1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: We welcome you to episode number eleven of the best 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: podcast available on Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble and a 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: happy Friday to you and yours. Yesterday a brief practice. 4 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: We figured we would combo practice recaps with Friday's practice 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: and then we moved inside because we had to build 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: an arc if we stayed outside and practice. Uh. The 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: last couple of days and frankly the last six days, 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Gribble has been a challenge at best. I mean, this 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: week has been a roller coaster ride every day since Sunday, 10 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: and I just think that there there's been some some 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: positive to come out of this, and there's been a 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: lot of good things going, but it's just been there's 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: there's been something new every day that has basically made 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: the scheduled was written on paper at the beginning of 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: training camp worth the paper it's written, and I think 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: that they've had to adjust the schedule a lot. And 17 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think gives you a look at 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: the weather more than I do, But I don't know 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: for all the woods for Saturday yet either it's it's 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: not looking great, but but we'll see if the team 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: gets in a as scheduled to thirty practice on Saturday 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: before heading to the stadium on Sunday. Yeah, and frankly, 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: they need to get it in based on all the 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: adversity and the things that they've gone on. Uh, this 25 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: team needs a few more reps and work. Two weeks 26 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: out and we're approaching the point in time where it's 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: time to start installing and steme to start preparing for 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens as much as it is getting ready 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: for the NFL season. Well, and I mean this is 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: something we maybe haven't talked about as much now as 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: we would in previous years. But yeah, you're eight days 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: away from cutting your roster down. I mean, this is 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: the These are the important decisions. I feel like we 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: haven't even talked about that kind of looming thing to 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: begin with. We're talking more Ravens because it's so close. 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: But you know, you're you're making some quick decisions here 37 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: on on on some guys on the roster. So you 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: gotta get a look at those guys, make sure you 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: have your right fifty three. Let's see who's probably going 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: to be healthy for the Ravens game, who's probably not 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: going to be healthy for the Ravens game. And then 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: you've got to show that continuous improvement, which I will 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: say these last two practices. Obviously we didn't watch what 44 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: happened on Friday. We might have to go to Jeff 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: McDaniel for his analysis on on today's practice. But you know, 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: the two practices that have happened, as truncated and as 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: adjusted as they've been, seem to have been a step 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: in the right direction for this team, which I think 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: is good to see after maybe some some offensive inconsistency 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: Tuesday leading into the break. All right, let's startart with 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: those practices. The one we did see on Thursday. Obviously, 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: the practice cut in half to about an hour to 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: spend the rest of the time brainstorming ways to affect 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: change in the community in the wake of Jacob Blake's 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: shooting by a police officer in Wisconsin. And I'll tell 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: you what, the guys spent a lot of time talking, 57 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: and not just the players, coaches, front office, a lot 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: of people were talking. We weren't sure, frankly, if practice 59 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: was even going to happen on Thursday, and the guys 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: took the field and practice was moved back about fifteen 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: minutes a nice hour of work under a lot of 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: adverse conditions, and boy, they did get in some good work. 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: And let's start off with the two people that really 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: kind of shown the most, Baker Mayfield and Hollywood Higgins. 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Going back to you know, Baker's rookie year, Hollywood was 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: almost like his security blanket. Boy, does that seem like 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: that's coming into play here the further we go into 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: training camp. Yeah, And I think it's good because we honestly, 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: those first five practice we didn't see her here much 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: of Hollywood hit at all, and then these last five 71 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: or six he's been active, and I think I would 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: just say that practice as a whole. You know, we 73 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: saw more touchdowns in that practice than maybe we've seen 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: in the past few combined. Whether it was in the 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: red zone, you saw touchdowns outside of red zone drills. 76 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: It just looked like what you wanted this offense to 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: look like. And I think we've we've seen good things 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: from the running game the entire time, but now when 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: you start to see some good things happening through the air, 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: then you start to see what the vision of this 81 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: offense really could be. And I think that's what was 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: encouraging to see and it really did seem like the 83 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: offense came back with maybe a refocused mindset or maybe 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: they're working on things that they really are good at 85 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: and and honing those things in going into the season. 