1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Thinner out. Okay, how's it going great? Good? Good? Yep. 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: It seemed to have a great respect for Mike Simmer Yeah. 3 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely the point in his career, because he didn't become 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: an head coach for the twenty fourth game, was there 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: a point in his career where he felt he began 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: to establish himself as one of the best coaches in 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the league. Um? Yeah, I mean I heard a lot 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: of great things about it when it was in Dallas 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: and obviously when Cincinnati did a great job there. So yeah, 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect from mIRC. I think 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: he does a tremendous jobs. Teams are always fundamentally sound. 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: He's got great schemes that lets played, good defense, good 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: situational football, tackle well, defeat, blocks, run, force past defense, 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: right area, third down, two minute, you name it. They're 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: always good. They're good Cincinnati. He isn't surprising for you. 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Wouldn't a coach of that caliber doesn't become a head 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: coach until the much later in their career. Yeah, I 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't make those decisions. You have to 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: talk to the people that did do that. I don't. 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: I don't hire coaches, you have to talk to them. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're looking for, so how prevalent 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: and just kind of explain the process if if you 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: could have taken information you get from the players on 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: the field to you know, maybe making any game adjustments 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: or play calls or something like that based off of 26 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: what they're seeing. Yeah, well, sure that many players have 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: a better look at and from where they see it. 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: They have better look at some things that we do, 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: certainly in line play and things like that. Um, So 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: sometimes they can give insight into what's going on out there. Um. 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes we're not sure, we ask them. Sometimes we're sure, 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: they confirm it. Um that we'll go from there. Really, 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: you were talking, I think on WI last week maybe 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: about giving feedback to players and sort of the effectiveness 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: so maybe in front of the team versus doing it individually, 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: and the value in each method. So I guess, how 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: do you decide to which players to meet one on 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: one with? And and I guess could you explain sort 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: of the value and giving feedback in both settings. Well, 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: I think when you're talking to eleven people, they all 41 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: need to understand what the play is, what the concept is, 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: and who's doing what. There's a breakdown on it. Then 43 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: they need to understand what that is. Otherwise they might 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: think they did something wrong and maybe they didn't. Maybe 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: it was another area that needs to be fixed. So 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: or maybe two guys or three guys all need to 47 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: do something a little bit differently for it to work. 48 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: In Amaze, that's just one guy that can fix the problem. 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: So it doesn't necessarily meant to anybody's fault. Sometimes there's 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: a mistake. Sometimes it's we need to coach it better, 51 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: we need to identify and explain it better. There's always 52 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: opportunities to sit down with players individually and just talk 53 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: specifically about what they're doing. That doesn't really relate to 54 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: anybody else. It's just about whatever is when we talk 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: to about them. I imagine you've had a lot of 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: wild ones with Tom, and I know teachers sometimes find 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: that they learn a lot from their students. Do you 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: find that that's fund the piece for you and Tom? 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Are sure? Absolutely? Yeah. Tom's got great understanding of vision 60 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: for the game. He sees a lot of things. I've 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: learned a lot from him. I mean I've learned a 62 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: lot from let's say, probably every player I've coached. You know, 63 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: what they see, how they learn what they do are 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: things that I've been able to take from that. I've 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: learned from what players do and try to teach it 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: to another player and help him get better. So yeah, 67 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean I'm learning every day. Last few ago three 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: time you mentioned grand thing he did it all. How 69 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: did you guys go about valuating him, sort of finding 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: him when he sort of had these I guess the 71 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: limited roles in college their limited He started Scott Ryan, 72 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's Scotta Bryant, Joe Judge, it's those four 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: words of its sum It all up right there. They 74 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: found him. We have a player coming in like that, 75 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,559 Speaker 1: on undrafted guy. What has he done to just allow 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: himself to sort of, you know, have developed into the 77 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: special team like he is played a game. Again, We're 78 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: not that concerned with what everybody does somewhere else. We 79 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: are concerned about it what their contribution is to our team, 80 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: how they can help our team, what their role is, 81 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: and that that determines what their value is. So whether 82 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: guy has or hasn't done whatever it was he did 83 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: or didn't do somewhere else, it's not really as important 84 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: as what he does when he gets here, what kind 85 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: of a role he can establish and how he can 86 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: help the team. So that's we give guys opportunity to 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: do that. As we evaluate him, we sometimes move or 88 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: change what they're doing to try to give them better opportunity. 