1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go, it's hour two. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: We're ready to roll. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: We are live. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: It is the Herd. Matt Hasselbeck's around the corner quarterbacks, 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: all of them fil Burls planning, Mahomes is planning. Everybody 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: but Aaron and Matt Stafford. They're not planning. And we'll 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: get to the Matt Stafford back injury on that. It 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: was fun. I sat and watched the Bears and Dolphins. 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: I watched the Jets and the Packers. Boy, Jets looked 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: like it's one of the great teams ever assembled in Lambeau. 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: It's all us funny. How good the Jets look in August. 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: It's just amazing. And they got Jones coming off the 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: pup list. That's the kid at f who was awesome 20 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: two years ago, missed all of the last year. 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that defense has a chance to 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: be nasty the front seven. 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner got paid. He's happy. The defense will be 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: a problem. No, I am Pauth, Aaron Glenn's defensive coach. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't doubt that. Here you go, all right, we 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: do it every Monday. It's more fun, obviously when we 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: have football. Colin Wright Colin wrong, and here we go 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: where Colin was right. Jim Harball a couple of years 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: ago when he drafted Joe Alt. Remember last year's draft 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: and everybody said, oh, he should have taken a receiver. 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: Well Tate, we defended him. We said no, go Joe Alt. 32 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: And Joe Alt is saving the season. Rashaun Slater's out 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: for the year at left tackle. They can move Joe Alt, 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: who I've been told has had a great camp. They 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: can now move him to the left tackle. Mackai Becton 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe goes to right tackle. But this is why he's 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: the anti Mike McDaniel. It's all about building center guard 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: tackles out, not wide receivers in. And that Joe All 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: pick everybody wanted to receive or they got Lad mcconky 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: in the second round. They were fine that Joe altpick 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: could have saved the season where Colin was wraw well, 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: arch Mannings family is saying he's staying at Texas two 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: more years. So I will take for now a wrong. 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: I think if he slices up Ohio State there is 45 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: going to be incredible momentum. I think he's really good. 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I didn't watch a ton of them. I thought he 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: was better than quinn Ewers more athletic throws a better ball. 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: For now, I'll take a wrong. I think it's the 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: right thing to say. In the Mannings usually say the 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: right thing, so I'll take this l where Colin was right. 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Joe Shed Dolphin's reporter reporting that culture, accountability, and physicality 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: are what Mike McDaniels is preaching in this camp. What 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: a shock. That's exactly what we've been saying, and it 54 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: gotten We've gotten pushed back from Dolphin fans. My take 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: is lot of sizzle three years into this coaching reign. 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: Where's the stake, where's the meat and the sandwich? They're 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: not physical, Tyreek Hill sort of says and does what 58 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: he wants. What makes McVeigh or Shanahan or Andy Reid's 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: special is their teams are physical and they can be Finesse. Finally, 60 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I at least appreciate the coach acknowledging what the issue 61 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: is where Colin was wrong. Fifty NFL executives and coaches 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: came out in Mike Sando's annual survey, and they've got 63 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: bow Knicks tied for the twentieth best quarterback in the league, 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: below Geno Smith. You know, Smith's been in this league 65 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: eleven years. He's made the playoff once. Bo Nicks has 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: been in the year in the NFL, one year in 67 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: a division. Last year with Herbert Harbaugh and he Mahomes 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: in the AF scene, he made the playoffs. I Sean 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Payton and I love bow Nicks were apparently on an 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: island because they even have him below Tua, who's smaller, 71 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: not his athletic, more injury prone, and I'd say bo 72 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Nick slightly has the better arm. I don't get it 73 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: where Colin was right. Well, not to pick on anybody, 74 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: but the last two years people have been telling me 75 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: quinn yours is something, and I keep saying I don't 76 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: see the great traits five of eighteen two fumble sack twice. 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. At Texas, I don't get it. 78 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't see what everybody sees. 79 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: No. 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: I know he dropped to the seventh round, but before 81 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: the draft people were talking second, third, fourth. I don't 82 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: see it. You gotta have a trait. I go wow 83 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: with not a great anticipatory thrower. You know, he kind 84 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: of slings it. Did not look like he was I mean, 85 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: he looked like it's a long way to go. And 86 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: that's what I've been saying for two years. Where Colin 87 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: was wrong, I thought Jackson dark was better than an 88 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: anticipating I thought he threw it with anticipation. I always 89 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: thought he was pretty athletic. I thought he looked really poised. 