1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Well, Ron and Nanian the valve cover on the Volkswagen 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: td I engine. Can Volkswagen make anything right lately? Donor 3 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor? So the valve cover should only be 4 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: replaced in the event of a leak. B W says 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: that the cover may be reused that the seal is 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: in good condition, but what if it's leaking. Welcome to 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nanian the Car Doctor, 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: call in the garage doors are open, but I am 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five and now 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: he running Hey, start your engines or hope that they can. 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: And if not, stick around for the next hour. 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I'm seeing 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot of calls coming in. Um, I just have 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: to comment on this. I was reading this Saturday paper 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: today and looking at the used car ads. Now, as 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: a kid growing up, I remember the used car ads 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday the weekend, two pages, you know, 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: one of one or two or three or four of everything. 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is a sign of 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the times or we're just there's less used cars, or 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: there's less used cars in the marketplace. You know, there's 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: twenty two used car adds in the Saturday paper today 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: and like you look at that and you say, and 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: I guess maybe it's all done online. Now, maybe that's 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: the catch, but I start reading the used car adds. 45 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: I was doing this during the pause between the hours 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: when we had the news going for six minutes. And 47 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, a Volkswagen Jetta, a v W Jetta two 48 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: thousand two runs good, hundred twelve thousand miles. It runs good, 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: though hundred twelve thousand miles, needs an alternator, breaks in 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: a muffler six hundred bucks. Now my question is, if 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: it needs breaks, and it needs a muffler, and it 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: needs an alternator, how are you gonna road test it? 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: How can you take that car out and go down 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: the road with it? And then you know, six D 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: for another if you lost it, what are you gonna 56 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: do argue the guy down to three? If you give 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: the guy three, might as well scrap it. That's about 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: what it's worth. It's aw right, yeah, virtually worthless. And 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: there you go, you know. But then then right above it, 60 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: there's a two thousand six Toyota Solaris seventy seven thousand miles, 61 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: blue gray leather interior, sunroof, well maintained, one owner, sixty 62 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: seven grand for an eleven year old car. I mean, 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: I get it that they hold their value, but holy cow, 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: and you know what, somebody will give it to him. 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: It's it's really kind of amazing. Um, you know, even 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: the Mercedes right a ninety eight Mercedess four twenty excellent conditioning, 67 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: that white with light gray leather, a hundred and fifty 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: thousand miles. No mechanical issues. Now, I don't know if 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: that means that the left side of the car is 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: missing body wise or that it's just a nice car 71 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: and there's no mechanical issues. But they want thirty six 72 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: dollars firm just I don't know. You look at used 73 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: car edds and you start to wonder, you know, and 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: then you start to realize that when they say, you know, 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: it's it's forty thousand dollars for a new version of 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's now six hundred bucks at forty grand. Really, 77 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. Cars are expensive. I'm not 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna find something else to fix in my next life. Anyway. 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Let's kick the garage doors open, because I know we're 80 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: gonna get busy this hour. I can see the list. 81 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Let's go talk to Paul and Stanton Virginia eighty seven Bronco. 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: To Paul, how are you doing today, sir? What can 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: I go for yes, sir, what's going on? Yes? So, well, 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: few days ago, UM, I arrived at worked and the 85 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: seat belt buckle will not release, and oh that's fun. 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: Well at least cars on the fire and Uh, I 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: pulled all the slack out of the belt out of 88 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the retractor and slid out from underneath it, which was 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: at the easiest thing to do. I'm I'm close to 90 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: six foot and you know, one nine, But I don't 91 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: know why I would do if I was two fifty. Anyway, Yeah, away, 92 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: So I eventually got the thing undone, uh by just 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: jiggling and yanking the heck out it. And UH, for 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of days, I've been using the uh 95 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: stressing it over from the pastor's UH stressing it over 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: to the passengers side, which is, you know, just on 97 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: the other side of the conference. Um will not work. 98 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: But you know, ultimately, obviously I need to pictures, so 99 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna become a problem. Yeah, and there will. There 100 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: would be a problem to come in spection time, which 101 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: is in May. So anyway, your question to UH, is 102 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: there some way of replacing this buckle? And then the 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: other thing is maybe everybody should keep apair of scissors, 104 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: heavy scissors in their console to cut the belt when 105 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: this happens. Whatever, fair comment, Absolutely a fair comment, the 106 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: razor knife or something sharp, because if you're in the car, 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: as you say, you know, if you were heaven forbidden 108 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: in a crash and you couldn't get the seatbelt unbuckled, 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: is that a problem? And yeah, you know, something to 110 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: cut through the harness wouldn't be the worst idea. So 111 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: I I agree with that statement. First of all, we'll 112 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: take the second part first second to repair that first. 