86 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: So I liked what I saw, and I think that 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: based on how the mood of Kevin Stefanski today, I 88 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: think that it was another good day for that group 89 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: and the thing that we're going to start wondering about 90 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: what this offense is. You've got a lot of wide 91 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: receivers on this team, and all of them seem to 92 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: be add add something to the mix. Same with tight ends. 93 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, those are two position groups that are going 94 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: to have a lot of tough decisions to make in 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: these next coming a couple of days because you've seen 96 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: plays made by a variety of different guys, and you 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: can make a case for nearly all of those guys 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: in the rooms right now as they're constructed on why 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: they belong in the roster. Yeah, I mean, that's the 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver room that that battle is. I think it's 101 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna come down literally to maybe that Thursday or Friday 102 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: prior to cut down day. I mean, and I got 103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a feeling there's gonna be a pretty good discussion in 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: that wide receiver room with the front office, with the 105 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: coaches when it's time for cutdown day as to who 106 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: stays and who goes. The way that this continues, uh 107 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: to play out, Um Donovan People's jones a big touchdown 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: from case Keenum had to leave again though, at the 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: end of practice, and that's twice this week he's had 110 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: to leave at the end of Pratt This heat related 111 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: a little concerning that he's that he's not able to 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: stick it out through the entire practice, but you know, again, 113 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: your goal is to be ready on September and not 114 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: necessarily at the end of August. Yeah, and it's it's 115 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: been good to to to see him in action. And 116 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: I think that when you have the head coach praising 117 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: him the way he did today about kind of his versatility, 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: how they can line him up anywhere on offense, and 119 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: when he mentioned the special teams factor as well, Uh, 120 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna be significant when it comes to his place 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: on this roster. So he's done a lot to prove 122 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: himself as a sixth round pick. And we've seen enough 123 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: that when you're a sixth sound pick, even when you're 124 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: when you're from Michigan, and even when you're a five 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: star approved, you're not guaranteed a roster spot. And I 126 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: think that what he's shown over these last couple of 127 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: weeks is, you know, he's in a pretty good position 128 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: to to at the minimum gain one of those and 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: then then have a role in this team moving forward. Yeah, 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: I think he's done a nice job. It's nice to 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: see Canderyl hodgeback, uh. And we'll get into Friday's practice 132 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: here in a little bit. But you made a great 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: point when we were talking just kind of throw things 134 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: for today with Cadarrel Hodge. Um, if you leave and 135 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: he had to leave for personal reasons and it was 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: away from the team, you're not getting tested daily. You 137 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: got to start the whole process over again. And that's 138 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: why he hasn't been here for his long Yeah, And 139 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: I think that the thing he was also another guy 140 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: that that got praised by Stefanski today, And I think 141 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: he was playing really well when he was here. And 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: I think that it shouldn't be forgotten that he's probably, 143 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: uh one of the best special teams players on the 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: entire team. So I think he's in a pretty good 145 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: standing right now. But but he's shown that he's more 146 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: than just a special teams guy. I think that, Uh, 147 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: he's been impressive. And again he's another guy that you 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: throw in that wide receiver mix and then you're like, 149 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: what do you do with these other guys because there's 150 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: it's a loaded group, and you brought in Damian Willis 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: from the Banks claimed and be a waiver. So the 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: group has only grown, and it's grown even more with 153 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: Damian Ratley returning to the fields. You've got a lot 154 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: of options and and some tough decisions to make. And again, 155 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: all that said, this is an offense where we don't 156 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: see a ton of wide receivers on the field at 157 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: the same time. So from what we've seen so far, 158 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: you know that could change. I mean so that it's 159 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: just gonna be interesting to see how the math works 160 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: out in the end of this. Yeah, no Greedy of 161 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: practice again with a shoulder