1
00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,280
Speaker 1: That's the thing about skincare is that who do you trust? Right, Like,

2
00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,600
Speaker 1: who do you trust? People have like brand deals and

3
00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,760
Speaker 1: people are getting boxes of stuff and you know. Yeah,

4
00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,400
Speaker 1: so as we begin this, we do want to say

5
00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,120
Speaker 1: that this is not sponsored. We're just talking about products

6
00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,960
Speaker 1: that we have actually used. More more, more and more

7
00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:40,000
Speaker 1: better more, a little more better more. Welcome to more Better,

8
00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:41,879
Speaker 1: a podcast where we stop pretending to have it all

9
00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,839
Speaker 1: together and embrace the journey of becoming a little more

10
00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:45,559
Speaker 1: better every.

11
00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,000
Speaker 2: Day, or at least trying to. That's a Beatrice, Oh yeah,

12
00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,760
Speaker 2: coming in hot, coming in hot.

13
00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,120
Speaker 1: What's going on? What did you done lately? That's more better? Melissa?

14
00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,280
Speaker 1: What have I done lately?

15
00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:07,040
Speaker 2: That is more better? You know, I'm just still coming

16
00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,800
Speaker 2: out of top of the year. You know, it's just

17
00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,000
Speaker 2: it's a crazy time. So my more better is like

18
00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,000
Speaker 2: I am just trying to be nice to myself, trying

19
00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,440
Speaker 2: not to be hard on myself about anything. I'm just

20
00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,679
Speaker 2: trying to be nice to myself. I don't get something

21
00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,840
Speaker 2: done in the day, it's okay. If if I have

22
00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,360
Speaker 2: a day where I did do the things and I'm consistent,

23
00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, yay, good for you. Just trying to be

24
00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,600
Speaker 2: like extra nice to ourselves lately. I like it, Yeah,

25
00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,640
Speaker 2: like little things. How about you?

26
00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,840
Speaker 1: I planned all my my workouts? Well, I planned most

27
00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:51,160
Speaker 1: of them.

28
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,320
Speaker 2: Do you plan your workouts in advance?

29
00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,760
Speaker 1: I do plan some of them because I have like

30
00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 1: a plate studio that I really like to go to,

31
00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,480
Speaker 1: so I need to book those in advance, otherwise they

32
00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,920
Speaker 1: sell out of spots and I try to get In

33
00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,960
Speaker 1: addition to the three Polates classes, I am aiming for

34
00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,240
Speaker 1: my Poloton boyfriend, Matt Wilbur's if you guys do Peloton,

35
00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,560
Speaker 1: you know who he is. My Peloton boyfriend says you

36
00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,480
Speaker 1: need one hundred and fifty minutes of cardiovascular exercise every week.

37
00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,680
Speaker 1: I think he's saying cardio and strength is one hundred

38
00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,639
Speaker 1: and fifty minutes total.

39
00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,680
Speaker 2: But I was going to say, like one hundred and

40
00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,320
Speaker 2: fifty minutes of cardio.

41
00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm trying to do. I'm trying to do

42
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty minutes of cardio a week. I'm

43
00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,000
Speaker 1: trying to do because I want to be able to

44
00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,080
Speaker 1: ride a bike for like my long term goal is

45
00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,840
Speaker 1: like by next year, I want to be able to

46
00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,160
Speaker 1: like ride a bike with Brad, like across some kind

47
00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,600
Speaker 1: of like foreign countryside or maybe even like the United States, oh,

48
00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,959
Speaker 1: like country something you know, like go on a tour

49
00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,000
Speaker 1: and like be able to keep up. I mean he's

50
00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:08,080
Speaker 1: so strong. His legs are particularly strong, right, He's a

51
00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,440
Speaker 1: really strong writer, and like I'm not. So I'm trying

52
00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,359
Speaker 1: to like get my my cardio like better, like my heart,

53
00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,120
Speaker 1: my lungs, like what is it. I'm trying to get

54
00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,240
Speaker 1: my VO two max up so that my body can

55
00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:27,799
Speaker 1: turn oxygen into energy more efficiently. That's what Matt will say, boyfriendcess.

56
00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,760
Speaker 1: So I did my two I did my class this morning.

57
00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 1: I have one more class this week that I need

58
00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,640
Speaker 1: to do, and then I have three bloodies classes that

59
00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,520
Speaker 1: I also need to get.

60
00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,920
Speaker 2: To amazing, and I need to try need to up

61
00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,040
Speaker 2: my my cardio. I've been really consistent with like strength stuff,

62
00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,360
Speaker 2: but I need to get I don't like to be breathless,

63
00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,320
Speaker 2: but it is so good for you.

64
00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,240
Speaker 1: It's not I don't like to be Yeah, I don't like.

65
00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't I don't love being out of breath. Wild

66
00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:07,520
Speaker 1: muscles are burning that particular sensation at the same time. Uh,

67
00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,800
Speaker 1: there's like a little bit of rage that comes up

68
00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,680
Speaker 1: in me when that happens that I need to just

69
00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,520
Speaker 1: do more of and get more comfortable with because it

70
00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,880
Speaker 1: is really good for you. That's so funny.

71
00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:20,720
Speaker 3: Rage.

72
00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,919
Speaker 1: I think the rage comes for me when I'm in

73
00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,720
Speaker 1: a class and I'm asked to do something that is like,

74
00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,159
Speaker 1: that's obviously for the advanced students in this class. It

75
00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,719
Speaker 1: is so unfair to ask everyone in this classroom to

76
00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,200
Speaker 1: do that, or like the teacher will be like, you know,

77
00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,960
Speaker 1: she's been that, the politic teacher's been walking around the

78
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,880
Speaker 1: whole class just dilly dally and walking around, and then

79
00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,880
Speaker 1: at the very end she'll get on a machine and

80
00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,240
Speaker 1: be like, and now do this, and she'll like show

81
00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,159
Speaker 1: us some fucking bullshit. And I'm like, come on, man,

82
00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,760
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna fall out of here. I'm gonna I'm

83
00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,120
Speaker 1: literally Also, my hands sweat so much. I'm so sweaty,

84
00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,120
Speaker 1: Like my hands are so sweaty.

85
00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,000
Speaker 2: Well, I get sweat hands too.

86
00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,520
Speaker 1: It's really annoying to like and be like, I'm gonna, yeah,

87
00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,000
Speaker 1: you could be one of those girls.