113 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: You know in eight seven, obviously I would call Ford, 114 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: but I can almost guarantee you that the Ford deal 115 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: is going to tell you that those parts are no 116 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: longer available. The vehicles thirty years old. So what I'm 117 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: gonna say is a buckle is a buckle. And there 118 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: are enough antique cars out there from this generation, cars 119 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: and trucks, you know somebody's going to provide this under 120 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: a restoration title. I'm sure you know. Have you gone 121 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: out and searched seat belts eighty seven Bronco just to 122 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: see what comes up? No, I I expect ably get one, 123 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: but I was one of the uh you've run into 124 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: this before. Yeah, and I'll do just what I'm what 125 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'll search seat belt for whatever vehicle it is, 126 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: or I'll start talking to the guys that you know 127 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: that are doing classic car seat belt and say, listen, 128 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: I've got an X y Z car. So i'd say 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: I've got any seven Bronco too. Can you cut the 130 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: old buckle off, and you know, restitch me a buckle 131 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: side or or a harnessed side, you know, to match 132 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: in in like color so forth. Now, sometimes i can't 133 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: get the exact color of the belt, so I'll just 134 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: opt out to replace both both sides all the webbing 135 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: in black and and do it like that. It may 136 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: not look exactly perfect, but you know it gets us 137 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: by excuse me, ron the buckle. It actually goes into 138 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: a plastic sleeve which is color coordinated. Right, So it 139 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't mater it to be blue to be orange. It's 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: not gonna make any difference. And you just now just 141 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: seve right now if it's only it's just a retainer 142 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: with with a plastic sleeve on it. Now, if you 143 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: can get the part number out of Ford, if Ford 144 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: still has a part number available for it, and they 145 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: tell you it's obsolete. There is a place in Middle America. 146 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: I think it's Green Auto Sales or Green Forward Parts. 147 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've thought of them, but 148 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: if you were to Google search again, obsolete Ford Parts, 149 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Green Auto Sales is what I'm betting it is. And 150 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: I think they're in Ohio or Indiana, Illinois, somewhere in 151 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: that neck of the woods. They may have that part 152 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: in stock. I'm told that they tend to keep quite 153 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: a very large inventory of obsolete forward parts. And you 154 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: know that that could just solve it for you right there. Um, 155 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, so you know two sources, you know, have 156 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: a junk yard, and wonder when that's going to sail? 157 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: So right exactly, and you might as well get it. 158 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna go through the pain and and and the cost, 159 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: you might as well deal it now. And um, that's 160 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: how I'd approached it. I'd probably try Green first because 161 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: obviously Bolton bolt Out would be the easiest. And then second, 162 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: which one of the seat belt restoration companies for the 163 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: classic car restoration industry would be able to make it, 164 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: And I'm sure somebody could. I've come to the conclusion 165 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: car companies just sell cars. They don't even build cars anymore. 166 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: They just sub it out the vendors around the world, 167 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: and now it's just up to us as repairman just 168 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: to go and find those vendors and deal with them directly. 169 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: And that's really what the game is coming down to. Alright, sir, 170 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: all right, you're very welcome. Paul. Good luck to you 171 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: and yours in good job keeping that car running. I 172 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: know we've been talking about this car. Well, we've been talking. 173 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: I've been talking to Paul and Stanton, Virginia probably the 174 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: better part of seven eight years now, maybe longer. So 175 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm good job keeping a classic going eight five zero 176 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: zero running any of the Car Doctor. We are coming 177 00:09:50,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: back right after this welcome back. We're gonna the card 178 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Doctor zero zero zero. Let's take that pregnant pause. Isn't 179 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: it nice being up here on radio getting to talk 180 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: about cars. What a great country? Absolutely positively. Car Doctor 181 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: Show dot Com is the website, so I can change 182 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: it around and kind of get mellow. Okay, let's get 183 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: busy now. Let's get over and talk to John Harrisonburg, 184 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: Virginia and uh pecking noise? John, What's