injury. Uh. No, Joku was back. Uh. 162 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: Nice to see money Mitchbeck on the field as well 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: as Terrence Mitchell really fighting through things and got some 164 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: praise on Friday from his position coach Jeff Howard. Yeah, 165 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: and he's a player that's going to become incredibly valuable 166 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: here with this secondary being as banged up as it is. 167 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: I think Greedy Williams is day to day, but at 168 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: the same time, you got to start preparing for that game. 169 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: And Terrence Mitchell, again, as he's proven these last couple 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: of years, is a great backup plan to have at 171 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: those positions. So if he back and healthy, you feel 172 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: a lot better about that secondary. My eyes are just 173 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna keep being focused on the slot. With what's going 174 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: on with m J. Stewart and what's going on and 175 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: and Kevin Johnson's status moving forward, is what do you 176 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: do with that position that is obviously so valuable to 177 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: the secondary at that to me remains unclear at this point. Yeah, 178 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: something to watch here over the coming days and the 179 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: next ten days to a week, uh, to see what 180 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Berry and company do uh in that spot. The 181 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Browns didn't sign a reserve center, and they had signed 182 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: earlier in the week Curtis Weaver from Boise State. They 183 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: end up putting him on I R with a foot injury. 184 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: So you would look at that and you would say, 185 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: you just signed a guy to put him on I R. 186 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: But this is a guy that you know, I mean, 187 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: has a pretty good pedigree, came to the Dolphins, was 188 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: dinged up. They let him go. The Browns got him. 189 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: The Browns immediately put him on I R. And as 190 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, as Nathan's a were on Brown's daily stead 191 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: It's almost like getting another draft pick this kid. The 192 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Browns are pretty high on Curtis Weaver here. Yeah, he's 193 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: a really he had a really successful finish to his 194 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: career at Boise, stayed really super productive pass rusher, and 195 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: clearly with the injury and in Miami and maybe with 196 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: some other things, I mean, we just don't know their 197 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: decision making process that went into him being waived. And 198 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: clearly if no one had claimed him, he would have 199 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: gone back on, reverted back to their roster and has 200 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: waved injured. But the Browns, I guess we're among multiple 201 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: teams to put an acclaim for him. And it's just 202 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: it really is, like you said, an extra draft pick. 203 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: It's it's really kind of a no risk lottery ticket. 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those where you get him 205 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: in your building, get him in your facility, get him, 206 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: get him acquainted with the coaching staff, get him just 207 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: up to speed with everything, and then give it a shot. 208 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one. No pressure. I mean, so it's 209 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: it's one of those where you can never have enough 210 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: guys those positions, and I think it was a smart 211 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: move by Andrew Berry. Alright, so moving on to today's 212 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: practice one we didn't get to watch except for Jeff McDaniel, 213 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: the team in full pads. Were you surprised that they 214 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: moved inside and yet still were in full pads? Maybe? 215 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, maybe they've probably reached the 216 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: point where they had they've got enough a lotted into 217 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: the schedule, or you might as well put them in 218 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: pads and you can do some kind of contact. And 219 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: I know the field I was is obviously compromised at 220 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: the moment, so it's a much shorter field than it 221 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: is even in the past. But I guess there's enough 222 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: you could probably do. You probably still do a lot 223 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: of goal line. You probably still do a lot of 224 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: red zones. So I imagine that UH took up the 225 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: bulk of the focus and you can still do contact 226 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: drills with that. So I think that you just wanted 227 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: to make the most of the day, go the full 228 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: two hours after after only practicing for an hour, UH, 229 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and just get this team as much football hours as possible, 230 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: and I think as much as much as you can 231 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: simulate the real thing. At this point, you gotta take it. 232 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Players who did not practice today due to injury. Linebacker 233 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Adrian clay Warm with a growing corner. Kevin Johnson obviously 234 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: with the liver, but he's out there on the field 235 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: with his teammates. Karl Joseph Jarvis Landry sat out today still, 236 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, working his way back from his offseason surgery corner. 