88
00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,320
Speaker 4: I can't bring myself to be.

89
00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,080
Speaker 1: But there are some girls that were those little like

90
00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,839
Speaker 1: Pilate's gloves or like those lifting gloves I can't do it.

91
00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,520
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

92
00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, either I feel like I'm going to Charles

93
00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,160
Speaker 1: Dickens play like I'm like, hey, gov no, like their

94
00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,400
Speaker 1: fingerless gloves.

95
00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,400
Speaker 2: Or like a fossy production. Yeah, like, yeah, I can't. Yeah,

96
00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,840
Speaker 2: I know. I've almost bought them a hundred times though,

97
00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,039
Speaker 2: because I do hate the feeling of like you're doing

98
00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,599
Speaker 2: a kettlebell swing and you're like, is this kettlebell's gonna

99
00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,080
Speaker 2: fly out of my hands? And I wake my garage

100
00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,680
Speaker 2: door because my hands are so fucking sweating and now

101
00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm gripping it so hard.

102
00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:43,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

103
00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,920
Speaker 1: Well, apparently grip strength is like a big.

104
00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, measurement of health.

105
00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,440
Speaker 1: Guys, this is not even what we're talking about today.

106
00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,480
Speaker 4: We're not talking No.

107
00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,919
Speaker 2: We got on a tangent and we got maybe we should,

108
00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:58,880
Speaker 2: may we should.

109
00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,679
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a necessary that's.

110
00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:06,960
Speaker 2: Fine, more better, But what are we talking about today?

111
00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,159
Speaker 1: Today? We're talking about skincare, which is near and dear

112
00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:16,839
Speaker 1: to almost every person's part. I guess there's some people

113
00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,560
Speaker 1: that don't care about their skin, as people that have

114
00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,480
Speaker 1: to work on television. It is, it is, it has been,

115
00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:31,120
Speaker 1: at times the bane of my existence. Skincare is really difficult.

116
00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,479
Speaker 1: As women. It can be really difficult aging and having

117
00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,560
Speaker 1: your skin change. It's there's just all sorts of like, oh,

118
00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,760
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of I don't know skincare eras in

119
00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,400
Speaker 1: our lives.

120
00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,840
Speaker 4: Like I had teen I have terrible teen acne.

121
00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,040
Speaker 1: I think I got my first cystic ZiT when I

122
00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:59,080
Speaker 1: was eleven, and it just so happened to be center.

123
00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,160
Speaker 1: It is so painful, okayful, It's the only kind I've

124
00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,960
Speaker 1: ever had. It's that's the kind that I get, is systick,

125
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,800
Speaker 1: real fun. Ugh, what about you? Did you have it?

126
00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,320
Speaker 2: I was lucky. I did not really have both my

127
00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,280
Speaker 2: parents have very good skin. I did not have teen acty.

128
00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,000
Speaker 2: I had occasional pimples that I would rip the shit

129
00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:31,200
Speaker 2: out of because I didn't know how to. And I

130
00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,280
Speaker 2: used to really love I used to bruise my nose

131
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,920
Speaker 2: all the time as a teenager trying to get the

132
00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,679
Speaker 2: black hat black heads out just oh my god, I

133
00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,520
Speaker 2: loved doing it. I have loved skincare from like a

134
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,680
Speaker 2: very young age and so like the but like I'm

135
00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,960
Speaker 2: a if I see a pimple on someone else, like

136
00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,800
Speaker 2: I want to pop it save at him. Also one

137
00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,920
Speaker 2: of those people. And so that is as a teenager,

138
00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,840
Speaker 2: that was my to my detriment because I picked, like

139
00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,040
Speaker 2: and I if I did have something, I would pick

140
00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,320
Speaker 2: and my mom would yell at me. And then I

141
00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,680
Speaker 2: would bruise my nose all the time because I found

142
00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,320
Speaker 2: it so satisfying to get those little fuckers out of

143
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,280
Speaker 2: my nose. And yeah, that was something I had to

144
00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,360
Speaker 2: learn how to get better at. I had more acne

145
00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,320
Speaker 2: in my thirties than I did as a teenager.

146
00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,400
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm hm. Why do you think that is? Is like

147
00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,920
Speaker 4: hormone hormones or.

148
00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,520
Speaker 2: I think hormones, I think, I think, I think pregnancy

149
00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,920
Speaker 2: I had. I I had terrible skin during both my pregnancies.

150
00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,160
Speaker 1: I had the opposite. My skin was clear for the

151
00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,280
Speaker 1: first time in my life during my pregnancies.

152
00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,120
Speaker 4: Isn't that funny?

153
00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, nope, I had during my pregnancies, I had breakouts.

154
00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,920
Speaker 2: I had roseatia, I had eggzema.

155
00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,280
Speaker 1: I just remember you had range rashes.

156
00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, super dry, super flaky, Yeah, like just all over

157
00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,240
Speaker 2: the It was so annoying. But yeah, it's my skin

158
00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,880
Speaker 2: was wild during my pregnancies. I feel like, and then

159
00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,000
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, in between it was just like all

160
00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,840
Speaker 2: like hormonal shifts and stuff like, I yeah, started having

161
00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,199
Speaker 2: like more regular breakouts. I think in my thirties.

162
00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,720
Speaker 1: I didn't have.

163
00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,520
Speaker 4: I never had.

164
00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when you're a kid, you're just

165
00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 1: thinking about My first insecurities were based on, like, oh,

166
00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,040
Speaker 1: the color of my skin, right, because I grew up

167
00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,880
Speaker 1: in a really primarily white area, and so I was

168
00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,760
Speaker 1: really insecure about the fact that I was already different.

169
00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,680
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, my hair was cut

170
00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,960
Speaker 1: really really short, and I had these really big teeth

171
00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,480
Speaker 1: that were at the time really crooked, and so I

172
00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,679
Speaker 1: was already insecure about how I looked. And then when

173
00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,080
Speaker 1: eleven came and my acne started, it was just like,

174
00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,360
Speaker 1: oh ma, god, I'm a monster. I felt like a monster.

175
00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,079
Speaker 1: I did, and and like, and I know a lot

176
00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,560
Speaker 1: of people that struggle with acne feel the same way

177
00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,280
Speaker 1: or have felt the same way. And I think one

178
00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,680
Speaker 1: of the things that was so amazing and hard about

179
00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,840
Speaker 1: being on Brooklyn was that I had acne during shoots.

