1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Thank advantage on the day. All right, will you get 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Optunity game they can play? Oh, don't do one touchdown? 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Kansas City the Chiefs, all right in the thick of 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: a baby and hello once again, everybody. Welcome to this 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: edition of Defending the Kingdom. Mitchelters with you, Voice of 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, along with Chiefs reporter Matt McMullen. And he's 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: back barbershop Shop the barbershop, Sean Barber. Ten year in 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: National Football League, veteran, great ambassador, community leadershop. It's good 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: to see my friend, and it's so great to be 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: back back in the seat, right back talking about the Chiefs. 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Right ready for the revenge to what this thought. Man, 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be back here on Defending the Kingdom 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: and the Defending the Kingdom. Brought to you, of course 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: by three sixty Vodka, the hometown Kansas City Vodka, the 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: official vodka the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chiefs Kingdom. 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: This episode is going to be entitled the Best of 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Times and the Worst of Times. We try to be 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: culture bringing in Charles Dickens here. But before we do that, 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: one of the things we've kind of had some fun 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: with is where people are listening or watching Defending the Kingdom, 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: and I got one this week that's from Lithuania. Wow. 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Gary Shelby from Lithuania says it's the tip of the 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: spear of the Chief's Kingdom. I guess so unless you're 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: in you know, north of Lithuania someplace. But it's shop. 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: It's crazy where people man has some guy listens to 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: it and watches on the toilet, right, so you know, 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: whatever works, man, it's but Defending the Kingdom, you know, 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: we've been on it for a couple of years. It's 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: like we get him from all over the place, all 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: over the place, and it's it's amazing. He mentioned the 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: tip of the spear. I haven't heard of that concept 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: in last time I heard it when I was playing 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: for Philadelphia, our special teams talked about the tip of 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: the spear being the first Union to touch the field, 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: to be able to pierce the armor of our opponent 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: that first kickoff. We wanted to go out there and 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: there's a tip of the spear. We wanted to be 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the first thing that they felt and it was like 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: a calling card to a calling card to war for 40 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: special teams. As we prepared to run out there, for 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: that first kickoff or kickoff return. Well, we've got the 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster now to start the twenty twenty 43 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: one season, and that's what we're dealing with on this episode. 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Kind of a bye week here the way that the 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: NFL has structured the schedule, but we've got the fifty three. 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: There could be so a few tweaks here, but what 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: we see is what we've got, and we're going to 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: title list the best of times and the worst of times. 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about why it's the best of times. And 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, two guys, what excites you 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: most about the fifty three man roster medal? Start with you, 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: all right? So two things. First of all, creativity, the 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: options that coachread has to be creative offensively. And think 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: about what we saw against the Minnesota Vikings. We saw 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: a four tight ends set. How often do we see 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: that in the NFL? We've talked a lot about two 57 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: tight end sets, three tight endsets. How having Noah Gray 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: and Blake Belt allow you to do that? But now, 59 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Jody Fortson in the fold, on the initial fifty three 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: man roster, we saw a four tight end set. Let's 61 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: do a touchdown against the Minnesota Vikings eleven times last year, 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: teams ran four tight end sets only eleven times all year, 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: or long only two passing plays. Coach Reed has four 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: tight ends now that he can use, and he immediately 65 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: gets a touchdown the first time he runs it. So 66 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: creativity is one thing I'm excited about with this fifty three. 67 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: And also just depth. I mean, particularly in the trenches. 68 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: Think about the offensive line rebuild was all about depth. 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: We know the starting five, but think about the backups 70 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: on this group, Guys like Mike Rummers, Austin blythe Laurentto 71 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: with a tardif I know he has the hand injury, 72 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: but monitoring him, but still he's on this team. Andrew 73 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Wiley and Nick Ali Gretty. That's two hundred and thirty 74 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: eight career starts, not just games start, So a ton 75 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: of depth behind that starting five as to be very excited. 