what's what's a 185 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: pecking noise? Hey? Ron, thanks for taking my call a 186 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: long time listener. Pretty sure what's going on. I've got 187 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: a two thousand three S ten that I z R 188 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: two full point three that I just recently purchased, just 189 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: turned over a hundred thousand miles, So it's jazz broken in. 190 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just broken in. Go ahead, that's that's right. Uh, 191 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: it just recently started. Upon startup, i'll hear a clicking 192 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: that goes away. But upon acceleration, now I'm getting I 193 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: had a mechanic look at it, and he used a 194 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: technique with a stethoscope and pulling plug wires and he 195 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: alternately and he indicated there might be a problem with 196 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: cylinder three and five, either a wrist pin or possible 197 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: push rod, and was wondering what your input might be 198 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: on that. So what he did was he was pulling 199 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: spark plug wires off and listening for a change in load. 200 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: And you know when he heard the changeing load on 201 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: either of those two cylinders, and three and five sit 202 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: right next to each other on that engine, it's it's 203 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: kind of difficult to you know, to pin it down 204 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: tighter than that. In most cases when you took when 205 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: you take the explosion away from the top of the piston. 206 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: The load goes away, so therefore the noise goes away. 207 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: So the conclusion becomes its cylinder related rod wrist pin 208 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: something like that, rod bearing wrist pin something like that. Yeah, 209 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: he could be right. I mean there's no there's no 210 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: simple way around it, John Kay. You know, um, it 211 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: would be it would be a logical diagnosis. You know, 212 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: if this were if this were pull the plug wire off, 213 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: take the load away, and the noise didn't change, I'd 214 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: start thinking about lift or tap and you know, noises 215 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: obviously are tough to diagnose on radio. But from the 216 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: way you're describing it, it sounds like he's he's onto 217 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: something and you know what, what's what's his recommendation for 218 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: a repair? Well, he said, you know this, this problem 219 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: will eventually get worse, So it could be two months 220 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: down the road or two years. So I guess at 221 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: that point i'd be looking at it and remanned motor. 222 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: I would expect, you know, the the only thing you 223 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: know you might try, and it's you know, how scientific 224 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: is it going to be is to change the oil 225 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: and put a real thick viscosity in. Does that slow 226 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: the noise down? And if it did, I would be 227 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: more inclined to think rod bearing versus wrisping. But then 228 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: the argument kind of gets into if the rod bearing went, 229 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: if this, if there was a rod problem, what's the 230 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: bigger issue? Mechanical mechanical parts of an engine don't generally 231 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: don't fail without provocation or reason, all right, And if 232 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: it's got some sort of wrist and failure impending or 233 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: some sort of a rod bearing that's making noise, what 234 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: wasn't done as far as maintenance, So therefore we now 235 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: have to assume what's the rest of the engine. Like, okay, understand, 236 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: the bigger question is how much do you like the vehicle? Well, 237 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a really nice vehicle. And again, uh just 238 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: turned a hundred thousands. The bodies in great shape, the 239 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: interiors in great shape, and as a guy did everything. 240 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm the second owner, and the guy did everything right. 241 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: He took took care of every maintenance. So that's what's 242 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of perplexing me about this. So well, listen, you know, anytime, 243 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'll do maintenance at the shop all day 244 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: long and everybody will say, oh good, it's good. It's 245 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: ready for another twenty thousands. Right, yeah, until something breaks, um, 246 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: you know, because all maintenance does is put the odds 247 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: in your favor, all right, and it just it just 248 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: puts a set of eyes and a train set of 249 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: hands if it's in the right shop, for someone to 250 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: look at it, and you know, make sure that things 251 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: are where they left them. Do you ever, um, do 252 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: you ever have a stereo phail or a TV not 253 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: turned on? You know? Um? You know, And and a 254 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: TV is kind of a great example. How much maintenance 255 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: is there to a TV? It turns on, it turns off. 256 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: You gotta feed of electricity, wipe the screen down once 257 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: in a while. So it's sort of like a car. 258 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: You do the best you can. You give it the 259 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: maintenance you can, um, and then one day, without reason 260 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: or provocation, that's it. You're done. Uh. You know, my 261 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: dead dog that wasn't dead yesterday died today. Sooner or later, 262 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Um, And it can happen. The odds 263 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: are it's not great, but unfortunately that's what happens. Um. 264 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: So you