180
00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,679
Speaker 1: Like I struggled with acney while we were shooting, and

181
00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,880
Speaker 1: like sometimes it was really intense acne, Like particularly for me,

182
00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,840
Speaker 1: it would show up like in my chin or like

183
00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,720
Speaker 1: under my notes area, but they were like huge cysts,

184
00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,520
Speaker 1: and so you know, the makeup department did an incredible

185
00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,480
Speaker 1: job of covering stuff. And also sometimes they edited the

186
00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,280
Speaker 1: mountain post, which I didn't even know until.

187
00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:47,880
Speaker 4: I don't know.

188
00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,800
Speaker 1: I think it was like season five or something, and

189
00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,200
Speaker 1: I found that out and I was like, oh my god,

190
00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,400
Speaker 1: they're so bad that they're.

191
00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,960
Speaker 2: Taking them out in post production.

192
00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,160
Speaker 1: They're fucking special effects to make my skin look better.

193
00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,720
Speaker 4: And it took a really long time.

194
00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,199
Speaker 2: But I think it was also I don't think it

195
00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,440
Speaker 2: was like done, and I don't think it was done

196
00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,680
Speaker 2: for like in a I think it was done because

197
00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,840
Speaker 2: like everybody loves you, and they were like, oh, like

198
00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,440
Speaker 2: assumptions for sure, and they probably should have like run

199
00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,640
Speaker 2: it by you in the beginning, but.

200
00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,520
Speaker 4: I mean I would have loved it.

201
00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,160
Speaker 2: I think it was done the place of like, oh, like,

202
00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,400
Speaker 2: let's do this for stuff, like you know. I think

203
00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,000
Speaker 2: it was done from a place of like this looks

204
00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,480
Speaker 2: so terrible, we need to get rid of it. I

205
00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,079
Speaker 2: mean it's done from that place.

206
00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,760
Speaker 4: Very sweet Melissa.

207
00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,920
Speaker 1: I think it was probably done from a place of

208
00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,080
Speaker 1: like this is very distracting and the audience is going

209
00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,000
Speaker 1: to be looking at that pimple instead of listening to

210
00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,080
Speaker 1: the jokes or the storyline. And we only have twenty

211
00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,480
Speaker 1: two minutes to get stuff across. Let's just take that

212
00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,439
Speaker 1: distraction away, you know, Yeah, I don't I mean, I

213
00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:55,360
Speaker 1: don't know.

214
00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,079
Speaker 2: We didn't do too many close ups.

215
00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean Hollywood's tiffic because you're held

216
00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,040
Speaker 1: up to the standards that are really impossible. They're really

217
00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:12,280
Speaker 1: impossible standards, and you know, uh, we are working actors.

218
00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,560
Speaker 1: We've been really, really lucky in our lives, and yet

219
00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,040
Speaker 1: we are not the kind of actors that can you know,

220
00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,040
Speaker 1: purchase I don't know, one hundred thousand dollars machines and

221
00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:22,600
Speaker 1: have them.

222
00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,280
Speaker 4: In our houses.

223
00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,480
Speaker 1: Like like right, you know, like some actors I've overheard

224
00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,360
Speaker 1: in the makeup trailer have I won't know, but like

225
00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,600
Speaker 1: really beautiful people, I will really beautiful people work hard

226
00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,080
Speaker 1: to be that beautiful, right, like, at least in Hollywood. Like,

227
00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,960
Speaker 1: if you start that beautiful with like beautiful, perfect clear skin,

228
00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,680
Speaker 1: you're working hard and investing to make sure it stays

229
00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,520
Speaker 1: that way. And if you don't start that way, you're

230
00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,280
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to get your skin that way,

231
00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,600
Speaker 1: and then yeah, you know, not everybody can afford to

232
00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,760
Speaker 1: take these big you know, not everyone can afford to

233
00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,880
Speaker 1: do stuff like this with their skin. But as we

234
00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of I feel like, as we become this global

235
00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,760
Speaker 1: community where we have access to all sorts of stuff,

236
00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,000
Speaker 1: like different kinds of skincare from different countries, where we

237
00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,600
Speaker 1: have access to like how people look in different countries,

238
00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:25,079
Speaker 1: beauty standards of different countries, we're starting to measure ourselves against,

239
00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, what the rest of the world might do,

240
00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,640
Speaker 1: and like that can be really hard on yourself. Like

241
00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,600
Speaker 1: there's this whole idea right now about having like glass skin,

242
00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,640
Speaker 1: Korean skincare and yea skin, right and like one things

243
00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,920
Speaker 1: I find really interesting about this And I just listened

244
00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,120
Speaker 1: to another podcast that I highly recommend called pop Syllabus,

245
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,960
Speaker 1: and they did a whole episode about skincare, Korean skincare specifically,

246
00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,200
Speaker 1: and they had this writer on who had like deep

247
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,199
Speaker 1: dived into Korean skincare, and she was talking about how

248
00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,080
Speaker 1: it's an export industry that like creates a huge amount

249
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,280
Speaker 1: of income for South Korea, and that the beauty standards

250
00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:14,360
Speaker 1: and the gender identities, how gendered the sexes are in

251
00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:20,120
Speaker 1: South Korea. In Korea is like really intense that people

252
00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,080
Speaker 1: often she's I believe she's like Chinese American. I might

253
00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,960
Speaker 1: be getting that wrong, but she was talking about how

254
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,360
Speaker 1: she had this like really high up job and when

255
00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,920
Speaker 1: she was working in Korea, people would be like, wait,

256
00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,640
Speaker 1: but where's your boss, and she'd be like, I'm the

257
00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,520
Speaker 1: boss because she was a woman, right, And so the

258
00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,880
Speaker 1: standards of beauty that are being pushed on us that

259
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,880
Speaker 1: like they're really high standards. I mean, like the Korean

260
00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,440
Speaker 1: standard of beauty, the Korean skincare standard of beauty is

261
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,360
Speaker 1: so high. It's so intense. You have to have this

262
00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,720
Speaker 1: like flawless face and its use over everything, and that's

263
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,160
Speaker 1: really Yeah, that's a hard one because like I mean, it's.

