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Speaker 1: All right, it's week six, Rams and Ravens and Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Between the Horns, presented by your Southern

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Speaker 1: California Tell you to dealers.

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Speaker 2: I'm JB.

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Speaker 1: Long with Super Bowl champion DeMarco farr and making his

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Speaker 1: first appearance. I think in the regular season on this

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Speaker 1: show to Jackson, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Number two?

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Speaker 1: You could have in the program.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it is because I noticed the shoes before. This

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Speaker 2: is a second see come on, No, all right, I

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Speaker 2: missed you. Let's go on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how's your MANI by guys, how is your weekend away?

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Speaker 2: Good? I mean hard? Because you lost the last time out?

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for Sunday so you can, you know, go

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Speaker 2: back and get this bad taste out of your mouth.

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Speaker 2: But you know, not bad. Watching the tape, going back

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Speaker 2: through it again, there's a lot of good stuff on there.

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Speaker 2: I know you didn't get the result you wanted, and

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Speaker 2: I know you lost to your most hated rival, but

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Speaker 2: you know, when you're breaking stuff down, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of positive This team is getting better in certain areas.

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Speaker 3: I definitely had a hard time adhering to the twenty

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Speaker 3: four hour rule, I'll say, but it made it easier

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Speaker 3: having a friend in town visiting and doing some stuff

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Speaker 3: with that group over the weekend. So it's good.

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Speaker 1: I think, what's it a salve maybe to have Seattle

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Speaker 1: and Arizona implode late at home and kind of give

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Speaker 1: you a couple back. It's interesting that the whole division

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Speaker 1: goes on the road this week. The Rams are the

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Speaker 1: only NFC West favorite away from home. So here's hoping

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Speaker 1: that a victory Monday, if it's in store for the Rams,

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Speaker 1: can turn things around pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: Petty, If I lose, I want everyone else to lose

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Speaker 2: to it makes me feel better. What's that?

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Speaker 3: What's that saying about misery loving company?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, well there you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, Rams got some Yeah. In terms of own it,

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Speaker 1: fix it, where should we start? Is it ball security?

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Speaker 1: Is it kicking lows? You pick your lane and tell

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Speaker 1: us how the Rams are finally going to get right

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Speaker 1: in these areas that you know our fans have been

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Speaker 1: all over them. Yeah, as real source spots, and they've

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Speaker 1: cost LA some games.

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Speaker 2: I would go kicking game. That's the easiest thing to fix.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know Kyron and Blake Korum putting the

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Speaker 2: ball on the ground, You're going to have to give

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Speaker 2: them carries. We're all gonna hold their breath. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to dig yourself out of that hole. That's one

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Speaker 2: thing you can't replace those two guys. Kyron will take

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Speaker 2: carries and so will Blake Krum. The kicking game, that's

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Speaker 2: something that should be fixed. That shouldn't be an issue

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Speaker 2: at this point. Like you said, week six and we're

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Speaker 2: still talking about this. This is stuff you deal with

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Speaker 2: in preseason going into week one. It should not be

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Speaker 2: an issue now. So yeah, that to me is number one.

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Speaker 2: You have to fix what's going on there first, because

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you're good on defense, it doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter if you have an all pro quarterback. If you're

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Speaker 2: not good there in the third phase, you're gonna lose

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Speaker 2: football games or put your win in jeopardy weekend and weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three of the last four games have featured failures

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Speaker 1: in that dimension. They got out of Tennessee with the win,

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Speaker 1: but it's not unrealistic to say, and there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: other things that have gone wrong for the Rams and

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Speaker 1: their two losses, but it's not unrealistic to say that

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Speaker 1: if either one of two kicking operations in Philadelphia or

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Speaker 1: home at so if I stadium go the other go

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Speaker 1: between the pipes. This team is the last undefeated team

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree completely with DeMarco. I mean, when Sean

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Speaker 3: McVay says that it's not just one thing with the

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Speaker 3: kicking game that's the problem or the sore spot that

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Speaker 3: to me is the priority or the greater cause for concern.

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Speaker 3: I mean, ball security issues, protect the ball better, concentrate better.

