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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: These are some of our favorite segments from this week,

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Speaker 1: all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. I am

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Speaker 1: all right, mob. We are thrilled to be joined by

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Speaker 1: a brilliant poet, political activist, academic MC and podcast host

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Speaker 1: of the Muckliss and Hood Politics with prop One cool Zone.

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Speaker 1: It's the brilliant, the talented Jason Petty aka Propaganda.

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Speaker 3: What up, y'all?

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Speaker 4: I might as well continue to tradition here, you know,

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Speaker 4: propaganda aka only win I get an email from and uh.

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Speaker 5: I'm on the daily Zi guys, I my name by

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Speaker 5: post hood pollogics with me, I sell.

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Speaker 1: Cold pro coffee.

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Speaker 6: That's prop a courtesy of me.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: That was a joint right there. Man. I was like, listen,

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Speaker 6: I keep them in the holster like true MC. Yeah?

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Speaker 6: How many man?

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Speaker 3: You ever?

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Speaker 6: Like? How many writtens do you ever? Like? If I'm

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Speaker 6: sure you know you go to freestyle battles and stuff,

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Speaker 6: how many writtens would you have in your back pocket?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: I mean I come from the age where you're not

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Speaker 4: supposed to have Yeah, yeah, I know in your back socket,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But but you get like

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Speaker 4: you it's more like you have like a grab bag

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Speaker 4: of like four bar eight bar some fish things in there.

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Speaker 4: Just yeah, if you get lost, you can pull something

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Speaker 4: out of there, right right. But yeah, but like a

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Speaker 4: full verse, someone's gonna catch you, you know, and then

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Speaker 4: then you can never come back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I remember being like really disappointed when I used to

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Speaker 6: think like mixtape freestyles were actual freestyles like get back

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Speaker 6: in the day, and like, no, they're workshopping like other

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Speaker 6: material that's going to end up on the track and

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Speaker 6: for the real head that was on that, that was

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Speaker 6: on that our deadline, Yeah, those are that Green Lantern mixtape.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I know, yeah, that kind of that kind of

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Speaker 4: goes to like what we're going to talk about later

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Speaker 4: on that attitude.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, talk about that when we get there, sure for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, what we are talking about today is

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Speaker 1: hip hop. It is the fiftieth anniversary.

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Speaker 6: We're going to just talk.

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Speaker 1: General thoughts on Yeah, how to go fifty years in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so what do we like? We just listened to

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Speaker 1: some hip hop and we're all getting back together. What

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Speaker 1: do we think? What is something from your search history?

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Speaker 7: Well it's pretty dark. Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go okay, yeah, it's not even new and

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Speaker 2: yet let's.

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Speaker 1: Go just like about that jkrewlling joke real quick.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready, get you a good place I can

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Speaker 2: bring it down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my last weekend news I tried to pitch the

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Speaker 2: story that we never were able to do because we

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Speaker 2: didn't get a call back. But I was living and

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Speaker 2: working in Baltimore at the time and the like beloved

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Speaker 2: giraffe at the zoo died and I wanted to know

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Speaker 2: what they do with zoo animals when they die, Like

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Speaker 2: do they have a draft funeral? Do they bury them?

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Speaker 2: Is there a draft graveyard? Like what happens to them?

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Speaker 2: And we never got a call back, and it's been

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Speaker 2: bothering me for years, so very recently I googled it

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Speaker 2: and apparently they all get cremated, but not for reasons

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Speaker 2: that you might think. They get cremated so that people

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Speaker 2: can't sell their body parts like on the black market.

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Speaker 6: Oh and get like a giraffe skeleton. You're like, nobody's

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Speaker 6: getting this Skelly right.

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Speaker 7: If we can't have it, you can't either.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that is so selfish. I want to buy a

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Speaker 1: draft skeleton.

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Speaker 7: That's very tall ceilings in your apartment.

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Speaker 6: Do they have horns? What's the ship on the top

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Speaker 6: of their head?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Some of them have like those little.

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Speaker 7: Guys antennas for Wi Fi Oh.

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Speaker 6: Yeah five g Yeah, yeah, those aren't because they have

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Speaker 6: ears and them like knobs too, right, mm hmm. Okay,

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Speaker 6: that's that's my that's my stupid question that I want

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Speaker 6: to contribute to this discussion about giraffe anatomy, giraffe head knobs.

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Speaker 6: We'll see what comes up that. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, awesome. Where can I buy them?

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Speaker 7: Zoo?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, Google giraffe olsome cones for sale.

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Speaker 1: So wait, did you google the shopping tab of Google

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Speaker 1: or did you image results?

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Speaker 2: Actually on Facebook marketplace. They're very friends to the black market, right.

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Speaker 6: Wait, so at the time when you were covering that

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Speaker 6: story to the the giraffe just kind of passed away

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Speaker 6: to the natural, natural causes. It wasn't like a dubious

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Speaker 6: or drug death, was it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Fentanel's really imfiltrating the Zoo.

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Speaker 7: Either side of natural causes.

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Speaker 2: Actually, okay, wait on that same subject, do you guys

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Speaker 2: know this like Famous hippo Fiona is like, I think

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Zoo.

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Speaker 1: I am not no, I'm nope, mill oat, yes, okay.

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Speaker 6: Go on.

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Speaker 7: Hippo content is huge on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Fiona is a slab and apparently like that's the same

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Speaker 2: zoo that Harambe was shot at. So they've just done

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Speaker 2: this whole rebrand with his hippo and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 2: you can't like get away from your dark past.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, wow Cincinnati. So are they just like cranking

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Speaker 6: out stars at the Cincinnati Zoo or something.

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Speaker 7: Apparently they got a really good pr team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah for real.

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Speaker 1: When I google Cincinnati Zoo hippo, I see that they're

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Speaker 1: mourning the loss of Henry the hippo oh fag at

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 6: Oh twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well they probably killed him.

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Speaker 1: The father of Famous Fiona, Oh Fiona's father.

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Speaker 6: Oh you hate this, you hate to see it.

