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Speaker 2: college football season. Today, we'll welcome in front of the

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Speaker 2: program Kyle Krabs, who has a new gig. He's the

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Speaker 2: new draft analyst over at the thirty thirteen. Kyle, it's

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Speaker 2: good to talk to you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, hope. Everybody is enjoying the football season,

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Speaker 3: which crazily enough is just spell halfway over. So we're

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Speaker 3: trying to enjoin as much as we can over here

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Speaker 3: at least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys are also trying to enjoy the

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Speaker 2: college football season. So Kyle, let's start with you guests,

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Speaker 2: get the lead us off here and he just thoughts

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Speaker 2: that come to mind from the college football weekend that

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Speaker 2: was this past weekend.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I was pretty impressed with how we're gonna looked

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Speaker 3: matchup against a pretty solid Illinois team. I thought there

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Speaker 3: were players on both sides of the ball for Oregon

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Speaker 3: that made nice statements to kind of firm themselves. Organ's

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Speaker 3: got a pretty deep wide receiver room, but Derek Carmon

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Speaker 3: the defensive tackle, is kind of the buzzy name right now,

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Speaker 3: at least for Oregon up front, and this disruptive nature

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Speaker 3: that he has, I think is a healthy addition to

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Speaker 3: the defensive line group for this year's class. So that's

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Speaker 3: a storyline that I'll continue watching forward, watching that number

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Speaker 1: You know, Tony, we even talked a ton about Oregon

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: I don't think who are some of the guys that

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Speaker 4: I think Gavin Stewart, the Texas A and M transfer,

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Speaker 4: is really starting to kick in the gear, had a

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Speaker 4: of explosion. Obviously, they're running back James Jordan James, I

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Speaker 4: should say we've talked about him before on the show.

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Speaker 4: Is just an incredibly explosive ball carrier, can run on

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Speaker 4: gotten a lot of underrated guys on that defense. Kyle

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Speaker 4: talked about Derek Harmon, but you look Day three guys,

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Speaker 4: it's as much Jordan Birch, who we talked about. We

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Speaker 4: hoped that he would have that breakout season. He's been injured,

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Speaker 4: really hasn't played that much recently, was injured, didn't even

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Speaker 4: play in the Ohio State game. We lost out on

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Speaker 4: that matchup we were hoping to see. I just think

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Speaker 1: Tony, you were in Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Ohio State this weekend, So how was your

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Speaker 4: Howd it go just the opposite because Ohio State is

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Speaker 4: an incredibly talented team that is horrendously coached as far

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Speaker 4: Ty Robinson the defensive lineman, really good player. I think

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Speaker 4: more of a gap occupier, but did a good job obviously.

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Speaker 4: It would be nice if Nebraska could get him a

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Speaker 4: running game as far as Ohio States concerned. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I mean it shouldn't have been a close game to

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Speaker 2: You know, Kyle, we joke last year all those guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's a totally fair observation from

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Speaker 3: from Tony's standpoint. The talent is obvious, and I know

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Speaker 3: Jack Sweer started the year really well, but as this

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Speaker 3: I would agree with this assessment of Ohio State. At

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Speaker 2: Still, I remember these regular season games aren't as important

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Speaker 2: but you get in and then anything can really happen.

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Speaker 2: All right, Kyle, Just let's take a kind of a

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Speaker 2: twenty thousand foot view here at the draft lass totally.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done this in a while.

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Speaker 2: Who are the guys that right now that from guys

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Speaker 3: I don't have ten, which is a bummer. For teams

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Speaker 3: I think you look at the position of value of

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Speaker 3: I think that Shaher Saners and cam Ward is becoming

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, John, No, I was gonna say, is that

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Speaker 2: a desperation thing with those two guys in the top

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Speaker 2: ten though, Kyle, or do you actually believe their top

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Speaker 3: I think when you factor for positional value, would they

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Speaker 3: be at the top of last year's draft class. No,

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Speaker 3: But I do think that they are players that have

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Speaker 3: they have very different strengths. And I know we're planning

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Speaker 3: all getting into this class as a whole during our

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Speaker 3: For me as somebody who I feel pretty good about

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Speaker 3: to be had there. The same thing goes for Ashton Gent,

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of where you start running out of

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Speaker 2: Pick, Tony, what do you think about that group? Would

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely add Abdul Calarter into that group because

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Speaker 4: I just think he's an explosive, impact defensive player who

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Speaker 4: can rush the passer. He's strong for a size. He's

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Speaker 4: some results for you. I would agree about the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think when you look at Sanders and

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Speaker 4: cam Ward, We've talked about this a number of times,

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Speaker 4: respond and come up big when Miami and needs it again.

