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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Welcome everyone to the Action Network Podcast Whenday NBA

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Speaker 3: Buffet Edition. I'm your host, Matt Moore, senior NBA writer

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Speaker 3: for the Action Network. Joining me is Raheem Palmer and

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Speaker 3: Brandon Anderson Boys, Great Wednesday, great slate. I'm so excited

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Speaker 6: Very exciting. You know two of my favorite teams. You're

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Speaker 5: We are twenty percent of the way through the NBA season.

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Speaker 3: Some teams are actually closer to twenty five percent through

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Speaker 3: the NBA season. The Wizards are like five percent of

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Speaker 3: the NBA season. But still, for the most part, we

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Speaker 3: are a significant chunk of the way. And while everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's two really talking MVP it's two really talking MVP.

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Speaker 3: The problem with that conversation is that if you say

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Speaker 3: it's too early to talk MVP, then later when you

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Speaker 3: start talking about MVP, you will not have anything prior

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Speaker 3: to compare it to, and you will forget these early games.

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Speaker 5: That do matter.

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Speaker 3: The early season, these games matter as much as the

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Speaker 3: ones in March, and then much of the ones in

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Speaker 3: May will these games matter as well as well. And

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Speaker 3: now is a great time, I think, to get in

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Speaker 3: on futures that you are looking at for MVP, before

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Speaker 3: the prices start to kind of align. I did research

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Speaker 3: and basically, by the time that you get to mid

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Speaker 3: already decided whoever's going to lead there oftentimes already is

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Speaker 3: a guy that winds up winning it. I still think

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Speaker 3: this slate is wide open. There's a lot to talk

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Speaker 3: about here. I did a full article this week breaking

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Speaker 3: down the top ten MVP features, going through who can

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Speaker 5: I know both of you had disagreements with some on

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Speaker 3: Okay, Brandon, what's the best value on the board for MVP.

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna surprise you at this pick.

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Speaker 2: Because I had not dug into the numbers when I

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Speaker 7: The one of the six.

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Speaker 2: That has by far the best odds is the same

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Speaker 2: one that I tweeted saying this guy's not even the

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Speaker 2: best clipper right now, is not even on my list.

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Speaker 2: I got it wrong out to Kniddish Verma, who pointed

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Speaker 2: that out on Twitter. Kawhi Leonard, I think is the

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Speaker 2: you put them all at even odds. I think Lebron

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Speaker 2: Or Hey, Durant, what a great comeback, what a great season.

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Speaker 2: I think those are the two most likely candidates, but

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Speaker 2: To find out that Luka Doncic is the betting favorite

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Speaker 2: realized that's actually the odds right now. So all those

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Speaker 2: Kawhi's at fifty to one. He's got twenty six points,

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Speaker 2: five rebound, six assists. He's shooting fifty to forty ninety

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Speaker 2: little bit more in the protocol, But the missing games

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Speaker 2: the same way that there will be some media wanting

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Speaker 2: Kawhi getting that case he's in LA. It feels like

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Speaker 2: Kawhi should have an m VP at some point in

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Speaker 2: his career. Just feels like he should have one as

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Speaker 5: So I get the idea he's on my list. He

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Speaker 3: I mean, the numbers are really good, right, Like it's

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Speaker 3: he and Steph have comparable numbers from that perspective, fifty one,

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Speaker 3: No matter how well the Clippers do, everyone's gonna go like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: And while part of it.

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Speaker 4: But do you think that's going to be part of it?

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Speaker 3: Like I think if they if the Clippers get the

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Speaker 3: him for Defensive Player of the Year. Even though he's

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Speaker 3: not like being talked about in that sense. He's not

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Speaker 3: what's the hook for Kawhi? And it's like, well, he's

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Speaker 3: the best overall player, yeah, But if you ask people

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Speaker 3: Now look five thousand, that's crazy number. Like that's a

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Speaker 3: do think that there's value there. I think if you're

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Speaker 5: But I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't necessarily get on board with thinking that he's

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Speaker 5: If that makes sense raheem, I like to know what

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not on board with that one at all.

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Speaker 6: For me, I told you gots a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 6: I liked Lebron James. It's at plus five hundred, which

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Speaker 6: is you know, it's not the value. It was a

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Speaker 6: positive expected value wager.

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Speaker 8: Lebron James oldest starting player in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: There was a time in his career to where you

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Speaker 6: can make him shoot, and now he has command of

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Speaker 6: You know, people thought that Ad will kind of take

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: He's playing a career low minutes. I think he's playing

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Speaker 4: But right now.

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Speaker 6: The Lakers are they're probably going to finish with the

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Speaker 6: based on narrative. I have an I have an MVP

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Speaker 6: It's a formula based on you know, on the record,

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Speaker 6: your statistics, points, rebounds, assists, and I haven't run it

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Speaker 6: you know, the Lakers being a number one seed, every

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Speaker 6: one of the best records in the league, there's no

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Speaker 6: I think the I think even at plus five hundred,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of value here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so what do you think the case is good?

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Speaker 2: The case against Lebron is right now, even though he

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Speaker 2: just scored forty six the other night, Even with that,

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Speaker 2: he's still at his lowest scoring since his rookie year,

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Speaker 2: and he allowed the league and assists last year, but

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Speaker 2: he's right back to his career average there. So you know,

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Speaker 2: the thing with Lebron is never about numbers, but he

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Speaker 2: there is going to be that case. If they stay

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Speaker 2: at even odds, he would be in my pick. I

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Speaker 2: think it's the career a word. I don't think people

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Speaker 2: less assist. It's Lebron, you know. And I think the

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Speaker 2: other thing to the case for him. If we're all

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Speaker 2: Guess who else notices that Lebron James And if it

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Speaker 2: think he knows that that one extra MVP, maybe one

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Speaker 6: And actually I think it's funny because FanDuel actually has

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Speaker 5: Give me a percentage chance if we.

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Speaker 6: Voted today, I think it'd be over fifty percent. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, I don't agree with that, but we'll go

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Speaker 3: with that. Sixty percent gets you expected value of two

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Speaker 3: tell you right now that you're off on who will vote,

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Speaker 3: the big thing you gotta think about when you're doing

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Speaker 3: Like that's the one thing got like narrow down on.

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Speaker 3: There are multiple types of voters you have to identify,

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Speaker 5: It is not the voters will do X.

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Speaker 3: Zach Loow is going to vote a lot different than

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Speaker 5: Like they will not vote the same. Okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 5: The narrative voters, you're absolutely right on.

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Speaker 3: Anybody that's on TV, those people are voting for Lebron,

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Speaker 3: Like they're all voting for Lebron. Okay, everybody in LA

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Speaker 4: Couple of Ye.

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm a little scarred because the year that Russell

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Speaker 4: Now, if you asked me, I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: I thought Kawai should have won it that year, and

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Speaker 5: I think it's good to go with the narrative.

