00:48:03,554 --> 00:48:07,354
Speaker 6: Right right, But but not before that, right, No?

1088
00:48:07,194 --> 00:48:09,594
Speaker 3: No, no, well no, you're not gonna just before now.

1089
00:48:09,674 --> 00:48:12,314
Speaker 4: Before like those are the guys you have now? Yeah,

1090
00:48:12,834 --> 00:48:16,393
Speaker 4: but if you if you, if you draft, let's say

1091
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:18,314
Speaker 4: you drafted. I mean, I know that people don't want

1092
00:48:18,314 --> 00:48:19,993
Speaker 4: to hear this, and I probably don't want to hear

1093
00:48:20,034 --> 00:48:22,234
Speaker 4: it either. But let's say you draft someone in the

1094
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Speaker 4: top five, So you draft Travis Hunter and then maybe

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Speaker 4: you sign you know, a big time free agent t

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00:48:30,674 --> 00:48:35,153
Speaker 4: Higgins or someone someone else. Those four or five guys

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Speaker 4: that you're talking about aren't all going to be.

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Speaker 8: Here, right Douglas, And I put Polk in that mixed

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00:48:40,514 --> 00:48:42,834
Speaker 8: to him, I still have hope for him. What about Baker,

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Speaker 8: I don't have any hope for him.

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00:48:44,953 --> 00:48:48,834
Speaker 4: No, wow, really no hope. I haven't I heard that

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00:48:48,913 --> 00:48:53,114
Speaker 4: he's turn things around with dope. Not no hope.

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Speaker 9: I just it's dwindling. It's dwindling, Okay. I worry about

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00:49:00,114 --> 00:49:01,873
Speaker 9: some of the things that cause him to drop to

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Speaker 9: the fourth round.

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00:49:02,913 --> 00:49:05,354
Speaker 6: Put it that way, repeater, and those things have kind

1107
00:49:05,354 --> 00:49:07,354
Speaker 6: of carried over into the season.

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Speaker 3: And I would say, also going back to the game,

1109
00:49:12,354 --> 00:49:14,913
Speaker 3: I think Hunter Henry's maybe having the best season he's

1110
00:49:14,953 --> 00:49:16,074
Speaker 3: had since he was a Patriot.

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Speaker 9: He's outstanding in this game.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was really good Sunday. But I mean

1113
00:49:19,594 --> 00:49:20,393
Speaker 4: it's hard to top.

1114
00:49:20,554 --> 00:49:22,394
Speaker 3: I mean the numbers Foe are huge, but every catch

1115
00:49:22,514 --> 00:49:22,954
Speaker 3: was clutch.

1116
00:49:23,754 --> 00:49:26,473
Speaker 6: I thought he was offensive really good.

1117
00:49:26,594 --> 00:49:30,113
Speaker 9: I mean just drive starter on the game winning drive,

1118
00:49:30,433 --> 00:49:35,674
Speaker 9: which was tough catch he blocked well. I mean the

1119
00:49:35,714 --> 00:49:37,274
Speaker 9: goal line played at the end of the game, he

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Speaker 9: saves the game, you know, the right side of the line.

1121
00:49:40,154 --> 00:49:42,834
Speaker 9: They both lose their blocks. The nineteen million dollar guard

1122
00:49:43,074 --> 00:49:50,514
Speaker 9: again loses the block and Michael Jordan and Hunter Henry.

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Speaker 4: They did they did, They whiffed the practice. Jacobson on

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Speaker 4: when you whift.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, no.

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Speaker 8: I I kind of wanted to bring it up earlier,

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00:49:56,834 --> 00:49:58,953
Speaker 8: but we were in a positive phase of say, if

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Speaker 8: they had lost the game, it would have been like

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Speaker 8: how often piece people.

1130
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Speaker 4: Don't want to hear it. It's rare that they go

1131
00:50:07,554 --> 00:50:11,393
Speaker 4: every scoring play is subject to review, it's rare that

1132
00:50:11,433 --> 00:50:15,114
Speaker 4: they actually go to replay to review it. So it

1133
00:50:15,194 --> 00:50:18,113
Speaker 4: was close enough that the guys upstairs said, you guys

1134
00:50:18,194 --> 00:50:20,074
Speaker 4: might want to take a look at this. And the

1135
00:50:20,114 --> 00:50:22,714
Speaker 4: reason it was close is what Evan said. The two

1136
00:50:22,794 --> 00:50:25,993
Speaker 4: guys whiffed. Yeah, they both end up sort of on

1137
00:50:26,034 --> 00:50:28,114
Speaker 4: their stomachs and didn't hit anybody.

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Speaker 13: Only look excited to get back in the win column.

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00:52:07,594 --> 00:52:09,873
Speaker 13: Excited to get a win here at home. You know,

1169
00:52:09,913 --> 00:52:11,874
Speaker 13: I was a good football team you played against yesterday

1170
00:52:11,913 --> 00:52:14,234
Speaker 13: and presented a bunch of problems. As I said on Friday,

1171
00:52:15,594 --> 00:52:17,674
Speaker 13: you know, anytime you see Aaron Rodgers on the other

1172
00:52:17,714 --> 00:52:20,913
Speaker 13: side of the balls, you got to put four quarters

1173
00:52:20,953 --> 00:52:23,913
Speaker 13: in more if need. Be very proud of just the

1174
00:52:23,913 --> 00:52:26,834
Speaker 13: way the guys responded and saying that, you know, you

1175
00:52:26,873 --> 00:52:28,754
Speaker 13: watch the film and there were definitely still plays that

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00:52:28,834 --> 00:52:31,794
Speaker 13: we left out there at this time. Look, Drake is

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00:52:31,834 --> 00:52:34,074
Speaker 13: in the NFL concussion protocol, so I'm not going to

1178
00:52:34,154 --> 00:52:36,594
Speaker 13: get too much into that. As far as straight questions,

1179
00:52:37,794 --> 00:52:39,473
Speaker 13: what I told the guys in the locker room last

1180
00:52:39,554 --> 00:52:42,754
Speaker 13: night was, you know that next man up mentality.

1181
00:52:42,834 --> 00:52:44,393
Speaker 14: It doesn't matter what position you play.

1182
00:52:44,554 --> 00:52:48,794
Speaker 13: You could be a defensive linment, offensive linement, whatever, or

1183
00:52:48,834 --> 00:52:52,554
Speaker 13: a quarterback, which we saw yesterday. And kudos to jakobefore

1184
00:52:52,594 --> 00:52:55,073
Speaker 13: being ready to go when we needed them. I would

1185
00:52:55,074 --> 00:52:57,873
Speaker 13: say there was, you know, a couple of examples as

1186
00:52:57,873 --> 00:53:00,234
Speaker 13: far as complimentary football. You know we had to thrown

1187
00:53:00,234 --> 00:53:02,554
Speaker 13: out then a good punt return that led to a touchdown.

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00:53:03,473 --> 00:53:06,354
Speaker 13: That's that's the complimentary football we need to play if

1189
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Speaker 13: we want to be successful going forward.

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Speaker 14: And that's my message to the team and for.

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00:53:12,953 --> 00:53:18,514
Speaker 15: Questions, will suffer. Doug Kaite, followed by Mark Daniels. Good morning, Drudd.

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Speaker 16: We saw Joshua ushe was in active in yesterday's game

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00:53:23,393 --> 00:53:26,073
Speaker 16: despite not being on the injury re board. Was that

1194
00:53:27,074 --> 00:53:29,633
Speaker 16: related to the NFL trade deadline? Related to something else?

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00:53:29,674 --> 00:53:30,714
Speaker 16: What led to that decision?

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Speaker 13: It was just a healthy scratch and we also to put,

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00:53:34,034 --> 00:53:35,714
Speaker 13: you know, the best team out there that we think

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00:53:35,754 --> 00:53:36,953
Speaker 13: gives us the best chance to win.

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Speaker 15: Thank you, Next question, Mark Daniels follow like Chris Ryan.

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Speaker 14: Ed Rave, Good morning.

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00:53:46,074 --> 00:53:48,314
Speaker 2: Last last yesterday, it seemed like there were more drops

1202
00:53:48,314 --> 00:53:50,154
Speaker 2: than usual from the receiver group and a lot of

1203
00:53:50,154 --> 00:53:51,794
Speaker 2: the players admitted that after the game.

1204
00:53:51,913 --> 00:53:53,433
Speaker 15: Just was that a focused thing?

1205
00:53:53,514 --> 00:53:55,033
Speaker 2: You know, what what did you see from that group

1206
00:53:55,034 --> 00:53:56,913
Speaker 2: and what do they need to do here to respond

1207
00:53:56,913 --> 00:53:57,834
Speaker 2: and sort of get over that?

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00:53:58,393 --> 00:53:59,314
Speaker 14: They need to get better?

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00:53:59,674 --> 00:54:02,634
Speaker 13: And I mean those guys went out there and they

1210
00:54:02,674 --> 00:54:04,913
Speaker 13: were open at times, and you know, when you know,

1211
00:54:04,953 --> 00:54:06,794
Speaker 13: the job of a receiver is to get open and

1212
00:54:06,834 --> 00:54:08,834
Speaker 13: catch the ball. And if you're really good a run

1213
00:54:08,913 --> 00:54:11,513
Speaker 13: with it afterwards, so they definitely have to get better

1214
00:54:11,554 --> 00:54:12,314
Speaker 13: and they understand that.

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Speaker 14: Thank you, Thanks Chris Ryan.

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Speaker 15: Follow it to Courde Randall war are mon chrazy.

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Speaker 17: I want to ask you about the touchdown drive and

1218
00:54:23,873 --> 00:54:26,674
Speaker 17: you know the execution that you awe on that obviously

1219
00:54:26,794 --> 00:54:29,953
Speaker 17: you know we'll play seventy yards brings it down to

1220
00:54:31,114 --> 00:54:34,594
Speaker 17: twenty two seconds left overall on the drive. What what

1221
00:54:34,674 --> 00:54:37,234
Speaker 17: stood out to you and watching the film.

1222
00:54:38,234 --> 00:54:39,274
Speaker 14: Just the overall operation.

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00:54:39,514 --> 00:54:41,513
Speaker 13: You know, I joked about, you know on that drive

1224
00:54:41,554 --> 00:54:44,473
Speaker 13: before that drive started. Usually I don't give a VP

1225
00:54:44,913 --> 00:54:49,033
Speaker 13: any timeouts or anything like that going into a game

1226
00:54:49,074 --> 00:54:49,553
Speaker 13: win drive.

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00:54:49,594 --> 00:54:50,913
Speaker 14: And I thought those guys went out there and next

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00:54:50,913 --> 00:54:52,754
Speaker 14: secute it well.

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Speaker 15: Thanks Thanks court Randell, Felt Bry Mike Reese.

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Speaker 14: Good roun.

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Speaker 18: It looked like it looked like Drake he might have

1232
00:55:01,234 --> 00:55:03,234
Speaker 18: been slow to get up after the hit and was

1233
00:55:03,274 --> 00:55:05,834
Speaker 18: moving slowly between plays. Just wanting did you see any

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00:55:05,873 --> 00:55:08,834
Speaker 18: warning signs from him after the hit? And you know,

1235
00:55:08,873 --> 00:55:10,794
Speaker 18: what was the conversation like with him before he went

1236
00:55:10,834 --> 00:55:11,674
Speaker 18: into the medical tent.

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Speaker 13: I did not, you know, I was surprised when when

1238
00:55:16,114 --> 00:55:17,874
Speaker 13: Whalan told me he had to go to the medical

1239
00:55:17,913 --> 00:55:20,873
Speaker 13: tent because he threw a couple of good balls afterwards,

1240
00:55:20,913 --> 00:55:24,354
Speaker 13: and I thought he was still pretty sharp in those regards.

1241
00:55:24,433 --> 00:55:26,354
Speaker 13: But you know, I so it's above my pay grade

1242
00:55:26,393 --> 00:55:27,953
Speaker 13: as far as like pulling them out of the game

1243
00:55:27,994 --> 00:55:29,994
Speaker 13: and putting them in the protocol.

1244
00:55:32,074 --> 00:55:35,114
Speaker 15: Expression. Mike Breese follower tiv Kyles.

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Speaker 4: Morn and draw.

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Speaker 19: Can you can you just repeat what you mentioned about

1247
00:55:39,913 --> 00:55:42,433
Speaker 19: the before the final drive with a VP, that you

1248
00:55:42,514 --> 00:55:45,314
Speaker 19: usually don't give them timeouts or I didn't quite follow

1249
00:55:45,354 --> 00:55:45,673
Speaker 19: you there.

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00:55:45,794 --> 00:55:47,393
Speaker 14: What did you I was saying?

1251
00:55:47,433 --> 00:55:49,993
Speaker 13: In practice, sorry, in practice, we go through that situation,

1252
00:55:51,393 --> 00:55:54,593
Speaker 13: you know, multiple times a week, and usually I say,

1253
00:55:54,594 --> 00:55:56,993
Speaker 13: all right, it's a minute with no timeouts, and we

1254
00:55:57,074 --> 00:55:59,033
Speaker 13: operate that way, so we do get time outs.

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00:55:59,034 --> 00:56:03,314
Speaker 14: It's a it's a it's a it's a bonus for him, gotcha. Gotcha.

1256
00:56:03,634 --> 00:56:07,834
Speaker 19: Thanks for clarifying that. And and the touchdown run to

1257
00:56:07,953 --> 00:56:10,513
Speaker 19: win the game when you went back to watch it,

1258
00:56:10,554 --> 00:56:12,194
Speaker 19: I'm curious what you saw.

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00:56:13,194 --> 00:56:15,114
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's the same thing I said last night, where

1260
00:56:15,754 --> 00:56:17,234
Speaker 13: you know, there comes a point in time where everyone

1261
00:56:17,274 --> 00:56:18,834
Speaker 13: knows you're going to run the ball and you got

1262
00:56:18,873 --> 00:56:21,073
Speaker 13: to beat the man across from you. And I've never

1263
00:56:21,194 --> 00:56:23,194
Speaker 13: wavered and saying that reminder is one of the best

1264
00:56:23,274 --> 00:56:24,993
Speaker 13: backs in the league, and why not give it to him.

1265
00:56:24,994 --> 00:56:27,554
Speaker 13: We should give it to him in that situation, and

1266
00:56:28,074 --> 00:56:29,834
Speaker 13: the offense capitalized.

1267
00:56:29,994 --> 00:56:32,913
Speaker 15: And then one quick fault. Just theme wise on the

1268
00:56:32,913 --> 00:56:33,514
Speaker 15: same topic.

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00:56:33,554 --> 00:56:37,354
Speaker 19: You had seven offensive linemen on the field on that

1270
00:56:37,473 --> 00:56:43,633
Speaker 19: play with Thomas and City coming City as the fullback right.

1271
00:56:44,794 --> 00:56:47,913
Speaker 19: We also saw Lasidas actually in the first play of

1272
00:56:47,913 --> 00:56:50,274
Speaker 19: the game, you know, but he come in and a

1273
00:56:50,674 --> 00:56:53,554
Speaker 19: like offset there in the backfield. What was the thought

1274
00:56:53,554 --> 00:56:56,274
Speaker 19: process obviously in the last play or just power right

1275
00:56:56,834 --> 00:56:59,153
Speaker 19: with the but what was the thought process on using

1276
00:56:59,154 --> 00:57:00,513
Speaker 19: some of the offensive linement like that.

1277
00:57:01,114 --> 00:57:02,874
Speaker 14: No, I think you bring up a great point.

1278
00:57:02,953 --> 00:57:06,113
Speaker 13: You know, what was perceived I would say earlier on

1279
00:57:06,194 --> 00:57:08,354
Speaker 13: as a weakness on this team has now become a strength.

1280
00:57:08,354 --> 00:57:10,873
Speaker 13: And that has been through you know, Elliott, his team

1281
00:57:10,873 --> 00:57:12,754
Speaker 13: and the acquisition of guys like Lasidas.

1282
00:57:12,794 --> 00:57:16,193
Speaker 14: And this is one of those guys that practice is hard.

1283
00:57:16,354 --> 00:57:18,794
Speaker 13: He's a great professional off the field as well, and

1284
00:57:19,234 --> 00:57:21,153
Speaker 13: you know, we felt good putting those guys in to

1285
00:57:21,314 --> 00:57:23,874
Speaker 13: move the to move the offense. Sorry the movie defensive linemen,

1286
00:57:23,874 --> 00:57:24,514
Speaker 13: and they did that.

1287
00:57:27,274 --> 00:57:31,593
Speaker 15: Taylor Kyle's follower, Sophie Walder coach, thank you for your

1288
00:57:31,634 --> 00:57:33,554
Speaker 15: time with Marcus Jones.

1289
00:57:33,554 --> 00:57:35,394
Speaker 18: It seemed like he played outside more than we've seen

1290
00:57:35,514 --> 00:57:37,274
Speaker 18: in a while matching up with Garrett Wilson.

1291
00:57:37,314 --> 00:57:38,154
Speaker 14: I was wondering what was.

1292
00:57:38,074 --> 00:57:40,754
Speaker 18: The thought process about that matchup and also how did

1293
00:57:40,754 --> 00:57:42,754
Speaker 18: you feel that win because obviously gave up some catches

1294
00:57:42,794 --> 00:57:43,914
Speaker 18: but also made some plays in the.

1295
00:57:43,914 --> 00:57:45,954
Speaker 14: Matchup as well. That's a great question, Taylor.

1296
00:57:45,994 --> 00:57:49,914
Speaker 13: I would say, there's no secret they liked that matchup

1297
00:57:50,594 --> 00:57:54,034
Speaker 13: against twenty five and they went after him quite a bit,

1298
00:57:54,114 --> 00:57:56,354
Speaker 13: and just like you said, he made some plays and

1299
00:57:56,634 --> 00:57:58,314
Speaker 13: gave up some players, But at the same time, I

1300
00:57:58,314 --> 00:58:00,994
Speaker 13: would say, just that dog mentality of being able to

1301
00:58:01,034 --> 00:58:03,474
Speaker 13: get up and go again the next rep.

1302
00:58:03,514 --> 00:58:06,034
Speaker 14: I thought he. I thought Marcus definitely displayed that. Yes, sir,

1303
00:58:06,954 --> 00:58:07,434
Speaker 14: Thank you.

1304
00:58:08,834 --> 00:58:11,394
Speaker 15: Have two final questions. Sophie Waller and Chris.

1305
00:58:11,274 --> 00:58:16,154
Speaker 20: Ryan Hid congrats on the win.

1306
00:58:16,554 --> 00:58:16,754
Speaker 14: Thanks.

1307
00:58:16,754 --> 00:58:20,234
Speaker 20: So I was curious we kind of saw Javon Baker

1308
00:58:20,714 --> 00:58:24,554
Speaker 20: back returning was a kick returns, which was kind of

1309
00:58:24,554 --> 00:58:26,834
Speaker 20: a new role for him him. What did you see

1310
00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:30,194
Speaker 20: from him there and how do you feel he's progressing

1311
00:58:30,234 --> 00:58:32,994
Speaker 20: to maybe get some opportunities as well with that wide

1312
00:58:33,034 --> 00:58:34,314
Speaker 20: receiver group in the game.

1313
00:58:34,674 --> 00:58:37,234
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, one opportunity to run back a kick. Obviously

1314
00:58:37,274 --> 00:58:40,034
Speaker 13: it was it was disappointing, but it wasn't just him.

1315
00:58:40,114 --> 00:58:42,474
Speaker 13: It was also just the block and up front, this

1316
00:58:42,554 --> 00:58:44,674
Speaker 13: guy is very explosive with the ball in his hands,

1317
00:58:44,674 --> 00:58:47,354
Speaker 13: and we have to as coaches, you know, when the

1318
00:58:47,394 --> 00:58:50,113
Speaker 13: solution based business find ways to get him the wall.

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00:58:52,394 --> 00:58:53,754
Speaker 15: And last question, Chris roy.