237 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: And J. Stewart with the hamstring. J C. Trader obviously 238 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: with that knee, Gritty Williams with the shoulder, and for 239 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: obvious reasons, Mack Wilson down for a little bit as well. 240 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: Coach after practice, Uh was talking about Trader, was asked 241 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: about Trader and and he said, Hey, we'll make a 242 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: decision on Trader game week, but Nick Harris has been solid. Um. 243 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: I guess I heard that, and alarm bells went off 244 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: in my head that we're even discussing having to wait 245 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: to make a decision on Trader. Um, here's a guy 246 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: I think we all thought was gonna be back, and 247 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: I think we'll still end up being back. But uh, 248 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: was it concerning it all. To hear that from him, Well, 249 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you got to prepare 250 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: for anything at this point. You want, I imagine at 251 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: this point you want, yeah, you want Nick Harris in 252 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: the mindset that hey be ready to be out there 253 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: when it starts to matter. And I think that j 254 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: C is obviously in a good spot where you probably 255 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: can get him out there without without getting him a 256 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: ton of practices. But I would imagine you want him 257 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: out there for at least a couple during the game 258 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: week and the preparation for the Ravens, just to get 259 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: him back up to speed and get him back and 260 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: at least the closest thing resembling playing shape at this point. 261 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: And I think that so now, when when the dates 262 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: get a little bit closer and closer, the deadline is 263 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: getting near and near, you gotta start getting your rookie prepared. 264 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: Not that he hasn't already been preparing, but you want 265 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: to get him locked in to at least preparing for 266 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens and getting them on his on his mind 267 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: and getting him ready for what would be a huge 268 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: moment for him and huge moment for the Brown State 269 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: to get the rookie out there, but hope, hopefully you 270 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: don't have to face that scenario. But at some point 271 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: here you're gonna want to see j C doing something 272 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: with the team to to kind of get you in 273 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: the feeling that he can be out there for a 274 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: week one. Yeah, no question about it. So offense defense, 275 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: they did go at it for a little bit today. 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: They had a full practice full to our practice and 277 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: UH look forward to seeing hopefully some of the footage 278 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: of that at some point. But Brown's back on the 279 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: field on Saturday. Will preview that and the week I 280 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: had coming up in just a few minutes, But right now, 281 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: time for our interview of the day, and it continues 282 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: uh in our Meet the Coach segment as Brown's wide 283 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: receiver coach and pass game coordinator Chad O'Shea had a 284 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: chance to sit down to chat with us about a 285 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: number of things, including his wide receiver room, Kevin Stefanski, 286 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: and the challenges of a new wide receiver like a 287 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: kid like will is coming in toward the end of 288 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: camp and how much he has to make up and 289 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: how quickly he has to do. So have a watch 290 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: and have a listen, and here on the Best Podcast available, 291 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: joined out by a pass game coordinator and wide receiver coach. 292 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Chad o'sheay in his first year with the Cleveland Browns, coach, 293 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: appreciate a few minutes of your day, and I've got 294 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: to ask why the receiver coach, I understand, I know 295 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: what that is. Pass game coordinator? What exactly is that? 296 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: What goes into that that side of things? Yeah, I 297 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: think the one thing is we have such a great 298 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: offensive staff that has been in so many different systems. 299 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: Is regardless of whatever our titles are, it's really a 300 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: collective effort for us to get to the point where 301 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: we go to the field and we install the scheme. 302 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: And that's certainly the way it's gonna be during the year. Uh. 303 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: You know, we have so many good coaches on offense, 304 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: and I have a tremendous amount of respect for the 305 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: guys that I work with, so regardless of what our 306 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: titles are, Uh, you know, we work really well together 307 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: and we contribute each of us to the game plan 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: and what we do on the field. So, uh, you know, 309 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: that's what's most important, and we work well to get 310 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: other and uh again, we got a lot of expertise 311 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: from a lot of different systems, and that's shure. It 312 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: is beneficial to us offensively. I was gonna say, guys 313 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: from all over the place, from Coach Callahan to Coach 314 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Stump and uh, all over the place, a lot of 315 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: expertise with Alex van Pelt and of course Kevin Stefanski, 316 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: who you were with in Minnesota for a brief period 317 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: of time from six to oh eight, I believe. Uh, 318 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: what's it been like, especially now with the guys back 319 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: in the building the virtual off season? We know how 320 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: well that went for everybody, But how has it been 321 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: to have the guys back in the building now going 322 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: on three plus weeks? Yeah, I mean, it's been really 323 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: an exciting time for us. We've been in the virtual 324 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: program obviously prior to this, and that was beneficial and 325 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: we made a lot of progress. But now when we 326 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: really can can really put the pedal down and and 327 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: drive as fast as we can and try to get 328 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these things accomplished on the field that 329 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: we need to. And uh, you know, it's just been 330 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: an exciting time for us because we actually get to 331 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: get them on the grass and work with an individually 332 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: and as a group and see how they come together. 