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Speaker 3: But you also got to understand the Westbrook thing wasn't narrative,

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Speaker 5: There was a hook.

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Speaker 3: It's that, Yeah, come on, the guy's averaging a triple double.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen that since I actually think that the

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Speaker 3: I think right now probably gets the most votes, I

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Speaker 3: think he wins barely. It's that okay, most this is

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Speaker 5: When he clinched for a triple double.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was at that game.

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Speaker 3: And talked to three voters that were at that game

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Speaker 5: But that was also like a once.

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Speaker 3: The thing is is, though, is like you have to

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Speaker 3: All of these things combined, Honestly, what you just mentioned

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna be topping Vorp. He's not gonna be

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Speaker 5: About Paul George?

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Speaker 4: What about Paul George?

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Speaker 5: What about and what about the loss in the playoffs

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: And if he does take time off, which he's doing

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Speaker 3: The narrative around Kawhi is that he misses games. Even

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Speaker 5: The other guy that I'm actually putting it, I am

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Speaker 3: Like I started my column off with a comparison to

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Speaker 5: I am probably one of the bigger critics of Embiidu.

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Speaker 3: While everybody blames the Sexers front office and installing the

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Speaker 5: At the time. This is a problem.

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Speaker 3: But look, the Sixers still have this incredible record, The

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Speaker 3: Sixers still have this great net differential, and they missed

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Speaker 5: Against the spread.

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Speaker 3: Look, they're not gonna be undefeated the rest of the

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Speaker 3: And so it comes down to it, and Lebron's numbers

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Speaker 5: They're coasting. Everybody knows the Lakers are coasting. Then let

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Speaker 3: But I am realizing how difficult it's gonna be for

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Speaker 3: we can't double. And so he's still gonna give assists

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Speaker 3: If if you're right on col I Brandon, I will

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Speaker 4: Like it's a.

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Speaker 5: Bold that's a bold selection, that's super Bowl that's both.

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Speaker 3: Because the number is really good on it too, right,

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Speaker 3: like a lot of the wonks we give like Rudy

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Speaker 3: This race still seems wide open. This still seems like

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Speaker 3: there's nobody that's like set themselves apart. I have a

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Speaker 3: side bet going with Justin fann on Obie Toppin versus

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Speaker 5: I might not lose, but I'm definitely not gonna win.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Tibbs, appreciate you not playing the rookie at all,

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Speaker 5: But I'm open to being wrong. Rahem, Who do you

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Speaker 4: Of the Year. I like Ala Burn. I mean, for me,

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Speaker 4: he seems like the best rookie.

438
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Speaker 6: I mean, every time I watch watch him, he's making

439
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 6: an impact on the game. You know, you got a

440
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 6: guy who's shooting forty seven percent from three, you know,

441
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 6: eleven points a game, four point nine assists, three rebounds.

442
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 6: It's just like, I think I watched the game against

443
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 6: the Bulls and he single handedly won it. He had

444
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Speaker 6: like sixteen points in the fourth quarter. To me, he's

445
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Speaker 6: the he's the rookie that's making the most impact and

446
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 6: he's not even starting. I mean, so once he once

447
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 6: he finally cracks that starting lineup, I think it'll be obvious.

448
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, Justin Fan actually had me put

449
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Speaker 6: in a bet for him on Haliburton and non fifty,

450
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm running with that.

451
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Speaker 4: It's three to one, Like.

452
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Speaker 6: Well, it's three fifty plus three fifty now, But I mean,

453
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 6: I still think there's some value there.

454
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Speaker 5: Brandon, who do you like?

455
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Speaker 2: So I disagree. I don't think that the Rookie of

456
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Speaker 2: the Year race is wide open. I think it's LaMelo

457
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Speaker 2: and I feel pretty good about it. The Rookie of

458
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: the Year is different than MVP. This is the one

459
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: I've spent a lot of time on in the past,

460
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: and it really is just a numbers game.

461
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Speaker 7: It's not narrative. It doesn't matter if you win, it

462
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 7: doesn't matter what your story is.

463
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: If you basically add points plus rebounds plus assess that's

464
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Speaker 2: the winner. All three of those counted if you put

465
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Speaker 2: them all in, and the winner is whoever leads that

466
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 2: number most of the time. LaMelo is at eleven, six

467
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 2: and six right now. He's also not starting yet and

468
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 2: going to so if you push his minutes to like

469
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Speaker 2: twenty eight by the end of the year versus twenty four,

470
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Speaker 2: and I was going to finish at something like thirteen

471
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Speaker 2: seven and seven. His shooting has not been good, his

472
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Speaker 2: impact has been good. Haliburton is the better player right now.

473
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: Halliburton is the more winning player. I've been a huge

474
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: Haliburton fan since all this time. During college, I thought

475
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Speaker 2: he should have been taken higher. I'm not arguing against

476
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Speaker 2: Halliburton the player that value all of that. That's just

477
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: not what we give rookie the year four. Haliburton does

478
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 2: not put up flashy numbers, and Ball is just going

479
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: to end up with better numbers. And I don't think

480
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: anyone else is really in the mix that much. He's

481
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Speaker 2: at minus one forty five on a fan duel right now.

482
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: I personally think this is LaMelo's race to win. I

483
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 2: would say, if you gave me LaMelo versus the field,

484
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Speaker 2: I definitely would hesitate if you gave me a mellow

485
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: at like sixty five seventy percent likely. But when I

486
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: think that's about where I'm at on him right now.

487
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 5: What do you give me on the field?

488
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Speaker 2: I would give you two to one on the field

489
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Speaker 2: that sixty six percent.

490
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Speaker 3: I might think about that because like, look eleven, six

491
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: and six and you're saying it's not close. Come on now, Like,

492
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: I get it, he's not starting. I get it he's

493
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 3: not starting Brandon, but we also do not know if

494
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: he's going to start, Like we do not know.

495
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Speaker 8: That Brandon Anderson is a hater.

496
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Speaker 3: Okay, they have Davante Graham, they do have Terry Rose Rose,

497
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: who's big numbers this year. I don't know that they're

498
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: gonna start him. Can't shoot, and you're like, the IMPACT's

499
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 3: been there. You wont know why the IMPACT's been there

500
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: because he's playing with the bench unit. Once he goes

501
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 3: to the starters, who all those numbers and plus minors

502
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: are gonna dip and those plus minus numbers will get

503
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 3: looked at. You had Cole Anthony hit a game winner

504
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: the other night. That kind of stuff matters, It really does,

505
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: Like I talked to a voter that was like, if

506
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 3: a guy starts actually contributing to winning, that's a big deal,

507
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: Like it's one of the reasons like he I like

508
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 3: my cold position on Cole is like Cole's gonna put

509
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: up relatively relative numbers to LaMelo for a team that's

510
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: going to be better, Like the Magic have been beset

511
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: by injuries and COVID problems and they're still hanging in,

512
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: like they're gonna They're gonna hang around the Eastern Conference

513
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: playoff race versus the Hornets, who are terrible, like terrible,

514
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 3: Gordon Hayward's gonna take it take like if there's a

515
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 3: last second shot, it's going to Gordon Hayward. I understand,

516
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 3: Like I do agree with you in that. I think

517
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: it's funny that you're saying that you like. Narrative doesn't

518
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, it's just stats. I think this the narrative

519
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: is is Lamello right now. I think the narrative is

520
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: that LaMelo is the winner because there was like, ah,

521
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: I like, I like the way LaMelo looks man because

522
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: everybody they did this with Lonzo too, like like you know,

523
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: I know the numbers aren't there I know, but like,

524
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: I just like the way he plays, and now the

525
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 3: Pelicans are like, please take him.