264
00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,680
Speaker 2: Hard, man. And like the pressure also, like the pressure

265
00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,040
Speaker 2: of all the whole influencer economy on social media and

266
00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,160
Speaker 2: like the filters, and it's like who do you trust

267
00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:22,160
Speaker 2: and how do you easy? The filters are crazy and

268
00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,440
Speaker 2: they're like indistinguishable sometimes.

269
00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean I listen, I made a TikTok the other

270
00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,400
Speaker 1: day and after I made it, I was like, oh, no,

271
00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,240
Speaker 1: I should have put a Like I had this thought

272
00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,680
Speaker 1: of like I should put a filter on my skin

273
00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,560
Speaker 1: because you can see my acne scars, and I was like,

274
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna post it anyway. I'm gonna

275
00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,720
Speaker 1: post it anyway.

276
00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,800
Speaker 2: And I have definitely used a filter a lot of

277
00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,080
Speaker 2: times on a story where I've just been like, oh,

278
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,760
Speaker 2: I put no makeup on, these under eye bags are bagging,

279
00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,240
Speaker 2: and then I just did the little swipe and that

280
00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,280
Speaker 2: first one is just so subtle, and I'm like and

281
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,000
Speaker 2: then people will be like, your skin looks amazing, and

282
00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's a filter, babe, it's.

283
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,800
Speaker 4: A filter, babe, it's a filter.

284
00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to them that I did have that thought

285
00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,360
Speaker 1: because I'd been watching a bunch of tiktoks before and

286
00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,240
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, everyone's skin looks so beautiful.

287
00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,800
Speaker 4: And then like you look close and it's.

288
00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,720
Speaker 1: Like because everyone's surprised or doing something weird because the

289
00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,360
Speaker 1: filter is not matching your movement.

290
00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will.

291
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,560
Speaker 1: I will say, well, we're talking today and like we

292
00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,200
Speaker 1: might drop some products that like we actually use. None

293
00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,720
Speaker 1: of this is sponsored. None of it's like, I don't

294
00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,240
Speaker 1: have any sponsorship feels.

295
00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,200
Speaker 4: But if they do.

296
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,880
Speaker 1: Want to sponsor us, people do send us free stuff sometimes,

297
00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,320
Speaker 1: like I've gotten skincare.

298
00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,160
Speaker 4: For free before. Yes, I have as well.

299
00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,520
Speaker 1: Not all of it works, you know, like I'm only

300
00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,000
Speaker 1: going to talk.

301
00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,000
Speaker 4: About the stuff that works.

302
00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, more better, more better, Okay, real quick.

303
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,880
Speaker 4: We talked about this a little before we got going.

304
00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,920
Speaker 1: But one of the things that's like a trend is, well,

305
00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,639
Speaker 1: there's a ton of skincare trends on TikTok or like,

306
00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,199
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's so many of them. One that

307
00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, don't wash your face first thing when

308
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,760
Speaker 1: you wake up. Now, I am pro washing my face

309
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,400
Speaker 1: in the morning. You are, You're like, it depends, it depends, you.

310
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,879
Speaker 2: Know, it depends. I I do rinse with water in

311
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,359
Speaker 2: the morning.

312
00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:26,639
Speaker 1: I do do that.

313
00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,240
Speaker 4: I do.

314
00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,520
Speaker 2: I do rinse with water. But my I have skin

315
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,640
Speaker 2: that can be very dry at times, Like my skin

316
00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,000
Speaker 2: lean's very dry. So I found for me, I mean,

317
00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,399
Speaker 2: I have found gentle cleansers that I like that I

318
00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,720
Speaker 2: probably could use in the morning and it would be fine.

319
00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,520
Speaker 2: But I've had periods in my life where I was

320
00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,560
Speaker 2: washing in the morning and I just felt like my

321
00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,440
Speaker 2: skin like was like drying, like it was too much.

322
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,800
Speaker 2: I probably was just using the wrong cleansers and using

323
00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,479
Speaker 2: things that were too harsh, and that's when I switched

324
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,159
Speaker 2: to just rinsing with water in the morning, and for me,

325
00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,960
Speaker 2: I found like that that worked well. But I also

326
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 2: work out most mornings, and I do wash my face

327
00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,800
Speaker 2: after a workout, so I kind of am washing my

328
00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,879
Speaker 2: face in the morning, but I have always been really

329
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,240
Speaker 2: good about washing it at night.

330
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,320
Speaker 4: So I have to wash my face before you.

331
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,959
Speaker 2: Watch before your workout.

332
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:28,960
Speaker 4: I have to.

333
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,280
Speaker 1: I have to wash my face when I wake up.

334
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,000
Speaker 2: Like in the morning first thing, yes.

335
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,919
Speaker 1: Because not necessarily the first thing, like maybe I'll have

336
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,400
Speaker 1: my coffee or something, but like and like sometimes maybe

337
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,280
Speaker 1: I'll get on the bike, like if it's not too whatever.

338
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,800
Speaker 1: But like for me, my skin is the opposite of yours.

339
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,359
Speaker 1: It's really oily, like it produces a lot of oil

340
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,000
Speaker 1: and seabum. So like what a lot of times what

341
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,919
Speaker 1: I'll do is I'll take like my cellar water on

342
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 1: a cotton pad, and I like the kind of mar

343
00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,320
Speaker 1: mysell a lot of water that is French, So I

344
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,679
Speaker 1: use like the French kind of kid. But you can

345
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,120
Speaker 1: find it in your drug store. You can find it

346
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 1: like online. It's not that expensive. And I just put

347
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 1: a little on a cotton pad and like do a

348
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,280
Speaker 1: quick swipe and then I flip the cotton pad over,

349
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,159
Speaker 1: get a little like water from the sink on it,

350
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 1: and then do another quick quick swipe so it gets

351
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,159
Speaker 1: like the my cellar.

352
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 4: Water all the way off.

353
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 1: But when I look at that cotton pad with the

354
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 1: my cellar water side on it, it's oily. Is she oily?

355
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 4: And like there's like skin on.

356
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 1: It, like you know what I mean, Like is she oily? Yeah?

357
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 4: So like yeah, I can't.

358
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 1: I can't. I could never just like start my day

359
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 1: and like put on my sunscreen without washing my face

360
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: because the amount of oil that's coming out of my

361
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: face at night. Plus the fact that like you know,

362
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 1: even if your pillowcase is clean, there's like dirt on it.

363
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 4: Your hair might be oily.