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Speaker 1: They're kind of setting us up for a disaster because

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Speaker 1: hippos are you know, they they will kill motherfucker. Like real,

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Speaker 1: They're they're very deadly in the right circumstances. So that

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Speaker 6: Would I say, like, hippos are actually the most dangerous,

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Speaker 6: like if like to humans, it's not this or that,

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Speaker 6: but yeah, that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: It's what they do besides mosquitoes. That's my kid's favorite

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Speaker 1: fact right now. Mosquito animal is mosquitoes.

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Speaker 6: Because you're going very narrow for like blood born illnesses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, which my younger kid up because he gets

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Speaker 1: a lot of mosquito bites. He's got that sweet sweet

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Speaker 1: blood that the mosquitoes prey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so nothing nothing you can do sitting in bed

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Speaker 1: waiting for mosquitos to come and bite you to death.

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Speaker 6: But he doesn't, like, he doesn't fuck with him, be like, oh,

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Speaker 6: you know, like you could get you know what you

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Speaker 6: could get from that massaine.

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Speaker 1: I think he does, like and we're not around it

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Speaker 1: would be my guess, yes, as an effect that my

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Speaker 1: youngest hair has turned completely white.

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Speaker 7: Second word was zeka.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something that you think is overrated?

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Speaker 8: DIY projects? Do you ever watch those YouTube videos and

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Speaker 8: it's like the guys I was doing backyard work and

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Speaker 8: he's like Oh, I'm just gonna level the sand out

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Speaker 8: with a couple of little PBC pipes and so two

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Speaker 8: by four and then you know, I'm gonna wrap it

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Speaker 8: up for the day and then come back in. They

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Speaker 8: never show you what happens afterward. They didn't show you,

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Speaker 8: like the couple's therapy that that man had to go

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Speaker 8: into after he ignored his wife for two days. And

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Speaker 8: so my wife looks at these and we try to

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Speaker 8: do a backyard project and it's not the same. I

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Speaker 8: looked at these, you it looks so easy. All of

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Speaker 8: a sudden, it's like one hundred and five degrees. I'm

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Speaker 8: holding like a fifty pound two by two concrete paver,

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Speaker 8: and I'm like, I don't know how to level this sand.

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Speaker 8: This was a total mistake. She's pregnant, she doesn't she

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Speaker 8: can't hate, She literally can't help, and so she's just

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Speaker 8: trying to tell me what to do. I was like,

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Speaker 8: you don't know how hard this is, and cut.

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Speaker 1: To we're carrying something heavy around for a long period

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Speaker 1: of time.

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Speaker 9: I did what like, and then cut to we're like

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Speaker 9: yelling at our couple's therapists, like you don't even know

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Speaker 9: what's going on in this backyard. It's like it almost

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Speaker 9: ruined us, just this one tiny backyard project.

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Speaker 8: I was like, these DIY videos are all scamps. They

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Speaker 8: don't show you the editing, they don't show you anything

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Speaker 8: else that happens. How many takes did he have to

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Speaker 8: do to get that level sand I don't know.

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Speaker 6: They also don't show the decades of work and repetitions

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Speaker 6: these people put in to make it look so fucking

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Speaker 6: You're like, well, that guy just did it in one thing.

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Speaker 6: It's like, but he's doing all these computations as he

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Speaker 6: does it that he's not even describing in the video.

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Speaker 6: Because I feel like all the time, like, oh, this

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Speaker 6: would be easy if I like had actual carpentry skills.

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Speaker 6: It's not just like like a master apprentice of some kind.

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Speaker 6: You know, I didn't know any of this stuff. I

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Speaker 6: mean I went to law school. I can I can write,

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Speaker 6: I can pinch zoom on a touch screen.

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Speaker 8: I can do that very well. I mean that's one

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Speaker 8: of the mast Can we see that index and thumbly

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Speaker 8: look at that dramatic hand had he just snapped on

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Speaker 8: that zoom screen?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Man, Every every DIY project, every cooking thing takes me

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Speaker 1: three times as much as the time estimate. Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong with me, but I am just

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Speaker 1: so slow. I have to like watch it, watch it again.

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Speaker 1: I'm old. I think is possibly what it is. But

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Speaker 1: even like I have a bowling as recipe that is

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at. I've been making it since you know,

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Speaker 1: I was in my early twenties, and it doesn't get

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Speaker 1: any faster. It's just three hours, all right, this is

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Speaker 1: what we're doing all afternoon. Just don't come in the

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Speaker 1: kitchen because I'm going to be in there being very slow.

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Speaker 1: I also like listen to like I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: ever want to focus on the DIY product I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to like listen to a book.

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Speaker 1: I wanna you know, like catch up on some emails.

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Speaker 1: That probably the problem, right.

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Speaker 8: The information age has given us this false sense of yes,

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Speaker 8: the information is out there, and that means you can

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Speaker 8: achieve whatever it's kind of conveying to you. And that's

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Speaker 8: not that's not true, Like you shouldn't be doing these

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Speaker 8: things like I can't do a wall installment of a

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Speaker 8: cabinetry thing just because they did like an eight minute

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Speaker 8: YouTube video about it. No, don't do that why should

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Speaker 8: I do that. It's not the right thing for me

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Speaker 8: to do.

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Speaker 1: What is uh, what's something that you think is underrated? Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go? Oh, speaking of here we go, Wow,

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Speaker 1: we got a baby, the geist child cometh.

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Speaker 11: They sweat red, it looks like blood, So it's just

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Speaker 6: Like they're in Palm Springs, just shitting on themselves sweating

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Speaker 11: Look, look, that's what most people. That's what they do

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Speaker 6: You just have this say. I can't wait for that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Warner Werner Herzog presents Hippo Girl.

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Speaker 6: As she went tools to Africa for one last time,

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Speaker 11: I just want to do that so that when I die,

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Speaker 11: You can hear the exact sound when she's her snaps

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like when you go to a sushi restaurant

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Speaker 1: And she's weirdly saying it seems to be fucking enjoying.

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Speaker 6: I guess the way Jack, you would respond if you're

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Speaker 6: Was enjoying man be present. Please are you.