90 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: I thought he looked really comfortable, you know, like a Bonnicks. 91 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Maybe a little more athletic than I gave him credit for. 92 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: But you know, when he got drafted, I said, I 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't give up picks that drafted him in the 94 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: first round, but you have to be pretty happy. Twelve 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: to nineteen, one hundred and fifty four yards again, looked 96 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: comfortable playing with the backup offensive lineman, good arm strength. 97 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was impressive. I thought he was really impressive. 98 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, I don't want to hear about 99 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's age, Okay, he's hurt again. Nobody cares about 100 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: age and experience. You're in year three. You got to 101 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: be able to play. And so I had said this 102 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: going into the season. He has Shane Steichen, one of 103 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: the really bright offensive minds, and he regressed last year, 104 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: so he was a boomer, a bus pick. I just 105 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: think by this time you can't be taking those hits 106 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: and it feels like a miss where Colin was right. 107 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Even the NBA is acknowledging with their Christmas and Opening 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: Day schedules, the league is lobsided. The Christmas games are 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs against the thunder Rockets, Lakers, MAVs, Warriors, 110 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: t Wolves Denver. They have one Eastern Conference game and 111 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: it's the Knicks. The West is so much better than 112 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: the East, Honest to god, it feels like the SEC 113 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: in the Pac twelve for about fifteen years. Even their 114 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: opening night games are one hundred percent Western Conference teams. 115 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: And that's with big brands out East Philly, New York, Heat, Celtics. 116 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: So if we've said this before, you put Lebron in 117 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: the Lakers out East, Oh, they can compete. Luca Lebron 118 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves could compete to get to the Eastern Conference finals. 119 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: They're a five seed, probably maybe a six to a 120 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: seven in the West. 121 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: One more heard. 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Don't listen to 130 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: the show so it can get Camps. 131 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: Who whoa what what the hell are you doing in 132 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: our studio? 133 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Get him, Paulie, Ignore that fool. Listen to the Paula 134 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: and Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 135 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: you get your podcast. 136 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: He's still moving, all. 137 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Right, that Nick Wright first things, first weekdays at three 138 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: ees FS. So I'm in a weird space with Shader Sanders, so, 139 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, so it'd be very easy to be a 140 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: troll and marginalize me, but I liked him coming out 141 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: of college. Then I thought he was way too immature 142 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: with legendary and the speeding tickets unseerious really bothered me. 143 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: And then I watched them Friday, and I'm like, stop 144 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: saying he's not athletic enough. He is more athletic than 145 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: all but about ten guys nearly he is fine. And 146 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: so now I'm stuck. I did not like, I'm really 147 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: I like the traits, but I said yesterday, if your 148 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: traits aren't mahomes Alan Lamar, then you better be good 149 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: at the other stuff, the other thirty thirty five percent. 150 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: Years ago, you said something very smart. You said the NBA, 151 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you don't have to be a great defensive player because 152 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: offense is seventy percent of the league. You shouldn't be 153 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: hardened and be atrocious. Same thing here, trades are seventy 154 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: percent of the league. You have to do some film 155 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: study like it can't be like. So I am back 156 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: and forth on Shador, but I loved how he played Friday, 157 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: and then he told me crazy because he goes after 158 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: a local radio. 159 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Guy, and I'm like, we see, so I didn't I did. 160 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: So here's the deal. 161 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: I actually think you and I were in a similar 162 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: spot on Shador and the Browns have given us an 163 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 5: out and then I'll get to the radio guy. 164 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 165 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 5: So I think you and I both before the draft 166 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: said there's a very real chance he's Like people were 167 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 5: talking about should or versus cam Ward at one, and 168 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 5: then it moved to will the Giants take him in 169 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 5: the top five, and then it moved to should Pittsburgh 170 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 5: trade up to ten or eleven if he's there? And 171 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 5: I think you and I were two of the few 172 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 5: people that said he might be there for Pittsburgh if 173 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 5: they don't move at all, if they just stay where 174 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 5: they are at the in the twenties in round one 175 