76 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Didn't even include Kyle Long there, who's on the pup list. 77 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: But creativity and depth have me very excited about this 78 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: fifty three. Shop What excites you about this fifty three 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: now that it kind of has good sorted out. I'm 80 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: also excited about the four titles, he said. When I 81 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: think about the term fourteen personnel. How many times do 82 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: you even think about defending fourteen personnel having four tight ends, 83 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: having two of them spread out as wid receivers when 84 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: you got Jodie Forreson and know a gray being able 85 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: to get vertical, and then you think about Kelsey underneath, 86 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: and then you want to compact that formation back to 87 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: a run. I don't know what defense I put out there, 88 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Base gold Line, Nickel. I'm at a loss. Whatever I 89 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: put out there, you can almost call three different plays, 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: and depending on the defensive personnel, you can call a 91 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: player that takes advantage of that defense. So I'm a 92 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: little confused right now. My defensive gears of turning, I 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: really don't know how you defend against the fourteen personnel. 94 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: Like you say, seventeen snaps and even eleven snaps across 95 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, across the NFL. I think that that's gonna 96 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: be something that's gonna be a game changer, and I'm 97 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: excited to see how the creativity of coach Andy Reid 98 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: and be enemy use that fourteen personnel. And as a 99 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: defensive mindset, I'm kind of thrown back. I feel seminars 100 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: coming here. Here's what excites me about it. And it's 101 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the four tight ends as well, but it's countermeasures. This 102 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 1: is countermeasures to what teams have done to try to 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: slow down Patrick Mahomes and this off defense. They set 104 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: the safeties back at twenty five yards, they backpedal to thirty. 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I put four tight ends on the field. 106 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna run at you, and I got four 107 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: tight ends that can run every route on the tree 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: to your point. The others the offensive line we've seen it, 109 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: but that brings in the screen game. We saw it 110 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: in the fifty six yard touchdown against Minnesota. This is 111 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: the best of Andy Reid of twenty thirteen, fourteen and 112 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: fifteen when they had Rodney Hudson. They had a lineman 113 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: that could run those crazy screens. And now all of 114 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got you got eight years of playbook 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: going to a ninth. I don't know how you prepare 116 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: for this team. And I'll throw one in their shop 117 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: and you can tag this is what Spags has done 118 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: with the pressure packages. To me, it's a countermeasure. I 119 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: love the defensive side of this because Spags is bringing 120 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: that creativity that we saw with the Giants. Man what 121 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: are you going to do against the defense when they 122 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: line up and they have We called it a joker package, 123 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: because joker, you have no idea where we're coming from. 124 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: You don't know who we bring in, whether we overload 125 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: the weeks as strong side, bringing a defensive end off 126 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: the left side, backs of the middle, safeties out of 127 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: the secondary, even cornerbacks coming off of blitzes. It opens 128 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: up such a array of different pressures and blitzes. It's 129 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: an amazing thing to see a defense get to a 130 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: point where you can trust and now when it comes 131 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: down to you have to be able to trust it. 132 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: The guys not only gonna come when you tell them 133 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: to come, but then we're gonna be able to cover 134 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: it up. When you can cover and you trusted you can, 135 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, one on one, really match up against what 136 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: the offensive has on the field, then that allows your 137 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: defensive promise to this man, it's all kind of pressures 138 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be able to come. And so I'm glad 139 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: to see Coach Bags has finally got the personnel the 140 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: people who want on the field, anyone want one point 141 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: in time where we're gonna see how creative we can 142 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: be on both sides of the ball now and then 143 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: it won't just be an offensive party. And I'll tack 144 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: that too, because think about what Spacks did in New York. 145 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: He had the four aces defense, right, it's four defensive 146 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: ends basically playing on the defensive line where you have 147 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: all these different guys that you can rotate in there. 148 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: So maybe you don't have a guy that's traditionally a 149 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: defensive end, like I'm thinking, I'm worton a guy like that, 150 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: but he can play defensive end. He can do that. 151 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: And then Chris Jones, a defensive tackle, can play defensive end. 152 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: Mike Danna can do that too. And also you have 153 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: guys like Josh Kando coming off the bench for this team, 154 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Alex okafor Mike Dana, so you have depth at those 155 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: spots and guys that are versatile to do different things. 156 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: So looking forward to the pressure this year, the defense 157 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. I think it's gonna 158 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: be awesome. And the ASA Clubs in that, yeah, is 159 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Chris Jones. That is the ASA Clubs because he is 160 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: bringing a club with him and those pressures. In the preseason, 161 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Rossom again are defending the Kingdom brought to you by 162 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: three sixty vodka. This episode entitled the Best of Times 163 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: the Worst of Times. I'm gonna have a little fun 164 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: before we transition out of why it's also the worst 165 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: of times. What of this fifty three person roster and 166 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw in a fifty fourth because there's gonna 167 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: be a roster move here. What draft round do you 168 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: think is boast represented on this roster? What round were 169 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: most of these players taken in? Just throw it out there. 