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Speaker 4: They both check those boxes. But I think both of

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Speaker 4: those guys have a lot of fundamental flaws, you know,

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Speaker 4: unless they figure that out. I think the X factor

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Speaker 4: and it's going to be talked about what shador Sanders is.

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Speaker 4: His dad, you know, his dad said last year there

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Speaker 4: We'll see how that plays out. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 4: of tech. McMillan of Arizona. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 4: Will Campbell is a top ten pick, but I could

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Speaker 4: see a team reaching for the left tackle in the

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Speaker 4: top ten. We've seen it before. I mean, I like

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Speaker 4: the cornerbacks. With the cornerbacks, whether it be Will Johnson,

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Speaker 4: do you what do you do with those guys?

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say I didn't name Savon Revel from

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Speaker 3: East Carolina is another name that is out for the season.

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Speaker 3: But man, he's got some really exciting tape as far

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Speaker 3: as the ball skills, the tackling length and physicality. So

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Speaker 3: I totally echo those sentiments for you. As far as

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Speaker 3: that corner class is just the question of you know,

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Speaker 3: even he's a smaller school player now too that I

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Speaker 3: think they played Michigan a few years ago, but doesn't

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Speaker 1: Neither one of you guys mentioned Luther Burden.

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Speaker 2: How close do you think he is to Ted McMillan,

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Speaker 2: and do you think he could creep his way into

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Speaker 4: Well, what I said was coming into the season, the

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Speaker 3: Oh man, It's such a hard one to narrow down

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Speaker 1: How about you, Tom, I'll give you two names.

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Speaker 2: get to the quarterbacks. A lot of fans out there

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Speaker 1: Last year's class.

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Speaker 2: How do you see this class past Warden Sanders, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the guy I'm most excited about after

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Speaker 2: And Tony can hold hands on the Quinn yours analysis.

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Speaker 4: Tonty go ahead, Yeah, I mean, just the inability to

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Speaker 4: The Carraen Weigman of Texas A and M has shown

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna let you guys make a prediction.

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Speaker 3: I'd set the over under at three and a half

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Speaker 2: does what he bounces back. Tony Kyle put the over

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Speaker 2: on there, three and a half.

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Speaker 1: What do you think.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna probably be more like five. Not

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Speaker 4: that I think five should go on, but I mean,

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Speaker 4: let's look at history. I mean, except for the you know,

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Speaker 4: the Kenny Pickens year, it's been you know, four or

443
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Speaker 4: five six quarterbacks in the first round. We had what

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Speaker 4: six in the top fifteen last year. And I think

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Speaker 4: what's going to happen is, you know, we watched the film,

446
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Speaker 4: we watched the play, and then all of a sudden,

447
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Speaker 4: these guys will perform incredibly well the combine and they'll

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Speaker 4: show all the physical skills. And as I said time

449
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Speaker 4: and time again, you know the coaches, you have an

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Speaker 4: offensive uh an offensive, defensive minded head coach who says, yeah,

451
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take this guy and I'm going to turn

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Speaker 4: his physical skills into on the field production. I think

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Speaker 4: only two maybe three she go in the first round,

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Speaker 4: but I think you could see as many as five

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Speaker 4: because of the need at the position, because the way

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Speaker 4: teams are willing to roll the dice at the position.

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Speaker 4: I don't agree with it, but I think that's going

458
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Speaker 4: to be the case. That's going to be a situation.

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Speaker 1: So Tony betting on mismanagement by NFL general matters. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: see what you're doing there.

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Speaker 4: That's what that's the history, right, that's.

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Speaker 2: I think to Kyle's point though, why these guys are

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Speaker 2: better off? Man, you get drafted at twenty four, you

464
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Speaker 2: can sit for a year and a half. You come

465
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Speaker 2: into a better situation, you have a better chance to succeed.