1320
00:58:55,594 --> 00:58:56,914
Speaker 17: Kid, I want to ask you about a couple of

1321
00:58:56,954 --> 00:59:00,633
Speaker 17: guys and how they've responded to to adversity this year

1322
00:59:00,674 --> 00:59:03,634
Speaker 17: and Ormandre obviously the game winning run, and also Yo

1323
00:59:03,714 --> 00:59:07,394
Speaker 17: Jacobe Rissette and how he's handled things. What have you

1324
00:59:07,394 --> 00:59:10,914
Speaker 17: seen from both of those individuals behind the scenes and

1325
00:59:10,954 --> 00:59:12,754
Speaker 17: how do they kind of set the tone when it

1326
00:59:12,754 --> 00:59:15,794
Speaker 17: comes to, you know, what type of sacrifices need to

1327
00:59:15,834 --> 00:59:16,394
Speaker 17: be made.

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00:59:16,714 --> 00:59:17,954
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'll started with Mandre.

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00:59:19,314 --> 00:59:22,674
Speaker 13: Look, you know, obviously early in the season he had

1330
00:59:22,674 --> 00:59:24,554
Speaker 13: a hard time keeping the ball right, so as far

1331
00:59:24,594 --> 00:59:27,034
Speaker 13: as fumbles and things like that are concerned, and you know,

1332
00:59:27,074 --> 00:59:29,194
Speaker 13: he had been going through some things, you know, also

1333
00:59:29,274 --> 00:59:31,314
Speaker 13: off the field, and I just I tipped my hat

1334
00:59:31,354 --> 00:59:33,114
Speaker 13: to a guy like that who's able to once he

1335
00:59:33,154 --> 00:59:36,314
Speaker 13: crosses the white line, nothing else really matters. And so

1336
00:59:36,434 --> 00:59:38,874
Speaker 13: proud of him and what he's what he's been able

1337
00:59:38,914 --> 00:59:41,474
Speaker 13: to do. And Jacoby is just you know, we said

1338
00:59:41,474 --> 00:59:44,474
Speaker 13: this the ultimate professional, also a tough guy that is

1339
00:59:44,514 --> 00:59:46,194
Speaker 13: able to go out there and operate the offense, and

1340
00:59:46,474 --> 00:59:47,354
Speaker 13: we're bust to have him.

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00:59:48,714 --> 00:59:51,314
Speaker 14: Thank you, Thanks.

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00:59:50,194 --> 00:59:55,474
Speaker 9: Everyone, and now great moments.

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00:59:57,434 --> 00:59:57,874
Speaker 3: History.

1344
00:59:58,034 --> 01:00:00,834
Speaker 4: Sometimes like that was a regular argument that was fine, yeah,

1345
01:00:00,874 --> 01:00:02,954
Speaker 4: but there are times that we get like sort of upset.

1346
01:00:02,954 --> 01:00:05,674
Speaker 4: We started yelling, well, it's great, and it's not. Really.

1347
01:00:05,794 --> 01:00:08,434
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the best moments of the show.

1348
01:00:08,514 --> 01:00:11,314
Speaker 3: If you're yelling over each other as a listener, you

1349
01:00:12,274 --> 01:00:14,514
Speaker 3: literally can't hear what people are saying.

1350
01:00:15,554 --> 01:00:17,354
Speaker 4: There are times I know this is going to surprise

1351
01:00:17,394 --> 01:00:19,914
Speaker 4: some people, but when I have an argument with you

1352
01:00:21,514 --> 01:00:23,874
Speaker 4: that I'm embarrassed about it afterwards, well you should and

1353
01:00:23,954 --> 01:00:26,674
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily some of you stance. I don't necessarily.

1354
01:00:30,434 --> 01:00:32,954
Speaker 4: Actually I'm surprised. I can't believe I'm losing to this guy.

1355
01:00:34,954 --> 01:00:37,274
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 3: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered eighty five five

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01:00:41,914 --> 01:00:46,954
Speaker 3: past five hundred is the TPX hotline. Patriot Podcasts at

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01:00:46,994 --> 01:00:50,034
Speaker 3: patriots dot com is the email address. I got a

1359
01:00:50,074 --> 01:00:53,874
Speaker 3: new laptop you know it, every you know, ten years

1360
01:00:53,914 --> 01:00:56,474
Speaker 3: tells you you have to upgrade your laptop. So I

1361
01:00:56,554 --> 01:01:01,114
Speaker 3: did that, and I had to rebuild like every password

1362
01:01:01,154 --> 01:01:04,713
Speaker 3: that I have, and like everything everything happen.

1363
01:01:04,714 --> 01:01:05,874
Speaker 4: You're telling me, I'm gonna wait for them.

1364
01:01:06,154 --> 01:01:10,234
Speaker 3: My life is on that you know laptop and every

1365
01:01:10,274 --> 01:01:12,914
Speaker 3: password to every site that runs my life. I had to,

1366
01:01:13,834 --> 01:01:17,593
Speaker 3: you know, put in So where did I put that password? So?

1367
01:01:17,874 --> 01:01:20,274
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, the best thing to do is

1368
01:01:20,394 --> 01:01:22,994
Speaker 4: you get you get out like a packet of like

1369
01:01:23,354 --> 01:01:26,194
Speaker 4: post it notes. Yeah, write them all on sticky notes.

1370
01:01:26,394 --> 01:01:27,794
Speaker 4: That's how you do it, and then just put them

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01:01:27,834 --> 01:01:29,874
Speaker 4: up all over all over your work area.

1372
01:01:29,874 --> 01:01:30,994
Speaker 3: I hope not listening.

1373
01:01:31,074 --> 01:01:32,994
Speaker 4: That's the safe That's the safest way to go. But

1374
01:01:33,274 --> 01:01:34,434
Speaker 4: he did, You'll never forget them.

1375
01:01:34,474 --> 01:01:35,714
Speaker 6: Do an online seminar for that.

1376
01:01:36,434 --> 01:01:38,154
Speaker 9: I have my notes app on my phone.

1377
01:01:38,274 --> 01:01:39,354
Speaker 4: I have some like that.

1378
01:01:40,314 --> 01:01:43,034
Speaker 3: I like when I get attachments from people I don't know,

1379
01:01:43,074 --> 01:01:44,394
Speaker 3: I like to see what they are.

1380
01:01:44,474 --> 01:01:46,834
Speaker 4: I generally try to open up, like what is it?

1381
01:01:46,874 --> 01:01:47,034
Speaker 5: You know?

1382
01:01:47,074 --> 01:01:49,234
Speaker 9: I just curious attachments.

1383
01:01:49,274 --> 01:01:53,153
Speaker 6: How do you remember the passwords to your passwords? Yeah,

1384
01:01:53,594 --> 01:01:54,274
Speaker 6: it's only one.

1385
01:01:54,754 --> 01:01:59,394
Speaker 4: That's another word for the social recognition wicked smart. Yeah, Yeah,

1386
01:01:59,434 --> 01:02:02,834
Speaker 4: the facial wreck. Is that that's that's a good, good advancement.

1387
01:02:03,274 --> 01:02:10,154
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice tech, yeah, Norman writes. In Norman, he says,

1388
01:02:10,234 --> 01:02:13,514
Speaker 3: I was disappointed when Bill was relieved of his duties

1389
01:02:13,514 --> 01:02:16,434
Speaker 3: with the Patriots. But the more I hear him on

1390
01:02:16,474 --> 01:02:19,674
Speaker 3: all the shows that he appears on, the more respect

1391
01:02:19,834 --> 01:02:23,073
Speaker 3: I lose. I know everyone has their own opinion, but

1392
01:02:23,154 --> 01:02:25,874
Speaker 3: to go on what seems like a bash the people

1393
01:02:26,234 --> 01:02:29,274
Speaker 3: have wronged me tour, I think it's kind of hypocritical

1394
01:02:29,314 --> 01:02:31,914
Speaker 3: for a guy that despised the media as much as

1395
01:02:31,954 --> 01:02:34,514
Speaker 3: he did to go around praising only people he likes.

1396
01:02:34,794 --> 01:02:38,754
Speaker 3: My opinion, he's losing credibility there you go.

1397
01:02:38,834 --> 01:02:39,154
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1398
01:02:39,154 --> 01:02:40,994
Speaker 8: I haven't I don't feel like I've watched enough of

1399
01:02:41,034 --> 01:02:44,954
Speaker 8: it to really say that. I mean, I've seen the highlights,

1400
01:02:44,954 --> 01:02:46,834
Speaker 8: but the highlights that are always put in my face.

1401
01:02:46,634 --> 01:02:48,034
Speaker 6: Are what he says about the Patriots.

1402
01:02:48,274 --> 01:02:50,554
Speaker 9: Yeah, I admit that That's part of it, is that

1403
01:02:50,994 --> 01:02:53,354
Speaker 9: what's going to get picked up is the negative stuff

1404
01:02:53,434 --> 01:02:56,194
Speaker 9: or this stuff for Patriots related or what.

1405
01:02:56,274 --> 01:02:57,073
Speaker 3: I don't really care.

1406
01:02:57,354 --> 01:02:59,554
Speaker 4: I think we're all I'm smack dab in the middle

1407
01:02:59,554 --> 01:03:02,874
Speaker 4: of fifty on that female like. I think He's right.

1408
01:03:02,954 --> 01:03:06,874
Speaker 4: I think he's hypocritical. He is oh as anti media

1409
01:03:06,954 --> 01:03:09,274
Speaker 4: as he was throughout his coaching career for him to

1410
01:03:09,314 --> 01:03:13,434
Speaker 4: have so many media jobs now at the same time,

1411
01:03:13,554 --> 01:03:17,634
Speaker 4: like you know, the whole on this crusade against you know,

1412
01:03:17,634 --> 01:03:21,154
Speaker 4: people that wronged him. I mean, I can't understand how

1413
01:03:21,194 --> 01:03:25,034
Speaker 4: he feels. Yeah, and he wasn't wronged because he was

1414
01:03:25,074 --> 01:03:29,714
Speaker 4: like go, it's kind of what's happened since. And you know,

1415
01:03:29,754 --> 01:03:32,394
Speaker 4: I can understand how he feels now. I think he's

1416
01:03:32,434 --> 01:03:37,514
Speaker 4: always been hypocritical in terms of, you know, it's okay

1417
01:03:37,554 --> 01:03:40,914
Speaker 4: for him to say and do things or change his

1418
01:03:40,954 --> 01:03:44,074
Speaker 4: agenda as he goes. But you know, the media was

1419
01:03:44,074 --> 01:03:47,154
Speaker 4: always getting called out for that, you know. So I'm

1420
01:03:47,234 --> 01:03:49,714
Speaker 4: kind of half and half line. I see the stuff

1421
01:03:49,754 --> 01:03:51,634
Speaker 4: that I've been very critical of, some of the stuff

1422
01:03:51,634 --> 01:03:54,274
Speaker 4: that Bill has said. You know, didn't have anything good

1423
01:03:54,274 --> 01:03:57,434
Speaker 4: to say about how buttoned down the Patriots looked in

1424
01:03:57,474 --> 01:04:00,914
Speaker 4: Week one, you know, and you know, they avoided penalties,

1425
01:04:00,914 --> 01:04:03,794
Speaker 4: they avoided turnovers, they won the game exactly the way

1426
01:04:03,794 --> 01:04:06,674
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick always wanted to win games, right, and he

1427
01:04:06,714 --> 01:04:09,074
Speaker 4: didn't say word one about it, and then all of

1428
01:04:09,114 --> 01:04:12,194
Speaker 4: a sudden they start doing a couple of things strategically

1429
01:04:12,234 --> 01:04:15,354
Speaker 4: that you know, Drew second guesses and he was right

1430
01:04:15,394 --> 01:04:16,234
Speaker 4: there to pile on.

1431
01:04:16,314 --> 01:04:19,274
Speaker 3: So I get both sides are a little butt hurt.

1432
01:04:19,314 --> 01:04:24,434
Speaker 3: They're very oversensitive, but you know, you know, Patriots fans,

1433
01:04:24,474 --> 01:04:29,274
Speaker 3: he's not coming He's not coming back, so get over it.

1434
01:04:29,314 --> 01:04:32,114
Speaker 8: I just wonder, like, you know, Paul, we do our shows.

1435
01:04:32,154 --> 01:04:34,034
Speaker 8: We have the The Patriots on Filter on TV, which

1436
01:04:34,074 --> 01:04:35,954
Speaker 8: I hope everyone watches. But then we do these shows,

1437
01:04:35,954 --> 01:04:37,794
Speaker 8: and we do the pregame in the post game show

1438
01:04:37,834 --> 01:04:40,514
Speaker 8: and sometimes you said earlier, you make different picks when

1439
01:04:40,514 --> 01:04:42,514
Speaker 8: we do picks, and I do the same. But it

1440
01:04:42,594 --> 01:04:45,114
Speaker 8: must be hard for Bill to keep track of everything

1441
01:04:45,114 --> 01:04:47,073
Speaker 8: he says and what you know, and and keep track

1442
01:04:47,114 --> 01:04:48,834
Speaker 8: of all the people that he maybe wants to highlight

1443
01:04:48,914 --> 01:04:50,074
Speaker 8: or people that he doesn't want to highlight.

1444
01:04:50,074 --> 01:04:52,954
Speaker 6: A right, Well, he's got like six different shows, like

1445
01:04:52,954 --> 01:04:53,354
Speaker 6: how do you.

1446
01:04:53,314 --> 01:04:55,354
Speaker 8: Remember, like, well, I can't go too hard on the

1447
01:04:55,354 --> 01:04:56,994
Speaker 8: Patriots here because I killed him in this show, or

1448
01:04:57,034 --> 01:04:59,514
Speaker 8: you know, because it does he even think about it

1449
01:04:59,514 --> 01:05:01,593
Speaker 8: that way, or you know, like I can't imagine.

1450
01:05:01,234 --> 01:05:04,474
Speaker 3: Having question all show keeps a question everything.

1451
01:05:04,074 --> 01:05:07,834
Speaker 8: You know, he's especially being on with you know, favorable

1452
01:05:07,834 --> 01:05:09,034
Speaker 8: people Matty p and A.

1453
01:05:12,194 --> 01:05:14,914
Speaker 4: I tease Mike Lombardi a lot too, but I think

1454
01:05:14,994 --> 01:05:18,474
Speaker 4: he sort of he comes in like wreaking of kerosene.

1455
01:05:18,514 --> 01:05:21,073
Speaker 4: He wants to he wants to light the fire. He want,

1456
01:05:21,314 --> 01:05:23,073
Speaker 4: he knows where they want to go, and I think

1457
01:05:23,314 --> 01:05:24,394
Speaker 4: and it's not good for.

1458
01:05:24,394 --> 01:05:26,633
Speaker 3: Him, and they've had co Like you know, I'm sure

1459
01:05:26,674 --> 01:05:28,474
Speaker 3: Lombardi talks to Bill and it's like.

1460
01:05:28,914 --> 01:05:30,634
Speaker 4: You can't believe what they said about you.

1461
01:05:30,754 --> 01:05:33,554
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna straighten that out, you know.

1462
01:05:35,314 --> 01:05:37,194
Speaker 9: Stuff that like that type of stuff. I tried not

1463
01:05:37,194 --> 01:05:39,954
Speaker 9: to let bother me, but the thing bothered me because

1464
01:05:39,954 --> 01:05:42,153
Speaker 9: it was like, you literally had the opportunity to trade

1465
01:05:42,154 --> 01:05:45,234
Speaker 9: this player last year, and he didn't take the opportunity,

1466
01:05:45,474 --> 01:05:48,394
Speaker 9: and now you're killing them because his value is is

1467
01:05:48,594 --> 01:05:50,754
Speaker 9: been hurt and so now they got less of a return.

1468
01:05:50,794 --> 01:05:52,554
Speaker 4: But I would also say too, like you know, to

1469
01:05:52,594 --> 01:05:58,154
Speaker 4: your point of these trade deadline deals almost never end

1470
01:05:58,234 --> 01:06:00,234
Speaker 4: up going down for what people think they're gonna go

1471
01:06:00,314 --> 01:06:03,113
Speaker 4: down for, except for him who gave up a second

1472
01:06:03,194 --> 01:06:06,114
Speaker 4: round hit for Mohammed Sanu, Right, you know, like DeAndre

1473
01:06:06,194 --> 01:06:09,594
Speaker 4: Hopkins got a fifth right, you know, like you're telling me,

1474
01:06:09,634 --> 01:06:12,874
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins even now wasn't more valuable than Mohammed Sanu

1475
01:06:12,954 --> 01:06:15,954
Speaker 4: was when they acquired him. Right, So just because you

1476
01:06:16,314 --> 01:06:18,874
Speaker 4: don't read the market properly doesn't mean that that was

1477
01:06:18,914 --> 01:06:20,754
Speaker 4: a terrible trade for a sixth round pick.

1478
01:06:20,874 --> 01:06:24,394
Speaker 9: Yep, Yeah, I just his J's value was at its

1479
01:06:24,434 --> 01:06:27,634
Speaker 9: highest point last year. He's coming off the twenty twenty

1480
01:06:27,674 --> 01:06:30,794
Speaker 9: two season, and he had some value at that point.

1481
01:06:30,994 --> 01:06:33,114
Speaker 9: And if you wanted to sell high on the asset,

1482
01:06:33,194 --> 01:06:35,554
Speaker 9: it was to trade him at the deadline last year

1483
01:06:35,834 --> 01:06:37,754
Speaker 9: or even before the season last year, if you knew

1484
01:06:37,754 --> 01:06:40,194
Speaker 9: you weren't going to resign him and instead I don't

1485
01:06:40,194 --> 01:06:42,554
Speaker 9: know where his head was at on that one. You know,

1486
01:06:42,674 --> 01:06:43,714
Speaker 9: only he can answer that.

1487
01:06:44,074 --> 01:06:45,593
Speaker 3: But like you said, it could have been I want

1488
01:06:45,594 --> 01:06:48,153
Speaker 3: to win as many games as possible, yeah, or maybe

1489
01:06:48,434 --> 01:06:51,434
Speaker 3: given up already. I don't want to hurt the defense.

1490
01:06:51,714 --> 01:06:53,194
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, Because.

1491
01:06:53,114 --> 01:06:55,714
Speaker 3: It sounded like you could have couldn't have cared less

1492
01:06:55,754 --> 01:06:58,633
Speaker 3: about the offense. Yeah, you know the way last year

1493
01:06:58,794 --> 01:07:02,234
Speaker 3: looked like it too, Johnny and Matdtown writes in at

1494
01:07:02,274 --> 01:07:05,914
Speaker 3: podcast at Patriots dot Com. Halloween yay or nay? Game?

1495
01:07:06,234 --> 01:07:06,674
Speaker 4: You ready?

1496
01:07:06,954 --> 01:07:07,234
Speaker 6: Okay?

1497
01:07:07,474 --> 01:07:09,954
Speaker 3: Real simple? Do you like it? Or not one the

1498
01:07:09,994 --> 01:07:13,073
Speaker 3: original movie from nineteen seventy eight, Halloween. Yeah.

1499
01:07:13,234 --> 01:07:14,314
Speaker 9: I don't like scary movies.

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01:07:15,114 --> 01:07:17,314
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of okay, kind of like Evan.

1501
01:07:17,594 --> 01:07:23,434
Speaker 3: Candy corn noay, nay. Absolutely, haunted houses, corn mazes, Nope, nay.

1502
01:07:23,994 --> 01:07:26,474
Speaker 3: I like corn maze house is yay. No, they creep

1503
01:07:26,554 --> 01:07:28,914
Speaker 3: me out, man, those haunted houses. Don't get in my space.

1504
01:07:29,434 --> 01:07:29,754
Speaker 4: I don't.

1505
01:07:29,834 --> 01:07:34,834
Speaker 3: I don't like. Yeah, decorate your house yeay, yay. Yeah,

1506
01:07:35,154 --> 01:07:36,554
Speaker 3: you decorate your house for Halloween.

1507
01:07:36,594 --> 01:07:37,714
Speaker 4: But do you think I do it?

1508
01:07:37,874 --> 01:07:38,073
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1509
01:07:38,274 --> 01:07:40,394
Speaker 4: No, But I like the fact that it's done.

1510
01:07:40,554 --> 01:07:44,114
Speaker 3: Okay, you like it? I have people like you like

1511
01:07:44,194 --> 01:07:45,394
Speaker 3: having your house decorated?