364
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 1: There's like dust, you know, particles again in your bed,

365
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 1: your all off. Like I just I mean that's for

366
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: the oily and like combination skin girls. For dry skin girls,

367
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 1: it's probably a totally different story. I don't know. I've

368
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 1: never had dry skin, never had that issue, so like

369
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: I know, you know, like I know, and I feel

370
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 1: like I shower at night and I and I washed

371
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: my face at night, so like I'm like how dirty

372
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 1: is my pillow?

373
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know after slick.

374
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's a slick right now, like like my

375
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 1: skin is my skin, I mean she's moisturized right now,

376
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: but like when I wake up, there's like a significant.

377
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 4: Amount of oil like around my nostrils. It's it's wild.

378
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: And my dermatologist is always like, You're gonna look young forever,

379
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm motherfucking better, motherfucking.

380
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: I have heard that I have your I have another

381
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 2: friend who has oily skin, and someone told him the

382
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: same thing oily skin does at wrinkle. Oily skin says

383
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: young looking longer us dry gurlzer fucked because we just yeah, I.

384
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 1: Don't know about that.

385
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 4: I might, but.

386
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: My skin is so dry in my like a really

387
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: young age, like my twenties. I feel like I got

388
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: into cold cream because I.

389
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: Was like, this is amazing, like to take her makeup

390
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: and slugging.

391
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 4: Have you ever done that?

392
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? I love slugging. Slugging like if I'm going through it, Nope, slugging. So,

393
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: for those who don't know, slugging is you put a

394
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: very very small thin layer of what are they called

395
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: acute ecclusives, so like AA or or I like.

396
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 4: Aqua for the best, yes, clean other stuff like that.

397
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: And you do it as the last step of your

398
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: night routine, so you like put whatever moisturizer, whatever you

399
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: put at night, and then if you are experiencing dryness,

400
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: I do it after traveling. I do it anytime, a

401
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: lot of times in winter sometimes I'll.

402
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: Do it.

403
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: And it just like creates a seat and then you

404
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning and like it's true, you're

405
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: just looks like like like a drink all night, Like

406
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: it's just super hydrated. Yeah, if you have dry skin

407
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: as slugging as I highly recommend, but yeah, don't. I

408
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 2: think sometimes people you have to use a very tiny amount,

409
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: Like you're not slathering your face an aquafor you're just

410
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 2: like pick you know, picture putting like a sheet masks

411
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 2: worth of aquafor over your skin. I mean, like I

412
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: also will do Like the sleeping masks are really great too,

413
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, uh, there's like the the collagen ones

414
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: that you sleep with. I've definitely ripped those off my

415
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: face in the middle of the night because it's just

416
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: weird for me to sleep with anything like on physically

417
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: on my face. I'll wake up in the morning and

418
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: like find it on the floor. But I like the ones.

419
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: There's there's one. This is the first time I'll say

420
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: a brand by doctor Jart that is an overnight intensive

421
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 2: sleeping as it's sort of a jelly kind of consistency

422
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: and you put it on your face and it dries

423
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: so you don't feel you know, it's not sticky, but

424
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: you sleep with that. What's wild is like in the morning,

425
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: I'll wake up and I won't feel anything until I

426
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: put water on my face and then I feel it like, oh,

427
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: like I'm washing it off because it's yeah, it gets

428
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: like I feel that like jelly texture again. But those

429
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: have been really good, especially when I'm working again, when

430
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm traveling or in winter when my skin is real

431
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: dry and thirsty.

432
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: And you know, this is the thing about taking advice

433
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: about skin, It's like it's really it can be tricky

434
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: because you have to sort of listen and learn and

435
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: try things, and yeah, it is like yours because we.

436
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: Have really different That's the biggest.

437
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: I just could never do that.

438
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I my skin is so oily and it's

439
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: less so now that after like I I had a

440
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: really long journey with acne and then you know, long

441
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: story short, I had started taking acutane and for me,

442
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: it really worked. It doesn't work for everyone, but it

443
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: really worked for me. And ever since then, it's been

444
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: a lot less oily.

445
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 4: Now that being said, I did get appeal like.

446
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: About oh two months ago, and my skin has been

447
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot My skin's been a lot more oily since

448
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 1: the peal, like interesting, I don't know what the deal is,

449
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: but I don't like it. I don't like it. And

450
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: it's also been more sensitive. I don't know if it's

451
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: just like because the barrier was kind of like burned

452
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: off or whatever. But I don't know, but maybe I

453
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: wish I wish it wasn't uh having this reaction. I

454
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: do think like some of my malasma, which is like

455
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: you no, uh well ass was like a reaction.

456
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: It can be a reaction to hormones.

457
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: A lot of people get it when they're pregnant.

458
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: It can be a reaction to too much fun.

459
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: The hyperpigmentation.

460
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: It really shows up a lot on my face, and

461
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: so that was part of what I wanted to get

462
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: rid of. And I don't know that I would do

463
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: that peel again.

464
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 4: I don't know.

465
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: It was a laser excuse me it was a laser.

466
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: Oh it was a laser. Okay, that was like yeah, not,

467
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean that's the tricky thing, like you said, It's

468
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: like for me, it's been Yeah, it's like figuring out

469
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 2: what your skin type is and and you know, wadding

470
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: through the like world of influencers, because there are some

471
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: really good ones out there. I think for me, it

472
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: was helpful for me to find other ones that had

473
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: similar skin issues or similar skin and were like kind

474
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: of exclusively talking about that.

475
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

476
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that is what helped me find products that

477
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: worked for me, or skin treatments that worked for me,

478
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: or routines that worked better for me. It's like you

479
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: can't just you know. That's why, like I kind of

480
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: hate when people are like, stop this the skin routine girl,

481
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but I could. But unless you have

482
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: like my specific skin type, uh, all this stuff might

483
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: not work for you and it might be just a

484
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: complete waste of your time and money. You know. So

485
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: it's like I don't I don't love like everyone, you know,

486
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: like sharing. I mean, I'm okay with people sharing their

487
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 2: skin routines, but with like the caveat of like this

488
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: is the kind of skin I have this is my

489
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: history of skin, like I've had issues or I haven't

490
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: had issues, and like giving that disclaimer because if I

491
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: don't relate to any of that, I'm a scroll. Like

492
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm anna move on because anything you say is not

493
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: going to be useful or helpful for me. Yeah, there is,

494
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: Like it is a multi million dollar into that wants

495
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: you to buy all the things and have a ten step.