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Speaker 2: So uh, we'll have to see how that ends up going.

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Speaker 2: All right, larger look at the class here, guys, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: we'll start with you. What is your favorite position group

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Speaker 2: in this year's draft class right now?

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Speaker 1: And why?

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Speaker 3: It's probably the cornerback class. I like the running back

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Speaker 3: class a lot too, but at corner Travis Hunter, Will

473
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Speaker 3: Johnson at the top, Savon Revel, who we mentioned already

474
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Speaker 3: from East Carolina. You still have really intriguing names. Jaday

475
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Speaker 3: barn from Texas has had a really impactful stretch of play.

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Speaker 3: You have Tacario Davis as another big bodied, long guy

477
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Speaker 3: from from Arizona. Benjamin Morrison, who was better last year.

478
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Speaker 3: I thought on tape before the seasoning ending injury that

479
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Speaker 3: he had to kind of cut his year short. I

480
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Speaker 3: like Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky, Jabbar Mohammad from from Oregon,

481
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Speaker 3: Mansor Delane from Virginia Tech is an interesting name. You

482
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Speaker 3: can really come up with a lot of guys. Quincy

483
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Speaker 3: Riley from Louisville can really move that I think are

484
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Speaker 3: fascinating players and all kinds of different profiles as far

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Speaker 3: as height, weight, speed, short, quick footed guys with low

486
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Speaker 3: center gravity, guys that can play positional versatility me and

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Speaker 3: the nickel or be outside. I just think it's it's

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Speaker 3: dealers choice in that position room with a lot of

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Speaker 3: quality options. And as we've seen this massive influx over

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Speaker 3: the past couple of years of wide receivers and how

491
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Speaker 3: seemingly easy it is to find mid round wide receivers

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Speaker 3: that can come in and be capable contributors for an

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Speaker 3: NFL team right off the jump. A class like this

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Speaker 3: I think can kind of help be a nice counterbalance

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Speaker 3: for a lot of those teams that need young guys

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Speaker 3: that can move and have fresh legs in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Tony, how about you, what's your favorite group?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was gonna pick cornerback, but when I

499
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Speaker 4: look at the injuries Will Johnson, who's been nicked up,

500
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Speaker 4: Benjamin Morrison. Kyle mentioned Shannon Ravel of East Carolina. Denzel

501
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Speaker 4: Burke has not played well. His game has gone in reverse.

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Speaker 4: We've seen that in the past with the Ohio State cornerbacks.

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Speaker 4: Kyle mentioned a Messoid Delayne of Virginia Tech. I also

504
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Speaker 4: like Dorian Strong, but I'm gonna say I like the

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Speaker 4: defensive defensive table class, but I like the running back

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Speaker 4: class a lot. I mean Ashton Genty, We've spoken about

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Speaker 4: him a lot. I think Trevor atn of Georgia. When

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Speaker 4: he's on the field, he's own the ability to create

509
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Speaker 4: yardage and basically just pull yards out of nowhere. Damian Martinez,

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Speaker 4: I mean, transfers to Miami and Florida figures he's gonna

511
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Speaker 4: be the number one back. He's now sharing time. But

512
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Speaker 4: when he's given the ball. They can't pull him down,

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Speaker 4: and as I said last show, that maybe to his

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Speaker 4: advantage because he's not gonna have two hundred, two hundred

515
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Speaker 4: and fifty carries this year, so he's not gonna have

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Speaker 4: a lot of mileage on him, which could help him

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Speaker 4: in the draft process. Of Marion Hampton of North Carolina's

518
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Speaker 4: an outstanding player. Nick Singleton of Penn State. You got

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Speaker 4: the duo at at Ohio State with Trevion Henderson and

520
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Speaker 4: Quinnshawn Jkins. Kyle Managhy has been a little bit up

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Speaker 4: and down this year, as has that entire Rutgers a team.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's a I think it's a real

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Speaker 4: good running back class. Obviously, it's head and shoulders above

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Speaker 4: what we saw a year ago with a first quarter

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Speaker 4: running back taken was a guy coming off knee injury.

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Speaker 4: In the second round was primarily third and fourth round picks.