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Speaker 3: But with you know, the operation having multiple kicking operation

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this makes it better or worse,

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Speaker 1: but like you guys probably did, I revisited the twenty

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Speaker 1: I think the punting operation and punt covers in a

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Speaker 1: much better spot. Right with Evan Evans having lost that

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Speaker 1: there's a block in the back, but that's okay, it's

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Speaker 1: and he actually made one to force overtime, but I

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Speaker 1: don't want to revisit those times in terms of the

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Speaker 1: I think Cardi is the guy. He's done a lot

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Speaker 1: see how much squib kicking he does or if the

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Speaker 1: Rams make a change there, because it seems like there's

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Speaker 1: some true to the fact that maybe his kickoffs are

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Speaker 2: Wonder that's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it was interesting because you know, I think

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Speaker 3: it was you asking Coach about on the Coach McVay

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Speaker 3: show McAfee. Yeah, on behalf of McAfee, who was speculating

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Speaker 3: that maybe the you know, the squib kicks and the

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Speaker 3: Cardi and his kicks on field goals, and you know,

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Speaker 3: he said, you know, that's a fair, you know, fair

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Speaker 3: fair observation to make.

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Speaker 3: Do wonder about that too, because Chase Blackburn last time

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Speaker 3: he spoke to the media, he said that, you know,

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Speaker 3: mechanically they're they were trying to make it so that

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Speaker 3: there was you know, little difference, or to not have

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Speaker 3: it as much of an impact, but you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: that hasn't necessarily been the case, or it's gone in

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Speaker 3: a direction that maybe they didn't expect in terms of

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Speaker 3: how those mechanics have you know, impacted that motion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with the exception of one, the one that didn't

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Speaker 2: make it to the green zone, drop zone, whatever it

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Speaker 2: is where you have to kick it, those knuckleballs have

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Speaker 2: been wildly effective. You just cannot hit those, catch those

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Speaker 2: So I hope one doesn't affect the other, because that

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Speaker 1: Two personnel questions, one on offense, one on defense. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Steve knows the answer. That's kind of his role around

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Speaker 1: here left guard. I think we've all kind of been

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Speaker 1: waiting for Steve Avola to come back and take his

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Speaker 1: know where the Rams are heading going to Baltimore at

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What Sean McVay has said is that, you know, if

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Speaker 3: Steve practices and plays the way he expects throughout this week,

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Speaker 3: then he will earn his starting job back. I do

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Speaker 3: give McVeigh credit for saying that or going with continuity,

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Speaker 3: I should say in terms of you know, if you

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Speaker 3: practice what you preach with competition and you know you're

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Speaker 3: doing what you think is best for the team, then

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Speaker 3: with the way Dtitch has been playing, then that's that's

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Speaker 3: what you're sticking with. But you know, at least from

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Speaker 3: what I've seen in just you know, the the one

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Speaker 3: as of recording this, like it seemed it seems to be,

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Speaker 3: you know, trending in that direction. But again, there's still

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Speaker 3: a couple more practices to go, and like McVeigh said,

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Speaker 3: it's on you know, Steve to ultimately show.

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Speaker 2: That I've labeled Detach the bouncer. He looks like a

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Speaker 2: bouncer and that's how he plays. He just runs people

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Speaker 2: up out of there. It's so funny. I told people

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Speaker 2: this before he when I played, I hated guards that

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Speaker 2: look like him, the short, stocky guys, because low man

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Speaker 2: wins and he's already down here. It's kind of like

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Speaker 2: pun a forward playing guard. It's the same thing. It

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Speaker 2: drives you nuts, it drives everybody nuts. But Steve has girth.

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Speaker 2: Steve is a big dude. You don't want Steve leaning

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Speaker 2: on you for four quarters. That's why he's here. So

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm glad did has played his butt off.

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Speaker 2: Go the continuity, but it is Thieve's job. Give him

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Speaker 2: a chance to win it back.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to defense next. And if I had told

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Speaker 1: you leaving Sofi Stadium a last Thursday night that Omar

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Speaker 1: Spates had a high ankle and might be missing some time,

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Speaker 1: would you believe that? Didn't see any sign of that.