333 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: And we know how important it is to have everybody 334 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: on the same page, and there's no way to get 335 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: everybody on the same page unless you're out there doing 336 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: it on a daily basis. You know, the virtual program. Obviously, 337 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: we made that the best we could and really got 338 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot out of that, but there's no substitute for 339 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: a team being on the field together, working closely with 340 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: the other positions. All right. You had mentioned that, I 341 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: believe on Brown's Live when the pads came on, fundamentals 342 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: were the goal. And have you seen some good fundamental 343 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: work from these guys ten practices into this two thousand 344 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: its twenty season. Yeah. I think that's what's most important 345 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: right now is to go out there and see where 346 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: our fundamentals are. And I think that what we've learned 347 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: is some of the issues that maybe we need to 348 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: work on fundamentally. You've seen those improvements made, whether it 349 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: be within you know, a couple of days, the three 350 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: day period, they really the players have worked hard and 351 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: tried to be very coachable. I would say, um, so 352 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: that's something that's been real encouraging, is the progress in 353 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: the fundamentals. I don't think you can realistically have those fundamentals. Obviously, 354 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: with the loss of the off season and those things 355 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: that we didn't have UH the opportunity to do, their 356 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: fundamentals are going to be an issue. And we made 357 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: a lot of progress in the fundamentals here in the 358 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: last few days, and I think there's plenty of work 359 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: to be done still in that area. What else are 360 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: you working especially hard with with your guys, especially as 361 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: we get ready for this third grouping of practices and 362 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: getting closer to the season here about two and a 363 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: half weeks up. Yeah, I think one of the areas 364 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: is just being on the same page. You know, to 365 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: take for example the past game, how important it is 366 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: the dynamics between the court back in the skill players 367 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: to be on the same page. And there's a lot 368 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: that goes into that. There's a lot of detail, there's 369 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of UH coaching, a lot of doing 370 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: that goes into that. So I think that's one of 371 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: the things we're really concentrated and focusing on, is just 372 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: continuing to be on the same page. And then you knows, 373 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: as we look as an offensive and whole, we're looking 374 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: at now some situational football, getting into some of those 375 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: situations that are so critical in the game. You know, 376 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: you install your offense, and now we're moving forward into 377 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: some of the situational work that's definitely gonna come up 378 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: obviously early in the season for us. Whether we do 379 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: well in those or we don't, it's going to be 380 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: the difference in the way it goes for us early. 381 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: What are your takeaways from this wide receiver room through 382 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: the through the first few weeks. You know, so much 383 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: is made of O'Dell and Jarvis, and we know how 384 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: great those players are, but what what about your room 385 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: as a whole. Have you liked here to the first Yeah, 386 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: I think it's been really competitive. Let's it's caught those 387 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: other guys after our top two. Uh, it's been competitive. 388 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: They're all trying to to play with well within their roles, 389 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: and I think their roles right now is what they're 390 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: making it. You know. That's That's what we've kind of 391 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: stressed to them, is is what what it's gonna be 392 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: for you is what you're gonna make it on the field. 