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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Milly to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Henderson.

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Speaker 1: We're doing a film podcast again. People. What's happening?

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Speaker 2: Daniel? Not much with me, but you. I have some

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Speaker 2: questions for you because you recently went to three eleven.

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Speaker 1: In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four. You okay,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta hear all about it.

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Speaker 2: It delights me that you are a fan, like it

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Speaker 2: delights me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this for real because people think

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Speaker 1: it's a joke, which I can understan know why you

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Speaker 1: think it's a joke, because like, what about a joke?

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Speaker 1: It's not. You truly love them. I let me tell

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Speaker 1: you my history with them. I don't know if I've

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Speaker 1: ever talked about this before, but we're about to because

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Speaker 1: you're like, why would you why would you see this band?

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I have not seen them

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Speaker 1: since the late nineties. The last time I saw them

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Speaker 1: was in Atlanta and No Doubt opened up for them.

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Speaker 1: Oh my word. Yeah, So we're talking like maybe like

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Speaker 1: Tragic Kingdom era No Doubt opening up for three eleven,

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Speaker 1: So like that's the era we were in like this

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Speaker 1: was so long ago. I mean, Gwen Stefani is like

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Speaker 1: married to Blake Shelton and they're both on the voice.

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Speaker 1: They're like, she is so far away from this iteration

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Speaker 1: of her former self.

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Speaker 2: She's a household fucking name.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there are people that don't even know she

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Speaker 1: was in no doubt, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Oh that makes me so sad. Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: I know, I know you're telling me the truth, but

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Speaker 2: that makes me so bummed out.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's kind of like how I never knew that,

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Speaker 1: you know, whomever, like Wilford Brimley was in the thing,

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Speaker 1: like you were like whatever. It's like you just don't

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Speaker 1: know these things when you're a kid, and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's not the Quaker oats guy all the time. He

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Speaker 1: was actually an actor, he was actually. Yeah. So so

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Speaker 1: when I was I want to say this was probably

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Speaker 1: like maybe ninth grade, I went to a festival here

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta that used to happen. It was based around

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Speaker 1: actually a college radio station that I used to work at,

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Speaker 1: but I hadn't worked there yet obviously I was young,

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Speaker 1: and they used to do this weekend concert and the

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Speaker 1: Sunday component was called Sonic Sunday, and it was like

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Speaker 1: this place where listen. I wasn't that cool when I

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Speaker 1: was a super young kid, like when I was in

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Speaker 1: be adjacent to that kind of stuff. And I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Sonic Sunday. And I saw this

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Speaker 1: band of three eleven that all the skater boys loved.

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Speaker 1: Like that was one thing that I internalized very quickly

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Speaker 1: about three eleven was that all the guys that liked

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Speaker 1: them were skater were skaters, and I desperately wanted to

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Speaker 2: Guys as I also did.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I the this was so this was so important

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Speaker 1: for me as a young woman. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: want to be around skater guys. I kind of want

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Speaker 1: to dress like a skater guy too, Like I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be their skater betty girlfriends. So I wore at

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Speaker 1: nees and like Supreme and like all of the skater

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Speaker 1: shit that was out. Do you remember what was like

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Speaker 1: some of the skater brands that were out in that era.

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Speaker 1: Like there was a shirt that I had that said

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Speaker 1: bad Cop, no Donut, which I which, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: to this day is like my party line on Cops.

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Speaker 2: That just unearthed such a memory, such memories for me,

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Speaker 2: things I have not thought about since nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean like that was the thing. It

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Speaker 1: Vans and Alien Workshop, Alien Workshop, Etney's Supreme, like and

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Speaker 1: Vision street Wear, Vision Streetwear, Massimo Vans, an actual Jason

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Speaker 2: Before he got into acting and all the Kevin fucking

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Speaker 1: Yep Thrasher magazine, Like are you knding? I know because

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Speaker 1: you used to skate, right, weren't you like a skater

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my center of gravity was always so unknown that

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Speaker 1: But I desperately loved skaters and skate culture and guys.

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Speaker 1: I loved guys when I was a kid, so immediately,

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Speaker 1: like I thought, three eleven was like the band for

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Speaker 1: the skater guys in my school. So of course I

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Speaker 1: was like, yes, they're now my favorite band ever. And

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Speaker 1: then I went and saw them again the next year

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Speaker 1: when they put out this album called Grassroots, which was

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Speaker 1: their I guess maybe second I think probably their second

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Speaker 1: or third album. But here's the thing about three eleven.

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Speaker 1: They were for skater guys. They were for people who

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Speaker 1: smoked weed, which at the time I smoked a lot

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Speaker 1: of wheat. I've been on record about this. I was

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Speaker 1: early an early weed smoker, high school weed smoker, and

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Speaker 1: was just you know, I had formed friendships around weed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if my parents are listening, but if

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Speaker 1: you are, this is what was happening with your daughter.

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Speaker 2: Also, guess what they knew.

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Speaker 1: They probably knew.

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Speaker 2: They could smell shit. They're not dumb.

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Speaker 1: I was convinced that they didn't. And that's again me

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Speaker 1: like me thinking that I was more mysterious than I

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Speaker 1: actually was like being like, they don't know. They don't

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Speaker 1: I have drank This is no reality.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is how kids, this is how teenagers passed

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Speaker 2: the torch through time, is by believing they are getting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: They have to believe. There's no way my mom and

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Speaker 2: dad know I'm fucked up, even though they won one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent know I'm fucked up. Oh, I know because

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Speaker 2: they had been around me every day of my goddamn lives.

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Speaker 1: I I know I did acid, I did LSD in

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Speaker 1: their home with like three of my friends while they slept.

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Speaker 1: What did I really think that I was getting away

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Speaker 1: with stuff? I think they just were cool and didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they are cool for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they're cool. I mean, they weren't like negligent, but

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Speaker 2: Would also I think if they knew outright, like if

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Speaker 2: like they're not that cool. But I think they probably

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Speaker 2: a little wild, and that's it. Okay, and you weren't

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Speaker 2: like you didn't seem like you were like a weird

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Speaker 1: No. No, So in fact, I was the only at

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Speaker 1: one point, I think it was my sophomore year, like

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Speaker 1: ninety percent of my girlfriends at the time dropped out

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Speaker 1: of high school. Oh my god, I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: like literally all my girlfriends dropped out of high school

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Speaker 1: and I was the only one that didn't. Damn me,

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Speaker 1: and like maybe two other girls that were in our

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Speaker 1: friend group, there are you joking? There was no fucking

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Speaker 1: way I'd be able to drop out of fucking high school.

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Speaker 1: Like with immigrant parents, one of them being Asian, Are

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Speaker 2: So they're like, do whatever you gotta do to get through, girl,

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Speaker 1: You could take LSC every fucking day, but you better

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Speaker 1: not drop out. But uh, anyway to the point, And

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Speaker 1: alien shit's kind of weird, but whatever, Like this is

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Speaker 1: like legit, liked the music. I like rap, I like reggae. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I do like it when white people dabble in those worlds.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, because it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, look, I had that Big Mountain song CD single,

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Speaker 2: Noe Say Big Mountain.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hell yeah, I did.

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Speaker 2: OU don't mind a dreadlock that looks like a snake

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Speaker 1: I might know most of the lyrics to Informer by Snow,

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Speaker 1: the dabbling, the dabbling over the listen. I'm gonna I

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Speaker 1: corny a corny thing like that, Like you know, I

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Speaker 2: Where that was not appropriation never entered the conversation. We

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Speaker 1: had revealed on this podcast that I liked them, and

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Speaker 1: then people were like that I just was in the

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Speaker 1: news cycle, the three eleven news cycle, because all our

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Speaker 2: They were like photoshopping you into alien shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our listeners are so fucking funny, but like that

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Speaker 3: because they were just like, hey, I heard that three

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Speaker 3: eleven is doing this thing immediately, like in my dms

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Speaker 3: on my Instagram, it was like or like people would

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Speaker 3: write us emails and just be like, did you know

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Speaker 3: that three eleven is gonna score the new Lion King movie?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I don't know or whatever. They just

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Speaker 2: Would actually see the Lion King multiple times if true.

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Speaker 1: But then the real the real news started when you

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Speaker 1: gone on my ass for not telling you that Nick Hexum,

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Speaker 1: the lead singer three eleven, was hot.

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Speaker 2: You and Chileta Sharp both still unnoticed.

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Speaker 1: Both of y'all still unnoticed.

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Speaker 2: When I saw picture of that dude, now, I was like,

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Speaker 2: are you fucking kidding me? And all the photo shopping

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Speaker 2: alien weed shit that you've been talking about with this band.

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Speaker 2: Never once you've been a day one er with this band? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: never once said Oh yeah, by the way, lead singer

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Speaker 1: So here's here's what I'm about to report about this

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Speaker 1: He is still hot, Like we knew. We knew he

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Speaker 2: Like percentage of people who have black rises, yeah, percentage of.