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Speaker 11: Spoilers for a movie from nineteen seventy six or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my bad, Joe. All right, jaw let's break and

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Speaker 1: and we're back. We're and the border wall fundraising grift

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Speaker 1: So that worms my heart a little bit to him,

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Speaker 1: That he pocketed approximately one hundred and eighty thousand dollars

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Speaker 8: We covered a little bit of this in between the seasons.

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Speaker 6: Just let me that's a baseless accusation.

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Speaker 8: Do we need a disclaimer? I don't want to get

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Speaker 8: to raise money for herschel Walker. You'd be subscribed to

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Speaker 8: And so you click like donate to herschel Walker, you

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Speaker 8: So you're just, don't they know. People are just gonna

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Speaker 1: It's instead of getting a cool pair of UFO slippers,

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Speaker 8: group of people to influence and they have gotten scammed

444
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 8: over and over and over again. It's just seventy four

445
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 8: million of them, unfortunately.

446
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, you hate to see it. You just

447
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: don't hate to see it quite as much as you

448
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: do with other vulnerable populations.

449
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

450
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: In case, well, speaking of vulnerable populations, the fascists who

451
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: are for Ron DeSantis. The job security is not great,

452
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: not at this moment.

453
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Speaker 6: It turns out, it's like I said, like you said

454
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 6: at the top, it's sole fire in time down at

455
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 6: the Florida fash factory because you know, recently, earlier this week,

456
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 6: Desanta's assured supporters and donors, He's like, okay, look, I'm

457
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 6: firing a third of my staff because it's part of

458
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 6: a retooling, a great reset, if you will, to make

459
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 6: my campaign leaner and meaner, to be this like insurgent

460
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 6: campaign to defeat Donald trumpyeh, okay, whatever. But anyway, one

461
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 6: of the people who got caught up in the layoffs

462
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 6: was his speech writer, this guy named Nate Hawkman. And

463
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 6: at first you're like, okay, fine, a speech writer got off, Sure,

464
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 6: But if you look deeper, you realize that this guy

465
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 6: was a fucking Nazi fanboy on the payroll who contributed

466
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 6: a ton of articles to the National Review. Was like,

467
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 6: you know, talking all the time about like how dope

468
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 6: Nick Fuentes is and like other groyper bullshit, and also

469
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 6: got semi famous for gushing over how Tucker Carlson like

470
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 6: called him once because he was having a bad time,

471
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 6: I think because he was like outed as a Nazi.

472
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 6: And it's also becoming clear that this guy was the

473
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Speaker 6: one who not only shared a video that came out

474
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Speaker 6: recently with a fucking sunenrad or sunwheel, which is like

475
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 6: a huge part of like Nazi white supremacy psychonography, that

476
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 6: had DeSantis like super imposed on it. This guy is

477
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 6: the fucking person who made it. At first, they made

478
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Speaker 6: it seem like they were just sharing something from a fan,

479
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 6: but now we find out it was coming from inside

480
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 6: the house. And it's not clear if it's the same

481
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 6: dude behind the other weird ass videos we've seen come

482
00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 6: out of Ron DeSantis's campaign, but I bet there was, yeah,

483
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 6: just completely off the wall, like weird covers of Kate

484
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 6: Bush running up the hill, like just all kinds of weird,

485
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 6: Like last couple of videos have been really weird too,

486
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 6: But I have a feeling it probably a good chance

487
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 6: it may have been this guy too, because of the

488
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 6: grouper aesthetic and just like the sort of shit posty

489
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 6: vibe of all the videos. And you know, it's not

490
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 6: good news for Ron right now.

491
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Speaker 1: He seems pretty fucked, like pretty well fucked. Like every

492
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: mainstream media, every every outlet has just agreed that he's fucked,

493
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: which might be the best thing for him. I still

494
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to succeed, but probably needs to

495
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: completely retool or do something to change the trajectory. I

496
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: think the biggest problem being that he's just a fucking

497
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Speaker 1: he's just the least charismatic human being you've ever seen. Yeah,

498
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: try and community how.

499
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Speaker 6: The least charismatic nazi out. Yeah, yeah, wow, they're usually

500
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 6: really animated. But yeah, I think I think it's Yeah again,

501
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 6: it's it's having like the charisma of like a Manila envelope,

502
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 6: and also just having no one on your staff who

503
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 6: has like any kind of real campaign experience. From what

504
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 6: like I've heard, there's not. He's like hired people who'd

505
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 6: say things that are not yes, you know, basically, And

506
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 6: so I think he probably saw this, you know, this

507
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 6: young guy, and he's like, hey, you're a young can

508
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 6: you make some cool videos that will resonate? But little

509
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 6: did he realize, like this guy, this kid is just

510
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 6: like a like a four Chan shit poster type mentality. So,

511
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 6: you know, the videos that come out were only really

512
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 6: resonating with other racist weirdos and not so much expanding

513
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 6: a bass.

514
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Speaker 8: I would say, nice guy, Nate, are you kidding me?

515
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 8: Nice guy Nate?

516
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Speaker 11: He did this?

517
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,239
Speaker 8: Nice Nice guy Nate what are you talking about? You know,

518
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 8: the Ron DeSantis is like there's this I can't remember

519
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 8: where I read. It was like this chart of like

520
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 8: his likability after the first time you meet him, and

521
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 8: then it just like plummets after that because like in

522
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 8: the news you see him do this thing like he's

523
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 8: going after Disney and there's a certain part of the

524
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 8: population it's like, oh yeah, and then you like me

525
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 8: and like this guy kind of blows. He's so boring.

526
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 8: And then if you even see all the videos that

527
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 8: I normally am not like, okay, if they don't have

528
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 8: a professionally run campaign, their toast right. We got Donald

529
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 8: Trump because of that. But he's good at the media.

530
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 8: This guy is awful. Every video you see of him,

531
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 8: he's got this weird robot laugh. He's like staring at

532
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 8: his eyes are looking too big, you know, you can

533
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 8: see the whites of people's eyes too much, and it's

534
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 8: like a huge flag. He like, it's just he's looking

535
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 8: too intensely at people, and no one can go like

536
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 8: connect with him. I haven't seen him kiss one baby either,

537
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 8: which I think is another flag.

