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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, which is they were still in London.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas and I am joined in

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Speaker 1: a room filled with Here was Mark Sesler, Chris Wesley

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Speaker 1: and Greg Rosal. What is that boys? Hey? Dan, I

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Speaker 1: big sea. Knock on wood, knock on wood, and uh,

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Speaker 1: football season is in full swing. Good games, good bros,

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Speaker 1: good bruise. The fact and that you overcame that cold

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Speaker 1: that you overcame that was fine. This is more recent

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Speaker 1: Dan is the one I would point to and just say,

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Speaker 1: was that was the open So you're subverting it. That's

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Speaker 1: But he's right, Greg's right, Um, and a crazy weeks

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Speaker 1: He starts cooling, he's off, he pulls off, behaves one

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Speaker 1: deep to the end zone. That ball sailing toward the

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Speaker 1: goal on it's cap by White. White is caught and

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Speaker 1: wrapped up short of the goal on and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: are going to win. But that close to a hail

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Speaker 1: Mary and an answered prayer for Chicago. See, there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a little hint of joylessness starting to set in

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Speaker 1: around New England about this football team. I feel that

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Speaker 1: there's like there wasn't any celebration or just like that

436
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: was close. We went again, turned the page. Well you

437
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Speaker 1: give up like a fifty five yard hail Mary to

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Speaker 1: the one if you have mixed emotions in that moment,

439
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: probably because you're like, what does happen? You don't see

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Speaker 1: that too much? Bob sotein scot Zolac with a little

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Speaker 1: U color in there with the Patriots Radio network. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Mitch Drovsky's desperation midfield. He even the final seconds bounded receiver,

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Speaker 1: but Kevin White got stopped at the one. A cruel

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Speaker 1: ending for the team of a t N and business

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Speaker 1: as usual for Operation Fake Pony am I right marks.

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Speaker 1: Finals score thirty eight thirty one in favor of the Patriots,

447
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Speaker 1: who won despite Gronk staying back in uh New England

448
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Speaker 1: with injuries West. The Bears jumped out to an early

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Speaker 1: lead in this game. How did the Patriots take control?

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Speaker 1: Special teams? Um? They came out on the opening drive

451
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Speaker 1: and it was Sonny Michelle and James White, a lot

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Speaker 1: of what it's been for the past month on a

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Speaker 1: nice seventy five played drive in which there was no

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Speaker 1: resistance it seemed to whatsoever from the Bears defense. And

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Speaker 1: then uh, they lose Sony Michelle to a on a

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Speaker 1: plan which he fumbled and twisted his knee and it

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Speaker 1: was the second fumble. It put them in a seventeen

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Speaker 1: seven hole, and then special teams took over Cordello Patterson's

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Speaker 1: nine five yard kickoff return touchdown, his the sixth of

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Speaker 1: his career, and then Donte Hi Tower, who might be

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Speaker 1: the only linebacker running like a five still making plays,

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Speaker 1: blocked a punt and then Kyle Vannoy picked it up,

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Speaker 1: randing in for a touchdown. Patriots really never looked back

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Speaker 1: after that. I'm looking at Josh Gordon becoming a bigger

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Speaker 1: part of this offense every week, and they need him

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Speaker 1: to be playing more snaps now than now. He's clearly

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Speaker 1: in the top two receivers in terms of snaps, basically

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Speaker 1: playing every snaps and making big plays in this game

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Speaker 1: for for a hundred, which led the team. It could

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Speaker 1: have been like six D fifty or a hundred sixty.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady threw one over the middle that was at

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Speaker 1: at Josh Gordon's shoelaces when he was wide open, and

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Speaker 1: there was another play on the sideline where Brady threw

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Speaker 1: behind him and he was only able to get a

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Speaker 1: fingertip on it or two. Um I think those could

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Speaker 1: have been Josh Gordon's fault for running the route wrong.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but the rapport is still not where

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Speaker 1: it needs to be. And yet you can see Gordon's

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Speaker 1: talent um which is no surprise to Mark of course,

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Speaker 1: but on a fifty five yard tackle breaking catch and

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Speaker 1: run on towards the end of the game really set

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Speaker 1: up James White's touchdown to give them the thirty eight

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Speaker 1: points to overcome that hamstring injury that forced him out

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Speaker 1: of Cleveland. James White, as each week goes on, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of get going higher in the New England sports pantheon.

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Speaker 1: He's a captain, He's that guy. He's one of their

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Speaker 1: captains on this team. And you can see why he

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Speaker 1: had a career hunt nineteen touches today because they lost

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Speaker 1: um Sony Michelle and Kenyan Barner was there between between

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Speaker 1: the tackles. Runner he's like five or whatever they needed

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Speaker 1: running back. I think they'll probably sign like Mike Gillisli, Right,

492
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Speaker 1: where are we at on the trade for someone? Where

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Speaker 1: are we at on the team of around the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Do we like what we're seeing from him? Since here's

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Speaker 1: what's going on. They've given up sixty nine points the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks to the Dolphins and Patriots with Cleio

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Speaker 1: Mac playing through an ankle injury. It's not just Trabiskie

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Speaker 1: who was way off the mark today on his throws.

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Speaker 1: Um he missed by a foot or two on some

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Speaker 1: throws that could have really made this game different. But

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Speaker 1: his legs were a huge fact during this game. He

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Speaker 1: rushed for eighty one yards and uh sort of be

503
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Speaker 1: deviled the Patriots defense, which had made his scrambling ability

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Speaker 1: a focal point. He had a beautiful touchdown run and

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Speaker 1: on the ground. I feel like he's a top three

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Speaker 1: quarterback on the ground. But I remain somewhat mystified by

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Speaker 1: anything he attempts to do through the year for the

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Speaker 1: most part, and yet he's putting up numbers and that

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Speaker 1: credit goes to Matt and Aggy. I think it's been

510
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Speaker 1: a great higher Ultimately, the formula for them is not

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Speaker 1: and I know there was two special teams touchdowns today.

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Speaker 1: You give up yards one first downs to the Patriots,

513
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Speaker 1: maybe that's not a terrible performance. But ultimately the offense

514
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Speaker 1: is kind of doing their job. The last two weeks,

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Speaker 1: they've they've put up enough points for the most part.