170 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: Let me throw out fourth round because I was a 171 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Beautiful seven of them. Okay, let me 172 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: I'll go with fourth round. I'm gonna say a third 173 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: round because third round of the magic round for the Chiefs. 174 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: Answer would be none of them. Here's what's crazy crazy 175 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: out of my share on this episode of Defending in 176 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: the Kingdom, fifty three man roster, twenty five percent of 177 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: this team was undrafted. Wow, it gives me chills to 178 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: talk about it. Now, you guys have let's just go 179 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: through here a second. Dude, you came out of Richmond, 180 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: an FCS school, proud school, great academic tradition. You've had 181 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: some football players out of there. However, when you think about, hey, 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: let's look at some power of schools. Here, I ain't 183 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: thinking about no Spiders from Richmond, thirteen guys on. There 184 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: are free undrafted free agents that just that blows me away. Well, 185 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: I can definitely speak to the heart of what it's 186 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: like to enter the NFL as a free agent or 187 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: as an unrecruited, undrafted player. Many of my friends did. 188 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: But that mindset you have coming from a University of Richard, 189 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: coming from a small school, being a product of that, 190 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: you don't feel like anything is given. You feel like 191 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: you need to earn every day you have to be 192 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: a part of that program. And then year in a 193 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: year out, I felt like I was always the fifty 194 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: third guy. From the day I entered the Washington Redskins 195 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: my first year NFL, I felt like I was number 196 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: fifty fifty one, fifty two, fifty three. I felt like 197 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: somebody was trying to take my spot each and every 198 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: day at practice, and I entered with that mindset every 199 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: training camp. It kept me hungry, it kept me humble, 200 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: but it also kept me very hard working, and that 201 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: that allowed the best of me to show up on 202 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: a daily basis at practice. And Matt also, looking at 203 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: this crew, I'm thinking it ain't just guys from Power 204 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: five schools, Like we're looking at three Division two guys 205 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: on this roster, three and two guys that played the 206 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: FCS football in the Missouri Valley Conference, which is the 207 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: SEC of FCS football. But you're gonna argue with me 208 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: on that you are. But the fact that this isn't 209 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: just and these the D one conferences are all over 210 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the board. I mean we got Sunbolt, we got Mountain West, 211 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: we got everything on there. Yeah. Yeah, Well that's what 212 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: you do if you're a great team, right, you find 213 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: the guys no matter where they are. And Trshaun Wharton's 214 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: always the best example of this because you find a 215 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: guy just down the road at Missouri S and T. 216 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: How many NFL players it coming from Missouri S and 217 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: T one him? Yeah, one. And you find to Shaun Wharton. 218 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: And he's not just in this league. He's a good 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: player in this league. He's one of the best, one 220 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: of the best rookie defensive tackles in all of football 221 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: last year. You find him after the draft is over. 222 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: So that's what makes Brett Veach and the staff so 223 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: good is you don't just stop when the draft ends. 224 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: You find guys like Byron Pringle, Ben Nieman, Darius Harris 225 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 1: linebackerround this team and Trshaun Wharton, guys that went to 226 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: maybe smaller schools but can contribute at this level. You 227 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: can see things in their game. Just get your coach's 228 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: hands on him, you know, and turn them into pros. 229 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: And we've seen that time and time a game with 230 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Brett Veach and his staff. Now we're going to transition 231 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: here a bit because there's no game this week. I 232 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: wanted to spend a little time on this element that 233 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: it's the worst of times. Let me get it started 234 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: this way. It was Tuesday, No, it's Monday, so I 235 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: knew it was going to be cut down day. I 236 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: have to come in early in the morning I get 237 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: COVID tested. But I'm walking through the parking lot and 238 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: I see dudes and I know who they are setting 239 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: in their cars. They're waiting for the time they're going 240 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: to come into the building, and I'm no or at 241 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: least think I know what their next ninety minutes are 242 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: going to be like. And I got a knot in 243 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: my stomach. There are guys that aren't on this list 244 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: that I want to deal with here because if we 245 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: don't I think we lose the human element of this 246 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: game now. We like to watch it on hard knocks. 247 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: We like to watch the train wreck. We just don't 248 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: want to be in the train wreck. But I'm gonna 249 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: ask you two guys, because you said you were the guy, 250 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: you felt like you were the fifty three for third 251 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: guy every year, and I'm guessing in those ten plus 252 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: years you were sweating it out a lot of times. 