538
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Speaker 6: One thing I've seen him is wipe snot on a

539
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 6: guy's shoulder like him at a fundraise. He like wipes

540
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 6: his nose like aggressively and then just like pats this

541
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 6: guy who's sitting down on the shoulder like you just okay, sir.

542
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 8: Will be the most normal thing he's done.

543
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Watching him try and like palor around with people in

544
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: diners is worth Like it's just him showing up at

545
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: a diner and just yeah, laughing way too hard at

546
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: like nothing and just freaking out, like not being able

547
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: to eat any of the food because he's on like

548
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: some strict Hollywood diet. But he's like trying to be

549
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: like man of the people, sugar man.

550
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, give me that cheeseburger. Okay, where's my spit pag?

551
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 8: You like peppers in your home fries?

552
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

553
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 12: No onions? No onions in my in my home fries. Please,

554
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 12: I can't handle it. They acid is too much for me.

555
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 12: And no potatoes either. Wait what do you want like

556
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 12: the red Yeah, just the green bell pepper.

557
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 6: Wait? What do you have? A warm bowl? One ladle

558
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 6: of chicken broth and uh cumin. He spices it up

559
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 6: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I bet he's hung out with Gwyneth Paltrow before m maybe.

561
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Speaker 6: I mean he has I would sooner believe that, rather

562
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 6: than Ron de Santa's being in some kind of like

563
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 6: Hollywood goop scenario, that Gwyneth Paltrow would have been at

564
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 6: Guantanamo Bay for some reason.

565
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: Secret weapon.

566
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, like that's where they hung out, like or she's like,

567
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 6: oh yeah, this is just give me a lot. I

568
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 6: love the aesthetic here.

569
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 8: Those prisoners need to moisturize.

570
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, she actually uses tears as moisture. It's like there

571
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: there's something about the content of torture tears that she

572
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: uses to and then she just enters the room and

573
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: all the moisture gets sucked out of them and like

574
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: goes under her body.

575
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: Oh wait, I've got this great idea for a new

576
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 6: baby baby shampoo guanteer, no moores.

577
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: Tear, no wars, Oh shit, trademark that just baby shampoo,

578
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: baby shampoof. All right, And then Trump seems uncomfortable. Yeah,

579
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people over on the right seeming uncomfortable.

580
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we're it's always a big news story,

581
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: Like especially when the Democrats aren't in the White House,

582
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: the like Democrats in disarray, they're like freaking out and

583
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: like wondering what to do, and no candidate is coming

584
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: forward and pulling it together. I feel like we're getting

585
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: the pub the Republicans in disarray, folks.

586
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's kind of freaking out.

587
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: It took a lot to get the media there. But

588
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of also being like, these guys

589
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: kind of stink.

590
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like it wasn't the part where they were talking

591
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 6: about how they thought Lauren Bobert and Marjorie Taylor Green

592
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 6: would start fist fighting.

593
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: At any moment.

594
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: Everything's all good over there. But yeah, last time we

595
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 6: checked with Trump, he was screaming on truth social or

596
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 6: rather like uploading full, like three page PDF rants about

597
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 6: his legal issues. Again, that's the guys child. You hear

598
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 6: mooning back there, So that's should say, hello.

599
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: Hi, capture that it's a drop and I'm teaching.

600
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 6: I'm teaching everybody about the shitty former president. So right now,

601
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 6: you know, like he was talking about, we felt that, Okay,

602
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 6: there's obviously an indictment coming based on how much screaming

603
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 6: he's doing on social and whether that's the DC like

604
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 6: overturning the election case or the RICO in Fulton County,

605
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 6: Georgia yet to be seen. But he's clearly in give

606
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 6: me attention and money mode right now, which makes perfect

607
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 6: sense because a lot of the reporting suggest all these

608
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 6: cases not even you can just imagine all these cases

609
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 6: require a lot of expensive lawyers, especially the ones that

610
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 6: have like specific curity clearances and can deal with the

611
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 6: kinds of issues that Trump has. So that's one issue

612
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 6: for him. And also like these semi veiled threats he's

613
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 6: been making the last couple of weeks as it relates

614
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 6: to his supporters that they're very passionate and I'd hate

615
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 6: for something bad to happen. I know you would hate

616
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 6: for something bad to happen to you, guys. Child. There

617
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 6: doesn't seem to be like that groundswell of the Maga

618
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 6: freakouts that we had leading up to January sixth, although

619
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 6: he's trying desperately to try and create that atmosphere. So

620
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 6: now he is asking Congress to please help me, and

621
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna play this clip.

622
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: That he as sorry, and I do just want to

623
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: acknowledge that, I mean, that was crazy. So during when

624
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Miles was doing the Trump impression, he just held the

625
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: Geist child up and the Trump voice came out of

626
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: the Geist. Yeah, it's an amazing impression. Did you do

627
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: that resonant voice.

628
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: You're truly my boy. You love that he's really good.

629
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 6: You hear that he's working. He's doing a lot better. Okay,

630
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 6: So here's Trump begging Congress because he's the comfortable v

631
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 6: confident nothing's going on. But you tell me if this

632
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 6: sounds like somebody who's about doing.

633
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: This is direct to camera in front of conservatively fourteen

634
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: American flags.

635
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's crammed seventy thousand flags into one frame somehow.

636
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 13: Congress, if you will please investigate the political witch hunts

637
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 13: against me currently being brought by the corrupt DOJ and FBI,

638
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 13: who are totally out of control after Biden with all

639
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 13: of his corruption, the most corrupt president in history, but

640
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 13: they keep coming after me from the day I came

641
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 13: down the escalator all failures. This continuing saga is retribution

642
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 13: against me for winning and even more importantly to them election.

643
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 6: And then he goes on he's there trying to fuck

644
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 6: up twenty twenty four. This is their version of stealing

645
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 6: the vote. I just love the energy that it starts

646
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 6: off with. I'm just gonna play it again because he's like, Congress, Congress,

647
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: if you will please, Congress. I think someone was like,

648
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 6: why don't you just don't sound so desperate? Right, Okay, yeah, Congress,

649
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 6: if you will please please.