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Speaker 1: You would expect the defense to be able to do

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Speaker 1: enough to win these last two weeks, and they haven't

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Speaker 1: been able to. And with this fourth straight win for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, Greg they are now currently and it's very early,

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Speaker 1: obviously slotted in as the number two seed in the

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Speaker 1: a f C. Gonna keep that by streak alive. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Charges right behind him though, also tied five

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Speaker 1: and two. Uh, let's move on more wild endings. Blake, look,

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Speaker 1: they blitz, he gets hit, runs out of the air,

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Speaker 1: made a man miss on the bubble. Blake has fumbled

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Speaker 1: the ball again and the Texans have recovered the Blake

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Speaker 1: portals fumbled near the twelve yard line of Jacksonville. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this wasn't a crazy endy Frank Frangie with the call

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Speaker 1: for Jacks Radio Network, But what that was was the

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Speaker 1: last play of the game for Blake Bortles. The Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans became the latest team to shut down the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: on offense, and this time it costs. Blake is spot

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Speaker 1: in the line up. The Jacks quarterback benched after a

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Speaker 1: third quarter fumble, backup Cody Kessler unable to launch a

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Speaker 1: comeback effort. Houston the victory over Jacksonville in Jacksonville. Four

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Speaker 1: straight wins for the Texans after that, oh and three

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Speaker 1: start and uh. The Jaguars meanwhile, have lost I believe

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Speaker 1: four or five. Now is that where we are with

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Speaker 1: the Jacks? Uh? And they are trappanie the rubble of

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Speaker 1: another Bortles apocalypse. But let us not again forget that

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Speaker 1: this is not all Bordles. The defense, which was turnover

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Speaker 1: crazy last year, and those are one of those things

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Speaker 1: that's very hard to reproduce. But they weren't. They struggled,

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Speaker 1: uh to make game changing plays on defense. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I believe they're negative twelve minus twelve for the year

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Speaker 1: in the turnover battle, which is just the polar opposite

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Speaker 1: of what this team was able to do with their

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Speaker 1: ball control offense and their opportunistic defense last year. Um.

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Speaker 1: But what is the problem with the Jaguars. Well, Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ramsey is the superstar cornerback of the Jags. As you

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Speaker 1: might imagine frustration setting in in Jacksonville, and he was asked,

552
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Speaker 1: what's the issue, what's going on with the Jags? Y'all?

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00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Walk in here, y'all. See how it is in here, y'all. See. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've vibed with each other, y'all. See how we've vibed

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00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: towards the coaches, y'all. I'll see how it is. There's

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Speaker 1: no secret what's going on here right now? Ain't nobody

557
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: gonna say is? You know? We can't, but it ain't.

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Speaker 1: No secret was going on and it ain't. It ain't

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Speaker 1: right right now? Well, the greg the Jalen Ramsey spent

560
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Speaker 1: the offseason firing away at quarterbacks across the league. Was

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Speaker 1: this a shot at his own? It was, and maybe

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Speaker 1: uh a deflection from what the media members saw when

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Speaker 1: a door opened. I loved how this played out social

564
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: media that the Jaguars pr opened the door to open

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Speaker 1: the locker room for postgame interviews and they saw an

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Speaker 1: interaction where Clais Campbell is holding back Unique and Goquay

567
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Speaker 1: who was trying to get after someone. And then they

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Speaker 1: just closed the door back up, and so I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's yelling at who. And Gaku was

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Speaker 1: involved in August with a fight with Dante Fowler, which

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Speaker 1: got Fowler suspend. There's been a little bit of bad

572
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: juju around this team for a while. I'd be like

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00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: last year's Jaguars were very much a unified US against

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Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL, US against all our doubters,

575
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: US against the world, and they maximized that with a

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Speaker 1: trip deep in the playoffs this year. Because you're there

577
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Speaker 1: was a lot of young players on this team too,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's a reflection of coaching

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Speaker 1: or what's happening in general, it's become the Jaguars versus

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00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Like that's not unusual for stuff to happen

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, but what happened today what they described,

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Speaker 1: feels like a tipping point moment where now you've gotta

583
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Speaker 1: roll into London and face a desperate Eagles team as well.

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Speaker 1: If you're three and four and you're the Jaguars and

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Speaker 1: you and you've lose that game, you're three and five

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Speaker 1: in a still winnable division, but you have to question

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Speaker 1: what their DNA would be going forward. In the a

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Speaker 1: f C, Doug Marone explained that he benched Bortles because

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Speaker 1: he simply didn't have the manpower to bench all eleven

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, So we wanted to

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Speaker 1: send a message by benching the starting quarterback. And I

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Speaker 1: get that, but it's still to me a major departure

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Speaker 1: from their philosophy of ignoring the quarterback problem and doing

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Speaker 1: everything to try to cater to Blake Bortle's confidence. This

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Speaker 1: to me, maybe it gets in Bartle's head, but what

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Speaker 1: I mean is that canna actually make him play any worse?

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Speaker 1: Well is he? Is he gonna play next week? Or

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Speaker 1: does Cody Kessler start in London. I wouldn't expect that,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know from from the way Maron's comments sounded.

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Speaker 1: This was just a message center and Bordles will be

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00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: right back understanding because it doesn't have any other options.

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Speaker 1: Cody Kesler is not going to save the ship here.

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00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: And they banged themselves. They did, and they it was

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Speaker 1: irresponsible for them and this is not Monday Morning quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Everybody said the same thing. Why are they going into

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Speaker 1: the season all in on Blake Bortles. I tweeted about

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Speaker 1: it during the game. Why isn't Teddy Bridgewater on this

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Speaker 1: team right now? Either they would, they could have signed

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Speaker 1: them during free agency or traded for him and given

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Speaker 1: up a third round pick or even a second round

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Speaker 1: pick to get some more protection at the most important

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Speaker 1: position of the game. And now they're just floating. Especially

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Speaker 1: back in March when if you're if you were the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars management, you viewed yourself as a super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: You didn't know these defensive problems we're gonna happen. You

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Speaker 1: look like you were a player away, and you did

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Speaker 1: nothing but extend Blake Bortles and put a bunch of

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Speaker 1: pr around it to make it seem like we're the

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Speaker 1: right ones here. Maybe Bridgewater is not the best quarterback

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Speaker 1: for their system, maybe they're people don't believe in him. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's worth pointing out the Saints saw

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Speaker 1: themselves as a contender and went out and picked up

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Speaker 1: insurance for the quarterback, and the Jaguars said, our quarterback

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Speaker 1: is too mentally fragile to handle insurance. Well, they've they've

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00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: benched Portos before, and so I don't know if like

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Speaker 1: he thinks that that result was so good that they

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Speaker 1: wanted to repeat it. There was I found a headline

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Speaker 1: from last auguste where it said Blake bortles career in

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Speaker 1: the NFL maybe over. And that was the day that

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Speaker 1: they bench Blake Bortles for Chad Henny late in the

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Speaker 1: preseason last year, and everyone assumed Chad Henny would wind

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Speaker 1: up being the Week one starter. It didn't even happen

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Speaker 1: that the benching basically ended up. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was just symbolic or what it was. And then

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Speaker 1: Bortles came out and had a good season. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it was. Had season. He his NFL career

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Speaker 1: is continuing though he had a good season by Bortles,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point. Parameters and the Texans who said,

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Speaker 1: oh in three, uh start end your season. They are

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Speaker 1: in good shape and they're still figuring it out. I

641
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: don't think this team their first place them they're all

642
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: alone in the first place now and there there's still

643
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: a lot of room for them to get betther Lamar

644
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: Miller even showed up in this game. West's telling you

645
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: something in a touchdown and Will Fuller looks like he's

646
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: over that hamstring. Injury. I've maintained that he's really important

647
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: to that offense. Uh. By the way, two time making

648
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: the leap candidate Lamar Miller, he doubled up that. Remember

649
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: I wrote it once and there was another one. Huh

650
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: West wrote the first round one and you feels like

651
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: it was very strong. Doubling back around like an administrative error.

652
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: Potentially you're very actually more of a bit on the

653
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: even on the podcast, we started to talk to you like,

654
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm going back to Lamar. That's fine. I mean, it's

655
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: all ridiculous. Uh, let's move on. Snap is down and

656
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: the kick is up and it is no good. The

657
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: kick is no good. Justin Tucker mrs the extra point

658
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: twenty four seconds left and the Saints up miss unbelievable.