253 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you in a second, but Matt, your 254 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: thoughts when you think about just the gut punch that 255 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: these guys had on Monday Tuesday and how difficult it is, 256 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: and how the empathy of Andy Reid and bread Veach 257 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: comes into play here because it's not lost on those guys. Yeah, well, 258 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: this is hard to believe that I never played pro football. 259 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: I know it's hard to believe. I don't know if 260 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: you guys knew that. But we are around these guys 261 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: every day. And the thing is that we're around these 262 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: guys from the very beginning. We don't just show up 263 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: in training camp. We're with them when they're signed as 264 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: reserve futures contracts in January and February. And for those 265 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: that don't know how that works. Even when the playoffs 266 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: are still going on. If there's free agents out there 267 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: that want to sign a contract for the next season, 268 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: they can sign a reserve futures deal. And a lot 269 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: of the guys that were waived and release released were 270 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: those kind of guys, young players trying to make it 271 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: in this league. They signed their contract back in February, 272 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: they got their chief skier, and they started working out 273 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: here in April, and then in May they were out 274 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: there on the field for rookie Mini caamp or OTAs, 275 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: then mini camp in June, and then of course training camp. 276 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: So they've been a part of this team for a 277 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: very long time, grinding on this playbook, trying to make 278 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: this roster. And the tough thing is a lot of 279 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: these guys they have to know I'm probably not going 280 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: to make this team, but yet they still have to 281 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: give it their all and think how difficult that is 282 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: and how hard that must be. And you have to 283 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: respect these guys for everything they gave to this team. 284 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe some of them will be back on 285 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: the practice squad or later on in the season on 286 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: the roster, but it's a tough mindset to have. And 287 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: the thing about this organization you mentioned Brett each and 288 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: his staff, they get that, and they get the people 289 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: element and the human element of it. And that's important 290 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: to remember that these guys didn't just show up in 291 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: training camp. They've been part of the team for a 292 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: very long time, giving their all to this team and 293 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: their contributions to be appreciated for sure. Yeah, there's a 294 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: lot of reasons I love Andy Reid, but that's a 295 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: big one. He gets what those forty eight hours are like. 296 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: And I've never gotten used to it. It's only my 297 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: twenty eighth year in the NFL, and I never want 298 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: to get used to it, because if you get desensitized 299 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: to that, it's more of a problem than someone might realize. 300 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: But it gets close to home. I got, like Darius 301 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: Shephard right dream playing for the Chiefs. Blue Springs High School, 302 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: Dalton shown, Blue Belly Northwest High School. Darius plays at 303 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: North Dakota State, shown plays at k State. They can 304 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Chiefs uniform. And they both performed well 305 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: in the preseason and a training camp. But your points 306 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: a good one. These guys just didn't show up at 307 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: Saint Joe and go oh, give me a tryout. But 308 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: you have a perspective shop more than the two of 309 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: us on what this feels like, the tens, the gut punch, 310 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: dealing dealing with it, and have you respond well, I mean, 311 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: life is life, and sometimes you know all your goals 312 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: and dreams, you you build it up to this culmination 313 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: of this high point playing for my childhood dream playing 314 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um If you allow being cut from 315 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: one team to really deter you or knock you off 316 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: your track, then you probably really wasn't supposed to be 317 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: an NFL first place. I know that from from seeing 318 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: myself being on and off different NFL teams. It was 319 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: the perseverance sometimes comes with being cut. Sometimes, um, you 320 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: need to be released from a team to realize how 321 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: much do I really want this? Am I really interested 322 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: in being the NFL player? To the fact that I'm 323 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: going to sacrifice the next eleven months of working out 324 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: away from my family the off season. Am I going 325 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: to keep going down this road that sometimes it's gonna 326 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: have a return on my investment of being cut, of 327 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: being released looking for a job week after week after week, 328 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: maybe coming back as a practice squad player making the 329 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: minimum how long am I willing to chase this dream 330 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: of mind of being an NFL player. Not everybody has 331 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: the luxury of being a you know, fourth and above 332 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: round draft pick and given three or four years to 333 