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01:07:45,474 --> 01:07:49,034
Speaker 4: I do, Okay. Christmas, oh absolutely, okay. I'm a little

1513
01:07:49,034 --> 01:07:50,674
Speaker 4: bit more involved with the Christmas setup.

1514
01:07:50,714 --> 01:07:55,954
Speaker 3: But in terms of the drum roll, in terms of

1515
01:07:55,954 --> 01:07:58,874
Speaker 3: what you like better Christmas or Halloween.

1516
01:07:58,434 --> 01:08:01,154
Speaker 4: Oh, Christmas, Christmas, love Christmas.

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01:08:01,194 --> 01:08:02,394
Speaker 9: That doesn't apply to me, right.

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01:08:03,234 --> 01:08:05,554
Speaker 3: I hope it was okay? As long as there's no

1519
01:08:05,674 --> 01:08:07,994
Speaker 3: risk of long term issues. This is likely just a

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01:08:08,034 --> 01:08:10,434
Speaker 3: mild bump in the road in a season that's only

1521
01:08:10,434 --> 01:08:14,394
Speaker 3: about development. Anyway, misses this week and hopefully back for

1522
01:08:14,474 --> 01:08:18,034
Speaker 3: the next game. Patriots win again this Sunday twenty one,

1523
01:08:18,154 --> 01:08:20,073
Speaker 3: seventeen with a pick six mixed in.

1524
01:08:20,674 --> 01:08:21,274
Speaker 4: That'd be nice.

1525
01:08:21,314 --> 01:08:22,314
Speaker 3: I haven't had one of those.

1526
01:08:22,474 --> 01:08:25,914
Speaker 8: My lovely wife dropped her iPhone in a corn Mas

1527
01:08:25,994 --> 01:08:30,314
Speaker 8: once and it was just ridiculous trying to find it,

1528
01:08:30,394 --> 01:08:33,034
Speaker 8: like because we didn't have before track my iPhone. It

1529
01:08:33,074 --> 01:08:36,273
Speaker 8: was it's like walking through a corn Mas calling the phone,

1530
01:08:36,394 --> 01:08:39,034
Speaker 8: like trying to listen. You can't even find your way

1531
01:08:39,074 --> 01:08:40,954
Speaker 8: out of the thing, much less find a phone.

1532
01:08:41,034 --> 01:08:42,074
Speaker 6: We never did find the phone.

1533
01:08:42,074 --> 01:08:45,474
Speaker 4: But speaking a Belichick, oh yeah.

1534
01:08:45,234 --> 01:08:45,794
Speaker 6: Doing the round.

1535
01:08:45,914 --> 01:08:53,634
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta let's see more emails. Jack writes in about

1536
01:08:53,634 --> 01:08:57,194
Speaker 3: the Tigers that we are the Tigers. The Lions that

1537
01:08:57,234 --> 01:09:00,554
Speaker 3: we mentioned earlier. Lions have not forgotten how they've been

1538
01:09:00,674 --> 01:09:03,834
Speaker 3: jobbed twice against the Cowboys. First in the nineties in

1539
01:09:03,874 --> 01:09:07,394
Speaker 3: a playoff game when a late, outrageously bad PI call

1540
01:09:07,514 --> 01:09:10,354
Speaker 3: rob them of a victory, and then last season when

1541
01:09:10,394 --> 01:09:13,354
Speaker 3: the officials took a tackle eligible conversion off the board,

1542
01:09:13,674 --> 01:09:15,434
Speaker 3: again robbing the lines of a victory.

1543
01:09:15,634 --> 01:09:17,514
Speaker 4: Now, the first one was not in the nineties. That

1544
01:09:17,594 --> 01:09:19,434
Speaker 4: was much more recent. That was Matthew Stafford.

1545
01:09:19,954 --> 01:09:22,234
Speaker 3: Now the Lions are pissed off. They don't want just

1546
01:09:22,274 --> 01:09:24,994
Speaker 3: to beat you. They want to humiliate you, and they

1547
01:09:25,034 --> 01:09:28,073
Speaker 3: have the talent to do it. The Lions are playing angry.

1548
01:09:28,594 --> 01:09:30,394
Speaker 4: Yeah, the question is it a good thing?

1549
01:09:31,434 --> 01:09:34,834
Speaker 6: I think we'll see. Can you run on hate that?

1550
01:09:34,914 --> 01:09:39,714
Speaker 4: Well? No, Like, if it's those things worth the energy

1551
01:09:39,754 --> 01:09:42,034
Speaker 4: that it takes to think about, I think you could

1552
01:09:42,394 --> 01:09:45,154
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty hindsight make a good case that the

1553
01:09:45,754 --> 01:09:48,034
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven Patriots were close to out of

1554
01:09:48,074 --> 01:09:50,074
Speaker 4: gas at the end of the at the end of

1555
01:09:50,074 --> 01:09:52,474
Speaker 4: the road, and Mike, they had a little bit more

1556
01:09:52,514 --> 01:09:56,034
Speaker 4: left in the tank had they not been so sort

1557
01:09:56,034 --> 01:10:01,314
Speaker 4: of preoccupied with the fu tour from Spygate and you know,

1558
01:10:01,394 --> 01:10:03,754
Speaker 4: running up the score as often as they did.

1559
01:10:04,314 --> 01:10:04,794
Speaker 9: A good point.

1560
01:10:04,954 --> 01:10:07,114
Speaker 6: I really like the twist uniforms right now though, the

1561
01:10:07,594 --> 01:10:10,554
Speaker 6: new blue they've got. I like that that.

1562
01:10:11,194 --> 01:10:16,234
Speaker 9: We also haven't talked about Aaron Rodgers and just what's

1563
01:10:16,234 --> 01:10:21,274
Speaker 9: going on with him, because I gotta say that he's

1564
01:10:21,314 --> 01:10:24,034
Speaker 9: like not washed, but it's he's not Rogers.

1565
01:10:24,074 --> 01:10:26,394
Speaker 4: He's just close to a watch. Yeah, it's not I

1566
01:10:26,394 --> 01:10:26,754
Speaker 4: thought you.

1567
01:10:26,674 --> 01:10:28,874
Speaker 3: Were going to go into the hygiene area.

1568
01:10:29,074 --> 01:10:31,354
Speaker 4: I mean probably not that.

1569
01:10:31,474 --> 01:10:34,954
Speaker 9: Yeah, all of the areas, but it looks to me like,

1570
01:10:35,194 --> 01:10:39,074
Speaker 9: you know, he he's always broken the rules of quarterback mechanics,

1571
01:10:39,074 --> 01:10:41,474
Speaker 9: and he's always thrown off, you know, both feet off

1572
01:10:41,474 --> 01:10:45,034
Speaker 9: the ground and moving around and just flicking his wrist

1573
01:10:45,114 --> 01:10:47,154
Speaker 9: and getting the ball out, and like, I don't think

1574
01:10:47,154 --> 01:10:49,794
Speaker 9: he's got the physical ability to do it anymore.

1575
01:10:49,874 --> 01:10:52,874
Speaker 3: Yeah, people you know, are suspecting this. Achilles did not

1576
01:10:52,994 --> 01:10:53,914
Speaker 3: heal the right way.

1577
01:10:54,314 --> 01:10:56,314
Speaker 6: I think Paul said in the postgame show, and I

1578
01:10:56,354 --> 01:10:58,594
Speaker 6: when I grinded the film ground the film, I know,

1579
01:10:58,954 --> 01:11:00,394
Speaker 6: he don't look like you want to get hit anymore.

1580
01:11:00,554 --> 01:11:04,634
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure that to me, Sure he didn't. He's always

1581
01:11:04,634 --> 01:11:07,154
Speaker 4: Evans right, He's always sort of played by his own rules.

1582
01:11:07,194 --> 01:11:09,074
Speaker 4: But now it looks like he's afraid to get hit.

1583
01:11:09,154 --> 01:11:11,394
Speaker 4: And as soon as I thought, there were plenty of

1584
01:11:11,434 --> 01:11:14,074
Speaker 4: times in that game where he just like left the

1585
01:11:14,114 --> 01:11:16,434
Speaker 4: pocket before you need to, there was no pressure. Yeah yeah,

1586
01:11:16,794 --> 01:11:18,674
Speaker 4: and then he would like sort of slide right a

1587
01:11:18,714 --> 01:11:20,114
Speaker 4: little bit, and all of a sudden he had to

1588
01:11:20,154 --> 01:11:23,354
Speaker 4: throw it away because he moved into a guy. And

1589
01:11:23,394 --> 01:11:25,314
Speaker 4: I also don't think he saw the field very well.

1590
01:11:25,474 --> 01:11:27,474
Speaker 4: Was even a couple of completions we were watching and

1591
01:11:27,474 --> 01:11:29,874
Speaker 4: we were like oh wow, uh oh oh. And then

1592
01:11:30,474 --> 01:11:32,914
Speaker 4: sometimes he made the you know, made the completion. Sometimes

1593
01:11:32,914 --> 01:11:33,794
Speaker 4: he was too late.

1594
01:11:33,754 --> 01:11:34,834
Speaker 6: Could have just kept throwing the gear.

1595
01:11:35,074 --> 01:11:36,073
Speaker 9: I just wonder if.

1596
01:11:35,954 --> 01:11:38,554
Speaker 4: Like well Adams was like the first half of the game,

1597
01:11:38,754 --> 01:11:40,834
Speaker 4: someone one of the New York guys had like a

1598
01:11:41,554 --> 01:11:43,634
Speaker 4: thing he put up and it's like, he's gonna look

1599
01:11:43,674 --> 01:11:45,594
Speaker 4: at this tape. Adams is going to see how many

1600
01:11:45,594 --> 01:11:47,994
Speaker 4: times that either he was open or he was schemed

1601
01:11:48,034 --> 01:11:49,874
Speaker 4: open in the first half and Rogers never threw it

1602
01:11:49,914 --> 01:11:50,234
Speaker 4: to him.

1603
01:11:50,954 --> 01:11:53,474
Speaker 9: Yeah, there was a couple of times. One gone they

1604
01:11:53,554 --> 01:11:55,754
Speaker 9: ran like a pick play for him and Gonzo got

1605
01:11:55,794 --> 01:11:58,514
Speaker 9: got picked off. Another one was like a little slant

1606
01:11:58,514 --> 01:12:01,074
Speaker 9: that Adams shook him pretty good at the line of scrimmage.

1607
01:12:01,514 --> 01:12:03,754
Speaker 9: But I thought Gonzalez was pretty good in this game

1608
01:12:03,754 --> 01:12:04,434
Speaker 9: against Adams.

1609
01:12:04,434 --> 01:12:04,754
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1610
01:12:04,794 --> 01:12:07,754
Speaker 3: PFF certainly thought so, right, he made my good list. Yeah,

1611
01:12:08,514 --> 01:12:10,954
Speaker 3: he didn't have huge numbers for Gonzales.

1612
01:12:11,034 --> 01:12:13,954
Speaker 9: Well, he was targeted five times, only gave up one catch,

1613
01:12:13,994 --> 01:12:16,994
Speaker 9: so that that's always gonna gonna be good in their grading.

1614
01:12:17,274 --> 01:12:18,954
Speaker 9: And the one catch was that at the end of

1615
01:12:18,954 --> 01:12:20,474
Speaker 9: the game was the last play of the game. It

1616
01:12:20,514 --> 01:12:23,354
Speaker 9: was the sixteen yarder to Adams that ended the game,

1617
01:12:23,474 --> 01:12:26,234
Speaker 9: so it was a meaningless catch. So he covered him

1618
01:12:26,234 --> 01:12:29,434
Speaker 9: twenty three times and gave up one catch for sixteen

1619
01:12:29,514 --> 01:12:30,714
Speaker 9: yards on a meetingless throw.

1620
01:12:30,994 --> 01:12:33,914
Speaker 6: So he looked so good to me.

1621
01:12:33,994 --> 01:12:36,474
Speaker 8: He's just so athletic, and I think, you know, maybe

1622
01:12:36,474 --> 01:12:38,474
Speaker 8: you want him to be more physical at times, but

1623
01:12:38,514 --> 01:12:39,714
Speaker 8: I think he's physical enough.

1624
01:12:39,794 --> 01:12:42,594
Speaker 6: But he just he can run. He can run with anybody.

1625
01:12:42,754 --> 01:12:46,554
Speaker 4: Yeah, and my problem with the PFF stuff is totally

1626
01:12:46,634 --> 01:12:50,034
Speaker 4: results based, Like the one catch on five, you know, like,

1627
01:12:50,154 --> 01:12:52,674
Speaker 4: so it doesn't count, The passing appearance doesn't count, the

1628
01:12:52,674 --> 01:12:55,474
Speaker 4: play that probably should have been called for passing affairs

1629
01:12:55,514 --> 01:12:56,754
Speaker 4: gets downgrade, you know it?

1630
01:12:57,394 --> 01:12:57,594
Speaker 10: You know?

1631
01:12:57,754 --> 01:13:01,514
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he was better in this game.

1632
01:13:01,554 --> 01:13:03,354
Speaker 4: I told you know, I had him on my good

1633
01:13:03,354 --> 01:13:05,874
Speaker 4: list this week. I thought Marcus Jones struggled. Now I

1634
01:13:05,874 --> 01:13:08,634
Speaker 4: give him points for competing before anybody yells at me,

1635
01:13:08,674 --> 01:13:12,034
Speaker 4: but I thought he struggled. And I thought Gonzales was

1636
01:13:12,074 --> 01:13:14,034
Speaker 4: better than he had been in the previous couple of

1637
01:13:14,074 --> 01:13:16,394
Speaker 4: weeks in this game. So I'm not telling you that

1638
01:13:16,514 --> 01:13:18,794
Speaker 4: I think PFF is wrong. Yeah, I think they're right.

1639
01:13:18,914 --> 01:13:20,514
Speaker 4: I think he was good. What about the decision I

1640
01:13:20,514 --> 01:13:21,874
Speaker 4: don't like the whole percentage thing.

1641
01:13:21,954 --> 01:13:25,234
Speaker 3: What about the decision to put Marcus Jones on Willson

1642
01:13:25,314 --> 01:13:28,274
Speaker 3: and rather than the other way around and have Gonzo

1643
01:13:28,314 --> 01:13:28,714
Speaker 3: on Willie.

1644
01:13:28,794 --> 01:13:31,314
Speaker 8: That's the follow up question, Fred, because Giord said they

1645
01:13:31,394 --> 01:13:33,794
Speaker 8: liked that matchup, and so I put my pall hat

1646
01:13:33,874 --> 01:13:36,834
Speaker 8: on with, well did you try to get out of that?

1647
01:13:36,954 --> 01:13:39,194
Speaker 8: Like what you know, why why did they liked it?

1648
01:13:39,234 --> 01:13:40,834
Speaker 8: You let them keep going to it. I mean it

1649
01:13:40,954 --> 01:13:42,874
Speaker 8: was so obvious off the line.

1650
01:13:43,034 --> 01:13:45,314
Speaker 9: They tried to double him a few times as the

1651
01:13:45,314 --> 01:13:47,674
Speaker 9: game war on, and I thought, you know, the biggest

1652
01:13:47,674 --> 01:13:49,914
Speaker 9: reason to me would be that Adams is like the bigger,

1653
01:13:49,954 --> 01:13:54,274
Speaker 9: more physical receiver. So Gonzo has the size that Marcus

1654
01:13:54,354 --> 01:13:55,274
Speaker 9: Jones doesn't have it.

1655
01:13:55,714 --> 01:13:57,914
Speaker 3: Wilson's six ' three, isn't he No, he's.

1656
01:13:57,794 --> 01:13:59,994
Speaker 9: Like six to one, but he's also not That's not

1657
01:13:59,994 --> 01:14:03,274
Speaker 9: how he plays. Yeah, So I think that that was

1658
01:14:03,314 --> 01:14:06,074
Speaker 9: probably why they liked that matchup better. But I thought

1659
01:14:06,074 --> 01:14:08,914
Speaker 9: they had some really cool coverages on third down in

1660
01:14:08,954 --> 01:14:12,314
Speaker 9: this game where they were matching in man and stuff

1661
01:14:12,354 --> 01:14:14,634
Speaker 9: like that, and like kind of passing off crossers and

1662
01:14:15,074 --> 01:14:17,634
Speaker 9: things of that nature that ended up starting to work

1663
01:14:17,754 --> 01:14:19,354
Speaker 9: as the game war on. I had a really good

1664
01:14:19,394 --> 01:14:22,514
Speaker 9: rep on Ellis's sack that was a really good coverage

1665
01:14:22,554 --> 01:14:25,154
Speaker 9: rep where they doubled both guys and had them both

1666
01:14:25,514 --> 01:14:28,754
Speaker 9: bracketed on the play and Gonzo was actually on Mike

1667
01:14:28,794 --> 01:14:32,194
Speaker 9: williams uh on an island, so they put Gonzo on him.

1668
01:14:32,514 --> 01:14:34,194
Speaker 9: Said you got to take him by yourself.

1669
01:14:34,674 --> 01:14:37,114
Speaker 6: Single the three, yeah, double the one on the.

1670
01:14:37,114 --> 01:14:40,954
Speaker 9: Two exactly yeah, And it worked perfectly. So I thought,

1671
01:14:41,474 --> 01:14:43,754
Speaker 9: I said a VP got had some good calls earlier.

1672
01:14:43,754 --> 01:14:45,714
Speaker 9: I thought Covington had some moments in this game that

1673
01:14:45,754 --> 01:14:46,634
Speaker 9: were better to two.

1674
01:14:46,474 --> 01:14:49,274
Speaker 4: Point conversion two, which I don't know if you know what.

1675
01:14:49,874 --> 01:14:51,594
Speaker 4: The Jets felt like they had a better chance from

1676
01:14:51,594 --> 01:14:54,114
Speaker 4: the seven, well that one too.

1677
01:14:54,154 --> 01:14:54,834
Speaker 6: I kind of watched it.

1678
01:14:55,234 --> 01:14:56,234
Speaker 4: Do you know he said that right?

1679
01:14:56,354 --> 01:14:56,834
Speaker 9: Rogers did?

1680
01:14:56,954 --> 01:15:00,274
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did not really, Oh my god, Oh geez.

1681
01:15:00,474 --> 01:15:03,674
Speaker 9: It's just so much of what their offense. So much

1682
01:15:03,674 --> 01:15:05,874
Speaker 9: of their issues are him, Like, it's not even just

1683
01:15:05,914 --> 01:15:08,234
Speaker 9: about physical, it's about all the other crafts.

1684
01:15:08,434 --> 01:15:10,754
Speaker 4: I think I think percent of their.

1685
01:15:10,554 --> 01:15:12,194
Speaker 3: Issues being a petulant child.

1686
01:15:12,314 --> 01:15:15,674
Speaker 4: I underestimated how much of a dB he is and

1687
01:15:15,674 --> 01:15:17,274
Speaker 4: that that's me And I've been calling.

1688
01:15:17,754 --> 01:15:19,114
Speaker 9: Out of the huddle get the.

1689
01:15:20,994 --> 01:15:27,674
Speaker 4: Like know what the mess? It's so casual everything, you know, And.

1690
01:15:27,234 --> 01:15:28,474
Speaker 3: This is one of those years ago.

1691
01:15:28,554 --> 01:15:30,074
Speaker 4: But this is one of those things like you know,

1692
01:15:30,714 --> 01:15:33,314
Speaker 4: just because you're ranting and raving like a lunatic doesn't

1693
01:15:33,354 --> 01:15:35,674
Speaker 4: mean you're always wrong, like the Fred Toucher thing on

1694
01:15:35,674 --> 01:15:38,074
Speaker 4: on one of my shows. He's a Jets fan, right.

1695
01:15:38,834 --> 01:15:42,234
Speaker 4: He insists the whole torn Achilles was Rogers's fault, like

1696
01:15:42,394 --> 01:15:45,954
Speaker 4: you're you're under attack, Like it's not. You don't have

1697
01:15:45,994 --> 01:15:48,354
Speaker 4: to be super cool. You can just get sacked or

1698
01:15:48,834 --> 01:15:51,114
Speaker 4: just throw the ball away. You don't have to look

1699
01:15:51,194 --> 01:15:54,674
Speaker 4: super cool doing everything that you do because you're Aaron Rodgers.