know the real question is do you get 265 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: it fixed or do you get rid of the car? 266 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: And that's a question only you can answer. Well, thank 267 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: you so very much. You're very welcome. Good luck to you. Um, yeah, 268 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: it's a tough spot. That's a tough spot to be in. 269 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: That's you know, how do you what do you do 270 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: with that? And um, you know, we'll say good luck 271 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: to him, Bob and Croydon? Is that Croydon? I'm sorry, 272 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. Yea good sir Ford Ranger. What's going on? Uh? 273 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: About a year ago I started having a symptom where 274 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: I would step on the gas as I'm starting out. 275 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: It would go to about thirty thirty two, and then 276 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the engine would count, it would 277 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: start slipping, the transmission would slip in, the engine would 278 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: stop to rev higher and then cut down and go 279 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: higher and cut down. So I thought, just in my 280 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: own mind, I thought it was a fuel filter. So 281 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: I replaced the fuel filter myself. It seemed to have 282 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: gone away, but then it started coming back, like once 283 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: a month that would happen. So now about a month 284 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: ago it started happening more frequently. I took it to 285 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: my mechanical I trust, and he said, it does sound. 286 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: The sounds like you've got several things going on here. 287 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: One is the slipping transmission too, is the linkage that 288 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: needs adjusting. And three, it sounds like your engine is 289 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: cutting out. That's a three thousand rpm. For some reason, 290 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: I tried to explain to him that this is a 291 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: four lead of V six, and I think it's supposed 292 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: to cut out of three thousand rpm. Maybe I'm wrong 293 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: about that, but so he suggested, let's flush it, drive 294 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: it around for a couple of weeks and see what happens. 295 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: So we flushed it. It seems like it's a little better, 296 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: but it's still happening, all right. So let's let's back 297 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: up a second here, bump Um. When you say it 298 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: cuts out at three thousand rpm, are you talking about 299 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: while you're driving it or free reving it in the bay? Oh? No, no, no. 300 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: While while I'm driving it, I'll go down the road, 301 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: It'll go up to about thirty miles an hour, and 302 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: where it normally would shift, instead of shifting the engine, 303 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: rpm goes up a little, and then it cuts out 304 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: and goes up and cuts out. Okay, it's not supposed 305 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: to die at three thousand rpm. It's no, it's not 306 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: a built in rev limtter, all right, that that doesn't exist, 307 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: all right? If you were trying to free reb this 308 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: sitting there in Neutraller Park in the shop and just 309 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: put your foot to the floor. No modern day engine 310 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: will exceed a preset rpm. Uh, you know there is 311 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: a There isn't what I'll call a cut out or 312 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: um uh you know, a shutdown based on engine and load, 313 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: and you know they do that for a variety of reasons. 314 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's normal. But driving the vehicle, you know, listen, 315 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: you were to stop sign and you had to accelerate 316 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: out onto the road and you had to put your 317 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: foot into the headlight. Is it going to normally go 318 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: over three thousand rpm? Probably? Right? So you know why 319 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: isn't it doing it? It's you know, when Ron wants 320 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: to get home in a hurry and he's in the 321 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: plow truck, if he puts his foot in the headlight, 322 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: it'll pull fifty rpm. I could step on the gas 323 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: like right away, real hard and it'll go. But when 324 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: it gets to around thirty it seems like the transmission 325 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: slipping in. Well what what rpm is the engine at? Though? 326 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: When it starts to do that, do you have do 327 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: you have attack in the truck? Yeah, it'll go up 328 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: to right around three thousand, okay, and if you if 329 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: you try to shift beyond that, does the engine rpm 330 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: increase or just it's held off by the trans shifting? Uh, 331 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: you mean when I when I try to change the 332 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: shift there, what I'll do is I'll bring it down 333 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: to second gear so I can keep going. I'll tell 334 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: you what, pop. Stay on the line. Let's finish this 335 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: on the other side of this commercial break. I'm running 336 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: needing of the car doctor. We're back right after this. 337 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Don't go right, welcome back. We don't needing the car doctor. 338 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Phone numbers eight five zero zero zero. Give us a call, 339 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: leave him, I said, if we're not here, and we 340 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: will call you back and get you in que and 341 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: don't forget. If you're podcasting, please click subscribe if you 342 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: have that opportunity, depending upon your podcast player. Let's get 343 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: back to Bob in Ryden, New Hampshire. Bob, you're there, Yeah, 344 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm here, So let me ask you the question this way. 345 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: And Bob is having troubles with his trouble with his 346 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: transmission in the way that it shifts, and maybe the 347 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: engine too. For those of you just tuning in, what 348 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: if you manually operate the transposition. You know, if you 349 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: start out put to put the automatic trans and first drive, 350 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: it probably gonna bring it up to about seventeen eighteen 351 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: miles an hour. Manually put it into second and then 352 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: so on third and so on up through the gear select. 