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: show you have some worth of a team. Majority of 334 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: the guys are just that, their guys trying to beat 335 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: each other out to have a seat at the table, 336 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: to be a part of a team. And when you're 337 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: part of a team practicing all through training camp, you 338 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: do not think that I'm trying out for that one team. 339 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: All of your film, all of the work you're doing, 340 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: you're out there putting on film, on tape, something to 341 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: bring somebody's eyes open, to give you a shot, because 342 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: you know that one thing happens in the NFL is 343 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: not for long. People get hurt, their injury is gonna happen, 344 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: Spots gonna open up, and so you need somebody, a 345 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: scout that maybe was a part of our organization, or 346 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: a scout that has left out the organization went to 347 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: another team. When I was at the Chiefs, I saw 348 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: that guy work out. I was around him. He's a 349 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: he's a workout monster. He's gonna he knows football. He's 350 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: a he's a quick processor of information. He can come 351 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: here and play special teams right away. Those are the 352 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: attributes you need to be uh kind of tagged to 353 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: your persona so that anybody, any league that has an 354 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: opportunity for you to go showcase your skills and abilities, 355 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: you got to be ready to show case those things 356 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: at a moment's notice. When it's time to shine. It's 357 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: time to shine bright. And the guys on our team, 358 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: they took advantage of an opportunity. But the team they're 359 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: trying to make isn't just it's not a good team. 360 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: They're trying to make a great team. And when you 361 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: have a great team and you have abundance of riches, 362 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to the kind of players and the 363 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: skill we play at, it's hard to make that team. 364 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: But the harder that that the same effort and mentality 365 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: and all that sacrifice you put into making theself the 366 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: best you can be. On game day, somebody acknowledged it, 367 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: and you'll see a lot of guys who got cut 368 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: from our team end up on other rosters. I'll just 369 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: give you this personal and I didn't play either, Matt 370 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: the NFL. You could, though, I believe it spur my 371 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: senior year in a quarterback sneak. That's it. But I 372 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: was among three hundred applicants for two other NFL jobs. 373 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: I got to the final two and told this looks good. 374 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: We think you've got it. Another one final five. I 375 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: still have the media account of the five finalists and 376 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: didn't get either one of those. And I remember that 377 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: feeling of setting in that pickup, like I saw those 378 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: guys setting in that day. But the shop's point, it 379 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: was like it became a defining moment, and I end 380 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: up being the voice of the Chiefs like two years later, 381 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: which is the best job of any of them. So 382 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: it was the worst of times that became the best 383 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: of times. And now we're in a super Bowl ring 384 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: of being here for twenty eight seasons. But I remember 385 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: that feeling you think you're there and then at the 386 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: last second you're not. So I've always just had some 387 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: empathy and a heart for that, and I don't want 388 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: to lose it. But it's interesting to see how guys 389 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: rebound from it. Now. Our final look at the best 390 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: of times and worst of times the Chiefs had their 391 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: fifty three man roster right now is kind of some 392 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: of the abnormalities in this roster. We've already touched on 393 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: the four tight ends, right, that's and and Shop, I'm 394 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: with you. If this works, you're gonna see it about 395 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: twenty NFL teams going, how do we find four titles? 396 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be a disaster too, because 397 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: they're gonna have guys that should not be doing it right. 398 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: A lot of defense coordinated is gonna all send turn 399 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Gray and one season you're gonna be saying that before 400 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: and after pitching they well, you played the Chiefs now, 401 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: you know, and messed up all your concepts and everything. 402 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: Um that that fourteen personnel. I'm telling you, I'm gonna 403 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: get a T shirt that says fourteen personnel Bring the noise. 404 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: But it's unique, right because I love it. How many 405 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: teams can have their fourth tight end in Jody Forts 406 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: and be six six, two thirty can play wide receiver. 407 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: If you're a linebacker and you see Jody Forts and 408 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: running at you, what do you do? Hope and pray? Okay, 409 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: but let's take let's before we get to the abnormalities. 410 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: You brought up Forts in because Shop, this is going 411 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: to be in your wheelhouse. Because I'm fortune has worked. 