659
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: He missed it. You guys like figuring it out the fly?

660
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: Tell me about it, John Dude, Zach Streef and Deuce

661
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: McAllister Steve Yeller w w L with the call. Justin

662
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: Tucker missed the first p A t attempt of his

663
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: career in the Ravens. So uh, potential scoring touchdown with

664
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: twenty four seconds to play mean nothing because Drew Brees

665
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: in the New Orleans Saints escape within Justin Tucker, this

666
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: is the extra point late in the game, was first

667
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: miss of his career. West how why no? No? Uh?

668
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: You right before that play said watch this right down

669
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: the middle, He's gonna split the upright, No chance he misses.

670
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: You're the reason, you know. I feel like I literally

671
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: split my favorite. Um. I wanted. I wanted to see

672
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: that the Ravens defense was not a mirage and they

673
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: could do it against a good offense. Um. And I'm

674
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: not ready to make any grand sweeping statements. This was

675
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: not a referendum on the Ravens defense. They held the

676
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 1: Saints to twelve fewer points than normal, ninety fewer yards

677
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: than normal. They were in control all game, and Drew

678
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: Brees made plays. Give him credit on third and fourth

679
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: down late in the third quarter, early in the fourth quarter,

680
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: middle of the fourth quarter. He made the plays and

681
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense didn't. But it's still to me like

682
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: this game could have gone either way. Definitely could have

683
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: gone either way. And I'm not ready to think any

684
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: differently about the Ravens after this game. No. I made

685
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: sort of a a joking point to start the podcast

686
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: about all these close games you nailed it too. It

687
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: was very funny. Yeah, thank you very much. I just

688
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: wanted to bring that up. That's that's my entire point now. Uh.

689
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: But really in all of these games, it's true like

690
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: where there's gonna be so many takeaways in every newspaper

691
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: on each side, and we're gonna, you know, feel so

692
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: differently about all of these teams because of how one

693
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: or two plays, and it's really like there's there's not

694
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: much to it other than you know, luck is the

695
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: biggest factor I think in wins and last is when

696
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: teams and games are this close. And it's still impressive

697
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: to me though, that the Saints put themselves in that

698
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: position where it was a coin flip game and that

699
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: it was up to Breeze to make those sort of places,

700
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: because I think that's a tough place to go to

701
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: win in Baltimore and show you can win that type

702
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: of game, which is seventeen six at one point, that's impressive.

703
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: One thing about the Saints that I found unimpressive was

704
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: the fact that they totaled out a bunch of like

705
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: foot and handwarmers uh to their sideline when it was

706
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: fifty two degrees out. Really, so you don't worried about

707
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: them in January if they don't, just I think it

708
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 1: was a little on the nose to like to to

709
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: to need that or to require twelve games. You're saying,

710
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: we stay in you're a little pretty, you know side home?

711
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: Why why why try to be uh? I try to

712
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: be too proud? Just be warm? Haven't The Saints have

713
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: won two games this year because of missed extra points.

714
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Right the Browns game? Right the Browns game had multiple

715
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: disasters happening from a special teams angle. Drew Brees by

716
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: the way historic uh touchdown past number five hundred in

717
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: this one. I mean, so he's pretty we get it

718
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: because he's in that point in his career where's sort

719
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: of breaking something in the record book every week and

720
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: then they like bring out a paper certificate. It's like,

721
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: we we appreciate this player, but I don't need to

722
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: hear about the updated records. Mark Mark hang On, he

723
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: set the all time passing yarded record. Nobody in the

724
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: history of the game had ever done it. That was

725
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: one record, and this was his five hundred touchdown. Only

726
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: like three guys have done that. That's great, but we

727
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: know Drew Brees is good. This isn't. Basically, this is

728
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: a flaw on this podcast. And I made a point

729
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: to bring this up to five touchdown because you guys

730
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: are completely like allergic to ever giving out credit for

731
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: anything that that that awards longevity of greatness and that

732
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: we don't career. This isn't baseball, but like counting history

733
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: of being allergic to longevity and listen to what just

734
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns doesn't mean anything. That's not what I said. I

735
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: said we don't need the stats to know that he's

736
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: in a long, great career. He's go It's not how

737
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: football works. The game film works in football, not the stats.

738
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: They both work, so they don't because we're playing in

739
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: an era that completely negates the passing stats of other

740
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: eras or vice versa. I think everyone here has great

741
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: points and I don't even know where this comes down.

742
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Are you coming back to your opening comments on the

743
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: you did a great job about it again. Drew Brees

744
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: set another record today or tied one that keeps getting

745
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: which is the radar, which is that he is now?

746
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: I think the third quarterback to defeat all thirty two

747
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: teams in that one in the end. I don't, Yeah,

748
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: I get, I don't need that one that one he

749
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: did or the Saints did right exactly. Uh, Joe Flacco though,

750
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: no flucco. That was a nice drive that's gonna get

751
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: lost in this. And John Brown went over a hundred

752
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: with a touch, So the Ravens had a nice comeback

753
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: there all gets wiped away. And yes, Justin Tucker and

754
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: May a hundred and twelve straight extra points the only

755
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: kicker without a miss since they moved the extra point back.

756
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem right that they have the same record

757
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: as the Texans. We should just know we're talking about

758
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: Tucker now. It's just in saying like four and three

759
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: stand with Tucker. He made the first two tries of

760
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: his career. Here's what he had to say. I I said,

761
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I know, Justin, I know he's gonna be a stand

762
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: up guy. And he was the first guy at the podium.

763
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: Every kicker, every football player, is going to come across

764
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: a moment, uh, the challenging moment um. You know, every

765
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: kicker is gonna if you play long enough, you're gonna

766
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: have a kick that you want back. And tonight was

767
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: that night for me. Uh. The only thing that we

768
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: can do is just go to work and try to

769
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: make you know the best out of a bad situation. UM.

770
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate the efforts on my teammates putting

771
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: us in a position to extend the game. UM, and

772
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: unfortunately I just wasn't able to put the ball through

773
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: the upright? Can we stop handing out lollipops for having

774
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: a press conferences? I've seen this in a few places

775
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I like no one's given lollipops to

776
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: Cam Newton for showing up looking like Mr Peanut after

777
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: the latest Panthers Lassie does it every week? Give me

778
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: a break? Can I just say a little bit worried

779
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: about Justin Tucker's eyeballs exploding out of his head after

780
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: the miss um? So let's see how he reacts to this.

781
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: This is the ultimate test of kicker confidence. Will Justin

782
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Tucker be lights out next week's Let's move on, Matthew

783
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: take spakes to give with the Garrett Washington brow does

784
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: gotta bad wide open that don't touchdown? The tart Lions

785
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Michael Roberts, Dan Miller w j R. With

786
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: the call Matt Stafford eighteen seventeen and two touches including

787
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: that touchdown. You just heard carry On Johnson. Remember all

788
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: the lines that can't get on hunder yard rusher. How

789
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: about a buck fifty eight for Carrie on Johnson. Lines

790
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: went over two hundred as a team on the ground

791
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: win over the Dolphins in Miami. Mark the Lions have

792
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: climbed back to five hundred after that ugly start to

793
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: their season. How have they done it well? I mean

794
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: what they did today is to to what you mentioned

795
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: is being able to absolutely lash the Dolphins on the

796
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: ground a very Unlions like quality. And it was not

797
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: something where you know, you have brock Osweiler again and

798
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: all the songs and draping surrounding bro October and business.