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Speaker 4: You know where did these guys go? I mean a

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Speaker 4: lot of these A couple of these guys at at

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Speaker 4: the top are worthy of first round picks. I think

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Speaker 4: Genty will be a first round pick. I think what

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Speaker 4: atn Martinez and Hampton are going to go off the

532
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Speaker 4: board somewhere in the early middle part of Round two.

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Speaker 2: mentioned you like the running back position as well. I

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Speaker 2: want to give you a chance to talk about some

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Speaker 2: of those guys and I don't know if you have

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Speaker 2: like position rankings, if you want to put him in

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Speaker 2: a list for me or just talk about with some

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Speaker 2: of the guys that you really like at that running

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Speaker 2: back spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd also invoke the name Caleb Johnson from Iowa's

544
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Speaker 3: are really good, Like the Shanahan offenses are really gonna

545
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Speaker 3: love him as a wide zone runner. I mean, they

546
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Speaker 3: got a pretty good offensive line there at Iowa. But

547
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Speaker 3: he's a bigger body guy who does pretty well depress

548
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and is capable of some dynamic cuts.

549
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Speaker 3: Dylan Samson from Tennessee. If he's almost a twenty rushing

550
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Speaker 3: touchdowns already, like crazy production that he's had, then even

551
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Speaker 3: like a little bit deeper. A guy like r J.

552
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Speaker 3: Hart Herv was once upon a time a quarterback who

553
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Speaker 3: converted to play the running back position and has low

554
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Speaker 3: center gravity, runs angry, he's explosive. I think DJ Giddens

555
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Speaker 3: from Kansas State has made a nice jump this year

556
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Speaker 3: as far as being a little bit more decisive when

557
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Speaker 3: he cuts and puts his foot in the ground. But

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Speaker 3: the top guys, for me, it's it's genty. I like

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Speaker 3: Nick Singleton for what he brings on passing downs to

560
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Speaker 3: kind of help make up for some of the frustrating

561
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Speaker 3: inconsistencies at times where he could be a little explosive

562
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Speaker 3: run reliant, which you know that heightweight, speed, physical freak

563
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Speaker 3: from Penn State at the running back position. That's you've

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Speaker 3: seen that before as far as being a little explosive

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Speaker 3: play reliant. But what he does in the passing game

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Speaker 3: as far as both pass protection and catching the football,

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Speaker 3: I think helps his profile quite a bit. I like

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Speaker 3: a Marion Hampton at my three spot, and then Caleb

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Speaker 3: Johnson and quin Shawn Judkins for me would would probably

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Speaker 3: round that my top five right now.

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Speaker 2: And then Tony you mentioned defensive tackle running back in

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle at two spots that I think we've really

573
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Speaker 2: kind of had a bit of a dearth of talent

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Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, and both those position

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Speaker 2: groups are making a bit of a comeback this year,

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Speaker 2: finally sort of.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you don't have any knockout top defensive tackle.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be a top ten pick, maybe not

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Speaker 4: even a top twelve pick, but I think there is

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Speaker 4: some depth when you get the middle round one really

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Speaker 4: through day two. I like Deon Walker of Kentucky. I

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Speaker 4: think everybody's like de On Walker. Kentucky's a big guy

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Speaker 4: who makes plays. I like both of the Michigan guys,

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Speaker 4: Mason Graham as well as Kenneth Grant. I think Graham

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Speaker 4: is more NFL ready. He's more polished, he's explosive, he's

586
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Speaker 4: nast year. I think Grant is the better athlete. Grant

587
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Speaker 4: has got much better upside. I think Walter Nolan has

588
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Speaker 4: shown a lot of good things at Mississippi this year,

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Speaker 4: especially in the last couple of weeks. Mentioned high Leak

590
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Speaker 4: Williams at Ohio State. He's the only guy on that

591
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Speaker 4: Ohio State defensive front that seems to have a NonStop motor,

592
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Speaker 4: and he's athletic. He's it's more than a gap occupier.