412 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: He's the guy that's been cut. He sat in the car. Dude, 413 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: you're not you didn't make it. Hang in there. No, 414 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean no, might not mean just right now, 415 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: all that stuff right, we all just talked about that. 416 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: Now he's made it. He was in front of the 417 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: media earlier this week and it was awesome. Yeah, but 418 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this and shop. I'm 419 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna let matt wig in him. But when we get 420 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: your thought, now, the tension changes, because I remember the 421 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: tension I felt. Let's go back to my little episode. 422 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: I finally get it. I got shut down. I made it. 423 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: Beat two hundred ninety eight to lose, right, I beat 424 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: two hundred ninety five to lose. But now I get it. 425 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: And now my stomach starts to turn for another reason, 426 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: because now it's time to play. Jody, you've made it. 427 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: You get about forty eight hours to enjoy it. But 428 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: now what are you gonna do? So Matt here he is, 429 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: he's got a chance, but now he has to play 430 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: and make place. When I think him having that perspective 431 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: of being cut is going to help him, don't you think? 432 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean? His media a couple days ago was awesome, 433 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: and he even said right away, I haven't made it. 434 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: This isn't my dream to make a team. My dream 435 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: is to play in the NFL and have a long career. 436 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: This is a step in the process. I think he 437 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: understands that, and he understands this was just part of 438 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: what he's trying to do to achieve his dream. And 439 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: I think when you have that perspective, it isn't given 440 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: to you. I think it's a lot easier to go 441 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: out there and make plays and play loose and just 442 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: be a great football player. I mean, is that kind 443 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: of point do you think, Sean? Yeah, definitely. Man, it's 444 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: time to put up a shut up. You tell yourself 445 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: what you want. I've been investing my time, sacrificing my 446 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: treasure and my talent because I believe that I'm good 447 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: enough to be in this league. And no matter how 448 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: many times he looked at himself in a mirror and 449 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: told himself, I'm good enough, I'm good enough, I'm good enough, 450 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't until he gets that last sealer approval that 451 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: last When it's time to play the Cleveland Browns, not 452 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: only is he part of the team, but now he 453 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: wants to be active. He wants to be an active 454 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: member when it comes to kicking the Browns, but on 455 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: game one of the season, he wants to be a 456 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: part of that. Not just to practice, not the preparation, 457 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: but he wants to make an impact in his league 458 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: as a player. Everybody has the same desire. Right, you 459 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: want to be accepted. You want to be impactful, But 460 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: you want to make a difference. Right. You don't want 461 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: to walk away and just being a call or just 462 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: a sidebar. Now you want to you want to score. 463 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: You want to you want to let your teammates know 464 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: you've done everything to prepare yourself at this moment and 465 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: when it's time for that could pay to be called. 466 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: You want pat to have the trust in you that 467 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: you're prepared to make that catch, make that play so 468 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: you can spike that ball in the end zone and 469 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: have everybody remember your name when you got he made 470 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: the team. Now you're the Richmond dude made the team. 471 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: La Barbara made the team. Wow? When did the kick in? Like, Okay, now, 472 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: I gotta do it About the fourth week of the season. Really, 473 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: it took that long man up until the fourth week 474 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: in the season. I was still puking on the I 475 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: mean going out for the week one like I was 476 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: playing with. I had Daryl Green, I asked some some 477 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: all pro guys. I was still like in all of that, 478 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: I was even on the field with him. Yeah. Marcus 479 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Patton Marfka's Patton was the middle linebacker when I was 480 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: on the field as the weak linebacker with the red Skins. 481 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Many of years playing here, I know MP. Many of 482 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: the viewers remember MP. Good, great dude. But being a 483 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: guy out of Richmond and just dreaming about playing football. 484 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: It was about the fourth game of the season when 485 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: I realized it's just football, like it really is. Like 486 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: they talk about the speed of the game and everything's getting. 487 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: People run faster, they hit harder. I'm the hammer. I'm 488 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: not the nail. I'm not taking it from anybody. I'm 489 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: delivering the blow. I'm the aggress out here, right. I 490 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: get to set the tempo. I'm making you come. You 491 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: gotta come pack your lunch and come to my party. 