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Speaker 1: The man is is a Nebraskan. Yeah, it's cold.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he still lives there, but I

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like it would be a successful I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I it was kind of shocking, and

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Speaker 2: It would be visible if he was taking that shit,

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00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: because they always have like weird veins popping in places

435
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: where they can't control, and like they can't control the

436
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: way that shit looks.

437
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Speaker 1: You always look a little bit ruddy.

438
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't, He doesn't give me that. Also, what's interesting

439
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: is he looks very attractive and then he opens his

440
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: mouth and sings three eleven songs and my brain cannot

441
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: connect the two.

442
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Speaker 1: Listen. Part of like what I loved about them in

443
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Speaker 1: high school is that they spoke very poetically about smoking weed,

444
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: like if it wasn't just like a thing you did

445
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: with your friends, like they would be like everything I

446
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: eat is from the earth, and what I eat straight

447
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: up earth, like very like they provided a poetry to

448
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Speaker 1: being a stoner that at the time I really appreciated.

449
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: And then you fast forward that Ships like this year,

450
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: you're like, yo, they're still on some shit about.

451
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 5: Weed, huh, Like like they've ndicated their lives to the

452
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 5: poetry of weed.

453
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Speaker 1: They played you know a lot of their hits, you know,

454
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Speaker 1: they played like all mixed up, they played you know, Amber,

455
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: all this stuff that people like. I mean, personally, I'm

456
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: an old school head, so I was like, you could

457
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Speaker 1: play Ship from the first two albums, I would be

458
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: completely happy about that, or maybe even the first three albums.

459
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Speaker 1: But there was a moment where they played that song Down,

460
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: which is like one of their It was a very

461
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: popular song back when that album came out. And now

462
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything but when they were on

463
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: the Eric Andre Show. Do you remember when three eleven

464
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: was on The Eric Andre Show and then Eric Andre

465
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Speaker 1: waterboarded that guy while they were playing down? What is

466
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: wrong with that man? I to me, it's like still

467
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: one of the best things that ever happened on Adult

468
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: Swim is just watching Eric Andre and Hannibal Buris like

469
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: fuck with three eleven, oh my, truly fuck with real? Yeah,

470
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: And like Tea paying was there, do you remember, like

471
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: Tee Paine shows up, Like I was like, what the

472
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: fuck is happening? But yeah, your boy Nick Hexum got

473
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: waterboarded by Eric Andre and that's the only thing I

474
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: can think of when they play that song. But yeah,

475
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: it was so it was like it was kind of

476
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 1: heartwarming at the end of the day because it was like,

477
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: here's the band that I'm like, sort of weirdly consistently

478
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: appreciated throughout the years. I'm seeing them as an adult.

479
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm having this like throwback evening where I'm like hot

480
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: boxing my car with my friends and like listening to

481
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: the Breeders, and then this shit pops off and it's perfect.

482
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: It was like perfect show, all the hits, very peaceful,

483
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: no fights.

484
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: You know.

485
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: It was great. And I am not kidding.

486
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: I personally am not into three eleven music, but I

487
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: am not kidding when I say how much it delights

488
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: me that you are an actual fan and like and

489
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: it's a good time for you. It is a good

490
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: time purely. When is the last time you so rarely

491
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: get to purely have a good time with something? And

492
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: that is what they are for. They have never been

493
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: the like here's My Depressing A lot of more set

494
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: album they have always been. Here's my poetry on weed.

495
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: Here's poetry on weed again, this time a little more aliens.

496
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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep.

497
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: Talking about weed, but we're gonna connect it to Earth

498
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: mothers and diet.

499
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, aliens and fucking like other astral planes and ancient civilizations. Like,

500
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Speaker 1: they didn't play one of my favorite songs because I

501
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: because I'm a girl. It's called my Stony Baby, which

502
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: is off of the three eleven music album, which is

503
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: literally about just like being in love with a girl

504
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: that smokes weed with you. I'm like, oh, that's so cute.

505
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: It's like those old rag time like piano diddies were

506
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: like my baby loves Me, except it's just about a

507
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: girl that spokes by sony baby babe, my baby babe, babe.

508
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: That is what that song is gonna sound like to

509
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: your nephews in twenty years.

510
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't even if they're still around to

511
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: in cruises.

512
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: You know they will be. They'll be playing on the

513
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: fucking moon.

514
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. I just have to say so,

515
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: like such a great time, full circle moment really for

516
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: this podcast, And of course I was like texting you

517
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: videos the entire time, thankfully.

518
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Can you believe this, but I could not believe what

519
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: you were saying. I couldn't believe what I was saying.

520
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: But thank you for being my friend and holding space

521
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: for this weird passion. Always talk about being good friends

522
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: means holding space for weird passions, and it just happens

523
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: to be mine.

524
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: And everyone get ready to start sending more photoshops of

525
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: Millie and an alien on a skateboard riding into the

526
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: sun or whatever they do, because.

527
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: That was great too. That was fucking hilarious. Oh my god,

528
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: should we talk about movies or let's get into it.

529
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: All right?

530
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: So why don't we talk about this bummer theme that

531
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: you created.

532
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: Our theme today is maybe we deserve it, and it's

533
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: about climate change or the global crisis on screen.

534
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: I'm speechless once again. I don't know what to say, because, yeah,

535
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: your movie was a fucking buh. Had you ever seen

536
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: it before? Nope? Wh Yeah, first time watch, even though

537
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe, because I you know, I love

538
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: the people involved, yes, obviously.

539
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: But I also love bringing you a brand new bummer film.

540
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: Shit I was I was like, yo, I will say that, like,

541
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad Clive Owen was in it.

542
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, at least occasionally I could look into those eyes,

543
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: give me.

544
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: Something look at while I'm freaking depressed as ship.

545
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: Well, also, I have to say this this so this

546
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: the film, My film This Week came out in two

547
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: thousand and six, so at the time that it came out,

548
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: they were envisioning a possible future in twenty twenty seven.

549
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: Now that we are three years out from that and

550
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: kind of the world kind of looks like this movie,

551
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: it is a very different experience to watch it for

552
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: the first time, I'm sure.

553
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

554
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like think back to two thousand and six, you're

555
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: you know, you're Indie Slea's moments, you know, Mariah Carey

556
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: was still making music. I think, like, yes, you know,

557
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: just care free time comparatively, and then now, yeah, so

558
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, in two thousand and six,

559
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: this had quite the impact on me, but not as

560
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: much as this recent viewing.

561
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually it's funny you say that, because I

562
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: that's like the first thing that I wrote down when

563
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: talking about My movie This Week is that twenty fifteen

564
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: was simply a goaded year before Trump got elected. Basically,

565
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: it's like both these movies happened kind of before the

566
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: world actual turn to shit.

567
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: Right, There's always been wars, I've always been famine, There've

568
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: always been bad things about the world. I think it

569
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: felt more in that former time like there were things

570
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: we could actually do about it, and now it feels

571
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: like we're fighting multiple wars on multiple fronts, with multiple

572
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: crises and it is overwhelming. Yeah.

573
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: Two thousand and six, man, holy shit, Yeah, what a

574
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: great what a great little decade. That was the two

575
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: thousands where I didn't care about fuck. I was like

576
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: loving it all. Yeah, it was like our Indie Sley's moment.

577
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: Everybody had sweaty side swept bangs. We're all just getting hammered,

578
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: Like it was awesome. What happened? What happened to our youth? Wow?

579
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: This episode is gonna be such a fucking low key bummer.

580
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: But honestly, like, great movie you picked this week. I

581
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about it. I think you're going first.

582
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: I am, and yours too. Like I your movie was

583
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: probably one of the first in the entry point of

584
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: bummer films that I used to watch constantly, like pre

585
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: Cher Nobyle. Yeah, because I could still watch this movie

586
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: every single day.

587
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think this movie is uplifting a shit,

588
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: I mean, despite it being a general bummer, like the

589
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: theme is a bummer, but like I never never get

590
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: as much of a charge as I do when I'm

591
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: watching my movie, and particularly one of the characters in

592
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: it's so ooh.

593
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, I am going first. So I'm just gonna

594
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: tell you right off the bat that my movie was

595
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: again released in two thousand and six. The screenplay is

596
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: by Alfonso Quarone, Timothy Sexton, David Arata, Mark Fergus, and

597
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: Hawk Astby. The director is Alfonso quara and my movie

598
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: is Children of Men.

599
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,720
Speaker 1: The ultimate mystery.

600
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: Why are women infertile?

601
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: Some say it's genetic experiments, pollution?

602
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: Why do you think we can't make babies anymore? Doesn't matter,

603
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: It's all over in fifty years now. My one sentence

604
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: synopsis and this is a top ten movie for me.

605
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: Nice it is absolutely and my one sentence synopsis is

606
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: in a future plagued by infertility and war, one man

607
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: has to ensure the safety of a teenage refugee who

608
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: was the first person to be pregnant in nineteen years

609
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: whoa So the central question of this movie is why

610
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: can't we make babies anymore?

611
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: What happened to the world.