1700
01:15:54,994 --> 01:15:57,194
Speaker 4: He thinks that he put himself in harmony and he's

1701
01:15:57,234 --> 01:16:01,514
Speaker 4: probably not wrong, Like it's this casual, like what me

1702
01:16:01,674 --> 01:16:04,554
Speaker 4: worry kind of approached that he has to everything. That

1703
01:16:04,674 --> 01:16:09,074
Speaker 4: leads to four different times they had to either burn

1704
01:16:09,074 --> 01:16:11,354
Speaker 4: a time out or got called for delay a game. Yep,

1705
01:16:12,274 --> 01:16:13,634
Speaker 4: like that's on the quarterback.

1706
01:16:13,714 --> 01:16:15,154
Speaker 9: Yeah, he was like, oh, they were late to get

1707
01:16:15,194 --> 01:16:17,074
Speaker 9: the play calls, and I don't know he's been doing

1708
01:16:17,154 --> 01:16:20,874
Speaker 9: that everyone else scrimmage and then you also so much

1709
01:16:20,874 --> 01:16:24,634
Speaker 9: of their play calling is clearly him, Like the Patriots

1710
01:16:24,714 --> 01:16:27,914
Speaker 9: run defense could not stop Breeze Hall, Like, I know

1711
01:16:28,154 --> 01:16:30,914
Speaker 9: we they were better and we're trying to you know,

1712
01:16:31,114 --> 01:16:33,274
Speaker 9: the soft stuff and all that, but they really couldn't

1713
01:16:33,314 --> 01:16:36,394
Speaker 9: stop Breeze hauled out that much. But Rogers has to cook,

1714
01:16:36,634 --> 01:16:38,994
Speaker 9: like Rodgers has to have his moments in the game,

1715
01:16:38,994 --> 01:16:40,434
Speaker 9: and he's gotta he's got to.

1716
01:16:40,394 --> 01:16:43,314
Speaker 4: Throw the spine fifty. But the amount of guys that

1717
01:16:43,354 --> 01:16:44,834
Speaker 4: he was missing in that game.

1718
01:16:44,794 --> 01:16:46,914
Speaker 9: Yeah, they should have ran the ball forty times in

1719
01:16:46,954 --> 01:16:48,554
Speaker 9: that game, and they did it because of him.

1720
01:16:48,514 --> 01:16:51,314
Speaker 3: Jake writes in Love to Win, Hope may Uh is alright.

1721
01:16:51,394 --> 01:16:54,554
Speaker 3: He looked fantastic until the injury. Curious if you guys

1722
01:16:54,594 --> 01:16:57,594
Speaker 3: think Booty's comments the last few weeks about being mad

1723
01:16:57,634 --> 01:16:59,954
Speaker 3: about not getting the ball due to not dropping any

1724
01:16:59,994 --> 01:17:03,114
Speaker 3: that came to him was a not so subtle shot

1725
01:17:03,154 --> 01:17:06,234
Speaker 3: at Polk, who was an incompletion machine in getting a

1726
01:17:06,314 --> 01:17:09,034
Speaker 3: bunch of targets week after week. Also, I know we

1727
01:17:09,074 --> 01:17:13,154
Speaker 3: still need to tackle and line help. I love Ted McMillan, yep,

1728
01:17:13,274 --> 01:17:16,594
Speaker 3: And if he's there when we draft, I'm shooting for him.

1729
01:17:17,474 --> 01:17:20,634
Speaker 9: I'm definitely starting to come around on the receiver thing,

1730
01:17:21,714 --> 01:17:24,754
Speaker 9: mainly just because some of the tackles have kind of

1731
01:17:24,794 --> 01:17:27,474
Speaker 9: dropped off off a little bit, but also just you know,

1732
01:17:27,514 --> 01:17:29,754
Speaker 9: look if you have a really good quarterback like Drake May.

1733
01:17:29,754 --> 01:17:32,594
Speaker 9: We're already seeing that even this line is starting to

1734
01:17:32,714 --> 01:17:34,434
Speaker 9: level off a little bit in past protection.

1735
01:17:35,074 --> 01:17:35,194
Speaker 4: Uh.

1736
01:17:35,354 --> 01:17:38,114
Speaker 9: Ted McMillan is a is a dog with a D

1737
01:17:38,194 --> 01:17:38,914
Speaker 9: A w G.

1738
01:17:39,114 --> 01:17:45,354
Speaker 3: But what do you think about his hypothesis that Booty's

1739
01:17:45,354 --> 01:17:47,354
Speaker 3: comments were aimed at poke, like when they throw it

1740
01:17:47,354 --> 01:17:48,354
Speaker 3: to me, I don't drop it.

1741
01:17:48,554 --> 01:17:50,634
Speaker 4: See. I think that's one If we go back to

1742
01:17:51,194 --> 01:17:53,554
Speaker 4: me and Evan talking last week, that's when I think

1743
01:17:53,594 --> 01:17:57,794
Speaker 4: you're you're putting some pieces in place that haven't been said. Now.

1744
01:17:57,834 --> 01:18:00,834
Speaker 4: You're interpreting something stretching, you know. And I'm not telling

1745
01:18:00,834 --> 01:18:03,354
Speaker 4: you you're wrong, but I'm saying I don't think. I

1746
01:18:03,354 --> 01:18:06,154
Speaker 4: don't think it's a logical conclusion to say that's that's

1747
01:18:06,154 --> 01:18:08,314
Speaker 4: what he said. Just take him a face back. He

1748
01:18:08,314 --> 01:18:09,674
Speaker 4: feels like he needs to have the ball throw in

1749
01:18:09,714 --> 01:18:11,674
Speaker 4: his way more. Yeah, Like, I don't think it has

1750
01:18:11,674 --> 01:18:12,834
Speaker 4: to be an indictment of Polk.

1751
01:18:13,434 --> 01:18:15,274
Speaker 3: It felt like, how can you throwing it to him

1752
01:18:15,314 --> 01:18:15,754
Speaker 3: so much?

1753
01:18:15,874 --> 01:18:17,994
Speaker 4: Right now? Maybe that maybe that is what he meant,

1754
01:18:18,074 --> 01:18:21,874
Speaker 4: but I didn't take it that way. A little trivia, Yeah,

1755
01:18:21,914 --> 01:18:22,874
Speaker 4: I love love trivia.

1756
01:18:23,274 --> 01:18:26,434
Speaker 3: Brian and Swansea writes in this is raft themed trivia,

1757
01:18:26,514 --> 01:18:30,714
Speaker 3: so we've got to bring Alex in. Drake may joins

1758
01:18:30,794 --> 01:18:34,514
Speaker 3: Richard Seymour and Gerard Mayo as the only Patriot player

1759
01:18:35,074 --> 01:18:38,914
Speaker 3: drafted with a top ten pick during the last thirty years.

1760
01:18:39,474 --> 01:18:42,474
Speaker 3: What team has had the most top ten draft picks

1761
01:18:42,554 --> 01:18:43,714
Speaker 3: during this time period?

1762
01:18:43,794 --> 01:18:48,634
Speaker 9: The Cleveland Browns No. One of two teams Jaguars.

1763
01:18:48,674 --> 01:18:50,514
Speaker 4: No Jaguars, are you looking?

1764
01:18:50,594 --> 01:18:50,714
Speaker 3: No?

1765
01:18:50,754 --> 01:18:51,034
Speaker 6: I didn't.

1766
01:18:51,674 --> 01:18:55,194
Speaker 3: They have an astonishing twenty, including ten straight from two

1767
01:18:55,194 --> 01:18:59,594
Speaker 3: thousand and eight to twenty seventeen during the Super Bowl era.

1768
01:19:00,074 --> 01:19:03,834
Speaker 3: Named the three players drafted number one overall who have

1769
01:19:03,954 --> 01:19:10,874
Speaker 3: had the same last name as a Massachusetts municipality number

1770
01:19:10,914 --> 01:19:13,834
Speaker 3: one overall, So that narrows it down quite a bit.

1771
01:19:14,274 --> 01:19:17,474
Speaker 4: Cam Newton, Yes, ooh.

1772
01:19:17,194 --> 01:19:23,034
Speaker 9: That's a good one. Crap, I'm not going to think

1773
01:19:23,074 --> 01:19:23,794
Speaker 9: it outside.

1774
01:19:23,514 --> 01:19:25,234
Speaker 4: The box like that. We move on to the next one.

1775
01:19:25,674 --> 01:19:26,034
Speaker 3: You don't.

1776
01:19:26,034 --> 01:19:27,474
Speaker 4: I want to. I want to keep thinking, but move

1777
01:19:27,514 --> 01:19:28,754
Speaker 4: on to the next one. I don't want to bog

1778
01:19:28,794 --> 01:19:31,514
Speaker 4: the show down like Mike Franceso.

1779
01:19:31,194 --> 01:19:34,354
Speaker 3: In the nineteen eighty nine Draft eighty nine, the first

1780
01:19:34,394 --> 01:19:37,514
Speaker 3: pick Troy a Minute, third pick Barry sanders In, fourth

1781
01:19:37,514 --> 01:19:41,114
Speaker 3: pick Derek Thomas, and fifth pick d On Sanders were

1782
01:19:41,154 --> 01:19:42,394
Speaker 3: all elected to the NFL.

1783
01:19:42,634 --> 01:19:43,274
Speaker 4: A bad draft.

1784
01:19:43,514 --> 01:19:46,354
Speaker 3: Yeah, who was the second pick in that year's.

1785
01:19:46,154 --> 01:19:50,794
Speaker 4: Draft eighty nine, nineteen eighty.

1786
01:19:51,074 --> 01:19:52,754
Speaker 3: So who was the pick after Troy A?

1787
01:19:52,914 --> 01:19:55,274
Speaker 4: Can you give me the team that drafted Brian Bosworth

1788
01:19:55,394 --> 01:19:59,634
Speaker 4: might give it away, but the Colts Steve Empman. No.

1789
01:20:00,074 --> 01:20:08,474
Speaker 8: But along the trev Alberts no Dawson.

1790
01:20:06,074 --> 01:20:12,194
Speaker 4: Dawson boards illustrated vander rich Tony manderridch he was drafted

1791
01:20:12,194 --> 01:20:13,114
Speaker 4: by green Bay, wasn't he?

1792
01:20:14,074 --> 01:20:17,514
Speaker 3: According to this According to Brian and Swansea, he said,

1793
01:20:17,634 --> 01:20:18,074
Speaker 3: I thought.

1794
01:20:17,954 --> 01:20:20,514
Speaker 4: He was drafted by green Bay. But that's four Hall

1795
01:20:20,554 --> 01:20:21,114
Speaker 4: of famers in.

1796
01:20:21,114 --> 01:20:24,754
Speaker 6: The first five picks those induced football card collecting.

1797
01:20:24,794 --> 01:20:26,073
Speaker 4: Nice, I had all those guys.

1798
01:20:26,114 --> 01:20:29,274
Speaker 3: Who was the last player drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers

1799
01:20:29,314 --> 01:20:30,674
Speaker 3: with a top five pick?

1800
01:20:32,034 --> 01:20:37,674
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh, give you a hint time ago? Correct? Wow? Correct?

1801
01:20:38,634 --> 01:20:42,794
Speaker 3: And finally, what college has had a quarterback, running back,

1802
01:20:43,314 --> 01:20:47,674
Speaker 3: wide receiver, and tight end drafted during the Super Bowl era?

1803
01:20:48,114 --> 01:20:51,234
Speaker 3: Who have been selected to the Hall of Fame? What

1804
01:20:51,434 --> 01:20:55,794
Speaker 3: college had all those players drafted and all gone to

1805
01:20:55,874 --> 01:21:09,794
Speaker 3: this Hall of Fame? Alabama, Penn State, Notre Dame, Joe Montana,

1806
01:21:09,874 --> 01:21:12,194
Speaker 3: Jerome Bettis, Tim Brown, and Dave Casper.

1807
01:21:13,154 --> 01:21:13,754
Speaker 4: I did not know.

1808
01:21:13,834 --> 01:21:14,034
Speaker 3: Dave.

1809
01:21:14,434 --> 01:21:15,834
Speaker 4: That's a good one. You want to go back to it.

1810
01:21:16,314 --> 01:21:19,794
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about it. No more questions.

1811
01:21:19,874 --> 01:21:20,714
Speaker 9: He's going to put it on the.

1812
01:21:22,354 --> 01:21:23,034
Speaker 4: Alright, give me.

1813
01:21:23,234 --> 01:21:26,394
Speaker 3: One is north Shore or close to nor Short Chris

1814
01:21:26,394 --> 01:21:35,394
Speaker 3: pe but it's up north in Massachusetts, Trevor Lawrence. And

1815
01:21:35,474 --> 01:21:40,314
Speaker 3: the other one is i'd say, you know, on the how.

1816
01:21:40,274 --> 01:21:42,794
Speaker 4: About like give me like a team or something that

1817
01:21:42,954 --> 01:21:50,674
Speaker 4: drafted him. Could be anybody. Uh he played for team

1818
01:21:50,714 --> 01:21:55,274
Speaker 4: I hate wow. That could be no help. That could

1819
01:21:55,314 --> 01:22:06,834
Speaker 4: be many. He's either on the Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Bengals, Steelers, Ravens, Chiefs, Cardinals, Chargers, Raiders.

1820
01:22:06,914 --> 01:22:09,394
Speaker 3: There's a lot of team was having a great season

1821
01:22:09,474 --> 01:22:12,874
Speaker 3: and then got hurt close to the playoffs I think,

1822
01:22:12,954 --> 01:22:14,714
Speaker 3: or maybe it was in the week one of the

1823
01:22:14,754 --> 01:22:16,834
Speaker 3: playoffs there, Watson mass Now.

1824
01:22:19,554 --> 01:22:21,954
Speaker 4: All right, why don't you just tell me Carson Palmer.

1825
01:22:22,674 --> 01:22:28,474
Speaker 4: Palmer Palmer never would have gotten Okay, good one, Brian.

1826
01:22:28,314 --> 01:22:31,514
Speaker 9: That's good because are too deep, that's outside the box,

1827
01:22:31,594 --> 01:22:32,674
Speaker 9: thinking too much.

1828
01:22:32,794 --> 01:22:38,714
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to Newton Palmer and Lawrence. Let's go

1829
01:22:38,874 --> 01:22:41,434
Speaker 3: to Christian in Virginia. What's up, Christian?

1830
01:22:43,074 --> 01:22:43,794
Speaker 21: Hey, how's it going?

1831
01:22:43,874 --> 01:22:46,914
Speaker 3: Guys?

1832
01:22:46,994 --> 01:22:51,114
Speaker 22: I got three things. One, I think our chances of

1833
01:22:51,154 --> 01:22:55,194
Speaker 22: getting Key Higgins or DK Metcalf are getting slimmer and

1834
01:22:55,234 --> 01:22:59,954
Speaker 22: slimmer every game that well, every game that they don't play.

1835
01:23:00,554 --> 01:23:03,834
Speaker 22: The Seahawks and the Bengals just can't pull it off.

1836
01:23:04,394 --> 01:23:08,194
Speaker 22: The Seahawks, especially this last game. It was a season

1837
01:23:08,274 --> 01:23:11,514
Speaker 22: low and they didn't have a play longer than twenty yards.

1838
01:23:11,954 --> 01:23:16,153
Speaker 22: DK Metcalf averages like sixteen yards per reception.

1839
01:23:19,674 --> 01:23:21,154
Speaker 9: Metcalf isn't going anywhere.

1840
01:23:21,794 --> 01:23:23,554
Speaker 4: So I don't Yeah, I don't.

1841
01:23:23,674 --> 01:23:26,114
Speaker 9: I don't think he's the only one that has this take.

1842
01:23:26,194 --> 01:23:29,034
Speaker 9: It's not your fall, Christian, So wait a minute, I

1843
01:23:29,274 --> 01:23:29,554
Speaker 9: don't know.

1844
01:23:29,594 --> 01:23:31,994
Speaker 3: I just take this morning that the Patriots could be

1845
01:23:32,114 --> 01:23:33,314
Speaker 3: buyers of it.

1846
01:23:33,394 --> 01:23:36,474
Speaker 4: Oh, we're talking about acquiring a wide receiver right now.

1847
01:23:36,394 --> 01:23:38,474
Speaker 3: Well, they could be buyers of a player that a

1848
01:23:38,514 --> 01:23:39,634
Speaker 3: team wants to unload.

1849
01:23:39,914 --> 01:23:45,594
Speaker 4: Are you talking about a free agency Christian or a trade? Okay?

1850
01:23:45,634 --> 01:23:50,394
Speaker 4: And your point is that because the teams Cincinnati and

1851
01:23:50,394 --> 01:23:52,834
Speaker 4: Seattle haven't played well in the games that those guys

1852
01:23:52,874 --> 01:23:56,474
Speaker 4: haven't played is going to up the level of urgency

1853
01:23:56,514 --> 01:24:00,554
Speaker 4: to resign them. Is that your point? Yeah, Okay, I

1854
01:24:00,554 --> 01:24:03,794
Speaker 4: get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.

1855
01:24:03,954 --> 01:24:06,194
Speaker 9: But DK Metcalf isn't even a free agent. This is

1856
01:24:06,234 --> 01:24:09,234
Speaker 9: a bath take He's on his island about this. DK

1857
01:24:09,314 --> 01:24:12,354
Speaker 9: Metcalf is going to somehow be available for somebody to

1858
01:24:12,434 --> 01:24:15,634
Speaker 9: acquire via trade. And I keep telling him that that

1859
01:24:15,834 --> 01:24:18,154
Speaker 9: is unlikely to happen, and he keeps giving the take out.

1860
01:24:18,514 --> 01:24:20,354
Speaker 4: And I would say, if you think T Higgins is

1861
01:24:20,354 --> 01:24:23,514
Speaker 4: going to be a free agent, I would absolutely Cincinnati

1862
01:24:23,674 --> 01:24:25,954
Speaker 4: is not going to change. Oh we need we need

1863
01:24:25,994 --> 01:24:30,154
Speaker 4: to Cincinnati's yea polly run. So I think there's a

1864
01:24:30,154 --> 01:24:31,914
Speaker 4: good chance that he's going to become available.

1865
01:24:32,114 --> 01:24:33,314
Speaker 9: Has he had three things?

1866
01:24:33,514 --> 01:24:33,674
Speaker 3: Oh?

1867
01:24:33,714 --> 01:24:35,514
Speaker 4: That was one to my.

1868
01:24:35,514 --> 01:24:36,394
Speaker 10: Other point was.

1869
01:24:37,994 --> 01:24:40,514
Speaker 21: I think I think it's kind of dumb when people

1870
01:24:40,554 --> 01:24:43,594
Speaker 21: get upset about running the score up. You know, it's NFL.

1871
01:24:43,834 --> 01:24:46,794
Speaker 21: It's professional football. It's not like Alabama playing some no

1872
01:24:46,994 --> 01:24:50,914
Speaker 21: name school. And I think that's kind of an overblown thing,

1873
01:24:51,034 --> 01:24:54,434
Speaker 21: especially that I saw this week with like the Panthers

1874
01:24:54,754 --> 01:24:59,474
Speaker 21: uh Broncos game. And then my last point something kind

1875
01:24:59,474 --> 01:25:00,994
Speaker 21: of random. I don't know if you guys have seen

1876
01:25:01,074 --> 01:25:04,914
Speaker 21: John Gruden's TikTok but it's very entertaining.

1877
01:25:06,594 --> 01:25:09,834
Speaker 4: That out. And I would just say like this, I

1878
01:25:09,834 --> 01:25:13,954
Speaker 4: think people misunderstand when people talk about running up the score.