492 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm not just a participant in this. No, no, this 493 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: is my show. This the Sean Barber Show. And at 494 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: the fourth game is when I took control of my 495 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: destiny and I wasn't just trying to be in the 496 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: league anymore. No, this is my league. I own it. 497 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: It's my destiny. You know, I'm the creator. And so 498 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: that's when it all became different. And then from Game 499 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: four until I guess ten seasons later, that's when I 500 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: Randy on a kickoff kind of hurt my neck and 501 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: was like, yoh, this ain't it for me no more. 502 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: That's though, That's a cool point though, because I think 503 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: about what Tyron Matthew said before the very first preseason game. 504 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: I asked him, what's your advice to the young guys 505 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: trying to make this team going out there on a 506 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: professional field for the first time, and he said, go 507 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: out there and play the game you've been playing since 508 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: you were five, and just let them let the world 509 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: know who you are. That's all he wanted them to do. 510 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: And you look at this roster and the guys that 511 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: made the very end of this roster, the bubble guys 512 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: that made it. That's what they did. They went out 513 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: there in the preseason, guys like Jody and we're like, 514 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not worried about all the noise. 515 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: I know what I can do. I'm gonna go out 516 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: there and play football. It's but I've been doing my 517 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: whole life right. It shouldn't be that hard. I can 518 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: do this once I put everything else, all the distractions aside. 519 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: And for the guys that made this team, it's just 520 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: a really awesome thing to see how they took that 521 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: and then achieves their achieve their dream because they put 522 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: all that thing, all that stuff aside and realized I 523 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: can be a football player in this league. Yeah, we've 524 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: seen it with Fountain two. But again, to just reiterate, 525 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of this roster is undrafted. Undrafted, It's 526 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: just it's crazy. Final part of this the best of 527 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: times the worst of times episode on the Defending the 528 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: Kingdom would be going back now to the abnormality of 529 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: this roster. What are we seeing in the NFL because 530 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: we've got corners that are safeties that are corners. We 531 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: get so to me and Matt, we've talked about this, 532 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: and shop you and I have two I think the 533 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: worst thing to do for any of us is to 534 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: pigeonholesome guy and to say he's this or that. You 535 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: look at this roster. I got a whole bunch of 536 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: this and that's yeah, it doesn't exist anymore. If you're 537 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: just one position, that's just not the case anymore. You 538 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: have to be versatile in this league, and we're seeing 539 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: that across this team on both sides of the ball. 540 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: So think about the offensive line rebuild. Really no one 541 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: on this roster is just a guard or just a tackle. 542 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: Almost everyone can play guard and center, or both tackle spots, 543 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: or tackle and guard. Think about Andrew Wiley, he can 544 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: play guard and tackle for you. Nick Alagredy center and guard. 545 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: The list goes on. These guys can all play different spots. 546 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: That's very important to keep in mind. It's how the 547 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: defensive secondary is set up. Guys like Lagarius Sneed can 548 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: play both slot and outside corner. But then you can 549 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: have Tyron Matthew. He can play anywhere you want. He 550 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: could be the best corner in the league if he 551 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: wanted to, but he's a safety. So you have defensive 552 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: backs that can play all over the place. And then 553 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: also I mentioned it earlier, but we're seeing it along 554 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: the defensive line too, because you have guys like Mike 555 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: Dana Tore, Shaun Wharton, and Chris Jones that can each 556 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: play both inside and outside. So you have guys that 557 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: can do different things for you. So if you're looking 558 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: at the depth at certain spots, I would just stress 559 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: not looking at necessarily the letter next to their name, 560 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: because these guys can all do different different things. And 561 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: part of the creativity of Spags and Shop and I've 562 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: talked about this, and we have two Nichols usually three corners, 563 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: two safeties. Not with spags. Now that could be three 564 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: safeties in two corners. He could play a dime with 565 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: four safeties. What do we see in Sean? Is this 566 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: just the Chiefs or is this what football is turning into? Well? 567 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: I think growing up, everybody tells you that availability is 568 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: the best ability. I think with the Chiefs and showing 569 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: you his versatility, it might be the best ability at 570 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: the end of the day. And that's the way of 571 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: this learning how to continue to evolve what you do, 572 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: not only just keep it with times, but you want 573 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: to be a trendset. We want we want other teams 574 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: looking at us and like who is coming from where? 