496
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: Don't you think that that's time though, Like I mean,

497
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: I think that's trial and part of that is trial

498
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: and error, Like I wish I had had a lot

499
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: of it is trial and Yeah, somebody older than me

500
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: or like a big sister, a cousin or an auntie

501
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: or something that had said like.

502
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't have like any of the women in

503
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: your family.

504
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: No, because my mom had gorgeous skin that she's now

505
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: regretting she didn't wear sunscreen. She's like she talks about

506
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: it a lot. She's like, I should have worn sunscreene.

507
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you girls are wearing sunscreen now. You know,

508
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: I should have worn sunscreen because my mom was like,

509
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: you know, bathing beauty, it's just always out in the sun,

510
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: like you know, super brown tan gorgeous skin and like

511
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: she's still to this day. I'd be like, did she

512
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: put sunscreen on her legs? And she's like no, because

513
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: her legs are all brown. And you know, so I

514
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: think like a lot of it is trial and error, unfortunately.

515
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: I mean even for me, like in the in in

516
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: our industry, it was like a lot of trial and error,

517
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: like and and people will.

518
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: People will say, well, this is what worked for me,

519
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: you know.

520
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: Or I remember being on a set and they handed

521
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: me Proactive and they were like, you should take this home.

522
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 1: And in my mind, I was like, I've been unproactive.

523
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: I hate proactive. I hate what it does to my skin.

524
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it works for other people, but like it just

525
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: was not for me. And the makeup artist was like

526
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: you need you need this, and I was like m hmm,

527
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: and I.

528
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: Told you, yeah, that's rude.

529
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: Oh it's so rude, I think, you know, at the time,

530
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: I was like a nobody, and she I had a

531
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: small part of the pilot super annoyed that she had

532
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: to cover my pimples, and so like, you know, she

533
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: took it out on me, which is like whatever, I'll remember,

534
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: I remember, and then you know, other stuff like uh, well, okay,

535
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this, what is your skincare routine?

536
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: Now?

537
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: I know you don't do a lot in the morning necessarily.

538
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: I don't do a lot in the morning. I think,

539
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, I've sort of always listen. I've always loved

540
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: skincare from like a young age, and I did. The

541
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: women in my family were bossy when it came to skincare.

542
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: Like my mom had great skin, but she was like,

543
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: you never go to bed without washing your face. If

544
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: you have makeup on, you do not go to bed

545
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: with that makeup on your face. Like drilled it into

546
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: my brain that, Like, it wasn't until I got to

547
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: college and I the first time I said in front

548
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: of other girls, I was like, oh, well, you never

549
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: go to sleep with makeup on? And they were like,

550
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: what I mean sometimes you're drunk or you're tired, And

551
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, And I realized I was

552
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: like like an outlier like that I was, I don't

553
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: I could probably count the number of times I went

554
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: to bed with makeup on my face. So I did

555
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: that since like a teenage, teenage, young age, and whenever

556
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: we were on the beach. My mom is also the

557
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: same or like she won't put sunscreen on her legs,

558
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: but the sunscreen is always going on her face. And

559
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: then my aunt and some my ideas would be like

560
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: I remember being like sixteen years old and my tailor

561
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: Leanna being on the beach being like, listen, you're always

562
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: gonna put sunscreen on your face, rest your body. Who cares?

563
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: But and you're always gonna wear a hat. If you're

564
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: on the beach, you're gonna wear a hat. Where's your hat?

565
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: Do you have a hat?

566
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: I have an extra one for you. And they just

567
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: were like very yeah, like drilled that into my into

568
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: me at a very young age. So I had good

569
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: habits from the beginning and now and then during the pandemic,

570
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: I also got really into skincare. I think as like

571
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: a way I had a newborn and we were locked up,

572
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: and it was like kind of a way to escape

573
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: and like kind of a way to like do some

574
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: self care or something like I would look forward to it.

575
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: I did. There was this esthetician that was doing these

576
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: like at home facial kits, and like kind of learned

577
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: how to give myself a little bit of a facial

578
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: and I really looked forward to it. So that was

579
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: all a disclaimer to say, as you were saying, a

580
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: lot of trial and error, I think I finally, thank God,

581
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: in my forties, have gone to a place where I've

582
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: figured out the things that work for me. But yeah,

583
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: it's pretty simple. I splashed my face with water in

584
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: the morning, I do a serum. I do a vitamin

585
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: C serum because I find with my somewhat melanated skin,

586
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: vitamin C has been really good for evening evening. Is

587
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: that right? Evening tone?

588
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: Evening? As it sound weird, it sounds like evening, it's evening.

589
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Then it sounds like it's in the evening.

590
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: Because I have tendency sometimes for like platon, I don't

591
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: I've never gotten malasma and I'm lucky, but I get

592
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: little freckles or just like parts of my face that

593
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: will be darker like my chin area than like the

594
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: rest of my face. And Vitamin C has been very,

595
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: very good for that. I haven't had those inch issues

596
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: since I started using it consistently. And then moisturizer because

597
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: as we said, I'm a dry girly, and sunscreen that's

598
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: it in the morning and at night it's probably even

599
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: simpler because at night it's this new like peptide serum

600
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: that I really like, and then a retinol and that's it.

601
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: What's the peptides unless.

602
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm going through well, I'm going to look it up

603
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: right now. I know it's medic eight, which is a

604
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: newer brand. I learned about it through an esthetician that

605
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: I really like on Instagram called Charlotte Palmer. I found

606
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: her because she also has a lot of similar skin

607
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: issues to me. She's own to perioral dermatitis. I actually

608
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: learned how to take care of.

609
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Perioal dermatitis, uh through like her Instagram and her talking

610
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: about it.

611
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: She the one that owns uh do she owns do? Yes?

612
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: She owns do. I started following her on early on

613
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: when they just and that's the serum that I really

614
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: that I use, that I really like for me.

615
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

616
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: As I said, I'm like I had rose Shaw when

617
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: I was pregnant. I'm prone to redness. I'm prone. I

618
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: haven't had like a lot of acne in my life,

619
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 2: but I've had a lot of rashes. I've had a

620
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: lot of like red bumps with no pause like maybe Roseesha,

621
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: maybe Ezhema anyway, just prone to like kind of redness

622
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: in my cheeks, and I found that her serum because

623
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: she formulated it for herself and she has a lot

624
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: of the same issues, really worked for my skin. And

625
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: so she started talking about this brand, medic eight. So

626
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: it's me e DK and then like literally the number eight.