799
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: He was not that the reason the Dolphins. Okay, it's fun.

800
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: He didn't win, so yeah, he doesn't get a big party.

801
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's soon gonna be brock bur and I

802
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: think that the longer he's in there, the less appealing

803
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: this Dolphins team will be. But I don't not Greg

804
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: what is going on with the Ryan Tannehill thing. I

805
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: find this mystifying attitude that he's out for It sounds

806
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: like he's out for at least a couple of weeks

807
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: and they're going to reevaluate and they're they're saying, now

808
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: he does not need surgery, but it's it's troubling if

809
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: you're Ryan Tannehill or his agent or no, he did not.

810
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: He did not. In fact, he made some of the

811
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: throws that brock Osweiler made in this game are throws

812
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: he never made with the Texans or in his you know,

813
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: summer with the Browns. Whatever that was about. I mean,

814
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: he he looked like a different quarterback, and I think

815
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: that has a lot of you. I think it's Adam Gaze,

816
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: but Adam Gaze at the same time seems to have

817
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: plenty of issues because for Davante Parker, who is inactive

818
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: and had an injury at some point before, Parker's agent

819
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: came out after the game and said, basically, you're an

820
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: offense that needs wide receiver help. You guys are averaging

821
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: six point one yards per pass catch, and you have

822
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: taken my player and deactivated him and essentially said that

823
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: he has lied about the injury status of this wide receiver,

824
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: which is a very bizarre thing to come out of

825
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: an ugly loss for the Dolphins. He flat out called

826
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: Adam Gas incompetent, who okay, I thought that like a

827
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: coach or something. I mean, that's that's that's trying hard

828
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: to get traded. They have a Thursday night game coming

829
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: up where they might need Devonte Parker. So I don't

830
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: know if the Dolphins will take that bait because I

831
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: don't know who's given up a great pick for DeVante Parker. Meanwhile,

832
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: the Lions are three and three. They're right there with

833
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: the Bears in that in that conference. They're only one

834
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: game out of the leader a game and a half.

835
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: The Lions. I mean, after a rough start, they're not

836
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: they're not that bad off. I mean, oh, hey, listen,

837
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: you know we don't like records, but I got another

838
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: one for you. Wess just tied the all time locker record.

839
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: That's seven straight dubs to open the season. You did

840
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: it again, Yeah, the first time I picked a road team.

841
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: Do you like that type of longevity? To go almost

842
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: two months without a loss? Is that? Does that get

843
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: you going? With? That does get me going? We're gonna

844
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: take it week to week in the Westland, and you

845
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: pick the right I think home teams are three and nine.

846
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: If you're like, if you're Alliance fan and you look

847
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: and you have four d and fifty seven yards on

848
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: only fifty eight plays and you ran the ball thirty

849
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: five times. I mean, we're cooking. You're cooking with gas. Here.

850
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: We talk a lot about teams change identities during the season.

851
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna be a run heavy team,

852
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: but Stafford has been very efficient the last few weeks,

853
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: and this team is changing as they go. And who

854
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: knows for all this attention on the quarterback situation in

855
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Miami Oswaller and Tannehill, what about a defense that pretty

856
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: much got steam rolled today West When you win these

857
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: locks and you go home on a Sunday night and

858
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: the paramours there she's home from work. Is there a

859
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: little bit of it's like I want added extra attention

860
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: in a good way between you two. Is she just

861
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: like this guy is up that has never happened? Um? Yeah,

862
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: but the lock has not been discussed on Sunday nights

863
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: after a long PA. This is so not maybe not

864
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: on her radar the way she even aware? Is she

865
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: even aware of your she is aware of the luck

866
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: She listens to the podcast, she's quietly you've you've correctly

867
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: predicted seven straight games to start the season. Seven or oh?

868
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: Is this gonna be like, um, a no hitter in baseball,

869
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: where we're not gonna even like sit near you because

870
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: you have to stay by yourself. We don't want to

871
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: jinx you like because you're very hot right now. And

872
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: this is this is unpreced at the territory. No, I

873
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: would say, in matters of importance, it falls well below

874
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: a no hitter in an actual baseball game where the

875
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: players actually involved in the action. And I'm not so

876
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: you're calling this just yet another vicarious hobby horse parlor game. Yes,

877
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying that our job is to predict things and

878
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter whether we get them right or wrong,

879
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: prediction whatever. Lean into this a little bit. Let's move on.

880
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: Cousins takes the snap, Jets blitz, it's picked up Cousins

881
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: firing car Albrick Robinson in the end zone and it's

882
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: caught touchdown. Robinson. They don't use him much, but when

883
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: they do, it generally results in the touchdown. Should use

884
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: it more than Paul Allen, Vikings Radio Network with the call.

885
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins through two touchdown passes, including that game icing

886
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: fourth down strike to Aldrick Robinson and the Minnesota Vikings

887
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: pull away from the New York Jets thirty seven seventeen.

888
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: They win. It's their third straight wind and the Vikings uh,

889
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden look like the Vikings that we

890
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: remember from last year. A really nice effort. The the offense,

891
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: um look good. Kirk Cousins were not easy conditions in

892
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands with the wind. A lot a lot of

893
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: these games on the East Coast seemed to have that issue.

894
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: But Cousins made throws when he needed to. And Lettavius

895
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: Murray once again, uh, really really nice job is you

896
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: know one cut straight ahead finding seems he kind of

897
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: wore down the Jets defense in this game. I think

898
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: he finished with two touchdowns. UM. So a nice win

899
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: and uh most of all the Vikings defense, which uh

900
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: we talked about this west in the lead up to

901
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: this game. This would be a good test for Sam

902
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: Donald and the Jets. The rookie coming off two really

903
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: good games and he wasn't up to the task against

904
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: the Vikings. UM. Not an excuse his his wide receiver

905
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: corps has really beat up. But uh, I think Donald

906
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: struggled in this game having to deal with a pass

907
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: rush in addition to uh secondary played by the Vikings

908
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: man coverage that really that really seemed to to vex Donald,

909
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: so he he he played poorly in this one, probably

910
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: his worst game as a pro, and the Vikings were

911
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: really clearly the superior team. So if you're the Vikings,

912
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: you're feeling good. And if you're Adam feeling you're making

913
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: history because he just became the fifth player in NFL

914
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: history to get at least a hundred yards receiving its

915
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: seven consecutive games. He went nine for one, ten and

916
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He also ended the game spitting up blood

917
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: courtesy of a hit from Jamal Adams. But it didn't

918
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: appear I'm like I was gonna say, it didn't appear serious.

919
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: He was spitting up blood at the end of the Yeah,

920
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: he'll decide ultimately, but I don't think he's facing any

921
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: lengthy absence. But big win for the Vikings, big win,

922
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: especially when you see what they have coming up on

923
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: the schedule their next six games Saints Lions at home,

924
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: then the bye at Chicago, hosting Green Bay, at New

925
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: England at Seattle. There's not a pushy. There's not a

926
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: cupcake in that group. No, there is not. And uh,

927
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: how bad was it for Donald at at a certain point.

