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Speaker 2: So Michael vari show is on the air several times

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Speaker 2: over the years, I've told the story of my father.

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Speaker 2: The last time he drove, the diabetes got the better

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Speaker 2: I bought him a new truck, was the first new

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Speaker 2: He just made excuses to drive around places. And there

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Speaker 2: It's very, very dangerous, but it's never happened while he

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Speaker 2: so he must have been trying to stop. He doesn't remember,

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Speaker 2: The guy happens to have nursing training and gets some

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Speaker 2: case something ever happens. Saved my dad's life. Most people

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Speaker 2: just sometimes in life, how grateful you My dad wouldn't

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Speaker 2: you just never know when you're going to have an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to change or even save a life. Liberty County

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Speaker 2: Sheriff's Office posted yesterday. On April sixteenth, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: Deputy Austin Wistman was headed home from an extra job

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Speaker 2: who was driving a raddic. Deputy Whisman conducted a traffic

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Speaker 2: Can you ask him if it's Whispman or Wiseman, it's

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Speaker 2: Whisma n Upon contacting the driver and only occupant of

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Speaker 2: just retired from the military after serving for twenty two years.

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Speaker 2: He then told Deputy Whisman that his wife of nineteen

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Speaker 2: Wispman sat on the side of the road and spoke

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Speaker 2: mail looked at Deputy Whisman and told him that he

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Speaker 2: was his saving angel. The mail also told Deputy Whisman

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Speaker 2: that had it not been for his kindness and compassion

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Speaker 2: Stuff had brought him a gift and a note. The

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Speaker 2: mail gave Deputy Whisman an official US Naval True North

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Speaker 2: compass that was presented to him at his last post

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Speaker 2: as chief. The note read as follows, Austin, sometimes when

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Speaker 2: we're fighting demons, God sends us help. I was in

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Speaker 2: a hurry to complete a mission, but you stopped me

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Speaker 2: and you lent a kind ear. You treated me with compassion,

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Speaker 2: dignity and respect. Popo, he said, POOPO get a bad

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Speaker 2: Deputy Austin Wisman of the Liberty County Sheriff's department. I

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Speaker 2: don't know whether to say congratulations, wow, baby, I'm a maid.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to react. That's incredible, just incredible.

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Speaker 3: You're up, sir, are you It's a it's a good

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Speaker 2: How long have you been a Sheriff's devide?

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Speaker 4: I'm right at six and a half years.

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Speaker 2: What made you want to serve?

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Speaker 4: And I just remember seeing her uniform one day and

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Speaker 2: And what is your usual shift? What time did did

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Speaker 4: So, yes, I was. I typically worked a five am

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Speaker 4: It was about ten PM. I'm never out that late.

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Speaker 2: So do you allow yourself to listen to dis sermon

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Speaker 4: I typically pay attention to working because that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: And how often do you work that extra job that

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Speaker 4: It's not that often. They just happened to be in

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Speaker 2: Do you have other their extra jobs?

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Speaker 4: I do. I don't work any churches. I just do

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Speaker 2: And that's for Liberty County or for other counties, or

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Speaker 4: It's in Chambers County. It's just just a little side gig.

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Speaker 2: Okay. What do you like most about being a Sheriff's tipty?

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Speaker 4: Well, when I started this, because I've got a pass

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting perspective. Hold with me for just a moment.

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Speaker 2: Austin Wistman, Pretty County Sheriff's deputys. I guess John Michael.

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Speaker 5: Many more things.

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Speaker 6: Values a million dollars record sales.

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Speaker 2: Now, Austin Wistman is our guest Deputy Whistman, Uh, tell

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Speaker 4: I was, I was driving home from my extra job

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Speaker 4: That's I really appreciate it. And he explained to me,

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Speaker 4: that's awesome, you know, but I mean, that was it.

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Speaker 2: So when the Liberty County Sheriff's Department posted the story

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Speaker 4: Well, I got employee of the months the sheriff during

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Speaker 6: Well, the mayor up there, you remember that man I

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Speaker 2: Uh that took care of it. Well, that's I love

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Speaker 2: He was a good writer, I have to That's why

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Speaker 2: had saved a woman's life. I believe it was her

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Speaker 2: retirement party with her girlfriends. She's choking, which is frightening.