612
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: But what I love about the movie is that it's

613
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: this very interesting juxtaposition of incredibly bleak imagery and action

614
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: and then completely normal day to day activities, which again

615
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: was more shocking to me, I think in two thousand

616
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: and six, like how could that be? How could that be?

617
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: But now we live in that where we have to

618
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: carry forth our day to day bullshit while also looking

619
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: at the trauma of war and the effects of government

620
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: on our lives every fucking day. And so I love

621
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: how I love the messaging of the movie, but I

622
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: also because it's not uplifting, it's not purely and then a.

623
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Beautiful thing happens.

624
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Even when you find out that this teenager is pregnant,

625
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: it's not it's a miracle, but it's not met with joy.

626
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, It's still met with.

627
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: Fear, stress, anxiety, and confusion. So I love the messaging

628
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: of the film. I love the way that the story

629
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: is told, but I also love the way that it's filmed.

630
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: So there are a lot of scenes in this movie

631
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: that are filmed on a handheld camera, and part of

632
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: what feels so real to me is that you're in

633
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: the action with the actors. So at one point, for example,

634
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of blood that's that splatters as a

635
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: result of a bombing, and it's in a handheld scene

636
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: that is completely NonStop, and the blood isn't wiped away,

637
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 2: it just hangs there. What people are being killed and

638
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: buildings are being bombed in it adds to this visceral

639
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,479
Speaker 2: realness of what's happening. I also love that it took

640
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: me so many viewings over so many years to realize

641
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: that the white guy with redlocks is Charlie Hunham Sons

642
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 2: of Anarchy ass Charlie Hunum.

643
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's right. I didn't make that connection.

644
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know him in two thousand and six. Is

645
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: he British? Okay?

646
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: I think he's all might be Australian. Yeah, Charlie fucking

647
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: Hunum is in this movie, and now I have to

648
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: look up his ethnicity or he must know we must know.

649
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: No, he's UK, okay, so we could say he's British.

650
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: The next thing that we got to see is does

651
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: he have a brown wife? That's the same question.

652
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Look, he might his spouse is Catherine town. Let's take

653
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: a look. Oh no, she was white, but they got divorced,

654
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: and he's looking real comfortable next to a brown lady

655
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 2: in some of these photos. So that's our That is.

656
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: Like our modus apparandi. Anytime we like find it an actor,

657
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, what's his ethnicity? And does he have

658
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: a brown wife? Those are the two questions that we

659
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 1: always ask.

660
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: What's this country of origin? How problematic is it? And

661
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: does he like, is it obvious that he's not racist?

662
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: So sad, so sad that.

663
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: We have the lowest fucking bar, the lowest fucking bar. God,

664
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, that always that blew me away. When I

665
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: first I'm like, wait, after I watched Sons of Anarchy,

666
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: and then I watched Children of Men and I was like,

667
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: that is absolutely Charli Hunum. He's been there the whole time. Hilarious.

668
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: So this is a movie that is about war. We

669
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: are in the midst of a war in this film.

670
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: We are in London. It's November sixth teenth of twenty

671
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: twenty seven. When the film starts again. We've had eighteen

672
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: years of human infertility, and the youngest person in the world,

673
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: baby Diego, has just been murdered.

674
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: London weirdly looks the.

675
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: Same, remotely the same in the world as we know

676
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: it now, but it's clear that it's a war zone.

677
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: There are, you know, buses with fencing over the windows.

678
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: There are lots of billboards and messaging saying that avoiding

679
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: fertility tests is a crime. The city is broken into

680
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: zones and people are kept in cages as they're trying

681
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: to enter. You occasionally see a religious person with a

682
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: sign that says infertility is God's punishment. There are ads

683
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: for something called Quietus. You Decide When is the ad

684
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: You Decide When, And it's actually you decide when to

685
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: kill yourself because this is assisted suicide and it's not

686
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: only real in this world, but it's encouraged. That's how

687
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: bad the world is that they're like, we know you

688
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: want to kill yourself, so maybe we just help you

689
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: do that. There's also a militant group called Fishes and

690
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: they are at war with the government and they will

691
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: be until the government recognizes equal rights for every immigrant

692
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: in Britain. So this is the world that we're in.

693
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: I think I love movies like this where you have

694
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: to pay attention to the background as much as the foreground,

695
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: because the background is giving a lot of information. The

696
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: background is giving you information about how people live, how

697
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: people feel, and what is actually happening to them, which

698
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: is exemplified and that point is punctuated when we see

699
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: Theo our main character played by Clive Owen, going about

700
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: his day getting a coffee, walking out of the cafe,

701
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: and then a minute later, as he's putting his sugar

702
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 2: in on the street, the cafe is bombed. And he

703
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: works for the Ministry of Energy, so he goes to

704
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: work and he always he's kind of funny to see

705
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: him go through the check of security checkpoints because he

706
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: always travels with a fit the booze and he just

707
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: drinks all the time, which again is its own note

708
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: on how people are living in this world.

709
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got his like cigarettes and his ass pocket,

710
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: a whiskey and absolutely a couple of little keys. I

711
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: was like, man, this guy's like he's like really feeling

712
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 1: it right now.

713
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: He is constantly in it, in it, and he weirdly

714
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: uses baby Diego's death as a reason to leave work,

715
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: even though he later points out that he thought Diego

716
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: was a fucking prick, but not the bombing, which it

717
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 2: kind of emphasizes for me how normalized violence has become

718
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: in this world.

719
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Diego I thing was like really confusing to

720
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: me at first because I was like, okay, the young

721
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: like they're like, baby Diego has died, and I was like,

722
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: how old is baby Diego? And I was like because

723
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, he was walking and talking,

724
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: and I'm like, but he's a baby. He's not a

725
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: baby's he's an eighteen year old, but they just call

726
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: him baby is it? Like baby Driver?

727
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 2: He was just the last person to be born before

728
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: all this infertility hit.

729
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah. And then eventually you start figuring it

730
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: out and you're like, oh shit, that's actually really an

731
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: intense concept.

732
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that this like eighteen year old douchebag is famous

733
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: for just having been born last. Yeah, absolutely wild. And

734
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: then you know, THEO kind of leaves work and we

735
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: get to see a little bit more of this world

736
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 2: when he goes to visit Jasper.

737
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Now.

738
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: Jasper is played by Michael Caine. He's a former he's

739
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: a former political cartoonist. He lives in the country with

740
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: his nonverbal wife Janis, who is a former photojournalist. And

741
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: as they're kind of driving to Jasper's house, you see

742
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: weird images like horses being burnt at random. But Jasper's

743
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: kind of still the same guy he's always been, Like

744
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: he's genuinely making pull my finger jokes in the car

745
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: as like a refugee bus is going past them, and

746
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: he does comment on it, you know, he comments that,

747
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: you know, after all of these folks make their way

748
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: to England, our government treats them like roaches and how

749
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: you know, they're kind of having this common that exemplifies

750
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: Jasper's weird, hopeless hopefulness and Theo's absolute just he's just

751
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: completely apathetic. So they're talking about something called the Human

752
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: Project and it's this group that might have discovered the

753
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: cure for infertility, and Theo's like, yeah, that's a who cares,

754
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Like even if they did, the world's already gone to shit.

755
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: Like he's just very apathetic. I think it's funny that

756
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 2: Jasper's driveway is concealed again. It also translates how dangerous

757
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: this world is that they're living in that he has

758
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: to cover up his driveway and they're having a very

759
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: normal conversation about whether or not THEO is dating while

760
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: they're removing branches. But it's again like this kind of

761
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: extra safety measure that has to be taken. And Jasper,

762
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: let me tell you something else about Jasper. Jasper is

763
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: smoked the fuck out all the time. He grows his

764
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: own weed. One strain is called strawberry cough, and so

765
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: he after THEO takes a hit, He's like, go ahead

766
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: and cough like cough, cough cough. So THEO coughs, He's

767
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 2: like it tastes it. It tastes like strawberry. Like That's

768
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: how he spent any time.

769
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: Yes, he is a political cartoonist. I think that bears

770
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: an extra.

771
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Repeating in a world where political cartoonists no longer seem

772
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: to exist either.

773
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but just think of the like counterculture guy that

774
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: just like never left exactly.

775
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's got his like little cardigans and his

776
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: whole house is very like sixties hippie vibe for sure.

777
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: And I love it and I want to move into it.

778
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: And that is who I aspire to be in my

779
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: elder years.

780
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: Is Michael Caine from Children. Yeah you told you actually

781
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: sent me like a little clip and said this is

782
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: Michael Kaine's finest role. Fight me. I think it is.

783
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean it, man, he brings something to this role.

784
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: Previously unseen in his career and I think what he's

785
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: bringing is a filth and I love it. And you

786
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: kind of notice at one point that Janice Jasper's wife

787
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: is staring at this photo and in the photo is THEO,

788
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: the actress Julian Moore and a baby. And so soon

789
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 2: we learn that THEO and Julian is her character's name,

790
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: were married and their baby, Dylan died. So THEO wakes

791
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: up in his apartment. We see him walk to work,

792
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: so we also see more of the police state, which

793
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: is citizens being asked for their ID cards, refugees looking terrified,

794
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: and then THEO is kidnapped. He's just thrown into a van.