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Speaker 4: You can get down the line outside the box and

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Speaker 4: make plays. TJ. Sanders, South Carolina's not being consistent this year,

595
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Speaker 4: but he's shown flashes of next level of really top

596
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Speaker 4: next level ability. Bar Alexander the one GA three technique

597
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Speaker 4: defensive tackle out of usc I like Jordan Phillips out

598
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Speaker 4: of Maryland, the big, punching themount type of those tackles,

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Speaker 4: zero technique tackle if you will, and yeah, y'all Black

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Speaker 4: of Iowa. I mean, here's a guy who's big, he's athletic,

601
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Speaker 4: he can make plays on the ball, he can occupy

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Speaker 4: the blockers, has a bit of upside, needs to take

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Speaker 4: his game to the next level, but definitely has got

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Speaker 4: a lot of next level.

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Speaker 1: Stuff in Kyle.

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Speaker 2: Defensive tackles in the NFL becoming more important, right A,

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Speaker 2: you want to get past USh up the middle. But

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Speaker 2: B as you play more and more of these two

609
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Speaker 2: safety deep shell coverages, you need your front to be

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Speaker 2: able to stop the run on their own because you're

611
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Speaker 2: not going to bring help down there to get extra

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Speaker 2: You guys in the box, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You're looking at more and more six six and a

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Speaker 3: half man box counts suspect, so as you live in

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Speaker 3: the nickel and those guys that can really control and

616
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Speaker 3: deconstruct blocks go a long way, whether that's a nose tackle.

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Speaker 3: You're seeing that with the Tennessee Titans and to and

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Speaker 3: Andre Sweat, who's been really impactful for them as far

619
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Speaker 3: as occupying space and allowing the guys behind you to

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Speaker 3: run free and holding the point of attack, or guys

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Speaker 3: that can kind of lock peak, shed and deconstruct blocks

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Speaker 3: off their own, which I think that's a little bit

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Speaker 3: more of the style of play that Mason Graham has.

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Speaker 3: He reminds me a good bit of Christian Wilkins coming

625
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Speaker 3: out of Clemson as far as the pass rush profile

626
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Speaker 3: feels a little better than the production's been, but he's

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Speaker 3: really good on running downs. He plays with leverage. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: the pads get up a little bit, but when that

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Speaker 3: clicks into place, I think he can be a three down,

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Speaker 3: high volume snap taker. And that's really the missing link.

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Speaker 3: As far as some of these interior guys going early,

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Speaker 3: you get the whole positional value is starting to come around,

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Speaker 3: But then it's what we want to rotate up from.

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Speaker 3: We want to keep our guys from fresh up front.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna play enough snaps to really justify a

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Speaker 3: premium draft selection? And there's gonna only be certain number

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Speaker 3: of guys on the interior when you're that big, that

638
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Speaker 3: play with that motor and that endurance to justify that.

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Speaker 3: And I think that it could be a big tie

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Speaker 3: breaker for some of these guys in this kind of

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Speaker 3: crowded block on Day two and that Tony's talking about.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, I want to talk take two position

643
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Speaker 2: groups and kind of put them together because they face

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Speaker 2: each other, the offensive tackle and edge rusher groups. I

645
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Speaker 2: think before the year, early in this draft process, we

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Speaker 2: thought that could be a real strength of this class.

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Speaker 2: I saw multiple offensive tackles mocked in the top ten,

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Speaker 2: multiple edge rushers mocked in the top ten. Yet when

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Speaker 2: we guys talked about at the start of the show,

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Speaker 2: now one offensive tackle was mentioned. Tony mentioned Will Campbell's

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Speaker 2: maybe a fringe guy, and all the edge guys we

652
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Speaker 2: talked about at the start of the year, we haven't

653
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: talked about that much either, Kyle. We've seen those two

654
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: position groups just kind of not live up to what

655
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: the hype was when the season started.

656
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think the hype from from the summer was

657
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: guys at blue blood program that are highly recruited players

658
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: that have been multi year starters that you're kind of

659
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: just hoping on the athleticisn't really clicking in the place

660
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: and the jump happening. And I think about the tackle

661
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: class in particular, where it was kind of a two

662
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: horse race with Will Campbell and Kelvin Banks, and I

663
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: think both of those guys some of the same questions exist.

664
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: I have questions if Will Campbell projects better at garter

665
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: tackle in the NFL as a guy who he plays

666
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: with good power. He's super dense, but he's not super long.