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: that we thought as a prospect. He was a late 176 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: round one, round two player, and so we weren't as 177 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 5: high on him as some. 178 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: But I don't think any of us thought he was 179 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: going to fall the way he did. So there's that 180 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: part of it. Then. 181 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 5: I don't think you or I loved him as a 182 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 5: starting quarterback his rookie year in the NFL, But when 183 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: he ends up on a team with the oldest quarterback 184 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 5: in the league in Joe Flacco, with Kenny Pickett, who 185 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 5: is not an NFL quarterback. And in fact, when you 186 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 5: have Mike Sando on in an hour, asked him about 187 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett maybe being the first player in the history 188 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 5: of his tiers to be in his own tier Tier 189 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 5: five this year, for Sando was just Kenny Pickett. It's 190 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 5: the saddest thing I've ever seen. He has no friends, 191 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 5: he has no roommates, he has nothing. He's out there 192 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 5: all by himself. And then Dylan Gabriel, who you know, 193 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 5: looks eye to eye with Kyler. 194 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: Murray Hurry literally. 195 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 5: Then all of a sudden, it's like, well, Shador might 196 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 5: be a good option in this specific quarterback room because 197 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 5: Blasto is not playing all seventeen pick it's not a starter. 198 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 5: And you watch as much college football as anybody nobody 199 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 5: watched Oregon last year and was like, that kid, that's 200 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 5: a franchise NFL quarterback. So you then add to it 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 5: that I think Shador played quite well under somewhat adverse 202 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 5: circumstances in Week one of the preseason, and you have 203 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 5: the recipe for a fifth round pick starting the season 204 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 5: as the backup quarterback for the quarterback most likely to 205 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: be benched of anyone in the league. 206 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: So that part of it. 207 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 5: I don't think that's in conflict with your previous opinions. 208 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: There's twenty eight teams in the league where Shador would 209 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 5: not be in a quarterback battle. 210 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: He's on one of the three or. 211 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: Four where he is and where he might end up 212 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 5: moving up enough to where he's the eventual starter. There's 213 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 5: that now, the Tony Grosi thing. Colin, listen. I know 214 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: it has been years since you had to go in 215 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: locker rooms, and it's been some time since I went 216 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 5: in locker rooms, but we know that is not uncommon, 217 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 5: the athlete going up to the loudmouthed radio guy and 218 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: being like, Hey, what I do to you? 219 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: I remember twelve years ago, I don't. 220 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: Know, I guess fifteen years ago being in the Chiefs 221 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: locker room and Matt Castle saying to anyone who would 222 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: listen in my vicinity, Hey, does anybody like this guy? 223 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: He sure seems to talk a lot of s to everyone, 224 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: doesn't he like? That's pretty common and so and I all, 225 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: let me add one other thing about. 226 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: The end of that. And this is just a reality 227 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: of life. 228 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 5: Never underestimate the power were of charisma or a great 229 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 5: smile like that. Tony Grossy Schadoor interaction reads not great, 230 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: but when you watch it and Shadoor hits you with 231 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 5: the five thousand watts smile and the laugh at the end, 232 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: it seems like it's okay. 233 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: So I had no problem with that. 234 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: The walk in with the boombox and the staff I 235 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 5: maybe could have done without. But I also did just 236 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: turn forty, so I'm becoming a curmudgeonly old man like you. 237 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: But I thought he played well. 238 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fun to watch. So I said, almost 239 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: everybody played this weekend Mahomes Burrow Tua. Everybody but Tom 240 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: Brady played this Weekend, and Caleb Williams didn't. And my 241 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: take was standalone Bear's Dolphins. Ben Jonson's like, you know, 242 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: He's It's like when tech companies come out with a 243 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: new product and they say, you know what, we're gonna 244 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: delay it. It's going to be revolutionary, but you just 245 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: want to tighten it up. It means the engineering staffs 246 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: a little behind. My take is Caleb is creating a 247 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: little bit of drama where it's like, listen, do we 248 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: want another nine days or seven days? Getting crushed? He's 249 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: not quite there. We're asking him to do stuff under center, 250 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: and it was strategic in not playing him, not that 251 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: he got a bunch of good snaps against the Dolphins. 252 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: What's your take on that. 253 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: I think you have gone swung the pingdrum a little 254 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 5: too far on the calyb stuff. 