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Speaker 2: He played through it, watched every single sign, but I

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Speaker 2: heard it was you. I was reading you. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Omar Spates is heard. Wait a minute, let me go

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Speaker 2: back and check the tape, went through all. I think

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Speaker 2: he had like thirty seven to play thirty eight? Whatever

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Speaker 2: was every single snap, even his last one. It looks

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Speaker 2: like Omar Spates. When did he hurt himself? Did he

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Speaker 2: slip getting off the bus, getting in a car? I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, the dude is he's getting better

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Speaker 2: and he's playing tough. You're not going to be one

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Speaker 1: So if we were to crowdsource this one, Shan Doolac

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Speaker 1: would make his Rams defensive debut in Baltimore next to

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Speaker 1: Nate Lamman. Is that the direction you think the Rams go?

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Speaker 1: Or how do they manage this?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I don't think you were avoid I don't think

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Speaker 2: the Rams, the coaching staff, the brain trust. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they're avoiding Troy Reader. That's not what they're that's

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Speaker 2: base it on preseason how he played, if you're just

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Speaker 2: going for a straight replacement, Nate Lanman is the mic,

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Speaker 2: he calls the plays. Omar Spates is the weak sidebacker.

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Speaker 2: He's the free hitter the week, the whip, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Then your direct backup would be fifty six. And that's

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Speaker 2: exactly how he played. So if he played anything like

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Speaker 2: drop off. He will be just as active as Omar

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Speaker 2: Spates getting to the football.

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Speaker 1: There's also the option of promoting someone from the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what the rest of this week holds. Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay has left that door open a couple of times too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, he expressed confidence in Troy Reader and Sean Dolac

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Speaker 3: as options there, and like you mentioned, he said they've

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Speaker 3: also got some candidates on the practice squad. But it

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Speaker 3: was interesting I did go back and read Chris Shule's

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Speaker 3: how did essentially like what did Dolac do to make

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Speaker 3: this team or how to hear and he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: contribution on special teams, but also like they would have

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Speaker 3: no hesitation to put him out there on defense if

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Speaker 3: they really needed to. To this point they haven't. But

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Speaker 3: that speaks to his readiness and preparedness and his strength

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Speaker 3: as a possible candidate to go out there if Spates

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Speaker 1: Look the person up for the Ravens and their schematic

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Speaker 1: probably plays heavily into the Rams. Thinking again, as of

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Speaker 1: this moment, I think we all agree Lamar is trending

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Speaker 1: for Baltimore. So you could almost get him two weeks

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Speaker 1: for the price of one. Cooper Rush experienced not great

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Speaker 1: last week. Maybe they go back to Stoop Puntley. We'll see,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think how much easier it is to

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Speaker 2: If you're going on the road to the AFC's North

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Speaker 2: Dude, he is Look it's too late. He is a superstar.

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Speaker 2: Puka Nakua is a bona fide superstar in the National

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Speaker 1: And related, I think part of what's been so infuriating

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Speaker 2: This is crazy for me. Okay, So Stafford is on

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Speaker 2: But I think he can actually play better than what

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Speaker 1: You're right, DeVante Adams, despite all the good he's done

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Speaker 2: What's that mean? That means bingo.

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Speaker 1: More isn't always better, right, Like having more options is

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Speaker 2: Like you're saying, yes, I think he's all the way back,

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Speaker 1: Way to pay that off. I don't think Tell me

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Speaker 2: I think the Niners played good ball.

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Speaker 2: I hope not. I'm with you. I thought San Francisco

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Speaker 1: They were punishing, they were absolutely.

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Speaker 1: in the league for multiple years now they're the consensus worst.

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Speaker 1: You walk in there feeling like you should score forty.

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Speaker 1: But that's a dangerous place to be. That's tough to

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Speaker 2: It is. I feel good about my chances, don't you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you beat a team that just you know,

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Speaker 2: kick the you know what out of them, you feel

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Speaker 2: good about your chances.

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Speaker 1: But that's not how this game works.