795
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: This is where we learned that Julian, his ex wife,

796
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: is the leader of the Fishes, and she has grabbed

797
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: him because she needs transit papers for a refugee, a

798
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: young girl, and she knows that Theo's cousin Nigel can

799
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: help and she'll pay THEO five thousand dollars to do it.

800
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: Now.

801
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: Luke Chewettel Edgiapoor is also in the van and gives

802
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: THEO instructions on how to reach them via message board,

803
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: so he's also part of this group. The fishes. There's

804
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: a lot of beautiful imagery, like beautiful, weird, destructive imagery

805
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: of theo kind of riding to go see in a

806
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: car to go see Nigel, and I noticed that as

807
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: a past Buckingham Palace, everything seems completely sunny and normal

808
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: at Buckingham Palace. The horses are out, the guards are out,

809
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: it's clean. And then he just slides into this part

810
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: of the world right past the Palace, where everything is

811
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: just crumble, destruction, gray, dirty, decay. So again, the imagery

812
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: of this film was incredibly important to kind of solidifying

813
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: the world that most people are living in. And of

814
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: course everything seems sunny and normal at Buckingham Palace because

815
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: the proletaria will always find a way to maintain their

816
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: wealth and status. But he gets to Nigel's house and

817
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: Nigel just casually has a statue of David in his

818
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: foyer and it's the actual statue and his cousin Nigel

819
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: is Danny Houston. Now, I know when we've talked about

820
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: Danny Houston in the past, I think I said during Birth,

821
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: that movie Birth that we covered, that it was the

822
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: hottest he'd ever look.

823
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: I take it back immediately, I was gonna say, you

824
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: got a thank for Danny Houston.

825
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: I think I have a thing for Danny Houston. I

826
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: don't know where it came from, but he is the

827
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: hottest he's ever looked in this movie, just jeans and

828
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: a T shirt, hanging out at a weird house.

829
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: I met him once. Well, I'm sorry Bury the lead. Yes,

830
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: just you know Finny's classic movie Streets and that's all

831
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: I'll say. No, I'm kidding. It was very quick. It

832
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: was like a two second nice to meet you. That's it.

833
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: In a green room at the TCL Chinese in Hollywood,

834
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: that's it.

835
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Holy shit.

836
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: But to your point, he seems like your type.

837
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: I'll just say he's a fine looking man and he's

838
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: got it going on in this movie. In the limited

839
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: amount that we see him, he's tall, little gruff, little gruff.

840
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: I like it.

841
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: And look, Nigel is out here saving art. His son

842
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: is that guy Chuck from Gossip Girl. Forgive me for

843
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: not knowing the actress real name because I'd never actually

844
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: watched Gossip Girl. And THEO kind of lies to Nigel

845
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: and he's like, Hey, I met this girl and she

846
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: needs to get to Brighton, so I need these transit papers,

847
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 2: and as we're having this conversation does like a Pink

848
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: Floyd pig balloon just flying in the background, which is

849
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: again just like all these moments of cognitive dissonance happening.

850
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: If you're a fan of Pink Floyd or The Wall,

851
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 2: you'll understand what that means, that that dissonant moment means.

852
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: But at that point, THEO asked Nigel, like, why do

853
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: you keep doing this? Why are you saving all this art?

854
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: There's not going to be anyone around to see it.

855
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: And Nigel just looks at him and says, you know what,

856
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: I just don't think about it. And again it's like

857
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: this fucked up moment of clarity of Oh, this is

858
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: how people persist in this world. They just don't think

859
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: about it. They collect, they carry on, they do what

860
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: they've always done. They don't think about helping, they don't

861
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: think about fighting, they don't think about getting involved. Yeah,

862
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: they just keep going. And let me just say that

863
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 2: is what's happening now the most part. In a lot

864
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: of parts of the world, people are just not thinking

865
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: about it. So THEO leaves and he meets with Luke

866
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: and he's like, look, I've got these papers, but they're

867
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: limited papers, which means I have to transport this girl myself.

868
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: And again, very strange to see THEO going about his

869
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: normal life, like he's going to pubs and you know,

870
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: gambling on at a dog track, and like he's just

871
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: kind of doing his own thing as he's trying to

872
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: prepare for this moment. Then he gets to meet the

873
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 2: girl that he's helping to transport, and he meets Key

874
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: k Ee is her name, and Miriam, who's kind of

875
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: her minder. And Miriam looks like if you ever watched

876
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely Fabulous, and do you remember that episode where Patsy

877
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: kind of has this experience where she has to go

878
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: back and think about her own birth and her mother,

879
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: and there's just like a woman in like draped clothing,

880
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: just like undulating near her. That is what Miriam looks like. Like,

881
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: Miriam is that lady tuite and Key who is this

882
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: gorgeous refugee, like this tidy, little, gorgeous black girl. Then

883
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: we learn in this car they're having this conversation driving

884
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: through the country that THEO used to be an activist

885
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: and that's how he met Julianne. And they're kind of

886
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: having this fun moment where they're passing a ping pong

887
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: ball back and forth between their mouth and something that

888
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: only they can do. And as they're doing this, a

889
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: burning car is careening down the hill, crashes into a

890
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: hill and just blocks their path as dozens of people

891
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: pour out of the woods and attack the car. So

892
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: again two seconds before they're having this lovely moment, and

893
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: now they're in complete crisis. One of the guys on

894
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: the bike, on this motor bike that's chasing them as

895
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: they're backing away from the scene, shoots into the car,

896
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: shoots Julian in the neck and kills her. So they

897
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: do get away. They go to the woods and kind

898
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: of leave Julian's body there, and we finally see theo

899
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,479
Speaker 2: cry for the first time as they're leaving her body

900
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: in the woods. He's again been very apathetic, very closed

901
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: off until that moment, but we finally see him and

902
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: have some emotion, and it's a reminder that like, oh yeah,

903
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: you have to have feelings, Like you can't just shut

904
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: all of your feelings out as you try to make

905
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: your way in the world. And that's something else that's

906
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: missing from this world is emotion. Emotion is deeply missing

907
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: from this world. So they get They get to the

908
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: safe house, which is this farm where the fishes are located,

909
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: and they vote for a new leader, and the new

910
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: leader is Luke. They decide it's too dangerous to take

911
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: THEO back to London. He gets to wash up at

912
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: the farm and then we see that Tomas, who's the

913
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: guy in charge of watching him, is also the Roxande

914
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: guy from Mulan Rouge. Oh, you don't have to wear

915
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: that dress tonight. I love that guy. I love that guy.

916
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: I love that scene. And Ke is talking to THEO.

917
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: She's like, I want to talk to THEO. Juliane told

918
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: me he's the only person in the world that I

919
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: can trust, and he said he would help her get

920
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: to the boat if anything went wrong. And they're trying

921
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: to get to this boat called the Tomorrow, which again

922
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: loaded with meaning you know, get to Tomorrow, get to Tomorrow,

923
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: and he's super resistant. He's like, look, stay at this

924
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: fucking farm. I can't do that, Like this is too

925
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: much for me. I just watch my ex wife get

926
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 2: shot in the goddamn neck. And then Key takes off

927
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: her shirt and shows him that she's eight months pregnant,

928
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: and again she's the first person to be pregnant in

929
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 2: nineteen years and she's scared because and I would be too.

930
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: Do people even know what to do with pregnancy anymore?

931
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: So THEO can't get over the miracle of it, and

932
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of like it rocks him into a different

933
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: protective mode. So there's a He's like, all right, I

934
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: have to I think I have to help this girl.

935
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 2: But there's a problem now. And the problem is that

936
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: everyone in the car as they drove away from the

937
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 2: scene has now been identified and they're on the news.

938
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: So the police are looking for Key, and Theo's first

939
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 2: instinct is, let's make this pregure and see public.

940
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: It will protect her.

941
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: People will be excited about the fact that there's a

942
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: baby about to be born. Everyone else is like, nope,

943
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: the government's going to come in and swipe that baby

944
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 2: because Key is an immigrant, so they're saving grace for

945
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: fertility is an immigrant, a young immigrant woman, and everyone

946
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: knows how that's going to go down. So he decides

947
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: she's going to have her baby at the farm and

948
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: then she'll get to the Human Project. She'll get to

949
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: the boat the tomorrow later. So now THEO has to

950
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: stay because he's committed to protecting her until she gets

951
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: to this boat. Now, later that night, two guys who

952
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: were on the motorcycle that killed Julian show up at

953
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: the farm and we slowly start to realize that this

954
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: gang of attackers was actually paid to attack them, specifically

955
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: to kill Julian. So Luke was in on it, and

956
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: he planned this whole thing so that he could be

957
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: elevated to the leader of the fishes. THEO overhears all

958
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: of this, and he here overhears them say they're going

959
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: to move Key to Bristol tomorrow and kill him. So

960
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: he goes and tells Key what's up, and Key and

961
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: Miriam decide to go with Theo. He makes an escape

962
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: from the farm by dismantling some of the engines of

963
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: the cars that are there. It's kind of a funny

964
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: scene as he's trying to get away because he's pushing

965
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: a car down a hill that won't start and they

966
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: roll it down, so it's like a very slow chase

967
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: scene where they're rolling this car downhill and trying to

968
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: jumpstart it.