627
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: Oh heare liquid peptides, thirty percent complex multi peptide age

628
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: defying serum. Uh So, I don't know. It's like a

629
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: bunch of peptides, and I read the pepties are good

630
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: when you getting older, and it's also hydrating, and it

631
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: also is helps your I think it helps your skin

632
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: like absorb other products. So I actually, you know you're

633
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: supposed to use retinol either on like a very I

634
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: also don't use like for me, prescription strength, retinal retine

635
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 2: whatever is like too much. My skin will like flake

636
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: off and fall off for me. Right, I found just

637
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 2: like regular skin care brands. I'm actually right now trying

638
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: out different brands to see which one I like the best.

639
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: I don't know that I've found one that I really love,

640
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: although there is one. There's a you can buy it

641
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: on a French pharmacy. It's a cult one. It's called

642
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: a three one three. So it's actually like a item

643
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: in a palmade it really.

644
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: Actually really good for your skin because it's got like

645
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: so good.

646
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ima to go back to that.

647
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: It's a the carrier in that stuff is a like

648
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: almost like a vacline or a Yeah, yes it.

649
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: Has that extra but it's strong. And I found that

650
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: when I was using that, it wasn't like an every

651
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 2: night thing I've been trying to find.

652
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: Like immediately when I tried that, you.

653
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Did, I had like I had like almost glass skin

654
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: when I used it. Yes, I broke out differently, different

655
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: strokes for different folks.

656
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: Different strokes, different strokes for different folks.

657
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: What's your routine, Like, what's your morning routine?

658
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: Like? Okay, so I washed my face usually with like

659
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: a Sarah VI or something like that, not the milky cleanser,

660
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: but like a foaming cleanser because like I said that, I.

661
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: Like all their cleansers.

662
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have to get it all off. Sometimes

663
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: I use a disposable sponge. I know, disposal shunges aren't

664
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: that great for the environment.

665
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 4: I'm aware.

666
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't use them every morning, but I sometimes use them,

667
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: and then I go in with a toner. It's called

668
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: I believe it's called like Tonic D twenty two, Tonic

669
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: from this company called Danu Sarah.

670
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: I think Danie.

671
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: Sarah see toners. Could never find a toner that my

672
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: skin liked. Always broke out into a rash, always broke

673
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: out into like some kind of redness irritated. I've never

674
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: been able to fuck with toner's.

675
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: You probably just don't need one. I mean, like this

676
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: toner has. I think it has like a bunch of

677
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: acids in it, so it helps, like you know, my

678
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: skin sluff off that skin cells.

679
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: But it's by using it.

680
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: And then I use it's called like acne care or something. Again,

681
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: it has like other acids in it, like a salsilic

682
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: acid in it. And then after that, I use this

683
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: stuff that I read about called I mix this with

684
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: my sunscreen. I don't use a moisturizer in the morning

685
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: because I don't need one. I have enough moisture with

686
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: just my sunscreen. Right. I mix this stuff called DNA

687
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: Total Repair with my sunscreen. My sunscreen is SPF fifty.

688
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: I think it is a Korean sunscreen, which means it

689
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have like physical uh blockers. I think like Korean

690
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: sunscreen screens oftentimes have more like chemical sun block.

691
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, m hmm, Yeah, so I don't know how.

692
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Or like they have better filters than we have. I

693
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: also learned this from Charlotte Palmer. The US hasn't approved

694
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: like a new filter for sunscreens since like the late

695
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 2: eighties or nineties, And meanwhile Europe has approved a bunch

696
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: of news like their sunscreen is just much more advanced

697
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: for ours. We also have the problem here of like

698
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: people have vilified like chemical sunscreen and like push the

699
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: like all natural you know, zinc. But for anybody who's

700
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: not white, it's real hard to use those natural sunscreens

701
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: because they all they all have a white cast, like

702
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 2: they just do and they look like on.

703
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: Your skin and if it works for you, sure, but

704
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: not for I.

705
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: No.

706
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: I use a Korean sunscreen too that I really like. Yeah,

707
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: I I I don't care. I don't think it's I

708
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: don't think it's that.

709
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I have spoken to a

710
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: couple estheticians who are like, you really need to be

711
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: using something that has physical sunscreen in it, just because

712
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: my skin gets these dark spot you can see right here,

713
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: but like if you can't if you're not watching this,

714
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: like I have dark spots from where pimples were, and

715
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: so she was like, those dark spots they do respond

716
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: really like well to being protected by sunscreen that has

717
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: whatever I don't.

718
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 4: Know, I mean, did I teach my sunscreen?

719
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: No? Uh, did I order some when my company faded

720
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: that are gonna like helpfully just the right thing. And

721
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: then like basically at night I do the same thing

722
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: except a couple of times a week, I'd like, uh

723
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: use and I haven't I haven't really been using it

724
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: for very long, but ten mm hmmm yeah, And so

725
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,479
Speaker 1: I just started that and so like maybe that could

726
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: be like why I'm breaking on. I know people are like, oh,

727
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: your skin's purging. I'm like, this doesn't feel like a purge,

728
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: just feels like acne. So like, right, I do like

729
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: the idea of using a vitamin C serum. That's something

730
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: that I'm not doing right now. Maybe I can add

731
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: in in the morning. And then also like sometimes it

732
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: really is guess in check because like I do like

733
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: that down to Sarah Toner, it's called I'm almost yeah,

734
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: it's called D twenty two tonic. But I had also

735
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: ordered their face cream with peptides in it, and like

736
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: you would probably love it. It was so creamy and

737
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: nice and it felt so good and it started breaking

738
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: down and I was like.

739
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: And it was like fancy, I bought it for myself

740
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 4: for Christmas. Like oh, sometimes it just sucks because it

741
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 4: really is.

742
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: It's a it's guess in check and you can't return

743
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: stuff that like you opened and used, you know, and

744
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: it's fucking brutal. That's like again, that's why I would

745
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: say a couple of names of stuff of things that

746
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: like really really work for me, and like the stuff

747
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: not cheap, like this is not cheap. No, And that's

748
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: why a lot of dermatologists are like, look, you only

749
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: really need a few things, and like it's kind of true,

750
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: but for some of us it's kind of not. Like

751
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like saying like you need you know,

752
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know what that's like. Saying

753
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: it's like.