393 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: And it's certainly been competitive. Um, you know, there there's 394 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: nothing that's set in stone right now. This is an 395 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: ongoing evaluation and and the good thing is is that 396 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: we have a competitive situation and there's a lot of 397 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: guys that are after the one and two receiver spots 398 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: that that are good candidates to contribute to what we're 399 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: doing offensively. What about a guy that just joined this 400 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: football team. Damian Willis a guy that late today the 401 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: Browns officially picked up off of the off the waiver 402 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: wire from Cincinnati. A guy like that coming in three 403 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: weeks in you know, we talked about the challenges that 404 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: rookie space trying to make the team with the virtue 405 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: roll off season. What are the challenges a guy like 406 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: that faces that you're bringing into the room basically halfway 407 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: through camp here. Yeah, that, I mean, it's it's very challenging. 408 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: It's been a very challenging year for the rookie class 409 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: obviously with some of the unique circumstances and challenge that 410 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: they've dealt with. But now you have a veteran player. 411 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I mean, we've only been at 412 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: this a few weeks. As far as our players on 413 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: our roster right now, Um, we haven't had a full 414 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: off season together on the field. So as far as 415 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: the field work, you know, you look at it, there's 416 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: only a few weeks ahead that our guys are than 417 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: bringing somebody newly acquired on our team right now. So 418 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: that's one way to look at it. Obviously, you can't 419 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: make up for all the virtual time and the time spent, 420 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: uh you know, whether it wasn't on the field or not. 421 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's a great challenge. But certainly 422 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: there's been success stories in the NFL guys coming on 423 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: rosters late and really making the most out of their opportunity. 424 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: And you know, we're we're acquiring guys for a reason 425 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: that we think they can help us at that time, 426 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: and certainly that's what we try to do with our roster. 427 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: And Andrew Berry has done a great job of, uh, 428 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, giving us putting us in an opportunity to 429 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: be successful with some of the players that we acquire, 430 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: whether it's now or whether it was through the draft. 431 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: In Minnesota with Kevin Stefanski, what was your relationship like 432 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: And obviously it's blossom to and stayed in good contact 433 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: over these years since you were there No. Six and 434 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: o eight. How have you seen him grow from that 435 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: time in Minnesota to now being the head coach of 436 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: the Brothers. Yeah, it's it's been really awesome to see that. 437 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's uh, somebody that I've always first first 438 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: of all, had a tremendous amount of respect for as 439 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: a person. Uh. You know, it didn't take long to 440 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: recognize that he was going to be great and whatever 441 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: he chose to do at the time, you know, he 442 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: wasn't in a coaching position, it was more of an 443 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: administrative role. But whatever Kevin's taken on, he's been great 444 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: at because of the attributes that he as, you know, 445 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: first and foremost as a person. And you know, he's 446 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: a highly intelligent guy that I have a tremendous amount 447 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: of respect for that I think works very well with people. 448 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: Um and and you know, I can't say enough great 449 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: things about working with him previously and then so far 450 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: my experience has been great here with him. I certainly 451 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: respect and admire how he's handled the team and provided 452 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: outstanding leadership through some different times. I would say, in 453 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: in a first year head coaches, you know, experience on that. 454 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: But I really respect what he's done. I've respected him 455 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: a lot as a as a person in the past 456 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: and really am honored and humbled at an auctionneity to 457 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: work with with him. All right, coach, we'll get you 458 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: out of here with this one. Eighteen years in the 459 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: NFL as a coach, your teams have won twelve division titles, 460 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: five conference championships, three Super Bowls. You've also worked with 461 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: two of the best in the business, and Dick for 462 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Meal in Kansas City and Bill Belichick obviously in New England. 463 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: What's the best piece of advice that you've ever gotten? 464 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not from one of those two, but what's 465 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: the best piece of advice you've gotten when it comes 466 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: to coaching in the NFL? Yeah, I think that that both. 467 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: You know, I was fortunate to be around coach for 468 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: Meal and coach Belichick and they share uh something in 469 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: common and that they always want to play to the 470 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: strengths of the players that you have an abuilding. You know, 471 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: don't try to schematically do something that maybe it's not 472 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: a fit for the guys that you're currently coaching, that 473 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: might have worked in a in a past year with 474 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: other players. So I think it's very important to find 475 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: out what the players do well. Uh, don't don't sit 476 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: around and talk about what they can't do. Let's talk 477 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: about what they can do and how we can utilize 478 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: them to their best abilities, and obviously that would influence 479 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: what we do schematically. So I certainly think we've taken 480 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: that approach here. And we have a lot of good 481 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: players in this building that do a lot of things well, 482 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: and let's let's find out what they do well and 483 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: let's play to their strengths. And and and that was 484 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: some advice that I know both of those head coaches 485 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: that I work for share and I certainly have learned 486 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot from that coach. We appreciate the time. I 487 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: know you're busy. I know everybody's busy here as we 488 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: as we sprint to the finish line otherwise known as 489 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: the starting line of the twenty NFL season. Wish you 490 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: the best and I hope you and your family are 491 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: doing well during this absolutely crazy time. Thank you and 492 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: continued success. Thanks a lot for having me on. I 493 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: want to thank coach for his time. And uh boy, 494 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Here's a guy and we I 495 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: just talked to him about it. You know, he coached 496 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: under Dick for Meal, coached under Bill Belichick. Guy has 497 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: a wealth of coaching knowledge and we talked so much 498 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: about Bill Callahan and the expertise that he has and 499 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: some of the other coaches like Stump who has been 500 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: around for a long time. A lot of these guys 501 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: come from successful programs and have coached under some really 502 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: successful people. Yeah, and it's it's it's it's good coaching 503 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: pedigree to have and all of those things I think 504 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: become even more important when you have a first year 505 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: head coach. You want to you want to get as 506 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: much experience in your building. And I think Stefansky did 507 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: a great job just lining up his staff with guys 508 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: that he was one familiar with and two with a 509 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: lot of different backgrounds, different styles of coaching, and really 510 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: most importantly a lot of success in that group. Yeah, 511 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: no question, looking forward to seeing what coach o Shake 512 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: can do with that wide receiver room. And they're gonna 513 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: be the under the microscope here for the next seven 514 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: or eight days leading up to cut down day, and 515 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: cut down day is coming quickly. As Gribble did say, Gribbs, Uh, 516 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: the three biggest things you think this team needs to 517 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: accomplish over those next seven to eight days prior to 518 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: cut down Day. There are some of the goals that 519 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: this team needs to be putting in place, as we 520 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: get closer to that date in Baltimore. Well, I think, 521 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: first of you got to figure out if you have 522 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: any ongoing competitions for starting positions, let's get those resolved. 523 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: You know, we haven't really talked a ton about those, 524 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: but I think you maybe have one opening or so 525 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: or your linebacker room. We still haven't really gotten truly settled. 526 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: So I'd like to see maybe that gets settled out, 527 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: and then maybe let's get a clearer picture of what's 528 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: happening at corner of who's going to be available in 529 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: that regard. And I just think for me, what we've seen, 530 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: I think we've seen the defense put together a lot 531 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: of good practices. I think we just need to see 532 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: the offense continue to keep up that pace. And I 533 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: think that's the second and most important thing. And then 534 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: third is be healthy to try to avoid I mean, 535 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: this is really not something you can actively do, but 536 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: let's let's try to avoid some of these injuries, get 537 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: the get the guys back as much as possible, and 538 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: just enter Week one giving yourself the best possible shot 539 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: with your best roster. Because every coach says that this 540 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: is the healthiest the team is going to be all season, 541 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: So you gotta you gotta find a way to to 542 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: get the healthiest possible roster out there for Week one, 543 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: because it's not going to get better. You're only gonna 544 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: feel more tired and more banged up. I want to 545 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: go back to the linebacker spots. Um. I know one 546 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: guy that has stood out a little bit, si Ony Taki. 547 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: Taki continuing to make some plays. I know he had 548 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: an interception in Thursday's practice. Uh, continues to make some 549 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: plays and turn some heads a little bit. And he's 550 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: a guy that's clearly stepped up in the wake of 551 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: Mack Wilson's injury. Yeah, he's been active, and I think 552 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: that that's been the thing you want to see, and 553 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: it's I think he was in a position where he 554 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: was going to be a major contributor even before Mac 555 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: went down, but now it becomes even more important. So 556 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: I think that uh, he becomes a big player. To 557 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: watch him and b J Goodson, we've seen out there 558 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot, uh making plays and being productive. And then 559 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: you wonder what's happening when they go to three with 560 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: three linebackers. Is it Tay Davis or is it Jacob Phillips. 