928
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: I believe you through for minus one yard in the

929
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: second and third quarters, uh combined two or thirteen for

930
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: minus one yard. There were a couple of drops in there,

931
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: but he was really vexed in this game, some of

932
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: these picks. I mean, was this a game just getting

933
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: out of hand down the stretch basically? Not really? Actually

934
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: the Vikings outplay the Jets badly, but this was a

935
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: ten point game in the fourth quarter, and um Donald

936
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: threw a pick. And I believe he's up to nine

937
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: now maybe so he's he's throwing interceptions. He's been very

938
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: good with ball security, uh, with fumbles, which was an

939
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: issue that he had coming in the coming out of college.

940
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: But he is throwing the ball around. So he threw

941
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: a bad pick. And then the the play call that

942
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: you heard leading into this discussion, UH came really pretty

943
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: gutsy called by Zimmer. It's a ten point game, fourth

944
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: and long from about the forty yard line of the Jets,

945
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: and they instead of punting it, uh, kirk Cousin just

946
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: heaves it down the field and somehow gets it in

947
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: a tiny window past uh Mo Clayborn, Yeah, and into

948
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: the hands of Aldrich Robinson uh that put the game

949
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: away that they added a touchdown to ice it, but

950
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: a pretty decisive win for the Vikings at the middle

951
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: of Well, we like the Jets receiver k crew a

952
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, but suddenly Quincy Andon was out

953
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: with an injury, and then Terrell Prior was cut this

954
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: week after with an injury, which is odd. And I

955
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: know they're saying they might have him back on the

956
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: team when he's ready in a couple of weeks, but

957
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: if he was someone they really believed in, you don't

958
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: just randomly cut him in the middle of It's something

959
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: going on there. Terrell Prior is constantly tied into weird

960
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: moves and you want you have to wonder if it's

961
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: the Tarrell Prior experience to something right, And so you

962
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: have Jermaine Kurtis kind of been under the radar this year,

963
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: had no no yards. Today Robby Anderson gets ten targets

964
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: for forty four yards and suddenly like then, now Donald's

965
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: not playing with us nearly a stack to deck and

966
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tougher for him. One thing to keep

967
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: in mind, I believe this was a handsa spanner before

968
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: the season where you laid out how the season could

969
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: go for Jets fans and Sam Donald and of course,

970
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: best case scenario, you know, is he leads them to

971
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs everything goes well. Worst case scenario, he's exposed

972
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: as a bust. But you said, what you kind of

973
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: expect him. What you're totally okay with is an up

974
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: and down season, some rookie lumps. At least you get

975
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: the sense he's the quarterback of the future and the

976
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Jets found their guy, and that's to me what he

977
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: is right now. Yeah, this has been the easiest sundays

978
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: I've had, uh watching the Jets really ever, because there's

979
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: no pressure to make the playoffs. It's just to haven't

980
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: proven and him to show make strides. The last two

981
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: weeks he made big strides. This week he took a

982
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: step back, and I expect him to take steps forward

983
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: in the future because I do believe in him despite today.

984
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, so far, so okay. For the gym.

985
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: You also don't have to play that hideous dance as

986
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,600
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987
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,879
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988
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,280
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989
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: in the draft. You have the guy and it's gonna

990
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: be a week to week proposition with these rookie passers.

991
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: Same thing with the Browns. We got the quarterback. Now

992
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,120
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1017
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1018
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,160
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1020
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: With the call, Chandler Canna Zero kicked a fifty nine

1021
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,000
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1022
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,359
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1023
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: the Bucks win over the Browns. Canna Zero cast away

1024
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: the goat horns after he pushed a forty yard would

1025
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: be game winner right in the final seconds of regulation. Mark.

1026
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: It was the fourth overtime game in seven weeks for

1027
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh and this one did not work out.

1028
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: It did not And if they have one more overtime

1029
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: it is they believe the three packers they would tie

1030
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: for the most in one season and you can feel

1031
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: that they will right. This is this This Browns team

1032
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: seems to veer towards these bizarre endings week after week.

1033
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: This was a tale of two teams where Cleveland's first

1034
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: half offense they looked as bad as they have ever looked.

1035
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: At the point where Nick Shook, fellow Browns fan and

1036
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: I were d m in each other just saying this

1037
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: is ghastly. It feels like major changes are coming from

1038
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint because they look that disorganized. They on

1039
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: the day had fourteen penalties for a hundred plus yards

1040
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: and penalty yardage, and the Bucks were getting the job

1041
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: done through the air with Jamis Winston all day long

1042
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: with big passing plays until overtime when Cleveland snuck in

1043
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: with that missed field goal by Captain Zero, who also

1044
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: missed an extra point in this game. You get you

1045
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: thought Cleveland had a chance because Jamis Winston utterly went

1046
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: to sleep in overtime. It's one of those it was.

1047
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: It was a section of play that had me Is

1048
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: concerned about Winston and Dan I know you were you

1049
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: were watching. It was an absolute mess, but they wound

1050
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: they wound up. Cleveland just couldn't seal the deal themselves,

1051
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: and yet I come out encouraged by yet another game

1052
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: that kind of makes me feel that whenever Baker Mayfield

1053
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: is on the field, it is possible. There's a lot

1054
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: of young talent, but but there was too much disorganization

1055
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: from the Cleveland side. But same goes for the Bucks.

1056
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: This was like two coaching staffs that wanted to keep

1057
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: one up in each other with ill moves. It really

1058
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: was like Dirk Cutter it in overtime through the finals

1059
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: of our Hot Seats tournament. I think it might have

1060
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: been caught her through the red flag and overtime, which

1061
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,920
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1062
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: checked with John Price about this game before switching my

1063
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: lock from the Bucks to the Browns. Yeah, if you're

1064
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: not following social media, but you do listen to the podcast.

1065
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: Mark had Um curiously locked up the Bucks to beat

1066
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: his beloved beloved Browns and then had a change of

1067
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: heart over the weekend and and cleared it with us

1068
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: this morning to lock up the Browns. Uh, And it

1069
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: didn't work out. And it is a uniquely Sessler move

1070
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: to go from locking one team, which means you're more

1071
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: confident about that team than anybody else to actually locking

1072
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: up their opponent over the course of three days. I

1073
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: loved it, Mark, Well, I work out, but I love it.

1074
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: And you say, Lakisha does not care about this lock thing.

1075
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: I did a quick FaceTime with Simone and the kids

1076
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: and she was just like, why did you switch. She's like,

1077
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: you're overthinking this. Just stick with your original pick. And

1078
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: it's like, Simon, have a weekend of you just like

1079
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: laboring over the decision. No, no, no, I know that

1080
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: came on my own totally inspired self decision this morning.

1081
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like you were laboring much on Saturday.

1082
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: It seemed like you were having fun. It was not

1083
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: labor to Bay Area up there in Wine Country, you wine,

1084
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: there was someone during this weekend. I mean, you're a

1085
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: hit on social media. Everyone should should follow the Instagram

1086
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: stories of Mark or just just live vicariously through him.