650
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: He's reading off a prompter, like you can tell he's

651
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: very He's one of the easiest people to tell the difference,

652
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: and he's very He's way less effective as a communicator

653
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: when he's reading off your prompt.

654
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 6: The prompt he does that shoulder pivot, like he changes

655
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 6: his shouldering his shoulders, yeah, rocking. Yeah.

656
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 8: Just imagine the number of people that I've had to

657
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 8: learn to write in.

658
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: His voice, yeah Congress. Yeah, Well, I'm sure he has notes,

659
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Speaker 1: but I feel like he probably writes a little bit

660
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Speaker 1: differently than fewer words.

661
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 8: Slit trimmed that down more caps, more caps, but.

662
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Speaker 1: It does feel like weirdly formal, like he's like, Okay,

663
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing the thing, the big like plan, you know,

664
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Speaker 1: deaf Con five. I'm going to ask Congress to help me.

665
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

666
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't like throwing it.

667
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 8: Back to the escalator speech, which was the one where

668
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 8: he called a whole country rapist. I mean, it's like,

669
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 8: this is this is the one, this is the image

670
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 8: you want to bring back. I guess that was like

671
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 8: a great dividing line in our country. Because some people

672
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 8: watch that and we're like, wow, this man's maning. Other

673
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 8: people are like, well, this guy.

674
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: Makes a lot of stuff.

675
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm Kermit man.

676
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Speaker 8: This is what happened a kid does he It's like

677
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 8: I just go into like some weird Elmo Kermit voice thing.

678
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Well, he's all about like green, green grievance policy. Yeah,

679
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's you know, it's not easy being green.

680
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: Everyone Anyways, Emo believes that white men are being punished.

681
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: Again, incredible work.

682
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 6: We don't like those takes. White men are not being

683
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 6: punished merely for the crime of existing. Hold on his hand.

684
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, like so this is almost Dad does have

685
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: a big soul patch by the way.

686
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 6: Just oh yeah, he is like one of those he

687
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 6: has like a muppet soul patch. Yeah yeah, yeah, I

688
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 6: don't know what I think about that.

689
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: He could have been a January sixth.

690
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh absolutely. But the thing is, like we've talked

691
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 6: about this in the past with all these stories, Like

692
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 6: I get I get it he's being indicted, but like

693
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 6: also I don't have faith in the legal system to

694
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 6: actually dole out justice in the way that like we

695
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: see it, you know, be heavy handed for many other people.

696
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 6: So the only thing that really makes me feel that

697
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 6: this is somewhat real is just that Trump is clearly uncomfortable. Yes,

698
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 6: And I don't want to say scared because I think

699
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 6: it's too powerful of a word. And I honestly, I'm

700
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 6: not sure he's capable of the sensation of fear as

701
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 6: it relates to legal issues, because this man has been

702
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 6: able to skirt, sidestep, juke, dodge whatever, spin out of

703
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: all kinds of legal issues that I think for him

704
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 6: is just more like uh shit, they might do Okay,

705
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 6: you gotta do your thing now, more than like.

706
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: Dude, please, Yeah. All though it's weird, he brings the

707
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: energy of an infomercial to this plea to Congress to

708
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: like subvert democracy.

709
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: He has.

710
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: It's the same energy he has when he's like selling

711
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: Trump water and Trump steaks. He's just like, all right,

712
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: this is my next venture. I'm going to talk to Congress.

713
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: And it's something's going like the the Fulton what do

714
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: we call the Fulton indictment is like.

715
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 6: The Fulton County, yeah, County case.

716
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: The Fulton County charges seem like they're coming and they

717
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: seem like they're the I mean they're the ones we

718
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: know the most about, right because it was so out

719
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: in the open. Well, yeah, he we've heard recordings of

720
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: him trying to pressure the state's top election official to

721
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: find eleven votes to flip the results. His campaign recruited

722
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: fake electors who signed off on a failed bid to

723
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: eventually replace three ones in Congress to like overthrow the election.

724
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: A local Republicans snuck into a county election office to

725
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: tamper with voting equipment. That's those are all like, those

726
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: are pretty big.

727
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 6: And they're all talking too. None of them were like

728
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 6: it ain't some Omerica shit where they're like, yeah, nice, try,

729
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 6: I ain't saying nothing. I'll do a fucking ten ten

730
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 6: ten year stretch on my head. No, they are talking

731
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 6: and again, like like we said, the second Brad Raffensberger

732
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 6: came out from like Georgia to be like, uh, I

733
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 6: don't know if y'all know what this guy's just trying

734
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 6: to make me pull. I was like, well, yeah, I

735
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 6: don't know, I don't Republican. Yeah, I don't know what

736
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 6: other investigating will need to be done, but hey, here

737
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 6: we are the.

738
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 8: Thing that I think always he gets like exonerated on

739
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 8: all the times. In some of these cases, is like

740
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 8: his mental state and what he was doing were different.

741
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 8: He didn't intend on doing any of these things. Like

742
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 8: I think the January sixth thing, he may be able

743
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 8: to get off for inciting violence because he's like, I'm

744
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 8: just talking, But these other things where it's like the

745
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 8: classified document where they now have him on recording saying

746
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 8: this is a classified document that I'm not allowed to declassify.

747
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 8: This recording where he's talking directly saying I don't think

748
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 8: this was right, you should do this. These all speak

749
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 8: to like his intention and what he wants someone to do,

750
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 8: and then the act is the act. Everyone gets it.

751
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 8: And so that I think gives me faith in the

752
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 8: judicial process when it comes to this kind of stuff

753
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 8: where I don't have faith in it. Is like when

754
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 8: there's a jury that can be influenced by a narrative

755
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 8: in a very clear way, right, Like he was just

756
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 8: motivating people to use their powers of peaceful protest. Yeah,

757
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 8: I can see a jury just being like who you know,

758
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 8: and it's all kermits and so yeah. So yeah, that's

759
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 8: why I think these ones are interesting, and I like

760
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 8: how they waited at least a while to come down

761
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 8: with these indictments. You gotta really get dialed in if

762
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 8: you're gonna do this.