526
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 5: Please, someone traded for him, Please, anyone take take Alonzo.

527
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: Ball it.

528
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: Again if you if you wind up being right, I'm

529
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: gonna have so much props for you for being in

530
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 3: on this. And it's an easy position because he's the

531
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Speaker 3: heavy favorite. I just I don't know how you watch

532
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: every night and be like the other thing I think

533
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 3: is there are guys I think that are capable of

534
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 3: that have laid the groundwork for them to earn more

535
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: minutes that could be big in the second half of

536
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: the season. Isaaca Coro and Patrick Williams are two that

537
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: I still think a lot about. Like I haven't gone

538
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: in on I went on Patrick Williams in preseason. I

539
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: haven't had it on to it. That's what I keep

540
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 3: thinking about, because like the Bulls are the Bulls, I

541
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: swear to God, are a better team than the record,

542
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: Like they're a pretty good team, they're fine, they're five

543
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: hundred ish, and like if that's a team that winds

544
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: up surprising folks, Williams is a guy that actually does

545
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: a lot of the kind of stuff and like, you know,

546
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 3: I remember Malcolm Brogden break in the world with numbers.

547
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 3: It was just like efficiency and impact. And I do

548
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: think that there are that if there's no clear winner,

549
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: I think oftentimes a guy that's like, you know, he's

550
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: playing really well for a good team, that holds more

551
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 3: sway than I think he did, maybe say ten years ago.

552
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

553
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 5: I don't see it with LaMelo.

554
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: I still continue to not understand the fascination with him.

555
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: It's an interesting topic. However, if you want to bet

556
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: on LaMelo in a shorter term.

557
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 4: You can do so.

558
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: In the NBA buffet.

559
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 8: Boys, let's eat dig in shirt tain My dosh looks delicious.

560
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 8: It's the Wednesday NBA Buffet. Chew and swallow no savory.

561
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 4: All right?

562
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: It stave for than Wednesday night NBA Buffet.

563
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Speaker 3: We're gonna swit this up week. This week, you got

564
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars to distribute. However it is that you

565
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: choose across the NBA slates. We're gonna do this one

566
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: person at a time. Brandon man of a thousand props,

567
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: what's your slate look like?

568
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 7: All right? Yeah, so let's start with the props.

569
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 6: Today.

570
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: Are props are killing it? I'll shout out again, make

571
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: sure you get on the app. Make sure you're looking

572
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: at the props tool right now, our prop tool.

573
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 7: The props were picking on the.

574
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Column and on the app seventy nine wins, forty three losses,

575
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: and three pushes. That is a sixty four point five

576
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: percent hit rate, twenty six percent return on investment. So

577
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: get those props. Make sure you're following. So I decided

578
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: I've been the last couple of weeks. I've been trying

579
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: to match you guys, trying to grab sides, trying to

580
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: grab totals, and I'm a props guy, so I'm gonna

581
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: stick with what's working for me today. So I'm going

582
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 2: half my budget on props today. First prop twenty bucks

583
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: on Brook Lopez over ten point five points. So Lopez

584
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 2: is playing Toronto. I was at game one. I know

585
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: you two both love that Bucks Raptors series from a

586
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. We love to bring that one up,

587
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: Fred van Vivliet forever. So I was at that game.

588
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: Game one, Lopez dropped twenty nine points on the Raptors.

589
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: He's just good against them. Since joining the Bucks, Lopez

590
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 2: has gone over ten point five points in nine of

591
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: his thirteen games in each of the last five and

592
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: this season with the Bucks, Lopez started out slow. He

593
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: was under twenty two minutes the first six games. Then

594
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: he played a lot and win against Detroit. Ever since then,

595
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: he's playing thirty one minutes a game. He's hit the

596
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: over one points here in six of the last nine games.

597
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: During that so we've gotten projected at thirteen and a half.

598
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: You're taking over ten point five twenty dollars on that.

599
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: Next up is twenty dollars on Evan Fournier. Over seventeen

600
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 2: point five points been Ryan Fournier the last few games.

601
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: Orlando badly needs anyone that can shoot the ball and

602
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: score some points. Fournier has come back. He's played four

603
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: games since his injury. He's over He's at nineteen points

604
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: or more in all four games. It's not anomaly because

605
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: his field goal attempts our way up. He's at sixteen

606
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: point three shots a game these four games, averaging twenty

607
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: two and a half points. That is up from ten

608
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: and a half shots the four games before he got injured.

609
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: So that prop has been moving out.

610
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 7: But started out fourteen and a half.

611
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: We took it, we hit it. Then it went to

612
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: fifteen and a half, then sixty and a half. The

613
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: value is about to be gone. I don't think I'll

614
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: like it much after seventeen and a half, but we'll

615
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: play it there today. So that's twenty dollars there. Last

616
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: prop for today is ten dollars on Rashaan Holmes. That's

617
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: Sacramento ten dollars Rashawn Holmes over eleven point five points. Again,

618
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: we're looking for that volume here. This season, in games

619
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: that Holmes has played at least thirty minutes, he's averaging

620
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: sixteen point one points a game. He's had double dig

621
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: points in nine of those ten games, and lately his

622
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: minutes are way up. He's averaging thirty six minutes a

623
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: game in the last six games we're playing Orlando. I'm

624
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: only going ten dollars on this one because I don't

625
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: like that the pace is going to slow down. I

626
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: don't love the Vucevic matchup. Whiteside is back potentially, which

627
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: will steal a few minutes. So only ten dollars on

628
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: that one. But that's Rashawn Holmes over eleven and a

629
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: half points. So that's the props for today. Fifty dollars

630
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: on those then I'm going to go twenty dollars on

631
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: the over in the Detroit Cleveland game. Try I was

632
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: thinking with Ellen last night and then I jumped in

633
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: this morning and saw the fans on that one. So great,

634
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: happy to grab that one right now. I think that

635
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: this line's at two hundred thirteen point five. I think

636
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: that we are thinking of an old version of both

637
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: of these teams. The Calves have been really good at defense,

638
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: but their defense are rating has dropped to number eleven

639
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: and falling, and they are a different team with Sexton

640
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: and Garland back in the lineup. They play a lot

641
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: faster and guess what, they're a lot worse on defense

642
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: when those two are in the lineup. And as far

643
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: as the Pistons, they are a faster team when Blake

644
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: Griffin is out as he is tonight. So, as fan

645
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: pointed out, the Pistons over is three and one when

646
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: is out right now. Cleveland over has hit in a

647
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: five straight and Pistons over has gone over in five

648
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: of six games. So I'm taking the over on that

649
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: game at two hundred and thirteen point five. Two bets

650
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: left twenty dollars on the Pacers. I grabbed this one

651
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: last night at plus one point five. I think it's

652
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: now minus one point five. The Pacers are playing the Hornets.