1879
01:25:14,034 --> 01:25:17,674
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily because like it, you know, it's it's

1880
01:25:17,714 --> 01:25:19,954
Speaker 4: not like you know, having to watch Tua Tiger value

1881
01:25:19,954 --> 01:25:22,314
Speaker 4: Loa play football and it you know, it upsets you,

1882
01:25:22,554 --> 01:25:24,434
Speaker 4: it makes you, you know, put you in a bad

1883
01:25:24,434 --> 01:25:29,154
Speaker 4: place mentally, right, It's it's just wasted energy. Like I

1884
01:25:29,154 --> 01:25:31,474
Speaker 4: would say, as a you know, as a follower of

1885
01:25:31,474 --> 01:25:34,674
Speaker 4: the two thousand and seven Patriots, I think they wasted

1886
01:25:34,714 --> 01:25:37,794
Speaker 4: time worrying about things that weren't important, like putting fifty

1887
01:25:37,794 --> 01:25:40,274
Speaker 4: on Joe Gibbs. Like I just didn't think that that

1888
01:25:40,434 --> 01:25:41,034
Speaker 4: was worth it.

1889
01:25:41,154 --> 01:25:42,994
Speaker 3: I don't think they wasted time. I think it was

1890
01:25:43,034 --> 01:25:44,274
Speaker 3: easy to do and they did it.

1891
01:25:44,354 --> 01:25:46,314
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't think you get anything out of that.

1892
01:25:46,634 --> 01:25:48,554
Speaker 4: I don't really think there's any value in that. Well,

1893
01:25:48,554 --> 01:25:51,514
Speaker 4: what are you gonna do? Field goals? Paul, Yes, that's

1894
01:25:51,554 --> 01:25:53,674
Speaker 4: exactly what you got. That's running up the score. You

1895
01:25:53,714 --> 01:25:55,634
Speaker 4: give them a chance to stop you, No, you take

1896
01:25:55,674 --> 01:25:57,794
Speaker 4: your guys out of the game, So maybe they have

1897
01:25:57,834 --> 01:26:00,354
Speaker 4: a little bit more left. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

1898
01:26:00,674 --> 01:26:04,074
Speaker 4: Did they do that too. No, no, no, they famously

1899
01:26:04,074 --> 01:26:08,274
Speaker 4: didn't because if you remembered out Jill Arnold explained to

1900
01:26:08,354 --> 01:26:10,554
Speaker 4: us that just can't take them all out because you

1901
01:26:10,594 --> 01:26:13,834
Speaker 4: don't have enough backups. Gollie g Willakers.

1902
01:26:14,914 --> 01:26:17,794
Speaker 9: It's kind of like the equivalent of like, you know,

1903
01:26:17,874 --> 01:26:19,554
Speaker 9: they don't do it as much as now, but like

1904
01:26:19,594 --> 01:26:21,754
Speaker 9: the Slocks used to leave the Jason to get their

1905
01:26:21,754 --> 01:26:24,594
Speaker 9: stats at the end of blowouts and so that Jason

1906
01:26:24,594 --> 01:26:26,954
Speaker 9: Tatum could have thirty points a game for the seasons,

1907
01:26:26,994 --> 01:26:29,594
Speaker 9: they would keep them in the game. And it was like, now,

1908
01:26:29,914 --> 01:26:32,314
Speaker 9: hopefully they've matured and they've realized and I think they

1909
01:26:32,314 --> 01:26:32,994
Speaker 9: have a little bit.

1910
01:26:33,114 --> 01:26:35,474
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they have a little bit. They don't.

1911
01:26:35,514 --> 01:26:38,794
Speaker 4: They don't stat hump anymore like they used to. And

1912
01:26:39,074 --> 01:26:43,114
Speaker 4: I listen, Detroit, more power to you. You're a really

1913
01:26:43,154 --> 01:26:47,754
Speaker 4: good team. I just think that's waste and energy. I

1914
01:26:47,794 --> 01:26:51,714
Speaker 4: think that you can, you know, you can rest guys

1915
01:26:51,754 --> 01:26:54,114
Speaker 4: a little bit. You can, you know, ensure their health

1916
01:26:54,154 --> 01:26:56,994
Speaker 4: a little bit better. What do you like in the

1917
01:26:57,034 --> 01:26:59,554
Speaker 4: end of the day, what's the difference if you win

1918
01:26:59,554 --> 01:27:02,674
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl but you have a plus ten point

1919
01:27:02,674 --> 01:27:05,874
Speaker 4: differential as opposed to a plus twenty Who cares, But

1920
01:27:06,274 --> 01:27:08,194
Speaker 4: isn't the goal to win the game? No, but you

1921
01:27:08,274 --> 01:27:10,114
Speaker 4: read your lot. I mean they were having fun.

1922
01:27:10,434 --> 01:27:12,674
Speaker 3: They were going in there and they were pumping another

1923
01:27:12,674 --> 01:27:14,714
Speaker 3: one that bites the dust after a game.

1924
01:27:14,674 --> 01:27:16,914
Speaker 4: But ironically that was the most fun they had. And

1925
01:27:16,954 --> 01:27:18,874
Speaker 4: that was a close game twenty four to twenty. There

1926
01:27:18,914 --> 01:27:21,314
Speaker 4: was no but there was no running up to score.

1927
01:27:21,594 --> 01:27:24,314
Speaker 3: I know, but they would have if they could, you know,

1928
01:27:24,874 --> 01:27:26,994
Speaker 3: I know they obviously would have if they could have,

1929
01:27:27,074 --> 01:27:28,714
Speaker 3: because they did it every game that they could.

1930
01:27:28,954 --> 01:27:31,314
Speaker 4: I just don't think you get anything out of that.

1931
01:27:31,354 --> 01:27:33,274
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any value in it. And for

1932
01:27:33,314 --> 01:27:36,634
Speaker 4: a guy like Bill Belichick, who was constantly talking about

1933
01:27:37,314 --> 01:27:41,354
Speaker 4: staying in the moment, worrying about I'm not what's important.

1934
01:27:41,394 --> 01:27:45,154
Speaker 4: I thought, I know you at.

1935
01:27:44,994 --> 01:27:47,674
Speaker 3: The time, I loved it.

1936
01:27:46,954 --> 01:27:50,034
Speaker 4: But I just don't. Just kind of you don't have

1937
01:27:50,034 --> 01:27:52,914
Speaker 4: to agree with that reason either. But it's not because

1938
01:27:52,914 --> 01:27:56,154
Speaker 4: I think it offends the other team. Now, there is

1939
01:27:56,234 --> 01:27:58,714
Speaker 4: part of it, but there's part of it you're being

1940
01:27:58,754 --> 01:28:02,914
Speaker 4: to dB and the call it. Christian was right. Denver

1941
01:28:03,034 --> 01:28:04,834
Speaker 4: was trying to run up the score against Carolina the

1942
01:28:04,874 --> 01:28:07,954
Speaker 4: other day and the Panthers didn't like it, and actually

1943
01:28:08,034 --> 01:28:11,354
Speaker 4: it backfired because they ended up turning the ball over

1944
01:28:11,594 --> 01:28:13,954
Speaker 4: and Carolina ended up scoring a touchdown at the end

1945
01:28:13,954 --> 01:28:17,074
Speaker 4: of the game, and like, just there's energy now being

1946
01:28:17,114 --> 01:28:19,914
Speaker 4: wasted having to defend at the end of a game

1947
01:28:19,954 --> 01:28:23,714
Speaker 4: that should have been over. You know. Obviously an extreme

1948
01:28:23,754 --> 01:28:26,314
Speaker 4: example from two weeks earlier, in a game that had

1949
01:28:26,354 --> 01:28:29,314
Speaker 4: long since been decided and Chris Godwin goes down for

1950
01:28:29,314 --> 01:28:32,914
Speaker 4: the season. You know, it's a hard game to play

1951
01:28:33,554 --> 01:28:36,554
Speaker 4: at the highest level, and I think you're just asking

1952
01:28:36,594 --> 01:28:39,474
Speaker 4: for trouble like that, like losing a player. Now, Tampa

1953
01:28:39,514 --> 01:28:42,154
Speaker 4: was losing, they weren't winning. It wasn't a running up

1954
01:28:42,194 --> 01:28:44,794
Speaker 4: to score kind of a thing. But the game was

1955
01:28:44,794 --> 01:28:48,354
Speaker 4: over in the last minute and they're you know, they're playing.

1956
01:28:48,514 --> 01:28:50,754
Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting that they did that, they did it wrong,

1957
01:28:50,834 --> 01:28:54,594
Speaker 4: but I just think more things like that can happen

1958
01:28:55,314 --> 01:28:58,194
Speaker 4: bad than oh okay, we ended up winning fifty two

1959
01:28:58,234 --> 01:28:58,714
Speaker 4: to fourteen.

1960
01:28:59,954 --> 01:29:01,874
Speaker 6: It's one of my favorite pul parolotics of all time.

1961
01:29:01,914 --> 01:29:03,834
Speaker 6: I love that. That's great. I've never thought about it

1962
01:29:03,874 --> 01:29:05,914
Speaker 6: that way, And that's why I'm not being because.

1963
01:29:05,714 --> 01:29:08,074
Speaker 4: People always go to like the soccer mom, that's what

1964
01:29:08,114 --> 01:29:10,874
Speaker 4: they used to make fun of. So this is maybe

1965
01:29:10,874 --> 01:29:12,514
Speaker 4: this triggers me a little bit because this is back

1966
01:29:12,514 --> 01:29:14,634
Speaker 4: in my big show days when I used to be

1967
01:29:14,674 --> 01:29:18,994
Speaker 4: on EEI, my original station. Fred and I would go

1968
01:29:19,074 --> 01:29:21,394
Speaker 4: in with Glenn wood Way and like Fred Smerlis and

1969
01:29:21,434 --> 01:29:23,874
Speaker 4: Fred would want Fred and Steve you know you guys

1970
01:29:24,754 --> 01:29:26,954
Speaker 4: ruled up to remember Friend and Stave of course, right

1971
01:29:27,594 --> 01:29:29,634
Speaker 4: they you know, if you disagree with them, they would.

1972
01:29:29,634 --> 01:29:31,114
Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna throw you in a locker. You

1973
01:29:31,114 --> 01:29:32,674
Speaker 4: know that That's what it was, right, you know, And

1974
01:29:32,714 --> 01:29:35,034
Speaker 4: it was fun. They weren't being serious about it, but

1975
01:29:35,514 --> 01:29:38,314
Speaker 4: they were. And I would and I would just say like, yeah,

1976
01:29:38,514 --> 01:29:40,114
Speaker 4: like what do you get at it?

1977
01:29:40,194 --> 01:29:40,274
Speaker 14: Like?

1978
01:29:40,314 --> 01:29:42,554
Speaker 4: What is what? What is the end game? Let me

1979
01:29:43,114 --> 01:29:46,034
Speaker 4: is the I always say, like, what's the pluses and minuses? Right?

1980
01:29:46,114 --> 01:29:49,594
Speaker 4: What's the pluses and minuses? To me, the minuses grossly

1981
01:29:49,594 --> 01:29:51,954
Speaker 4: outweigh the pluses. So let me if you lose an

1982
01:29:51,954 --> 01:29:53,834
Speaker 4: important player while you're trying to get a meaning with.

1983
01:29:53,874 --> 01:29:55,674
Speaker 3: Score, so let me ask you a question. If you

1984
01:29:55,794 --> 01:29:58,594
Speaker 3: do sub and the subs continue to score, is that.

1985
01:29:58,554 --> 01:30:00,594
Speaker 4: Okay, Yes you can't.

1986
01:30:00,594 --> 01:30:01,674
Speaker 3: It's all about keeping the player.

1987
01:30:01,794 --> 01:30:04,154
Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting. With nine minutes left in a four

1988
01:30:04,234 --> 01:30:06,074
Speaker 4: touchdown game. You should just go out, take a knee

1989
01:30:06,114 --> 01:30:08,754
Speaker 4: and punt. No, the guys that are on the field

1990
01:30:08,794 --> 01:30:12,234
Speaker 4: need to play right, okay, like you know, but at

1991
01:30:12,234 --> 01:30:17,594
Speaker 4: the same time, you don't need to be throwing bombs bombs.

1992
01:30:16,634 --> 01:30:18,994
Speaker 9: Having the running back throw touchdown passes.

1993
01:30:19,354 --> 01:30:21,274
Speaker 4: You know. As an example, Although I don't know how

1994
01:30:21,394 --> 01:30:24,114
Speaker 4: how late that touchdown was, I want to say it

1995
01:30:24,194 --> 01:30:25,674
Speaker 4: was the second happened, but I certainly they wouldn't be

1996
01:30:25,714 --> 01:30:27,834
Speaker 4: taking fifty one yard field goals to make it fifty two.

1997
01:30:28,034 --> 01:30:31,714
Speaker 3: But it was also part of that, you know, just

1998
01:30:31,754 --> 01:30:33,354
Speaker 3: Bill being pissed off at the league.

1999
01:30:33,434 --> 01:30:36,034
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's what I'm saying it. That's what Dan

2000
01:30:36,074 --> 01:30:38,914
Speaker 4: Campbell's doing right now. That's why I draw the comparison. Yeah,

2001
01:30:39,074 --> 01:30:41,394
Speaker 4: Dan Campbell was bad at what Mike said. Like he

2002
01:30:41,434 --> 01:30:43,834
Speaker 4: thinks they were wronged last year. This all started with

2003
01:30:43,834 --> 01:30:46,954
Speaker 4: the Dallas game, but in a game, right, they were

2004
01:30:46,954 --> 01:30:49,594
Speaker 4: wronged in a game. Yeah, but he thinks that it

2005
01:30:49,634 --> 01:30:51,874
Speaker 4: was the league that has an out for him. It's

2006
01:30:51,874 --> 01:30:52,634
Speaker 4: the same principle.

2007
01:30:52,674 --> 01:30:55,234
Speaker 3: Why would the league have anything out for the Detroit Lions.

2008
01:30:55,754 --> 01:30:57,754
Speaker 4: I don't know. You tell me why they consistently get

2009
01:30:57,794 --> 01:31:01,514
Speaker 4: screwed when it's the biggest spots because I could understand

2010
01:31:01,514 --> 01:31:02,314
Speaker 4: how they feel like that.

2011
01:31:03,514 --> 01:31:07,434
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe it's more that the league loves

2012
01:31:07,514 --> 01:31:08,474
Speaker 3: the Cowboys.

2013
01:31:08,954 --> 01:31:09,394
Speaker 4: Whatever.

2014
01:31:09,594 --> 01:31:12,514
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it was, it wasn't over yet. It was

2015
01:31:12,554 --> 01:31:15,434
Speaker 9: twenty eight to fourteen when Montgomery threw the touchdown.

2016
01:31:15,514 --> 01:31:18,434
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just I'm using these as examples, like

2017
01:31:21,194 --> 01:31:24,194
Speaker 4: the Dallas game, they emptied the bucket with these trick

2018
01:31:24,274 --> 01:31:26,834
Speaker 4: plays they had. They had like three or four different

2019
01:31:26,874 --> 01:31:29,434
Speaker 4: things that one I get. I think they're doing it

2020
01:31:29,474 --> 01:31:32,994
Speaker 4: on purpose, and that's I'm not complaining that they're running

2021
01:31:33,034 --> 01:31:36,834
Speaker 4: up the score. I'm just saying, like, can't you.

2022
01:31:38,434 --> 01:31:38,594
Speaker 3: Thing?

2023
01:31:38,674 --> 01:31:42,394
Speaker 4: Can't you better? Especially that team, which I think they kind.

2024
01:31:42,154 --> 01:31:45,434
Speaker 6: Of right, they're feeling themselves a little bit, and they lose.

2025
01:31:45,554 --> 01:31:48,434
Speaker 4: They lose the details on the margins on a regular basis,

2026
01:31:48,554 --> 01:31:50,434
Speaker 4: let alone, when your goal is to win by as

2027
01:31:50,474 --> 01:31:51,794
Speaker 4: many points as opposed to just win.

2028
01:31:52,914 --> 01:31:55,354
Speaker 3: Who's the most overrated team right now in the NFL

2029
01:31:56,634 --> 01:32:00,634
Speaker 3: overrate over It's a big question. I think I've got one.

2030
01:32:00,714 --> 01:32:04,274
Speaker 4: It's a big question. I would have had an answer

2031
01:32:04,354 --> 01:32:07,674
Speaker 4: a couple of like Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, min Pittsburgh would have

2032
01:32:07,674 --> 01:32:09,394
Speaker 4: been my answer. But I think they're going to be

2033
01:32:09,394 --> 01:32:12,114
Speaker 4: playoff fodder. I kind of think that, well, I don't

2034
01:32:12,154 --> 01:32:15,714
Speaker 4: think that they're a contender, so I guess they fit

2035
01:32:15,794 --> 01:32:19,034
Speaker 4: your criteria. Yeah, I will say I've been a little

2036
01:32:19,034 --> 01:32:21,514
Speaker 4: surprised that Russell Wilson, Like I thought, Russell Wilson the

2037
01:32:21,514 --> 01:32:24,794
Speaker 4: first week was a fluke. He was throwing balls up

2038
01:32:24,794 --> 01:32:27,674
Speaker 4: for grabs and Jege Pickens was making ridiculous catches on

2039
01:32:27,794 --> 01:32:29,954
Speaker 4: balls that in a lot of cases bounced off of

2040
01:32:30,034 --> 01:32:35,274
Speaker 4: Jets defenders first. But last night wasn't fluky. Like their

2041
01:32:35,274 --> 01:32:36,474
Speaker 4: offense was good last night.

2042
01:32:36,514 --> 01:32:39,394
Speaker 9: I wouldn't say like overraight, It's probably not the right word.

2043
01:32:39,434 --> 01:32:43,754
Speaker 9: But like, I don't expect Washington to actually make serious noise.

2044
01:32:44,034 --> 01:32:46,434
Speaker 9: I think that they have a really good rookie quarterback.

2045
01:32:46,514 --> 01:32:50,154
Speaker 9: It's had a great year, but I don't when it

2046
01:32:50,234 --> 01:32:53,594
Speaker 9: really becomes, you know, money making time in the playoffs,

2047
01:32:53,634 --> 01:32:54,554
Speaker 9: I don't really expect that.

2048
01:32:54,714 --> 01:32:59,114
Speaker 6: At Baltimore, great one still, So no, I just I

2049
01:32:59,154 --> 01:33:00,394
Speaker 6: can't do it to Lamar.

2050
01:33:00,474 --> 01:33:03,434
Speaker 9: But defense, their defense has not been good, but he's

2051
01:33:03,434 --> 01:33:03,994
Speaker 9: been awesome.

2052
01:33:04,474 --> 01:33:07,434
Speaker 3: Dana Virginia and Michigan. Wasn't there a reason why the

2053
01:33:07,434 --> 01:33:10,354
Speaker 3: Patriots ran up the score against Washington and seven. I

2054
01:33:10,434 --> 01:33:13,674
Speaker 3: vaguely remember Gibbs something about Bill Belichick having an axe

2055
01:33:13,714 --> 01:33:15,554
Speaker 3: to grind, specifically with Joe Gibbs.

2056
01:33:15,594 --> 01:33:19,034
Speaker 4: Yep, that's the theory. I mean that's not what was

2057
01:33:19,074 --> 01:33:22,274
Speaker 4: it that he didn't like Joe Gibbs from his NFC.

2058
01:33:21,914 --> 01:33:23,794
Speaker 9: Easters Yeah eighties Redskins.

2059
01:33:24,074 --> 01:33:27,474
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that's not like that doesn't mean that's fact,

2060
01:33:27,674 --> 01:33:30,674
Speaker 4: but that's the general consensus at the time was right,

2061
01:33:30,834 --> 01:33:32,554
Speaker 4: he doesn't like you did something. Do you remember when

2062
01:33:32,594 --> 01:33:34,554
Speaker 4: we used to go to every game and we would

2063
01:33:34,634 --> 01:33:36,634
Speaker 4: figure out by the end of the game, like you know,

2064
01:33:36,674 --> 01:33:38,034
Speaker 4: every once in a while, they would just take a

2065
01:33:38,074 --> 01:33:40,074
Speaker 4: knee and run the clock out and there he must

2066
01:33:40,234 --> 01:33:43,474
Speaker 4: he must like Fred Kursh you know, do you remember that?

2067
01:33:43,594 --> 01:33:45,274
Speaker 4: You know that's how that's how bad that you know,

2068
01:33:45,354 --> 01:33:47,634
Speaker 4: like they went undefeated. These are the things that we

2069
01:33:47,714 --> 01:33:50,954
Speaker 4: talked about these games. Oh, he must not have an

2070
01:33:50,954 --> 01:33:53,994
Speaker 4: extra grind with him.