1087
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: But and even even social media today, like you were

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00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: as down on the Browns in the first half of

1089
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: this game as as I've heard, you know what, certainly

1090
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: this year it was there then and then there they

1091
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: are forcing overtime and making a game of it. I

1092
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: had to say they were plus four of the Browns

1093
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: in the turnover battle, and the opposing quarterback in overtime

1094
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: was an absolute train wreck, taking horrible sacks, could not

1095
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: hit the broadside of a barn, a total mess, and

1096
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: somehow you you still lose. Uh. The Browns still have

1097
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: to figure out how to win some of these games,

1098
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: and and they're fun to watch, but they I don't

1099
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: know if that's coaching. I think it is. Jack Horse

1100
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: talk about that turnover differential from last year to this.

1101
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: The Browns are like plus they have like twenty turnovers

1102
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: right now, by far the most in the league. And

1103
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: they their record does not show that they their quarterback

1104
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: is getting killed because of awful offensive tackle play right now.

1105
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: And and Hugh Jackson is not a difference maker in

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00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: a good way when he he after the game said

1107
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: he's thinking about taking more onus on directing the offense,

1108
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: which is just another huge Ackson way of deflecting blame.

1109
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: And I've had I've had this thought in my head

1110
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: for a while. I want to run it by you,

1111
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: just like Dan has this sort of what's maybe not

1112
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: the ideal but the understandable way to go through this

1113
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: season that you can feel good about and to me,

1114
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: if you're a Browns fan, it's I want to see

1115
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield play as well as possible, and if they're

1116
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs, I want to see

1117
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson get fired. So that's kind of a weird

1118
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: thing to be rooting for. But I think ultimately long

1119
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: term that's gonna be best for the Browns and that

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: that stinks this year. But I don't think he's a

1121
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: good coach. I think, you know what I mean. I

1122
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: want them to go six and make a change. He

1123
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: essentially came out and said, I'm not gonna sit here

1124
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: and watch the struggles on offense when my background is

1125
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: in offense. So to me that we know he has

1126
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: said it's Todd Haley's offense, he has said that I'm

1127
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: gonna keep my fingers off of it. And now this

1128
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: week sets up as whose offense? Is it gonna be

1129
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: the one thing that they They traded Carlos Hyde, which

1130
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: I like the depth. I don't like they keep dumping

1131
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 1: these veterans and getting rid of them. Nick Chub looks

1132
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: like the real deal. He's a great runner. I don't

1133
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: see an offense that's any better because you Jackson is

1134
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: not calling the place more preferable to last year, in

1135
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: the year before. And there's one, just one more annoying uh.

1136
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: Mark losing streaks stat attached to the Browns. They are

1137
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: now three years and ten days without a road win.

1138
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: Almost got one today, but still search How about those

1139
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: Bucks though? Three and three America's team. Let's move on

1140
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: first down and going from the gate, they give to Curley.

1141
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: He through the left side and into the end zone.

1142
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Todd Curley does it again, ten straight games with a

1143
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: tochsdown that your boy West JB Long KSPN with a call.

1144
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley scored three more touchdowns. My god, he's gonna

1145
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: set the record. Uh and Jared got through two touchdown

1146
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: passes as the Rams whipped up on the overwhelmed forty

1147
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: final score thirty nine to ten. The Rams are seven

1148
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: and oh four takeaways, a block punt, four sacks for

1149
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, force fumble recovery. Mark this complete domination it is.

1150
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: And you look at this, and you look at every

1151
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: Rams game every week and say, thirty nine to ten,

1152
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: this offense, this offense, this offense today, at least in

1153
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: the first half, it was a showcase for the defense.

1154
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: They are so well coached, and the special teams that

1155
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: had a blocked punt at one point that triggered a

1156
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: safety to make a twelve nothing, which doesn't seem like

1157
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: a big play except it was another example that this

1158
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: Rams team has essentially no weakness if they stay healthy

1159
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: and I and I went into the week saying I

1160
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: thought it was my favorite coaching matchup because of Kyle Shanahan,

1161
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan learned basically that this is a week

1162
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: to week buzz saw. If you deal with the Rams,

1163
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: you you have got to find a way to essentially

1164
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: remove all their weapons on offense, and there's too much happening.

1165
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: And what happened on defense was they generated three first

1166
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: half turnovers. And unless you play get a perfect game

1167
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: against the Rams, you cannot. You're gonna shoot yourself in

1168
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: the foot. And this will happen week to week. We've

1169
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: compared teams to the eighty nine Niners in the past,

1170
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: where you die up these late Sunday affairs and you

1171
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: know it's over by halftime. That is this Rams team.

1172
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who stops them. Well, you we we

1173
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: know that Kyle Shanahan is one of the brightest offensive

1174
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: minds and he's going up against a coaching staff. We

1175
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: have said on this podcast, Wade Phillips might be the

1176
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: best defensive coordinator in NFL history, Bones Fossil is maybe

1177
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: the best special teams coach in the NFL. And Sean McVeigh. Okay,

1178
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: and Sean McVeigh, to my mind, is the brightest offensive

1179
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: mind in the NFL today. That's what you're going up

1180
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: against every week when you face the Rams, and that

1181
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: a loaded roster on both sides. This is is this

1182
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: a potentially historic team? Are we talking? Do we feel

1183
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: that good about the Rams because it seems like all

1184
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: the ingredients are there for that type of season. It

1185
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: depends what you mean by historic, if you mean fifteen

1186
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: and one and and wins the Super Bowl and gets

1187
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: close sets the record. Sure, yeah, they have that chance,

1188
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: absolutely because it as much as yeah, they have a

1189
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: loaded roster and Aaron Donald had four sacks today in

1190
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: a in a game that's gonna help his defense. A

1191
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidacy at the end of the year.

1192
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: It's players like Robert Woods becoming a next level guy

1193
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: who you saw another team. You know, you saw him

1194
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: on the Bills. It wasn't that player when he was

1195
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: on the Bills, a guy like Corey Littleton who blocked

1196
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: blocked a punt today three or four on the year

1197
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: and lead the team and tackles and at two secs.

1198
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: So this is this is like the entire organization coming together,

1199
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: because it's also the front office who recognized that Corey

1200
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: Littleton could take this job, and Wade Phillips coaching him out.