763
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's like with you could

764
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 6: already see just sort of with Judge Cannon in you know,

765
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 6: South Florida, how she's already beginning to influence things with

766
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 6: her you know, love of Trump. But yeah, like it's

767
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 6: these other cases that seem again where it has much

768
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 6: less wiggle room, especially again like for this Fulton case,

769
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 6: where like most people saw this without having to like

770
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 6: you know, go through the process of like discovery or

771
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 6: investigating or anything like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.

772
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 6: I remember hearing that. I remember seeing that.

773
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: Sure, not gonna lie. A lot of people saw that.

774
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be back.

775
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: We'll talk UFO.

776
00:38:50,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: Hearings, and we're back.

777
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 6: We're back.

778
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: And if I seem a little distant, it is because

779
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm coming to you from the like fifteen seconds in

780
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: the past. For some reason, there's a fucking long ass

781
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: leg that is happening. I'm pay that hearing everything everybody says.

782
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: Ten seconds later, I apologize to our guest, I apologize

783
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: to my parents. I'm better than this.

784
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 6: I promised didn't apologize to me, though I apologize to Miles,

785
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 6: of course.

786
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like you're used to it at this point.

787
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, the non apologies, Yeah, a little too used to

788
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 6: them at this point.

789
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: All right, should we talk Oppenheimer? Well, I don't think, Miles,

790
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: you haven't seen Oppenheimer yet?

791
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 12: Nah?

792
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 6: Nah? This week though, this week I will go to

793
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 6: look at Killian Murphy's spooky face and Imax.

794
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: I think spooky face. I need his botox beautiful face.

795
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 6: Wait, hold on, okay, wait, what so you Killion he

796
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 6: doesn't look haunted as fuck to you.

797
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, but maybe that's my thing.

798
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm just making sure we're seeing the same thing.

799
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not knocking you if that's what you're into,

800
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 6: but I'm like, he hunted. Uh but I get that.

801
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 6: Then that's why he stays working, because you can't fake

802
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: that face like.

803
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: A good, hollowed out husk of a man person.

804
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, great.

805
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: Have you seen the picture where people like took pictures

806
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: from the front row of the.

807
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 10: Imax and it's like it's just so warped because oh,

808
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 10: it's just a wall wall sized close up of his

809
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 10: face and it's like, man, his right jowl is really

810
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 10: the star of this shot.

811
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 6: They shouldn't, they shouldn't. They shouldn't sell seats that close

812
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 6: to the fucking screen, because I saw a barbie in

813
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 6: the second row and I was definitely testing like the

814
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 6: limits of like what is too close to a screen

815
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: because it's like a bigger screen, and I was like,

816
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 6: my head was like jerking around. But then also like

817
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 6: the perspective does shift a bit when you're the viewing

818
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 6: angles so acute. Anyway, why am I? Why am I

819
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 6: going to complain to the capitalist theaters to be sell

820
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 6: less seats? Okay, to make the experience better for everyone?

821
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: Find if you just stand on your seat and in

822
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: an athletics position and then just look back and forth

823
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: really fast the whole time.

824
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 6: That helps. Yeah, blends into one image, all right.

825
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: So Oppenheimer, as we mentioned on our weekend digest, as

826
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: making way more money than anyone expected, currently has ninety

827
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: four percent approval rating from critics and audiences on Rotten Tomatoes,

828
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: and it's coming under some heat for some things that

829
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: it just kind of glosses glosses over.

830
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I keep I feel like this week I've seen

831
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 6: NonStop articles about like, like what the movie gets right,

832
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 6: and what is made up? Or are there things like

833
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 6: here's the real Oppenheimer story or things you probably didn't

834
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 6: know were not there in the Oppenheimer movie. That seems

835
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 6: like to be a lot of taking up a lot

836
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 6: of space right now as people watch it, are.

837
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: The articles like they actually dropped those bombs on.

838
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 6: Up?

839
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Like do you see how big those things were and

840
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: like super hot? They don't know if you know this,

841
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: but like that's those bombs like killed a lot of

842
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: people after it wasn't just him having sex with Florence

843
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Pugh all the time in front of Congress. Yeah, yeah,

844
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: but so I guess Oppenheimer illustrates the devastation and his

845
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: guilt only through like subjective visions that Oppenheimer has. The

846
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 1: whole movie is told from his perspective, right, like stays

847
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: on the perspective of Oppenheimer himself, which conveniently allows a

848
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: movie about one of the greatest horrors of modern history

849
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: to be blockbuster entertainment for mainstream audiences.

850
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 6: Right, it's like, but he was so conflicted when he

851
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 6: made it though, Yeah, so you know, but also people's

852
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: shadows were burnt into concrete from the play.

853
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: He felt bad yeah, right, right, right, Yeah.

854
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 6: I don't know, like.

855
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: Hot take, I feel like like it's almost like going

856
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: to McDonald's, Like I don't go to McDonald's to feel good, Like, yeah,

857
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: I don't think everybody's going to Oppenheimer to like learn history,

858
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: like you're just learning about this weird dude.

859
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

860
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 6: I think it on some level, Like I get that

861
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 6: like as a as a work of like entertainment, it's like, Okay,

862
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 6: there's plenty of like bummer shit you can watch if

863
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 6: you really want to like drill down into like the

864
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 6: atom bomb and shit like that. But I think for

865
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 6: like when you're talking about someone who's what they're, what they're,

866
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 6: what they gave to the world, and you kind of

867
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 6: avoid like what that actually ends up being, then it

868
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 6: feels a little bit like wha are you telling the

869
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 6: whole story to just kind of focus on him there?

870
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 6: Because I I think there is so much complexity there

871
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: that you can make like a good story out of.

872
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 6: But I get why people be like, huh, you kind

873
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 6: of glossed over, like what where all that work led?

874
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 6: But okay, yeah, big part of the story. Yeah yeah, yeah.

875
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: So one of the details that I writer Jam kind

876
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: of points out. It also gets glossed over. In addition

877
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: to the dropping of the bombs in Japan is the

878
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: land in Los Almos, where the Manhattan Brought Project was based.