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Speaker 2: In this lieutenant saved her life. We came to learn

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Speaker 2: his name is Jamal Martin and he is our guest lieutenant.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing this morning?

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Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you doing.

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Speaker 4: Going great?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Did you have to check with the

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Speaker 2: chief if you could come on with me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, come on, come on, and new interviews and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: I know I was with him at an event a

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago, and I said, look, when I need

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Speaker 2: my cops on, I need my cops on fast, I

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Speaker 2: need you to issu you a blanket statement that if

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Speaker 2: they asked, they can come on my show. If ray

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Speaker 2: Hunt clears it, they can come on the show. Where

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Speaker 2: were you and what happened? I think it's a great story.

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Speaker 2: I'm so impressed with you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed it was. The incident occurred last Thursday. We

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Speaker 1: were at the restaurant Mexican Sugar.

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Speaker 2: Oh where is that? I've heard about this, but I

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Speaker 2: haven't been there yet.

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Speaker 1: It's located right off of West Dallas.

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Speaker 4: It's a fairly new restaurant.

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Speaker 2: So West Dallas.

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Speaker 4: And what I know?

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Speaker 2: You know because you're a cop and y'all always know

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Speaker 2: the streets in the.

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Speaker 1: Block fifty won Let me look it up real quick.

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Speaker 2: Where are you looking it up?

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Speaker 1: It's off the thirty five hundred block of West Dallas.

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Speaker 2: But what's the cross street like Taffed or Dunlevy.

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay? And so are you with some other officers

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Speaker 2: when this happens.

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Speaker 1: I was actually meeting with some fellow officers.

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Speaker 4: That had dinner. But as I was walking into the restaurant,

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Speaker 4: I was by myself.

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Speaker 2: Were you in uniform?

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Speaker 1: They had already been Yes, I was in full uniform.

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Speaker 1: They had already been seated and was waiting for me.

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Speaker 1: I was actually running late. I had a late arrival.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a term for that.

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Speaker 4: And what is that term?

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Speaker 2: Well, you already know what it is. I can't say it,

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Speaker 2: you can. It's seep time. Okay. So what time were

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Speaker 2: you was running late? What time were you supposed there about?

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Speaker 1: We were scheduled to be there at five o'clock?

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Speaker 2: What time were you I got about.

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Speaker 1: Five thirty years. Oh, I was running significantly late.

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Speaker 2: Yes, obviously, okay. Uh, Now you work evening.

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Speaker 1: So not only was I running correct?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 1: So I was also running late from the office and

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Speaker 1: then got caught, of course.

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Speaker 4: In rush hour traffic trying to make my way over there.

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Speaker 4: So that's probably I played.

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Speaker 1: A big role in me running late.

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Speaker 2: Now where do you work? Are you downtown?

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Speaker 4: Yes? I worked downtown, a downtown division.

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Speaker 2: All right, So you're walking in and what happens.

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Speaker 1: As I'm being shown on the table where my fellow

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Speaker 1: officer is sitting at As I'm crossing the table where

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Speaker 1: Mss Torres is sitting at and her rest of her

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Speaker 1: retirement party. I heard a very loud commotion and at

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Speaker 1: the moment, I couldn't really make out what was going on,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of slowed down and began scanning the room,

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Speaker 1: and that's where I noticed her table where her table

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Speaker 1: was located, Several people were scrambling, chairs were being knocked over,

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Speaker 1: and at that point I still coulnot decide for what

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Speaker 1: was going on, but I could tell that there was

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Speaker 1: some type of situation that probably was going to call

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Speaker 1: for me to take some type of action. And then

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Speaker 1: shortly after that's where I noticed Miss Torres. She had

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Speaker 1: this this face, she had this facial expression day I

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Speaker 1: could tell she was just crying out for help, but

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Speaker 1: no noise was coming out. And then I also began

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Speaker 1: seeing her daughter, who I later came to find out

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Speaker 1: with her daughter performing the him lick on her trying

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Speaker 1: to perform the him lich, and I just managed to

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Speaker 1: make my way through the crowd. It was a lot

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Speaker 1: of people over there, a lot of people panicking, and

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Speaker 1: I just managed to make my way over to her.

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Speaker 1: I moved her daughter out the way, and I approached

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Speaker 1: my tourists from the rear and began performing the himlick

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Speaker 1: on her and managed to dis lodge the large piece

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Speaker 1: of meat that she had accidentally swallowed.