1201
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: Trade Ogle three away, Littleton steps in, and it's like

1202
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 1: guys you never heard of suddenly turning to start. Those

1203
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: are huge decisions in the off season, and you say,

1204
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: this guy is good enough to start, Let's trade the

1205
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: expensive guy and put the money somewhere else. I'm gonna

1206
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: look at the States just looking better. And Bettere's got

1207
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: fired a couple of years ago, with a good job

1208
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: by ownership to keep him. You're attached to one of

1209
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: the more nightmarish coaches around. That can happen. That's not

1210
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: the case anymore. All right, here we go, ready next

1211
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: week home against the Packers. Packers, by the way the

1212
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: Desert people are putting them, they are how do I

1213
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: put this? The Desert people are are more down on

1214
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: the Packers. With Aaron Rodgers in the lineup than they've

1215
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: ever been for any other game. Said really, well, said,

1216
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: I still want to know what that means specifically, but

1217
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: I'll have to find out. Take long for you to

1218
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: find out. He already knows home against the Packers at

1219
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: the Saints home Seattle home versus Casey bye week, So

1220
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go down the whole schedule, but that's

1221
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: what they need. The teams in the NFL and and

1222
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: the other two are are the Packers, and see how

1223
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: if they can get through that undefeated. They hit their

1224
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: bye week and eleven or oh, they got a real

1225
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: shot by at Detroit at Chicago against the Eagles. They'll

1226
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: be tested at Arizona home against that Arizona game that

1227
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: sticks out there. If you are Rams fan, just pray

1228
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback stays healthy. I just do not want

1229
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: to see Sean Manion running this offense, because I think

1230
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: that's the only weakness on the ring. Unless it was

1231
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: like today where you get the perfect Sean Manion game,

1232
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: played two entire series, didn't throw a path. Yeah, West,

1233
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: you and the Rams are the same, though, it's just hey, listen,

1234
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: one week at a time. I mean, they're actually going

1235
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: out there on a field and doing it. You know, West,

1236
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: this humility, I think what you've done is is arguably

1237
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: just as impression now and I think it's probably like

1238
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: if you can think of one way to show that

1239
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: you're better at your job than everyone else and that

1240
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: you know more, it's absolutely picking one game a week

1241
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: where you can that is a favorite that that's the

1242
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: way to do it. That is the ship. Like my

1243
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: record is a total reflection of the job I am

1244
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: doing providing analysis. I'm a three and four analysts right now,

1245
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: you are no think how hard it is. Honestly, I'm

1246
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: gonna Greg's being snarky, but I'm gonna turn it around. Mark,

1247
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: you're three and four. You're three and four on fourre

1248
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to do it. Got seven in a row? Well, Like,

1249
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's I'm just I'm just I'm with like,

1250
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: what's the actual accomplishment here? A coin coin could do

1251
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: better than us, especially since you could take favorites. I'm

1252
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: not saying it. I don't think it takes a whole

1253
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: lot of acumen to go seven and oh and in

1254
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: picking down I disagree. I've always is gonna I'm gonna

1255
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: call picking games is does not really show your acumen

1256
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: as far as picking one game. You are pretty proud

1257
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: of what you've done the West Quietly, secretly, I would

1258
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: say that that's why this is surprising, because West has

1259
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: been popping his chest out. No no no, no, no, I'm

1260
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: I'm way more offended by people who criticize my picks

1261
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: than I am proud of winning these boots. Like quit

1262
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: being any complicated and anyone who has a problem with

1263
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: it can pound sand come at me on Twitter. You

1264
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: be blocked in a heartbeat because you're adult and get

1265
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: dead ass wrong. It's a very complicated issue. Finally, Luck

1266
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: out of the shotgun was left on a far hatch,

1267
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: drops the throw, steps up. He's got time, throws at

1268
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: right side to all wide open Merlin Mack. He said,

1269
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: that's twenty He's at the fifteen touchdown touchdown Harlan Mack

1270
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards away, and the Colts fleet thirteam like

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01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: a Twilve for nothing. Matt Sailor, Jim Sorgey, Carolyn can

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01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: Cults Radio Network, Andrew Luck through four touchdown passes, Marlon

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01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: Mack and his first rushing touchdowns of the season. The

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01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: Colts blowout the Pills thirties thirty seven to five. That

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01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: ends a four game losing streak for the Colts. Greg

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01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: the Bills have two wins because this is bad. This

1277
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 1: is real bad. It is so bad that I want

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: to focus on the relevant team. And I don't think

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01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: the Colts are out of it. You know. That's the

1280
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: West said the other day. This is a crazy division

1281
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: where I think nine wins is getting you into the playoffs.

1282
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: And it was great to see them put together a

1283
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: complete game. Andrew Luck only had to throw a twenty

1284
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: three times. He's still got four touched on Mark lyn

1285
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: Mac it's not just that he's back, it's that he's

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01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: a better player than he was as a rookie. And

1287
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: this happens especially for late round picks from you know,

1288
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: a small school, learning a lot learned from Frank Gore, whatever,

1289
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: whatever it is, he is a different player. He looks

1290
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: like a very good player right now, and he adds

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01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: a lot to that offense. T Y Hilton was back,

1292
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: caught all four of his targets. They were all short passes,

1293
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: but got a couple of touchdowns and it was nice

1294
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: to just see this team come together. I think they

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01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: got a shot. People like to have their fun at

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01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: Jim or you don't believe, Oh no, I do. They're

1297
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: they're fun. You can have your fun at Jim Murci's expense.

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: But he said this about Marlon Mack before the year,

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: that if he stayed healthy, he could be a fifteen

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01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: hundred yard kind of back. I don't think there was

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01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: ever a chance he was staying healthy with that workload.

1302
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: But but he can play well he had. I mean,

1303
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: he's still getting a big workload, so we'll see. He

1304
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: had twenty one touches today. The reason I took something

1305
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: from this game significant is that the Colts had two

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01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards at halftime on this Bill's defense.

1307
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear about Derrick Anderson or

1308
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 1: whatever the Bill's offense thinks. We know that they lost

1309
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: saw MC, but the Colts went up and down the

1310
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: field from minute one on these Bills. That's impressed. This

1311
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: balance is was so needed. And but we've seen the

1312
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: Colts operate on offense and get hot, and you do

1313
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: believe that they can come back. Their record is rough.

1314
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. They can't pile up to any

1315
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: more losses. They need just to get on a streak here,

1316
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: but they're getting a lot of different guys. Look at

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01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard seventeen total tackles today. That seems like part

1318
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: for the I guess my my feeling, Greg is like, what,

1319
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: I didn't see this game? But what what? What do

1320
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: you learn from this game? You know that they were

1321
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: going to score points because the culture scoring points against everybody,

1322
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: and I would never have guessed they would put up

1323
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson was was gonna be miserable. You knew that.

1324
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: But they didn't steak out of here twelve to five.

1325
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: They just put up thirty st learned a lot going

1326
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: into the week. The Bills had set down some pretty

1327
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: pretty bad offense, but they've done a good job even

1328
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: when they played good opponents. They were the number three

1329
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: defense in the league according to Football Outsiders in the

1330
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: first half, especially the fact that they came out immediately

1331
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 1: and put it on them and then just cruised. But also,

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01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo, you lost of Shawn McCoy early and

1333
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: your your defense. How long can you ask this defense

1334
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: to overachieve When the offense cannot stay on the field

1335
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: and it continues to turn the ball over, Season's over.

1336
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry but the bill seasons over and Lashawn McCoy,

1337
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: whether he's on the field or not, has not made

1338
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: an impact for them nobody. I mean, it's just that's

1339
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: a tough situation over there in Buffalo. This is a

1340
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: credit to Frank Reich and Chris Ballard and Andrew Luck.

1341
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: When's the last times her favorite type of frog? When's

1342
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 1: the last time you heard anyone talk about the Colts

1343
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, they're another factor in a very good way.

1344
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: That's what I mean when we talk about all the

1345
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: lucky ways that these games, and so many teams could

1346
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 1: have different records. So it's like, I just don't see

1347
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: them as any different than a lot of the three

1348
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: and four the four and three teams. To me, they're

1349
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: just the same, and they have a little more upside

1350
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: to get better because they have Andrew Luck. The best

1351
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: thing going in that division right now is Andrew Luck.