667
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: I think he's better when he's playing forward and in

668
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: a foam booth. And I think you've seen go put

669
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: on the South Carolina tape. I mean, they stressed him

670
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: off the edge at times throughout the course of that game.

671
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: And South Carolina's got a couple of good pass rushers,

672
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: but they're the kind that you're gonna find in the NFL.

673
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: It looked like maybe Josh Simmons from Ohio State could

674
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: have interjected himself into that conversation, but he suffered a

675
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: season ending injury, so that felt like a really big

676
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: gut punch for the tackle class in particular. And on

677
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: the edge, it's kind of the same thing where guys

678
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: were projections. James Pierce is super lean and explosive and

679
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: Bendi and everybody on the Internet that follows college football

680
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: and the draft, they love guys that can run full

681
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: speed under the kitchen table and bend the edge. But

682
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 3: there's more to it, and Pierce has turned it on

683
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: a little bit in sec play. But he started slow.

684
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: MIKEL Williams, for this freakish arm length that he has,

685
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: was a really buzzy player. He logged his first sacks

686
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: of the season against Texas, and he started slow, and

687
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: he had an ankle injury that he had to deal

688
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: with and missed a little bit of time. Abdull Carter,

689
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: I know Tony mentioned him. I would agree with Tony

690
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: as far as like the outlook on and Abdul Carter,

691
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: but there's certain defensive schemes that I don't think I

692
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: would trust with Abdull Carter to get the most out

693
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: of him. If you're gonna play him in a wide

694
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: nine as a defensive end and just ask him to

695
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 3: rush the passer, I think you're leaving a lot on

696
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: the table with him. So I think he's somebody that

697
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: maybe you need a little bit more of a firm

698
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: vision with to maximize what he's really capable of, and

699
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: that might not be for everybody when you get down

700
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: to the actual evaluation of the player.

701
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: Tony, your thoughts on those two groups and whether or

702
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: not they've kind of met early season expectations, Well, you know, I.

703
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: Think Calvin Banks did early on, but he said he's

704
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 4: really struggled the past couple of weeks. And have we

705
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: talked about Calvin Banks. I mean he may not even

706
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: be a six foot four, so he projects the guard.

707
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: Same thing with Josh Connery Oregon terrific college left tackle,

708
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: but just does not have dimensions to stay at tackle,

709
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: you know on Sunday, which is what's going to be

710
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: very interesting to see on draft Day. I mean, if

711
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: these guys come with good arm length, but they don't

712
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 4: measure up you know, six four and a half whatever,

713
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: are they drafted as tackles or they drafted as guards?

714
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 4: You know. Diego Pounds, the North Carolina transfer who transferred

715
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: Mississippi play left tackle, has had his struggles at times.

716
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 4: Mentioned Josh Simmons, and there were a lot of people

717
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: thought Josh Simmons was going to be a first round pick.

718
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: Hurt his knee in that Oregon game, he's done for

719
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 4: the year, and it's kind of really there's no one

720
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: that's really exciting after that. The kid from Minnesota urserie

721
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: has been up and down armand member of Missouri real

722
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: good right tackle, but he's six foot three. He's going

723
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: to be a guard, So I think that's that's an

724
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 4: issue as far as the As far as the edge

725
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: class is concerned, I think the X factor here is

726
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: Jalen Walker of Georgia, who has really jumped off the

727
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: charts a lot like abdual Carter in that he's multi versatile.

728
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: He can do a lot of different things. He can

729
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: force the action up the field, or you can get

730
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 4: him to drop off the line and play in space,

731
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: you know, ten to fifteen yards down the field when

732
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 4: the ball is in the air. And a guy whose

733
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: game is really taken off. I mean, he was a

734
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: situational reserve last year at Georgia. He moved into the

735
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: starting lineup and I think he's just getting better and

736
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: better and more explosive and really took over when Mikhel

737
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: Williams was having those injury problems. So that is the guy.

738
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: With Jaylen Walker of Georgia, you got to keep an

739
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: eye on, all.

740
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 2: Right, Kyle, any other position groups are guys that you

741
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: want to bring up and mention that maybe we haven't

742
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: touched on.