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: But we think will be the better fit for them, 90 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: um on our team, or give them more versatility to 91 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: create more value for themselves and then let him go 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: do it and coach them and they work hard as 93 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: they get better and we keep going. So the snow 94 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: set formula just leading the team and the special teams 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: tap as issues how much growth and you ssue I 96 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: they would in that area. That now is the ad mode. Oh, 97 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: he's he's a versatile player. He's a tough matchup m 98 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: guy for our opponents and he's a good matchup guy 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: for us. He can handle speed, he can handle size. Um, 100 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: they can play inside, he can play outside, they can 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: play the perimeter positions, he can play the inside positions. 102 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: You know on punts and kickoffs, kickoff returns and punt returns. 103 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: So um, you know he's done all those things. Sometimes 104 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: we put them and that probably the position it's best 105 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: for him. Sometimes he does what we need because we 106 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: have depth and the position that maybe he's been working 107 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: in but he has more versatility than somebody else. He's 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: got a great attitude, he works hard, he understands what 109 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: he's doing in the complimentary positions, So a lot of 110 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: times when he moves, he's able to help the person 111 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: who took his spot, um with what they're doing because 112 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: that's where he played. So us He's got a lot 113 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: of versatility and uh, you know the matchup a size, speed, aggressiveness, 114 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: and instincts to be very good in the kicking game. 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: So outstand, I'm big coaching a long time. You appreciates 116 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Keep reminding me of that every Frinday. We got it, 117 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: We got it. Appreciate these opportunities now more. Um, you know, 118 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: the laden season, to be able to pick up things 119 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: eight and three, to be competing, to have a chance 120 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs, to go you did when 121 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: you were young, or just seeing now hard to us 122 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: to get into this care Yeah, it's in all. Honestly, 123 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: I've tried to appreciate every game I've coached in this league, 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: whether it was an assistant coach, a head coach, first 125 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: game of the year, last game of the year. Um, really, 126 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: it's an honor to v inn this league. It's hard 127 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: to be in this league. It's hard to stay in 128 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: this league. Um, it's a production league, and if you're 129 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: not productive, then somebody else will be something else to 130 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: be doing your job. We all know that when we 131 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: sign up for it. Whether you're a player or coach, 132 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: whatever your role, assistant, coach, head, coach, coordinator, it doesn't matter. 133 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: It's a production league. So I'm thankful for the opportunity 134 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: we have this week, and you know, let's try to 135 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: do the best I can with it. Worry about next week. 136 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Next week. Jacy Jackson hasn't started a game yet this year, 137 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: so it's easy offended game any way through how he 138 00:07:54,400 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: respond to those situations that would be secure game. We 139 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: played players in different rotations throughout practice and so it's 140 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: who starts, who finishes, who plays in the middles. Most 141 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: important thing is when you get an opportunity to play, 142 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: to go in there and be productive and help the team. 143 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: So that's we don't necessarily know how that's gonna go. 144 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: They don't know how it's gonna go. We don't know 145 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: how the games they're gonna go. Um, but if everybody's 146 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: ready or whatever, they get the opportunity and they go 147 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: in there and don't do what they're prepared to do, so, 148 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: whether that's him or anybody else. So, I mean, we 149 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: don't really even focus on that. I don't know. I mean, 150 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: maybe that's important to some people. Probably is, but it's 151 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: not really very high on our list. I mean, honestly, 152 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: the most important things who's in there at the end 153 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: of the game, not who's in there at the beginning. 154 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: Two obsessions. He had ball skills, and these shows in 155 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: practice a day. Ball skills, yes, I'm sure you saw 156 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: in training camp and his hands on a lot of 157 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: balls in training camp, intercepted balls. So good ball skills, 158 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: good instincts. Fice loose for the year. In the Chicago game, 159 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: comes back dat he had a couple of penalties to 160 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: he's gay. They should have been called, maybe they shouldn't. 161 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: But then he comes back and makes a kick interception 162 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: and suons go what a bad play behind him? Quickly, 163 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: which is you know, seems to be good trade for 164 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: obviously a cornerback. It's a great trade for a cornerback. 