353 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: Have you tried that? Does the vehicle operate normally at 354 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: that point? I did try that once and yes, it 355 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: does operate normally. But what I found I could also 356 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: do run is when this happens, like it around thirty, 357 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: I'll shift down to second gear, bring it up to 358 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: around forty, and then push it back up into drive 359 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: and I'm good. Okay. And when you're doing that as 360 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: engine rpm going over three thousand rpm, um it varies. 361 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, well, it's it's got either either it 362 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: does or it doesn't. Does it go? No, it doesn't 363 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: because I can go it at that point, I'm doing 364 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: six sixty five and it's only doing two thousand r 365 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: p M okay. So the first thing you've got to 366 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: establish is is there something wrong with the engine, Because 367 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: if the engine has a problem, some sort of performance issue, 368 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: it's going to affects trans operation. The dog the dog, 369 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: the dog wags the tail, the tail doesn't wag the dog. 370 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: So first things first, we want to look at that. 371 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: You know, I failed to ask check engine light on? 372 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: Has anybody scanned this for any fault codes? And I 373 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: just had an inspection and the task that fault codes. 374 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: So then the next thing I would want to know. 375 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: And I like to do this on problem vehicles. I 376 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: always like the baseline a problem vehicle battery terminals clean 377 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: and tight. I always I always load test the battery. 378 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I always check the charging system, and I will always 379 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: take it for a ride. Use in a generic O 380 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: B D two scan tool, looking at fuel trim and 381 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: watching oxygen sensor values. It's just while I'm driving. Oh okay, 382 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: why not should I recommend that to my mechanic ask them, Yeah, 383 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, I like watching fuel trim. 384 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: Fuel trim tells me a lot fuel trim is to 385 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: stick out your tongue and say, oh, moment, obviously you've 386 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: got to be a little cautious. You're driving on the road, 387 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: and you know, I always wonder what I'm gonna get 388 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: the ticket for distracted driving looking at a scan tool. 389 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: It's not my phone, but I guess they haven't. They 390 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: haven't made looking at a scan tool illegal yet. Um 391 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: so I'm always very cautious how I do it and 392 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: where I do it, and I try to pick a 393 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: back road that's kind of quiet. So that being said, yeah, 394 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: I want to look at fuel trim. I wanna you know, 395 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: where are the numbers full? If this is a mass 396 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: airflow sensor car, which this is, I'd like to take 397 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: it out from a twenty mile a kick, put my 398 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: foot in the headlight. I should see calculated load value 399 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: exceed eighty five. Heck, it should hit a hundred percent. 400 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: That tells me the engine's got good volumetric efficiency. It's 401 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: got good you know, it can suck in and if 402 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: it can't, then I'm gonna solve that problem first. And 403 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: then I'm going to talk about transmission because connected sure 404 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: absolutely listen. You ever have a car with a bad 405 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: catalytic converter? Yeah, okay, go drive a car. You remember 406 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills cop with the banana, with the banana and 407 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: the tailpipe, that Fairmont, that Zephyr didn't make it around 408 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: the block, all right, it didn't. They weren't able to 409 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: make the youth turn and follow Eddie Murphy. Uh, you 410 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: know a Beverley will sure boulevard exactly, so, so you 411 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: know it's it's if the engine can't breathe, it's not 412 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna run and it's not going to allow the trans 413 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: to shift and be driven. So and then at that point, 414 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: once you establish if there's anything wrong with the engine, 415 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: repair that and if not, then I'd start considering the trans. 416 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: Do you have a problem. These were problematic units in 417 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: this particular generation Ranger, anything from valve bodies to um uh, 418 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: the overdrive piston too, you know, a couple of things. 419 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: So one step at a time. Your mechanics not wrong. 420 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: You gotta break this down at the bite sized pieces 421 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: and take eat the sandwich one one, one piece at 422 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: a time, all right. So they were known issues, yeah, absolutely. 423 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: The automatics, yeah they weren't. They had they had their problems. 