743
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: I would look at the safety class as another group

744
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: that has some really intriguing players and maybe a little

745
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: bit more important. And I know the spacing of it

746
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: has changed when you gone from a lot of the

747
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: Cover three stuff about a decade ago and the Legion

748
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: of Boom and the Earl Thomases of the world, and

749
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: you're not really looking for that anymore. But guys that

750
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: have versatility, alignment, versatility, can play in the box, can

751
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: play in the nickel, can play on the roof. Guys

752
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 3: that can do all that kind of stuff. Those are

753
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: the guys now that I think move the needle. And

754
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: Malachi starts from Georgia is I think head and shoulders

755
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: the best one of the group. He's capable of doing

756
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: just about anything that you could ask for. Penn State

757
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: has a talented one in Kevin Winston who's been banged

758
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: up a little bit this year, so I'm kind of

759
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: watching to see if there's a bounce back in store

760
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 3: for him. Kean sab transferred from miss in Alabama Showcase

761
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 3: his toughness. He played almost a whole game with a

762
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: broken foot, but he was really popping before he ended

763
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: up getting hurt. And Nick m and Worri from South

764
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 3: Carolina is a super size six foot three, two hundred

765
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: and twenty five pounds, makes some plays on the ball too,

766
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: some really nice stuff where he's aligned underneath and getting

767
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: into hook curl throwing windows, and can really fly and

768
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 3: has a lot of length for his tackle radius. Billy

769
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Bowman from Oklahoma's an undersized player that just can't seem

770
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: to get away from the football. I think that's not

771
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: something that you can sleep on, but I do think

772
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: his stature does hurt his profile a little bit when

773
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: you project him to the next level. And then I'd

774
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: give a shout out to Kamari Ramsey from USC as

775
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: well as another guy that has just been a big

776
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: time playmaker for the Trojans on their back end. So

777
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: I think the safety group, maybe these guys don't get

778
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: drafted super high because it's the new defensive running backs

779
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: that we were just not going to put a ton

780
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: of emphasis there. But I don't think it's a coincidence

781
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: that some of the better defenses in the league have

782
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: guys that can do a lot of different things with

783
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: your personnel and you don't have to turn your personnel

784
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: over to try and match whatever an opposing offense is

785
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: trying to do.

786
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: And Tony sitting with inside off ball linebackers right like,

787
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: it's a group that teams don't use high picks on anymore,

788
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: a lot like safety. You know, if you look at

789
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: the franchise tag numbers, those that numbers low just like

790
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: you know, it gets brought up as they consider of

791
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: the edge guys to be TV linebackers. But generally speaking,

792
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: inside linebackers in safeties don't get paid in the NFL level.

793
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: They don't. But you know you do have some decent

794
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: three down linebackers this year. Danny Stutsman to Oklahoma who

795
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: stacks well against the run, He gives it up against

796
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: the blitz, he can play in space. Barreck Carter seems

797
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: to be the forgotten guy out a Clemson decided to

798
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: go back. He's a super explosive, great pursuit, can run

799
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: down the field and coverage. Nick Martin of Oklahoma State

800
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: is just having a knockout year. You want to talk

801
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: about an explosive guy who impacts the game up the field,

802
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: but is also good in space, in coverage and pursuit

803
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: jam and Dumas Johnson, the Georgia transfer who went to

804
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: Kentucky's having a solid year. I also like smel Mondon Jr.

805
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: Not the biggest guy, not the most athletic, but very

806
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: instinctive and always puts himself in a position to make

807
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: plays on the ball.

808
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: All right, final question for both of you guys, first

809
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: overall pick, give me a prediction for next year's draft,

810
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: if it's a quarterback and if it's not a quarterback.

811
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: So you can give me two names. Kyle, let's start

812
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: with you.

813
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: I will go if it's a quarterback, I think it

814
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: will be cam Ward. I think the gene that he

815
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: has to make plays outside of structure. Nothing's never too

816
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: fast for him. I think he has a little bit

817
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: more athletically and arm talent wise to lean on than

818
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: Schidur does. So I would go cam Ward a quarterback.

819
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: And if I were to go non quarterback, I will

820
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: go with the guy who can answer a problem for

821
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 3: you on offense or defense. And I'll go with Travis Hunter,

822
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: who I think the sky is the limit for him

823
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: on either side. I think his core, his ceiling is

824
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: higher at corn corner, but the money's higher at wide receiver.