653
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: If it keeps going up, I may have flipped to

654
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: a money line if you need to basically get the

655
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: juice off there. So bonus is questionable with that injury.

656
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: But I just trust Indiana to be the professional team

657
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: here and take care of not a good team in

658
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: the Hornets. I'm starting to think of teams as kind

659
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: of three tiers. Are you a protected playoff team, one

660
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: of those top six seeds, Are you a play in team?

661
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: Are you not a playoff team at all? And against

662
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: those top six seed teams the Hornets have lost for

663
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: their last five, the Pacers are clearly one of those

664
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: top six teams. Even a little bit short handed, there

665
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: is still going to be one of those good teams.

666
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: As for the other end, Indiana is seven to two

667
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: this season straight up when they are playing not one

668
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: of those top six teams, when they're playing a play

669
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: in or a bad team. So I don't think it's

670
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: a slam dunk with Sabona's hurt, but they've got brogged in,

671
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: They've got Turner. It's just a professional team that I

672
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: have been. I've been playing a lot Indiana this season,

673
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: their top twelve offense and defense, and basically playing them

674
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: to win that game. Last one my last ten dollars,

675
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: I'm taking a parlay. I'm parlaying three money lines because

676
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: six picks wasn't enough, so I guess we're going with

677
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: eight here, So I'm gonna parlay three favorites, and I'm

678
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: taking three favorites against teams that aren't very good and

679
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: are definitely not good when they're missing a star. So

680
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: Warriors over Timberwolves, no Towns, and possibly no Dilo again,

681
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: the Warriors just won yesterday or two days ago, even

682
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: with a huge Beasley game. Suns over Thunder. It looks

683
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: like the Under maybe missing Horford and Hill again. A

684
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: little tip on that, by the way, when the props

685
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: are up already and these guys are not listed, that's

686
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: a good hint that the books do not expect these

687
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: guys to play, even if they're listed as questionable. So

688
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: no Horford and no Hill and the props makes me

689
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: confident they're not playing. And then the last one is

690
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: the Nuggets over the Heat. Butler is still out. I

691
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: wrote the game got on that one, and with Michael

692
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: Porter back now for the Nuggets. I'm just trusting those

693
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: three teams. So Warriors, Sons, Nuggets parlay at plus one

694
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: seventy nine at DraftKings. So that's the ticket for today.

695
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean your props have been killing it. I've

696
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: been tailing you. I am sad that you're off of

697
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 5: the assists for the centers.

698
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: That's been such a that's been the Brandon Anderson special Fournier,

699
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: I love that spot.

700
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: That's a really great spot.

701
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: I think for him specifically, I will say I'm not

702
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: with you on the Detroit Cleveland over and the reason

703
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 3: is you're like they've you know, they've plummeted in defensive rating.

704
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: They played the Nets twice, the Celtics dropped one.

705
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: Hundred and forty.

706
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: They played the Lakers and Lebron scored forty six. Like

707
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: the Calves have had a bad week defensively, and a

708
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: lot of it. I think it's just like the Calves

709
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: are gonna be good defensively versus most teams, and then

710
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: versus the Juggernauts, they're gonna be helpless because they just

711
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: don't have the talent to put pressure them, especially on

712
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: the offensive end, to be able to like get them

713
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: back on their heels a little bit. So like this

714
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: is that to me is is you have to contextualize

715
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: it thin a little bit of that. I'm not saying

716
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: I like the under in that spot because that's a

717
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: low number. But if I'm looking at the Pistons and

718
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: the calves, I am thinking this is gonna be a

719
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: little bit of a rock fight. I don't want to

720
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: mess with it because I feel like there's a I mean,

721
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 3: the problem with the Pistons is I there's no way

722
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: to be able to predict what they're gonna do offensively.

723
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: Some nights they look okay and they're gonna put up

724
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: one oh six, one oh eight, and sometimes you're gonna

725
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: get like ninety two.

726
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 5: That is a bowl win to go with. Raheem, what's

727
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: your slight look like tonight?

728
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: For me?

729
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: I like I'm starting out with the Sacramento Kings at

730
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 6: the Orlando Magic. I like the over twenty two. My

731
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 6: projections make this number two twenty five look dumpster fire

732
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 6: doesn't even do justice to how bad this King's defense is.

733
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 6: They're giving up one hundred and eighteen points per one

734
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 6: hundred possessions. As I said last week, this will be

735
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 6: the best offense in NBA history what they're giving up

736
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 6: every night. So I'm going with that over. I mean,

737
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 6: if you can bind a bad defense with a team

738
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 6: who plays top ten in pace, you're gonna get a

739
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: lot of points.

740
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: The Kings are ten and six to the over. I'm

741
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: gonna keep playing that over.

742
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 6: You know, like when you look this team, they have

743
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 6: the highest effective field goal percentage in every area the floor,

744
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: from the rim to three point Take the over. For

745
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 6: my next pick, I'm going with the Boston Celtics. Obviously,

746
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 6: the numbers can't really capture the strength of this team

747
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 6: because you know they had absences to Jason Tatum and others,

748
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 6: you know, just from COVID. But now they have a

749
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 6: full strimp team. They got Kimba Walker, Jalen Browns having

750
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 6: a monster season. Now you've got Tatum all this is

751
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 6: the first game in which all three of them play

752
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 6: the gather or. I think this number is a little short.

753
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 6: There's some steam in the market right now. It's open

754
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 6: at threes, now at around four. But I think you

755
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 6: can play this up to five. And I think you

756
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: have a positive expective value proposition. I mean, you know,

757
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 6: even you know, with Tatum out for a week or two,

758
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 6: this team is still scoring.

759
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: You know, there's still a top.

760
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 6: Ten in offense and top ten in defense. You know,

761
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 6: with Tatum on the floor to scoring one hundred and

762
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 6: fifteen points per one hundred possessions, this is a top

763
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: tier team in this league. And I think, you know

764
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 6: the Spurs, they struggle to defend on the perimeter. I'm

765
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 6: gonna take the Celtics. I think you know, the Big Three,

766
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 6: they have a great night. My last one, this one

767
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 6: was also being steamed down. I took this at two

768
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 6: twenty five. I took I took the.

769
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: The Jazz Mavericks under.