1352
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: And they get the Raiders next week in Oakland. But

1353
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: go win a football game and then home to the

1354
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: Jags and you might be catching them at the right

1355
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: time home to the Dolphins. Pretty nice set up for

1356
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: them to get at or near five hundred and then

1357
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: all bets are off in that division. All right, Mahomes

1358
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: open for the touchdown, Demitrius Harris. That was I mean,

1359
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 1: that's easy easy. Oh yeah, the Patrick Mahomes train rolls

1360
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: on showtime, baby, no box off not catching on. Four

1361
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: more touchdowns for the Chiefs. M VP front runner Cream

1362
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: Hunt added a hundred and forty one total yards and

1363
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: three touchdowns of his own. It wasn't even close. Chiefs

1364
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: over Bengals Sunday Night Football, that's right, Thursday Night Football,

1365
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football book and the last four days of action,

1366
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: both games so little puncture wound. Greg and the narrative

1367
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: that all the primetime games have been great this season,

1368
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: but you know what, when the Chiefs are at home

1369
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: in prime time, this talent level and the Cincinnati team

1370
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 1: that's not ready for prime time, this is what happens.

1371
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: Yikes there. I mean they're fun to watch, even in blowouts.

1372
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: And then you know, mid third quarter at late third quarter. Yeah,

1373
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 1: but go go talk to go talk to your family, go, um,

1374
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: make meaningful connections. Write a letter to someone in prison,

1375
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, do something with your life. Brandon Dascy, that's

1376
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: who I'm going to write a letter to. Gam I

1377
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: believe in you, Brandon All right. Patrick Mahomes is so

1378
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: reliable though in terms of like we all this seems

1379
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: normal now, We're just used to this. This is our normal.

1380
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: But if you had said before the season that he's

1381
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: just gonna show up, throw four touchdowns, make five highlight

1382
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: real plays every week, like it would have blown our

1383
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: minds even coming into this week. You shouldn't take it

1384
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: for granted that they're gonna blow a decent Bengals team

1385
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: out of the water. This to me said a lot

1386
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: that they were able to respond and just wax a

1387
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: totally capable team like the Bankers like that. Yeah, And

1388
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 1: the question was how on earth do the Chiefs get

1389
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 1: from here to the Super Bowl with their defense? And

1390
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: tonight they played a good offense and allowed ten points

1391
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: four point four yards per play while putting up five

1392
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards of their own. And they have

1393
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: Denver Cleveland and the Arizona Cardinals up next, so we're

1394
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to tell much about them in

1395
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: the next month. I think if if you see their

1396
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: defense play play well week after week, and I think

1397
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 1: they have shown signs over the last three or four

1398
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: weeks of getting better on defense. They've at least had

1399
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: some good performances, including this one tonight. I mean, we've

1400
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: talked up the Bengals offense quite a bit. If if

1401
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: they if they're giving up two hundred and fifty to

1402
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: three hundred yards a game and in double digit points,

1403
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: that's not that's pretty good. Great, And let's check back

1404
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: in December when they play against real competition. Cincinnati falls

1405
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: to four and three on the season, so they were

1406
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: a whisper away from five and one. Seven days later

1407
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: there four and three, the chief six and one, their

1408
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: three and oh at home. Uh and this team has

1409
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: all the makings of a team that's gonna go seven

1410
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: one or eight no at home and if they can

1411
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 1: get that home field advantage. I know they got bounced

1412
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: out in a home game in that building last year,

1413
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: but this is different. There's a different team with a

1414
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: different quarterback and a different vibe, but different field around

1415
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: this team. So uh yeah, the Bengals. This is not

1416
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 1: a pusher. This was not with the other time game

1417
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: that started this week. That was a team with loss

1418
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 1: at Sea, the Cardinals, And that's what happens with Cincinnati's

1419
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: a game. They'll probably bounce back and play well next

1420
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: week that you know, this is the type of team

1421
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about, the Chiefs. They just kill teams that

1422
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: are not great. Anybody that's anybody that, let me rephrase that,

1423
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: any team that is not like an upper echelon team

1424
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: has a good chance to get steamrolled by this this

1425
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: Chiefs unit. But they have one of the best young

1426
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in football, one of the best young running backs

1427
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: in football, one of the best young wide receivers in football,

1428
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: one of the best tight ends in football. But I

1429
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: think this said something about the Bengals. Oh, they're not

1430
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: a good defense. They'd provide no resistance lately that I

1431
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: don't think they're dominant enough on offense to survive that way.

1432
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: They were lucky to be in that game against Pittsburgh

1433
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: a week ago. I think they're two worst games of

1434
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: the season are their last two and the one before that.

1435
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: They were trailing seventeen nothing against the Dolphins before a

1436
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: couple of defensive touchdowns. Right now, like I we were talking,

1437
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: I think I have to It's like, I don't know

1438
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: if the Bengals have peaked already, but I'm much less

1439
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: high on them right now than than I was. And

1440
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: I definitely just look at the Ravens and Steelers, and

1441
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: I think now those two are better teams. So the

1442
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: Bengals are are quietly morphing into every other Bengals game

1443
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: we've covered as a group. It kind of evens out.

1444
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't agree with you, guys. I'm

1445
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wiping this one away. They almost beat Pittsburgh.

1446
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: I still believe that Cincinnati could be a make noise

1447
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: in the a f C. But this is not a

1448
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: good game. I would just say that some of the

1449
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: some of the Bengals teams we've covered have gone eleven

1450
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: and five or twelve and four and found a way

1451
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. So it's just a bad team.

1452
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: But this team is fully capable of losing on the

1453
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 1: first Saturday of January. They are but giveing no I

1454
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: agree with that. Give me a little give me a

1455
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: little more than a hundred forty eight yards passing by

1456
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton against the Chief. That's all I got you

1457
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: on that. Vante's perfect, by the way, UH caps a

1458
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: not a great uh last few days. He gets fined

1459
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: over a hundred grand. Uh gets killed in the media,

1460
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 1: rightfully so, for being a dirty player, and that suffers

1461
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: a hip hip injury before he's something the hip injury,

1462
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: missed a slew of tackles, played poorly, then got hurt

1463
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: outside of the injury, I think that's everything. That Vante's

1464
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: perfect once in a week, that's true. So maybe a

1465
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: good week until Sunday night. All right, there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's it for UH tonight's podcast. Thank you to everybody

1467
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: UH for listening and supporting the show, and UH that

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Speaker 1: includes the great iconic Keith Hansis, who's celebrating a birthday

1469
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: UH today, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. Yes the Jets could

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: not get year old. Yeah, probably still rule out of

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01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: bed and hit seven softball. He's and a new knee,

1472
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: so he might be making a return to soft all

1473
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: of my My mom would probably step step in and

1474
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: say no, you can't, but I'm not gonna put anything

1475
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: past Keith with a new bionic knee. So happy birthday, Dad,

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01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 1: love you. Um that's it. This is Dan Hansons signing

1477
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 1: off four Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood,

1478
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: behind the Glass. Hey, check out the Twitter show Tuesday one.

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Speaker 1: Sif tell that m