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Speaker 2: You have to boil it down. You have to play

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Speaker 2: our best game, and we have to bring it to

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Speaker 2: Baltimore first. And then if they do, sure, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: agree with you. If you beat them, then you should

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Speaker 2: beat them as bad. But it doesn't work that way

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And then the Ram's gonna stay in Baltimore practice at

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Speaker 1: Camden Yards, I read and get their work in for

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Speaker 1: London and Jacksonville beyond. We mentioned this earlier, but it

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Speaker 1: might be worth visiting a little bit more closely.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: All four NFC West teams on the road San Francisco

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Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay, Seattle at Jacksonville, Arizona at Indy. The

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Speaker 1: Rams competition Roade Dogs this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big Baker fan. I'm even more a Baker fan,

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Speaker 2: right now take it to them who Seattle have again.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jacksonville, Man, look, Jacksonville is no joke. Jacksonville might

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Speaker 2: be for real. Way to go, Liam Cohen, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, I hope uh that the rest of the

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Speaker 2: with the only win in the division this weekend. That'd

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Speaker 2: be nice.

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Speaker 1: Are there closing thoughts keys of victory, anything that we

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Speaker 1: didn't get to that you want to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you get out.

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Speaker 2: Uh just remember, man, I mean like Kyron Williams is

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Speaker 2: one of your best players, period, end of story. And

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Speaker 2: if we could fix it, if he could fix it,

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Speaker 2: if they could fix it, they would. But there's no

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Speaker 2: way he's not gonna take another Like, you can't bench

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Speaker 2: the guy. He's one. He's your starting tailback. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to give him carries. He's gonna have to be better.

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Speaker 2: I think he knows that. But just the one thing

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Speaker 2: is you've got to fix what's ailing you in the

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Speaker 2: third phase in the kicking game. That should be the

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Speaker 2: first thing that was fixed. So maybe that's gone on

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Speaker 2: a little bit too long. So we'll see. Hopefully that

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Speaker 2: gets fixed in Baltimore. That's always tricky down there, especially

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Speaker 2: on special teams. So we'll see. It's a great test.

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Speaker 1: You remember how uh Sean may Fake called the first

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Speaker 1: drive of the last trip to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Pow right down the middle. Yes, gut punch, gut punch,

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Speaker 2: gut punch. Yes.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they don't run it back this week.

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Speaker 2: Like to see a replay? Why not? Interesting?

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Speaker 3: I think too, that would go a long way with

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Speaker 3: avoiding some of the self inflicted mistakes that cost them

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Speaker 3: last week and being able to control the time of

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Speaker 3: possession better. That's something that you know, I'm looking forward

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Speaker 3: to seeing how it plays out this week. I think

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Speaker 3: the way the forty nine ers controlled the time possession

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Speaker 3: last week had a lot to do with making the

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Speaker 3: margins so thin in terms of again some of those

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Speaker 3: you know, instances where there were those self inflicted mistakes,

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Speaker 3: and so you avoid those and you do a better

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Speaker 3: job of controlling time and possession, I think you can

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Speaker 3: you reach the potential of like you were talking about,

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Speaker 3: a game like the Texans had last week against Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you called back to that

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Speaker 1: that time of possession, which I'm of the mind that

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Speaker 1: typically it's an overrated football stat. But when you're playing

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, we've seen that before. We know how consequential

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Speaker 1: that is. And I almost take consolation from that. And

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Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that the Rams could have and should have

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Speaker 1: won that game even though it started the way it did,

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Speaker 1: because there were previous iterations of this team and of

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Speaker 1: that rivalry. Where you start a game like that against

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco, it's over. You're onto the

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Free score loss. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That that's not how Thursday Night football went. It didn't

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Speaker 1: finish the way we would have liked, but that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting callback by used to. I'm gonna feel better about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: For senior staff writers Stu Jackson, who may or may

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Speaker 1: not have made his first appearance this season, check We'll

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Speaker 1: check Pro Football Reference. But either way, come back soon

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Speaker 1: and come back off. And yes, the Marco far who's

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Speaker 1: here every week. I'm JB. Long, Wishing you a good

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Speaker 1: rest of your week, looking forward to back to back

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Speaker 1: road trips, first of Baltimore, then to London. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you next time between the Horns because then by

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