770
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 6: A lot of people might think this is, you know, tough,

771
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 6: because the Jazz are just playing so well offensively, they're

772
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 6: making seventeen may threes a game. But the Mavericks they

773
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: get back to winning defenders and Dorian Finney Smith and

774
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 6: Richardson they both play in the like the slowest pace

775
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 6: in the league. You know, the Jazz are twenty fifth

776
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 6: and pace. The Mavericks are twenty first in pace. I

777
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 6: think the Mavericks are a little better defensively this year,

778
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: but they're far a crowd from where they were last

779
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: year offensively, where they were best offensive NBA history. I

780
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 6: think the loss of Maxi Kleever really hurts because you

781
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 6: don't really have that picking pop partner to really hit

782
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 6: the three. And you know, Chris Stratferzeingez is back, but

783
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 6: he's only shooting twenty nine percent from three this season,

784
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 6: and I know he'll regress at some point, but I

785
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 6: think he's still finding his foot in I think if

786
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 6: you can get this above twenty two to twenty three

787
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 6: that area.

788
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: I like the under thirty three to win thirty on

789
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 4: all my picks.

790
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: The Jazz Mavericks one was really interesting to me because

791
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: that game last night, you know, the Knicks surprising everybody again.

792
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: The biggest thing was that the Jazz have been this

793
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: awesome three point shooting team, and the Jazz eventually outpaced

794
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: them because you know, it's the next nail, no firepower,

795
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: but the Jazz shot really terrible.

796
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: I looked at some historical data and there's really no

797
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 5: trend that.

798
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: Suggests that you have if you have a good shooting

799
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: team that has a bad shooting night, that they immediately

800
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: bounce back. The data is just really mixed on that

801
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: in terms of of the over performance so that one

802
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: I think is really interesting. I don't mind the pick though,

803
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: just because the Mavericks offense has just been.

804
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: Bad.

805
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: It's just been really bad, which is why, to Brandon's

806
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: earlier points, really surprising Lucas still such a favorite for

807
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: MVP in terms of I get it because like, eventually

808
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 3: the Mavericks offense should do better, but they really missed

809
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: a rim runner and Willie colly Stein is not it.

810
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: It's just that that is not the one. I like

811
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 3: the plays quite a bit. I like that Kings, you

812
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: know that King's Magic one. The only one I will

813
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: say on that is I looked up on cleaning the

814
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: glass against the bottom ten defense, the Mavericks or the

815
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: Magic rather are still only averaging one to ten, which

816
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: is twenty fourth in the league amongst teams facing bottom

817
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: ten defenses. The pace will probably still gets you to

818
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: the over. That one does make me a little nervous,

819
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: just because the thing with the Magic is like they

820
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: can have these games where they put up like one thirty.

821
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: They have them every now and again, but then like

822
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: you're worried about them, like having a one oho six night.

823
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: But I will say this, if the if, the if,

824
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: the Magic have like a game where they score under

825
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: one ten, you're still hitting your over because that means

826
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: the Kings are probably putting up one twenty five eight

827
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: like it's a runaway team.

828
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 6: I think the one the one thing we have to

829
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 6: stress is you've got to make sure you get the

830
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 6: best of the number. And a lot of these are

831
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 6: just you know, there's the specifically number plays. Like so

832
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 6: if I say my model likes that two twenty five,

833
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: you can't really play it at two twenty four, you know,

834
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 6: like you have to play it so you have a

835
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 6: little edge. And I think this is the same thing

836
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 6: with the Mavericks game. Unfortunately that number has been steamed down,

837
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 6: like it opened at two twenty five and a half,

838
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 6: and you're not grab some two twenty five under. But

839
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 6: if you can get above two twenty two on the

840
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 6: Mavericks under, I think you have a you have a

841
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 6: solid edge.

842
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 5: Good news for Magic Kings that one's going the other direction.

843
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: It's down to two twenty three and a half, still

844
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: only there, so like it's actually and it's up from

845
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: two twenty one, so it's trending, it's trending up, but

846
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: it's still only at two.

847
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: Twenty three and a half. You've got some room.

848
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: As we talk right now, now, fifty seven percent of

849
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: the of the of the bets are on the over,

850
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: but sixty two percent of the money's coming down the under,

851
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: so that one doesn't look like it's it's necessarily going

852
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: to rise a lot in the afternoon.

853
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,680
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854
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759
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Speaker 3: Uh my slate, I'm going with the tire slate this week.

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Speaker 3: This one's a really is tricky. I looked at a

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Speaker 3: bunch of my my quarters and haves, and basically what

867
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Speaker 3: you have this week is you have bad first half

868
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: teams going against bad first half teams and good first

869
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: half teams going against good first half teams and the

870
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: same for first and second quarters. Uh so it's it's

871
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: a tight spot. I do have one because I found

872
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: one tight spot to get in there. I'm going thirty

873
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: bucks on Celtics minus one and a half first quarter.

874
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 5: Look, this is the Spurs. I have been doing this consistently.

875
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 3: It's my tie, my tried and true LaMarcus Aldris plays

876
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: and the Spurs get out scored in the first quarter.

877
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: They get out scored until the bench comes in. The

878
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 5: Celtics bench.

879
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: Has been very good, especially lately. I like the matchup

880
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: there the Celtics, even without Jason Tatum. Look, I still

881
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: think that they're a better team than the Spurs.

882
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: Now.

883
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: The Spurs are good, right, but the first quarter in particular,

884
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: the Spurs never get off to a good start. They

885
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 3: have to mix and match their lineups to find the

886
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: good things. Their starters are never good with Derosan and

887
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: Aldridge not never, but generally speaking.

888
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go ahead put thirty on the Celtics.

889
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: I only need a point a half and it's only

890
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 3: juice at one oh six, so I feel okay about

891
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: that one. I'm taking Nuggets heat over two nineteen and

892
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: a half for thirty bucks. The Heat defense continues to

893
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: basically be talked about and as if it was last

894
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: year's team, and it's not, And there's this construct of like, well,

895
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: that's because of COVID. They weren't good before that stuff.

896
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: They weren't good before all that. If Jummy Butler I

897
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: presume is still out, which I think he is still

898
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: out until Friday, I believe was the official word on Butler,

899
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: then there's you're.

900
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 5: Missing a key defender in the sequence.

901
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: Nicole Jokic, like bam Adebayo, is a great matchup, but

902
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: Jokic is gonna do what Yokic does. If bam plays

903
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: it tough on him, Yokic is gonna move Hm out

904
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: into space and then he's going to pass around him.

905
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: They have small guards that get hung up on screens.

906
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: I like the transition opportunities for him. The Nuggets play

907
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: the slow pace, which is kind of a problem with

908
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: taking their overs, but at to nineteen and a half,

909
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about this one. If the Nuggets lose,

910
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: it's because their defense went to pieces and the Heat

911
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: dropped one hundred and twenty five to one hundred and

912
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: thirty on them. If the Nuggets win, it's because they

913
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: got up to one twenty five, et cetera. Because their

914
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: offense is so efficient. I don't see a scenario in

915
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: which they win this game in a grind out fashion.