879
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: Was like, first of all, forcibly secured and Indigenous and

880
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Hispanic communities were relocated. Lands were seized by armed soldiers

881
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: who showed up with letters written in English that like

882
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: the people who lived there couldn't understand because they sent

883
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: no translators. And part of the reasoning that the military

884
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: and Appenheimer specifically used to pick Los Almos as the

885
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: site of the Manhattan Project was because competing sites such

886
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: as in Utah would have meant evicting white farmers. And

887
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: they also saw the dispossessed Hispanic and Indigenous residents as

888
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: a potential quote cheap labor force for the Manhattan Press.

889
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 6: Oh my god. So they're like, Okay, once they're displaced,

890
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 6: they're going to be desperate enough to come work for us.

891
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, even if you're centering his point of

892
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: view and like his decision making going into this, it

893
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: is like you were having to do a lot of

894
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 1: work on his behalf to just make him seem humane.

895
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: And the big thing is like and this This part

896
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: feels wildly cinematic, like the sort of thing that Christopher

897
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Nolan would have to explicitly be like, man, that would

898
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: be an amazing thing to show. Is that, like they

899
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: knew the area around the Trinity test site was like

900
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: far from uninhabited. So they're like all these communities who

901
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: lived around the like where they set off the explosion,

902
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: who are not warned about the dangers of the experiments

903
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: and like, so there're like dozens of families within twenty

904
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: miles and these are like largely poor families and ranchers

905
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: and farmers. And there were like all these storms on

906
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: the day that they were supposed to conduct the test,

907
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: and a physicist warrened Oppenheimer that this could be a

908
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: cattack astrophe, and Oppenheimer relayed this message to the military

909
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: by saying, the weather today is whimsical.

910
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 6: Oh, it'll whimsically carry radioactive fallout miles away.

911
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Is that what he iss?

912
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 6: Very whimsically, Oh the whimsy of radio radioactivity? Okay, okay, Yeah.

913
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: He had that cool quote about being become death destroyer

914
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: of worlds, burning a hole in his pocket, and he

915
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta use this thing, man, Like this

916
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: is gonna fucking rule when we set this thing.

917
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 6: Dude, you gotta put you know how thick the glasses are,

918
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 6: you gotta put on even fucking look at it. It's

919
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: gonna be fucking wild. Bro. I love though, too, that

920
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 6: the guy who told him that was in Rico Fermi.

921
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and Rika of the Fermi paradox for people

922
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 6: who like to talk about like space life out there.

923
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, make a story about him. Yeah yeah, seriously,

924
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: So just a little like scene that was omitted. So

925
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: the a meteorologist warned that the weather that morning was

926
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: likely to spread fallout far and wide over New Mexico's

927
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: civilian population, right in the middle of a period of thunderstorm.

928
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: The meteorologists complained in his journal of the scheduled test,

929
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: what son of a bitch could have done this? And

930
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: so as the storm raged in hours before the test,

931
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: Fermi warns Oppenheimer there could be a catastrophe. Oppenheimer took

932
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: a break from the reading the poetry of Baudelaire to

933
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: relay to the military the weather is whimsical thing. I

934
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: love that he's fucking reading poetry, like just being as

935
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: he's about to like end the lives of people and

936
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: like you know, poison generations.

937
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 6: Right right right, because yeah, that fallout is like a

938
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 6: still a legacy to this day.

939
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely know about it. It affects people's DNA.

940
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: Also, that quote is so corny, like why, like, I

941
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: don't know if you're like quoting what the fucking death thing?

942
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 7: Like that guy shouldn't be allowed to make decisions.

943
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 6: I don't know, right right, he's like, but he's gonna

944
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 6: help us flex our power on the communists. That's the

945
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 6: real big part of this too. Yeah.

946
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: So they went through with the test. It was essentially

947
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: a dirty bomb by today's standards because it like didn't

948
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: succeed that well. I think only there was like twenty

949
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: percent of it that didn't go off, or maybe it

950
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: was only or yeah, yeah, twenty percent of the core

951
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: went off and the rest was, you know, scattered across

952
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: New Mexico and beyond. Literally ruined a batch of film

953
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: at a Kodak factory in Indiana.

954
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 6: That's close by. Based on my rough geography and knowledge

955
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 6: of the United States, so they're in New Mexico and

956
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 6: it blew all the way to end. Oh no, that's

957
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 6: very wow.

958
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, what.

959
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 6: Oh boy, that's twelve hundred and sixty seven miles from

960
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 6: the middle of New Mexico, Indiana. Okay, so huh huh

961
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 6: all in middle America. Yeah right, yeah, yikes. Yeah, and

962
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 6: like that wasn't as far as it went. That was

963
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 6: where it went and ruined a batch of film, like right,

964
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 6: that's how it was still that powerful that far away.

965
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 6: The military collected radioactive fallout, and you might assume that

966
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 6: was in order to document and make decisions better, but

967
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 6: it was totally just based on like legal ass covering.

968
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 6: And for thousands of people who lived near the Trinity site,

969
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 6: they were awoken that morning. So this is the detail,

970
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 6: Like this is the most cinematic, like fucked up depiction

971
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 6: of this entire experiment that I could imagine. So the

972
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 6: thousands of people who lived near the Trinity site are

973
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 6: awoken that morning by a goddamn nuclear blast that a

974
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 6: thing that like has not been possible, doesn't exist as

975
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 6: far as human assumptions about reality, like human understanding has

976
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 6: been caused, right, yeah, yeah.

977
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 1: Most of those people didn't even realize what had happened

978
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: until the news of the bombing of Japan and their

979
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: land crops, livestock, and water were irradiated leading to generations

980
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: of people suffering from various types of cancer. In the

981
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: weeks after the test, they were never advised that their

982
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: land crops, livestock, and water may may have been contaminated. Like,

983
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: it just feels like that's all incredibly cinematic, But we

984
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 1: can't tell the story from the perspective of the people

985
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: and have to do like the Great Man theory of history,

986
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: where everything's controlled by a protagonist who is sitting with

987
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: detached amusement and reading poetry and you know, making massive

988
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: decisions that affect the lives of thousands of people in millions.

989
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, honestly, hales, Have Eyes had a better

990
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: They did a better job of depicting the impacts.