969
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: That really stressed me out. It was stressful. God, there's

970
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: so many moments in.

971
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: This film that are just pure stress and that is

972
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: definitely one of them. So now they get this car

973
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: started finally, and again there is some discussion about the

974
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: deeper meaning of some of the imagery of this in

975
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: both of our films. I discovered this week as we're watching,

976
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: because THEO is doing all of this barefoot. He loses

977
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: his shoes constantly in this movie. He constantly does not

978
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: have a safe footing in this film. But they get

979
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: into the car and then they go to Jasper's house

980
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: and Jasper's like, Yo, what are you fucking talking about?

981
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: There's a pregnant person in my house right now. And

982
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: Keith is actually really funny, like at first she's like,

983
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call the baby Froley, and Feel's like, what

984
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: the fuck are you talking about? And then she decides

985
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: she wants to call it Bazooka. Like she's just very,

986
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: very funny in parts of this, but she's also very

987
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: What I like about this character, she's very direct and forceful.

988
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: She makes decisions, and she knows that she has autonomy,

989
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: and so everyone around her might be in a swirling

990
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: mess of what do we do? What do we do?

991
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: But she's making her own decisions in the midst of this.

992
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: So we get to hear the story as she's talking

993
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: to Jasper, we get to hear the story about how

994
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: Theo's baby Dylan died, how he lost his faith, Like

995
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: just a little bit more depth about this character. But

996
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: then the Fishes find them and Jasper refuses to go

997
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: with them, but he gives Janice quietest before he goes

998
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: outside to greet them, so he's kind of protected her

999
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: in a way where he's assured her ending in a

1000
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: calm way. But then Jasper goes outside to meet the fishes,

1001
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to tell you what happens beyond this.

1002
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: I will say that Miriam Key and Theo are on

1003
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: the run now, and we don't know will the baby

1004
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: be born or will it live? Why does Ceo keep

1005
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: losing his shoes? Are the Fishes going to catch up

1006
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: with them? Is there going to be a further threat

1007
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 2: or further danger? You got to watch the movie, and

1008
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: the ending of this movie brings me to tears every time.

1009
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: I think there's something so beautiful that they're able to

1010
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: pull out of the extreme violence that we're seeing throughout

1011
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: the movie, and I just I really love it. I

1012
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: think that again, when I first saw the movie, I

1013
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: was struck by the storytelling, by how creative it was,

1014
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: by how intricate, how intricately they were able to express

1015
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: the horrors of war quite frankly. But now watching it,

1016
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm kind of motivated in a different way, and I

1017
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 2: still love the film. But I think it's was never

1018
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: meant to be an instruction booklet or instruction video, and

1019
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: it's strange to see that it's kind of we're kind

1020
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: of making that world a reality.

1021
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very dark and it's very moody, like the colors,

1022
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: the lighting, everything's very moody. It really is like a

1023
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it just is depressing, but it's also, like,

1024
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, a great film, and I'm glad I finally

1025
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: watched it. I was always getting it confused with maybe

1026
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: it's like City of Lost Children or like oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1027
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, which I know there are two totally different movies,

1028
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't know why I felt

1029
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: like I was always getting this confused with another film,

1030
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: which is probably why I never saw it. But like,

1031
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: I love Alfonso Corone, so that's like it's just I'm

1032
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: glad I fixed that error in my movie. Watching I

1033
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: cannot believe this was made in two thousand and six. God,

1034
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: that is so long ago, now, what the fuck almost?

1035
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean it's eighteen years ago.

1036
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy time would go.

1037
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: And I think it's also it's fascinating to me to

1038
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: think about babies as the central crux of what's wrong

1039
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: with the world not having them, because right now we're

1040
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: in a moment where having them is contributing to the

1041
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 2: climate crisis. But then to look at a world we're

1042
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: not having them contributes to a completely different crisis is

1043
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: very interesting and kind of you know, what babies represent

1044
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: in the scenario of this film is just again fascinating

1045
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: to me, And it has kind of a there's kind

1046
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: of a real like Gaya Mother Earth vibe about pregnancy

1047
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: in this film and how you know, how it's revered

1048
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 2: or was revered, i should say, or wants to be

1049
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: revered because of the sheer absence of it. So like

1050
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: the absence of to me, and again this might be

1051
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: going a little too deep, but to me, the absence

1052
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: of femininity in the traditional way is the crux of

1053
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: the problems of the Earth in this film. Yeah, and honestly,

1054
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: on our planet, the fact that we don't listen to women,

1055
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: in the fact that we don't value our least, the

1056
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: fact that we don't value our most vulnerable people. It's

1057
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: a big fucking problem. And the fact that the emotion

1058
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: is completely missing from most of this movie. You know,

1059
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: it's it's the femininity, it's it's we're missing it and

1060
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 2: it makes the world a much much more terrible place

1061
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: to live in.

1062
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, good choice for your theme.

1063
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: Thank you. And that also leads nicely into your movie,

1064
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: which is also a great choice for our theme.

1065
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. This is like, this is basically like worst

1066
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: case scenario for us. This entire franchise is like we're

1067
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: careading towards this, folks, Are we gonna notice before it

1068
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: gets to this again? The whole thing. So my movie

1069
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: for the theme, eh, maybe we deserve it aka climate

1070
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: change Crisis on Screen is from twenty fifteen. It was

1071
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: written by George Miller, Brendan McCarthy and Nico letheris directed

1072
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: by the Goat George Miller. It's called Mad Max Fairy

1073
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: Road In.

1074
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: This Wasteland, I am the one who runs from both

1075
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: the living.

1076
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: And the dead God. I've been wanting to talk about

1077
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: this movie for a long time, right, Yeah, uh so,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm sure everybody has seen all the other

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Speaker 1: Mad Max movies, have you, because this is technically the

1080
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: fourth in the series. Uh if not, I'm going to

1081
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: go through a little bit of the history of it

1082
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: just because you need to be or if you've not

1083
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 1: seen it and you want to know about this movie,

1084
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: you've got to be oriented with like the Mad Max

1085
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: universe a little bit. Right, But if I were to

1086
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: do a one sentence synopsis for Mad Max Fury Road,

1087
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: it'd be female Death Wish And they should have made

1088
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: the Death Wish movies with a woman. Why didn't they

1089
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: do that? Because that would be so awesome. Sorry, that's

1090
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: about as good as I can do right now.

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: I would go that remake. I would do that remake

1092
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: right what?

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01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: I want to see the Death Wish movies with Charlie's. Frankly,

1094
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: if Charlee's was available, I would fucking watch the shit

1095
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: out of that, wouldn't you?

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01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: All day? Every day? She is phenomenal in this movie.

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Speaker 1: Sure, listen, I think I gotta say, I think Charlie's

1098
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: is my favorite action movie one of my favorite action

1099
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: movie stars period, but definitely my favorite action movie woman.

1100
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely to the point where I'm so invested in her

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Speaker 1: as Furiosa. That when the newest one, which we'll talk

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01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: about in just a second, When the newest one came

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01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: out and I realized that she was not going to

1104
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Speaker 1: be Furiosa, because why could she be? This is like

1105
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: a you know, it's like child equal. Yeah, it's a prequel.

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01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: It's like Furiosa is like ten years old. At one

1107
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: point I was when I found realized that she was

1108
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: not going to be that character. I was very suspect.

1109
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know if I can

1110
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:46,959
Speaker 1: watch this shit.

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01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: I didn't. I couldn't bring myself to see it something

1112
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: called Furiosa without her in it.

1113
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like really really and it really made

1114
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: me realize, like how invested I am in her as

1115
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: this character? And I have to tell you the famous story.

1116
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: I think I talked about it on a bonus episode,

1117
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: but the famous story about watching the newest Mad Max

1118
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: movie was that we went on opening night and somebody

1119
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: threw a lit firecracker in the movie. While while it

1120
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: was happening, it was almost exactly an hour into the film. Freakin'

1121
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: Anya Taylor Joy hadn't even shown up yet, and all

1122
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this fucking like fireball comes launching like

1123
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: through the air and hits like the front rows of

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01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: the theater, and everybody like freaked out and we were

1125
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: like is it a bomb? Like what the fuck?

1126
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: I mean?

1127
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: It was like actually kind of scary for a second,

1128
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: even though I will say we as humans are so

1129
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: fucking stupid, because literally what happened was this, the fireball

1130
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: flies through the air. Everyone jumps up and starts like

1131
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: running with that. Everybody stops, and I guess we were

1132
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: like waiting for it to explode or something. I don't know.