424 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: So I only got seventy us. Listen, I've seen him. 425 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: I've seen him at forty Okay. You know, I always 426 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: remember this new year old mileage or otherwise. The best 427 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: car in the world can be disabled by something mechanical 428 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: in terms of a failure or a simple nail in 429 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: the middle of the road. So until until you solve 430 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: the problem, never assume and never overlook the simplest thing. Well, 431 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I'll suggest that to the mechanic about taking a short 432 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: ride and putting a scan on it. And it was 433 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: what I want to I want to look at fuel trim. 434 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: I want to look at long and short term fuel trim, 435 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: and I want to look and see what calculated flow 436 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: value calculated load is on a road. All right, and 437 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: hopefully he's familiar with those terms. Right. He did suggest 438 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: to me that it could be spot plug wise too. Well, 439 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: I would before I start jumping it would have, could have, 440 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: should have I'd start I'd start spending some time for 441 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: a diagnosis, load trim, calculated load value and and fuel 442 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: trim fuel. Okay, one more question. If I should have 443 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: to get a transfer, you think it's worth put? He said, 444 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: He'll go to a salad jodad and try to find one. 445 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: Do you think it would be worth it for the 446 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: truck I put a new one in it? Yeah? Well, 447 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Seventy thousand miles, seventy five 448 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: thousand miles, what kind of shapes the rest of the 449 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: truck in? Everything else seems to be got? I mean, 450 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: it's beat up. So let's so let's let's let's look 451 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: at it like this. Let's be a little logical, all right. 452 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: If the rest of the truck is good and rust 453 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: and corrosion in the roads of New Hampshire and the 454 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: salt and they haven't killed it yet. Let's say the 455 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: rest of the truck is intact and you've you've done 456 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: an evaluation of it. Are you gonna go to a 457 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: salad yard and pull a trans out of a twelve 458 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: year old vehicle with known problem ms that I just 459 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: described to you and put the problem back in so 460 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: ten thousand miles later it can happen, or you're gonna 461 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: have it overhauled by a competent trans shop that they're 462 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: going to do all the correct updates and this way 463 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: you get anywhere from four to six years out of 464 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: the transmission with proper care and kindness. Oh so you're 465 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: saying it's not a good idea to go to a salvage, 466 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: Yet I wouldn't. Why would you put what if if 467 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: this was a bad run of transmissions as I just described, 468 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: and you're gonna go out and buy another one and 469 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: stick it back on the truck, At what point does 470 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: that problem decide to come out? Especially since they had 471 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: problems with that particular year. Well everything, but also look 472 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: at the age, Bob, it's twelve years old. You can't 473 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: assume that the transit, you know, the vehicle that that 474 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: trans comes out of in the salvage yards, got seventy 475 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: five thou miles on it. A more realistic miles would 476 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: be a hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand miles. Wow. 477 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: So if I went to a bond, a really good 478 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: transmission shop ballpark, what do you think it's gonna ask 479 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: me to have that rebuilt in New Jersey dollars? And 480 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: I have to do it that way because I know 481 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: what pricing is here in North Jersey, and I know 482 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: it varies around the country. It's got to be three grand. 483 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Without even breathing hard, seriously, yeah, it's you know it's 484 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: but but you want me to cure you of this, 485 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: I guarantee I can cure you of this real easy, 486 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: go price a new car. Well that's what my wife 487 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: and Dota keeps telling me. Go get a new truck, 488 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: Get a new truck. Tell them to go with you 489 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: and let them sign the check first. Everybody wants right, 490 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: let everybody help, Okay, So I actually got me thinking 491 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: about it though. Can I ask you, if I do 492 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: get a new truck, can you recommend one that don't 493 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: have any issues. I'll tell you what. When you decide 494 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: to do that, you call me back. We'll have that conversation. Okay, 495 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: all right, sir? All right, all right, I'll do you 496 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: think it would hurt anything if I just kept doing 497 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: writing it the way it is? Sooner or later it's 498 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: gonna break, Bob, all right, So sooner or later it's 499 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: gonna break, and it's gonna become an issue. So go 500 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: make a decision and then we'll go from there. Zero. 501 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm coming back right after this. Hey, welcome back running 502 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: the end of the car Doctor. Let's real quick get 503 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: into it at zero nine zero. Let's get over and 504 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: talk to Stu and Nashua, New Hampshire. Stu, Welcome to 505 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, How can I help? Good afternoon? 