825
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: So which way does that ultimately go? That'll be a

826
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: fun storyline to watch on fold till.

827
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not letting to get off the hook. Dude.

828
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: Is he gonna get drafted as a corner or are

829
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 2: the receiver? Or will it be a team that says, look,

830
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna play him at corner and we'll get you

831
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: fifteen snaps in wide receiver?

832
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: How do you think that's gonna work?

833
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: That should be how it goes. I think you should

834
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: play him to be full time at corner because the

835
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: instincts there and the fluidity and the transitional quickness. I

836
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: think that's much more rare. I think he's a really

837
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: good wide receiver, but I think the package he can

838
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: be at corner is really rare. A lot of the

839
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: instinct toolplays that he makes, as far as being able

840
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: to leverage multiple routes at the same time, in anticipating

841
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: where the ball is going, knowing when he has helped

842
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: to make those aggressive plays on the ball, that's where

843
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: he moves the needle most for me. And then if

844
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: you want to let him do that for a year

845
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: or two and then say, hey, we'll do the Devin

846
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: Hester thing and we'll get you some packages for stuff

847
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: to get some action on the other side. We can

848
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: do that down the road. That's how I would handle it.

849
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: Team.

850
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I think that makes sense.

851
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: Tony, your thoughts on the Hunter thing, and then you

852
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: can give me your first quarterback pick and your first

853
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 2: non quarterback pick if you had the guest right now

854
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: as of October twenty ninth.

855
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: In my opinion, Hunter right now is a better receiver

856
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 4: than he is he is.

857
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: A cornerback now.

858
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: Cornerback obviously is a priority position, but I still think

859
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: he needs work at that position, especially making plays with

860
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: his back to the ball. As far as the first quarterback,

861
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: you know, Kim Ward fits everything that I liked in

862
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 4: a quarterback. And what I look is for guys who

863
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: are on the upswing, guys who are playing their best football,

864
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: you know, come draft time, a lah Jaden Daniels from

865
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 4: a year ago.

866
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: And Tony, I like the fact that he's a fifty

867
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: year quarterback and he's played a lot of football.

868
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: That's a good thing to me.

869
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Speaker 4: And again, the jump that he made between twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: three and twenty twenty four. You know, in my opinion,

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00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: is outstanding, especially between the ears. You know, because he

872
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 4: always knew you watch him at Washington State. He always

873
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: had the physical skills. He still sprays some of his passes,

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Speaker 4: and he's got to work on that accuracy, that pass placement,

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00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: but it's better than it was prior to two years.

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: And just his whole handling of the offense is incredible.

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Speaker 4: That said, I'm gonna go with chadors Anders as my

878
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: number one quarterback just because I think he's got better escapability.

879
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: He's got the same physical skills. He's got the bloodlines

880
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: which may work against him, but he's been a real

881
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: good quarterback for three years. Tries to do too much,

882
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: tries to take it too much on his shoulders. I

883
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 4: also think that oftentimes you watch those Colorado games, he's

884
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: staring down Travis Hunty too much and he's missing other receivers,

885
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: maybe his old man. He needs to kick him in

886
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 4: the butt and say, hey, you know, spread the ball around.

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00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: He seems to have done that better the past couple

888
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 4: of games. As far as non quarterbacks, I think the

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00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: Kyle picked made the fashionable pick with Travis Hunter. I'm

890
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Speaker 4: gonna go with a dual card reminds me a lot

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00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 4: of LaVar Raverington, reminds me of Mike Parson's type player,

892
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: that impact defensive player. And I think when there is,

893
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 4: you know, a draft where there isn't superior talent at

894
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Speaker 4: the top, you may get a surprise like Abdual Carter

895
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Speaker 4: going that early.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Gentlemen, enjoy the rest of the college

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Speaker 1: football season.

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Speaker 4: Kyle.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you again once we get through

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Speaker 2: the season we get to the All Star Games. Look

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Speaker 2: forward to seeing you out there, and best of luck

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Speaker 2: with everything you're doing with the thirty third team.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, it's great catching up with you guys.

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