255 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm being honest. I think you have the are a little. 256 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 5: Too pessimistic at this point after admittedly you and I 257 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: were both probably a little too optimistic last year. But 258 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 5: I listen, I would if I were running an NFL team, 259 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 5: I would simply say, hey, what does Andy Reid do 260 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: in preseason and training camp? 261 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do that because. 262 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: The Chiefs start every year off sharp and ready, and 263 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: he plays his guys and Holmes is out their first 264 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: preseason game and they have tough practices. But the second 265 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: best in my opinion, coach in football, Sean McVay, does 266 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 5: the opposite. So there clearly isn't just one way to 267 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: go about it. I would be more critical of this 268 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: if it weren't for the fact it also should be 269 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 5: noted the entirety of the Bears starting offensive line SAT. 270 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: They're starting running back, tight end, and their top three 271 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 5: wide receivers SAT. So of course Caleb is going to 272 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 5: sit now he does need to play probably more snaps 273 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: now in week two than they otherwise would have. And 274 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 5: is this Ben Johnson protecting Caleb? Is this Ben Johnson 275 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 5: protecting himself? Is this Ben Johnson simply saying, Yeah, we're 276 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 5: not exactly where I want us to be yet, but 277 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 5: I think there's no harm in waiting an extra week. 278 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 5: I'll tell you this, much like everybody loves Drake May, 279 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: even though you can't find the stat the number the 280 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 5: game where Drake May was better than Caleb last year, 281 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: Drake May got five through five passes in Week one. 282 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 5: One of them was backwards over his head to the 283 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: other team. Nobody cares and so like, is it good 284 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 5: or bad that Caleb didn't have that moment? I'm not sure, 285 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 5: but I think I am. I do think it will 286 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 5: be a little rocky early as this transition takes place. 287 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 5: But I think by the by Thanksgiving, Colin Caleb, I believe, 288 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: is going to look like the player that you and 289 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 5: I both believed he would be. 290 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: Well, I hope so so the quarterback Mike Sando's on 291 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: in an hour, and I love it. It's an annual survey. 292 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: I said yesterday, I woke up and I saw it 293 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: and it was like, Oh, it was like Christmas present 294 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: in August. It's great. I love it. Did you have 295 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: anything anything in the tiers? Could you do your own tiers? 296 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Anything that jumped out to you as a revelation or 297 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: I thought bo Nix was a little low. I thought 298 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Aaron was a little high at this point, I think 299 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: if you asked GMS, who would you take today, Aaron 300 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: or bow Knicks. Take bow Nicks for a lot of reasons. 301 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: One he's just in his athletic prime. But it didn't 302 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: bother me. But it was there anything here that jumped 303 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: out to you? 304 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, just because you opened the door there. 305 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: I heard you tease in the previous segment that there's 306 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 5: going to be an adjustment tomorrow. Is it to your 307 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: preseason predictions? 308 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: Yes? 309 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 5: And then you revealed that a charger injury Rashon Slater, 310 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 5: And so when I was like, and at first I 311 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 5: was like, Okay, good Colin, who had every single defending 312 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: division champion repeating except for the Chiefs, is now going 313 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 5: to use the Rashawn Slater injury as a reason to 314 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 5: elevate the Chiefs. Why do I have a terrible sinking 315 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 5: feeling that somehow the Rashaw Slater injury is going to 316 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 5: lead to bow Nicks and your beloved Sean Bayton going 317 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 5: from third to first. 318 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: In the AFC West. 319 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: It is somehow Rashawn Slater gets hurt and the Broncos 320 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 5: go to first place. 321 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: I saw that. 322 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: Trade storming down the tracks. 323 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 5: I was like, that's what's happening here, all right, So sorry, 324 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 5: no spoiler alert. 325 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: I haven't seen the list. 326 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 5: But I know that's what's happening. I just know it 327 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: all right. Now to the list. I thought the list 328 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 5: was really good. Now I am higher on Stafford than most, 329 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 5: but not in nflgms and front office people, because I 330 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: think he's the fifth. 331 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: Best quarterback in football. 332 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 5: Obviously, the three or four people that had Josh Allen 333 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 5: or Lamar as tier two are just out of their 334 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: mind like that. 335 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: That to me is not a viable opinion. 