2071
01:33:54,074 --> 01:33:56,674
Speaker 3: John writes in he says, I have an apology to

2072
01:33:56,754 --> 01:34:01,954
Speaker 3: sexual assault. Wanted to apologize for Mike to Mike for

2073
01:34:02,114 --> 01:34:04,874
Speaker 3: saying he was moving the goalpost in the Sunday post

2074
01:34:04,874 --> 01:34:08,154
Speaker 3: game show. Finding out it was his computer networking that

2075
01:34:08,234 --> 01:34:11,834
Speaker 3: was causing the frustration. I can imagine the ride home now,

2076
01:34:12,034 --> 01:34:14,914
Speaker 3: no music playing, just a straight face Mike in the

2077
01:34:14,994 --> 01:34:18,474
Speaker 3: open road. Also, can you talk about the good game

2078
01:34:18,554 --> 01:34:20,914
Speaker 3: Gonzo had. I love hearing the micd up when his

2079
01:34:21,034 --> 01:34:24,354
Speaker 3: coach said, be ready, they're coming at you here. Yeah,

2080
01:34:24,354 --> 01:34:26,274
Speaker 3: that was a little NFL film's magic there.

2081
01:34:26,474 --> 01:34:26,754
Speaker 4: Nice.

2082
01:34:27,034 --> 01:34:29,314
Speaker 6: I appreciate it. I appreciate that. That was very true.

2083
01:34:29,354 --> 01:34:30,354
Speaker 6: I was very flustering.

2084
01:34:30,394 --> 01:34:32,794
Speaker 9: I have not seen you quite that fall.

2085
01:34:32,994 --> 01:34:35,074
Speaker 8: I mean, imagine this, the game is unfolding, it's the

2086
01:34:35,114 --> 01:34:38,354
Speaker 8: final drive. Everybody knows what happened, and it's like you're

2087
01:34:38,434 --> 01:34:41,074
Speaker 8: like everybody's on edge, and I'm like, try to type

2088
01:34:41,074 --> 01:34:42,674
Speaker 8: a sentence. It's there, and then all of a sudden

2089
01:34:43,114 --> 01:34:45,634
Speaker 8: it's gone, you know. And then I like, so I

2090
01:34:45,754 --> 01:34:48,114
Speaker 8: reload the page. You know, this is what you're going through,

2091
01:34:48,154 --> 01:34:49,834
Speaker 8: and you're looking up like the place going off and

2092
01:34:49,874 --> 01:34:50,074
Speaker 8: you know.

2093
01:34:50,114 --> 01:34:53,194
Speaker 6: So I just didn't enjoy the win at all. And

2094
01:34:53,234 --> 01:34:54,154
Speaker 6: I got home and I.

2095
01:34:54,034 --> 01:34:56,514
Speaker 8: Was just so like, God, I'm like in a bad

2096
01:34:56,554 --> 01:34:58,114
Speaker 8: mood right now, and they won the game, Like what

2097
01:34:58,154 --> 01:35:00,314
Speaker 8: the hell? And then so, like I said, I watched it,

2098
01:35:00,354 --> 01:35:00,794
Speaker 8: I just put it.

2099
01:35:01,074 --> 01:35:04,274
Speaker 6: You get to be proud with Fred, right, I didn't

2100
01:35:04,274 --> 01:35:06,634
Speaker 6: know I wasn't proud. I was just like stupid comp.

2101
01:35:06,674 --> 01:35:10,834
Speaker 9: Always tell you the back. I tell you this all

2102
01:35:10,874 --> 01:35:13,714
Speaker 9: the time. I write those old dogs, and then you

2103
01:35:13,754 --> 01:35:19,554
Speaker 9: copy and paste it the time. We keep telling you asking.

2104
01:35:19,394 --> 01:35:24,234
Speaker 3: That you're writing right into That's dumb, that really is

2105
01:35:24,274 --> 01:35:25,674
Speaker 3: I live on the edge do that.

2106
01:35:25,714 --> 01:35:26,194
Speaker 4: I don't really.

2107
01:35:26,474 --> 01:35:29,594
Speaker 6: I want to publish immediately, but it doesn't really.

2108
01:35:29,474 --> 01:35:32,354
Speaker 3: Say you know, as you're done, you copy and paste,

2109
01:35:32,394 --> 01:35:32,914
Speaker 3: you put it in.

2110
01:35:34,194 --> 01:35:37,634
Speaker 9: I hit her three years.

2111
01:35:37,714 --> 01:35:40,314
Speaker 4: I can't believe that even even the young tech guy

2112
01:35:40,674 --> 01:35:41,954
Speaker 4: is telling you not to do that.

2113
01:35:42,514 --> 01:35:44,594
Speaker 8: It's not just the old In my defense, I couldn't

2114
01:35:44,594 --> 01:35:46,754
Speaker 8: even get into Google Docs during the during the.

2115
01:35:48,514 --> 01:35:50,394
Speaker 6: US, I wasn't I was using one of the.

2116
01:35:50,714 --> 01:35:51,434
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

2117
01:35:51,794 --> 01:35:54,074
Speaker 9: I don't even know how you do how you write?

2118
01:35:54,874 --> 01:35:57,034
Speaker 3: He's using the tablet.

2119
01:35:57,074 --> 01:35:58,114
Speaker 6: I live on the end of the game.

2120
01:35:58,114 --> 01:36:00,794
Speaker 4: Why don't you just use your phone? That's what would

2121
01:36:00,794 --> 01:36:04,194
Speaker 4: do well? Why don't you just dictate that?

2122
01:36:04,194 --> 01:36:07,074
Speaker 9: That's also partially why I use Google Docs is because

2123
01:36:07,074 --> 01:36:09,794
Speaker 9: then I can access it on all my devices. So

2124
01:36:09,914 --> 01:36:11,714
Speaker 9: like when we are in game, I'll write on my

2125
01:36:11,794 --> 01:36:13,714
Speaker 9: laptop and then when I go down to the locker room,

2126
01:36:13,754 --> 01:36:16,234
Speaker 9: it's still there on my phone, so then I can

2127
01:36:16,314 --> 01:36:16,914
Speaker 9: keep writing.

2128
01:36:17,754 --> 01:36:20,194
Speaker 6: All right, I'll come up with something new for everybody.

2129
01:36:20,194 --> 01:36:22,674
Speaker 4: I definitely need to do more with Google Docs because

2130
01:36:22,674 --> 01:36:23,834
Speaker 4: I don't really know.

2131
01:36:24,354 --> 01:36:27,034
Speaker 9: If I could everything on my phone when we're on

2132
01:36:27,074 --> 01:36:31,434
Speaker 9: the road, I would never publish in time because like

2133
01:36:31,474 --> 01:36:32,474
Speaker 9: how would I be able to?

2134
01:36:32,554 --> 01:36:34,514
Speaker 6: You know, but do you write into pocket on your

2135
01:36:34,554 --> 01:36:36,434
Speaker 6: You just write into Google Docs and then and then yeah,

2136
01:36:36,474 --> 01:36:38,834
Speaker 6: as soon as we get on to publish.

2137
01:36:38,914 --> 01:36:40,314
Speaker 4: So well, that's the other thing that you can know.

2138
01:36:40,394 --> 01:36:42,714
Speaker 4: I do it myself, but just send it to the squad.

2139
01:36:43,234 --> 01:36:44,994
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do it myself. But by the time we're

2140
01:36:45,034 --> 01:36:49,874
Speaker 9: on the bus, I've already written the entire game observations

2141
01:36:49,914 --> 01:36:52,994
Speaker 9: is done on my phone, and then I copy it.

2142
01:36:53,074 --> 01:36:54,754
Speaker 4: Great inside Baseball, see.

2143
01:36:54,794 --> 01:36:56,674
Speaker 8: I just the hard part with writing on your phone though,

2144
01:36:56,794 --> 01:36:58,114
Speaker 8: was like I think it's something, and I got to

2145
01:36:58,154 --> 01:36:59,794
Speaker 8: go back up and then I got to like get

2146
01:36:59,834 --> 01:37:01,034
Speaker 8: the cursor and then I can't.

2147
01:37:01,154 --> 01:37:02,074
Speaker 3: Oh, I could never write.

2148
01:37:02,074 --> 01:37:04,074
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't write on my phone.

2149
01:37:03,514 --> 01:37:06,554
Speaker 6: That's without this multiple fat finger.

2150
01:37:06,714 --> 01:37:09,314
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I've never done it, but like, if

2151
01:37:09,314 --> 01:37:11,674
Speaker 4: I have any kind of choice, I would that would

2152
01:37:11,674 --> 01:37:12,514
Speaker 4: be my last resort.

2153
01:37:12,594 --> 01:37:14,914
Speaker 6: I still miss the BlackBerry push do some of my

2154
01:37:14,954 --> 01:37:16,074
Speaker 6: best miss my phone?

2155
01:37:16,114 --> 01:37:19,114
Speaker 4: Wow, you know that was the original phone that we

2156
01:37:19,194 --> 01:37:21,714
Speaker 4: got from from Freddy. You know, I don't remember that.

2157
01:37:22,074 --> 01:37:24,274
Speaker 4: It was very brief. I never got one. By the

2158
01:37:24,314 --> 01:37:26,474
Speaker 4: time we got them, they kind of were already on

2159
01:37:26,514 --> 01:37:28,434
Speaker 4: the way out and becoming obsolete.

2160
01:37:28,554 --> 01:37:29,394
Speaker 3: Figuthing.

2161
01:37:29,594 --> 01:37:33,194
Speaker 9: Do you want some NFL news to get us off? Yeah,

2162
01:37:33,554 --> 01:37:36,834
Speaker 9: we got The Colts have made a quarterback change.

2163
01:37:37,554 --> 01:37:38,474
Speaker 4: Not surprised by that.

2164
01:37:38,554 --> 01:37:41,794
Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson to the bench and Joe Flacco the starter.

2165
01:37:41,874 --> 01:37:44,314
Speaker 4: And when do we play the Colts?

2166
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Speaker 9: Not not too long from that.

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01:37:46,234 --> 01:37:49,034
Speaker 4: That's not good for the Patriots. That game becomes much

2168
01:37:49,074 --> 01:37:50,674
Speaker 4: more difficult with an actual quarterback.

2169
01:37:51,354 --> 01:37:55,394
Speaker 9: Passes and Stefan Diggs. Your boy torn a c l

2170
01:37:55,514 --> 01:37:56,354
Speaker 9: out for the season.

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01:37:56,354 --> 01:37:58,754
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know he got hurt?

2172
01:37:58,914 --> 01:37:59,234
Speaker 6: Yes?

2173
01:38:00,074 --> 01:38:00,794
Speaker 4: Did I miss that on?

2174
01:38:00,914 --> 01:38:01,714
Speaker 9: That's been your update?

2175
01:38:01,714 --> 01:38:01,954
Speaker 3: He did?

2176
01:38:02,034 --> 01:38:04,074
Speaker 6: No, I know, I knew he got hurt. They were

2177
01:38:04,434 --> 01:38:05,394
Speaker 6: They said it didn't look good.

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01:38:05,434 --> 01:38:07,314
Speaker 4: I should have known. That's why you were sad, did you?

2179
01:38:07,354 --> 01:38:09,514
Speaker 6: Guys? See though, Anthony Richardson tapping out.

2180
01:38:09,474 --> 01:38:14,154
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I'm saying. You can't stiking, but that's

2181
01:38:14,194 --> 01:38:17,354
Speaker 4: what you have to do. Like you absolutely positively have

2182
01:38:17,434 --> 01:38:19,874
Speaker 4: to do that move. You can't let a guide do.

2183
01:38:19,954 --> 01:38:21,354
Speaker 4: Did you see how many guys that have been in

2184
01:38:21,394 --> 01:38:24,514
Speaker 4: the NFL? It said, I've never literally never seen this before.

2185
01:38:25,474 --> 01:38:26,354
Speaker 3: You need a blowcoach.

2186
01:38:26,514 --> 01:38:29,354
Speaker 4: I'm tired of what's going on. I need a blow.

2187
01:38:30,954 --> 01:38:33,514
Speaker 6: Like, what's he doing the rest of the offensive cornerator?

2188
01:38:34,074 --> 01:38:37,234
Speaker 4: He did? He literally just Donevan McNabb throw up in

2189
01:38:37,234 --> 01:38:37,954
Speaker 4: the right.

2190
01:38:37,954 --> 01:38:39,714
Speaker 6: Right, but you stay in there.

2191
01:38:40,034 --> 01:38:43,514
Speaker 4: That's that's the point, Fred, Even the guy who was

2192
01:38:43,554 --> 01:38:46,074
Speaker 4: throwing up in the huddle didn't tap out right.

2193
01:38:46,274 --> 01:38:49,394
Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson is like the guy that everybody thought Drake

2194
01:38:49,434 --> 01:38:52,074
Speaker 9: may was, which is like in college, you could put

2195
01:38:52,114 --> 01:38:56,114
Speaker 9: like five amazing throws in a highlight package, but then

2196
01:38:56,154 --> 01:38:58,194
Speaker 9: the rest of it is just an absolute disaster.

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01:38:58,314 --> 01:39:00,794
Speaker 4: He's had more like ten to thirty two's right than

2198
01:39:00,834 --> 01:39:01,354
Speaker 4: you can.

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01:39:01,234 --> 01:39:02,994
Speaker 6: And like five of them are all like thirty two.

2200
01:39:02,994 --> 01:39:04,073
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.

2201
01:39:04,274 --> 01:39:07,114
Speaker 9: Like he has these unbelievable big time throws down the field,

2202
01:39:07,154 --> 01:39:08,834
Speaker 9: but then he just can't hit like a slam I mean.

2203
01:39:10,634 --> 01:39:12,994
Speaker 3: Athlete. He needed a lot of work and he missed

2204
01:39:13,034 --> 01:39:17,314
Speaker 3: those work seasons. Who knows who knew of like playing

2205
01:39:17,354 --> 01:39:23,994
Speaker 3: more games might have helped him ah.

2206
01:39:22,154 --> 01:39:25,194
Speaker 4: Good shot shot? Uh, North Carolina?

2207
01:39:25,274 --> 01:39:25,674
Speaker 3: What's up?

2208
01:39:25,714 --> 01:39:25,954
Speaker 4: Todd?

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Speaker 23: Hey, guys, I just want to thank you guys for

2210
01:39:30,114 --> 01:39:32,914
Speaker 23: keeping it real. For some of these other stations, I

2211
01:39:32,914 --> 01:39:35,954
Speaker 23: don't even like reading their stop or listening doesn't because

2212
01:39:36,354 --> 01:39:40,274
Speaker 23: they have these weird, bizarre takes on everything and come on, like,

2213
01:39:40,314 --> 01:39:43,874
Speaker 23: we've got a rookie head coach, a rookie defensive coach,

2214
01:39:43,914 --> 01:39:46,474
Speaker 23: a ricky offensive coach. And I looked up. I think,

2215
01:39:47,514 --> 01:39:50,114
Speaker 23: didn't Jakobe just play like three or two gamest year?

2216
01:39:50,194 --> 01:39:51,594
Speaker 23: Wasn't he with Washington or something?

2217
01:39:52,514 --> 01:39:53,794
Speaker 2: He wasn't wasn't.

2218
01:39:53,594 --> 01:39:55,114
Speaker 23: Ready to go this year. Really, he didn't have a

2219
01:39:55,154 --> 01:39:56,874
Speaker 23: full year last year, and they had to try to

2220
01:39:56,914 --> 01:39:59,794
Speaker 23: prep him up. And then they're working on May and

2221
01:39:59,874 --> 01:40:02,234
Speaker 23: we've got to make shift everything, we've got to rebuild.

2222
01:40:03,274 --> 01:40:08,034
Speaker 4: I'm wanting names, Todd. Who are these other stations?

2223
01:40:08,194 --> 01:40:08,954
Speaker 3: Yeah? Who?

2224
01:40:09,674 --> 01:40:10,034
Speaker 4: Come on?

2225
01:40:10,874 --> 01:40:15,074
Speaker 3: So it was a little bit of the musket thing, guys.

2226
01:40:15,154 --> 01:40:18,474
Speaker 4: W e I okay, I haven't heard anyone say that

2227
01:40:18,474 --> 01:40:19,194
Speaker 4: they're not interview.

2228
01:40:19,714 --> 01:40:22,274
Speaker 3: I have to be honest, right, Yeah, the musket fires.

2229
01:40:22,354 --> 01:40:23,514
Speaker 10: You guys are keeping realistic.

2230
01:40:23,514 --> 01:40:27,114
Speaker 23: We should celebrate our wins. And I like, why you

2231
01:40:27,274 --> 01:40:30,594
Speaker 23: look at us We shouldn't have win. We brought so annoying.

2232
01:40:31,514 --> 01:40:34,594
Speaker 4: So your boys, Mike, I'm gonna blame you and your

2233
01:40:35,634 --> 01:40:39,754
Speaker 4: musket fired because I was looking for the people who

2234
01:40:39,754 --> 01:40:41,754
Speaker 4: actually said that bloggers.

2235
01:40:41,314 --> 01:40:43,114
Speaker 6: Aren't being positive. That doesn't sound right.

2236
01:40:43,194 --> 01:40:45,114
Speaker 9: It does feel like this win as much as we

2237
01:40:45,154 --> 01:40:47,914
Speaker 9: are excited about it, Like we talked about it after

2238
01:40:48,034 --> 01:40:51,634
Speaker 9: sustainability factor after week one, and it's the same thing,

2239
01:40:51,834 --> 01:40:52,714
Speaker 9: like there's no.

2240
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Speaker 3: You're not going to play a team that's just melting

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01:40:54,994 --> 01:40:55,954
Speaker 3: down in front of your eyes.

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01:40:56,194 --> 01:40:58,554
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think this one out of every

2243
01:40:58,554 --> 01:41:00,554
Speaker 4: far right every five games, right.

2244
01:41:00,674 --> 01:41:04,674
Speaker 9: I think the stat was teams that score twenty plus points,

2245
01:41:05,354 --> 01:41:08,674
Speaker 9: zero turnovers and give up fewer than two hundred and

2246
01:41:08,714 --> 01:41:12,434
Speaker 9: fifty yards. We're seven hundred and fifty and oh right

2247
01:41:12,634 --> 01:41:15,554
Speaker 9: in NFL history until the Jets. On Sunday, I heard

2248
01:41:15,554 --> 01:41:17,154
Speaker 9: that seven hundred and fifty and one.

2249
01:41:17,434 --> 01:41:18,794
Speaker 4: That's the most Jets things.

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Speaker 9: So just putting into perspective like that's how little sustainability

2251
01:41:25,594 --> 01:41:26,154
Speaker 9: and I would.

2252
01:41:26,154 --> 01:41:28,834
Speaker 4: I would just say, like, what the numbers are, what

2253
01:41:28,874 --> 01:41:31,514
Speaker 4: the numbers are? Seven hundred and fifty and oh is unbelievable.

2254
01:41:31,554 --> 01:41:34,954
Speaker 4: Yeah right. I think it's a little misleading to say

2255
01:41:34,994 --> 01:41:39,834
Speaker 4: like without with no turnovers when no, they technically didn't

2256
01:41:39,874 --> 01:41:42,594
Speaker 4: turn the ball over. They missed a field goal, two

2257
01:41:42,594 --> 01:41:45,634
Speaker 4: extra points, three delay of games right, used all the

2258
01:41:45,714 --> 01:41:49,594
Speaker 4: timeouts in the first quarter, snap the ball to under

2259
01:41:49,634 --> 01:41:51,914
Speaker 4: center when the quarterback was in the shotgun. I mean

2260
01:41:52,074 --> 01:41:54,994
Speaker 4: they turned the ball out, allowed a sixty two yard

2261
01:41:55,034 --> 01:41:58,594
Speaker 4: part return. I mean there's a lot of turnover like plays.

2262
01:41:58,354 --> 01:41:58,634
Speaker 5: In at it.

2263
01:41:58,834 --> 01:42:01,794
Speaker 4: They turned the game over absolutely, you know, but technically

2264
01:42:01,994 --> 01:42:03,554
Speaker 4: they did not turn the ball over.