165 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: It's a good trade for every player, but that's definitely 166 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: a cornerback. Yeah. Um, he's a very competitive player. Again, 167 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: he's shown that since the beginning of training camp, all 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: the way back in the spring actually you know, as 169 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: a as an undrafted free agent. So you know, he 170 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: came in here with without a lot of fanfare or 171 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, outside expectations, just came in. It's worked hard 172 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: every day, it's been durable, dependable, and he's gotten better 173 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: every day. He takes coaching, he works hard at what 174 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: he needs to do to get better, and he does it. 175 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: He improves. So yeah, he's been competitive all the way through. 176 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: He signed players in the draft to free agent earlier 177 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: because he's a good good trade kickball. Are there are 178 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: certain traits that you might ignore that you might not ignore. 179 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: That was the other player that you it's going to 180 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: draft that. Hum, No, I don't think so. I think 181 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: you're still looking for the same thing. I mean, you know, again, 182 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: we get into those six seventh round, there's probably twenty players, 183 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: call it, I don't know whatever the number is. Fifteen 184 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: twenty players that are up there that you can probably 185 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: make case for any of them. Some of it's draft strategy, 186 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: like if we don't draft this player, we know he's 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: not going to be available as a free agent, or 188 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: maybe he is. We know he is going to be 189 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: available as a free agent. If we don't draft on 190 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: him and we feel like we have a shot at him, 191 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: maybe it's a need or some other set of circumstances. 192 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: Not saying that those are all interchangeable, but I think 193 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: on our board, like a lot of other draft boards, 194 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: at that point, there are another number of different ways 195 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: that you could go and and a lot of times 196 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: those players have sent it's called grades on them. You know, 197 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: certainly there's a reason why you take one guy ahead 198 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: of another. There's good reasons for that. But in the end, 199 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: a lot of those players, um I would say, have 200 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: similar grades, and their opportunities are relatively similar. There's people 201 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: ahead of them, and if they cannot perform those people, 202 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: then they do. If they can't, then next year somebody 203 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: else comes in there gets that opportunity. So whether you 204 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: take a quarterback in the sixth round or a quarterback 205 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: who's going to be a wide receiver in the seventh round, 206 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: or whatever relative round Edelman was in, or did guys 207 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: like that, you just some of those, you you draft, 208 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: some of them, you you get it at the other end, 209 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, the Jacob Hollister's the Malcolm Butler's the J. C. 210 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Jackson's We've had those guys every year. Sometimes you take guys, 211 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, Nate Dner or Joe Cardona mats later you 212 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: guys a draft those Brandon King doesn't get drafted. You know. 213 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: That's but that that I would say those level of 214 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: players college level, not pro level. When you're when you're 215 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: putting a grade on him, a lot of those players 216 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: have a have a similar grade six seventh round free agents. 217 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: So when you get to free agency, if you have 218 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: a guy that has the same grade as a guy 219 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: you drafted in the sixth round, and you try to 220 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: get him, and it's not that surprising when he comes 221 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: in and is as competitive, sometimes more competitive than than 222 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: the player you drafted because you had him grade and 223 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: the same. Again, for whatever reasons, you took one guy 224 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: ahead of another. But in the end um there we 225 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: value with their their ability similar and then obviously as 226 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: they play then that then those grades are are no 227 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: longer valid. What's valid is what the performances um. Yeah, again, 228 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of circumstances and sometimes you just go 229 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: with what the information you have, is what your instinct is, 230 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: and we have a lot of experience in this some 231 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: guys you know, we're going to get drafted based on 232 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: the amount of activity or other. Wherever you've journed, there's 233 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: a lot of places to get information from. However you 234 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: get that information doesn't mean you're right. It's just you 235 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: gotta go with what you go with. So sometimes you 236 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: you go with that. Sometimes you think you lay's not 237 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: going to get drafted and are shot of free agency. 