1133
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: We were all like waiting for the thing, that something

1134
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: to happen, even though we were already up in our

1135
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: seats and like heading towards the emergency. Like everybody was

1136
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: just like we need that confirmation, but this thing is

1137
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: to be scared. We live in a world of active shooters.

1138
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: Get out of there, I know. Having said that, so

1139
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: I only watched the movie and then I had to

1140
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: come back the week after and finish the second half,

1141
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: I will say that I think that it's better than

1142
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: I initially thought it was going to be, considering that

1143
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: Charlie's isn't in it, because there's other people in it

1144
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: that now I'm like, hmmm, Pretorian Jack. Hmmm. That tell

1145
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: me more. I'll get to it in a second, because

1146
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: whoever played Praetorian Jack is now like on a crush list.

1147
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: I'll just have to say, look it up. Who was it?

1148
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I don't know. I've never saw him a

1149
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: day in my life. All I know is that his

1150
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: look in the movie. He looked like he was in

1151
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: fucking ultravox or like OMD. He looked like this like

1152
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: a eighties new romantic British singer, and he was wearing

1153
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: like post apocalyptic outfits. I don't know. It was very

1154
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: I was very stirred by it. So here's the bass

1155
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: story about the kind of Mad Max franchise. So you've

1156
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: got like Max, Mad Max, who was originally played by

1157
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson. You know, he is like a cop and

1158
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: a just dope be in Future in the Desert, which

1159
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: is you know, obviously filmed in Australia where there are

1160
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: like no little to no resources and it's just like

1161
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: a bad scene, right. He becomes a vigilante after his

1162
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: family is killed by a biker gang very death wish,

1163
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: and then throughout the movies that come after. So there's

1164
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: Mad Max. There's the Road Warrior, There's Beyond Thundernome, and

1165
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: then Ferry Road, and then of course the new one. Right,

1166
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: But throughout the movie is he continues to just sort

1167
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: of be this like emotionally scarred lone wolf, traversing the

1168
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: desert wasteland, helping out oppressed people who are at the

1169
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: utter mercy of evil leaders who are trying to control

1170
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: the Earth's resources. It's very boyfriend coded. I must say,

1171
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: everybody likes a quiet, sullen protector.

1172
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: Did you know, because I did not until I saw

1173
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 2: this film that his full name is mac Max Rokatansky.

1174
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: I did know that, and the only reason why I

1175
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: didn't say it is because I didn't know how to

1176
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: pronounce rocketan sky ever since I was in high school.

1177
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: Max Rock, I say rock Ski I was. That's the

1178
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: only reason why didn't say it. I didn't know that.

1179
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: And I love it. I love it. Yeah, So Mad Max.

1180
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: Fury Road obviously picks up after Thundernome, which is the

1181
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: third movie, and you'll notice that Max is not played

1182
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: by Mill Gibson and he is played by Tom Hardy.

1183
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: Are Lullaby King?

1184
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: What was?

1185
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 1: He? He reads stories to children and.

1186
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: Dogs, cbb's with the dog next to him. That's right

1187
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: with Teddy Bears.

1188
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, part of I think the reason

1189
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,959
Speaker 1: why it took George Miller so long to actually make

1190
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: Fury Road was because just production development hell essentially, but

1191
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: then also like what to do with mel Gibson? What

1192
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: are we doing with him? Because he's not a good

1193
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: guy and we want to keep this going, So who

1194
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: do we get? So Tom Hardy is now Max Okay,

1195
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: and essentially at the beginning of the film, he is

1196
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: essentially captured by this evil cult leader who's named a

1197
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: Morton Joe, and he is fucking terrifying.

1198
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 2: The visuals of this film are so scary.

1199
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looks like he's got a fucking octopus stuffed

1200
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 1: in his mouth. He's very, very scary. It's a lot

1201
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: of like I don't know, it just seems very steam

1202
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: punky to me, but like in a very scary, scary

1203
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: scary way, like not charming time traveling, but like I

1204
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: don't know, like weird old tech and a lot of

1205
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: like tubes being tied into people's fucking bodies and shit.

1206
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: It's like really scary to me. But that's a good

1207
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: that he needs to be an evil leader, right a Morton.

1208
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: Joe also has a gang of dudes who are called

1209
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: the war Boys, and I think you know what a

1210
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: war boy does. He is the one that they're all

1211
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: painted white, They've got no hair. They spray like what

1212
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: is it, like some weird like shit in their mouths.

1213
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: It's like a silver like like a can of silver

1214
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: spray paint.

1215
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 2: They are the most fucked up characters I have seen

1216
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: in a very long time.

1217
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: Yes, totally scary, and there's so many of them. And

1218
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: then you know, the one of the most famous ones

1219
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: in the film who ends up kin of joining the

1220
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: good side is who's played by Nicholas Holt. And this

1221
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,440
Speaker 1: is so crazy to me because, Okay, here's my trajectory

1222
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: with Nicholas Holt's career. Okay, he was like a baby

1223
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: and about a boy. He was in a single Man,

1224
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: and then he was a war boy. That's the only

1225
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: thing I know about him. Oh, don't forget.

1226
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 2: He was also a filthy teenager in Skins.

1227
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: I never saw that, so I don't know my own mythology.

1228
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: So I only know him in three things. So he

1229
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: was a child, He was in a gay film made

1230
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 1: by Tom Ford and then a war boy. No disrespect you, sir,

1231
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying like that's I was. I was

1232
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: fucking shocked when I saw you as a war boy.

1233
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: So the war Boys are insane, uh, and they're the

1234
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: thugs of this Morton Joe character. Okay, So here's the thing,

1235
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: Mad Max or Max is a universal blood daughter, so

1236
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, basically, Morton Joe's like, you're gonna have to

1237
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: rehab my war boys with your blood. And essentially at

1238
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: a certain point, because I'm not gonna go like super

1239
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: beat by being about this movie because I feels like

1240
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: whatever it's I'm just gonna give you the general points.

1241
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: It's a lot of action too, so it's like hard

1242
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: to describe. Yeah, very long action sequences, which are amazing.

1243
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in just a second. But eventually

1244
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: Max is introduced to the Queen of our days and knights,

1245
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: the Imperator Furiosa, aka the driver of the war Rig. Okay,

1246
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: and here's a little background about Furiosa, and I gotta

1247
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: be honest, a lot of this was played out in

1248
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: the in the Newest Film. So if you haven't seen

1249
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,879
Speaker 1: the Newest Film, obviously you're not gonna know all this info,

1250
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: but just to give you a little bit of background

1251
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: about who Furiosa is and why she ends up being

1252
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: the Queen of our days and knights. So she was

1253
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: born in this place called the Green Place, okay, and

1254
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: this is like one of the only decent places in

1255
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: this horrible dystopian, dusty, waterless future that we're all careening

1256
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 1: towards as a society. It's a matriarchy, which is wonderful.

1257
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: It's run by the voul Vallini, who are a gang

1258
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: of these like fucking amazing older women who will fucking

1259
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: kill you in between the eyeballs.

1260
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: I love that one woman who is like, I've killed

1261
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: everyone that's ever stepped foot here, right right in the neck,

1262
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: which is like I killed shot right between the eyes.

1263
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: When I first was introduced to the Vallini through this film,

1264
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: When I first saw this movie for the first time

1265
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: the weekend it fucking came out in twenty fifteen, That's

1266
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: how excited I was. I was like, this is these

1267
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: are my people. As you know, as I've gone on

1268
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: record with talking about Faster Pussycat Kill Kill being my favorite,

1269
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: like the movie that introduced me to movies. I love

1270
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: a woman in the desert. Who's fucking shooting dudes killing

1271
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: killing guys in the desert? Like that was such a

1272
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: source of power for me. Watching this for the first time,

1273
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be one? How do

1274
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: I join? They're so cool, the Volvolini Volvolini. I want

1275
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: to be one.

1276
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: How do I join?

1277
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: How do I was like, listen, I can. I could

1278
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: wear khaki like a motherfucker. I'll just wrap a couple

1279
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: of scarves around my face.

1280
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: You know how to plant seeds, you know how to

1281
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: protect seeds and all that kind of like you're good

1282
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: at gardening.

1283
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: I've written a vespa before, but I've never written a

1284
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, like a crotch rocket. I could learn very

1285
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: you can do it. You can, So anyway I want

1286
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: to join. Its basically what I saw to myself and

1287
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 1: I saw this movie for the first time. So anyway,

1288
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Speaker 1: they they run this joint called the Green Plants, and

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: it's basically the only place in this arid wasteland where

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: there's vegetation. And essentially what happens is Firiosa's mom is

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Speaker 1: part of this crew. As a child, she's kidnapped by

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 1: some evil bikers and then she's forced to become the

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 1: adopted daughter of their leader, who in the most recent

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01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: one is played by Chris Hemsworth. But basically, you know,

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: so she gets kidnapped and he's forced to join this

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Speaker 1: biker crew, and then she's essentially disguised as a teenage

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Speaker 1: boy and becomes essential to building the war rig, which

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01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: is basically this giant indestructible tanker that carries water or

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Speaker 1: whatever kind of like precious resources between these settlements. Right.