916
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: It's the third consecutive road game for the Nuggets. And

917
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 3: while you might be like, doesn't that drag down the

918
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: efficiency the Nuggets when they get tired, they get sloppy

919
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: on defense. That's the identity that they've been under. So

920
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: I like the over quite a bit of two nineteen

921
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: and a half. I like the number. I don't like

922
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 3: it any any higher, though. Don't begetting at two twenty

923
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: one anything higher than that. I'm taking the ten bucks

924
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: on Warriors minus nine. I don't like laying nine points.

925
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: I don't like laying nine points on the second consecutive

926
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: game against an opponent. Brandon touched on this Towns is out.

927
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: If Towns is out, I have.

928
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: To fade the Warriors.

929
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: And I've been burned a couple of times when Nasre

930
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: just showed up. But this this Wolf seems just such

931
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: a mess. There's such a mess, and Golden State very

932
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: much this season feels like a team that's going to

933
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: struggle and lose versus good teams and take care of

934
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: business versus the bad and go about five hundred versus

935
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: the teams in the middle. That's their kind of win

936
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: profile this season is they have a good win versus

937
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: the Lakers, But in general they have those kind of struggles.

938
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 3: Kurr really ripped them after that losing streak. They seem

939
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: to have responded. I will go ahead and play the

940
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 3: numbers here and just fade the Wolves without towns. Finally,

941
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm taking thirty bucks on Sixers plus one thirty eight yep,

942
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: yep to beat the Lakers at home. Take a shot,

943
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: take them a shot on the money line. Look, the

944
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 3: frontline for the Lakers is not what it was last year.

945
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: You don't have Dwight Howard who's with the Sixers. You

946
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 3: don't have JaVale McGee who's with Cleveland for now.

947
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 5: You don't have the kind of depth that they had

948
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: last year.

949
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: Yes, Marcasol is a really good defender, and yes Marcasol

950
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: has been a good defender versus Embiid, but Gasol has

951
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: slipped consistently.

952
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 5: I don't like Davis in that matchup.

953
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: That's a big body they're gonna try and he's not

954
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: gonna want to bang down there with Embiid.

955
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: That's not what he's gonna want to do.

956
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: I like Ben Simmons in the matchup with Lebron as

957
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 3: much as you can like any matchup with Lebron. I

958
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: like the shooting advantage with with Seth Curry versus KCP,

959
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: et cetera. I like the the bench matchups because the

960
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: Lakers bench is still really spotty. The Lakers also this

961
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: season have some impressive wins, but they also have a

962
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: lot of like the Sixers team I think is really

963
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: good and they're at home, So I'm taking six Ers

964
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: plus plus one thirty eight on the money line to

965
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: win this game.

966
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 5: You guys got reactions.

967
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: So do you guys think that whoever wins tonight, whether

968
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: it's Embiid or Lebron, becomes the narrative MVP favorite.

969
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 7: Is tonight a night?

970
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 4: No, it's not. It's still early yep. Yeah.

971
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: The big thing is that those games that you're talking about,

972
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: the narrative games, don't exist until March because like Yann

973
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: has beat Lebron and Kawhi early in the season and

974
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: nobody cared like that last year, like Jan has had

975
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 3: to win it just by virtue of the Bucks being

976
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: awesome and his staff's being great.

977
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 5: The narrative didn't never help you.

978
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: But if it's if it's Embiid that gets the win

979
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: against the Champions, against Lebron against Davis, I just feel

980
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: like that could get the ball rolling a little bit

981
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: where I think right now Jokic is the favorite, Lebron's

982
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: in there.

983
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 7: I think it could start the talk on and beat

984
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 7: a little bit more.

985
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I do think that the Sixers win tonight,

986
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: that Embiid's numbers shortened considerably.

987
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 5: I think because tomorrow on the jump, it's going to

988
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 5: be like we need to talk about how good the Sixers.

989
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: Are, you know, and like that's gonna be like that

990
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: will start becoming the conversation is no one's talking about

991
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: how good the Sixers are. Let's talk about how good

992
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: the Sixers are. By the way, did you know Joel

993
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: and beads on Instagram? Like that will that will be

994
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 3: the discussion for them going forward. I wanted very badly

995
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: to take the Bucks by the way minus too versus

996
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: the Raptors, but Fred VanVleet is the worst.

997
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 6: And so again I did a projections piece, and I

998
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 6: think my number made the game like seven and a half,

999
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 6: and it was like teetering on the line, and not

1000
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 6: just for me when I watched the Bucks and they

1001
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 6: give up so many open threes, and the Raptors are

1002
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 6: just the large percent of their offense is coming from

1003
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: three point range. So if they get high from three,

1004
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 6: they're gonna be in that game. And I think that's

1005
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 6: the thing, the thing that kept me off of it.

1006
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, that's the Wednesday NBA Bufet. Hope you enjoyed

1007
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: the picks we were. I think probably by next week

1008
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: we're gonna have those actually up in the app under

1009
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: the Wednesday NBA Buffet.

1010
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: Boys, I have to ask you a question. Am I

1011
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 5: taking crazy pills?

1012
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 8: And now? Am I taking crazy pills with Matt Moore?

1013
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: Doesn't anyone notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

1014
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: Why does the NBA talking about having an All Star game?

1015
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 5: What are we doing? What are we doing?

1016
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: I have no idea what we're doing.

1017
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 5: I have to hope that this very seriously.

1018
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: Segu Smith passed away yesterday from there are people in

1019
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: this industry that you meet and the most of the

1020
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: loudest guys are up and down. They people have good

1021
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: experiences with them and bad experiences with them. They tend

1022
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: to be very driven and focused. But there are guys

1023
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: in this industry of NBA media that everyone universally loves,

1024
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: and Seku Smith was one of them.

1025
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 5: And we lost him estually to COVID. That's horrible. He

1026
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 5: had a wife and kids, friends and colleagues.

1027
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: He was huge for the NABJ. Yesterday was hard for

1028
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: everybody in the industry. Losing Seku Karl Anthony Towns has

1029
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: suffered so much loss doe to this and I don't

1030
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: go along with the folks that are like this is

1031
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: why they shouldn't be having a season. I think they

1032
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: should have waited until March, because there's a lot of

1033
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: talk right now.

1034
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 5: Reuters is reporting that the Olympics aren't going to get played.

1035
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: So if the Olympics aren't going to.

1036
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: Get played, why did you try and cram in a

1037
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: season before the Olympics. They could have waited until March

1038
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 3: and everything would have looked a lot different. You cannot

1039
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: be seriously talking about having this exhibition game. You're just

1040
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: the whole thing right now we're seeing is travel. It's

1041
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: that a team contracts it and doesn't test positive, but

1042
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 3: somebody tests positive later and then that person and all

1043
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: the teams that that person has played has to get quarantine.