2265
01:42:03,834 --> 01:42:05,874
Speaker 3: That's what do you think is gonna happen? I mean,

2266
01:42:06,314 --> 01:42:11,074
Speaker 3: you know Woody Johnson, uh, you know, got rid of Salah.

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01:42:11,154 --> 01:42:13,074
Speaker 3: Do you think that he's going to do something like

2268
01:42:13,154 --> 01:42:16,114
Speaker 3: this week like fire somebody else?

2269
01:42:16,234 --> 01:42:17,474
Speaker 4: I think he just got to play it out.

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01:42:17,514 --> 01:42:19,994
Speaker 6: At this point, they're out of moves. I think they're.

2271
01:42:19,954 --> 01:42:23,554
Speaker 9: Fascinated to see what they do, though, because you can't

2272
01:42:23,594 --> 01:42:25,674
Speaker 9: be beholden to Rogers. If he's going to like this,

2273
01:42:25,914 --> 01:42:27,314
Speaker 9: like if he was going to play like an MVP,

2274
01:42:27,514 --> 01:42:30,394
Speaker 9: then you can be but you can't be beholden to Rodgers.

2275
01:42:30,474 --> 01:42:31,834
Speaker 9: He's gonna play like this, So you're not going to

2276
01:42:31,914 --> 01:42:35,274
Speaker 9: hire the next head coach for Aaron Rodgers. Like It's

2277
01:42:35,274 --> 01:42:37,394
Speaker 9: not like if Mike McCarthy gets fired in Dallas, that

2278
01:42:37,394 --> 01:42:40,274
Speaker 9: they should be hiring Mike McCarthy go.

2279
01:42:40,314 --> 01:42:42,274
Speaker 4: Twenty more minutes. It was a really good one that

2280
01:42:42,354 --> 01:42:46,434
Speaker 4: Florido throughout it today. Do you think you think if

2281
01:42:46,434 --> 01:42:49,634
Speaker 4: someone gets hurt this week that someone would want to

2282
01:42:49,674 --> 01:42:53,514
Speaker 4: trade for Aaron Rodgers, Like if some team that loses

2283
01:42:53,554 --> 01:42:59,194
Speaker 4: their starring quarterback. Yeah, Like how it changes so fast

2284
01:42:59,234 --> 01:43:00,114
Speaker 4: the narrative.

2285
01:43:01,074 --> 01:43:03,234
Speaker 3: Christians in LA. What's up, Christian.

2286
01:43:04,714 --> 01:43:04,914
Speaker 10: Guys?

2287
01:43:04,954 --> 01:43:05,394
Speaker 4: How are you?

2288
01:43:05,394 --> 01:43:06,754
Speaker 6: Today's good?

2289
01:43:07,674 --> 01:43:07,994
Speaker 12: Great?

2290
01:43:08,154 --> 01:43:12,434
Speaker 10: But my most overrated team right now is the Minnesota Viking. Well,

2291
01:43:12,474 --> 01:43:16,994
Speaker 10: I'm happy for Sam Donald soa final finally coming on

2292
01:43:17,234 --> 01:43:20,274
Speaker 10: and researching as a competent quarterback. I don't think it's

2293
01:43:20,314 --> 01:43:23,154
Speaker 10: sustainable as far as as far as our team goes.

2294
01:43:23,674 --> 01:43:25,994
Speaker 10: Like the gentleman before me just said, hey, I'm just

2295
01:43:26,114 --> 01:43:28,474
Speaker 10: enjoying the Royds this year. I'm seeing mainly for me,

2296
01:43:29,034 --> 01:43:33,113
Speaker 10: if this system can be a workable system with better athletes.

2297
01:43:33,794 --> 01:43:34,594
Speaker 10: What do you guys think?

2298
01:43:35,834 --> 01:43:38,994
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a that's sort of how I watched these games.

2299
01:43:39,074 --> 01:43:42,274
Speaker 9: When I watch them back, especially is more okay, you know,

2300
01:43:42,594 --> 01:43:44,314
Speaker 9: no offense to any of the players that are on

2301
01:43:44,354 --> 01:43:47,274
Speaker 9: the field. But if this is T Higgins instead of

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01:43:47,634 --> 01:43:51,274
Speaker 9: wide receiver X. I don't want to name anybody specifically,

2303
01:43:51,314 --> 01:43:54,794
Speaker 9: but is it would this be better? And would this work?

2304
01:43:54,834 --> 01:43:57,874
Speaker 9: And like the obvious answer is yes, But I still

2305
01:43:57,954 --> 01:44:02,073
Speaker 9: think offensively, they're they're they're not a very innovative offense.

2306
01:44:02,394 --> 01:44:05,194
Speaker 9: Like I don't think that it's an offense. It's not sound,

2307
01:44:05,274 --> 01:44:08,794
Speaker 9: but it's just not very creative or innovative. I don't

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01:44:08,794 --> 01:44:09,594
Speaker 9: think they've really.

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01:44:09,434 --> 01:44:11,714
Speaker 3: Had a chance yet to do that type of thing.

2310
01:44:11,914 --> 01:44:13,954
Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe right now, which is not his in his

2311
01:44:14,634 --> 01:44:16,994
Speaker 9: typical it's not an a VP's DNA to be.

2312
01:44:17,154 --> 01:44:21,474
Speaker 3: Like, I just I can't make a judgment yet one

2313
01:44:21,514 --> 01:44:23,714
Speaker 3: way or the other. I just don't think they've had

2314
01:44:23,834 --> 01:44:26,514
Speaker 3: enough opportunity yet. You you know, as billys to say,

2315
01:44:26,514 --> 01:44:29,474
Speaker 3: we're just trying to get the you know, center quarterback exchange.

2316
01:44:29,554 --> 01:44:31,714
Speaker 4: The Jets are still doing it. You know, I think

2317
01:44:31,714 --> 01:44:32,354
Speaker 4: this didn't work.

2318
01:44:32,394 --> 01:44:34,554
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff we're working through before we

2319
01:44:34,594 --> 01:44:36,674
Speaker 3: get to that point where we can be creative.

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Speaker 9: I would say that there's also you know, since the

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01:44:39,794 --> 01:44:42,954
Speaker 9: past protection is settled down, you see some of their

2322
01:44:43,074 --> 01:44:46,674
Speaker 9: route combinations actually start to take hold and like you know,

2323
01:44:46,794 --> 01:44:49,634
Speaker 9: work and create space, do things like that and That's

2324
01:44:49,674 --> 01:44:51,394
Speaker 9: why I was talking about at the beginning of the show,

2325
01:44:51,634 --> 01:44:53,434
Speaker 9: like now that they have some time back there for

2326
01:44:53,474 --> 01:44:56,674
Speaker 9: the quarterbacks to let these plays develop, suddenly you are

2327
01:44:56,714 --> 01:44:58,914
Speaker 9: seeing some bigger plays down the field. You are seeing

2328
01:44:58,954 --> 01:45:02,394
Speaker 9: some of those route combinations work. Well, I just don't

2329
01:45:02,434 --> 01:45:06,754
Speaker 9: see them the way they present plays, you know, formations, motion,

2330
01:45:07,074 --> 01:45:09,394
Speaker 9: things like that, Like they don't do that the way

2331
01:45:09,474 --> 01:45:11,474
Speaker 9: that the type pantskys do it.

2332
01:45:11,554 --> 01:45:11,794
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2333
01:45:11,834 --> 01:45:14,554
Speaker 8: I had similar kind of thoughts watching the defense, thinking about,

2334
01:45:14,594 --> 01:45:16,714
Speaker 8: you know, what's the real nose tackle. What's this defense

2335
01:45:16,754 --> 01:45:18,434
Speaker 8: look like with a real nose tackle in here? Somebody

2336
01:45:18,434 --> 01:45:22,594
Speaker 8: who's really controlling the middle of the line. Well, not

2337
01:45:23,354 --> 01:45:26,154
Speaker 8: not him, not him, not him, because he was getting

2338
01:45:26,194 --> 01:45:27,874
Speaker 8: off to you know, they're playing him off the side something.

2339
01:45:27,914 --> 01:45:29,834
Speaker 8: But same thing with the edge, you know. I mean,

2340
01:45:30,234 --> 01:45:32,514
Speaker 8: I like Jennings. I wish Jennings could rush the passer.

2341
01:45:32,554 --> 01:45:35,434
Speaker 8: I wish he had something, but he you know, it's

2342
01:45:35,514 --> 01:45:37,314
Speaker 8: just a he's a big physical guy. He's going to

2343
01:45:37,354 --> 01:45:39,234
Speaker 8: try to throw a little shimi and get around, but

2344
01:45:39,274 --> 01:45:41,514
Speaker 8: he doesn't have you know, moves. I like him, I mean,

2345
01:45:41,554 --> 01:45:43,434
Speaker 8: I like him being part of the team, but they

2346
01:45:43,434 --> 01:45:46,154
Speaker 8: need somebody who's in every down edge rusher that you

2347
01:45:46,154 --> 01:45:48,193
Speaker 8: know you get bar more back and you got White,

2348
01:45:48,394 --> 01:45:49,154
Speaker 8: You're really cooking.

2349
01:45:49,354 --> 01:45:54,314
Speaker 3: Then I think, yep, let's see David Maine right saying.

2350
01:45:54,354 --> 01:45:56,994
Speaker 3: I'll start by saying that I hope Drake is okay

2351
01:45:57,034 --> 01:46:00,034
Speaker 3: and makes a speedy recovery. Mayo mentioned on Monday that

2352
01:46:00,114 --> 01:46:02,594
Speaker 3: it was the league that called down to have May

2353
01:46:02,634 --> 01:46:05,594
Speaker 3: brought to the locker room for a concussion assessment. Do

2354
01:46:05,674 --> 01:46:08,274
Speaker 3: you find yet a little suspect that just a few

2355
01:46:08,314 --> 01:46:12,034
Speaker 3: short weeks ago, Josh Allen was not unconscious and was

2356
01:46:12,074 --> 01:46:15,714
Speaker 3: sniffing smelling salts on the sideline, but only missed one play.

2357
01:46:16,314 --> 01:46:19,834
Speaker 3: Rewind to last year in the AFC Championship, Mahomes took

2358
01:46:19,874 --> 01:46:21,914
Speaker 3: a blow to the head that broke a chunk out

2359
01:46:21,954 --> 01:46:25,074
Speaker 3: of his helmet. No locker room for him. It seems

2360
01:46:25,074 --> 01:46:27,554
Speaker 3: to me that player safety comes first as long as

2361
01:46:27,554 --> 01:46:30,234
Speaker 3: they don't have to pull a star. I know this

2362
01:46:30,314 --> 01:46:33,154
Speaker 3: sounds insensitive, but I only bring this up because after

2363
01:46:33,274 --> 01:46:35,954
Speaker 3: May's hit, he threw a beautiful pass while on the run.

2364
01:46:36,314 --> 01:46:38,754
Speaker 3: Then Mayo said that May really wanted to go back.

2365
01:46:39,114 --> 01:46:41,554
Speaker 3: Now he'll probably have to miss at least one more game.

2366
01:46:41,994 --> 01:46:44,554
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is that the league needs to be consistent.

2367
01:46:44,954 --> 01:46:49,154
Speaker 3: Does anyone to know does anyone even know what the

2368
01:46:49,154 --> 01:46:52,234
Speaker 3: concussion of the proto call is? Specifically? I googled it

2369
01:46:52,394 --> 01:46:54,354
Speaker 3: and all I could find is that it's a five

2370
01:46:54,434 --> 01:46:55,314
Speaker 3: step process.

2371
01:46:55,394 --> 01:46:56,954
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I could tell I'm not going to

2372
01:46:56,994 --> 01:46:58,874
Speaker 9: sit here and bog down the whole show telling you

2373
01:46:58,874 --> 01:47:01,834
Speaker 9: the five step process. But some of the b reporters

2374
01:47:01,874 --> 01:47:04,954
Speaker 9: I saw, I think Mark Daniels put out like the

2375
01:47:05,114 --> 01:47:08,394
Speaker 9: entire five step process word for word, if you are

2376
01:47:08,434 --> 01:47:11,114
Speaker 9: really that interested in it. The throw that he made

2377
01:47:11,274 --> 01:47:13,634
Speaker 9: after the concussion was the one to Booty that Booty

2378
01:47:13,714 --> 01:47:16,634
Speaker 9: dropped on third down. That was the good throw that

2379
01:47:16,674 --> 01:47:21,034
Speaker 9: he made. That happened after he significantly got didn't he.

2380
01:47:21,034 --> 01:47:25,034
Speaker 4: Get sacked after that? And then the next drive coming

2381
01:47:25,034 --> 01:47:26,314
Speaker 4: out the second quarter.

2382
01:47:26,514 --> 01:47:29,034
Speaker 9: He did get sacked once. I don't remember when exactly

2383
01:47:29,034 --> 01:47:29,274
Speaker 9: it was.

2384
01:47:29,474 --> 01:47:31,154
Speaker 4: I don't think he completed any path. I don't think

2385
01:47:31,154 --> 01:47:35,194
Speaker 4: he threw any that. The Thornton pass definitely happened before before.

2386
01:47:35,354 --> 01:47:39,874
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about though, you know we remember Josh Allen

2387
01:47:39,914 --> 01:47:40,474
Speaker 3: getting him and he.

2388
01:47:40,474 --> 01:47:43,274
Speaker 4: Didn't have a concussion. Well, how do they know because

2389
01:47:43,314 --> 01:47:44,834
Speaker 4: they evaluated him on the sideline.

2390
01:47:46,474 --> 01:47:48,674
Speaker 3: I mean, like, if he's unconscious.

2391
01:47:48,754 --> 01:47:52,394
Speaker 4: That's okay, Okay, So when was he unconscious? That's what

2392
01:47:52,434 --> 01:47:55,594
Speaker 4: he said. No, he didn't, that's what the emailers. That's

2393
01:47:55,634 --> 01:47:57,834
Speaker 4: what the emailer said. He didn't say he was unconscious.

2394
01:47:57,914 --> 01:47:58,354
Speaker 3: Yeah he did.

2395
01:47:58,754 --> 01:48:00,714
Speaker 4: The emailer said, he's on he was unconscious.

2396
01:48:00,874 --> 01:48:02,474
Speaker 9: Josh Allen was No.

2397
01:48:02,554 --> 01:48:05,114
Speaker 4: The emailer said that Josh Allen was unconscious. I watched

2398
01:48:05,154 --> 01:48:06,314
Speaker 4: the game. He wasn't unconscious.

2399
01:48:06,314 --> 01:48:06,994
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.

2400
01:48:07,274 --> 01:48:08,914
Speaker 4: They made him go off the field telling you what

2401
01:48:08,954 --> 01:48:09,474
Speaker 4: he wanted.

2402
01:48:09,314 --> 01:48:11,994
Speaker 3: To stay on. The emailer said he was unconscious and

2403
01:48:11,994 --> 01:48:13,394
Speaker 3: then he was sniffing smelling salts.

2404
01:48:13,434 --> 01:48:17,514
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's that's a lie. Okay, Like that's a lie,

2405
01:48:17,634 --> 01:48:20,114
Speaker 4: David Man, you're a liar. Well, he wasn't. I was

2406
01:48:20,154 --> 01:48:21,754
Speaker 4: watching the game. That was a red zone.

2407
01:48:22,194 --> 01:48:24,154
Speaker 24: Was a weekend at Bernie's possession where they were just

2408
01:48:24,194 --> 01:48:27,874
Speaker 24: kind of like he also just Drake May did not

2409
01:48:27,994 --> 01:48:30,794
Speaker 24: look right after he took that hit, and it kind

2410
01:48:30,794 --> 01:48:32,514
Speaker 24: of took him a second to get up, and I.

2411
01:48:32,474 --> 01:48:36,154
Speaker 4: Think that the NFL made a mistake not pulling him

2412
01:48:36,194 --> 01:48:38,794
Speaker 4: off the field, like this whole thing that the NFL

2413
01:48:38,874 --> 01:48:43,754
Speaker 4: made him. But they were about fifteen minutes late. Zoe

2414
01:48:43,994 --> 01:48:47,194
Speaker 4: Live on the broadcast said he's slow getting up here.

2415
01:48:48,234 --> 01:48:52,234
Speaker 4: He saw it like these guys when they leave the

2416
01:48:52,274 --> 01:48:54,954
Speaker 4: game and they have to go to get evaluated. Not

2417
01:48:54,994 --> 01:48:57,994
Speaker 4: everybody has a concussion. Right now, you can make an

2418
01:48:58,074 --> 01:49:00,914
Speaker 4: argument that he really did have a concussion, and they

2419
01:49:00,914 --> 01:49:02,874
Speaker 4: said that he didn't. I don't know. I didn't do

2420
01:49:02,914 --> 01:49:06,234
Speaker 4: the medical evaluation. I can't speak intelligently on that.

2421
01:49:06,514 --> 01:49:09,073
Speaker 3: And I would think with all the you know, she's

2422
01:49:09,434 --> 01:49:12,354
Speaker 3: money and scrutiny the league has been over the years

2423
01:49:12,394 --> 01:49:15,314
Speaker 3: and the lawsuit with the concussions, the last thing that

2424
01:49:15,354 --> 01:49:17,994
Speaker 3: they want is to be found out that they're giving

2425
01:49:18,314 --> 01:49:20,314
Speaker 3: preferential treatment to stars.

2426
01:49:20,794 --> 01:49:22,754
Speaker 4: What comes to the well, how about a guy was

2427
01:49:22,834 --> 01:49:25,114
Speaker 4: unconscious on the field and they didn't make him go

2428
01:49:25,114 --> 01:49:25,994
Speaker 4: to the locker room?

2429
01:49:26,114 --> 01:49:26,274
Speaker 3: Right?

2430
01:49:26,474 --> 01:49:29,514
Speaker 4: Does that make any sense to anybody? That's what he said.

2431
01:49:30,394 --> 01:49:32,074
Speaker 4: But I'm asking you if you think that makes sense.

2432
01:49:32,194 --> 01:49:32,354
Speaker 3: It does.

2433
01:49:32,514 --> 01:49:34,834
Speaker 4: I don't think that that defense. Pat McAfee is the

2434
01:49:34,834 --> 01:49:36,154
Speaker 4: one that's been saying he was knocked out.

2435
01:49:36,154 --> 01:49:37,114
Speaker 15: I'm looking at it right now.

2436
01:49:37,314 --> 01:49:41,714
Speaker 4: He wasn't knocked out. In Pat McAfee, you're a liar.

2437
01:49:42,554 --> 01:49:45,314
Speaker 9: This is just mine. Something happened I missed. I do

2438
01:49:45,434 --> 01:49:47,594
Speaker 9: think that in just my opinion. I think this does

2439
01:49:47,634 --> 01:49:48,554
Speaker 9: happen in the playoffs.

2440
01:49:48,554 --> 01:49:50,874
Speaker 4: There's no question that happened to Julian Edelman.

2441
01:49:50,994 --> 01:49:54,234
Speaker 9: Right, I was going to bring up Edelman. I believe

2442
01:49:54,354 --> 01:49:56,474
Speaker 9: after the fact has admitted that he was definitely.

2443
01:49:56,594 --> 01:50:00,394
Speaker 4: Oh yes, he said he didn't remember what down it was. Yeah.

2444
01:50:00,514 --> 01:50:04,554
Speaker 9: Yeah, But so it does happen when the State High

2445
01:50:04,674 --> 01:50:08,034
Speaker 9: it happens in a meaning not meaningless, but a regular

2446
01:50:08,074 --> 01:50:10,474
Speaker 9: season game in the middle of October. I don't think

2447
01:50:10,554 --> 01:50:11,314
Speaker 9: that that's happening.

2448
01:50:11,354 --> 01:50:13,514
Speaker 4: But there's a difference between getting your bell rung and

2449
01:50:13,514 --> 01:50:17,594
Speaker 4: getting you know, impossibly have a concussion and being knocked out. Yeah, Like,

2450
01:50:17,754 --> 01:50:20,194
Speaker 4: do you believe that Patrick Mahomes was was knocked out

2451
01:50:20,194 --> 01:50:21,194
Speaker 4: in the playoffs last year?