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,440
Speaker 1: Then the settlements are kind of run by these dictators

1301
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: and other bad bad dudes, right, And what happens with

1302
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: Pretorian Jack in the newest one is that she meets him,

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01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: he teaches her how to drive it, and then they

1304
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 1: eventually fall for each other and they conspire to escape

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: and they get caught and she loses her arm, and

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01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: then she becomes the full Furiosa in that moment, because

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01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: this is when she shaves her fucking head, puts some

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01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: black shit over her eyes, and then builds herself a

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: mechanical arm. And this is where why, this is how

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Speaker 1: we get to Fury Road. This is the full, fully

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: realized Furiosa. From all of that mythology makes sense, gotcha? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So now we're up to speed with these characters. Now,

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the war Rig because the

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 1: war Rig is a character. It is single handedly I

1315
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: think I might have said this on a previous episode,

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01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: but it is single handedly one. If not no, it

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01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: is the most fun vehicle in movie history to me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go on record. I'm gonna go on

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: record right now and say this. The war Rig is

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01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: better than the DeLorean, the cars in Vanishing Point and

1321
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: Smoking the Bandit Christine and the Batmobile.

1322
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 2: Sorry, just demolished every possible fandom, like, oh you like cars,

1323
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: fuck you war Rig.

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: Only the DeLorean is a fucking bicycle compared to the

1325
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: war Rig. Are you fucking joking?

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01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: It's pee Wee Herman's bicycle from Peewee's Big Adventure compared

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01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: to the war Rig. Yeah.

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01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like the ten speed that gets flattened in

1329
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: the Rushmore by the Bill Murray character. Are you fucking joke?

1330
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: The war Rig is like a fucking epic. It's like this.

1331
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: I love how it's just like giant Frankenstein of cars

1332
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: and trucks that are like fused together, and then they've

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01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: got these like little secret compartments and shit. We're like

1334
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: like people are like popping in and out of a

1335
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: like you can't fuck with me. Like I'm you know,

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01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: it's so great. It's like a little winch Chester mystery

1337
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: house on wheels. That's like coueenis with desert and you

1338
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: can't fucking destroy it.

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01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: They're like at one point where the somebody throws fire

1340
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 2: on it, like on the hood, Like they throw these

1341
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: bombs at it and it puts out its own fire.

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01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, incredible. I could literally watch people both jump

1343
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: onto and get thrown off this thing all day, like

1344
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: honestly all day, like but like they're always trying to

1345
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: like launch people onto it, and then they all fucking

1346
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: fall off, like cause there's somebody popping out of a

1347
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: hole being like exactly, get the fuck off my war rig.

1348
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: It's so good, dude. I also love this whole world.

1349
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 2: Everyone carries their steering wheel with them, yes, so like

1350
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: important parts of the war rig just come off, yes,

1351
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: like the gear shift and the fucking steering wheel at

1352
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: very choice moments.

1353
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: And here here's the most badass thing about it. So

1354
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: the war rig has a kill switch that was set

1355
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: by Furiosa. She did this shit that prevents it from

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01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: being driven by like anybody but her essentially, and it's

1357
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: this like sequence of the ignition where you're basically like,

1358
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: it's like an updown up, dunc aba b Stark type

1359
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: of thing where it's like, you know what I mean,

1360
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: like an old Nintendo thing where you're just like, well,

1361
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: you gotta know the sequence or else you can't even

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01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: start this motherfucker. And I said it that way. And

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: if you try, if you try to drive it, you're

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01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: basically gonna burn the up the gas. You might get

1365
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: ten feet. Yeah, You're not gonna fucking touch this motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: And I love that she is such a badass for that.

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: She's like, no one's stealing this motherfucking thing, and you

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01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: gotta kill me.

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01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: Then a world where all they do is take shit.

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01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 2: It's so smart.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's incredible. And watching her drive this Warwick

1372
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: is literally one of the hottest things I've ever seen

1373
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: in my life period.

1374
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: Like the way she just stares at do that out

1375
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: of the window, like, oh, you're gonna try it.

1376
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: It's so good. Honestly, like I wish I wish that

1377
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: it was me. I wish that this was me. I've

1378
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: never wanted I've never come close to being like to

1379
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: doing cosplay or like embodying like a fictitious character in

1380
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: a film. But this this is like the one thing

1381
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I wish, I wish just me.

1382
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: Millie is quitting the podcast to become real life Furiosa.

1383
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: God, she is so awesome. So Furiosa's mission in this

1384
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: movie though, is that she's trying to help a group

1385
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: of these young, beautiful women who were forced to be

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01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: mothers for Morton Joe and to escape their lives. Right,

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01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: So basically she's like, come to the plays, you're we're

1388
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: not gonna make you have babies by this fucking disgusting

1389
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: octopus man's guy, right Like, And that's that's a huge

1390
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: part of this movie, is the like women who are

1391
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: forced to bear children. So there's this fertility thing happening

1392
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: in my movie too, which is interesting.

1393
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: And mother's milk is such an important part of your film.

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01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 2: They had, like there's this one scene where Morton Joe

1395
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: they kind of show what his actual layer looks like

1396
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: and there's just all these women hooked up to like

1397
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: they're lactating and there's hooked up to pumps. Yeah, it's

1398
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 2: like terrible women's bodies are used in this world is wild.

1399
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look these women are Zoe Kravitz and Riley

1400
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: Q and Rosie Huntington Whiteley who isn't she married to

1401
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: Jason Statham?

1402
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: I think so, I mean protect them, right, but there

1403
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 2: are super fucking models. It is such a stark con

1404
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 2: dressed to most people you see in this film, where

1405
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: they're just like they're dressed in what And again there's

1406
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,560
Speaker 2: like what's being translated there in terms of like you know,

1407
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 2: they're always dressed in white and this kind of virginal purity,

1408
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: and you know their their property of a Morton Joe,

1409
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: and they're protected property.

1410
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: Because they're beautiful. It's it's interesting. Yeah, well, and like

1411
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: I think it comes from maybe this idealized global mother, right,

1412
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: like the vision of the of the perfect pure mother,

1413
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: uh and and and how we want her to continue

1414
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: the perfect species or something. It's like very weird, interesting context.

1415
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: Like it's just to me, I feel like there's there's

1416
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: a reason for this, right, like obviously, and I don't know,

1417
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: it's it's just such an it's just such an interesting

1418
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: little bit of the story. But the end of my

1419
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: women's study's paper.

1420
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 2: So.

1421
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Max at some point escapes his fucking

1422
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: fate with these guys because he's basically a blood dodor

1423
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: for all the war boys. He's like, fuck this shit.

1424
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 1: And then he joins the Furiosa campaign and they work

1425
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: together to try to find the escape in a place

1426
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: to establish a new civilization essentially. And I know that

1427
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: there are a lot of stories out there about this

1428
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: movie was really grueling to film. In fact, I feel

1429
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: like all the Mad Max movies were really grueling to film,

1430
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's kind of a signature of

1431
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: them and maybe why certain people want to take a

1432
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: crack at them, because it is like an intense experience.

1433
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: It's very physical obviously conditionally you're in the desert, et cetera.

1434
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of talk about how Charlie

1435
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: Throne and Tom Hardy fought a lot during the movie,

1436
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 1: and I've read that basically like Tom Hardy, basically Tom

1437
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: Hardy apologize for his like method acting assholeishness in the

1438
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: film because I guess, you know, it created a nasty

1439
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: working environment and you know, him and Charlie's were fighting

1440
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 1: a lot, and they were also in an intense scenario

1441
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: making this film. But I've read interviews that came out

1442
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: semi recently where they both now they have a lot

1443
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: of distance from it, and they're kind of like it

1444
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: was terrible in the moment, but you know, we're better

1445
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: people for it, and apologies and this kind of stuff.

1446
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, it goes without saying that they

1447
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: had a hard time making this movie. However, they to

1448
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 1: me their relationship in this film is like it's very chaste,

1449
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 1: but it's also they're very protective of each other, and

1450
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my god, like this is this

1451
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: is very relationship coded. I keep saying coded, but it's

1452
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: it's true, Like I love them together and as much

1453
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: as like, yeah, like I said, and it's they had

1454
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: their issues, but like the two of them were just

1455
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 1: great together on screen as these characters that's so dynamic,

1456
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: and especially Shirley's. I mean, listen, this movie I think

1457
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 1: is really interesting because I would say it's feminist. I'm

1458
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: calling it a feminist film. I believe that this is

1459
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: not even a movie about mad Max. It's about Furioso.

1460
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 2: Mad Max is a conduit for all the action, but

1461
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 2: it's about her right for sure, And it's it's definitely

1462
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: a feminist film.

1463
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: I think.

1464
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,440
Speaker 2: When it came out, I remember a friend of mine

1465
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: said that, she said, oh, it's like a feminist film,

1466
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: like you know, and I had just seen it and

1467
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: I said, well, it's feminist in comparison to everything that's

1468
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 2: out right now, but maybe not in the long run.