238 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: We've been right, we've been wrong on that. You know, 239 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: at Castle, we thought he definitely would have gotten drafted 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: were signed with somebody else had we not drafted him, 241 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: even though we didn't really think he was going to 242 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: get drafted me through thirty some passes in college, but 243 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: there was enough activity on him, and certainly people knew 244 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: about him that had been at SC, that we're in 245 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: the league, that m had shown interest, that you know, 246 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: had a prior relationship with him, which we didn't. So 247 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: as an example, we drafted him because we didn't think 248 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: we'd be able to get him as a free agent. 249 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: When you're evaluating a college player, how important is it 250 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: to know the system that they're operating? Its busted play. 251 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: You can call your friend Nick Saban and ask him, 252 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: maybe what happened on it, whether the player evaluating was 253 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: that fall. Yeah, again, there's there's not a lot of um, 254 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of situations that really fall into 255 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: that category. But regardless, Look, everybody has busted plays. We 256 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: haven't in college, we have them in the NFL. We 257 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: have him on our team. We haven't in training camp. Um, 258 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: and certainly are the coaches, the head coach and all 259 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: the assistant coaches. We've all had plenty of busted plays too. 260 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I think in the end, when you 261 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: take a player, you take a player based on you know, 262 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: where you think he'll be for your to what he 263 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: can do for your team, and that's why we draft him. 264 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: We draft him to help our team. So and not 265 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: all of them work out. It's an imperfect science, but 266 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: when you take you have an expectation that the player 267 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: is going to be able to help your team in 268 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: some capacity. Obviously, guys in the first round, in the 269 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: third round or seventh round, I mean, the expectation levels 270 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: a little bit different. But in the end, once they're here, 271 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: they're here. It doesn't matter how they got here. If 272 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: they came as free and sort they came in the 273 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: first round, or it came in a fourth round trade 274 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: or what doesn't matter. However they get here. They get here, 275 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: and then you evaluated once you're here and see what 276 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: they could do for your team. Blomes it across over 277 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: film on the bankings this year, have you noticed stadium 278 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: food home cousins. In his first year in that system, 279 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: he's had a pretty good year. He's had a really 280 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: productive year in all areas high completion percentage efficient, He 281 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: gets the ball to I mean, look, there's some guys 282 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: that are really targeted because they're really good players. But 283 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean he gets the ball to all his receivers, 284 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: gets the ball to his backs, uses the tight ends, 285 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: obviously Rudolph more than you know, then Conklin and Morgan 286 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: who's been hurt, but you know, certainly use them. He's 287 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: used all all of those receivers. I mean, Baby's been productive. 288 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's missed a couple of games, but Robinson's 289 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: been productive. I got a lot of him tread well. 290 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: So those guys are he's done a good job of that, 291 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: and I think they certainly he's gotten the ball out 292 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: and made quick decisions. So you know, that's offensive line 293 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: that's certainly the timing of the passing game helps the 294 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: offensive line. We know that does a good job there. 295 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: I think he's had a good year. I mean, this 296 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: is going to be you know, four highly productive years 297 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: in a row for him, three in Washington and one 298 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: in Minnesota where he's going to be, you know, near 299 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: the top of the league and in a lot of 300 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: important categories. So it's pretty consistent. You know. I'm sure 301 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: it probably continue to get better, but it's it's a 302 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: pretty high level right now. He's a smart guy, and 303 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: he's a tough kid, and he's you know, have a 304 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: lot of respect for him. It's another guy who's kind 305 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: of come up, you know, the hard way, earn earned 306 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: his stripes. Um, but he's given him anything, he's got 307 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: to go out there and earn it and he has. 308 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: Do you know that the Patriots invited a German media 309 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: team for that game to commentate the game from one side. 310 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: One of your former players, Will were commentated in German 311 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: and German. Yeah, we've we've heard him. We've heard him 312 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: commentating German before, so I'm not what he's saying, but yeah, yeah, 313 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: he did that as part of a rookie show. He 314 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: imitated me and like gave a like talk to the team. 315 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Of course, he wasn't going to say what I was 316 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: saying in English, but he's you know, kind of making 317 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: fun of me and saying what I would say in German. 318 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Of course he's only want to understood it. But you know, 319 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty that's pretty entertaining. I just want it's a 320 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: good rookie s getting unrolling, trying to learnating German. Yeah 321 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: I can, Okay, great, see you Sunday. 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