754
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: All you need is like I don't even know.

755
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that's like saying.

756
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: But moisturizer and sunscreen and I'm like, yeah, yeah, it

757
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: makes it work for everyone, especially as you get older,

758
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: and like yeah, I you know, but I do think

759
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: that there are because the skincare industry is so vast,

760
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: Like there's really good dupes out there. I know that's

761
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: like a controversial thing with some people.

762
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: There's the whole industry of girls of women. There's a

763
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: whole industry of that are out there showing us what

764
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: dupes are doing the work.

765
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: And then there's also, like you said, Sarah V. Saravi

766
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: is a great frickin' line. Like their moisturizers are great. There,

767
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: cleansers are great. Half the time, I use like set,

768
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: especially if I'm having irritation or my skin is reaction

769
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: reactive set of fils. Like the first thing I buy

770
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: is like the set of flat clensor, and I go

771
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: back to just like the simple you know, when I'm

772
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: having like perioral dermatitis, which is like a weird rash

773
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: and nobody knows why it happens, and like event if

774
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: I guess past a certain point, I've had times where

775
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: I've been able to like make it go away if

776
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: I catch it real, real fast. But most of the

777
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: time you have to go on antibiotics. They don't even

778
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: know why antibiotics work, but that's the only thing. It

779
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: takes it away. But when I do that, it's like

780
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: I stop any of the active serums. I go back

781
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: to like set of phil Then I really am like

782
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: wash moisturized sunscreen, like because I have to because my

783
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: skin gets so reactive. And so then it's just like

784
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: whatever simple moisturizers that I like, I go back to those. Uh,

785
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: because I already said it, the doctor chartline is actually

786
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: really really good for those times. They have some products

787
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: that are for like sensitivity and uh, just like when

788
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: your skin's being like angry, that are that I I

789
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: I go buy those.

790
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: More better.

791
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: I have to say, like before we wrap this up,

792
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: I want to say, obviously we're talking from our own experiences.

793
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: We're talking about stuff that we purchase. Right if you

794
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: have other like needs like let's say you're vegan, or

795
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: like you don't want to use anything that's tested on animals,

796
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: or if you have like feelings about like certain companies

797
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: and you don't want to use their stuff, and like

798
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: we get it. Like that's but that just to be clear,

799
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: like that's.

800
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: We're not the end all. We're not Charlotte, Like we're not.

801
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: No, I'm just we're just having a question about Like

802
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like the thing that I am coming away

803
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: with for me today is like, oh, I probably should

804
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: use a vitamin C serum because like I do have

805
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: discoloration and that might be something that I could include

806
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: in my routine. That it's just like a simple add

807
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: in and there's probably a bunch out there and I'm

808
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: going to do some research, but like that's probably something

809
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: that I'm missing. That's something that I'm missing. And then

810
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: another is like my reminder about, oh yeah, some stuff

811
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: just doesn't work for me, Like some stuff just doesn't work.

812
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: That's okay, I don't have to try it. Okay, everyone

813
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: else is trying it. It's like some stuff just doesn't

814
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: work for me. Yeah.

815
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: And the other thing I would just add is like

816
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: I because I learned this the hard way, I think although, like, uh,

817
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: trial and error that we've been talking about is really important.

818
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: Like if if you like skincare, if this stuff is

819
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: important to you, if you want to get better at

820
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: it one product at a time, like keep every keep

821
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: your shit the same, whatever you're doing now, and pick

822
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: one thing that you want to like find a better

823
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: option for whether it's a vitamin C or a moisturizer

824
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 2: or whatever, and just do that. Because I have learned

825
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: the hard way what I've been Like how much I'm

826
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: a I'm a redo my whole routine, and then my

827
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: face freaks out in a rash.

828
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know, what

829
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: could it be.

830
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying five new products at the same time. Yeah,

831
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: so want one thing, one issue or a thing at

832
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: a time is my little don't be lucky you.

833
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: Feel a little more better about skincare. I do.

834
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: I actually really like talking about skincare. I love it.

835
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I can tell.

836
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: Do you feel more better about that?

837
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: I feel annoyed that I have acting right now? And

838
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: that's okay, I know, I know it's a yes. It

839
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: was like the second that it can be a tough topic. Yeah,

840
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean that too. Yeah, but you will figure it out.

841
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: It will get there, I promise you.

842
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: And like you said, you started a new thing, and

843
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: so maybe you're in that, like maybe the new thing

844
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: is not going.

845
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: To work for you.

846
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Maybe not a teaker though, it's like, come on, just yo,

847
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: But Treentonen is really like a strong product. I don't

848
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: think treton Owen would work for me either. That's why

849
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: I told you.

850
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find like a like a retinal cream

851
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 2: that I can use daily. So I'm getting a little

852
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: bit every day. I think for me that would be

853
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: more beneficial, and maybe the same is true for you,

854
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: or maybe you just have to like give it more

855
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: time and then it's going to be amazing for you,

856
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: because that's also the journey with Trettono and sometimes.

857
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: Honestly things at one time, which is that that's probably

858
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: really what it is. Oh, it's biojerma over water. That's

859
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: what I was thinking of.

860
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I have. I love that stuff.

861
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: Okay, well, well we did it. Happy visits are gone,

862
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Bye bye, More and More Better. Do you have something

863
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: you'd like to be more better at that you want

864
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: us to talk about in a future episode.

865
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried

866
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: one of our tips and tricks?

867
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: Shoot us your thoughts and ideas at Morebetter pod at

868
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: gmail dot com and include a voice note if you

869
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: want to be featured on the pod. Oh More Better

870
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: with Stephanie Melissa is a production from WV Sound and

871
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: iHeartMedia's Mika podcast network, hosted by Me, Stephanie Beatriz, and

872
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: Melissa Fumira. More Better is produced by Isis Madrid and

873
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: Sophie Spencer's.

874
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: A books our Executive producers are Stephanie Beatrice, myself, Melissa Kamearrow,

875
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: along with Wilmar Valderrama and Leo Clem at w V

876
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 2: Sound and ISIS Madrid. This episode was edited by ISIS

877
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: Madrid and engineered by Sean Tracy and features original music

878
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: by Madison Davenport and Hello Boy. Our cover art is

879
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: by Vincent Remis and photography by David Abolos. For more

880
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: podcasts from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or

881
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,959
Speaker 2: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. See you next week,

882
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: Sugas Bye,