575 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: Who's got deep half? Is this a man coverage? Is 576 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: this half man half zone? What kind of concepts are 577 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: going on? By the time the quarterback figures it out, 578 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: he got sag Nation, the president CEO of sag Nation 579 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: breathing down his throat, right, he got Mike Danna a 580 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: palm and in his face giving him the dirty the 581 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: dirty bird or something like that. You know what I mean. 582 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean it creates doubt. Everything on defense is to 583 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: make something look like something while we're really doing something else. 584 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: Calls a split second of doubt, so that you and 585 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: your receivers and running backs throw the protection off that 586 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: that that that that the hair second, that extra second 587 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: it takes you to deliver the ball is usually gonna 588 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: result in a turnover, a sack, pressure fumble, something like that. 589 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: And that's what we do at a at a very 590 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: high level. But it takes very smart players, very versatile players, 591 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: because a D and R defense stands for dime, but 592 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: three different players can play it. A corner is a corner, 593 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: but a safety or nickel can be there depending on 594 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: how the offensive set comes out. On defense, when you 595 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: can know each other's jobs and we don't need to 596 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: be rock rolling, safety switching running over, you just line 597 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: up as a defense. You let the offense make your set, reset, 598 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: change positions, and when you're ready to go play football. 599 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: Now we're ready to go because we all know what 600 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: we gotta do. We're waiting for you this hike the 601 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: ball so we can come hit you in the face. 602 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: And that's what we do on defense. But everybody has 603 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: to be on the same page. You have to be 604 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: great communicators and you have to trust one another. And 605 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: I think as this defense gets a little bit longer 606 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: in the tooth, I love Hitchens and Willie Gay. We 607 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: talk about him and bolting of the linebackers. Obviously, I 608 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: gotta give a shout out to those linebackers anytime I can, 609 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: because that's the heart of the defense. But we know 610 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: Honey Badger and those safeties of the brain and they 611 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: make it go. So we got the heart of the brain. 612 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what part of the body. Chris Jones 613 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: and those guys clubs, clubs or Trump. We're playing clubs 614 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: and then playing at ace, so he is the ace. 615 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, Matt, Yeah, it's gonna be a 616 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of fun. I want to add one thing to 617 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: that point too, because think about special teams. How important 618 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: with special teams in this preseason. If you want to 619 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: be versatile, that also means playing on special teams. Think 620 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: about Jerick McKinnon. He comes to mind. He made this team, 621 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: yes as a running back, but also because of what 622 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 1: he did on special teams in the preseason. He was 623 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: awesome on special teams. Makes his team as a running back. 624 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: And I'll get back to Jody Fortson one more time. 625 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: This is like the Jody Fortson podcast. At this point. 626 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: He had twenty nine special teams snaps in the preseason. 627 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: That was the most of any player. So and he 628 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: played really well on special teams. So when you're thinking 629 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: about players that made this team, it wasn't just offense, 630 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: wasn't just defense and what they can do in terms 631 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: of their versatility there. It was also special teams and 632 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: that would be very important, particularly for the guys in 633 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: the back end of this roster as the season goes on. 634 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: Dave Tobs ninth season here, I think this is his 635 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: best core of special teams guys he's ever had, Iron Pringle, 636 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: Ben Nieman, Dorian O'Daniel. Now Fortson joins that list are 637 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: wat some money, So there are dudes there. You want 638 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: to find the Matthew Slaters of the world, right and 639 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: if you got some of those guys, I can still 640 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: be on scrimmage downs that great point, great point. All right, now, 641 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: if you haven't learned from the wisdom of Smoke Barber, 642 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: that's the father of Sean and what a great life 643 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: he had. And so but know this, as we close 644 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: out this edition of Defending the Kingdom, you can either 645 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: be the stick or you can be the Panada. You 646 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: can be the hammer stick, right, don't want to be 647 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: I want to start every Monday like that. You know, 648 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: you gotta be the stick of the nailer. Did you 649 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: ever hammer the nail? Did you guys ever stay up 650 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: and study for the test? I could never do it. 651 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: I get like two o'clock and I'm like, I can't 652 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: do it anymore. But these coordinators that play us, they're 653 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna be up all night for tourist for nights. And 654 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm not talking just the defensive coordinators. I'm talking about 655 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator going, how do I set my protections 656 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: against these guests? Yeah, this is gonna be fun. Sean Barber, 657 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: the shop is always open. Matt McMullen, the Human Flash Drive. 658 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: You can follow them on Twitter And thanks to the 659 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: folks add three sixty Vodka for being the sponsor of 660 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom. The best of times, the worst of times, 661 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: but now we hit it full throttle. Next week we 662 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: get ready for the Cleveland Browns. Thanks for joining us 663 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: in this edition of Defending the Kingdom. Touchdown down and 664 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: the celebration begins in their own head