336 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 5: Unless people are arguing Mahomes is in a tier by himself, 337 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: which they should but they're not, then Alan and Lamar 338 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 5: have to be there with Burrow in tier one. I 339 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 5: know there was a lot of consternation about Jalen Hurts's ranking. 340 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: I didn't listen. I would have. 341 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts ahead of Justin Herbert. I would rather have 342 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts than Jared Goff. But aside from that, like 343 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with Jalen Hurts being high 344 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: Tier two. I also think it should be noted people 345 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: are awful quiet these days. You know, we don't hear 346 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 5: from so much anymore these days. Colin the brock Purty Truthers. 347 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 5: They were chirping at you and me for quite a while, 348 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: and now he's hanging on for dear life in Tier two, 349 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 5: about to drop to Tier three when this thing comes 350 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 5: out next year, and you have from as much anymore. 351 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 5: I thought this quarterback tiers was I thought they were 352 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 5: really well done, as they typically are. I think Josh 353 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: Allen's the second best quarterback in football. But you know, 354 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: forty seven people voted him tier one, fifty voted Joe Burrow. 355 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 5: It's such a small margin. I don't really have a 356 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 5: problem with it. I think this is a pretty fair 357 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 5: reading of the league. I agreed with you. I think 358 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 5: Aaron was a touch hi. I also thought Kyler I 359 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 5: thought fit the top of Tier three are two quarterbacks 360 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 5: that I just don't really believe it in Kyler and Aaron, 361 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 5: so I wouldn't have them quite as high. I think 362 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: Gino's a little disrespected. And listen, I understand nobody's ready 363 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: for Mac Jones two point zero bow knicks and take 364 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 5: the league by storm. I'm very excited to see it. 365 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, by the way, the Brock Pretty thing 366 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: and this is gonna really bother Jmac. But I said, 367 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: when Dak as a fourth rounder, came in and the 368 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys had Zeke, who was the best back in the league, 369 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: the best offensive line and offensive coach, the division was 370 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: kind of wonky and they could spend money because they're 371 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: paying Dak. Yeah, there were three and then the more 372 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: they relied on him. Well, if you go to brock 373 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: Perty's first year as a full time starter, he had 374 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: four Pro Bowlers on offense. Now their receiving corps in 375 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: this camp is a mess. And in his last fifteen games, 376 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: as the team got old, Brittle is losing defensive players, 377 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: meaning they're in more shit doubts. Do you know what 378 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: brock Purtty is in his last fifteen games, He's six 379 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: and nine and they just paid him. So my take 380 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: is what brought Pretty is going through not only the 381 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: last fifteen games, but in this camp where all his 382 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: receivers are gone or hurd is that's the real NFL, 383 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: not of das rookie year or Brock's first two years. 384 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: Of course, And by the way, listen, some of these 385 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 5: the Brock purty folks are not going to be reasoned with. 386 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: And I've said this before, but I will say it again. 387 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: This is a essentially a. 388 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 5: Six year long how do you view football war that 389 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 5: started with Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo won, but objectively was 390 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 5: not that good. And some people were like, Nope, he's 391 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: a winner, he's got it. And there were those of 392 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: us who were like, I actually think with that coaching 393 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 5: and that talent and that scheme, you could throw almost 394 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: anyone in there and they would be successful. And those 395 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 5: folks were like, no, you can't. And by the way, 396 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 5: how would you ever prove that? And then they put 397 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 5: in literally the last player picked in the draft and 398 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 5: added Christian McCaffery, and instead of those folks being like, oh, yeah, 399 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: the talent and the scheme of the coaching, they're like, Nope, 400 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 5: that guy's a superstar. 401 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: And then those of us were. 402 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 5: Like, no, he has this amazing team around him, and 403 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: they said, well, how do you know he wouldn't do 404 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 5: it if he didn't have that team around him. And 405 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 5: then last year he didn't have it around him. They 406 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 5: won six games, and they're like, no, proc Perty's still great, 407 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: Like he's fine, he's over a chief his draft status. 408 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: I'm happy for him and his family. He got paid. 409 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 5: But anybody that watches the NFL and thinks he is 410 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 5: a force multiplier or he is a substantially you know 411 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 5: that he is unfairly ranked and the fourteen fifteen, sixteen range, 412 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 5: they're just they're not going to they are not open 413 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: to the evidence that keeps in year after year or 414 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: game after a game. 415 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: I will give you credit though, the fact that you 416 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: were able to sniff out Bonex going on. 417 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: I know it. 418 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 5: Of course, I was shocked when I saw you didn't 419 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 5: have the Broncos in the playoffs. 