991
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, truly, Have Eyes is a story for the people

992
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 6: about the downwinders from the fucking Trinity blasts. Yeah, and

993
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 6: like again, it is wild too, because to tell that

994
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 6: story you have to reveal a lot about the United

995
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 6: States government, about how commerce works, about the motivations to

996
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 6: just be like, yeah, we're actually don't want to displace

997
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 6: white people. We want to displace like Hispanic and Indigenous people.

998
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 6: We don't care about the poor people downwind And if

999
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 6: they try and come with us with evidence that they've

1000
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 6: actually suffered because the test thing, we're just going to

1001
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 6: fucking turn a blind eye because those people have no

1002
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 6: they they they've never had and never will have any

1003
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 6: kind of financial recourse due to what happened there. So

1004
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 6: that's that's still he'll come work for us. So yeah, exactly,

1005
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 6: it's like, hey, if you want, we'll test your body

1006
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 6: for a couple bucks. Huh. That could be fun.

1007
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1008
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me when my sister and I

1009
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: we went to Vietnam and we went to over there.

1010
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 2: They call it the American War, not the Vietnam War. Yeah,

1011
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: and like the pictures in the museum are so much

1012
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: more horrific than anything you've ever been taught over here.

1013
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 6: It's not a gi with like a sleeveless you know,

1014
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 6: fatigue jacket on with cigarettes in his helmet, singing fortunate son.

1015
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, and that's what it was. We don't

1016
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 6: know about chemical warfare of these other terrible things and

1017
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 6: napalm and shit like that, right right, Yeah, Yeah, that's

1018
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 6: always like that's always it's that's what's funny, is like

1019
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 6: that's what I guess that makes sense because America, like

1020
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 6: the film industry is not always going to really crank

1021
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 6: out those real sort of sober eyed depictions of what

1022
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 6: are like imperial wars end up looking like on the

1023
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 6: other side, it is going to be like, yeah, there's Oppenheimer.

1024
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 6: He did that, and yeah, maybe it was kind of

1025
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 6: like these guys in Germany kicked some butt and then

1026
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 6: they came back, and there's still just kind of like

1027
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 6: we're always we're not left with like a real total

1028
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 6: telling of like the humanity of war. But hey, that's

1029
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 6: for the European filmmakers to do because they have fantastic

1030
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 6: anti war films.

1031
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: Right, is this movie funded, like, I know, like Top

1032
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: Gun has like military funding behind it.

1033
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 7: Do you know if like Oppenheimer does.

1034
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1035
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: I mean unless they usually like it happens because you

1036
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 6: want to use the military's toys and they're like, fine,

1037
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 6: if you want to play with our toys on camera,

1038
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 6: then like we have like a sayance and stuff. So

1039
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 6: I'm not sure with this one, but i'd imagine I'd

1040
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: imagine there was some consulting on some level probably, but yeah,

1041
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 6: I have no idea.

1042
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 7: There's an election coming up, Yeah.

1043
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 6: Right, well, see how this is used for I don't

1044
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 6: know which party will benefit from Oppenheimer. It seems like

1045
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 6: Barbie is definitely being used by the right to beat

1046
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 6: the culture wars to death, but I don't know about

1047
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 6: Oppenheimer yet.

1048
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it is crazy like the people who are

1049
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: called the down Winders, who were like directly affected by this,

1050
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: like the fallout, Like the government won't acknowledge or compensate

1051
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: those families. Yeah, that them specifically, they're just like, yeah, nope,

1052
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: that never, we're not talking about that. Yeah, you can't

1053
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: hear you. And yeah, so they again feel erased by

1054
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: history due to the films glaring emission of their story,

1055
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: and erased by the government. And like Biden last year

1056
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: extended the government's Radiation Exposure Compensation Act, but it still

1057
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: doesn't cover anyone affected by the fallout from the Trinity Test,

1058
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: and some lawmakers are trying to use the movie's popularity

1059
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: as a way to finally change that. But so, like,

1060
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: maybe there's a good thing that could come out of this,

1061
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: but it's it doesn't seem like it's based on sort

1062
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: of the narrative trajectory of the movie, that that would happen.

1063
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 6: Right right right, Yeah, I mean, we see this all

1064
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 6: the time, Like just cancer clusters that pop up near

1065
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 6: like EPA super fun sites or like or how long

1066
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 6: it takes for like the EPA or the government to

1067
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 6: be like, oh, yeah, that is a cluster of cancer

1068
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 6: cases that was caused by something that happened like in

1069
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 6: La like where the jet Propulsion Laboratory is, you know

1070
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 6: where they were like doing a lot of work trying

1071
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 6: to figure out how rockets, how they can make shit

1072
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 6: travel very far to either destroy things or send things

1073
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 6: into space. That contaminated a lot of water like in

1074
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 6: the San Gabriel Valley that meant and there's these had

1075
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 6: cancer clusters that popped up that took a while for

1076
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 6: them to be like, oh, yes, this is okay, so

1077
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 6: we need to put like a full time water treatment

1078
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 6: like everywhere near this place, because yeah, we were too

1079
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 6: busy like playing with chemicals to figure out how to

1080
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 6: kill people better. It just feels like I can't imagine

1081
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 6: for every like the groups of downwindows there are, there's

1082
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 6: you know, there's plenty more. I mean if we think

1083
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 6: of how long it took for people even in Flint,

1084
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 6: Michigan to even be acknowledged.

1085
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so sorry, I'm just googling how far the Propulsional

1086
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: Laboratory is from my house.

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Speaker 1: When what happened.

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Speaker 6: Oh, this is in the sixties. It's fine, it's fine.

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Speaker 6: You're you're, you're, you're completely different water district. So it's

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Speaker 6: okay to people in Pasadena and Lochanyata, flint Ridge and

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Speaker 6: Alta Dina that are typically the ones that.

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Speaker 7: We don't like that anyway, the park is terrible.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they didn't let black people own property till

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Speaker 6: very late in the game, so yeah, yeah, yeah, we

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Speaker 6: have our feelings there.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: Please like in review the show if you like the

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Speaker 1: show means the world of Miles. He he needs your validation.

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Speaker 3: Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Byem