1044
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 3: We're seeing this all over the place. It's travel. It's

1045
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: that we're mixing the schedules too mixed. I assumed when

1046
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: they talked about the season, they were gonna do what

1047
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: they had talked about, which is they were gonna pod

1048
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: these teams and we were gonna see, for like the

1049
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: first two months of the season, the Lakers playing like

1050
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: the Blazers and the Clippers and the Suns and the Kings,

1051
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: like the California teams consistently over and over again to

1052
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 3: limit the travel. But they didn't go with that route.

1053
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: Everybody's playing everybody, everybody. It's like they're trying to have

1054
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 3: a normal season.

1055
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 5: You cannot do this.

1056
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: You're risking not only the players, but you gotta go

1057
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: along with everybody, with all the staff, with all the

1058
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 3: supporting structure. There's no reason to do this. The game

1059
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: sucks anyway, guys. It was better last year, and I

1060
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: know why it is.

1061
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 5: It's the money.

1062
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: I am understanding of the financial realities that this situation

1063
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: is put upon lots of people. I am not ignoring

1064
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: that everyone's like, I don't care about the money. Just

1065
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: keep people saying you have to care about the money,

1066
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: Like you have to care about the money because that

1067
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 3: impacts people's ability to pay for groceries. Like that's just

1068
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 3: how it is in this country. We can debate those

1069
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: issues later. But folks gotta gotta pay rent, folks gotta

1070
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: pay bills. I understand that the money has to be made.

1071
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 3: We don't have to make the extra money. Just do

1072
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 3: without the All Star Game? Am I nuts here?

1073
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: You're not crazy that It just doesn't make any sense.

1074
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: It feels like we are.

1075
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 7: I mean, we're.

1076
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 2: Trying to send you know, twenty four dudes from all

1077
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: over the country, all of whom have their own contact tracing,

1078
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: all of whom are coming from their own game, and

1079
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: like the three games prior, and we're trying to send

1080
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: them all together. It's just we're creating like an NBA

1081
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: Super Spreader event and putting them all in one spot

1082
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: and then sending them back out to their teams. If

1083
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: one person on that court ends up getting traced to COVID,

1084
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: we're like shutting down everything now for a couple of

1085
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: weeks because we just took the entire league down, except like,

1086
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, the terrible teams they can keep playing because

1087
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be out the ll Star Game.

1088
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 7: But I don't know, it doesn't make any sense to me.

1089
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 7: I know what we're doing.

1090
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we already saw last week. You can't

1091
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 6: even play the Wizards without missing games. Like literally every

1092
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 6: single team that plays the Wizards is gonna miss their

1093
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 6: next game. So you know, to bring twenty four guys

1094
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: the coaching stats, you know, it just doesn't make sense.

1095
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 4: And then you know, I for the players.

1096
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: I feel for them because you know, I feel like

1097
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 6: a lot of them are just visible.

1098
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: They can't really hang out with their friends.

1099
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 6: They can't do you know, certain things, but you want

1100
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 6: them to go play an All Star game.

1101
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: And it's just like, I'm.

1102
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: Sorry, do you think that they're doing this if they

1103
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: can't hang out with their friends? Is that what do

1104
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: you think that the players are? Is that what you

1105
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: think what will happen?

1106
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 5: Is that?

1107
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 6: Oh that's not that's not that's not what's gonna happen.

1108
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying, like, you know, they already have

1109
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 6: these protocols. Dame spoke about it, you know how he

1110
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 6: just you know, he comes home and he just doesn't

1111
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,479
Speaker 6: do anything. He doesn't kick it with his family, and

1112
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 6: you know, for them to have an extra event outside.

1113
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 4: Of this, it's just it's just greedy.

1114
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it doesn't make any sense. And the

1115
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: NBA just continues to like, just you need to get

1116
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: through this stretch. You need to like, how about you

1117
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: not worry about the All Star Game and you figure

1118
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: out how we don't have Spurs Pelicans postpone on Monday

1119
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: because both teams didn't have enough players. Like, let's let's

1120
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: be we can, we can try, and we can. You

1121
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: guys can make the money, which I'm appreciative of. It's

1122
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: helps us with create content. My job's relying on too.

1123
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: We can do this, but we can do this in

1124
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 3: smarter ways and not be constantly chasing the extra dime.

1125
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 5: All right, let's go back to the future.

1126
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 4: To the future.

1127
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 6: Time.

1128
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: This is a segment where we talk about what future

1129
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: we wish we had gotten on before the season started.

1130
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 5: Brandon, do you have a back in the future this week?

1131
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 7: I do so.

1132
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: I wish that I had taken the Atlanta Hawks to

1133
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: win the Southeast Division.

1134
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I got halfway there.

1135
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: If you remember on the first time I was on

1136
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: this podcast, I recommended betting against Miami making the playoffs.

1137
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 7: That was I think something like twelve.

1138
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: Hundred and I did not like Miami even before this started,

1139
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: and it's been playing out. This is a bet against

1140
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: Miami as much as it's a bet for Atlanta. I

1141
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: don't believe in Miami right now. I don't believe in

1142
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: the Jimmy Butler season ahead. I just I don't know

1143
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: about that team. The rest of the division is the

1144
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: Wizards nope, the Hornets, nope. The Magic, who I thought

1145
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: maybe would at least kind of have their baseline, but

1146
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: they're missing half of their team.

1147
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 7: That's it.

1148
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: That leaves the Hawks, and I don't super believe in

1149
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: the Hawks, but they can probably play a five hundred ball,

1150
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: maybe even below, and still win this division if the

1151
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: heat don't show up. Tree Young has not even been

1152
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: that good yet compared to last season, so he could

1153
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: get a little better. The Hawks haven't been that healthy yet.

1154
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: They're starting to get healthy again. Dan there Hunter is

1155
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: playing really well. Clint Cappella has made a huge difference.

1156
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: I'm just going to give a small shout here to

1157
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: something that I know is absolutely crazy. Clint Capella is

1158
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: a one hundred and twenty five to one at bet

1159
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 2: MGM to win Defensive Player of the Year. Right now,

1160
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: it's not he's not the defensive player of the year,

1161
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: but at one twenty five to one.

1162
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 3: You had us man, we were with you, and then

1163
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: he had to go to Capella win Defensive Player of

1164
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: the year.

1165
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 6: Just likes selling money on long shots. He likes lottery tickets.

1166
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: If I'm playing future, I want big odds. If I'm

1167
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: going to tie my money up for that long, I

1168
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: wanted to pay off when it gets there. And again

1169
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: that the twelve to one in Miami missing the playoffs.

1170
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the results speak for themselves, So forget the Capella.

1171
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: Back to the Hawks, I just feel like there's there's

1172
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: some things to like about them. I can't come up

1173
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: with anything I like about the rest of the division.