420 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's listen. I know. I know Uncle Colin 421 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: really well. 422 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 5: And one of the things I know is around this 423 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: time of year, he loves he loves he loves him some. 424 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: Sean Payton loves him some. Ah. You know, how. 425 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 5: Impressive is it really to go to seven straight conference 426 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 5: title games and win three and go to three straight 427 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 5: Super Bowls like when we see that all the time, 428 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 5: and now do I wish you had this type of 429 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 5: energy for JP Losman and the Bills circa two thousand 430 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 5: and nine. Sure I do, But listen, everybody, everybody can't 431 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: be the twenty twenty four Denver Broncos who went oho 432 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 5: and seven against AA. I've seen playoff teams, but now 433 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: they're a real threat because have you seen Courtland Sutton. 434 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 5: I mean, it's the silliest thing I've ever heard, but 435 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: I'm glad you're now going to join the chorus on it. 436 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: And I still please explain tomorrow how Rashaun Slater's injury 437 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 5: moves the Broncos up two spots and the Chiefs state 438 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 5: where they're at. I don't see it, but I'm sure 439 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 5: you will explain it. 440 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: I will. First things first, my buddy Nick, Right as 441 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: I was good seeing you. 442 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 443 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: and noon Easter n a em Pacific. 444 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: All right, here we go, it's our two. It's the 445 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listing. 446 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger going to be joining us from the Jets 447 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: and Giants camp today. They're having a joint practices with 448 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Giants. Both teams have some real 449 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: talent on the defensive side. We don't know what transpliers 450 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback. So J Mack likes one of them and 451 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: has disdained for the Jackson Dart pretty promising. Justin Fields 452 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: will see so J Mac once the NFL season ends. 453 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: I give myself four opportunities to make predictions for the 454 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: following year. Last year I went four for four in 455 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: the AFC Division Champions two for four in the NFC. 456 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: I did get Washington was my surprise team in the NFL, 457 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: nailed to make the playoffs. I predicted Denver was the 458 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: easiest team to double their win total. I don't think 459 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: they quite did, but they were much better. They made 460 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs, so I felt pretty good about last year. 461 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: It's hard you're not going eight for eight. AFC is 462 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: much easier than the NFC. But I do think now 463 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: that you watch OTAs and rookie camp and you get 464 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: consensus opinions from camps on what rookies are crushing, who's hurt, 465 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: who's injured. See you ready to go fire away, buddy? 466 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: Here we go. This is my final big tweak my 467 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: NFL predictions. We start in the AFC and most of 468 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: what I am predicting will stay the same. AFC East 469 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Bills are gonna win it. Patriots are my most improved 470 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. Will be a wild card team. 471 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: They've had a very good camp. Dolphins coming out now, 472 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: as we predicted, the culture, the accountability, Mike McDaniels saying 473 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: it must improve. We said that and we got nothing, 474 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: but you know what from Dolphin fans. The coach says it, 475 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: and everybody says, well, of course. The Jets, I just structurally, 476 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: I have no idea their fourth we go to the 477 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: AFC North, it's gonna stay the same. Bengals, Joe Burrows 478 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: had a great camp. That's promising because they've been a 479 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: slow starting team. Ravens are the best operation arguably in 480 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: the sport. Steelers have not been impressive once again, can't 481 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: run the ball in camp or in the season. Cleveland's 482 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: trying to get a number one pick next year. Schadur 483 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: is gonna start mark my word. Probably finished fourth, but 484 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: there'll be an interesting fourth place team that stays the same. 485 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: My first change, not a major one. I am going 486 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: to move the Jags into the second spot. They've had 487 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: a very good camp. Travis Hunter has been effective on 488 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: both sides. Trevor Lawrence has had a very good camp. 489 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: Lea and Coleman him are on the same page. Brian 490 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: Thomas year or two and this has mostly a been 491 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: about the Titans, who I think they have the quarterback 492 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: and the coach for the future, but they've acknowledged both 493 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback and the coach are acknowledging the offense is struggling. 