506 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: Can you hear me? All right? You had a two 507 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: two thousand, four f one Heritage four point to motor automatic. 508 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: Um My check engine light has come on again. They 509 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: had this thing fixed supposedly a year or two ago, 510 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: and I guess let's see what people say. It's it's 511 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: running lean. Shows on me when they do the skin 512 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: shows the number two cells there running lean? Okay, what 513 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: do they do to what do they do to it? 514 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: A year ago they believe they put some taking the 515 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: gasket down with our tv um let me told me 516 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: this as a plast a gasket which is not really 517 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: yet holding up, so to speak. You can't tighten it 518 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: down too much in over crack. Okay, high mileage on 519 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: this stiff uh, I got a hundred and seventy eight, 520 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: but I put a new transmission in it. I'm just 521 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: worried about the engine. So you know, when I start 522 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: to see this is the four point two lead V 523 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: six correct? Right? When when I start to see these 524 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: with lean fuel trim faults? And when you started call 525 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: does it run a little rough? Does it give you 526 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: any you know, it's not really a smooth idol that 527 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: kind of bucks. And it's just setting a lean fault. Okay. 528 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: If it's just setting a lean fault with no misfire reported, 529 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: then then we've got to start to track down the 530 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: cause of the lean condition, all right. And you know 531 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking for vacuum leaks. We're gonna be 532 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: looking for lines that fell off. We're gonna be looking 533 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: for leaks at the intake um using a bottle of 534 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: propane and and and sniffing around would be a grand 535 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: and glorious thing at this point, you know, looking looking 536 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: at fuel trim while I'm driving down the road. No brainer. 537 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely positively got to be part of it. What's what's 538 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that's common with these and what 539 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: a lot of guys don't try to address or realizes 540 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: this has internal e g R ports under the intake 541 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: planum and these will clog. And what they will do 542 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: is they will start to clog in such a way 543 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: that when the e g R operates, it will it 544 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: won't be able to come out that hole, so it 545 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: will back up and come out one of the other 546 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: holes and dilute the fuel charge going into that particular cylinder. 547 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: So the only way to fix that is you're gonna 548 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: do one of two things. You're either gonna try and 549 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: do some carbon cleaning and you know, maybe a can 550 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: of barriman B twelve kem tool uh something in the 551 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: tank to help cut down carbon deposits um, you know, 552 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: might help him do the trick. You can find more 553 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: barriman products dot Com, or they're gonna have to physically 554 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: all the intake manifold back off and look for the 555 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 1: e g R ports and make sure not only are 556 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: the e g R ports under the intake planum clean, 557 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: but also make sure that the e g R passage 558 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: at the front of the engine has good flow as well, 559 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: so it's good even equal distribution. Yeah, all right, but 560 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to So basically you're saying, unless the 561 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: carbon thing works to pull it back apart, I've I've 562 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: I've yet to see a four two V six that 563 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: doesn't clog e g R ports. But like the sun's 564 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna come up tomorrow, just you know it's it's And 565 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: if if they had to use our TV silicone on that, 566 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: on that plastic bodied gasket, something's wrong either either they're 567 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: either they're using the wrong gasket. They're wrong and they 568 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: don't understand what a torque wrench is, the manifolds warped 569 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: or the illuminum part of the intake manifold is bad. 570 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: Something's wrong. That's a that manifold is a get a 571 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: new gasket. It's got an the last stometer, rubber beat 572 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: on it clean both services put it together put a 573 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: drop of oil on the threads of the bolts, sneak 574 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: it down there. You can't get in there because it's 575 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: a this is this is a well, this is a truck, 576 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: so it's not terrible to do. But if this was 577 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: a van, this has run everything up by hand, and 578 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: I think it's something like thirty six inch pounds or 579 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: forty pounds. It's some real lightload. Just put it up 580 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: in a little more and you're done. Um. I've never 581 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: had to put our TV on a plastic body gasket 582 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: for GM, Chrysler or whatever. If I if I see it, 583 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: somebody's doing something wrong and they're trying to fix a 584 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: problem that they're ignoring by using dumb, dumb or magic tape. Yeah, 585 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: so what's so? Uh? Any idea? What kind of money 586 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: we're talking to do that? You know? Which is it? 587 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: Is it the manifold? Is it the gasket? Is the 588 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: is it the problem with the mechanic? Is it the 589 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: you know? Um, here's here's an example where spending a 590 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: couple of hundred dollars on a real diagnosis rather rather 591 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: than playing poke and hope really gives you great dividends 592 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: and returns. Best answer, Yeah, I had a pretty good 593 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: guy that did the original Thank him. That's what he 594 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: at them out and that's his thing, diagnostics, right, so 595 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: you know it held on for for a while. Now, 596 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: it's not it's not anything caused by crappy gas or anything. Right, well, 597 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: as it ages, the quality of the gas definitely has 598 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: an effect on it. Sure because if it's carbon deposits, 599 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: carbon deposits start accumulating the minute after they put the 600 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: intake back together, and it took a year or a 601 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: year and a half forth for it for it to 602 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: happen all over again. So I would probably try the 603 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: can of Barriman Barriman Products dot Com for more information, 604 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: and if that doesn't do it for you, then I 605 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: would by all means get a diagnosis and be prepared 606 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: when that intake comes apart mentioned to them. If there's 607 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: e g R ports in this, and I haven't seen 608 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: a four two that doesn't have it, make sure those 609 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: e g R ports are clean. Otherwise this problem is 610 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: going to continue to go over on a repetitive basis. 611 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, certain let me know if you 612 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: need more. I am here for you. Stew eight zero 613 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I'm back right after this welcome back. 614 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: We're the car doctor here. Boy, that was where AL 615 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: was at the end of two hours of talk radio, 616 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: Like you know, was it a time warp. I didn't 617 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: even get to talk about some of the next week. 618 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Next week we're gonna talk about timing belts. I just 619 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: want to let you know. We're gonna talk about timing 620 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: belts on Sue Bruise and um, how one dealer sort 621 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: of you know, it was like fleece little old ladies 622 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: pension fund. It was a conversation about that. And we're 623 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about an observation. My friend 624 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: David Motor Works West, the BMW guru here in North Jersey, 625 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: had some interesting comments about how to tell if your 626 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: car is in a good shop or a bad shop, 627 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: And um, we were having a conversation the other day 628 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about that. So but right now, 629 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: let's get over to Dan marble Head and marble Head Mass. 630 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: I guess that is oh seven one fifty in a 631 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: parking break issue. Dan. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 632 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: How can I help? Thanks for I appreciate it. What 633 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: I've got is a two thousand, seven four one fifty 634 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: The parking break you know, is inside the disks the drum. 635 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: I took everything apart six it was all frozen up, 636 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: replaced everything, and boy it works great going in reverse, right, 637 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: So it holds the truck that way, but it doesn't 638 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: do much going forward. So I want to know before 639 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: I have to pull everything off again, if you've got 640 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: an idea for me, Well, yeah, I'm gonna tell you 641 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: that everything off again because you've got something. But either 642 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: something's backwards or it's not adjusted properly. This is a 643 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: camp pivot lever system. Right where the cable comes down 644 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: and there's a there's a camp pivot that pushes the 645 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: shoes forward after it locks one against the inside of 646 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: the drum, and then the other one gets pushed forward. 647 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: It's a camp pivot. The camp pivots work freely and 648 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: move a well. In fact, that was the problem was 649 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: that they were frozen up. So you have took those off, 650 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, clean them up, preased them up. Um, so 651 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: you think it's there, So chances are I probably locked 652 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: something in. I mean, I guess what you could tell 653 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: me is so is it that one shoes doing the 654 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: job in reverse and one shoes doing the job forward. 655 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: You know what happens is it's like any other servo 656 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: drum brake system. Listen. This used to happen on older 657 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: cars with drum brakes all the time. The more common mistake, 658 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: or more common failure was um, you would make the mistake, 659 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: not you, but the person doing the job. There was 660 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: a primary and a secondary brake shoe, and the shoes 661 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: were reversed and I used to see it then, But 662 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: basically one shoe locks against one side. When it locks 663 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: against the one side of the drum, it then pushes 664 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: the other one out to lock it against the other 665 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: side of the drum, there by locking the drum. Both 666 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: shoes should lock against the drum. If they don't, there's 667 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: a fault in the way they're being applied. Take a 668 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: look and give me a call. Let me know. Good 669 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See it