1469
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: And then I just very quickly changed my mind about

1470
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: that the more I thought about it, and then I

1471
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 2: saw it again and I was like, no, it is.

1472
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: It is.

1473
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: There's all the imagery is there, all of the messaging

1474
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 2: is there. It's one percent of feminist film and a

1475
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: great one. And it's also and it's not just in

1476
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:10,879
Speaker 2: the action. The editing is incredibly important to the feminist

1477
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: history of this film. Yeah, so I don't know if

1478
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 2: you were going to talk about that at all. But

1479
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: Margaret Sixel, who is married to George George Miller, did

1480
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 2: all the editing for this film, and she'd never edited

1481
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: an action movie before, which is why he wanted her

1482
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 2: to do it, because he was like, I want your

1483
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: viewpoint on this, I mean, and she was doing like

1484
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: Happy Feet and Babe before she did Mad Max Heary Road.

1485
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 2: But she went through and it was her. It was

1486
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: her idea to kind of have you know, all those

1487
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: vehicular stunts and all these extras and all like, she

1488
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 2: really made the movie look as intense as it was

1489
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: to make. And I think she looked at like almost

1490
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: five hundred hours of footage in order to edit it,

1491
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: and it took her like three months just to watch

1492
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 2: the footage alone. And she eventually went on to win

1493
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of awards. But he basically said, no, like,

1494
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 2: I want my wife to do this. She has a

1495
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: great eye, she's a great editor, and I don't see

1496
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 2: enough women in this field. And I think that she

1497
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 2: is since I've read interviews where she's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't consider gender when I'm editing or when I

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Speaker 2: do my job. I just do it. She's like, I

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Speaker 2: know it's important to George. I appreciate that, but she's like,

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Speaker 2: I just get in there and do my thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that someone with his pull, someone who

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Speaker 2: had his that caliber of director saying I want her

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Speaker 2: to do this kind of change the game for a

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Speaker 2: lot of women in that in those fields, in the

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Speaker 2: more production side of things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, honestly, like it is. I mean

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Speaker 1: she worked on the newest one too. I think there

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Speaker 1: there is a reason why that her story continued in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, because it's like, you know, obviously with with

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Speaker 1: some like he even though he had been wanting to

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Speaker 1: do the furiosis story for a long time. I felt

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Speaker 1: like the reaction that her character got from everyone when

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Speaker 1: this movie came out is the reason why they continued

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Speaker 1: that story with the prequel, you know, completely because you know,

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Speaker 1: for the longest time it was Max's story. And I

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Speaker 1: feel like the idea that a filmmaker can kind of

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Speaker 1: lean into this other component of the story and realize

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Speaker 1: that there's some other interesting character that needs to be

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Speaker 1: explored and that people really want for them to explore

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Speaker 1: is awesome.

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Speaker 2: Like who can tell the story in a fuller way?

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Speaker 1: Right? Because how many times have we seen these kind

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Speaker 1: of franchise movies where we're just seeing the same guy

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01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: for ten, eleven, twelve, fifteen movies and there's no evolution. Really,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think it's very smart that

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Speaker 1: that happened, and I feel like George Miller is a

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01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: great director. I feel like, yeah, having his his wife

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01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: be involved definitely played into it. And I just think

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Speaker 1: that I don't know, like the last two films I've

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Speaker 1: just I've listened. I've I love loved the Mad Max

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Speaker 1: movies since high school. I you know, begrudgingly say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, The Rude War is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: movies of all time because of the Mel Gibson shit.

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01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard. It's hard to like love these

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: movies knowing that he is who he is and that

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01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: maybe in a way that this is an extension of

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,919
Speaker 1: the universe that doesn't feel like super reliant on him

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01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: in a in a way, But like, I love those movies.

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01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm really, like, very very heavily invested into

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01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: this franchise. So maybe this is my Star Wars guys.

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01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I just love I love this movie.

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01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: I love this world. This was this was, you know,

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: the most successful one so far. I mean, I don't know,

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01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: I haven't I didn't read the box office stuff for

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01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: the newest one, but it definitely was the most critically

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01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: claimed one. I mean one oscars. It was probably the

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01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: most commercially successful one out of the franchise up to

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01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: that point. And it's a it's a masterpiece. It's kind

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01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 1: of like, I mean, people think about Fury Road in

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01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: the same way they think about Terminator two and meaning

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01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: that it's a sequel that ended up becoming the most

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01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: popular one or the right in, the most critically claimed one,

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01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: of the one that people really you know, got into

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01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: the most.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely you know, and it's it's definitely it is. It

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01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 2: is a good re entry point for me because I

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01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 2: will never fuck with mel Gibson again. Like the shit

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01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 2: he said was so vile, and he has said no

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01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: word of apology or indicated that he even gives a

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01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: shit about what happened to him and has continued to

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01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: find work, and I just don't think that's cool. So

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01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: I will never watch the og mad max Is again

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: because I just I cannot fuck with that guy. So

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Speaker 2: I like that there's something that reintroduces this world which

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01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 2: I loved. I love the world that was created without

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01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: having to involve him in it. And I think that,

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01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 2: you know, Tom Hardy was a great choice for this,

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01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: Charlie's Theren was an even better choice for this. I

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01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 2: love all everything that they've added to kind of punctuate it,

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01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 2: because this is a movie that is from the minute

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01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 2: it starts, it is the most high octane shit you've

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01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 2: ever seen on a screen. It's like the first thirty

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01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: to forty minutes of this film are just non stop,

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01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 2: and it takes so much to create that world and

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01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: to create that imagery and to create that just that

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01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: that tension. So I fucking love it. And I think

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01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 2: that the two things we haven't yet just discuss, which

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01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: are my most favorite parts of the fucking movie, go

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01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: for it.

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01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: The guitar guy.

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01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so there is a rig that is the

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01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: music rig, and it's like all these guys playing drums

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01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 2: in the back, but then in the front on bungeee

1585
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: chords is this guy in like red old timey pajamas,

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01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 2: like the butt flap and just playing a guitar that

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01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: shoots fire. And when I tell you, the first time

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01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: I saw this, I lost my fucking mind. Yeah, they're

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01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: carrying their own soundtrack and it looks like that, and

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01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 2: this guy is bouncing. He is not a stable figure.

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01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: He is just constantly boyinging around the screen. And then

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01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 2: my other favorite were the pole boys. So they have

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01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 2: these guys on these long ass sticks that they just kind.

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01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: Of like.

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01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 2: They wave in the breeze and wave back and forth

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01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 2: and then just dip into cars and they try to

1597
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: dip onto the war rig and they're carrying chainsaws and shit.

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01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 2: It is diabolical, but it also drives home the point

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01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:52,839
Speaker 2: of how absolutely insane this world is. Where the threat

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Speaker 2: of violence comes from all angles. It comes from above,

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01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: it comes from below, it comes head on, like they

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01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: are constantly being besieged.

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01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is so like visually, so much going on

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01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 1: in this film, so much editing, so much in the background.

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01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the way it shot is really interesting too.

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01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just got a very like specific look

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01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: to it, and I don't know, I mean it's a

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01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 1: it's a feast of for the senses basically, and I

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01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why I love it so much.

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01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: I think that's part of the reason why it became

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01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 1: so popular. It's just because of these little touches. Yeah,

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01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: like the war the war Boys are so iconic. Like

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01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the year that this movie came out, like

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01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,639
Speaker 1: pretty much every dude I know dressed like a war

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01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: boy for Halloween. Like disturbing, I know, but it's it's true.

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01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 1: I mean everybody was like painting themselves white and wearing

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01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: fucking bonage pants and shit, and like like it became

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01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: like a thing. I mean it just was like, it's

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01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 1: just such an iconic movie truly, And yeah, I mean

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01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: and obviously like to for our theme. I kind of

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01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: feel like we are headed in this direction. I just

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01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: feel this, you know, like it's gonna get hot and

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01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: dusty real quick. It's already good that way, and I

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01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: just feel like we're gonna all be like fucking struggling

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01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 1: for resources. And I don't know, I as much as

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01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: this is a fun movie, it is a movie that

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01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: I love like sinking into the mythology about, I'm also like,

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01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be true soon, So.

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01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 2: Watch this and get some ideas for how to protect ourselves.

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01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 2: Because that's truly the reason I wanted to even discuss

1631
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: this is I think that or you know, discuss this

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01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,839
Speaker 2: as a theme is that I think that the Earth

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01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: is going to be okay. It is us who are

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01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 2: going to die. The Earth will shake us off like

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01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 2: ants and repair itself. Yes, but we are going to

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01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 2: die like horribly for what we have done to the earth. Yes,

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01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I just kind of feel like it's

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01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 2: worth remember that every day of my fucking life.

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01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Maybe we deserve it.

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01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 2: Maybe we deserve it. We're kind of Dick's to the earth.

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01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Well, on that note.

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01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: I can't believe how much of a fun this episode

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01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 2: was a head.

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01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:20,960
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