494 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: They probably have the worst receiving core in the league. 495 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: So I think Tennessee will be a fun watch. And 496 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: I really like cam Ward, but I Trevor Lawrence is 497 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: healthy offensive coach. Between Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter in 498 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: the camp, they've upgraded their own line. I'm gonna put 499 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: them at second, Titans, third, Colts, fourth, and AFC West. 500 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: I am flipping the Broncos and the Chargers. Mackai Beckton 501 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: has banged up Rashaun Slater out for the year on 502 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line, Joe Alt's gonna have to change positions. 503 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: Offensive line, which was a concern, is now once again 504 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: a bigger concern than last year. They still also have 505 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: a couple of receivers that are young that can't consistently catch. 506 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: I think all of these are legitimate concerns. Denver maybe 507 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: has the best camp so far in the league. Every 508 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: reporter that's been there, wow. Also, they picked up a 509 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: running back R. J. Harvey in the second round. He's 510 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: had a great camp. Sean Payton is raving about him. 511 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: So I'm I think Kansas City's a good team. I 512 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: think they're not gonna go eleven and oh in one 513 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: score games. So Bill's Ravens, Texans, Broncos now winning their divisions, 514 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: Patriots Bengals. Chiefs are playoff teams. Patriots Bengals new playoff teams. 515 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: We go to the NFC. The East remains the same Eagles, Commanders, Giants, Cowboys. 516 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think. I don't think the Cowboys are 517 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: very good. I don't like the staff. I do think 518 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: they'll be interesting, but that's an Eagles division. I know 519 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: everybody says, well at Flip Loves, I wouldn't be shocked 520 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: if the Commanders won the division, but they've been noisy. 521 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin hold out noisy. Don't love that. But Jayden 522 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: Daniels in my opinion, and the staff are too good 523 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: to fall to third, so that stays the same. NFC North, 524 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: major change, green Bay quiet camp. I don't worry about 525 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Love's non throwing hand injury yesterday. The Lions, I'm 526 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: dropping them to second. I think they're roster and o 527 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: line and quarterback and culture's too good not to be 528 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: a playoff team. In the NFC, Bears have been the 529 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: noisiest camp. I don't trust it, but I know more 530 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: about the Bears than I do JJ McCarthy and the Viking. 531 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: So I am taking the Bears from second to third, 532 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: the Lions from first to second. And the more I 533 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: look at Green Bay, they love their first round pick, 534 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: the more I like the Packers. Do not worry about 535 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: non throwing hand. He will start Week one, and then 536 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: in the NFC South it stays the same. You know, Falcons, 537 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: Bucks are both teams capable of making the playoff. I 538 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: think the best quarterback in division is Baker Mayfield. It's 539 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: a workable schedule. I love their GM. They can make 540 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: a move with the trade deadline. Overall, the Saints are 541 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: one of the worst teams. The Buck throw was feisty, 542 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield playing with more maturity. I'm going to take 543 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: them to win the division again and then I have 544 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: a change. The Rams have had a bumpy camp. Matt 545 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: Stafford's not practicing, I know, and their left tackle, their 546 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: best offensive lineman or second best, Alaric Jackson, not practicing. 547 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: Blood clots. Well, with an old quarterback in Matt Stafford, yeah, 548 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm concerned that the left tackle again has blood clots 549 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: and is not practicing. Rob Havenstein could be playing his 550 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: last year at right tackle, so that worries me. It 551 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: has been a bumpy, bumpy camp with a left tackle 552 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: and a quarterback not practicing. I'm not saying not playing, 553 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: not practicing. I'll move the Niners from fourth to third, 554 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: even though they've got massive wide receiver grouping injuries, and 555 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Seattle. This is my shocker. I think 556 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: Seattle is gonna win the division. Gray's abel that offensive 557 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: lineman their first pick has been a dog in practice. 558 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: So the Eagles, Packers, Bucks, and Seahawks are the division winners. Commanders, 559 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: Lions and Rams are the playoff teams, so it matters. 560 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if your quarterback who's old, and your left 561 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: tackle or not practicing, especially the left tackle issue. It 562 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: worries me. And remember, of all the good teams in 563 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: the league last year, go look at point differential for 564 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: the Rams. Ravens blew a lot of people out, Bills 565 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: blew a lot of people out, Lions blew a lot 566 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: of people out, Eagles blew a lot of people out. 567 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: Rams won a lot of close games. Left tackle not practicing, 568 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: Stafford banged up, bad back. It worries me.