1174
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: So it's a bat against everyone else. It's a bat

1175
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 2: on Miami or sorry, on Atlanta by default. There's still

1176
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: plus three fifty at DraftKings too, so I think there's

1177
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: a real value there.

1178
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1179
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 5: I looked at that last night. We were doing a

1180
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 5: game and.

1181
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: For a project I can't reveal yet, but it's very

1182
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: exciting and so we were talking about that with some

1183
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: of that was justin fan about the Hawks of the division.

1184
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 5: I like that quite a bit.

1185
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 4: Raheem, what with yours?

1186
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with a long shot, since that's the

1187
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 6: game that we're playing. You've just got on it. That's

1188
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 6: the game we'll go play today. I'm gonna go with

1189
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 6: Chris Busch most improved and most improved Player.

1190
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this guy.

1191
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 6: I mean to me, the Raptors big have been horrid,

1192
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: you know, and this guy has stepped in.

1193
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 4: He's been incredible all year. He can he could hit

1194
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: the three.

1195
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 6: He's a little weak inside, but I just think the

1196
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 6: Raptors need this guy. And I think you know, he's

1197
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 6: at plus fourteen hundred now, but it was it was

1198
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 6: a lot higher earlier. I would have taken that.

1199
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of long odds on most Improved,

1200
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: I gave you guys, Jalen Brown a couple of weeks

1201
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: ago at thirty three hundred. How are you liking those

1202
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: odds right now? He's at plus six hundred on Draft

1203
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: Kings nicely, Jyleen Brown.

1204
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 7: He's he's an All Star's.

1205
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: People are talking about him as an MVP, which is ridiculous.

1206
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: He's not in the MVP conversation. But I just Chris Bouchet.

1207
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 7: I love him.

1208
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: I followed him since his G League. His jump and

1209
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: nobody's doing is awesome. But that's just not the sort

1210
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: of player that we end up giving the award to.

1211
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: So I gotta stick with Jalen that most improved.

1212
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good I think you're right, that's yeah,

1213
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 3: good call on Jalen Man.

1214
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 5: I mean, we'll see if he can hear. Like he's

1215
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 5: been so hot.

1216
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like this has got to regress at

1217
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: some point, right, like they do, you know, like.

1218
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 5: He's got to go back down at some point. But god,

1219
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 5: he's been. He's been so good on both ends of

1220
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 5: the floor.

1221
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 6: I mean it's probably gonna be it's probably gonna be

1222
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 6: Christian would But I mean, I think if you looking

1223
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 6: for a long.

1224
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 5: Shot, I don't know.

1225
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Bouchet has gotten a lot of attention.

1226
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 3: I think I think there's there's real value there. Jalen

1227
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: may not just because so many players, so many people thought,

1228
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: like the voters thought that he was good anyway, and

1229
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: they don't usually give it for good to great.

1230
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 5: They give it for non existent to good or I.

1231
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 6: Think he I mean he's had a high profile. He's

1232
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 6: been in the Eastern Conference Finals multiple times. Like we've

1233
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 6: seen this guy, So it's not like, you know, the

1234
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 6: media doesn't know who he.

1235
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: Is, right.

1236
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 5: Mine is I think it's too short now. I missed

1237
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 5: the window.

1238
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: I didn't take Clippers plus two fifty to win the

1239
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: division two weeks ago. Uh, And I'm mad at myself.

1240
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: I know the Lakers look awesome. I hope everything's fine

1241
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: with the COVID stuff with the Clippers. Reportedly they're not

1242
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: positive they have a tested positive. If they could keep

1243
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: losing while those guys are out, then that's an opportunity

1244
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 3: for those odds to drop, and I'll go ahead and

1245
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: grab it. I think the Clippers are actually gonna play

1246
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 3: harder in the regular season than they did last year.

1247
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: I think Thelippers going to play harder in the regular

1248
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 3: season than the Lakers will, which kind of goes back

1249
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: to the value on Kawhi for MVP. But that to

1250
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 3: me is like I took the Lakers to win the

1251
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 3: division last year. I have positions last year and the

1252
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 3: Lakers to win the division, and the Lakers to finished

1253
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: with a better record than the Clippers and the Lakers to.

1254
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: Win the title. So like that all that came through

1255
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 5: for me this year.

1256
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 3: I'm kind of zagging the other way where I think

1257
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: that that because everything is so focused on the Lakers,

1258
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: the Clippers are being overlooked given how well they've played.

1259
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: And I think that the Clippers are going to add

1260
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: a piece still. I think Lou Williams is going to

1261
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: end up getting moved for another piece that will help

1262
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: the team, help them push for the one seed. And

1263
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: what you said, I like the position. It's just that

1264
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: if the Clippers do win the division, I think they're

1265
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: the West one seed, and if they're the last one seed,

1266
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: now you start to build the case for Kawhi like

1267
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: you mentioned. And I feel like, while I like the

1268
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: division odds at two fifty, if I'm really getting Kawai

1269
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: a fifty to one now, if they're the one seed

1270
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: by beating the Lakers to get the one seed, I

1271
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: feel like that really bolsters the MVP position.

1272
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: So I you can.

1273
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: Say that, but the people that cover that team, I said,

1274
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: Paul George has been the best player this season for them.

1275
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I said a few nights ago.

1276
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 3: That's the thing is like having another star playing, and

1277
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: this is the same thing with Lebron eight is playing.

1278
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 3: I mean, eighties numbers are not great, and the Lakers

1279
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 3: fans have actually been complaining about him, but he's still

1280
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 3: been burbling around because the narrative around him is so high.

1281
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 6: So it's and I think the difference is the Lebron

1282
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 6: narrative outshines everybody everything. Kawhi is just to me, like,

1283
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 6: I'm still I still think he should have won the

1284
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen Award, and I think he's not the same

1285
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 6: player that he was then, Like he slipped a little

1286
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 6: bit defensively, Like he's still great, but I just think

1287
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 6: he's not going to overwhelm you.

1288
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 3: Argument of Yeah, I get the argument of it. If

1289
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: he's if he didn't win that season, he's not gonna

1290
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: win it. But I've also seen a lot of guys

1291
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 3: win it not in their best seasons. Kevin Durant was

1292
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: one of those. Like KDE's MV season, he was absolutely

1293
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: the best player and worth it, but he was better

1294
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 3: the year before. Like, yeah, that's all right, guys, let's

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Speaker 3: go to wrap it up for the Action Network podcast,

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Speaker 3: make sure to download our award winning app make sure

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Speaker 3: to check your bets. Make sure to follow us on

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Speaker 3: Twitter at Action Network HQ. You guys can catch all

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Speaker 3: of our work on the Action Network app. Guys, thanks

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Speaker 3: so much. We'll see you guys again next time.

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Speaker 5: On the Action Network podcast.

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Speaker 7: We're finished talking