2452
01:50:21,234 --> 01:50:23,834
Speaker 3: Well, he talked about he was talking about the other guy, Josh.

2453
01:50:24,074 --> 01:50:26,194
Speaker 4: Do you believe that Josh Allen knock Well, I saw

2454
01:50:26,234 --> 01:50:28,274
Speaker 4: that he wasn't. Okay, So why are you get busted

2455
01:50:28,314 --> 01:50:29,234
Speaker 4: my chops about.

2456
01:50:29,034 --> 01:50:31,994
Speaker 3: Him because you were telling me that that he didn't

2457
01:50:32,034 --> 01:50:32,394
Speaker 3: say that.

2458
01:50:33,234 --> 01:50:35,274
Speaker 4: I said he, I said he wasn't knock. No, But

2459
01:50:35,314 --> 01:50:36,354
Speaker 4: you say he didn't say that.

2460
01:50:36,394 --> 01:50:37,754
Speaker 3: I said, no, he did say it.

2461
01:50:37,834 --> 01:50:42,074
Speaker 4: That's what you were saying. Oh okay, Yeah, my bad.

2462
01:50:43,554 --> 01:50:48,234
Speaker 6: It's like he wasn't Like I.

2463
01:50:48,394 --> 01:50:50,754
Speaker 4: Just every time this all gets back to the tour thing.

2464
01:50:50,794 --> 01:50:54,554
Speaker 4: For me, it really does. Every time someone gets hit,

2465
01:50:54,674 --> 01:50:56,674
Speaker 4: it's the end of a guy's life, and.

2466
01:50:56,554 --> 01:50:57,834
Speaker 3: It's just right.

2467
01:50:58,034 --> 01:51:00,994
Speaker 4: It's a there's a lot of risk that's involved in

2468
01:51:01,074 --> 01:51:05,434
Speaker 4: the sport. Guys are going to get concussions. I didn't

2469
01:51:05,434 --> 01:51:09,274
Speaker 4: see anybody the Miami game here about three or four

2470
01:51:09,314 --> 01:51:13,754
Speaker 4: weeks ago, a Chan got lit up by Jalen Hawkins

2471
01:51:13,834 --> 01:51:16,794
Speaker 4: right in front of the Dolphins bench. He went down

2472
01:51:17,554 --> 01:51:20,554
Speaker 4: with the fencing position, and no one said a word

2473
01:51:20,594 --> 01:51:24,954
Speaker 4: about it. I've heard so many people claim that they've

2474
01:51:24,994 --> 01:51:28,754
Speaker 4: never seen the fencing position other than from Tua. I've

2475
01:51:28,794 --> 01:51:32,994
Speaker 4: seen that at least even once a year, every year

2476
01:51:32,994 --> 01:51:34,594
Speaker 4: i've watched the game.

2477
01:51:34,794 --> 01:51:38,234
Speaker 6: I also heard a lot of yes, yeah.

2478
01:51:37,514 --> 01:51:39,594
Speaker 9: After it happened to May, Like I had a lot

2479
01:51:39,594 --> 01:51:41,794
Speaker 9: of people and I mentioned saying that he's now he's

2480
01:51:41,794 --> 01:51:44,434
Speaker 9: got to wear the Guardian cap and they're gonna have to,

2481
01:51:44,754 --> 01:51:48,514
Speaker 9: you know how what's his long term like health implications

2482
01:51:48,554 --> 01:51:50,674
Speaker 9: of this. And I'm not trying to make light of

2483
01:51:50,714 --> 01:51:52,394
Speaker 9: concussions or anything like that.

2484
01:51:52,394 --> 01:51:55,874
Speaker 3: But I think other people try to like like tell you,

2485
01:51:55,954 --> 01:51:57,634
Speaker 3: like Paul said, it's the end of their career.

2486
01:51:57,834 --> 01:52:00,954
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, like every single hit is a referendum on

2487
01:52:00,994 --> 01:52:04,834
Speaker 4: the future of the person the league. You know, in

2488
01:52:04,874 --> 01:52:08,194
Speaker 4: this case, it's cheating. They're rooting for the you know,

2489
01:52:08,234 --> 01:52:11,514
Speaker 4: they're allowing stuff for stars like Mahomes and Allen that

2490
01:52:11,514 --> 01:52:15,514
Speaker 4: they won't for a rookie. Like not everything is it

2491
01:52:15,674 --> 01:52:18,514
Speaker 4: like an uncovered like conspiracy.

2492
01:52:19,474 --> 01:52:23,594
Speaker 3: Let's talk about good things. Ben Brown Patrick in Connecticut

2493
01:52:23,634 --> 01:52:25,794
Speaker 3: rights and been listening for about three years now. I

2494
01:52:25,874 --> 01:52:28,554
Speaker 3: want to say I love the show. Wanted to bring

2495
01:52:28,634 --> 01:52:30,834
Speaker 3: up Ben Brown. I feel like I haven't heard anything

2496
01:52:30,874 --> 01:52:33,674
Speaker 3: about his play since taking over the center spot. I'm

2497
01:52:33,674 --> 01:52:35,914
Speaker 3: not a deep in the woods guy when it comes

2498
01:52:35,914 --> 01:52:38,914
Speaker 3: to stats, but I like what I've seen. Was wondering

2499
01:52:38,954 --> 01:52:41,354
Speaker 3: if he's someone who has surprised you, and do you

2500
01:52:41,394 --> 01:52:44,714
Speaker 3: feel like he has a longer future than just this year.

2501
01:52:46,034 --> 01:52:48,314
Speaker 9: I would say he's certainly surprised me because he's a

2502
01:52:48,354 --> 01:52:51,154
Speaker 9: guy off the scrap he that's starting games for the

2503
01:52:51,154 --> 01:52:54,354
Speaker 9: Patriots and doesn't look totally out of place. I would

2504
01:52:54,354 --> 01:52:56,954
Speaker 9: just say that Quentin Williams ate his lunch money a

2505
01:52:56,994 --> 01:52:58,834
Speaker 9: little bit in this game, But like Quinn Williams, an

2506
01:52:58,834 --> 01:52:59,834
Speaker 9: all pro player.

2507
01:52:59,554 --> 01:53:01,914
Speaker 6: And David Andrews lunch More and.

2508
01:53:02,274 --> 01:53:04,754
Speaker 9: Like literally every time they played the Jets, Quinn Williams

2509
01:53:04,794 --> 01:53:06,594
Speaker 9: is in the backfield one hundred times. So it's like,

2510
01:53:06,634 --> 01:53:09,394
Speaker 9: I'm not trying to hold that against Ben Brown, but

2511
01:53:09,834 --> 01:53:11,514
Speaker 9: I would say the one thing that stands out to

2512
01:53:11,554 --> 01:53:16,194
Speaker 9: me is that he's a bigger center, and that has

2513
01:53:16,274 --> 01:53:18,674
Speaker 9: helped him out maybe at times in the run game

2514
01:53:18,714 --> 01:53:20,634
Speaker 9: a little bit, that he has a little bit more

2515
01:53:20,674 --> 01:53:23,434
Speaker 9: size to him than some of the typical centers that

2516
01:53:23,514 --> 01:53:26,434
Speaker 9: you see. But I still think he's a backup. Like

2517
01:53:26,474 --> 01:53:28,914
Speaker 9: I haven't seen enough to say that he's a starting center.

2518
01:53:28,994 --> 01:53:30,634
Speaker 6: I just say too, like we saw so many boss

2519
01:53:30,674 --> 01:53:31,514
Speaker 6: snaps this summer that.

2520
01:53:31,794 --> 01:53:33,714
Speaker 9: Hasn't been a problem. Yeah, And he's making all the

2521
01:53:33,754 --> 01:53:36,874
Speaker 9: line calls too, which I is remarkable. Like he started

2522
01:53:36,874 --> 01:53:39,594
Speaker 9: the game against Houston, he had been there for like

2523
01:53:39,834 --> 01:53:42,914
Speaker 9: a cup of coffee and he's already making line calls

2524
01:53:42,954 --> 01:53:45,834
Speaker 9: with a rookie quarterback, and that's really impressive.

2525
01:53:46,234 --> 01:53:48,234
Speaker 3: So I don't I'm asking because I don't know in

2526
01:53:48,354 --> 01:53:51,114
Speaker 3: order to make line calls, do you have to know

2527
01:53:51,194 --> 01:53:53,994
Speaker 3: the playbook or is it something else the protections?

2528
01:53:54,074 --> 01:53:57,234
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, so like that's not easy no, no, and

2529
01:53:57,634 --> 01:54:00,394
Speaker 9: they they they've simplified some of their protections, which I

2530
01:54:00,394 --> 01:54:02,954
Speaker 9: think has actually worked out in their favor. So they're

2531
01:54:02,954 --> 01:54:05,274
Speaker 9: doing a lot of like half slide and then locked

2532
01:54:05,314 --> 01:54:07,914
Speaker 9: on the backside into man to man, so like that,

2533
01:54:08,034 --> 01:54:11,674
Speaker 9: I actually think that that's helped the past protection settle

2534
01:54:11,714 --> 01:54:15,754
Speaker 9: down a little bit. It's less five man slides, moving pockets,

2535
01:54:15,794 --> 01:54:18,474
Speaker 9: things like that. But it's hard, like he has to

2536
01:54:18,514 --> 01:54:21,474
Speaker 9: point out the mics and it's not. None of that

2537
01:54:21,554 --> 01:54:23,554
Speaker 9: is on the quarterback in this offense like it has

2538
01:54:23,674 --> 01:54:25,154
Speaker 9: been in the past, So it's different.

2539
01:54:25,314 --> 01:54:28,154
Speaker 3: Okay, Paul. On the shirt that you're wearing, though, is

2540
01:54:28,194 --> 01:54:29,514
Speaker 3: that that's not a quarters?

2541
01:54:29,674 --> 01:54:30,634
Speaker 4: Is that a half zip?

2542
01:54:30,714 --> 01:54:33,194
Speaker 3: Is that what it's considered low quarters?

2543
01:54:33,234 --> 01:54:34,954
Speaker 4: It's not a quarter, it's a quarter.

2544
01:54:35,554 --> 01:54:37,794
Speaker 3: How can that be a quarter zip? It's only a quarters?

2545
01:54:39,034 --> 01:54:42,594
Speaker 4: Fred hates me? You agree.

2546
01:54:43,114 --> 01:54:44,594
Speaker 6: I think it's at least the third zip.

2547
01:54:44,714 --> 01:54:46,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not that.

2548
01:54:47,394 --> 01:54:48,394
Speaker 9: It's a three quarters zip.

2549
01:54:48,634 --> 01:54:49,674
Speaker 4: This is Fred's half.

2550
01:54:49,874 --> 01:54:50,634
Speaker 6: Fred's a full zip.

2551
01:54:50,634 --> 01:54:51,314
Speaker 3: It's a half sip.

2552
01:54:51,434 --> 01:54:53,714
Speaker 4: I think there's much more shirt at the bottom of the.

2553
01:54:53,834 --> 01:54:56,674
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't count the last you know, that's

2554
01:54:56,714 --> 01:54:58,754
Speaker 3: a half if it goes below your nipples.

2555
01:54:58,794 --> 01:55:00,874
Speaker 4: That's a half zip below the nipples.

2556
01:55:00,994 --> 01:55:03,274
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's below the nipples.

2557
01:55:04,074 --> 01:55:04,594
Speaker 6: It's up here.

2558
01:55:04,634 --> 01:55:06,994
Speaker 4: It's a quarters. A little lower than that.

2559
01:55:07,034 --> 01:55:10,554
Speaker 3: It's a quarter zip. That's a quarter.

2560
01:55:10,794 --> 01:55:12,234
Speaker 9: We've had some good ones today.

2561
01:55:12,314 --> 01:55:13,594
Speaker 4: That's a quarters.

2562
01:55:13,354 --> 01:55:15,674
Speaker 6: It's the full sip guy calling everybody out over here.

2563
01:55:16,954 --> 01:55:19,274
Speaker 4: He's young and hip. Now with the you know little

2564
01:55:19,874 --> 01:55:25,154
Speaker 4: zip zips, you know, sweaterwater, take it out of my murray,

2565
01:55:25,274 --> 01:55:27,674
Speaker 4: you want to you want to wear? Do you want

2566
01:55:27,674 --> 01:55:29,674
Speaker 4: to wear a sweater or a vest? To make up

2567
01:55:29,714 --> 01:55:30,074
Speaker 4: your mind?

2568
01:55:30,114 --> 01:55:31,034
Speaker 3: It's a sweater.

2569
01:55:31,234 --> 01:55:32,674
Speaker 4: It can't decide what it wants to be.

2570
01:55:32,714 --> 01:55:34,834
Speaker 3: Really, Why sleeves.

2571
01:55:34,954 --> 01:55:35,914
Speaker 14: It's funny jacket.

2572
01:55:35,954 --> 01:55:39,234
Speaker 4: It's funny looking. It is weird, it's sweetish, it's definitely.

2573
01:55:40,234 --> 01:55:42,234
Speaker 4: It's definitely the young and hip look.

2574
01:55:42,314 --> 01:55:44,874
Speaker 3: You think, so it is it young and hitting the right?

2575
01:55:45,234 --> 01:55:45,834
Speaker 4: Okay, it is.

2576
01:55:45,874 --> 01:55:46,914
Speaker 6: I'll take that on video.

2577
01:55:46,994 --> 01:55:49,194
Speaker 9: Now he's swist. He's going to be pissed it out.

2578
01:55:49,314 --> 01:55:51,154
Speaker 3: I like it because it's warm. I get cold a

2579
01:55:51,194 --> 01:55:54,314
Speaker 3: lot these days, my extremities.

2580
01:55:54,594 --> 01:56:00,954
Speaker 4: So I you know, we have time it fifty six

2581
01:56:00,994 --> 01:56:06,314
Speaker 4: degrees from now this morning had yeah, no, I had

2582
01:56:06,314 --> 01:56:08,314
Speaker 4: to pull the trigger and put the heat on. Broke

2583
01:56:08,354 --> 01:56:10,714
Speaker 4: the seal. I did. It's going right back off because

2584
01:56:10,714 --> 01:56:12,074
Speaker 4: it's supposed to be like seventy tomorrow.

2585
01:56:12,114 --> 01:56:14,154
Speaker 3: I know, we'll just put it down to like sixty two.

2586
01:56:14,874 --> 01:56:17,794
Speaker 4: The thermostatic. It hasn't been on, no, I know. I

2587
01:56:17,874 --> 01:56:19,994
Speaker 4: just put it on because you know, there was a

2588
01:56:20,034 --> 01:56:21,714
Speaker 4: little fifty six that's a little long.

2589
01:56:21,834 --> 01:56:23,714
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's smell that smell.

2590
01:56:24,114 --> 01:56:27,034
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. Beth left for work this morning, she goes, hey,

2591
01:56:27,034 --> 01:56:28,834
Speaker 4: it was fifty six in the house. Maybe you want

2592
01:56:28,874 --> 01:56:30,434
Speaker 4: to put them I go, why don't you put it

2593
01:56:30,474 --> 01:56:32,314
Speaker 4: on now? She goes, yeah, just shut it off when

2594
01:56:32,314 --> 01:56:34,394
Speaker 4: you go to work. But I didn't. So let's get that.

2595
01:56:34,474 --> 01:56:38,154
Speaker 4: Let's let's warm the house Outmber November first is always

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01:56:38,154 --> 01:56:40,594
Speaker 4: my target date here, and especially now I have no money.

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01:56:40,674 --> 01:56:43,514
Speaker 3: I had to put it on kids in college. Jordan

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01:56:43,594 --> 01:56:44,274
Speaker 3: and Kansas.

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01:56:44,434 --> 01:56:46,634
Speaker 4: We didn't get any you know, the last time.

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01:56:46,714 --> 01:56:49,714
Speaker 3: Everybody else did Jordan and Kansas. Do you think the

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01:56:49,714 --> 01:56:53,314
Speaker 3: Patriots gave Taekwon Thornton a significant amount of reps to

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01:56:53,394 --> 01:56:56,354
Speaker 3: display him for a trade? You obviously didn't show anything

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01:56:56,394 --> 01:57:01,114
Speaker 3: that we already didn't know, but just the thought, I

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01:57:01,154 --> 01:57:01,594
Speaker 3: don't know.

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01:57:02,754 --> 01:57:04,794
Speaker 4: Made a good play. I mean, I know we dropped one,

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01:57:05,154 --> 01:57:06,994
Speaker 4: but the guy was like on the bench for like

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01:57:07,034 --> 01:57:08,954
Speaker 4: a month, comes out he made a big play.

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01:57:08,994 --> 01:57:10,914
Speaker 3: I got big so excited when he got that play

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01:57:10,954 --> 01:57:13,674
Speaker 3: on the crosser. And it's like, okay, use your speed go.

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01:57:13,954 --> 01:57:17,474
Speaker 4: Did you guys missed to look it up?

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01:57:17,914 --> 01:57:20,794
Speaker 9: He only played twelve snaps. Yeah, so I wouldn't necessarily

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01:57:20,834 --> 01:57:22,234
Speaker 9: say it was like a big role.

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01:57:22,394 --> 01:57:24,194
Speaker 6: I justep going back to your thing with him, he

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01:57:24,314 --> 01:57:27,194
Speaker 6: just it doesn't look right. Doesn't look right, like he

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01:57:27,394 --> 01:57:29,954
Speaker 6: doesn't have the right body type and the movement skills

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01:57:30,154 --> 01:57:33,314
Speaker 6: don't there's no suddenness. Do you think if we straight line.

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01:57:33,234 --> 01:57:36,674
Speaker 4: Watch stuff and that's our take, do you think that

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01:57:36,754 --> 01:57:40,514
Speaker 4: people around the league are like, oh yeah, give him

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01:57:40,514 --> 01:57:44,554
Speaker 4: a three. You're getting you're getting a conditional you know,

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01:57:44,794 --> 01:57:46,754
Speaker 4: seventh round pick, sixth round pick.

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01:57:47,874 --> 01:57:51,554
Speaker 9: Be nice than other than Hunter Henry, who again very

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01:57:51,554 --> 01:57:54,034
Speaker 9: good in this game. Like, can one receiver make a

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01:57:54,074 --> 01:57:56,394
Speaker 9: play on the ball for his quarter for the quarterback here,

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01:57:56,714 --> 01:57:58,914
Speaker 9: like and it's not that catch has to be made

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01:57:59,114 --> 01:58:00,634
Speaker 9: either quarterback, Like it's not.

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01:58:00,634 --> 01:58:04,634
Speaker 3: Just it just it just reminds me about, you know,

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01:58:04,754 --> 01:58:08,034
Speaker 3: being an athlete. We're playing bubble football here, Remember we

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01:58:08,114 --> 01:58:10,834
Speaker 3: used to play bubble football. Andy was quarterbacking, and I

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01:58:10,914 --> 01:58:12,594
Speaker 3: ran across Or and he threw the ball to me

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01:58:12,634 --> 01:58:14,914
Speaker 3: and I caught it, but I was having trouble putting

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01:58:14,914 --> 01:58:16,634
Speaker 3: it away. So I'm running it and the ball's like

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01:58:16,714 --> 01:58:19,034
Speaker 3: up here, and and he just goes to be an athlete.

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01:58:20,554 --> 01:58:23,394
Speaker 3: That's what I thought. He's such a be an athlete.

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01:58:23,394 --> 01:58:25,554
Speaker 6: Do you throw that back at him? During the tennis game, or.

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01:58:27,834 --> 01:58:30,594
Speaker 4: Fred was running with the ball like this, like the

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01:58:31,114 --> 01:58:33,474
Speaker 4: point up and right exactly. That's how it was.

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01:58:33,554 --> 01:58:38,714
Speaker 3: I I remember, all right, that's going to be it

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Speaker 3: for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow.

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01:58:41,634 --> 01:58:46,554
Speaker 3: Will turn the page to the Tennessee Titans. Be an athlete,

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Speaker 3: I just I'll never forget. And then he gets into

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01:58:48,514 --> 01:58:51,034
Speaker 3: a fight with somebody. All right, we'll see you tomorrow.

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