561 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean those are a couple of players that that 562 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: seemed to be out there a bunch alongside a host 563 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: of undrafted or or very lightly experienced players. So we'll 564 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, it's one of those things, right 565 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't probably put together a depth chart right now. 566 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: We'll get a depth chart at some point, but that's 567 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: the one position group right now that that seems to 568 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: be a little unsettled, whereas everything else seems to be 569 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: about the same with what we expected. So yeah, I 570 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: think it's that. I think the battles this week are 571 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: going to be more along the lines of who's that 572 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: second line of defense if one of your guys, one 573 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: of your main starters code down. I think there are 574 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: a lot of positions up for grabs at that second 575 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: and third tier levels. Yeah, and that's the again, this 576 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: is this is the stuff we would usually entertain ourselves 577 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: with it this time of year because we are so 578 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: sick of training camp. We we sat through three preseason 579 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: games at this point, like we would be talking about 580 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: rostered players forty eight through ninety right now on the roster, 581 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: and we just haven't even gotten to that conversation yet 582 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: because it just it's a different calendar. So I almost 583 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: feel like we're not talking about these guys the way 584 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: we used to and not not scrutinizing who's on the 585 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: third team or the fourth team and things like that. So, uh, 586 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: these are decisions that have to be made pretty quickly, 587 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: and and they're doing it without preseason games, uh, and 588 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: doing it without really another thing to consider is doing 589 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: this without seeing other teams play preseason games and having 590 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: a gauge on on who might be on the waiver wire. 591 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a whole new ballgame for roster 592 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: management that we're gonna have to really just see unfold 593 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: before our eyes, uh, in a way that just hasn't 594 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: happened before. Well and not only that, but you teams 595 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: are only really cutting ten eleven guys, maybe twelve guys. 596 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: They're still gonna have to cut twenty five originally or 597 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: so because then you would expect them to go into 598 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: your practice squad. They're gonna be available there for a 599 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: day or two. So the so the number on the 600 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: waiver wire is going to be just as big or 601 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: maybe ten less than it usually is. But odds are 602 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to bring back most of those guys. 603 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: But there still are gonna be some claimable players on 604 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: the market that honestly, teams are just gonna probably be 605 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: taking flyers on and and hoping it works out for 606 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: the best about getting to see a moment of what 607 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 1: they've been able to do in the month August. I 608 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: feel like guys could get paid for that, Like, hey, 609 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: like if you're interested, I've got a couple other teams 610 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: interested site unseen. Maybe guys getting a little overpaid, Yeah, 611 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: into the NFL. It would be interesting. That's it'll be 612 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: interesting to see because usually there's a lot of waiver 613 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: claims that day after roster cuts. Maybe there's way less 614 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: this year just because you're not You can't just claim 615 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: a guy that you haven't seen. You're claim a guy. 616 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: To claim a guy that you haven't seen, you've got 617 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: to cut a guy that you've seen. And that's that's 618 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: the that's always the tricky thing. Yeah, And I think 619 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: that that will, you know, guys starting to get cut 620 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: will hurt the guys that still haven't signed with anybody, 621 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: because again, you're looking at a three to five day 622 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: process to get into a system if you haven't been 623 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: in one. Yeah, I think that will play a factory 624 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: in who gets signed, who doesn't get signed, re signed, 625 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: all all of those things. So it's going to be 626 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: a very interesting next ten plus days as we count 627 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: down to September and that game in Baltimore. Thanks to 628 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: chat O'SHAFE for his time. Thank you to Jeff McDaniel 629 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: as always for his help. Brandrew Gribble, I'm Jason Gibbs. 630 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: Make sure you like and subscribe today to the best 631 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: podcast available wherever you get your podcasts. Also watch us 632 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: on YouTube, YouTube dot com slash Browns. Thanks for watching, 633 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We are back with you on Saturday. 634 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: This is the best podcast available.