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Speaker 2: Could you tell what kind of meat it was?

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Speaker 1: At the moment, I thought it was a chicken breast,

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Speaker 1: but I came to find out that it was a

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Speaker 1: slice of state okay.

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Speaker 2: And did it come all the way out on the

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Speaker 2: table or just dribble down?

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Speaker 1: No, it flew flat on the floor, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: notice it originally. She turned around a at me before

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Speaker 1: I performed. She's like again, She's like, it's on the ground,

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Speaker 1: It's on the ground. I'm good, Now, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: You can stop. How many pups are that? How many

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Speaker 2: puffs did it require to get it out?

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Speaker 1: So for me, all are attended it twice, But I

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Speaker 1: came to learn later on that there were three other individuals,

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend, another individual that was standing by at the

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Speaker 1: table that was identified I guess later as as a lifeguard,

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Speaker 1: and then her daughter who is a nurse. So those

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Speaker 1: three individuals all attempted prior to me making my attempt,

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Speaker 1: So it's three other individuals performing. So four people actually

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Speaker 1: performed the Hindlich on her before this food was just

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Speaker 1: lived and she also informed the situation was going on

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Speaker 1: probably about two minutes, oh to my arrival.

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Speaker 2: Oh what were they doing wrong? Down too low? What

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Speaker 2: do you suspect they were doing wrong?

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Speaker 1: Obviously you can't know, right, I don't know for certainty,

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Speaker 1: but I think that a lot of it was because

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Speaker 1: it was an emotional situation, emotional sitting. Because both individuals,

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Speaker 1: the lifeguard and her daughter, are both trained and have

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Speaker 1: the skills to do this. I think the fact that

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Speaker 1: this is you know, their mother, and that this is

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Speaker 1: someone that care about love that I think they just

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Speaker 1: kind of were in a panic mode, which probably allowed

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Speaker 1: them to not fully think about what they were doing,

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Speaker 1: and it just kind of was more of an emotional

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Speaker 1: response than them actually slowing down and taking the proper

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Speaker 1: steps to perform the himlink.

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Speaker 2: Had you ever performed the Heimlich before live?

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Speaker 1: No? Never, never in a real life situation. So this

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Speaker 1: was the first time that I was able to use

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Speaker 1: something a.

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Speaker 4: Skill, a skill.

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Speaker 1: Set that I've learned over the course of my career

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Speaker 1: and actually applied in a real life scenario.

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Speaker 2: So when you go over to your table, your buds

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Speaker 2: who you're thirty minutes late. For what do they say?

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Speaker 1: They look at me and they say, hey, what happened

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Speaker 1: over there? And I just casually tell them and then

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Speaker 1: they're all like, wow, you saved a woman's life and

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. And they were very pleased to hear what happened.

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Speaker 1: And then the response that we got. There were so

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Speaker 1: many people that were either involved them.

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Speaker 4: As towards this party or just in.

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Speaker 1: General at the restaurant that observed what happened. They came

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Speaker 1: over to show gratitude and appreciation for what I had done.

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Speaker 2: Did she give you a big hug?

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Speaker 1: Yes, she did. She did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if she's really tiny or you're really big,

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Speaker 2: but the picture, I mean, you just like dwarf her

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Speaker 2: a lot bigger than her.

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Speaker 4: In the combination of both.

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Speaker 2: What a great story that is. Uh well, First of all,

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Speaker 2: thank you for saving a citizen's life. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being willing to engage. Thank goodness you were late.

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Speaker 1: I guess huh right, it was a perfect time.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you for sure. I appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 2: Let us love on you be safe out there. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for serving and protecting. It's a great story. Jamal Martin,

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Speaker 2: you should be very proud of yourself, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's that is honoring the badge that makes every officer

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Speaker 2: look good. Think about it is you don't realize how

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Speaker 2: many times in the course of a day an officer

598
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Speaker 2: does a kindness and nobody knows, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: They're out there doing something, helping somebody. It doesn't make

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Speaker 2: a report, nobody. You know, something bad goes down, okay,

601
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Speaker 2: but how many times somebody does a nice thing. So

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Speaker 2: every one of you HPD officers over voting on your

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Speaker 2: contract today, y'all call Lieutenant Jamal Martin and ras him

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Speaker 2: a little for being late, and thank god he was